hoi4-general

[south mountain]

I hate when the AI especially USA in hoi4 has like 40 divisions per tile

[patent thistle]

alt+f4 and delete

[steel zephyr]

hated that too until i realised how good signal companies are at reinforce meming

[lethal ether]

u can slice through so easily since they never have supply and its like the most crappy divisions ever

[snow rain]

that's no issue if you have good divs to push

[snow rain]

radio company doesn't allow to reinforce meme

it reduce the chance you get meme

[south mountain]

When those divisions have no supply 💔

[patent thistle]

LOL.

[steel zephyr]

ah, well i suppose it still helps with meming by not getting outmemed

[snow rain]

because initiative means more reinforce rate
what you want is coordination and high atk stats to meme the enemy

[sudden thistle]

i may need to do more than that

[patent thistle]

nah just alt+f4 then delete the game

[lunar silo]

maybe

[pseudo stream]

guys is this a good tank ?

[steel zephyr]

holy ai

[lethal ether]

you can just not bother and throw your pc out a window

[patent thistle]

fire

[steel zephyr]

all very nice but combat width is best at 36 allegedly

[patent thistle]

just org a little low

[sudden thistle]

all because i took away serfdom

i may need it back

[steel zephyr]

oh yeah you gonna aim for >30 org

[south mountain]

What about the "expert ai" mod?

[pseudo stream]

ok

[steel zephyr]

a nice kdr with no supply attacking an urban area is nice to see

[patent thistle]

if i was romania i would feel VERY unconforatable

[sudden thistle]

its kinda mid

[snow rain]

yes except it's too big, the breakthrough is too high for singleplayer (wasted), and the cost of that thing is scaring me

[patent thistle]

and also the org is fairly low

[snow rain]

28 is fine

probably no doctrine

[south mountain]

Not a problem here.

[snow rain]

30 is the average you want to aim for. More doesn't hurt but isn't the priority

[heavy vigil]

do you want me to break it down

[snow rain]

sure

[steel zephyr]

excluding changing the arty for SPG which is what im gonna do, is there anything else that needs changing to this?

[south mountain]

Change the name of the division.

[snow rain]

make it 32 width (can battleplan mountains this way)
change radio for hospital, armored lightt ank recon, recon rangers (best for this kind of units if you can have both mountaineer and rangers doctrines) or super heavy howitzer

[heavy vigil]

12 tanks 8 mech with flame tanks, support maintanace (armor), MEV, no field hosp, maybe logistics?

[snow rain]

I was expecting to see you dance

[steel zephyr]

oh yeah I forgot, named it "Line division" back before it became a sort of space marine

[heavy vigil]

no.....

[lethal ether]

🥭

[heavy vigil]

anyway id do less tanks more mech, theres def supports i missed

because org is low and support equipment higher

but i cant really pin them down

oh wait it has signals im dumb

[patent thistle]

.

I WANNA

[steel zephyr]

does Ai not understand the concept of flanks

[young lake]

Who even needs an economy!

[jade ore]

wrong discord lol

[young lake]

😭

Whoops

xd

[jade ore]

how do you even improve your economy + SOL i struggle so hard w it 💀

[young lake]

Bro Ive gone through 4 civil wars 😭

Then Germany declares on me after

Like what

[jade ore]

i mean

that's pretty like

realistic i guess

[young lake]

I tried to win before then got SMOKED

[oak mantle]

No

[young lake]

So I reloaded the save and deployed 200 conscripts

[oak mantle]

The tank is okay but its not good

[agile musk]

who will play with me?

[agile musk]

wow

[south mountain]

I heard Turkey with its corresponding dlc focus tree is good because it has a lot of focuses enough for the whole game.

Seems to be interesting.

[polar radish]

Is the conversion tech research still real

or am i dumb

[oak mantle]

If you like the entire focus tree to be 70 days then yeah

[young lake]

Bet

[agile musk]

what?

[polar radish]

Or was it totally replaced by coal

cause I cant find it in the tree

[violet veldt]

Hear me out

Buff the starting railways and supply hubs for the us

(Like more of them and higher levels)

[steel zephyr]

maginot spotted ungarrisoned?!

💀 all it took was taking paris

[modest condor]

Don't click it

[errant remnant]

rate the game so far

[winged field]

there are more kebab lands to conquer still

[woven gate]

1700s ahh game

i just went for a walk

[errant remnant]

LOL

[steel zephyr]

🌹 probably my biggest encirclement ever so far

[woven gate]

FDR's rolling in his wheelchair grave

[steel zephyr]

how to convince your allies to put their navy where i need it to be 😢

[young lake]

Beg?

[steel zephyr]

singleplayer

[young lake]

Yeah I know

Beg to the hoi4 gods

[steel zephyr]

begging for a controlled english channel 😢

[young lake]

Every DLC you buy is another fleet where you want it to be

[steel zephyr]

got all the DLCs

my allies gotta lock in

i just got uk to capitulate

alongside lebanon and oman for some reason but

uk is the big bad

[young lake]

Just paradrop

[sudden grotto]

bro is rich

[young lake]

Make like 40 paradroppers

[sudden grotto]

give me 20 bucks

[sudden grotto]

i think they would put it only if they get the naval supremacy before, so never

[steel zephyr]

bad time to tell you that I've got absolutely 0 paratrooper or transport tech

[sudden grotto]

try put the fleet far away from the british mainland, convoy raid and be prepared in case the UK AI messes up and takes off from the english channel

[steel zephyr]

I got no fleet either

[sudden grotto]

sometimes it worked to me

[steel zephyr]

I'm Hungary

[sudden grotto]

bruh

and horthy is an admoiral

so what ?

turks trained ships on land why cant hungarians fr fr

[prisma saddle]

hi bro

[errant remnant]

rate the game

[prisma saddle]

damn

can you give some tips for byzantine?

[vital cove]

is the ai programed to just never take unite the anglosphere focus

will it not take it no matter what

[violet veldt]

?

[smoky prairie]

?

[young lake]

Just like me fr

[steel zephyr]

that was my game 6 hours ago

now its like this

from this

[quick jungle]

is this a W?

[patent thistle]

might be a little too high for speed?

