hoi4-general

[white apex]

Ahh okay so the effects will basically change

[ripe slate]

Exactly

Do the first focus and the second will change to removing]

[white apex]

Well hopefully I can do it before Norway is annexed

[white apex]

Also if I demand annexation will they accept

[zenith imp]

how do you become a spy master

[white apex]

Or will I get war goals

[ripe slate]

Get a few upgrades out, then you can claim it

[zenith imp]

im playing as poland

[zenith imp]

how many

[ripe slate]

I think 3 of different types

[tulip flare]

You need 3 angency upgrades and then in your faction

[zenith imp]

oh

[white apex]

Hey will I annext them or gain war goals against them

If I demand annexation

[ripe slate]

If they accept you annex, if they deny you get wargoal

idk the exact chances

[white apex]

Alr

[ripe slate]

I assume 60/40 in favor of annexation or smth

[white apex]

Well it doesn’t say anything abt war goals

[ripe slate]

Denial effects arent always shown\

[white apex]

K

[zenith imp]

i've upgraded 3 sections but i still cant get the spy master thing

[safe wing]

Kiev and Novgorod aren't looking good rn

Because Mongols

[terse skiff]

if you rush population in kiev, you can get to cannon towers which will auto defeat mongols and timurids

[safe wing]

Right now I’m retaking Anatolia and the Venetian islands of Rhodes and Crete

And I’m holding Hungary in the Balkans

[supple mango]

holy shit

does road to 56 give poland super powers or sum?

i cant break thru

[ripe slate]

not really

[grave sonnet]

Road to 56 gotta be the worst mod ever ngl

[ripe slate]

Best*

🔫

[supple mango]

the polish are on all the drugs posible

[ripe slate]

I dont think we change Poland much at all

[supple mango]

and have

artileru

[ripe slate]

unless you lack No Step Back, then we have an entirely new tree

[supple mango]

div

[ripe slate]

I usually beat Poland with my starting army as Germany

[toxic cypress]

using vanilla templates might kill me

i have an allergy to ai bullshit

[steel zephyr]

oh they didn't add special swedish names for leningrad, tallin and tartu 😢

[supple mango]

howww

they pushed me

they took land i owned

im starting again

[past stone]

anybody willing to give my bro hoi4

[heavy rover]

its not that bad

just the tank templates

[toxic cypress]

your one of them

i can smell it on you

[heavy rover]

you mostly need to change templates as japan or italy

[toxic cypress]

erm actually

u need to change them all

they all suck

[heavy rover]

not in singleplayer

[heavy rover]

son going to make meta build on sp 🙏🙏🙏🙏😭

[toxic cypress]

WHERE IS YOUR FLAME TANK RECRUIT

[heavy rover]

on support son

[timber laurel]

playing azerbijain is so cool

[toxic cypress]

georgia better

(more cores plus georgian flag is fire)

[timber laurel]

its 1940, i united the cauccuses and have 50 factories and i helped the USSR beaat finlandd

[timber laurel]

no like

soviet socialist republic of azerbijain

[toxic cypress]

ye

georgia has more cores

[timber laurel]

i cored all of this though

isnt that a lot

[toxic cypress]

georgia cores that plus

[timber laurel]

ill try georgia next then

[toxic cypress]

nah

try ukraine

https://tenor.com/view/volodymyr-zelenskyy-zelensky-володимир-зеленський-ukraine-gif-25721682

(it has most cores of any releasable)

[timber laurel]

ye but it has no custom focus tree

[toxic cypress]

azerbaijan doesnt even

and if ur mod has a azerbaijan tree prolly has a ukraine one

[timber laurel]

how do u get the USSR to release ukraine

it only releases belarus and the caucusses for me

[toxic cypress]

u gotta do it manually i think

also erm

u could

just do `release ukr

`tag ukr

[soft yacht]

who do u guys think will win

my moneys on church of rocky

[grave sonnet]

Church of Rocky > Church of Rocky

[soft yacht]

thats what im sayin

[timber laurel]

how do i get a lot of mp

[grave sonnet]

Based man right here

[grave sonnet]

Up Ur conscription law

Or

Get national spirits

That boost Ur man power

& cores can also help

[ripe slate]

I usually micro very aggressively and completely abandon Prussia

[timber laurel]

im on limited

do i go extensive?

[grave sonnet]

Yeah

[timber laurel]

are you a dev for road to 56?

[grave sonnet]

The -10 training isn't that bad

[ripe slate]

Yes

Lead dev, used to be in my name but Im matching @uncut pollen

[timber laurel]

oh ok

[uncut pollen]

king marijn would sound better

[ripe slate]

Smh

[uncut pollen]

😒

[toxic cypress]

u still work in r56?

[ripe slate]

Yeee

[toxic cypress]

i thought u moved onto dlc work

or are u on haitus

[ripe slate]

Toolpack, Road, Peace for Our Time DLC, No Undeletable units

[toxic cypress]

honestly undeletable units pmo

[uncut pollen]

King marijn211 r56 dev

[toxic cypress]

i just put em into my coastal garrison slop group

[ripe slate]

Theres a button in toolpack too to unlock the vanilla ones

[toxic cypress]

i dont use toolpack

i also dont play the game

but thats beside the point

[ripe slate]

Why still here?

