hoi4-general

[daring totem]

Do I still have a chance to win ? Im at war with the allies I think soon the soviets will justify because of bassarabia wich is in my possession

[lethal ether]

and this ^

[lethal ether]

yes

[woeful berry]

easily

[daring totem]

I sent my only good division to fight in egypt🫠

Should i start to build more factories?

[woeful berry]

u should always be building something

also trade for resources that you lack

[daring totem]

Im curentlly building infrastructure everywhere

[woeful berry]

build it on cities that have resources

then build your factories ontop of your highest infrastructure states

[viscid sleet]

not bad for mid 1940

[woeful berry]

do people actually divide armies onto theaters??

[lilac notch]

guys i'm asking again does ANYONE remember that cheat unlocking ALL advisors and laws?

https://tenor.com/view/that-boy-said-that-boy-said-gif-576061008314408050

[woeful berry]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-laughing-gif-8191078

[fallen garnet]

Why cant I move my Navy towards the english channel (as Italy)

[heavy vigil]

allowideas or something

[fair horizon]

Gibraltr and the suez are owned by the british probably

[fallen garnet]

thats what I thought but I still cant after getting Gibraltar

[fair horizon]

should be able to

Did you set the fleet to move bases?

[limpid field]

stupid little entente cant win against me

is that winnable

they have germany on their side

[heavy vigil]

hiii big V

[limpid field]

now the soviet union

great

[limpid field]

i even managed to expand a little bit

no blood spilled

[fair horizon]

hi casey

i wonder if this means battlecarriers might become a special project

[bronze mango]

Bubbles are green, id say probably

[heavy vigil]

gonna play some vic3 but idk anything fun

the last time i played i ragequit

[fair horizon]

ive never played it

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[fair horizon]

my infantry has more soft attack than britian, im actually the best

[cedar lance]

hello Lord

[cedar lance]

what

[fair horizon]

hehe

[toxic cypress]

hellen will rule north africa once more

[fair horizon]

i just took all of north africa with 12 divs

[fair horizon]

australia rules the waves*

[toxic cypress]

similar flags

[fair horizon]

very

[violet veldt]

Why does north africa matter lowkey

[fair horizon]

it doesnt i just took it with garbage divs by myself

[cedar lance]

alr

[violet veldt]

Isnt it for naval invasion

[toxic cypress]

it doest but

australia isnt exactly super strong

[fair horizon]

the great australian army in question:

[cedar lance]

i mostly play Estonia since im Estonian IRL

[fair horizon]

based

[toxic cypress]

anyway i wanna go make a usa run now

[fair horizon]

i dont like playing my own country because its the best

[toxic cypress]

estonia in hoi4 is quite strong

not super strog

strong

but its max cores is quite ok

[cedar lance]

alr

ik

[toxic cypress]

one of the strongest minor nations

[fair horizon]

more states than australia gets core

[cedar lance]

yes

i usually take out baltics first

[fair horizon]

however i can apparently stop japan from attacking anyone as fascist australia lmao

[toxic cypress]

once the british empire dlc drops

that gon change

prolly

[toxic cypress]

alr

[cedar lance]

i always take out baltics first and then finland and sweden

[toxic cypress]

i dont play estonia

[cedar lance]

alr

i do go the fascist path

[fair horizon]

its an australia dlc

[cedar lance]

as estonia

[fair horizon]

and i want it now

[toxic cypress]

gotta play greece

[fair horizon]

110 planes when i only have 80...

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/macedonia-alexander-the-great-greece-hellenic-world-conqueror-gif-26118169

[fair horizon]

hype edits go hard

[cedar lance]

i do always build ALL ships

[iron iron]

How is getting no country for old men even possible

[toxic cypress]

as estonia?

[iron iron]

0 manpower with scraping the barrel

[toxic cypress]

thats not good decision making

[cedar lance]

yes and also germany

[toxic cypress]

make planes n tanks

[fair horizon]

why does he sound like emet from ffxiv

[toxic cypress]

play a minor

quit playing majors

[fair horizon]

based naval estonia game

[toxic cypress]

if u play hungary facist

go to war with anyoe with germany

[cedar lance]

yes

[toxic cypress]

u can get the achievment

ez

[cedar lance]

i do also produce ALL other techs and equipments

[toxic cypress]

cause ur manpower base only 6mil

[cedar lance]

like tanks etc

[fair horizon]

i cant get my carriers to engage these subs :/

[cedar lance]

alr

[fair horizon]

wait nvm japan declared on me

[toxic cypress]

@cedar lance can u show me

ur estonian navy

i need to see ts

[cedar lance]

i cant im busy

sorry

[toxic cypress]

how and what are you even building as estonia

[fair horizon]

crap

[cedar lance]

im busy sorry

[toxic cypress]

navy is expensive ash to make for minor nations

even if u own all of baltics finland and sweden

[fair horizon]

BRITIAN HELP

[toxic cypress]

the economic weight of dockyards would make u unable to produce real amounts of useful equipment

[cedar lance]

yes ik

[toxic cypress]

japan will lose

probably

no malaya

no tin

no rubber

it will run outa planes

then ships

as the uk beats m

[fair horizon]

i dont have the ships and britian is busy fighting in the med

they're not gonna defend my puppets

[cedar lance]

@toxic cypress im at moms

sorry

ill show my Estonian navy etc when i come back tomorrow

but it is quite big

the army navy and airforce

of Estonia

[toxic cypress]

its alright mate

i aint in that much of a rush

[cedar lance]

alr thx

[toxic cypress]

make planes then

[cedar lance]

hey jok

[fair horizon]

with no plane mio? i prefer keeping my manpower intact

[toxic cypress]

planes r suprisingly op in naval warfare

naval bombing is quite op

[cedar lance]

i do also sometimes buy stuff and get production licenses

[toxic cypress]

oh yeah ur australia

[violet veldt]

Surprisingly?