[quick jungle]

thats TOO LOW

[patent thistle]

its a medium, not a light tank

[quick jungle]

give it better engine stats

9.6KM/H is abominable

[quick jungle]

rq how do i get tank designing like this

[patent thistle]

you mean the tank designer?

[quick jungle]

ja

[patent thistle]

no step back DLC

[quick jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/wallet-gif-25866507

[patent thistle]

same reaction i had when someone complained that i didnt have the plane designer from By blood alone

[quick jungle]

i have 22 bucks, is that enough for the DLC (plus tax)

[sudden thistle]

maybe?

[patent thistle]

for me its 20 euro

you have to see how much its for you

[sharp sierra]

dude the ai having military access to so many countries sucks

[quick jungle]

same price except in USD

[sharp sierra]

the troops keep their orders and walk into my territory from the neutral countries even after taking the land back

[patent thistle]

HEY YOU TECHNICALLY GET IT CHEAPER

[quick jungle]

19.99

plus your currency is like 1 Euro to 3 USD

i need money

[patent thistle]

I AM GETTING SCAMMED OUT OF 3,23 USD

[quick jungle]

rq, i live in indiana, so use the state tax math to tell me how much i need to buy no step back

[patent thistle]

you likely dont even have to pay for tax extra on steam

idk tho

[quick jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-vii-remake-cloud-strife-tifa-lockhart-aerith-gainsborough-cloti-gif-27060423

its legally required vro

[patent thistle]

well i never got an extra fee even tho my digital tax rate is higher then yours most likely

[primal cobalt]

no military access or ally not called maybe

[quick jungle]

in the US, you just have to pay the same state tax as where your device is located by law, plus the contents main price

i believe its 7 cents for every dollar

[jaunty grail]

erm i found a few grammatical mistakes which according to my calculations should not be present 🤓 ☝️

[quick jungle]

7% of every dollar

21.39

if i wanna get it with a steam giftcard, which is my only option im outta luck because i dont have a card

[quick jungle]

that tax is on game content too

[patent thistle]

my digital tax rate is 19% and i dont get an extra fee

[jaunty grail]

you guys pay taxes? wouldnt that require a j*b?

[sonic parrot]

I have a question are ballistic missiles worth it?

[quick jungle]

do not censor JOB around here, unemployed

[patent thistle]

you also pay so called sales tax which you pay for just wanting to buy something

[jaunty grail]

why we blatantly saying slurs

[patent thistle]

because the goverment really likes your money

[jaunty grail]

thats intersting

[jaunty grail]

ah

what happens if you evade them

[patent thistle]

you quite litterally cant avoid the sales tax

[quick jungle]

the state just does it so they can afford the buildings they set up

[jaunty grail]

i can

[quick jungle]

if you do thats gonna get the IRS on you

[jaunty grail]

i just ask the cashier not to do it and they like me so they donot

[quick jungle]

the cashier needs that job though

if they dont apply the tax they get fired because you have to

[patent thistle]

thats what they want you to think little do you know the money goes mostly into what they call "investments" and "salery" of politicians

[jaunty grail]

no it goes straight to israel

[patent thistle]

that too

[quick jungle]

ive seen it in action, ive seen the old roads get straight pulled up and replaced with clean roads that are more stable

[patent thistle]

and here we are in germany NRW with still the shitty roads from like 1999

[jaunty grail]

1 percen to fixing roads 99 percent to israel

[quick jungle]

they mainly check the region for unexploded bombs, thats why

[quick jungle]

0.00000000000000000000000001% to construction, 99.999% to israel

who else listens to sabaton when playing hoi4?

[patent thistle]

nah most of the money goes into something called "Solidaritätszuschlag" which is basically a tax just for formerly west germany to rebuild the east, yet we still have a crap ton of unfinished airports which wasted money like hell, and at this point the roads in the east are looking better as in the west

[violet veldt]

"Taxes😔" read marx smh my head

[quick jungle]

communist slop*

[quick jungle]

if you look at how the soviets were treating the eastern construction, they have kinda a reason to do that

[violet veldt]

No no the small businees owners should take the surplus value of my labor, not stinky government

[quick jungle]

communism, a mental illness (same for fascism and the worse one)

[sharp sierra]

sabaton is ass

[violet veldt]

Mr rich mgee definitely spends the value created by underpaying me better than guvernmrnt

[quick jungle]

get out

[violet veldt]

Ofc its a sabatonoid saying this shit lmao

[sharp sierra]

their tones and songwriting are ass

dog shit drumming

[violet veldt]

And can you pleease tell me whats wrong with the mentally ill :3

[quick jungle]

ive studied enough history to know this

[violet veldt]

I have autism btw

[sharp sierra]

modern country but for ww2 nerds

[jaunty grail]

can someone look at ask for help rq i dont wanna get obliterated by a mod

[quick jungle]

autism isnt problematic, unlike communism and fascism

[violet veldt]

"History" and its a racist us textbook

[patent thistle]

that pothole has been here since f***ing 2010

[violet veldt]

Why is mental illness bad

[quick jungle]

textbooks? i dont use those

[violet veldt]

You love fascism i already know

[quick jungle]

anyways if we take a quick look at what fascism has done, horrendous stuff

[quick jungle]

superitory of democracy

[violet veldt]

Fascism's whole point is to oppose communism

[quick jungle]

yeah and i hate both

[jaunty grail]

omg westfalen i built factories there

[violet veldt]

I love backing fascist franco❤️ im so democratic btw

Voting rights except for minorities❤️

[quick jungle]

voting rights belong to citizens, including the minorities

[patent thistle]

more shit road to show

[violet veldt]

I love supporting foreign coups

Iran 1953 buckaroo

[jaunty grail]

(hes right)

[quick jungle]

and now look at the next iranian leader, who just got incinerated recently

[violet veldt]

Obv sarcasm

[violet veldt]

Fascism is bad yes

[quick jungle]

i lived in a town with less than 2,000 people, how does it have better roads than that german town

[violet veldt]

But have you ever actually read anything from marx

[patent thistle]

i fell so many god forsaken times of my bike on this bit here i can litterally not even count it using all my fingers both my foots