[toxic cypress]

so i can argue with people about the game i dont play

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[ripe slate]

Fair

[heavy vigil]

back to the off topic mines you go

[toxic cypress]

nah

if you say such heretical words to me again im unfriending you

[heavy vigil]

back to the off topic mines you go

[ripe slate]

Casey is now the same moderator tier as me so I cant ban him to spread HOI IV misinformation /s

[toxic cypress]

alright bro im blockin you next

[heavy vigil]

i also spread misinformation its ok

but its just because im dumb

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-truth-nuke-walter-white-true-breaking-bad-truth-nuke-breaking-bad-true-gif-2370094217877194192

[ripe slate]

I just cant be bothered to keep up with meta too closely, I only play SP after all

[sudden thistle]

Double truth nuke

[toxic cypress]

this guy gets it

he gets extra points

[heavy vigil]

you have to optimally bully the IA

[toxic cypress]

should i go to macdonalds in 4h

[heavy rover]

artem kotenko

[toxic cypress]

for the chance they have the 30th aniversary pokemon cards

if i get a holo charizard with a macdonald stamp

im gonna do a backflip

[toxic cypress]

whats that

[heavy rover]

😭😭

[timber laurel]

my army is small but strong

only 60 divisions but they hit hard

[patent thistle]

thanks norway

sure does solve a lot of my issues

i am only here to free the people of capitalism

and maybe take a turkish battlecruiser

[fervent minnow]

aw

[patent thistle]

prepare to have it be in horrible condition after a few years

[fervent minnow]

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[patent thistle]

its the soviet navy tf did you expect

[fervent minnow]

true

[patent thistle]

poor royal sovereign

[fervent minnow]

what

[patent thistle]

hms royal sovereign, a british battleship which was loaned to the soviets during ww2

[fervent minnow]

oh

alr

[patent thistle]

she was eventually returned in lets just say, "horrendous" condition

[timber laurel]

i've been carrying the soviets

i beat the southern front by myself

[twilit sky]

guys wwho plays HOI4?

[dusky burrow]

capital in zaolzie

lmao

[patent thistle]

she had been pretty much under the first british ships to be scapped

[timber laurel]

?

wym

[patent thistle]

je meant slovakia

[timber laurel]

oh

ok

yay

we beat the axis

[azure palm]

ITALY

WHAT ARE YOU DOING

[dusky burrow]

wrong server, no one plays hoi4 here

[dusky burrow]

yeah sicily is easy to take

[uncut pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/omerrv-snip-snipping-supertool-gif-19434006

[timber laurel]

peacedeal

[fervent minnow]

azerbaijanreich?

[patent thistle]

early soviet strat is real

[unique cliff]

why's there a 3 way japanese civil war .-.

[sharp sierra]

the strat is invade norway then uk in 1937

[timber laurel]

yes

[patent thistle]

the old soviet strat*

[fervent minnow]

did you see the new strat bomber buffs

holy shit bro

not talking about soviets the game as a whole

[azure palm]

ITALY

[patent thistle]

i said the old soviet strat

not this

[sharp sierra]

idk what ure talking about

[azure palm]

My entire army is currently just fixing italian mistakes...

this is painfull...

[patent thistle]

one of the older soviet strats is to invade turkey and romania early shortening the front by a margine

[molten forge]

so i may or may not have gotten rid of italy in 38

[sharp sierra]

yea thats the basic one everyone knows

[molten forge]

smartest italy of the year

[sharp sierra]

did u do the zadar port encirclement trick

why would u puppet them also

[molten forge]

the french took them while i defended

and it auto became puppet

[sharp sierra]

oh rgiht i frogot the civil war thing

[patent thistle]

because unless you are able to speedrun italian capitulation you arent able to get it

[sharp sierra]

well you have to avoid victory points

if you want to do that

[patent thistle]

i often just speedrun italy so fast that it just caps

[grave sonnet]

Maršal Tito would be proud

[molten forge]

ngl AI cant see garuantees right?

[grave sonnet]

The AI doesn't usually care abt guarantees

[molten forge]

makes sense

considering the french romanian soviets and chezch were garuantiing me

[timber laurel]

greater azerbijain can finally be declared

[grave sonnet]

That's a lot of green

[grave sonnet]

Geez 😭

[timber laurel]

the fifth international is official

[molten forge]

its 38

april

[grave sonnet]

Jst saw Germany

Why did they skip austria

The border looks cancerous

[molten forge]

its empire

[timber laurel]

azerbijain strong

rahhh

[molten forge]

i was preparing to militarise and take it anyway @grave sonnet

[grave sonnet]

What's even the lore of Azerbaijan

The only thing ik bout it

Is that Stalin created it because he wanted to piss of Armenia and Iran

[molten forge]

does azerbaijan have focus tree?

[grave sonnet]

Ah

[grave sonnet]

No

[timber laurel]

the mod i have gives it a focus tree

[grave sonnet]

In vannila

It doesn't

[molten forge]

ngl id play afgan if i had dlc

[timber laurel]

idk but it was a very fun and challenging nation to play

[grave sonnet]

Definitely looks like it

[timber laurel]

i started off as the azerbijain SSR

[molten forge]

tbf this yugo run is fun

[timber laurel]

then i broke off the soviets but stayed in cominterm

[grave sonnet]

Jugoslavija is fun

I remember doing the Hugeoslavia Achievement

At like 3am

Lowk they missed hard with Yugo

They could have added a lot of things

For Fascist Croatia

[molten forge]

gonna liberate the hungarians

and by liberate i just mean annex

[grave sonnet]

Bringing Titoism into Hungary

[molten forge]

only 36 factories

should i try give italy convoys and annex it all

also wha

the german empire can demand sudetenland?

[grave sonnet]

If u want 2

[grave sonnet]

Czechoslovakia can give it 2 Germany

[molten forge]

or maybe its the chezh protectorate

[grave sonnet]

Deliver Sudetenland

And yeah they just become a German puppet

[mint adder]

Havent been playing hoi4 in ages and im just learning the nee navy stuff

Does strike force now consume fuel too?

[grave sonnet]

I never knew navy

[mint adder]

Bruh

[grave sonnet]

No clue

[mint adder]

Is ncns that bad anyway

[grave sonnet]

I mean

I like playing china

So I like the DLC

But others who don't like China and the navy stuff probably wont like it

[mint adder]

And what about coal

I heard it’s annoying

[grave sonnet]

Coal is coal

Just another resource

[grave sonnet]

I have no problem with it

[mint adder]

I’ll see it myself then

[grave sonnet]

But yeah depends on how much factories u have

And what economy u own

[azure palm]

Germany stopped pushing the USSR, I got invaded by the soviets, the brits are invading syria, lebanon and egypt by water, the italians are failing in lybia, southern italy and northern italy, the japanese are failing against china and the USA has been in the war for a while. Im gonna leave this campaign now.