[toxic cypress]

make sense

[violet veldt]

Its like

[cedar lance]

as Estonia yes

[toxic cypress]

when i say that i mean planes r literally so good u can just throw buncha subs to detect other ships n have a horde of planes destroy anything they find

[violet veldt]

I mean

Theyre like that irl iirc

[toxic cypress]

not really

[fair horizon]

eh

[violet veldt]

What did you expect

[toxic cypress]

real life anti air

[cedar lance]

how do i get lend lease from others like Germany

[fair horizon]

early war i guess

[toxic cypress]

is really good

[violet veldt]

Its third dimensional combat

[toxic cypress]

its just that ai doesnt make new ships

if they fix the ai

[fair horizon]

it wasnt that great until later in the war tbh

[violet veldt]

Real?

[toxic cypress]

so they make decent ship templates

its over for us

[cedar lance]

i do build enough mils civs and dockyards

[toxic cypress]

i mean modern ones r insane but even in ww2

[cedar lance]

to have a tech and equipment advantages

[toxic cypress]

they would have buncha anti air ships

but ai in hoi4

doesnt make em

[violet veldt]

Well now you know why they have aa ships

[toxic cypress]

its why air isnt that good for naval v players who make good navies

[fair horizon]

the problem with aa is that until the invention of the proximity fuse most aa didnt hit anything

[toxic cypress]

you can get to modern tech in hoi4 doe

[cedar lance]

can someone answer this

[toxic cypress]

just takes very long

[fair horizon]

sure

[toxic cypress]

i like to make a small empire

and just play tall

till i get modern tech

[fair horizon]

but if you look at early war, aa wasnt good enough for most of the stuff that was being used against the british in the med

[toxic cypress]

and do me v the world

so like west europe v ussr and the world

[cedar lance]

damn jok

[cedar lance]

hello?

@toxic cypress @fair horizon

[reef dirge]

Is this good for Austria?

[cedar lance]

ask that in #ask-for-help-here

[toxic cypress]

idk

i dont use landlease

[cedar lance]

damn

alr

is it even worth it to get Lend lease

[fair horizon]

you dare attack my puppet?

[toxic cypress]

🤷‍♂️

[fair horizon]

if you have no guns and you're at risk of losing? id say yeah

[cedar lance]

alr

[fair horizon]

the ai only offers it when you have deficets

[cedar lance]

what does it cost for me to get lend lease

[cedar lance]

oh alr

is there a cost to get lend lease

[fair horizon]

war score but you're not going to get more war score if you're capitulated

[cedar lance]

alr

[iron iron]

Austria Hungary path kinda op for Hungary

I forgot abt Germany

Ok I just capped in abt 1min

[cedar lance]

i do build a lot of carriers modern and escort carriers

i also buy stuff and get licenses

[pliant haven]

Does someone want to play MP?

I don’t care which one

[fair horizon]

malaysia has better radar tech than me

how

[fair horizon]

peak

[cedar lance]

why only 2 CVs?

[fair horizon]

refitting my other heavy cruiser

you dont need capitals to screen carriers

its just reccomended because of battleships/hcs can shoot them if you dont

also torpedo screen penetration kinda stuff

i have no clue how japan has destroyers in the red sea

oh wait vichy france

[strong umbra]

is forming austria hungary stronger as Austria or Hungary?

[fair horizon]

i think austria gets a single core hungary doesnt

[strong umbra]

wdym a single core

does forming austria hungary not grant cores?

[fair horizon]

idk like zara or soemthing

like hungary doesnt core one state that austria does

[strong umbra]

oh

qell in that case

hungary it is

I feel like hubgary is stronger

[fair horizon]

now ill say ive never really gotten past germany curb stomping me but i heard someone complaining about it the other day

[marsh saffron]

@ember flint computer dead?

[fair horizon]

united states didnt join ww2

[trim reef]

any1 wanna play

[heavy vigil]

austria is busted but is a bit harder

like stronger if played decently

[strong umbra]

does it get more industry buffs or smth?

[limpid field]

is this winnable

[strong umbra]

yes

its hoi4

btw that just means unfriendly relations

show the war tab

[limpid field]

all romanian and czechoslovak casualties are by me

[strong umbra]

just a question should I play his or non his ai

[fair horizon]

casey what do you think about my task force?

[iron iron]

Hardest part abt invading uk is DEFINITELY naval dominance

[heavy vigil]

up to what you find fun

[strong umbra]

no like what is better

[heavy vigil]

what task force

[heavy vigil]

hist is more balanced

[fair horizon]

right there, its convoy raiding :)

[strong umbra]

ok

[fair horizon]

i have 3 of them doing that

[heavy vigil]

what happened to your other ships

[fair horizon]

havent lost any

just refit the heavy cruisers into carriers

[heavy vigil]

strike force begging to be destroyed

[fair horizon]

project

no im smart and they cant reach me

well

i guess they could in the red sea but projects are happening

[heavy vigil]

im like you but better

[fair horizon]

is that like eu4?

hehe

[heavy vigil]

vic

[strong umbra]

i am confusion

which path is the correct path

for austria hungary

[fair horizon]

the left one comrade

[strong umbra]

left one

then right side?

is it that one?

[fair horizon]

is one with red star

[strong umbra]

whch one is it?

[strong umbra]

imn not falling for that

[limpid field]

half a year later

nothing changed

except the casualties

this is just ww1 all over again

[fair horizon]

no communism? smh

[cedar lance]

where do i find my navy size in hoi4

[fair horizon]

wym?