[quick jungle]

ive seen the history of communism, actual insanity

[jaunty grail]

its funny how only the people who never had to live in a communist or post communist setting love communism

[violet veldt]

I dont like lenin either and anything from marxist-leninism

[violet veldt]

Communism has literally never happened 💔

[sharp sierra]

quirky commie

[quick jungle]

ukraine, for example has outlawed communist parties and also changes literal lenin or stalin statues to darth vader every so often

[jaunty grail]

because the communist utopia you dream of CANT happen

[quick jungle]

"no wealth" directly collapses society

[safe wing]

Same

[quick jungle]

and during the process of communism, someone will get insanely rich through their work

its IMPOSSIBLE

[safe wing]

Because both suck and fail led miserably

[quick jungle]

communism or socialism do not work at all

[patent thistle]

because your local goverment actually cares about you

[violet veldt]

Way better than you letting people socially murder margianalized minority groups for votes

[safe wing]

100%

[jaunty grail]

and they always will be led miserably unfortunately, we could argue of what would be good in theory but human nature wont allow for it

[violet veldt]

And capitalism does?

[quick jungle]

i live in a very republican state, the one party that specifically sends so much to israel

[jaunty grail]

much more than communism

[violet veldt]

How many children do you starve for that talking point

[quick jungle]

do i wanna face food shortages?

[violet veldt]

Lmao

[quick jungle]

every communist country in history has faced them

killing much of their people

[violet veldt]

Look at us food insecurity

Look at ireland

[patent thistle]

litterally on a main road here

[violet veldt]

"Communist" anf its state capitalism

[quick jungle]

and a horrifying part of this, the soviets engineered an enormous famine in one of their SSRs

[violet veldt]

Im not an ml smh my head

[safe wing]

China, Vietnam had to abandon economic communism because of how bad it is economically

[quick jungle]

also a reason why i hate the UKs monarchy

[jaunty grail]

capitalism is nowhere near perfect and it is exploitative but it gave my family the opportunity to migrate from poor moldova to the uk and lead a somewhat decent life

[patent thistle]

still there, since f***ing 2012

[violet veldt]

Isnt capitalism why moldova is poor

[safe wing]

Lmao no

[jaunty grail]

corruption and post communism is

[violet veldt]

Exploiting cheap labor

[quick jungle]

i saw a pothole one time in that town, like a few weeks later i saw the same thing but it no longer existed

[safe wing]

Gulags did this too btw

[violet veldt]

Look at africa and south america during capitalism

[quick jungle]

no, thats communism, if we compare the GDP growth of moldova, under communist ideals it was much less

[violet veldt]

Its okay because the people im against do it

Mls are capitalists too

Stalin was a capitalist too yknow

Even lenin wanted state capitalism

[quick jungle]

another example of gulag treachery, there was an assignment for hundreds of gulag prisoners to build it themselves, they were barely given food and resorted to cannibalism to survive

this happened under stalin

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/hahahahaha-funny-as-hell-hilarious-laugh-let-me-laugh-even-harder-gif-17352083

[patent thistle]

our entire goverment wastes Money on stupid things, airports which never get finished, new railway track which also never gets finished, CLOSING TRAIN STOPS, i can name SO MANY MORE THINGS

[violet veldt]

Literally look at how bad worker rights was during the industrialization period

[quick jungle]

the railway where i lived has been finished longer than germany was united

[violet veldt]

They did strikebreaking mate

Whats more capitalist than that

[tulip thorn]

Why are we arguing about politics and stuff in hoi4 general

[safe wing]

That’s dictatorship though your literally wah wah wah everything I don’t like is capitalist or fascist

[quick jungle]

that was before laws were actually better for workers safety and rights

[tulip thorn]

This is pointless

[violet veldt]

Communism is when da goburnmen do thing🙏

[tulip thorn]

Just move on and play hoi4

[violet veldt]

O am very smart

[patent thistle]

oh do i have to remind you that our main industry, Steel production. got completely guted

[sharp sierra]

what are your thoughts on the entire leftist population of oregon being gone in a few generations

the fertility rate is so low

[violet veldt]

Communism is when da gubernment has red flag and doesnt like western

[safe wing]

People who say they are smart aren’t usually smart

Like you

[quick jungle]

my state produces 27% of americas steel

[violet veldt]

Because im being sarcastic?

[patent thistle]

the rhineland was historically always a big iron and coal producer

[violet veldt]

Communism is when da gobernmen nationalize thing

Not stateless classless moneyless society

[patent thistle]

both industries do not exist anymore

[safe wing]

Also socalists and communists are my enemies because of how terrible they behave at my uni

[violet veldt]

Socialism not work, go back to social darwinism stupid idealist🤬

[safe wing]

And so are the fascists

[quick jungle]

marx wanted there to be no classism or money in a communist "utopia"* *dystopia

[violet veldt]

Litetally look at the gilded age

[safe wing]

Again strawmanning

[patent thistle]

.

[patent thistle]

.

[tulip thorn]

Just play hoi4

[violet veldt]

How?

Bringing up soviet atrocities isnt strawmanning?

[tulip thorn]

Political discussions dont belong here

[jaunty grail]

actually pisses me off seeing them, its like they were all lobotomized

[quick jungle]

the rhineland was important to germany, its surprising they were able to keep it militarized after ww2

[violet veldt]

Very abelist btw

[safe wing]

Yeah we should do some good ol white terror

[uncut pollen]

Alright and now we will talk about other things @violet veldt @patent thistle @safe wing @jaunty grail

[violet veldt]

Just call me the r slur i know gou want to

[jaunty grail]

how lol

[patent thistle]

sure, ig,

[tulip thorn]

Thank you Flowi 🙏

[safe wing]

Sure

[violet veldt]

Thanks

[quick jungle]

if you dont choose democracy in hoi4, you a weirdo

[safe wing]

[uncut pollen]

Monarchism is good too

[tulip thorn]

Some democratic paths are really fun tho

Aka democratic germany, historical canada and thats about it

[patent thistle]

i shall only agree

[sharp sierra]

japan

[violet veldt]

I love trading❤️ let me watch as everyone eats eachother thats none of my business

[tulip thorn]

Monarchism is peak larp

[violet veldt]

Anti-soviet communist paths are so goated

[quick jungle]

we need to play hoi4 together bro

[safe wing]

Monarchism is fun but it’s purely fictional in the hoi4 countries it happens in

[quick jungle]

democracy paths are the best ones in the entire game anyways

[patent thistle]

the old japan democratic path legit had you casually get east asia for free

[quick jungle]

oh yeah, i remember doing that randomly cuz it was an option

[tulip thorn]

Most communist paths are pretty bad, but Communist china Japan and germany are pretty fun

[violet veldt]

I hate democracies

[safe wing]

Maybe except Italy if Mussolini failed in Ethopia

[violet veldt]

Stop guranteeing austria and hungary

[violet veldt]

True

[quick jungle]

i cast! democratic germany path!