[molten forge]

so the brits attackefd me

[tough thorn]

Bruh cuh

Rome

Didnt fall

In the 400's

It fell in 1917

[obsidian sigil]

Coal is irrelevant now isnt it

[heavy rover]

kinda

[obsidian sigil]

I only ever need to buy like 32 max

If ever

[heavy rover]

most nations have coal tho

just if u play italy 💀

[patent thistle]

HELL YEAH

[tulip thorn]

The american populations of alaska going to be real confused

[quiet vessel]

i always promise to keep my ussr game historical until i do this🙏

[patent thistle]

never

[patent thistle]

fun fact i actually once got them to accept the demands

finland speedrun

[snow finch]

i've always had the desire to make like, bunchs of saves to each major so i wouldn't need to always select the tech, the army, production and etc everytime, but since i like to play non-historical i feared that doing this would make the countries always go for the same path always, but idk, can i do this without the need to worry?

[ripe slate]

Yeh youre right, thats the downside of doing that

Might be a cool idea for a mod

[young lake]

Insane Russian losses

[ripe slate]

What sort of nation is called KDGvB

[verbal mural]

hope i can hold the germans

[young lake]

Belgian puppet

[ripe slate]

Ig I still prefer that over "German Belgium"

I hate those puppet names in vanilla xD

[young lake]

Its not vanilla

Great war redux

[ripe slate]

mhm

[young lake]

Non historical PAIN

[ripe slate]

🫂

[young lake]

I had a brilliant military strategy tho

[ripe slate]

run away?

[young lake]

I dont even look at the Russian front, whilst I focus on the French

[patent thistle]

soviet naval build goes brr

[young lake]

And look back and see Breslau is captureed

[red sun]

Btw which channel i have to use if i have any question to staff??

[young lake]

French surrender saved my life

[azure palm]

I hate Italy. I hate Britain. The Italians never defend their shores or anything in general, and the Brits always do naval invasions

[molten forge]

i have to beat the brits to end my war

[patent thistle]

just beat britain early

easy

[azure palm]

problematic if you play Turkey

as germany? Easy

but as turkey? How would I do that? With me airforce? Navy? Army?

[azure palm]

RIP

as who?

[molten forge]

sfr yugo

am very broke for 43, 88 factories

[molten forge]

am prepping the planes for paratroopers

[patent thistle]

paratroopers

[molten forge]

btw how many enough for britain

[heavy vigil]

helloo

[azure palm]

without air superiority?

[grave sonnet]

Hello

[patent thistle]

it depends on your strat, do you do combat paratroopers or spam go BRR?

[molten forge]

its just the production taking a while yk

[patent thistle]

get just about 100-200 good fighters and your good

[azure palm]

the problem is, I cant do that without going into insane debt of rifles

or support equipment

also I dont have paratroopers researched

nor good planes

[azure palm]

I prefer BRRRRR paratroopers

[patent thistle]

i prefer combat paratroopers due to the chance being high of the UK guarding every single dam port

if we go for prefers more i prefer marines and rushing the beaches

[azure palm]

yeah but you often dont have the special forces capacity

[azure palm]

yes, you need a navy for that

I have 2 dockyards

and like 10 ships

[patent thistle]

i litterally defeated the british navy with pre-dreadnoughts, whats your excuse?

[azure palm]

How many?

[molten forge]

13 paratroopers

[patent thistle]

3 pre-dreadnoughts not even concentrated

[azure palm]

how

[patent thistle]

yes.

[azure palm]

also I dont control gibralta or suez

so my ships cant get out of the mediteranian

[patent thistle]

take gibraltar ez

[molten forge]

I only make one a day lol

[azure palm]

mh, mh, yes the problem is the brits are always guarding it with multiple marine divisions

and at some point mechanized ones

I tried.

[patent thistle]

USA I LITTERALLY STOLE ALASKA OF YOU HOW DO YOU NOT HATE ME-

[young lake]

The British are Joining the war a BIT late

Its only 1916 and France already capped

And im marching into moscow 😭

[patent thistle]

.

[violet veldt]

??

Why now

Even karl marx supported the union when the confederates were banging on their door

Is germany capitulated

[azure palm]

wait, why dont they hate you

[azure palm]

they should have a -60 opinion

weird

[patent thistle]

i am just guessing the opinion modifier just broke or smth 🤷‍♂️

[violet veldt]

Question

Is germany capitulated

[clear dagger]

so silly how i can just send volunteers to germany

[violet veldt]

Lore accurate soviet union

[patent thistle]

the soviet navy is real

[azure palm]

for who is the question and about what is it?

like which game

[violet veldt]

The anti capitalist one

[azure palm]

ahh, the one from the oberkommando des heeres knax

[patent thistle]

oh yeah btw the heavy ships are refit

[patent thistle]

bud ww2 just barely started man

[violet veldt]

Marx wouldnt approve

[patent thistle]

stealing hungary off germany

[violet veldt]

Marx would approve

[molten forge]

the brits are so annoying

[violet veldt]

Fight germany

[molten forge]

like for the love of god

[violet veldt]

Focus on the fascists🙏

[molten forge]

they reamormed right as paratroopers were ready

[patent thistle]

might just grab some free core

[red sun]

What does modded meanss??

[lethal ether]

tannu what?

[patent thistle]

this random ass country which now no longer exists

[lethal ether]

you didnt get the refference 😔

[patent thistle]

??

[sudden grotto]

bro didnt get teh reference lol

[patent thistle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/achievementhunter-scared-confused-37QUZJhmcdhc6yVUKV

[sudden grotto]

basically

the other non soviet countries when they get the event of tuva being annexed, the event click button says "Tannu what?"

