hoi4-general

[patent thistle]

soviets got dunkirked

[analog ivy]

kirk 🫢

[tulip thorn]

I dont collapse as france enough to remember which one is free france and which one just lets you keep fighting

By disabling any map gfx mods you have enabled

[analog ivy]

what did they even do to the map

[tulip thorn]

Changed some shaders in the most recent update

[south mountain]

The AI is so bad. 😭

Encircled like 4 armored divisions

[fallen garnet]

are flame tank companies part of dlc´s or how do I get them?

[tulip thorn]

You can only get them from no step back

[fallen garnet]

alr thx

[analog ivy]

i encircled 15 once

armored

medium tanks

[analog ivy]

oh that makes sense cause i have a mod called smooth iron which changes the shaders

to make the game smoother

[tulip thorn]

I used to use that aswell

It doesnt really change performance at all

Its the exact same really

[patent thistle]

it is so joever for the soviets

my bad btw allies now you got nuked wasteland to hold ig-

[mystic nest]

Special projects from nsb

[fallen garnet]

a mod?

[mystic nest]

No

Dlc

[fallen garnet]

ahh

[fallen garnet]

the only tank divisions i can find on youtube or google use them

u reckon there is an alternative?

[tulip thorn]

Check #ask-for-help-here for division templates

[eternal palm]

Do not google tank designs 💀

[mystic nest]

Signal company

[eternal palm]

Take these

[fallen garnet]

ahh thanks man

[fallen garnet]

gon try that thx

[ivory hull]

why is it 38w?

[mystic nest]

It won't do the same thing as a flame tank company does keep that in mind

[tulip thorn]

Its better

[patent thistle]

litterally the first think suggested on google lol- 💀

[tulip thorn]

So much stats the exceeding combat width doesnt matter

[eternal palm]

Oh god

[ivory hull]

ok thx

[tulip thorn]

and its advanced chassis 💔

[south mountain]

Is it good?

[mystic nest]

Dude

[patent thistle]

here more suffering

[mystic nest]

We need more context

What are you asking about

[undone vale]

this is cursed

[tulip thorn]

I hope you get banned for this

[eternal palm]

That's only slightly bad

[fallen garnet]

what kind of tanks did u use in the last template??

[eternal palm]

Bros playing eu4

[undone vale]

124% reliability 😭

[patent thistle]

i simply send this show why its a bad idea to google tank designs

[tulip thorn]

Those are medium spgs

[eternal palm]

The ones I showed

[undone vale]

eu5 🙏

[eternal palm]

Oh and maxed doctrines

Don't have them on me rn

[undone vale]

eu5 start date in hoi4 before hoi5

[mystic nest]

Would it work with non maxed?

[eternal palm]

Wdym work

[mystic nest]

Just move the spgs to the right?

[eternal palm]

It works, doctrines just make it better

[mystic nest]

Aight

[mystic nest]

What's the best tank doctrine

I always go ie, field engi, idk, grand assault

[undone vale]

whatever gives planning bonus

[eternal palm]

Doctrines are mobile inf, self propelled support, streamlined deployment and grand assault with gbp grand doctrine

[eternal palm]

Depends on what tank you're making g

[mystic nest]

Rahhh planning is for the weak

[eternal palm]

Or if at all

[mystic nest]

Fair

[eternal palm]

Tank doctrines don't give planning.....

[undone vale]

literally a flat 60% increase in all stats btw

[undone vale]

planning bonus also makes tanks stronger

just go whatever doctrine gives the most planning bonus

[mystic nest]

Yeah I'm joking

But I go SF when I'm broke in industry

And GBP when I have a large army

[eternal palm]

I know. That wasn't the question now was it

[undone vale]

i like SF but line arty in infantry is horrible

economic disaster

[mystic nest]

Does it not buff support artillery?

[undone vale]

idk i havent touched this game in months

[eternal palm]

The reason you do sf is recov rate

0.6 is crazy

[undone vale]

🙏

[eternal palm]

So for inf you'd do that

[mystic nest]

Ah fair

[mystic nest]

Ight

[eternal palm]

Ratiod

[mystic nest]

Is overwhelming firepower good

Or nah

[undone vale]

bro PLEASE get a gf

and go outside

[eternal palm]

The tactic. No?

[undone vale]

😭

[mystic nest]

Ight

[eternal palm]

Did one of that

[mystic nest]

What tactic

Do I use then

[eternal palm]

So don't talk to me about the game bruh

[mystic nest]

On sf

[eternal palm]

Whatever you got

Don't matter too much in sp

[fallen garnet]

Spg´s all no step back tanks right?

[mystic nest]

Ight

[mystic nest]

No

You can make spgs in base

I thjnk

They're just

Way worse

[fallen garnet]

i cant really edit my tanks tho

[mystic nest]

In base I wouldn't even use tanks

[fallen garnet]

can just upgrade armor and stuff

[eternal palm]

Yea tanks without the dlc are shit

Just make inf

Even with the dlc

Just make inf lmao

[mystic nest]

Even with DLC you don't need tanks

[fallen garnet]

fr?

[mystic nest]

Everytime I see someone making tanks before air I did a little

[eternal palm]

Yea

[mystic nest]

Die

[eternal palm]

Make 36w inf

Rush gun3

And done

U won the game

[fallen garnet]

template?

how 36w?

[mystic nest]

18 inf battalions

[fallen garnet]

(im pretty new)

[fallen garnet]

they that strong?