[limpid field]

1.7 million casualties them 154k me

[fair horizon]

this thingy?

[cedar lance]

yes

intel ledger

[fair horizon]

right click yourself

[cedar lance]

alr

gotcha

ill show my navy tomorrow As Estonia

[fair horizon]

japan isnt at war with britian...

just me as australia and my puppets

[cedar lance]

alr

since jokage wanted me to show my estonian navy size

i do know i have a LOT loads of CVs

[azure dagger]

that 1

[strong umbra]

ooooohh

I did the other one

the middle one

[azure dagger]

well

restart

[azure dagger]

the path with the red star is very good tho

cause comrades

[fair horizon]

so im playing historical and brazil joined the allies before america did...

[rigid coral]

Is it better to buy the game on steam or on the paradox website?

[sudden thistle]

Stream

Steam*

[fair horizon]

are these even worth it? ive never used them

[rigid coral]

thanks

[vital cove]

tes

yes

they're very strong

they're very strong even if you can't actually produce them

just putting them in your division with equipment turned off and using siege artillery doctrine

is already very strong

ofc producing them is better but not required for it to be worth

[cedar lance]

ill show my estonian navy size tomorrow

[heavy vigil]

YES

[lapis summit]

HI by any luck does anyone have a Wheel to, spin for random formable nations ?

[cedar lance]

@heavy vigil hello

[heavy vigil]

hiya marko

[unkempt zodiac]

guys WHY am i getting pushed back i have air i have cas i have air supremacy i have supply i have good templates i have anti air WHY AM I GETTING REINFORCED MEMED OFF

[cedar lance]

ill show my estonian navy size tomorrow

[heavy vigil]

click bubble

also it looks like regular infantry, with liw in battke CAS damage

[unkempt zodiac]

it looks like im winning but i still get reinforce memed off anyway

[fair horizon]

pushing with infantry probs and not leaving some entrenched for defense

[unkempt zodiac]

i have 8 tank templates

[heavy vigil]

your tanks have no equipment

[heavy vigil]

theyre useless

[unkempt zodiac]

like

sorry

8 divs

[heavy vigil]

8 divs with no equipment is equal to maybe 2 equipped

[cedar lance]

@heavy vigil i do know i have a LOT of CVs as Estonia

and MANY other ships

[unkempt zodiac]

also i think they have alotta divisions just chilling there for some reason i cant see them

but cant i just casbomb my way through them

[grave sonnet]

You are clearly fighting ghosts they are not affected by bullets

[heavy vigil]

click m

[unkempt zodiac]

my thoughts exactly

[unkempt zodiac]

ohhh i forgot lmao

thanks

[cedar lance]

im still kinda new to hoi4

[grave sonnet]

Also ur supply isn't the greatest so that probably the problem

[cedar lance]

i like building all ships

so i can have a advantage

[fair horizon]

sigh

[trim reef]

any1 wanna do ww1 multiplayer

[unkempt zodiac]

i hate this game so much

[cedar lance]

what nations should i invade as estonia
should i also go straight to TOTAL MOB

[fair horizon]

i dont know why i trusted britian to hold onto singapore

not like they tried to defend it very well in real life either

[grave sonnet]

I feel you

I hate it also but yet I keep coming back everytime

[cedar lance]

someone answer this

[safe wing]

same with me with Attila Total War as the Western Roman Empire because that campaign is so frustrating yet so fun and rewarding

[fair horizon]

ouch

[cursive oxide]

can i get some help with france vs germany 1936 ?

[fair horizon]

now if anyone has any objections to why torp meta is kinda lame theres some proof of why its better than just straight heavy attack. those are 3 torp 1s on destroyers and i dont even have buffs to torps from admiral skills or submarine doctrine

also

probably less ic in destroyers too

also i did research stuff for heavy guns too

[cedar lance]

jesus

lord

[rigid coral]

so its the best to just spam destroyers with torpedoes?

[fair horizon]

currently? yeah dont make quality capitals just make durable ones

[rigid coral]

Do I even need them?

[cedar lance]

should i build more bigger airbases and ports

[fair horizon]

you would

capitals dunk on screens

[rigid coral]

right

[fair horizon]

but stuff with more surface visibility is shot at more often

[upper spruce]

Hello me and my friend search some help because we are playing a game and my friend don't now how to graw loaw about house in america focus tree if someone can help us come in a call pls

[tribal helm]

Cheese

[upper spruce]

no help

bro HELP

not cheese

[lilac notch]

thank you dude 🙏🏻

[fair horizon]

what the heck are these?

[cedar lance]

uhm idk

[turbid thorn]

what trops should i use with germany

[woven gate]

Jet Bombers i think

[rigid coral]

medium tanks

[fair horizon]

germany has no screens left

:)

[cedar lance]

XD

[fair horizon]

not even a hilfkreuzer

[cedar lance]

XD FOOLS

[rigid coral]

Is this MP?