[young lake]

We're home by A CHRISTMAS atleast 🥹 ✌️

[sudden grotto]

dont let a french painter take charge.

[young lake]

Fym French painter 😭

[sudden grotto]

monet fr fr

dont let monet get on that presidency election

he be painting the world map after tjat

[patent thistle]

i legit never got the event as a non soviet nation because i speedrun them till around 1941-45 depending on the nation so dont question why i didnt get it

[sudden grotto]

welp

[young lake]

Who needs ELECTIONS

[sudden grotto]

bro about to get fragmented into 49829462395 german little city states

[young lake]

xd

[young lake]

Only had to recruit 6M people because of the INSANE amount of divs Hungary can just show up with 😭

[sudden grotto]

120M core pop. beautiful

[young lake]

I lwk thought it was over at the start of the war ;-;

[patent thistle]

gotta admit hungary is being a resiliant bastard-

[young lake]

So... I didn't have a claim and Paris. And the Frankfurt peace conference hasn't happened yet

[patent thistle]

they have legit hold better then finland

but they still eventually lost

hould have actually given romania that border state

[young lake]

Hungarian Endsieg

[young lake]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[heavy vigil]

how have you been sir ?

[grave sonnet]

It's been pretty good so far I'll say

[patent thistle]

i might have created a soviet jugernaught

[grave sonnet]

Time will tell if it will get worse or better

Hbu

[patent thistle]

which also has alaska*

[patent thistle]

hey hungary got it good with turkey i used a saw and a pen

[grave sonnet]

Why didn't you Invade the Balkans more

[young lake]

"A little bit of this and a Little bit of that"

[patent thistle]

bulgaria is next

[grave sonnet]

Nice nice

[patent thistle]

yugo and bulgaria then ig

[heavy vigil]

been better

[patent thistle]

greece shall be spared cause i know they will join the allies soon cause italy

how has hungary held better then these 2 goobers

[grave sonnet]

Ah yes sometimes it is like that

Hope it goes for the better

[ember vine]

What are these states lol

[young lake]

Mf

[patent thistle]

yugo is puppeted i just didnt end the peacedeal yet

i am thinking about giving bulgaria turkish thrace

[proven wing]

what year is this?

[patent thistle]

july 1940

[proven wing]

oh nice

I played ussr today and I just rushed germany with tanks soon enough that they didnt even conquer france

[patent thistle]

funny how this is basically now my only true frontline

cause if germany declears against tito i couldnt care less cause they dont border me

[sly venture]

Playing as Hungary is impossible bro

[proven wing]

I always get trouble when invading USSR as Germans like I can do everything but this, I should just watchs a tutorial ig

[grave sonnet]

Greater Communist Bulgaria sounds interesting

[patent thistle]

these shall be used against germany

[proven wing]

I just used T-34 to crush them

[patent thistle]

not like thrace quite litterally is the turkish east prussia rn

[proven wing]

No infantry just t-34

[grave sonnet]

Ahh

[patent thistle]

cause the istanbul corridor

[grave sonnet]

Ic

[proven wing]

Estonia has a really nice focus

you are a puppet but you get much territory

Like baltics belarus some parts of poland and even scandinavia

All with soviet help

I bought no step back and gotterdamerung on tuesday

it didnt change that much but still worth it

[grave sonnet]

The only DLCs I actually liked buying

[grave sonnet]

Nah they are good trust

[grave sonnet]

Wdym

[sly venture]

just so yall know if I get rich I won’t tell you but there will be signs ( I will get arms against tyranny)

[sly venture]

25 dollars btw

[proven wing]

Yeah I like the focuses to baltics and poland its really nice

[grave sonnet]

Same same

[grave sonnet]

I wasted half my countries GDP on hoi4

[sly venture]

BRO HOWWWWWW

[grave sonnet]

Naval invasion.

[sly venture]

BRO I HAVE FULL NAVAL SUPERIORITY ON EVERY SEA THE BRITISH NAVY AND 50 DIVISIONS IN THE COAST LINE

[proven wing]

Any tips on how to crush Soviets as Germany like I always fail so maybe someone has an easy tutorial or something

[sly venture]

flamethrower tanks

[young lake]

Bro Ai just doesnt care abt supremacy in the new updates 😭

[grave sonnet]

I mean the AI usually goes Brainded when it's with u

[young lake]

If they feel like it then your being naval invaded

[grave sonnet]

AI doesn't care about anything if it's allied with you

[sly venture]

there go half my special projects

[patent thistle]

i swear the Uk needs to be buffed in north africa 🥀

[sly venture]

AND AM IN WAR WITH JAPAN??????

[young lake]

ONG

[sly venture]

yea bro what is this game

am retiring

time to steal all the purses as Romania

[grave sonnet]

"oh a human is on my team looks like I don't need to guard my ports"

[patent thistle]

rip chang

[young lake]

I swear there in Cahoots with each other

[proven wing]

Honestly playing Poland the best way is to give up Gdańsk and ally with germans cuz you can get lot of territories in the easy

east*

[young lake]

Just beat the Germans bro?

[proven wing]

not that easy for me

[grave sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[sly venture]

public execution to the general who aloud this

[young lake]

Nah W encirclement

That General is a GENIUS

[grave sonnet]

If u get the enrichment it's gonna be crazy

[young lake]

Just close it

[patent thistle]

thank god i do not border syria man.