[mystic nest]

Each one gives two width unless if you choose specific doctrines

[undone vale]

yeah

[mystic nest]

Yeah inf is great

[undone vale]

you can spam them out

[mystic nest]

Swap flame for signal

[eternal palm]

And u no

[mystic nest]

You should have everything else in base

[fallen garnet]

so the spam is a lot stronger than the tanks??

[undone vale]

no bro 😭

[mystic nest]

What

He doesn't have dlc

[undone vale]

flame tank gives insane stat bonus

[fallen garnet]

i mean the tanks got more soft attack

[eternal palm]

Oh for him

[mystic nest]

He doesn't have dlc..

[eternal palm]

Ye

[undone vale]

oh

[eternal palm]

Reading is hard

[undone vale]

yeah

for both of us xd

[mystic nest]

Lmao alg

[eternal palm]

Cuz the dlc is kinda insane

Soft attack doesn't matter for this. If you just out cycle your enemy the stats don't matter

AI doesn't have stats anyhow

Hoi can be won with just org and hp

[fallen garnet]

ahh

gon try that out thx

[mystic nest]

Keep an eye on supply

[fallen garnet]

through supply hubs and railroads, right?

[proud tapir]

i am so glad that theres an option to call for white peace after taking indochina

now you dont have to fight the entire allies

[mystic nest]

And motorisation levels yes

[proud tapir]

hopefuly we see more of this

[fallen garnet]

how do i get it more for motorisation

i need 0 trucks

for supply

[mystic nest]

Click on an army

You'll see a horse icon

Click on that icon twice until it shows three trucks

Boom

Your units can now walk five metres from a depot without attritioning

[fallen garnet]

so its more useful than using trains?

thx for yalls help

[mystic nest]

They use truck and trains

[patent thistle]

why even bother soviets?

[low owl]

Can they nerf the prc, I do warlord runs and it’s legitimately impossible to combat the infiltration

[patent thistle]

sorry bro but that is kinda the point

[mystic nest]

The entire Soviet navy just died there

[patent thistle]

the warlords are meant to be weak

against communist infiltration

[mystic nest]

People when minor countries are minors and not Brazil

[patent thistle]

fr

like i want to doupt the warlords were actually that popular in the regions they controlled

that wouldnt exactly help them

[undone vale]

10.000 BC simulator

[low owl]

Like I’m trying to form the Great Ma and every single state becoming infiltrated

[patent thistle]

oh its so joever for the soviets now

[azure palm]

An Anarchists dream

[undone vale]

so true

im thinking wether i should use vanilla states or make my own states

[azure palm]

if you want it easier, vanilla, if you want to make it high quality, make your own

[patent thistle]

rip mexico

[undone vale]

alr ty

ill make my own

more fun anyway

im gonna have to do province editing so i might as well lol

[patent thistle]

mexico trying not to explode into a civilwar
Difficulty: Impossible

[undone vale]

i really hope paradox will make a new engine if they decide to do hoi5

istg if we see clausewitz i will lose hope in this company

[patent thistle]

better, optimised, multiplayer, should be the priority

[undone vale]

i just want multi-core support 😭

[undone vale]

modding support should be high on the priority list as well

[patent thistle]

my CPU only has 2 cores so wouldnt exactly help me much

[undone vale]

clausewitz is amazing in modding

ngl

the fact that its mostly just .txt editing makes it very friendlyy

[undone vale]

lil bro got that pentium 2 😭

straight outta 2012

[patent thistle]

no an old i5

[undone vale]

damn

[patent thistle]

i5-6300U

[undone vale]

i7-5600U thats my laptop cpu 🙏

[azure palm]

please, if you do, make vienna its own state. Please, its more accurate...

[undone vale]

needed anyway for siege of vienna

[azure palm]

thank you!

[patent thistle]

you dont exactly have more cores either-

[azure palm]

whats the name of the mod gonna be?

[undone vale]

no clue yet

[undone vale]

my desktop cpu has 16 cores

[patent thistle]

the rise of the ottomans would fit fairly well

considering you are talking about the siege of vienna

[undone vale]

i mean

i guess

start date will be 1337 because i can steal eu5 map :p

[patent thistle]

why are you then talking about the siege of vienna-

thats like way later-

[undone vale]

i know

i can have mulitple start dates

[patent thistle]

if you get to 1444 you should obviously name it "constantinoples final stand"

[patent thistle]

now the entire soviet navy unironically died here

[lucid ridge]

@silk walrus

[patent thistle]

i did my part now its your job to continue west. i am stopping any advance cause here is litterally no supply

(ik east siberia)

[atomic wolf]

what's the best division temp for hungary

[night field]

i am tired of this

[naive burrow]

what is this mod

ur using

?

[night field]

the germans cant handle resistance but absolutely refuse to hand over any territory

[night field]

TFR map style

[naive burrow]

okl thanks

[fickle cove]

WHY ARE YOU IN 1960?!?!?!

[night field]

its hell

[fickle cove]

the mod you're using changes nothing other than the map style, right? so you began in 1936?

WHY DOES THIS LOOK LIKE 1940 AND NOT 1960 LOL (the war i mean)

[night field]

this is my 3rd 1960s game ever

[fickle cove]

how did the war even last this long

[night field]

i had to hold on every front because germans ran out of manpower in 45

and couldnt push because if i did the allies would naval invade somewhere and kill me

nearly died twice to that

ive also lost alot of manpower due to getting nuked while guarding coastlines

[prisma saddle]

that epic

[modest snow]

am i goated yall?