[fair horizon]

no

mp is lame

[viscid sleet]

Thats how we delt with the Germans and japs in ww2
Then we have the middle east theatre, so yeah

[fair horizon]

germany wont let me flush the scharnhorst out of port

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/everyone-hates-chris-my-mother-ate-fries-chris-rpg-chris-dishes-chris-does-the-dishes-gif-12736351656225353884

[fair horizon]

germany's last surface ship :)

[winter badge]

Planes can cook

[fair horizon]

:)

[fickle thicket]

where did the high seas fleet go

[fair horizon]

its not a very high sea fleet anymore

[molten forge]

heeey so

can i use le restistance to make a nation do civil war while am also at war with them

[fickle thicket]

uh idk

i think as long as they have low stability u can trigger a civil war

[fickle thicket]

i think the auzzies sunk it

[molten forge]

0% stab so

[ember flint]

@mild spruce accept my friend req

[fickle thicket]

it will trigger but whats the point when it wont be ur puppet plus ur fascist and the uprising will barely have any divs

[molten forge]

am monarchits

[fickle thicket]

nu uh thats the fascist australian flag

[molten forge]

i didnt even send a photo

[fickle thicket]

top right of the image

[molten forge]

nor image

[fickle thicket]

nvm wrong image

[languid patrol]

whats the best

[safe wing]

What is your goal

[languid patrol]

big empire

annex west coast of america and canada

[safe wing]

All do the same tbh

[languid patrol]

boom

[safe wing]

Do you want a stronger land army or navy or do you want the emperor himself

[languid patrol]

i dont like the flag of the emperor

so

i guess army

[safe wing]

Tojo is the historical path anyway

[cyan prairie]

a

[languid patrol]

boom!

[fair horizon]

italy what are you doing

why do you have 20 battleships

[pliant haven]

Played my first game of online multiplayer

[rapid furnace]

is this a good tank?

[sharp sierra]

yea itz pretty ok

[fair horizon]

looks alright to me, try to get maint company 2 and replace wet ammo with easy maintenance

[sharp sierra]

or yea replace the wet ammo with an extre ammo

i never bother researching the easy maintenance thing but yea you could aim for that

[fair horizon]

cheaper tanks are always good

[sharp sierra]

nope big price = big stats

[warped trail]

It can actually happen

[sharp sierra]

its locked like a pixel height and width ratio is locked

[turbid thorn]

why is my

army always lose to french

[languid patrol]

WHO IS THIS

HISTORICAL BTW

1943

[fair horizon]

speer

[summer stag]

Nepal bot Formes this

Kingdom of Gimalanian

fall of moscow lol

[safe wing]

Speer head of Armorments one of the top Nazis historically speaking

[languid patrol]

hmm

weird ive never heard of him

[fair horizon]

sorry little spainard s

[fallen garnet]

can anyone recommend a good youtube tutorial on navy and naval invasions, cant really find anything good on youtube

[fair horizon]

I mean its pretty simple, you looking to win battles or just naval invade?

[fallen garnet]

well for now I guess mainly naval invading

trying to get britain

[fair horizon]

Germany?

[fallen garnet]

yup

[fair horizon]

Build a half decent fleet and kill the royal navy near gibraltr

They'll run out of screens and be unable to fight you

[fallen garnet]

well when I try to move them towards Gibraltr, I just hear this clicking noise and my navy wont move

[fair horizon]

change their naval base to one you have the ability to use

Portugal or spain will probably give you access

[fallen garnet]

Spains my puppet, does that work too?

[fair horizon]

That works

[fallen garnet]

and when I want to Invade, do I use Naval invasion support or patrol?

[fair horizon]

patrol to get supremacy and when the naval invasion launches you can press invasion support

[south mountain]

First option of course

Patrol is not efficient

It wastes all your fuel

[fallen garnet]

thx

[maiden bolt]

aye who wants to play hoi4 but 1.16.10 with me?

[south mountain]

Is it me or navy is simple

[feral grail]

I didn’t play the game since the release of ncns, pls tell me, how should I build navy for germany now to beat uk?

[maiden bolt]

what mod is that

[craggy trail]

Colored Events

Ironman Compatible

[heavy vigil]

hi tails

im going through mankind's hardest challenge of watching vic3 tutorials

[craggy trail]

Going back at Vic 3 again?

[heavy vigil]

75% of the economy went because of a strategic mistake but mostly industrial unreadiness

trying to learn how to not have eco crash and debt spiral lategame

and also a japan tutorial because that nation is interesting

[queen bronze]

working on OP navy for germany
im in 1951 so im not looking for cheap or anything. ive got time

where can i find good templates

[ruby heath]

I shall get revenge, the Japanese will not resist the red tide

[prisma steppe]

why is the khotan clique so smol

[ruby heath]

China peaced out

I lost like 20% of my occupied land

[prisma steppe]

holy skill issue

[ruby heath]

thats on chinas part, not me

[prisma steppe]

but you occupied it

so that means its a skill issue

shrimple as that

[silk furnace]

sfu?

[craggy trail]

Japan VIc 3 is getting a big update coming soon

[prisma steppe]

we getting unit 731 then?

[heavy vigil]

i heard

[craggy trail]

Not that kind of game

It's a economy/society simulator

[heavy vigil]

its not about updates i just like playing japan

[prisma steppe]

but unit 731 was peaceful research thingy

[unique parcel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/829737438964351056/1332142898820546620/attachment.gif

[slow hazel]

yo anyone up to play holy roman empire germany?

[prisma steppe]

+3% mortality +3% sciency thingy

[craggy trail]

Shogunate stuff

[heavy vigil]

trying to learn how to not be economically dependent and debt spiral do you have any help or experience with this lol

[sharp gulch]

I ❤️ road to 56

[unique parcel]

road to 56 is too laggy

[craggy trail]

Building an export economy is one thing, though you may need to build up your resources first

[grave sonnet]

Rt56 adds too much unnecessary stuff

[sharp gulch]

i got a good pc recently so it snot an issue for me, in the past it was lol

[craggy trail]

But you need the landowners out of power

So build up your capitalists

[heavy vigil]

i dont do it intentionally </3

i dont have landowner issues because there are like none

not playing japan usually

[tired jackal]

now guys

let me cook

light tank japan

with paratroopers

pure army

[sharp gulch]

yeah but it adds monaco and san marino ❤️

[tired jackal]

with mountainer marines

[grave sonnet]

Damn...