[grave sonnet]

Is it just me or does Germany naval invade Palestine every game

[patent thistle]

its not just you actually

i have noticed that too

[grave sonnet]

Good 2 know

[proven wing]

when I play Germany its literally easier to defeat uk and usa than Soviets

[grave sonnet]

They are annoying

[sly venture]

the uk is easy

[grave sonnet]

I leave them last

[proven wing]

If you capitulate england then its basically the end and usa aint thay strong

[sly venture]

the Soviets are:

[proven wing]

But nukes are kind of broken like not even killing units

[proven wing]

Yea

[grave sonnet]

Casualties pleaseee

[sly venture]

10

[proven wing]

Well theres still the option to ally Soviets as germans right

[grave sonnet]

10 mil damn

[patent thistle]

uhm. why does bulgaria now have greek thrace-

[grave sonnet]

Yez

[sly venture]

I forgot to built an airforce

and to built an army

and to make a good template

And to make a navy

so yea

[proven wing]

Its the easiest one like with soviets you can win really quick

[sly venture]

I started building an army in 1939

[grave sonnet]

The thing is when you finish that focus

The allies invite

All demo nations

Into the faction

As a Coalition

[patent thistle]

ye but the faction collapses after 2 years

[grave sonnet]

Benelux,Norway ,US

[proven wing]

Ye

[patent thistle]

and you get the US in early

[grave sonnet]

Join

[grave sonnet]

^

[patent thistle]

benelux and norway really arent an issue

[proven wing]

I still prefer to fight usa than soviets tbh

[patent thistle]

its the US

[grave sonnet]

Not them

[grave sonnet]

100%

[grave sonnet]

If the US wasn't there

Then it would be easy asf

That's why they added them in

Counter balance

[sly venture]

this is the division I usually use as Germany is it good

[proven wing]

if you defeat US early its really good but the later they come the stronger they get

[grave sonnet]

For infantry I usually just do 18 width , shovel,aa,artilery

But if it works

Then it works

[proven wing]

So if you capitulate uk and get canada for an invasion its better

[grave sonnet]

Yes

But don't use all of Canada

The border 2 long

Only a part of it

[sly venture]

worst thing about invading the uk is when you forget what month it is and the British raj becomes a major

[grave sonnet]

And concentrate Ur troops

[grave sonnet]

I have never had that happen before

[proven wing]

UK generally hasn’t got much units whenever you start

[sly venture]

it happened to me the first time I invaded

[proven wing]

Poland has got more units i think

[grave sonnet]

UK is overpowered

Democratic and Fascist path r so good

[proven wing]

We shall defend our Island

[grave sonnet]

Whatever the cost may be

[proven wing]

If you keep germany out of the Island youre good

[grave sonnet]

Alr chat I'm gonna go now

[proven wing]

Bye

[grave sonnet]

Good night to everyone that's sleeping

[sly venture]

when the invasion actually lands

[clear dagger]

sure the rest of my front is falling apart but still

[patent thistle]

nice try to form a faction against me

i am actually questioning now how the hell germany is planning to get oil now when we are at war

DAM ITALY IS THIRSTY-

[tulip thorn]

They do kinda got that navy

[paper echo]

that coal deficit 🥀

stupid coal mechanic

[patent thistle]

ah yes because i definetly need more oil

[mint adder]

Bro wth are subdoctrines

Why would i need +5% defense for line artillery

[patent thistle]

POV: the most useless focus in the soviet tree (for me)

[woeful knoll]

International union of soviet republics is

in trotsky path

you would think this gets you a cool formable, no, it does literally nothing

and its either that or release all the soviet releasables focus in the same tree

[patent thistle]

love how italy is never gonna be able to defeat greece because bulgaria is mine

[steel zephyr]

I think I'm getting a little bit better at designing ok enough tanks

[patent thistle]

germany will not know what hit them

[sharp sierra]

i hope you lose

[patent thistle]

anyways good luck germany with the soviet maginot line

[sharp sierra]

i hope you get demolished by the ai

[patent thistle]

poor tito what did bro do

[steel zephyr]

ok this is utter ragebait

denmark invited me to allies, I accepted, but so did sweden 😢

i generated no world tension beforehand so no one guaranteed sweden

[tulip thorn]

100 million dead for what 💔

[sharp sierra]

for getting in my way

[tulip thorn]

lol

[sharp sierra]

dumb ass allies mega faction

[safe wing]

unrelated but I took back Adrianople, Thessoloniki and Constantinople from the crusaders

[sharp sierra]

every casualty they earned

[safe wing]

allied with Hungary and the Crusaders in the Levant

now to retake Anatolia from the Turks

[fast slate]

ts not hoi4

[safe wing]

yes IK Shyy its Stainless Steel

sorry if seemed rude I'm just really monofocused on it

[patent thistle]

its going well for now i can tank losses germany cant forever

[safe wing]

Mega Comintern

[patent thistle]

the war started through tito lol

[nocturne cedar]

hmmmm... I could do a winter campaign here rather than the south, could work but who knows? Their supply could get back and I could risk a counter offensive, or get encircled... What do you all think? South or north? maybe tricking them with false intel on a northern attack to distract troops and then push north for the oil?

[patent thistle]

gotta love germany waisting units in the north

[nocturne cedar]

center campaign*

[patent thistle]

(i am never gonna call in finland)

[nocturne cedar]

AI loves to waste AI like that

[patent thistle]

italy is loosing syria now. good.

bro italy litterally had all of egypt-

[nocturne cedar]

what the hell went on here

[patent thistle]

the UK just being bad in north africa

[nocturne cedar]

Oberkommando des Heeres Knax, what should I do?

[nocturne cedar]

like always

why is turkey communist

[tulip thorn]

Starting to think that micro managing the greeks was a tad bit overkill

[nocturne cedar]

why is bulgaria a major

[patent thistle]

they love to become a major for some god dam reason

[nocturne cedar]

lol

[patent thistle]

hungary loves to do that too

[nocturne cedar]

reverse barbarosa

[patent thistle]

the war straight up started with tito so they didnt even get the babarossa buff 🤣

[nocturne cedar]

btw can you anwser my attack plan?

[patent thistle]

what plan?