[night field]

also, my other 2 1960s games were my first germany world conquest and my ragnarok 1937 germany game

[supple mango]

i love/hate mefo bils

[viscid swift]

that feeling when you decided to play as austria on non historical cuz you're bored and the swiss decided to attack you (1:15 casualty ratio)

[azure palm]

self report

[viscid swift]

"something aint right here..." ahh screenshot 😭

[viscid swift]

literally

also archduke of austria do u want sudtirol

[finite nacelle]

atleast he is honest

made everyone do a battle royal. who yall beting on?

[uncut pollen]

Chile

[safe wing]

Bro killed himself

[azure palm]

yes

give it to us

[finite nacelle]

there are no hotdogs in the game bro sorry

[viscid swift]

well im not italy but if i could i would

[craggy trail]

[azure palm]

I dont care. Give us südtirol

[ivory hull]

kaiserredux ❤️‍🩹

[soft yacht]

best mod 🙏

[ivory hull]

czechoslovak legion best path btw

[soft yacht]

never tried it

should i do it next

[ivory hull]

its pretty new but also good

i tried it

[soft yacht]

ill give it a go next

[ivory hull]

its just the average transamur experience

[soft yacht]

hm ok

[ivory hull]

but you can like core a slavic union

[soft yacht]

oh thats peak

[patent thistle]

isnt it made by the same people that made the great war redux?

[soft yacht]

i think so

[ivory hull]

is it?

[patent thistle]

nope

[ivory hull]

kx is a lot better than gwr

[patent thistle]

if it was made by the same people i wouldnt have cared if it was good or bad

[ivory hull]

the kx dc is also a special place yk

[patent thistle]

OH COME ON. please atleast tell me its not as bad as gwr

[ivory hull]

i told smbdy you can get the german civil war content without submod, i even send proof but the mod just disagreed with me and banned me

[patent thistle]

atleast no islamophobes.

[ivory hull]

i dont know enough about their dc to agree or disagree

[ebon crypt]

new game time

germany once more

[glacial hearth]

https://www.paxhistoria.co/games

[finite nacelle]

rare moose-a-linee W

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/twilight-sparkle-wave-cute-mlp-my-little-pony-gif-8814149759150757043

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/countless-coloratura-coloratura-mlp-my-little-pony-mlp-wave-gif-1702021189915528781

[dusk elm]

90281953862789129

[jovial narwhal]

what is ts

why is that there

[tender bay]

Is there any bulgarian patriotic songs that are original in the workshop?

[patent thistle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3047111005&searchtext=bulgarian+patrotic
first one i found

[tender bay]

Thank you very much!!

[pure notch]

Game code ID: 90281953862789129

Game code ID: 90281953862789129

Non-Historical. No mods.

[red tendon]

FRAUD NEXT WEEK

[uncut pollen]

#alt-history-multiplayer

[ripe slate]

Your faction affecting your spy upgrades

[jovial narwhal]

Japan empire lowk fun

[uncut pollen]

Mariii

[ebon crypt]

are there any mods that let you peace the uk or soviets without having to sealion or go to siberia?

[vocal bolt]

is cavarly any good ?

should I go for cavarl divs as hungary or infantry

[opal nymph]

It is very niche

I don't think Hungary gets any bonuses to cavalry

[vocal bolt]

they get a starting cavarly divison to boot

not that good but its cool

is cavary any good in general ?

[vocal bolt]

wait they do

you can get a cavarly expert for 10% attack and def on cavarly

worth ?

[desert tapir]

First time seeing the ussr join the axis😂

[trim schooner]

Every time europe thinks it’s funny to get in South American wars the more they deserve to be nuked for it.

[patent thistle]

got 5 nukes again might elsewell use them

even with the soviet situation looking bad

aw

[dusky burrow]

aussa still alive?

[winged field]

Papa Stalin won't like that

[patent thistle]

dont care

dont think bro will survive anyways

[winged field]

the long march west fr

[patent thistle]

dont think that will help ya stalin

but eh

[patent thistle]

when you already got nuked there-

[patent thistle]

no need i basically nuked the entire soviet west at this point, the western powers should be able to win

[south mountain]

Is it me or when I play italy my navy disappears in 3 seconds?

[patent thistle]

got in an engagement with the entire british carrier force?

[winged field]

right

[south mountain]

Yup

[patent thistle]

i didnt like kazan

[prisma saddle]

yo guys

good ship for spotting?

[vocal bolt]

WHY IS UK GOING COMMUNIST

[south mountain]

Are there any easy to understand, short to medium and useful tutorials about navy?

[native forge]

donda

[vocal bolt]

WHAT THE HELL

[patent thistle]

if you are using it purely for spotting dont even bother with that secondary gun

[vocal bolt]

COMMUNIST FRENCH UPRISISNG IS TAKING GERMANY

[patent thistle]

try to get radar

[vocal bolt]

lmao ?

[patent thistle]

i may or may not have also hintered my allies now with my nuclear shenanigans but eh 🤷‍♂️

not my problem

[umbral agate]

what is this?

[patent thistle]

sure i have enough men UK

[steel zephyr]

about to be slimed

[undone vale]

peak....

[patent thistle]

byzantinum controlled a little more i am pretty sure

[undone vale]

ik ik

i was just testing to see if i fixed leader

they had like

a lot more

whoops i forgot to delete events

[steel zephyr]

no sliming yet...