[sharp gulch]

and LIECHTNESTEIN

[tired jackal]

yet it runs better than base game. and it good because it for poor people

[grave sonnet]

Yeah that's actually based ngl

[prisma steppe]

nah the japanese will get mauled by the commie chinese militia

[craggy trail]

But yeah. That's as far as I know with my knowledge on Vic 3. My laptop just doesn't run as well to go through mid-late game

[tired jackal]

that what my 20 light tank divisions are for

i mauled china with early light tank rush

[sharp gulch]

liechtenstein focus tree as big as uk focus tree in base hoi4

[heavy vigil]

ah fair enough

[tired jackal]

now imma improve my light tanks

[prisma steppe]

the chinese militia doesnt concern itself with armor stats

[tired jackal]

do they concern themself with my cas?

chinese militia can't fly

can't pierce

china killed in 1939

❤️

8 months it took

[craggy trail]

So for the time being, it's going to be as far as I'll go now

[prisma steppe]

they can build wall out of themselves

[sharp gulch]

i forgot to build an airforce till 1938 in that czechia game i showed and got shit on by bombers lol

[prisma steppe]

they converts themselves to factories

they convert themselves to planes

they convert themselves to AA

the wall will be so high it will be reaching the heavens

the commie chinese militia org wall doesnt concern itself with any "stats-alter"

[maiden bolt]

my 34k men is cooked 💔

[maiden bolt]

whats this?

[warped trail]

Battle result

[ruby heath]

💀

[grave sonnet]

Closing it must have felt heavenly

[ruby heath]

and the british would somehow get that manpower back in 3 months

[maiden bolt]

how do i see the battle result?

[grave sonnet]

There's a little paper

Next to the theatres

[warped trail]

Here

[maiden bolt]

oh ight thanks

[jade ore]

most of the time its, you see a good 10 divisions get destroyed then the entire thing goes pop 🙏

[grave sonnet]

☝🏼

[tired jackal]

japanese light tank

blitzkrieg across asia

[jade ore]

nice but its a light tank u do not need 42 armor and 14.44 production cost

[ruby heath]

progress report: I have taken half of my cores but japan is on a roll rn

[tired jackal]

im using armour because the AI puts anti tank in there division for 42 templates

espically america

[brave siren]

Why do I lowkey prefer countries with the generic focus tree over ones with actual content

[jade ore]

ur telling me theyh dont pen ur 42 armor? woah

[jade ore]

cuz too complicated?

[brave siren]

Fair

[grave sonnet]

Long Burma looks so right the borders look Too good

[ruby heath]

india is about to be split in half

the british are nowhere to be seen

[prisma steppe]

@tired jackal VS @ruby heath thine battle will be legendary

[ember vine]

||Tsardom of Bulgaria jumpscare||

[brave siren]

I think it’s also because going from weak to strong is more satisfying than going from strong to stronger

[ruby heath]

who?

[jade ore]

https://giphy.com/gifs/laughing-minions-minion-lcjvA848mj48ds48gk

[grave sonnet]

True Bulgarian border just add Dobruja and Macedonia

[prisma steppe]

the fella who shizod about japanese shit

[ruby heath]

damn

[prisma steppe]

kinda smol

also why is the name [REDACTED]

[tired jackal]

well there 1941 light tanks there gona last me all game

[ruby heath]

what do ya say @tired jackal ?

[tired jackal]

so i might as well make sure they workk

[tired jackal]

for what

[ruby heath]

the 1v1?

[ember vine]

||Nightmare Bulgaria jumpscare||

[tired jackal]

on what

[heavy vigil]

im waiting out a really bad economic collapse lol

[jade ore]

they wont, the ai is gonna research better anti-tank and then will start to pen you

[ruby heath]

ngl you would probably whip me because early china is kinda buns

[prisma steppe]

wait let me cook up a meme

[safe wing]

not even Bulgaria at its zenith see first Bulgarian Empire

[prisma steppe]

its gonna take a minute

[ruby heath]

you play japan and i play PRC

[tired jackal]

the light tanks are just meant to blitz down them in the first year or two

[ember vine]

Bro thats the first bulgarian empire

[safe wing]

this is

[jade ore]

how the frick do u even sustain an economy whenever i play as egypt i always get into defecit at some point

[ruby heath]

idrk @prisma steppe propesed it

[woven dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-fnaf-4-fnaf4-camera-gif-6773247778094777617

[tired jackal]

imma be honest im not the good yet.

my second playthrough of japan

i just did naval germany which i took usa in 1943 via naval invasions

[ruby heath]

ive played china alot but im only really good once it gets into the later game

[ruby heath]

peak

[tired jackal]

no i lowkey just use mountaineers on the north

[ruby heath]

damn

[tired jackal]

and the chinese ai loves to overextend

and you just go south

and pin the north

it like a big crunch and bite

[ruby heath]

the chinese ai is so dumb

[ember vine]

1453 byzantium mfs when the battleships grow legs

[ember vine]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-unus-annus-gif-25071597

[ruby heath]

https://tenor.com/view/lunch-gif-18170879

[woven dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-kitkat-break-me-off-a-piece-of-that-kitkat-bar-markiplier-scared-markiplier-camera-gif-6766385274341968274

[ember vine]

https://tenor.com/view/metroman-dance-gif-10326567158988953086

[ruby heath]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-markiplier-meme-markiplier-face-markiplier-api-appi-gif-13719754963932749824

[uncut pollen]

[ruby heath]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1106205020115959810/1482034987447488612/Scraping_the_barrel.gif