[strong umbra]

which one?

[violet veldt]

Go home, ami ami go home!

[strong umbra]

for armor

[strong umbra]

which doctrine

[quick jungle]

mobile defense, works 100% of the time

[tulip thorn]

All 3 communist Soviet paths are alright aswell

[patent thistle]

this joke shall never get old

[strong umbra]

but im gonna offense

[quick jungle]

only soviet path i choose literally allows the opposition

[strong umbra]

not defend

[safe wing]

All subs lost with all hands

[tulip thorn]

I almost only ever play Tsarist or Stalin russia

[quick jungle]

its useful when enemy forces are attacking your troops that arent advancing

[tulip thorn]

its the only 2 paths I fully like

[safe wing]

Fascist Russia is boring

Like really really boring

[tulip thorn]

Historical soviet path doesnt require a civil war at all

[sharp sierra]

ive been picking streamlined deployment no idea if its the best or whatever i just like the default buff it has

[tulip thorn]

And monarchist russia is peak larp

[strong umbra]

is tand destryer force good if i just use sps

[patent thistle]

eh, russia fascist can work just dont ally with the germans

[violet veldt]

I love civil wars❤️

[safe wing]

True but the bonuses it gives compared to the tsar sucks

[tulip thorn]

I hate having to do them

[grave sonnet]

It would be fun if they made it so you form an anti german coalition against Hitler's fascism or smth

[violet veldt]

Real

[safe wing]

Tsar gives you more population

[patent thistle]

i always love to cheese them

[grave sonnet]

Not straight up join Germany

[quick jungle]

you NEED tanks against majors or moderates

[safe wing]

This because Rodzaevsky actually hated Germany in real life

[tulip thorn]

Slavic union my beloved

[grave sonnet]

• considering Hitler hated Slavs

[patent thistle]

third rome larp

[grave sonnet]

So it would make sence for Russia to oppose them

[craggy trail]

[safe wing]

Also have him join the greater East Asian co prosperity sphere because he was in Manchuria and was backed by the Japanese

[quick jungle]

equestria at war??

[tulip thorn]

yes

[grave sonnet]

☝🏼

[patent thistle]

and thats why the germans would always invade russia

[quick jungle]

when the hell did they have zeppelins

[tulip thorn]

Best mod

[craggy trail]

They started adding primitive air tech and naval tech a while ago

[safe wing]

A kingdom of Germany with no King only a Kaiser

[grave sonnet]

True

[pure crown]

Not even a king lol

[patent thistle]

germany and russia will always be rivals even if germany had a direct f***ing puppet in russia. if the guy was russian its always barbarossa time

[quick jungle]

is it weird if i play with NATO emblems?

[safe wing]

To me yes because it hurts my eyes

[patent thistle]

.

[quick jungle]

why do you have the entire USSR

[pure crown]

I won the war

[tulip thorn]

no it all just comes down to personal preference

[craggy trail]

So you can have airships, blimps and Zepplins as they do in the show and the movies

[pure crown]

Buddy

Why does rhe ussr still exist

[tulip thorn]

So peak

[pure crown]

nd why is the uk guaranteeing

[tulip thorn]

Those are the clowns I ordered

[patent thistle]

why do i hear boss music when i start this focus?

[pure crown]

Cures

[quick jungle]

genuinely boutta purge the nazi flith from our lands (democracy)

[pure crown]

I got about 538 ships u got like 300 will i win?

[patent thistle]

okay, this mod, is, generally well made, but, why, the, ever, loving, Heck IS THERE THIS-

[uncut pollen]

Filterbypass

Interesting

[patent thistle]

WHY WOULD I EVER WILLINGLY BECOME A PUPPET-

[quick jungle]

whats going on

[tulip thorn]

Current czech tree fascist path in a nutshell

[patent thistle]

there is czech fascism without becoming a puppet

[safe wing]

You should have formed Byzantium

[jaunty grail]

lmao how did i manage this

[patent thistle]

i do it next time this time i just wanted to try out how broken this tree is

[quick jungle]

imagine playing italy

[safe wing]

I hope they have cores in southern Spain

[jaunty grail]

its the tutorial im new

[patent thistle]

conclustion, yes.

[jaunty grail]

lol

[safe wing]

Italy has my favorite democratic path that is surprisingly op

[tulip thorn]

I know

[safe wing]

Democratic King

[quick jungle]

thats like hungaries democratic path

democratic king

[safe wing]

You can’t have civil wars and can still form Rome

[patent thistle]

yes that is yamamoto controling the greek navy

let that sink in

[safe wing]

Japan would never allow that

[patent thistle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/let-that-sink-in-O0tgj46AuW37Yfw5GC

[safe wing]

If Greece asked kindly

[quick jungle]

how the hell did i figure navy and landings out before air???

[safe wing]

They would say no

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-elon-musk-twitter-twitter-hq-gif-27011947

[strong umbra]

any tips?

[minor flint]

I played as Volga Germany

And I didn't even own Volga
I was in Sudan

[strong umbra]

im germany btw

[patent thistle]

thats the same way i asked for the akagi

[sharp sierra]

im diamond one

[safe wing]

LMAO

[patent thistle]

and, uh, random bullshit go

[safe wing]

Japan would give up their best carrier to a nation that could probably not even maintain it

This was made by a Greek nationalist

[patent thistle]

also these decisions are generally broken

[quick jungle]

its better to purge hitler from germany if you dont wanna go down your focus tree to remilitarize the rhineland

since you get it and also the option of democracy

[jaunty grail]

tf are all these lines

[patent thistle]

this is all i got from the decisions the focus "our old navy" gave me

sure i didnt get to have an industry and political power for 2 years but just, look, at this.