[fair horizon]

expensive for a spotters

just use a few destroyers with seaplane tenders

leave the cruisers to be dedicated screens for capital ships

[steel zephyr]

uh oh

[opal nymph]

Holy smokes

[patent thistle]

FINALLY

[fair horizon]

that doesnt look like poland

[fair horizon]

look at this tiny carrier

[opal nymph]

Late war allies is pain

[fair horizon]

wym? you dont like having zero supply all the time?

[silk furnace]

most sane hoi4 combat numbers

[opal nymph]

Supply is somewhat an issue, but I simply just attack where I do have supply

[fair horizon]

i hate when i have troops guarding something IN MY TERRITORY and they decide they need to shove 50 divs on a port

[opal nymph]

The supply is somehow able to support 48 36 width mountaineers lol

[vocal bolt]

is there a way I win this ?

literaly everyone is communist

uk france romania poland ussr all communist and same faction

thankfuy am not in a war yet

[umbral agate]

what happened to mackenson

[south mountain]

Nope

[fair horizon]

you can get 3 of these for 1 of those

[vocal bolt]

non historical fr

[fair horizon]

does anyone even get war goals on you?

[south mountain]

You can not reinforce your units btw, so do not

[vocal bolt]

dont think so

I might go for italy tho

[fair horizon]

then you're fine probably

[vocal bolt]

they are the only fascists ever

[south mountain]

No

[vocal bolt]

no support

why

[south mountain]

You have 38 divisions

[vocal bolt]

not right now silly

[wide pebble]

what do you guys think about denmark?

[south mountain]

And can not reinforce them

[vocal bolt]

I gotta rebuild

just got out of a war

why is my manpower so ass

[fair horizon]

could be strong if you take out sweden and norway for the kalmar union

[vocal bolt]

I got cores on everything

[fair horizon]

whats your conscription level?

[wide pebble]

what path do you prefer?

[south mountain]

Because the debuffs

[south mountain]

Hungary starts with the debuffs in this game

And if you play that path you can't remove them.

[lucid brook]

Whats italy doing bruh ✌️ 😭

[fair horizon]

commie

though ive never played denmark tbh

[wide pebble]

i like the historical path

[fair horizon]

but you'll probably need the manpower from the marx zombies id say

[vocal bolt]

what debuffs

I got nothing but positive

I got cores on everythhing too

[fair horizon]

show manpower tooltip

[patent thistle]

thats the japanese navy that has been rebuild from the horrible endsieg start

[mighty bone]

w color name and flag. only took me 12 yrs but eh

[fair horizon]

whats endsieg do?

[vocal bolt]

the what

[patent thistle]

battle of seelow heights

[mighty bone]

put u in 1945?

[fair horizon]

hover over the 0 at the top

[wraith quiver]

Hello, I'm new to the server. Where can I join a game?

[fair horizon]

you might be able to find one in the multiplayer channel

[wraith quiver]

thanks

[patent thistle]

i basically defeated china and then forced the US into a wp with benefits for me after nuking them 3 times

[vocal bolt]

is this any good ?

should I focus on tank divs now ?

[patent thistle]

for what purpose

?

holding or offense?

[vocal bolt]

I am not in a war rn

ill prob go for offense soon

this is the main thingamajig

[vital cove]

no

[vocal bolt]

I dont need any other templates I think

[vital cove]

use pure infantry

[vocal bolt]

I dont have ports to defend

[patent thistle]

i meant if the division is for defense or offense?

[vital cove]

16 width/36 width

[vocal bolt]

offense

or general purpose rather

[patent thistle]

then no

[patent thistle]

for defense you use 9/1s

and for offensive infantry. you gotta ask someone else

[vocal bolt]

my manpower is still 0

how

[waxen oyster]

So im doing my first play through as germany since the new update, is there a way to be facsist and not be hitler lol? I never like winning as Hitler

[vital cove]

8/0

line arty is bad

[patent thistle]

through hitlers circle

[waxen oyster]

Would I still be Nazi I mean lol

[patent thistle]

ye it would change the leader

[waxen oyster]

Damn lol

I guess I can just play it

[vocal bolt]

I found the issue

[waxen oyster]

I thought there was one where I’m the Wehrmacht fascist or something

[vocal bolt]

all my divs are out of manpower

[waxen oyster]

Maybe I’m wrong

[patent thistle]

can someone screenshot hitlers circle tree rq? dont have the standard german tree rn cause battle of seelow heights

[vocal bolt]

I cant make more bc they all go to the old divs

[waxen oyster]

My bad if it’s in low res lol

[carmine sinew]

this aint fair

[patent thistle]

if you do a strong successor you can change to a leader of your choice from his high circle

[vocal bolt]

is there a way to stop manpower from going to reinforce ?

[waxen oyster]

But they all Nazis LOL 🙁

[fallen garnet]

yo got a question bout battles, the enemy troops have much more attack damage then mine, but when I try to give my units higher stats the combat width is so big that only one can fight per battle. How do I fix that?

[waxen oyster]

All good thanks for the help

I guess I gotta be a gosh darn Nazi

I was really hoping there was one where the military fascist

I was told there was one but maybe I misheard

[tulip thorn]

And its worse than loyalty

You get less good bonuses

[unique cliff]

excuse me?

[vocal bolt]

its now 1941

[unique cliff]

what do you mean united kingdom of hungary and romania

[vocal bolt]

am still at 0 manpower

[tulip thorn]

Forgot that they can do this

[south mountain]

No

[steel zephyr]

🤤 please dont fumble again germany

[vocal bolt]

what should I use

also what should I build when I dont need anything

even more mils ?

[patent thistle]

i know he just really does not like hitler being the leader ig

[tulip thorn]

Not a thing

[shrewd valley]

nobody cares lmao

[dire trellis]

Do u need eisenhower for macathur path?