[languid patrol]

i could make mega china

[merry sluice]

lowkey feel so happy

[safe wing]

alright time to spam 18/0's as Poland and reclaim the commonwealth

[uncut pollen]

Congrats

[merry sluice]

pure infantry with artillery no tanks

🙂

[ember vine]

Me ordering my newborns to attack 9 4x3 infantry, 2x1 artillery, artillery support, engineer support, scout support, anti tank support and anti air support soviet divisions

[ruby heath]

[ruby heath]

real

[prisma steppe]

@tired jackal

[ruby heath]

I dont even use militias

[prisma steppe]

try em

they are busted

[safe wing]

that is not good

[ruby heath]

I just use any division i have to hold the line until i get a good division design to hold the line better

thats just guns

then I add support companies and artillery once I get the industry

[ember vine]

Wont Balkan Pact survive this tho

[jade ore]

likely go into hungary then it will outflank the czech defenses

[patent thistle]

dont mind if i do ; )

[jade ore]

they already took 1 tile and i dont think theres forts after that 1 tile in czechoslovakia

[prisma steppe]

the mongoloids.... erm the hungarians will hold the line with their cavalary

[ember vine]

Hungary with Romania together stronk

[prisma steppe]

robmania steal, hungry give them better mobility for more efficient stealing

[jade ore]

maybe

[prisma steppe]

cavalary mounted robmanians

imagine

[jade ore]

rob all the german weapons

[prisma steppe]

they normally only have donkey but the horse will push em to true greatness

[ember vine]

Scavenger lvl 999

[maiden bolt]

The Battle of Washington DC

[jade ore]

w

[ember vine]

When will Czechoslovakia DLC come out

[prisma steppe]

now add the devastation overhaul mod and burn dc to the ground

the stat "civilians" & "refugees" lost is truelly peak

[lethal ether]

what!

copium trade

[ruby heath]

Japan justified on me. didnt have enough divisions to hold and thus a disaster save

[trim reef]

how can i win against the polish i have bigger airforce and millitairy but stilll loose

[ruby heath]

which nation are you?

[trim reef]

germany

[ruby heath]

first time playing hoi4?

[trim reef]

yeah

but i know stuff

[ruby heath]

i prefer you play the tutorial or watch gameplays of germany before you actually play the game

[trim reef]

just is i have stonger divisions but i cant penetrate. and i have watched

i know the basics

[tired jackal]

who needs a navy as japan?

[trim reef]

just every time i start war with polish i get pushed back far

[ruby heath]

it might be because you arent producing the correct equipment or you are using the same divisions from the start

[trim reef]

ohhhhhh

how do i change divisions

[ruby heath]

https://tenor.com/view/peppino-scream-pizza-tower-peppino-gif-27612396

[tired jackal]

alr imma teach you how to win as germany

[ruby heath]

watch youtube tutorials

thats how i did it

[maiden bolt]

The capital of the US have been captured. now time for me to destroy their navy already

[tired jackal]

he doesn't like my army only japan

he said it was weak

[ruby heath]

who?

[trim reef]

fr? 😁

[tired jackal]

yeah i can give you screenshots of templates i use against AI

[trim reef]

yes pls

[ruby heath]

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-tower-chefs-kiss-gustavo-gustavo-and-brick-brick-gif-14006744133513466092

[tired jackal]

1938 medium

late 1938 fighter

put armour plates on it please

[prisma steppe]

ms paint is truelly the greatest of programms

[trim reef]

how do i get into those menus

[prisma steppe]

who tf uses turreted fighters

[tired jackal]

someone who didn't research armour plates

🥀 😭

[ruby heath]

i prefer you switch the small cannonss with the machine gun variant because you loose less reliability

[maiden bolt]

The Napoleon has Now dominate the seas

[tired jackal]

reliability doesn't matter

it just means you attrion more

[ruby heath]

pizza tower is peak

[prisma steppe]

it removes agility, only gives like 1 air attack and costs more

why

just yeet it

[tired jackal]

it ai

i said just add armour plates

[prisma steppe]

on cas remove the turret and add the cheap materials one

[trim reef]

how to get into that menu

[tired jackal]

that to

[tired jackal]

no dlc?

[prisma steppe]

cas doesnt need air attack

[ruby heath]

thats 20% reliability gone, you are gonna be making more tanks which means its gonna take longer for your stockpile to fill up

[trim reef]

i have one dlc

[tired jackal]

they nerfed converting strategy

[trim reef]

the more tanks one

[tired jackal]

you need alld dlc's

i recommend you

cough

borrow the dlc

but you know it whatever

[prisma steppe]

true nikkas dont use armor nor air

[ruby heath]

im not talking about the converting strategy but ight. imma go now

[prisma steppe]

only spam militia or cavalry

or in germanys case heavy armored cars

[tired jackal]

i usually make soft attack tanks only

get out!!

[ruby heath]

https://tenor.com/view/peppino-pizza-tower-combo-ill-willed-p-rank-gif-1361215268016215771

[final spindle]

hi

[trim reef]

so i cant get into that menu?

[prisma steppe]

gore?!?!?

[exotic bridge]

is dark blue a good color for the supply view? I still don't understand how the color works

[safe wing]

how is this peace deal

I have Estonia as a puppet BTW

[exotic bridge]

I've never seen a non historical turn like this

[leaden oyster]

Any way to get bessarbia back from the sovjets as byzantium without going to war with them?