[nocturne cedar]

@patent thistle

[patent thistle]

i would suggest the south since the north seems to be a supply dead zone

[nocturne cedar]

actually, i just did a campaign there and suceeded

lemme send a screenshot of the progress

we are so back...

holy

[patent thistle]

i dont think the war is going towards germanys advantage

[nocturne cedar]

mussolini must be happy he got all of yugoslavia

[patent thistle]

thats only temporary

[nocturne cedar]

i'll send them my whole stockpile

[patent thistle]

OH ITALY IS NOT ABLE TO HOLD IT-

[steel zephyr]

where the hitler gone

[sudden wasp]

shitty ones.

[winter badge]

Hello

[buoyant heath]

what is "warships of the pacific"

[ember vine]

USSR players showing off their million german divisions encirclement:

[vital cove]

cosmetics

[buoyant heath]

oh i see

[winter badge]

Relationships of the pacific

[vernal crescent]

huh

[terse skiff]

like this one? Did another one in warsaw and then there were no german troops from danzig to slovakia

[ember vine]

Bro lmao wtf

Tanks only encirclement 60 divisions

[restive sable]

at last

[heavy rover]

is ts good

[viscid sleet]

Question, im thinking of doing a Germany run but what do you think of this plan

Use trucks/ mech/ and a couple of tanks in a template with horse backing up to fill in gaps quickly

With minimal inf doing slow attack to drop bombs
And cas above

[astral stratus]

Has anyone had an issue with the Spanish civil war just not starting? I have historical focuses on but every other game it is not starting for some reason

[glad sun]

Yes I do that

[viscid sleet]

How would you structure a template or templates?

Mix tanks mech and trucks
Or mech/ trunk
With tanks having own template

Filter along the lines
Backed up with horses

And inf

[karmic viper]

eva?

[violet veldt]

No

No hp

No org

Low stats

Dog water supps

Mot

[trim lotus]

This happens so often playing ahistorical USA. You gear up to start industrializing in mid-1938 when you can get "The Giant Wakes", so you'll be an utter monster by 1942-1943.

Then, by 1940, you find yourself at war with everyone everywhere all at once and why Canada why?

In this case, the handful of democratic powers are chopped up into four different factions, fighting the Comintern and Axis, which are also at war with each other.

[heavy vigil]

oh cool portuguese

[heavy rover]

why

i mean

u can see the stats

[heavy vigil]

dont wanna see those

[heavy rover]

what you want to see 💀

[heavy vigil]

gun 1 (1936) special forces stats are better than yours (especially per cost)

[heavy rover]

im just playing around

i am just learning rn

[past osprey]

what does the cafb 5 mean in the checksum here

[terse skiff]

is the mountaineer or ranger doctrine tree better? I haven't looked at the stats yet

[past osprey]

is it related to DLC or mods?

[heavy vigil]

just do both?

[terse skiff]

but I want to do marines for extra invasions 😭

[heavy vigil]

just cheat?

[terse skiff]

wow a mod is telling people to cheat?

[heavy vigil]

otherwise probably ranger cuz theres more forest in hist gameplay

but depends on terrain ig

[past osprey]

are you planning on mixing marines with rangers or mountaineers?
or are you just asking which doctrine is better if you dont use those special forces

[heavy rover]

ts bad or no

[terse skiff]

i don't use marines but the last doctrine for marines gives more naval invasion capacity

[terse skiff]

you don't need anti tank for sp

[heavy vigil]

not even true

2 of the nodes do it

fraud smh

well it is true just not 100%

[trim lotus]

If you research the second tier of landing craft, you already have 5x10 naval capacity. That's... kinda plenty IMO?

[heavy vigil]

no one has that kind of time

[past osprey]

so you arent using any special forces?

[terse skiff]

i'm always with 500 naval xp so I just pick all of them at once

i use mountaineers

i mean ussr starts with more mountaineers then they can actually train

[past osprey]

so use mountaineer doctrine
I dont get the question lol

[past osprey]

yes they are bad

[heavy vigil]

you wouldnt survive #ask-for-help-here

[terse skiff]

you can get 2 doctrine trees

[heavy rover]

why

[trim lotus]

Bad combat width, why the armored recon, anti-tank is a waste in single-player (I have no advice to give for MP).

The bog-standard infantry template is 9x infantry battalions, support arty, support AA, and usually engineers (skipped if you're really short of IPC but have plenty of manpower).

[heavy rover]

armored recon??

its flametank

[trim lotus]

Ah. Light flametanks. Less outright bad, more questionable.

[heavy rover]

im in 39

idk how to get medium flametank either

[terse skiff]

is this for defense? flame tanks give no buffs in defense

[trim lotus]

Immaterial. Medium flametanks would also be questionable on an infantry division.

[terse skiff]

switch flame tanks for engineers if you're defending

medium flametanks is pretty much first support company you should put on for any offensive template

[heavy rover]

im not defending

i made my own templates to hold

[trim lotus]

It's not very good for offense either.

[terse skiff]

looks like he's germany

you can easily win with all inf as germany

just use cas

[heavy rover]

im not using cas

[trim lotus]

The typical offensive templates:
36-width armored division, 25-width mountaineers, and presumably 36-width marines.

[heavy rover]

just fighters

[trim lotus]

If you have the industry, CAS is just flat-out overpowered.

[heavy vigil]

theyre good on paratroopers

[trim lotus]

I notice a distinct lack of paratroopers in the template.

[woven gate]

25 width mountaineers are goated

slowly becoming my favorite special forces over 27 width Marines

[trim lotus]

Which, if you're going to push with infantry, use special forces like paratroopers. You don't need many offensive divisions, your offensive divisions will take disproportionately high casualties, may as well use specops. Doesn't even necessarily need to be the right kind of specops; they're generally better than line infantry.