[patent thistle]

didnt gain everything i wanted but its acceptable

cause i am not ready for round 2 yet

[vocal bolt]

cna someone send me a good medium tank template ?

[patent thistle]

if i was mengkukuo i would be drooling

[ripe slate]

Actually dont mind that Camellover, Ill just check the code

[ripe slate]

Yes

MacArthur replaces Eisenhower, so he's optional, but IIRC he always says yes

[amber matrix]

can someone help me understand why im losing

in barbarossa

[vocal bolt]

more casualties

[south mountain]

RT56?

[patent thistle]

endsieg

russia is definetly now a more moderately sized nation in europe

[steel zephyr]

cool pocket

[patent thistle]

please abuse this weakeness

2 tiles are only holded by mongolian divisions

[steel zephyr]

right after i take the pocket

woah, 280k

i got to lock in only 6% wp

[vocal bolt]

if I capitulate and get bailed out by my faction do I get all my land back

[fair horizon]

i hate you for this paradox

give me back my recuitable

[vocal bolt]

is there a way to command ally ai to attack ?

[fair horizon]

nope

[vocal bolt]

there is a massive gap in the line

[exotic kettle]

guys is it worth it to get the no step back dlc or should i get something else

[fair horizon]

does medium tanks affect medium spgs?

[steel zephyr]

holy pocket

[south mountain]

USSR in this game feels weak

Like

It loses 90% of the time

[steel zephyr]

yeah, well babarossa did begin a year earlier (this is historical, but war began when soviets declared on me)

cool pocket

[south mountain]

What units do you have?

[steel zephyr]

mostly these defencive onese that i didnt have the equipment to make offencive

but they still do the job most of the times

and one of these divisions that helped with the bryansk pocket

[south mountain]

What is the template for the vehicles?

[steel zephyr]

it's a german panzer IV

going to try close the pocket now

[south mountain]

Do you use the battle plan feature of the game?

[steel zephyr]

you can see me using it in that screenshot

[carmine sinew]

never in my life have i got the best case scenario as austria

except for now

[south mountain]

Glad that they integrated the Romania , USA and China DLC in the base game.

[steel zephyr]

🤤

can't be bothered to count how many soviets are in that bryansk pocket but bound to be probably 30divs or so

[south mountain]

51 divisions

[steel zephyr]

thanks

what a frontline...

[south mountain]

Ngl, they should buff the USSR in HOI4

[neon mango]

ahh yes, the pacific

[south mountain]

Lowkey feels like it is weak

[steel zephyr]

its mostly weak here because of all the encirclements me and the germans have done

[south mountain]

In the base game the USSR is weak too

[steel zephyr]

would be a class encirclement if only i had the strength to close it

actually...

https://giphy.com/gifs/tiktok-meme-reaction-t8o9PC7JAjs6FT8ACh

[south mountain]

Yo

That is NOT how you use spearhead order in this game.

[steel zephyr]

tuff

[south mountain]

Yeah

[south mountain]

Btw

[south mountain]

What was your starting country?

[steel zephyr]

latvia

with ostland I get cores on the rest of the baltics alongside polish belarus

[carmine sinew]

thank you romania

[steel zephyr]

yoo moscow closed

[vocal bolt]

monstrosity of a map

[latent herald]

I think my infantry divisions a bit undertrained yall

[steel zephyr]

once moscow pocket falls its joeover

https://giphy.com/gifs/benjammins-im-in-i-am-oQqwSu7vQJGEhE3CEn

[south mountain]

Did you win against the allies?

[steel zephyr]

not yet

[carmine sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-lebron-iames-lebron-edit-lebron-funny-lebron-shoot-gif-4457078241786873172

[vocal bolt]

the what

[carmine sinew]

the president

[vocal bolt]

THE president

[steel zephyr]

tuff

[carmine sinew]

yes THE president

[vocal bolt]

Do I pop out of existence if I decline

I lose my europe license

[carmine sinew]

he will make you antarctican

[steel zephyr]

700k soviets gone from moscow pocket

[weak rock]

soviets be dead

[steel zephyr]

man shouldve gotten a collab

oh well with what theyve got rest we can easily push past the urals

[vocal bolt]

this guy is goated

he is fighting entire nations bare handed

he is as powerful as 30 divisons

[patent thistle]

HELP MY LAPTOP IS DYING-

[carmine sinew]

germany cooked themself i was war-ing germany with my freinds (puppets) and i asked them for silesia for a joke like they would never accept right?

they accepted

bruh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1175442388383170703/1473102280273428561/togif.gif

[vocal bolt]

whatever you say mr president

[steel zephyr]

yooo

[fair horizon]

asdgjkbnasdfuki;ljhgbsdfa;jklg;lkhjdfsal;knsd;

why am i locked behind the worst focus in the game sdajfbsadjkgba

[scarlet badger]

who got 23% participation?

[young lake]

Poor Stalin, getting bossed around like this! 😔

[modern torrent]

lets conquer europe

[patent thistle]

what i usally do as australia is straight up just declear against a nation like bhutan

[modern torrent]

why you letting them live in a vegetable state 😭

what the hell kind of peace deal is this

[steel zephyr]

Germans couldn't let go of arkhangelsk 😢

so we kept bidding on it until I run out of points

[dusky burrow]

attritionfest on both sides

[steel zephyr]

atleast i got moscow and leningrad

[fair horizon]

i was at war with new zealand and stomped them extremely fast when i got on their stupid islands

[safe wing]

1444 start date?