I need to core the balkans but cant without it

[tired jackal]

oh yes

army only japan

base infrantry with 500 soft

[exotic bridge]

full speed ahead

[tired jackal]

can't beat army only japan

[ashen loom]

https://tenor.com/view/escanor-gif-10507320087304996260

[exotic bridge]

well all I have to do is just obliterate your supply and convoys

and if your going army only wouldn't that leave you incredibly vulnerable to literally everything

[oak mantle]

special forces japan on top

[patent thistle]

HOLY- yes please-

[sharp gulch]

holding 2 fronts and the soviets are just throwing people into my guns and forts

i love r to 56

[lapis summit]

What do i choose to puppet spain pls

[ivory hull]

use bomb locks instead

[ivory hull]

i think it doesnt matter

[patent thistle]

not with me japan

[ivory hull]

just do the ideology decision for puppets once the war is over

[lapis summit]

what are those ?

(i never puppeted spain before)

Like i will have decision after it ends to puppet them ?

[patent thistle]

LOL THE FACTION INFLUENCE-

[ivory hull]

thats decisions you have for any puppet to boost ideology and to coup

[patent thistle]

i request you kindly to f off japan

[dim hazel]

i genuinely hate italy with every fiber of my being

[shy bloom]

Guys Should I accept IDK

[ivory hull]

no field marshals?

and no czechia?

[oak mantle]

im confused

how is germany sending an ultimatum to germany

[patent thistle]

get f-ed japan

[trim reef]

any1 wanna play

[oak mantle]

do you go into like a civil war if you decline

[shy bloom]

Am not in war rmn

[ivory hull]

why does that matter

[sharp gulch]

damnnnn

im kinda new to hoi4 so im imporessed

[patent thistle]

GET F-ED

seriously japan? doesnt it get boring at some point?

[strong umbra]

ooh

idk

the sidses are pretty even

[patent thistle]

lol

[exotic bridge]

congress loves me

[strong umbra]

ehh we have more stuff

[patent thistle]

wait until someone on the house gets a hissy fit

also do the grant statehood things, its free support and cores

[exotic bridge]

nah bro I'm just so likeable every time they leave me they come back

[exotic bridge]

can't afford it right now it's still pretty early I was spending all my power on maintaining this so I can fix the economy

[patent thistle]

force statehood on the squatters (puerto Rico) and make them pay tax

[exotic bridge]

well I can afford two but not all of them

[patent thistle]

oof

and i question why the japanese line was crumbling-

also that one manchu guy that died makes me feel bad lol

[tired jackal]

year 1 completed

rahhhhh\

[patent thistle]

rip

[slim nexus]

Hi im noob

[uncut pollen]

Hello noob

[slim nexus]

can you help me flowi

[uncut pollen]

Beginners Guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCqXIRRVZIY
Advanced Guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgDTSfLAuI0

[slim nexus]

yes its a question about the guide

[south mountain]

I got a short guide about the combat system

https://youtu.be/1IIjk4bAh68?is=2Br5f1-t_Y9cNO9r

[slim nexus]

#ask-for-help-here

[patent thistle]

i think this might be joever for japan

[patent thistle]

you can guess who is next

[floral anchor]

im about to buy and play the game any ideas on how should i play (im not kidding i dont know any stuff in the game)

[uncut pollen]

You should play germany

Or better

As poland

Its easy

The germany ai makes alot of mistakes

[floral anchor]

is the game historically accurate? so all of europe doesnt go against me

[oak mantle]

Ig bro

[split wyvern]

Hi, i just started playing Hearts of Iron 4, where can i find beginner tutorials?

[uncut pollen]

Yep

[floral anchor]

ohh

[uncut pollen]

Here

Beginners Guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCqXIRRVZIY
Advanced Guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgDTSfLAuI0

[split wyvern]

Thank you

[uncut pollen]

No problem

[split wyvern]

But, i always wondered, can i play as Kim Il Sung

[uncut pollen]

Im always here to help

[oak mantle]

I think you can if you release north korea somehow

[uncut pollen]

Yeah but there wont be a focus tree as korea

[oak mantle]

I seen a scuffed hoi4 vanilla scenario with north korea relesed

[split wyvern]

If you're able to find the name, can you tell it please

[oak mantle]

It was ages ago

[uncut pollen]

I just noticed

[split wyvern]

Okay

Yeah

[last cave]

whats the point of this🥀

[patent thistle]

dont mind if i steal your faction china ; )

[azure palm]

Is there a possibility that china doesnt refuse the safeguard the shanghai settlement demand?

[vivid juniper]

Best historical Japan game

Ish

I modified China to go fascist and communist China unwilling dierarchy so I would have a weaker China

However, I would’ve gone to war with the allies, but Portugal happened

Portugal joined the axis and went down its historical path, which allows it to go to war with Japan

I am not fighting both at the same time

[broken thorn]

Guys rate my concept of the saint chamond but if it was made2 in the 1920s instead

I made it more detailed after the photos, I'll send them here tomorrow

[obsidian sigil]

do you still get faction goal rewards if you dont have the goal selected

as in it happens in the background

[merry sluice]

problems for big nations 😭

[rapid furnace]

GG

[obsidian sigil]

is bro like

in south america

germany ukraine and usa have basically inf coal

i have like 600 factories as usa and i never had to even think about coal

[merry sluice]

behold my most prized possesion (Idk how to even assign this massive thing to anything)

[rapid furnace]

wth

[obsidian sigil]

bro is conscripting sperm cells

like i cant even handle 3 army groups without like 20 divisions always attritioning in fucberia because i forgot about them

[patent thistle]

special military operation into fake china fr fr

[dusky burrow]

merge it all together and then separate the subs

[merry sluice]

What do yall think of my progress?

[strong umbra]

im getting cassed on hard

[azure palm]

Most big nations have too much coal. WHAT ARE YOU DOING

[oak mantle]

Nah they dont late game

But -4500 is unheard of

[merry sluice]

maybe eu unificatoin wasn't such a great idea 🗿

[obsidian sigil]

h

how

[azure palm]

what in the name of god is that

[obsidian sigil]

1.1k is like

not bad

thats like what

1-2k coal or something?