[safe wing]

like I said earlier how much would you bet a Greek Nationalist made the mod

[quick jungle]

i reached berlin in under 3 months, what is my army doing in their battles

[patent thistle]

yes/10

[safe wing]

winning

[quick jungle]

how is this possible

[steel zephyr]

invasion of britain soon

[quick jungle]

berlins liberated from the nazi filth now

[safe wing]

I just hope he made Byzantium have cores on Southern Spain

[patent thistle]

did i forget to meantion hecking 7 of these are under them?

[quick jungle]

YES YES YES YES YES YES

[quick jungle]

i can make a battleship faster

[patent thistle]

oh yeaa super heavy battleship elsewell, cause why not

[safe wing]

this is more unbalanced than vanilla

[patent thistle]

sure the design sucks but that doesnt make the situation any better

[quick jungle]

just hung the ex-nazis now that i won the civil war

[patent thistle]

i dont think speed is the main point here

[quick jungle]

speed is necessary for navy

it can make you win a battle with really good speed

[patent thistle]

too much heavy attack

[safe wing]

they were pre made ships though

[quick jungle]

how bad does one have to be to make a ship design to be this horrendous

[patent thistle]

they are pre-made, also let me remind you that this also gives me ALL the parts

meaning radar 4 in 1937-38

very fun

[quick jungle]

holy hell i just got member flooded for my european democracy faction

[patent thistle]

also, how many modifiers do you want
this modder: "YES."

[jaunty grail]

how do i like annex them

i got the capital

[pure crown]

Dam

The Brits aint home

[sharp sierra]

that red bar gotta go all the way down

[jaunty grail]

ah ty

[quick jungle]

fuh naw

and lithuanias already at war with the USSR

[patent thistle]

good luck

[quick jungle]

im gonna build massive armies before entering

nvm the ussr just attacked the entire alliance

guess ill build them from home

USSR getting their ass beat because of their idiocracy

[patent thistle]

these were what this decision was

mind you there is still one missing

[quick jungle]

leningrad is already under attack

[patent thistle]

let me remind you that you get this, OVER the other thing too

[jaunty grail]

why is my frame rate capped at 70

[quick jungle]

liberation of moscow

democratic germany is peak

[patent thistle]

time to get claims on the entirety of africa

[ripe slate]

Settings file

'however, its pretty irrelevant, since the game has pretty bad FPS, especially while running

[quick jungle]

one of the mods i played with caused massive lag and RAM use jumps, dear god whoever designed it doesnt know optimization

[jaunty grail]

ty

[jaunty grail]

yeah i noticed when i unpause i get lag spikes

i have a 7800x3d too

[ripe slate]

Its inevitable

I wonder if any CPU beats the 7800x3D significantly

[jaunty grail]

9800x3d

and 9850x3d

[noble bobcat]

oh god I LOVE Democracy so much 😭 🙏 what I would do without my liberty icon in game... I would go insane from nonstop staring at other ideology

[jaunty grail]

well

not significantly ig

[noble bobcat]

https://giphy.com/gifs/instagram-viral-nazoom-BKw04PbLlfOl2tzrwO

[quick jungle]

captured sevastopol, soviet troops recapture crimea but dont capture UNGUARDED SEVASTOPOL

please fix the stupid ass AI

[sharp sierra]

i wish they would fix the buggy front line spots

like greece and crimea

i hate managing that

[woven gate]

it is annoying

[winged field]

hoi 4 carrer mod - you are single divison and you start as Lieutenant 😻

oops

wrong reply

[heavy vigil]

need the best pc to run hoi4 ofc

[heavy vigil]

batallion

[jaunty grail]

what does the red skull mean

[winged field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/lowtiercat-ptsdcat

[ripe slate]

I picked my CPU based on HOI performance 😛

[winged field]

attrition

[jaunty grail]

ah

[winged field]

you eat your tank quicker

[jaunty grail]

i mean what else could you pick other than the x3d chips

[winged field]

or guns

[heavy vigil]

did you actually lol

[jaunty grail]

honestly idk what im doing im just drawing red arrows everywhere

[dusky burrow]

pov roosevelt is a hoi4 player

[quick jungle]

rq, someone send me the best tank template for early game germany tank tech

[dusky burrow]

which nation is this? ethiopia?

[patent thistle]

greece, ultimate greece rework mod

[quick jungle]

democracy prevails

[dusky burrow]

you should at least have 3 man turret + howitzer + 2 hmg turrets

on medium interwar chssis

[quick jungle]

i dont have the dlc to design tanks like that

[dusky burrow]

ah yes just ask for all of belgium

[ripe slate]

I got 13600k because I like overclocking and x3D cant be overclocked*
I compared with someone with a 7800x3D and I got ever so slightly better performance, a negligible/within error amount

[quick jungle]

and i meant division

[winged field]

template is in #ask-for-help-here pins

[patent thistle]

ah yes, not like i already have all of the turkish chromium

[dusky burrow]

imagine being venizelos in this timeline

[patent thistle]

the fact his illness is also healed does not make the timeline less wierd-

guy basically cant die now

[dusky burrow]

yeah that's what i was wonderinga bout

[quick jungle]

please give me an image for the best tank div template

[steel zephyr]

how to airdrop, i got paratroopers but when I try select an airbase to start with, it says "airbase needs atleast 50 transports" when i have 100 there

[quick jungle]

you need 50 more

[steel zephyr]

added even more, still the same

[dusky burrow]

are they doing logistics drops anywhere

[quick jungle]

bruh

[steel zephyr]

no

locked in

[quick jungle]

how have they not surrendered (dont ask about the losses, idk either)

[steel zephyr]

ok my fighter is trash what to change

[ivory hull]

look

in ask for help

in pinned

[quick jungle]

max engine

[hybrid star]

To gain superiority in air defense and naval defense, how much air attack should there be?