[modern torrent]

what if i play the soviets but i invade germany first

[patent thistle]

yes. the game started, and my game died-

[safe wing]

Well it’s hoi4 not eu4

[quasi shoal]

❤️‍🩹

[modern torrent]

europe universalis is so confusing

[patent thistle]

the mod didnt have shit as content so 🤷‍♂️

[modern torrent]

id rather play a medieval hoi4 mod than eu

[safe wing]

It was for me for the first 6 months

[fair horizon]

nz is too strong imo

[safe wing]

But I honestly prefer it over hoi4

[modern torrent]

thats the thing

i spent 300 hrs learning hoi

idont wanna learn eu

[safe wing]

Iran in eu is more fun than hoi4

[modern torrent]

who should i play as this game

[fair horizon]

bhutan

[patent thistle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3668141816
Every naval haters dream:

[safe wing]

Nepal is really fun in eu4

[modern torrent]

wait

WAIT

GOOD IDEA

HOLD ON

[safe wing]

As your basically the Prussia of the Himalayas

[modern torrent]

I CAN CONQUER TIBET

THEN UNITE CHINA

WAIT

WAITTT

[patent thistle]

.

[steel zephyr]

russia got our backs

[modern torrent]

its a cool mod

i havent played it yet

[fair horizon]

forever depression

[modern torrent]

im screwed wait

[woeful knoll]

How do i defeat china as japan

[modern torrent]

hmph

[woeful knoll]

i can only push to nanjing with giant infantry pushes i think my main problem is holding the north

[patent thistle]

OH HELL NAW FIRST THING I SEE WHEN I SEARCH AUSTRALIA ON THE WORKSHOP-

AND OFCOURSE MY GUY IS GERMAN

[fair horizon]

i cant make factions because this tree sucks so much

[woeful knoll]

what tree?

[fair horizon]

australia

i literally cant continue the focus tree

[patent thistle]

rip

[fair horizon]

this game is honestly starting to be my least favorite paradox game

[patent thistle]

what do ya think about this?

[woeful knoll]

rule of thumb only play the new countries

[fair horizon]

no clue what it even is tbh

[woeful knoll]

the older the country the worse it is

[fair horizon]

rule of thumb no

even the default tree is better than australia's tree

[patent thistle]

it straight up just buffes the australian navy because yes

[woeful knoll]

default tree:
10 free factories for nations like bhutan and fiji
tons of research buffs

breakthrough progress

instantly flip idioligy, thousands of weekly manpower

Its literally op

[fair horizon]

australia tree: you arent at war so you're stuck with 3 research slots get bent

[patent thistle]

and dockards, which exist.

[patent thistle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2737013636&searchtext=australia
have found this

[steel zephyr]

special millitary operation in finland

[woeful knoll]

No country with default focus tree can possibly build a navty

maybe siam but thats it

[fair horizon]

if im gonna mod the game i might as well open the console

[patent thistle]

i have build one as central america

cause i was lucky

[fair horizon]

every single one can

i like colombia tbh

peru is probably the best one though

[patent thistle]

ye because they start with some naval capebilities

[fair horizon]

not even that

they just get the most cores out of sa for default trees because they can do gran colombia and bolivian empire

[patent thistle]

i forgot about that

[patent thistle]

modding doesnt equal always direct cheating. sometimes you just want to buff a tree which sucks ass.

not my fault they didnt even bother putting australia with the japanese DLC

[fair horizon]

my puppet made a ship

[patent thistle]

wanna know something you are going to hate? australia never gets the ability to core cook island yet the random indonesian formable does

[fair horizon]

yeah thats w/e to me

you also dont get christmas island cores unless commie britian gives it to you

[steel zephyr]

can i give certain states to russia instead of giving it all up

[fair horizon]

nope

just ask for someone to give you garrison support

[steel zephyr]

i forgot where the ui for that was

[lament plover]

what do we think of my encirclement

[fair horizon]

right click germany

and it should be in diplo options

[steel zephyr]

thats how it is without the DLCs

[woeful knoll]

200 more divs on the way

[fair horizon]

did the newest dlc change it? thats the only one im missing

[steel zephyr]

probably, i just got the subscription so i dont know which one is doing it

[tulip thorn]

Tuff

[modern torrent]

why does japan have no leader

everytime i select it it says no commander+

[steel zephyr]

had to disband a few divisions just to have enough manpower to garrison

mind that I also have three spies on anti-partisan in russia

[lament plover]

How are you event playing ostland?

Any why

[steel zephyr]

I start with Latvia

Latvia has a focus to form Ostland which gives it nice cores

[lament plover]

Oh

[modern torrent]

tag swap idk

[steel zephyr]

Latvian focus

[patent thistle]

how the flying f*** does a Australia extendet mod break the portrait of hitler

[snow rain]

you waited wayyy too long to do that, now it's gonna cost you A LOT

[steel zephyr]

couldnt disband them earlier because i still had war on my borders

first the soviets then the finns

[snow rain]

what's your occupation law ?

[steel zephyr]

yo rebellion

[steel zephyr]

martial

[snow rain]

bruh

use local police force or civilian oversight

you can't afford the martial law + you want to stack compliance in the first place, civilian oversight being basically the best at both

[steel zephyr]

local police force

oh wow the russians get it

[snow rain]

that's because you didn't stack any compliance and have high resistance everywhere, meaning each province grants a "resistance spread from xxx" to each one of its neighbours with nothing to counterwieght it

[patent thistle]

i fixed it by adding an uncensor germany mod

[fair horizon]

i hate australia

[steel zephyr]

ok gonna get better soon

civilian

[patent thistle]

i just wanted to check out the naval mod i showed. dam-

[dusky burrow]

oof your german army looks weak

[fair horizon]

why does commie france join the usa faction?