[heavy rover]

at least my fighters arent bad

[woven gate]

get some CAS in there though

it's worth it trust

[heavy rover]

ik

but im lazy

[woven gate]

what country are you playing

[heavy rover]

too many things to make

[heavy rover]

germany

[woven gate]

hitler wouldn't want you to be lazy

get to it

[heavy rover]

lmao

[heavy rover]

ts

[trim lotus]

On a sidenote, is there a reason for 27W marines? I've been using 36W, mostly because I assume that if 36W works for armor, it probably works for marines.

[trim lotus]

Now add support arty for a lot of soft attack, and support AA so it can work under yellow/red air (plus adding a touch of piercing and hard attack)

While line artillery is... not good, support arty adds a lot of soft attack for a small amount of IPC.

[terse skiff]

support art adds more attack for small width units, if you have 36w you really don't need support art especially if you only have 5 support companies. I have 12 support company mod so I can afford to keep it

[winter badge]

German ai pulled 1 hour in game moment

[heavy rover]

look ts kd son 😭 im not winning ts shit

[trim lotus]

I have to admit I'm impressed. I can sometimes pull that kind of K:D, but usually only when I have overwhelming superiority, e.g. "my enemy is China".

[terse skiff]

I can definitely improve on it. It was my first game with ncns dlc so I had to figure out how to use the new faction system

I didn't even realize that ussr now starts with additional -5 stab and -5 ws

[trim lotus]

truly, it was a necessary nerf. the ussr already starts with wonderful comrade stalin, and all the wonderful things he does to your military, your civil service, and any hope of spending political power on useful things.

[heavy rover]

its over 😭

[woven gate]

i'm not exactly a good player

so i couldn't tell you

it does a lot of damage but gets de-orged fast since i love artillery

[heavy rover]

worst kd ever

[woven gate]

i mean i'm alright but i'm not a mathmatical person when it comes to this game

[woven gate]

what'd you DO bro

[trim lotus]

Leave it to Paradox to create an intensely detailed, very popular WW2 grand strategy game where line arty is garbage.

[woven gate]

russia used it a lot irl so i'm under the belief that they should get buffs for it

[heavy rover]

idk man😭

[woven gate]

that'd mean they'd have to give the US the "Air Dominance" focus from France's tree though

[woven gate]

best focus in the game btw

[trim lotus]

I would argue the best focus in the game is "The Giant Wakes". Yes, it's negating a penalty rather than buffing you, but man is that a big penalty to get out of.

I'm now curious if anyone's done US world conquest without ever leaving Undisturbed Isolationism. It'd be a funny challenge run.

[woven gate]

as a US main i can confirm that one's good

Arsenal of Democracy gives you like 12 Factories

and the Two Ocean Navy Act gives you 5 Dockyards

[heavy vigil]

playing the US in the first place is a daunting challenge imo

[woven gate]

it ain't that hard

[heavy vigil]

in games youre supposed to have fun

[heavy rover]

yes

[heavy vigil]

i have never felt any amount of that playing the US

[woven gate]

i have fun soloing everyone

[heavy rover]

you cant do nothing til 41

or do a boring civil war

[woven gate]

i find Germany to be boring

[heavy rover]

mb

[woven gate]

nah it's not me being mad i'm just saying

[heavy rover]

soviet tree is one of the best

[woven gate]

it's the same movements every game i'd say

maybe i play it wrong though

[terse skiff]

i saw on chinese sites that you get to 48 stab in 3 months

[heavy rover]

they have so many goods marshals in the start

[restive sable]

so naturally the logical course of action is to purge all of them

[trim lotus]

And Comrade Stalin helps make sure that you have only the finest field marshals by 1941.

[woven gate]

if i was in charge of the USSR irl i'd have been in berlin like a year and a half ahead of time

[heavy rover]

no u wont

[woven gate]

anyways anyone wanna get on call and tell me how to play the USSR i've literally never done this in my life

[trim lotus]

Personally, I suspect if I'd been in charge of the USSR, I would've been assassinated within the month.

[heavy rover]

stalin was bad at the purges

but not in the industrial side

[woven gate]

i'd be good at both

i'd shoot vlasov because he's stupid and i have the power of hindsight

[heavy rover]

beria

[terse skiff]

They're useless. The 3 best marshals for ussr are chuikov, Popov, and Chernyakhovsky

[steel zephyr]

still no cap

[terse skiff]

The best marshal if you can send volunteers to Spain is a lvl1 guy with genius trait or terrain trait

[trim lotus]

I see the Continuation War has gone well for you.

Or are you still on the original Winter War?

[steel zephyr]

this one is alt-his, the germans invaded the soviets and i joined in

was a crazy game this one, germany almost fell when poland, czechia, france, britain and romania were all at war with it

but then german clutch

[trim lotus]

Have you at least used Motti's tactics with great result?

[steel zephyr]

can only use them on core finnish territory, the soviets were far to weak to threaten me there

I've also annexed these parts of USSR before hand from the soviet civil war

kazakhstan til capitulation it is

91%

[trim lotus]

(On a sidenote, "Motti's tactics with great result" is a reference to a Sabaton song)

[safe wing]

Talvisota

[steel zephyr]

only 92% to cap 😢

[safe wing]

That looks torturous

[steel zephyr]

their army was thankfully already gone way before the urals

i took moscow in the first few days of the war

across the transiberian on infantry

fast finnish infantry dont you worry

97% towards soviet cap

finns might reach vladivostok before soviet surrender

[severe radish]

Is the workshop giving issues for anyone else?

Its not downloading mods I install, and it won't let me verify my game?

[safe wing]

not that I'm aware of also nice user description

[severe radish]

Thank you

I love the Romans

[safe wing]

because I'm doing this RN

[severe radish]

OOooooo

[safe wing]

Medivial II JLMP Vanilla Kingdoms 1236 start date

[severe radish]

I have a big rt56 modpack, Im trying to add some new mods before I start my next run

and Im either gonna do Italy or Greece, and do a psuedo rome

like I'm thinking either conquer Greece as Italy, or Italy as Greece and forming the Adriatic empire

I don't feel like conquer half of europe and africa today

[terse skiff]

1236 and there's a whole byz?