[quick jungle]

why did UK just go fascist

what da hell

[steel zephyr]

whats up

ah it says

bruh

[patent thistle]

litterally everyone agreed but italy

[quick jungle]

bro who are the hellas

[patent thistle]

democratic greater greece

[quick jungle]

imma go see if there is a killzone mod

[opal nymph]

So they updated R56 Germany alt hist, I wonder how much they did...

Oh my...

[dusky burrow]

add an mio

also probably get your range to 900 km or about

[dusky burrow]

time to beat up italy

[quick jungle]

why dont nuclear reactors generate energy?

when thats their entire point

[steel zephyr]

i am

[dusky burrow]

at this rate hellas > italy in terms of power

[quick jungle]

there needs to be a separate building for nuclear weapons procurement

[restive sable]

funny

[quick jungle]

ive done somthing like this twice as czechoslovakia

except against hitler

[dusky burrow]

green yugoslavia

[ivory hull]

kx?

[twin nebula]

two lies and a truth

[quick jungle]

what countries can i play as and form a christian based nation?

[twin nebula]

used to be able to do a papal thing as italy

[quick jungle]

other than mexico

[twin nebula]

dunno if you can anymore

[quick jungle]

there is mexico, but i am not playing that

[silk fern]

https://tenor.com/view/jon-jones-jon-jones-dance-jon-jones-trump-dance-gif-15464598648066416511

[silk fern]

vatican italy

[quick jungle]

i am not playing the hellhole slop of italy

[grand sluice]

And I thought that the Germany Rework tree was big enough 😭 😭 😭

Well, then again, it's constantly getting updated...

[strong umbra]

my semi-his game of germany hos gone pretty well so far? any tips semi-his as in i wont capitulate uk before barbarossa or at all

[simple wren]

Should I wait for hoi4 to go on sale to get it or get it right now

[strong umbra]

sale

[simple wren]

Ok

[vestal sequoia]

how do I remove embargoed economy as poland

[ivory hull]

why are you producing light tanks and basic airframes?

[twin nebula]

I always do only medium

[silk fern]

wait a few weeks for the steam spring sale

[twin nebula]

the blitz of 40000 medium tanks

[ivory hull]

mediums just are best in sp

[restive sable]

yes

[ivory hull]

you have to try the czechoslovak legion for transamur

[heavy vigil]

bad engine :(

bad torp :(

[restive sable]

it was the first path i did when the transamur update came 😭😭

fun as hell but a lengthy game

idk if i have a screenshot of it

[dusky burrow]

Yeah upgrade those to torp 2 and 2xengine3 as soon as possible

[ivory hull]

yea for me it also took till like 44

[twin nebula]

what should I do to make my tank better?

[restive sable]

45 for me

[dusky burrow]

also you don't need all the range modules, so actually you can just do 2engine2 for early production runs

[heavy vigil]

2x e3 is really easy to get

[restive sable]

once i took down russia though it got really easy

[heavy vigil]

i mean it depends on if its mp or sp and whats played but yk

[dusky burrow]

yeah especially in 1939, but not necessarily if you want to do it earlier

[ivory hull]

i stopped in 44 cause i got russia and didnt want to fight a mega reichspakt into late game kx

[heavy vigil]

i get it in the big 36

if playing sheeps or something

[dusky burrow]

3 man turret, howitzer, and 2 hmgs. also make it into an artillery piece

[dusky burrow]

how

[snow rain]

50 transports per paras on same order
this order is for 8 paras
you need 50x8 = 400 transports
remove 2 paras from the order and it'll launch with 300 transports

[restive sable]

the second weltkrieg was still happening somehow here and france was starting to be pushed back once i wiped russia

[heavy vigil]

focus

[dusky burrow]

huh

[ivory hull]

france just dissolved their military for me and germany rushed them down

[heavy vigil]

its not even like late 36

[dusky burrow]

which is why you make paradrop orders one unit at a time

[heavy vigil]

you can get it 70 days into the game

[dusky burrow]

i thought engine 3 is like 1000 days of research time

in 1936 that is

[heavy vigil]

prob the fastest tech rush

could be wrong

[heavy vigil]

well yeah if you want 1x or 3x e3

or 4x or 6x ig

[restive sable]

on my end once russia died germany just left the east near completely open

[heavy vigil]

but 2x e3 is easy

[restive sable]

once i took down ukraine and belarus the germans just started to fold

[dusky burrow]

you're talking new zealand?

[twin nebula]

how do I turn it into an artillery piece?

[dusky burrow]

the dropdown menu

[ivory hull]

i was literally stuck in ukraine in 44 cause i had like 120ish divs

[twin nebula]

Medium SP Artillery?

[dusky burrow]

yeah

[restive sable]

i just sorta starved the russians out in siberia

encircled like a good chunk of their army bit by bit

[twin nebula]

what template should I use?

[ivory hull]

i was too slow to get any good encirclements sadly

[twin nebula]

like the division template

[restive sable]

i tried to go motorized and a slight bit of cav

[heavy vigil]

yaay

[restive sable]

and inf

[heavy vigil]

wahooo

as us its gonna take longer

idk how long

australia also gets it

like

[ivory hull]

i had a full inf build with like some mountaineers so i was super slow

[heavy vigil]

1937

[restive sable]

after i think the third big encirclement they just didnt have the troops to defend the east

[vocal lava]

just started a vanilla HISTORICAL ironman game. Does this look normal?

[restive sable]

since they also were at war with germany

[heavy vigil]

so even then its easy

[restive sable]

by this point

[dusky burrow]

what greek path are you going down

[heavy vigil]

if you go ahist the ai also goes ahist

[dusky burrow]

greece shouldn't affect much though

[vocal lava]

monarch

but anyways

[dusky burrow]

i've seen it a lot with germany

[vocal lava]

its the strangest thing I have ever seen in a hist game

[heavy vigil]

ita

[dusky burrow]

yeah that's basically slightly flavored historical, so idk what's happening

[vocal lava]

and its mid 1936

nevermind, I think I just accidentally clicked on ahistorical

cause the uk just went fascist

my bad

[simple wren]

Ok

[steel zephyr]

💀 what are they doing

1M to finland just for me to finish them in a month

[icy lion]

Sooo closer

I have much to learn

[icy lion]

87 days in the game 💀

[silk fern]

Not that bad for a hoi4 player

[steel zephyr]

500 hours so far

[jaunty grail]

bruh i beat ethiopia in a new game and white peaced on accident

[jaunty grail]

i assume youre talking about solely hoi4 because the 7800x3d and 13400k are very different

who says the 7800x3d cant be overclocked?

it definitely can

i dont do it because i dont need to but my temps sit in the 50s during intense gaming

so i could

its 40 rn in hoi4

[jaunty grail]

but one thing is that cpu utilisation matters do

idk how much it should be late game because im new to the game

but rn im on 10 percent utilisation

[restive sable]

gulp

[still hazel]

Based?