[heavy vigil]

HI VENDRIP

have you ever played another country

[steel zephyr]

my garrison template, do i need more supports

[fair horizon]

doesnt the usa vehemently hate commies?

[patent thistle]

might be "a little" overkill

[fair horizon]

im about to just stop playing this game alltogether

[dusky burrow]

no

[heavy vigil]

i mean thats chill its just like

[snow rain]

armored car 💀

[dusky burrow]

it's the most optimal template in terms fo conserving ic

[heavy vigil]

if you wanna play you should have variety

[snow rain]

are your garrisons even equipped ?

[fair horizon]

i dont like playing other countries

[steel zephyr]

cant even support that single armoured car battalion 😢

[lament plover]

This was right after I killed the aliles

[snow rain]

armored cars are useless btw

[fair horizon]

i also dont like when the tree is so hardcoded you cant do anything

[heavy vigil]

fair enough

[snow rain]

then don't put it in there !!!

[steel zephyr]

high suppresion low manpowre

armoured cars only useful for that

[fair horizon]

WHY

[snow rain]

it penalizes the entire occupation law

[snow rain]

use light tanks for that

[steel zephyr]

oh alr boss

[azure palm]

I am right now playing the confederated states of america and I just failed an invasion of Cuba. Historically accurate to some degree I guess

[fair horizon]

like honestly why is there not a check to see if commie china exists

[snow rain]

you can get better suppression with same manpower and 1/3rd of the cost

[heavy vigil]

ok so you go to wart with portugal and liberate them

fun campaign

[fair horizon]

yeah no can do

[snow rain]

that deficit means you're taking penalities to resistance and compliance EVERYWHERE

[steel zephyr]

sure gonna free up a lot of factories 💀

[fair horizon]

cant fight the usa and portugal

and france

and the dutch

and y'know

[heavy vigil]

portugal is weak af

[dusky burrow]

How

[snow rain]

you only need 1 fac on trains too

[heavy vigil]

like legit worse than anyone

[fair horizon]

COMMIES IN A DEMOCRATIC FACTION

[snow rain]

and maybe 2 on trucks

[fair horizon]

correct! the usa however will naval invade me

[steel zephyr]

yeah i really gotta sort out my production, havent touched it for a while

[fair horizon]

because i do not have the manpower to cover my ports

[heavy vigil]

do they have naval range

[steel zephyr]

gotta make better german tanks now

[patent thistle]

this is why i prefer the fascist path. both because i hate communism and because i hate having the need to help a specific nation

[fair horizon]

id say yes

[fading elk]

So has anyone actually done facist Austria, and if so is it actually fun

[azure palm]

failed invasion of cuba

[heavy vigil]

dont look at that

[fair horizon]

im looking at new caldonia

[heavy vigil]

if the sea isnt red the ai isnt able to project supremacy

[fair horizon]

where they can naval invade me from

[carmine sinew]

i dont even own hungary but this is good enough i guess

[fair horizon]

i dont have the ships to contest them either

[steel zephyr]

yikes, gotta remove my old licenses the price is pretty hefty

[azure palm]

Like music to my eyes

[fair horizon]

like im not contesting the usa

[dusky burrow]

can you annex the other white countries

[fair horizon]

also access to western british islands

[dusky burrow]

rough

[fair horizon]

this country sucks

[vital cove]

yea it's pretty good

[carmine sinew]

no

[dusky burrow]

yeah you should do that after stealing techs

[vital cove]

you get Austria Hungary

and then cores on Germany

its basically the same as non aligned

just with a different name

[steel zephyr]

got a lot of factories free but not good enough tech yet for tanks, do i just make empty tanks

[fair horizon]

i dont like the fascist path because you can run out of manpower and then thats it

[vital cove]

and not as cool of a leader

[fading elk]

I was wondering about that, I do like AH but besides cores is there any real differences doing it facist

[modern torrent]

why are their casualties so high

[vital cove]

you not owning Hungary is the reason you have neither an army nor manpower 💔

[dusky burrow]

their divisions are being mass encircled due to how the civil war starts

[vital cove]

the cores are the same

there are few not very important bonuses that are different

[modern torrent]

there we go

[heavy vigil]

you have a carrier

[fair horizon]

converted cruiser

and it has like 5 planes

they can invade any port on australia from foreign nations

any direction

im making a list of gripes rn so

[dusky burrow]

I've actually made the normal British defeat the fascists, but it took so much effort to do so

[modern torrent]

why do british divisions have like no strength

[heavy vigil]

did you know its easier to license from basic airframe into modern airframe than it is to license from gun 0 to gun 1

[fair horizon]

iirc the fascists get most of the equipment

[modern torrent]

weird

[steel zephyr]

italians doing so bad latvians gotta bail them out

[modern torrent]

the demo side gets the more (historically) industrialized lands in the north tho

[dusky burrow]

huh i thought the latter would just take 1 factory and minimal approval

[fading elk]

Guess I’ll try it then

[heavy vigil]

no like the approval part

not the civ cost

because approval is based on year difference between techs

which for gun 0 to gun 1 is 18 years

[dusky burrow]

ah i see

[heavy vigil]

like thats the same as 1936 to 1954

and it rlly sucks because 100 relation isnt enough to license gun 1

pmo

[modern torrent]

the ratio is insane

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

RIP actually decent british people

[fair horizon]

doesnt matter usually, fascists run them over

[dusky burrow]