[azure palm]

HOW

[oak mantle]

i dont even think thats possible tbh

unless ur on like total mob and remove all the coal from the map and annex everything

[azure palm]

and core everything

[merry sluice]

I kinda have war economy on

[oak mantle]

go to civ eco twin

[patent thistle]

see russia? thats a special military operation

[merry sluice]

from -13k to -6k not bad eh

[exotic bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrasad-gif-23310565

[merry sluice]

don't worry twin I made it go from -13k to -6k

[azure dagger]

W

[exotic bridge]

this alone has crippled my steel economy😭

wait france has a lot of steel...

[merry sluice]

🥂 You know what time it is

[exotic bridge]

America against the world

oh wait I can just expand steel works france is safe for now

[patent thistle]

its possible as the US to have no steel?

[exotic bridge]

yes if you really and I mean really build up a navy

BFB for short inspired by the BFG from doom

[patent thistle]

thanks btw for the ships lol

[snow rain]

Free trade export law will do that to you

[patent thistle]

then dont use it lol-

[exotic bridge]

it's not even 1939 yet I have to use it I'm building an economy

[snow rain]

As US you don't need to build an eco, you already have a massive one

Go down to exports, you'll be fine

[timid trail]

@timid trail @spring hearth @uncut horizon @modern depot @wanton crypt @merry gale @merry gale @winter zealot @undone narwhal @quiet dune @sudden torrent

holy

thats an army of Tommies

[ripe quail]

why did you @ all of them lmao

[timid trail]

Avengers assemble ahh

[snow rain]

Don't cold ping random people like that wth

[timid trail]

Maybe one will come on and we can talk as good civilised Tommies

[exotic bridge]

never a big enough economy can always expand but I will in a bit

[exotic bridge]

tommy might be a popular name

[timid trail]

no, this is truly a 1 in a million moment

[dusky burrow]

As shown, yes

[last cave]

💔

[jade cliff]

Don't you just love it when you accidenetly declare war on the entire world as Spain?

Because I sure do!!

[dusky burrow]

what did you even do

[last cave]

Anarhist path?

[jade cliff]

Yes.

[jade cliff]

Declared war on France.. Which then invited the entire world to its faction.

[strong umbra]

yippee

[jade cliff]

And then somehow brought me into a war against another faction.

[dusky burrow]

did world tension get to 80/100?

[dusky burrow]

yay hitler's gone

[last cave]

yipeee

[jade cliff]

I didn't.. But Europe did.

[strong umbra]

no i killed hitler then i killed democratic germany

[dusky burrow]

oof

[dusky burrow]

still a yay

gosh damnit soviet union btw

[strong umbra]

allies at war with cominterm btw

[jade cliff]

I'm surprisingly winning, (I got 3 encirclements so far, but I'm at 0% stability, I have a 3000 gun deficit, I have a shortage of everything, and my airforce is literally just 10 biplanes that somehow hasn't been shot down yet).

[strong umbra]

the wars are a bit goofy

[jade cliff]

Well, winning as in slowly losing ground, but they're losing a bunch of soldiers by doing it.

[strong umbra]

historical ai btw

[jade cliff]

Seems very historical to me.

[strong umbra]

i capped germany thats why

[dusky burrow]

get military access from the us and invade japan directly

[random parrot]

Where exactly is the airport? 💀

[dusky burrow]

which one?

oh

[random parrot]

you see how bad it is for you to ask that

[strong umbra]

yes becasue mty navy is so big and i have paras aswell definetly mhm and my 44 divisons template definetly arent absolute butcheeks

tbh i wanna join on the side of japan

not allies

[dusky burrow]

the tile where the airport is on is in misiones and if you lose that tile you lose the airport, but it seems like the center of the state is actually on the argentina-brazil-uruguay tripoint and that's where it calculates range from

[dusky burrow]

well you have no choice now

in any case i managed to naval invade japan as iraq

[strong umbra]

wdym

oh wait

im stupid

[random parrot]

oh, thats how it works

i thought it was just a bug

[strong umbra]

factrions are also rly weird rn

i am 2nd tho

thats quite jolly good

[patent thistle]

considering i am not dead last and i am the only one in the faction place 4 is still okay

[strong umbra]

i think tbh im just gonna abandon this run cuz i feel like the other path is stronger

[patent thistle]

reistance is futile korea

[strong umbra]

hell naw

[patent thistle]

we are only here to protect you from the japanese trust

[exotic bridge]

yall reckon this is enough rails?

[strong umbra]

u actually playing demo

[patent thistle]

nah fengtian

[strong umbra]

dont waste ur civs

[patent thistle]

already wasted a crap ton of my civs to purchase a few ships

[strong umbra]

btw it took me 1.05k hours to realize that you should always go for air and not aa in singleplayer

[patent thistle]

a "few"

[strong umbra]

do u even have naval aircraft?

[young lake]

So. As China should I just park myself behind the yellow river or should I just let my lines slowly fall back to the river?

[strong umbra]

just win

as china

[young lake]

I won last time but It felt like cheating 😭

[strong umbra]

DID U CHEAT?

[young lake]

Cus the Ussr joined cus Japan declared on Communist China

I could hold my lines, I couldnt push

Alone

[strong umbra]

thats no fun

u get no war score

[young lake]

Ik

[young lake]

I did 10% of the war participation and took like 4M casualties

😭

[patent thistle]

they get actually more naval attack due to armor piercing bombs as simple naval bombers

[young lake]

This was a W encirclement tho lwkkk