[ripe slate]

the game primarily runs on one core so it wont be high if it factors into account all cores

[soft yacht]

anti bolshevik accord, a primarily communist faction

[errant remnant]

SPAM cav

[patent thistle]

mod?

[toxic cypress]

modded but his is just me making a faction named the enclave

[jaunty grail]

I see

[fair horizon]

Giving the women and children a chance to do their part :)

[jaunty grail]

chrome taking the piss

[deft lava]

who can help me in dm

[soft yacht]

playing this game in ironman feels like a fpcking chore

[steel zephyr]

my first ever paradrop (500 hours)

or really first successful, this game i had a few unsuccessful because i was tryna drop in southern england

[woven gate]

i usually land in dove

r

[steel zephyr]

brought in the army

[woven gate]

you should try landing earlier ngl

[steel zephyr]

i did

and failed

brits lost so much in so many failed invasions of europe, there isnt much here

[woven gate]

i mean before the US joins

[oak mantle]

Invade italy twin

[steel zephyr]

US isn't even the faction

we have a seperate war with the americans

because russia invaded finland which was in the american faciton

[woven gate]

oh you should be good

[steel zephyr]

this isnt an axis situation

[vivid juniper]

Is it just me or has anyone else never seen a AI controlled democratic Germany?

[fair horizon]

Wym?

[heavy vigil]

hii vendrip

[fair horizon]

Hi casey

[storm escarp]

I will twin

[fair horizon]

Ngl after playing belgium the game feels easy mode because i had a plane mio

[oak mantle]

Belgium is top 3 minors OAT

You get helllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa army buffs

[fair horizon]

Not even that

Play australia as a commie

No plane mio sucks

[oak mantle]

I bet

On belgium you get hella heavy td buffs for hard attack which isnt relevant for sp but

In MP its great

I think belgium is like the best country for heavy tds in terms of hard attack

[fair horizon]

I mean you can win the air war so easy with a mio though

free stats

[oak mantle]

You could prolly beat the AI without an air mio

[fair horizon]

Australia doesnt get a plane mio if you're not in the democratic path

[oak mantle]

Man i love belgium

Look at their army focus treew

Its so tuff

[fair horizon]

Unneeded

[oak mantle]

The only downside is that the congo stole your good chief of army

[candid mason]

Help

This happens when I try to launch

[oak mantle]

Vendrip have you done the china navy build yet

[steel zephyr]

iran and siam left to capitulate and thats the allies done

[fair horizon]

Oh no i hate playing anything in that region ngl

I hate fighting anything in that region

But navy got even easier when you abuse screening efficiency with torpedo destroyers anyways so w/e

[oak mantle]

Idk man if you ask me he'd make a pretty sick admiral

[fair horizon]

Needs to mew and jawmaxx

[oak mantle]

Holy frame mog

[soft yacht]

how do i get better at the game bro i am shit without console commands

[fair horizon]

Stop using console commands and learn

[soft yacht]

i f-cking terrible at managing fuel and building divisions

[oak mantle]

Literally

[soft yacht]

its too addicting bro its like salvia

[soft yacht]

or making good divisions i mean

[oak mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hill-i-guess-bro-bro-i-guess-ok-man-gif-6278747235421617446

[soft yacht]

be my therapist bro

help

[oak mantle]

The way i learned was through looking at other peoples divisions and looking at what other people were tryna get

[soft yacht]

alright

[oak mantle]

And learning what battalliopn is best for which stat

Tank = Good but expensive

[soft yacht]

im not terrible at the game but im mid

i struggle with minor nations

unless its sweden

same with soviets i played them and i sucked

i lost like 3 million men against monarchist germany

[oak mantle]

Infantry = Good for defending but if u wanna push u better hope u have hella manpower and are picking large unit tactics for your doctrine

[soft yacht]

only paradox games im good at is stellaris and ck3 and eu4

[soft yacht]

yeah

usually i dont make tanks unless im like germany

and just use infantry with arti

[oak mantle]

Infantry for pushing is only good to try and make the enemy lose equal or more losses than you when pushing

So you wanna make the div have as much hp as you can get into it

[soft yacht]

is this a good division

[oak mantle]

No

[soft yacht]

o

i used that a few games ago

it worked well enough but i only had like 12

[woven gate]

imma play a hoi4 mp game and be an arms dealer

[oak mantle]

Inf for pushing doesnt need arty

[woven gate]

just build nothing but mils

[fair horizon]

Not even at all

[soft yacht]

is the org too low

[oak mantle]

Kinda

[fair horizon]

It has like a hundred artillery

[soft yacht]

yea

[fair horizon]

Anything over 2 is worthless

2 is borderline useless

[oak mantle]

The reason line arty sucks is cause you can just make tanks at that point for a similar price with better stats

[soft yacht]

i played ironman as bulgaria like 5 mins ago and i had a civil war and right after romania molested me with like 30 divisions

[fair horizon]

You're making an infantry division like way more expensive than it needs to be

[soft yacht]

whats a good division

[heavy vigil]

also inf stats are pretty good once you have gun 2

[heavy vigil]

irrelevant stat for attacking

[soft yacht]

alright

[heavy vigil]

the game even has a free org button on every general

2 of them even

[soft yacht]

usually for defense just use engineer and 18 stack infantry right

or 18 width

[oak mantle]

I use 16 width

[soft yacht]

hm ok

[fair horizon]

Engineer worthless tbh

[oak mantle]

And fill the support companies with more than just engineers

[heavy vigil]

idc what you use for defense it only matters as minor nations

[oak mantle]

WHAT

[fair horizon]

Too much support equipment for shovels

[soft yacht]

also when i make units like that is that why i get so much attrition

[soft yacht]

Alright

[oak mantle]

I would spend all the IC in the world for that sweet sweet defense bonus vendrip

[heavy vigil]

no youre overloading supply

[soft yacht]

i need to get nsb

i still dont have nsb

[oak mantle]

You can make support equipment from the start of the game and ur good

[fair horizon]

Ive used it for naval invasions when i go mountaineer branch first but otherwise its useless imo

[deep oasis]

why cant i backdate my game

[heavy vigil]

https://youtu.be/1IIjk4bAh68

[oak mantle]

5 mils from the start as soviet is more than enough

[soft yacht]

Wdym?