[safe wing]

I only start out with the territories of the Nicaean empire

I’m taking Constantinople turn 1

[terse skiff]

So latin and nicaean are the same color?

[safe wing]

Latin empire is rebels

[terse skiff]

Lmao

[safe wing]

My army is besieging Constantinople

[safe wing]

The modders reached the faction limit

Would have been nice if they were playable though

[terse skiff]

Too bad post samurai2 historical tw games suck

[safe wing]

Except for Attila (though that’s my opinion only)

[severe radish]

Nvm my external drive hoi4 was installed on ran out of storage

unistalling some stuff fixed the issue

[steel zephyr]

what is this italian ai bruh, encircled dozens of their divisions in the mountains with my shit divs as finland

[mental mantle]

I have ball surgery

[finite plume]

Reworked Texas

It's like ~120 provinces give or take

Including base ones

I only have this much progress

Gotta work on Oklahoma next to finish that strategic region

[safe wing]

Why is the USA huge now is this an EU5 level mod

[sharp sierra]

did you hear about the magician driving down the street he turned into a drive way

[safe wing]

I got my own dad humor joke

Why does Darth Maul listen to Creep by Stone Temple Pilots

Because he is half the man he used to be

[steel zephyr]

italy competancy update when

[sharp sierra]

idk star wars

[safe wing]

He gets cut in half and lives

Though he was assumed dead for 10 years

[tulip thorn]

When half life 3 comes out

[sharp sierra]

ok i got a big joke

[tulip thorn]

Aka never

[sharp sierra]

the other day i was at the hospital and my wife was giving birth

the doctor comes up to me and says ill be the one to deliver your baby

i said wait no id like the baby to keep its liver

then hours later he hands me the baby

he sighs and says im sorry your wife didnt make it

i said well can i have the one she did make

[safe wing]

Okay that was funny

[steel zephyr]

finland

[safe wing]

In my current medivial 2 game the Turks just violated the number one rule of siege warfare attack your enemy when you outnumber them

[steel zephyr]

https://giphy.com/gifs/relax-logan-ts-so-peak-EAbaqyWU4psx1bdQB5

[safe wing]

Also Sicily loves doing what the ai allies do in hoi4

Naval invasions

[steel zephyr]

gotta learn how to paradrop now to defeat britain

[jade parcel]

theres some special advisor for ukraine

[heavy vigil]

general and FM too

[steel zephyr]

no clue whats a good bomber, whats a far nicer design than this

[heavy vigil]

looks fine

what are you trying to do

[steel zephyr]

bomb

[heavy vigil]

theyre only rlly good for nuking

[steel zephyr]

believe it or not

[heavy vigil]

for strat bomb per IC spent its best to do tacticals

[steel zephyr]

air tech looks like this

[heavy vigil]

if its long range bombing then it lacks range

its fine for like nuking

just make it 1 bomb bay and as much range as possible

[steel zephyr]

bombing britain

so range is not much of an issue

[heavy vigil]

just logi strike?

it goes crazy

especially if combined with convoy raid

[steel zephyr]

with what navy

I'm finland

[heavy vigil]

make one

you literally get spawn in ships from your focuses

[steel zephyr]

navy is chud

[azure walrus]

you know what isnt chud

playing greece in hoi4 tno

no content but if you go communist theres a fun little war of independence against italy

should i bother with an airforce

[jade parcel]

oh wow

[sharp sierra]

when i was finland i had the soviet navy + a bunch of carriers that i built cuz finland has 5 research slots

[steel zephyr]

i actually stole the italian navy but im not chud enough to learn how navy works

[sharp sierra]

there are no difficult concepts to learn

[steel zephyr]

https://giphy.com/gifs/gym-cortisol-spike-low-test-eCobiFJ0vnQwmKmhPh

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/oxytocin-gif-17636594878416577760

[fair horizon]

Is finland fun?

The only scandanvian i like so far is norway

[smoky fiber]

Ohhh Im so cooked

I was playing turkey

I went the nationalist path, joined the axis and a month later we went to war with the Soviets and allies

[steel zephyr]

best nordic country

[carmine sinew]

same thing but different

[steel zephyr]

over two thirds of my entire hoi4 playtime is on finland

its tuff

[sharp sierra]

i avoided playing it for a long time

let me look at my most played nations

[heavy vigil]

yes

[sharp sierra]

my top 5 nations apparently

[tulip thorn]

my top 5 are all major countries lol

Hungary is my most played minor nation

[sharp sierra]

i really dont remember playing chili that much

i did all the paths for achievements but

[tulip thorn]

I've played alot of Italy

Way to much italy

[sharp sierra]

is that ur number 1

[tulip thorn]

Yes

With both Vanilla and Modded

[fair horizon]

How do you see this?

[tulip thorn]

Career profile on the mane menu

[sharp sierra]

the user profile theres a drop down where you can filter stats for different nations

[fair horizon]

Main*

[sharp sierra]

it puts the most played nations at the top

[tulip thorn]

no one can make me spell main normally

[fair horizon]

Too much pony mod for you

[tulip thorn]

Not enough pony mod for me

[heavy vigil]

i ahte this game

[fair horizon]

Same

[sharp sierra]

whats happened

[restive sable]

mine are germany, poland, hungary, japan and italy

[heavy vigil]

anyway goofy batt;e

[tulip thorn]

My most played are, Italy, Germany, Usa, Soviets, and the UK

Now that with mods

[heavy vigil]

germany still technically most played so im cropping it out </3

[tulip thorn]

Love non hist

[fair horizon]

Australia main spotted

[tulip thorn]

Italy is probably going to be my most played for years to come

[heavy vigil]

its just cuz i had that one game until like 1970 or something

[tulip thorn]

When im really bored, ill just play italy

Sink everyones navies and form Rome

[heavy vigil]

this is just down from it

[heavy rover]

are you from portugal or brazil