^

[modern torrent]

can they just give up this tile weve been fighting for over a month

[dusky burrow]

you should have surrendered to the amreicans when you had the chance

[dusky burrow]

this is when you start building cas

and using your navy to outmaneuver them

[steel zephyr]

previous clearing was from taranto, now the latvians will try recapture the rest

[dusky burrow]

oof taking calabria is hard

[modern torrent]

the lion doesnt concern himself with anything that isnt land warfare

[dusky burrow]

you're literally britain

[modern torrent]

shhh

ill invade the spanish through gibraltar

then ill invade main land europe

the lion doesnt concern himself with playing the game correctly

[fair horizon]

where navy

[steel zephyr]

yoo finally got mp now that -25% garrisons are needed

[patent thistle]

this australia extended mod "might" be a little strong given its not even an option for the US-

[azure palm]

bro thats crazy

[fair horizon]

my puppet has more research slots than me :|

[dusky burrow]

real

[fair horizon]

i love how much one focus blocks in this tree

[patent thistle]

lol-

i swear australia has to be in the american DLC if they get updated in a pacific DLC

[desert dust]

yo does anyone wanna just team up and play multiplayer with me

[sly venture]

am disappointed

[desert dust]

i have a bad computer tho and i’m 13

[hardy mirage]

internet usually matters more for hoi

[sly venture]

I have a crazy good pc but my internet sucks lol

[desert dust]

like it slowly slows down towards 1943-1945

[mystic nest]

Nah the lag would kill you more

From like the game itself running like crap

[fair horizon]

they're supposed to get an update in the next dlc

[mystic nest]

It's long overdue

Australia is like

America

Except youre not america

[fair horizon]

the worst dominion in terms of tree

my personal favorite is SA ngl

[mystic nest]

I like canada

Its tree is fine

[vital cove]

all of the dominions are the worst dominions

none of them is playable

[mystic nest]

Canda is playable I guess?

If you specialise in special forces you can still make a fairly big impact

[vital cove]

there is no such thing as impact in sp

im not playing to help the ai

im playing to win

[mystic nest]

You kinda have to as historical canada or saf

They dont have the industry to do anything other than help

[vital cove]

... that was my point, they're not playable

[fair horizon]

thats just false

[vital cove]

but also who plays historical lol

[fair horizon]

south africa is baller

[mystic nest]

I prefer it over non historical

[patent thistle]

new zealand being forgotten once again:

[fair horizon]

6 research slots

[mystic nest]

forgot that even existed

[fair horizon]

more core manpower than australia btw

[mystic nest]

wtf

why

[fair horizon]

they core taiwan when they do ther polynesia thing

[mystic nest]

oh 💀

thats some bs bruh

[patent thistle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/fallontonight-tonight-show-how-what-is-this-boqCITo4CpcRYJObHN

[undone vale]

progress

[fair horizon]

taiwan alone almost has more pop than australia and then they get a bunch of other pacific islands

[undone vale]

i now realise how little states hoi4 has

[undone vale]

ill for sure use a state mod later, once my favourite gets updated

[mystic nest]

Yeah

I think this currently amount of states is enough for the type of game hoi4 is

More tiny little states to walk into and stretch your frontline wouldnt be very nice

[undone vale]

agree agree

[patent thistle]

might be a little strong this australia extended mod.

[undone vale]

i suppose for now the vanilla states will do

[patent thistle]

then again its strong enough to break the german censored hitler portrait

[undone vale]

its so stupid that he is censored now

just because of a idiotic german streamer

i hate her

[patent thistle]

still censored*

[undone vale]

?

[patent thistle]

it always has been censored in germany

[undone vale]

no

he hasnt

he wasnt before

[patent thistle]

in germany yes

[undone vale]

no he wasnt

im german 🥀

[patent thistle]

i am german too

[undone vale]

oh

i swear he wasnt

[fair horizon]

yes he was

[undone vale]

maybe i used a mod or smth but i dont rememeber

[heavy vigil]

raiwan is like 60% of it

[patent thistle]

he always was censored in the german version

[undone vale]

thats dumb

why censor history

[patent thistle]

wolfenstein litterally had to censor hitler and rename him in their game

[undone vale]

but stalin is allowed..

[undone vale]

I REMMEBER THAT WHEN I SAW THAT

😭

[fair horizon]

still has more

[undone vale]

i just noticed i will have to go trough every state and change the population to fit middle ages estimates

ion wanna do that 💔 im just gonna write a script that 1/4 the population of every state that should be good enough

[heavy vigil]

tbh the new doctrine system nerfed nzl a lot

[safe wing]

thoughts on the Medivial II mod I'm playing?

[undone vale]

man what the hell are you playing

[safe wing]

not the most accurate 1330

but still fun

[undone vale]

im also playing 1330

[safe wing]

Roar of Conquest 9th edition mod for Medivial II

[undone vale]

nice

[safe wing]

Total war doesn't need to be accurate to be fun IMO

[fair horizon]

the update to desperate defense has neutered a lot of countries

[safe wing]

Rome Total War and Medivial II are fantastic examples of this

[mystic nest]

thanks pdx

[safe wing]

First stop Athens

[heavy vigil]

oh no the mastery in general

[fair horizon]

finally getting my 4th research slot in 1942 ❤️

[fair horizon]

eh

i never got them early enough to care so