[soft yacht]

oh yea i saw that i need to rewatch

gonna watch it 40 times until i lodge it into my slimy brain

[heavy vigil]

good

[deep oasis]

im tryna go to a old game i had 💔💔

[oak mantle]

You should be able to

[soft yacht]

steam sucks

sometimes

[deep oasis]

do i js have to wai or sum

[soft yacht]

yea its prolly bugged

everythings been bugged recently

[oak mantle]

Excuse me?

[soft yacht]

especially achievements

[soft yacht]

only sometimes

[deep oasis]

alr ty

[oak mantle]

Dont disrespect king gabe newell like that

[oak mantle]

You can

[deep oasis]

just these times

[soft yacht]

tsar gabe newell**

[deep oasis]

its an older version

[oak mantle]

go to the gear icon on hoi4

click properties

[deep oasis]

i did

[oak mantle]

go to game versions and betas

they changed the way of changing game version

[deep oasis]

ohhh i see ty

[oak mantle]

scroll down till u see the version u want

[deep oasis]

yes yes js cuz they added game versions ty

[soft yacht]

can anyone give me a fun nation to play (i have bfb, mtg, DoD, la resistance, bba)

and then the dlcs paradox made free

[soft yacht]

with a focus tree

[oak mantle]

u dont have gotterdamerung?

[soft yacht]

nope

[oak mantle]

u should get it if ur able to

its a good dlc

[soft yacht]

i was in my europa universalis phase when it released

Hm alright

[steel zephyr]

hungary

[fair horizon]

Ireland too strong, need the whole army to kill them

[wide nova]

anyone here played hoi4 age of imperialism????????????

[soft yacht]

UP THE RA!!

[toxic cypress]

follow that dlc

https://tenor.com/view/gymskin-chune-tune-follow-that-tune-follow-that-chune-gif-2004552023177760113

[oak mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/aura-pulse-gymskin-gif-12450206028608686120

[steel zephyr]

larp

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/gymskin-aura-pulse-gymskin-gif-5436904159843909693

[steel zephyr]

im cryin bruh

got to get all the british colonies just to cap he allies

[icy lion]

Is this supposed to happen

[drowsy bronze]

can someone help me

[steel zephyr]

what a chud reinforce memer

[rapid furnace]

are there any canada reworks

[steel zephyr]

nice, allies fell

[tulip thorn]

Just look up Canada or Canada rework on the workshop

[fair horizon]

Mods 😡

[steel zephyr]

will lux win

[icy lion]

Us is stealing all my war participation 😭

They didnt even fight yet

[rustic basalt]

hi guys did road to 56 recieved an update

[supple summit]

yo lads

anyone know why everytime a hotjoin or a rehost happens it always desyncs?

[fair horizon]

Blow up enemy navy

[rapid furnace]

gg

[dire saffron]

I am so bad in this game

646 hours and i still have no idea what I am doing

[twin nebula]

yemeni unifcation of arabia

[finite plume]

So close to finishing these dang US provinces 🙏

Just need like 3 more strategic regions

[dawn mango]

isnt he an polish impostor

or can you actually get him

[silk fern]

youll start to figure it out after 2000

[iron iron]

Do I got enough puppets?

[dawn mango]

"hellenic raj"😭

[iron iron]

👍

[twin nebula]

we got the nazi pope before gta vi

[iron iron]

DO I GOT WNOUGH PUPPETS

[stone onyx]

you can take a screenshot by pressing the print screen button on your keyboard and pasting it

or win shift s

[steel zephyr]

capped britain, france and soon america

before I intervened russia was about to lose canada

[fair horizon]

Ill never forgive paradox for ruining Iowa

[quick jungle]

fix your unoptimized slop of a game paradox

this shit is abysmal

[worn hollow]

i was the alp confed

[iron iron]

brothers pc

his discord is on his account

[quick jungle]

These devs, being the insolent little greedy idiots they are refused to optimize their game

I lost all progress to a game because of their greedy idiocy

Overpriced DLC, overpriced base game, stupid buggy mechanics that require dlc to fix

Freezing other games beyond playing

Genuinely hope these idiots get smited from having a company

[violet quartz]

hmmm yes splendid splendid

[quick jungle]

I hope the devs for Hoi4 get fired from their jobs

They don’t need it if they can’t even make their game playable

[steel zephyr]

blame ai for terrible borders

russia just couldnt let go of a single mexican state so thats where the entire US has relocated to

[quick jungle]

I hope these paradox devs get to see just how badly optimized their slop game is

[fair horizon]

Who took oregon and washington?

[steel zephyr]

a different america

[quick jungle]

I lost over 3 hours of progress for a no save game for their hardest unlockable in game because of me misclicking and launching slop of iron 4

Took my ram in a second and made me almost break my damn computer

I hope these devs genuinely suffer for their idiocy

[split bane]

Bro just uninstall the game if you hate it that much

[quick jungle]

I just did, and the game is genuine slop atp

If I have to lose all of my progress over a MISCLICK, the developers of the game do not deserve a job

Since they can’t optimize it properly

3+ hours lost

Greedy company refuses to optimize their damn game

[fair horizon]

Bro how old is your computer?

Even my 10 year old rig doesnt have those issues and it 4 core 4 thread

[quick jungle]

It ain’t that old, the issue is I only have 8GB of ram because the price for it is insane