hoi4-general

[daring tiger]

𝓜𝓲𝓵𝓴 𝓜𝓪𝔁𝔁𝓲𝓷𝓰

[mystic sand]

plus hoi4s engine is kinda difficult to work with in any advanved way

[safe wing]

I absolutely hate the total warhammer community because they act like Rome total war doesn’t matter

Or medieval 2

Clausewitz engine>>> warscape engine

You can edit the map in the former

[daring tiger]

tbh france is prob the most eventful of all the allies (in singleplayer) so not including them in the dlc would diminish any meaning cause who tf is actually playing us or uk

playing sinkiang is more eventful

[safe wing]

I wanna see France have the option to continue the war from Algeria

[daring tiger]

would that really make a difference tho?

[mystic sand]

no one cause their focus trees are dogass

[safe wing]

It would make Germany have to occupy the whole country

Plus Libya falls earlier

[daring tiger]

also that but you get my point

its a pretty formulaic experience

[daring tiger]

ohhh

ehh

i could see that

[mystic sand]

youre getting yourself in a loop, its formulaic because the trees are old and the trees are old because its formulaic

[daring tiger]

but whenever i play germany i purposefully dont form vichy for the extra african land

[daring tiger]

i get your point here and do agree but the thing is that britain in general is just formulaic- *france gets eviscerated * destroy the german fleet and airforce * let them get balldeep in russia * us joins * proceed to d day and then tbag hitler

tho i do admit it would be funner

[mystic sand]

in that case every major is formulaic because it just consists of invading little countries then invading big countries

[daring tiger]

no cause as britain you sit there and just let the luftwaffe die in the channel

if your playing germany your actually doing shit

[dawn marlin]

why am I not getting the danelaw achievement?

[mystic sand]

its your own choice to sit there and not do shit

[sudden thistle]

Thats historical

[daring tiger]

in which case i would agree with you

ahistorical is just funner then

despite the tree being ass

[mystic sand]

theres alot you could do as britain, you could defend Poland, you could defend France, you could make the munich conference turn into ww2, its not hard to find other stuff to do

[safe wing]

Also Democratic King Italy path is fun

[daring tiger]

you can also do that as france

albeit to a lesser extent cuz you dont have an island but you get my poin

[mystic sand]

shit you can invade places as italy, does that make italy a country that didnt deserve an update?

[safe wing]

No civil war mechanic can still form Rome/Greater Italy and get the fascist war goals and diplomacy

[daring tiger]

good point

but fighting in africa does only so much

[mystic sand]

countries with similar ideologies are gonna be similar

[grizzled yarrow]

Playing spain kinda sucks but i like it

[daring tiger]

im not saying britain isnt fun, its just pretty formulaic

which can lead to it being not fun but its not exclusive to that

[safe wing]

Rome total war is pretty formulaic but still a sandbox

And it’s a very fun game

[daring tiger]

guys

should i play rome total war?

[safe wing]

1 or 2

1 is better

[daring tiger]

umm

whichever one is better ig

[safe wing]

More depth

[safe wing]

1 get the original on GOG for 10 usd

The remaster is trash

[daring tiger]

tho i do have faith in paradox to make it more eventful in the allied expansion

[daring tiger]

ok now i wanna play the remaster

[safe wing]

Why the Ui is horrible the path finding is worse than the original and it’s 50 gigabytes

[daring tiger]

oh

[safe wing]

The original is like 4

[daring tiger]

i thought it would be so bad that its fun to laugh at with your friends

but thats just a shit experience

[safe wing]

Play the Julii first

And conquer Gaul, Hispania and Britannia

[grizzled yarrow]

Im gonna have to lowk learn to wont he spanish civil war even faster

[mystic sand]

wait wait wait, you mean to tell me that one stalin hype edit was from the no step back trailer???

[grizzled yarrow]

Id try the communist path but then how do i beat the brittish with germany in the way

[peak fossil]

THAT WAS ME

BROOOOOOOOO

[lost dawn]

Considering I have not managed to "win" the spanish civil war as it is with the "new" focus tree

Winning it at all is an achievement I would say

[grizzled yarrow]

Its not too hard

[peak fossil]

Why i get banned

Broooooooooo

Why

[grizzled yarrow]

The hard part is winning it fast enough

[safe wing]

Your gonna get banned again for ban evasion

[grizzled yarrow]

The falangist path also kinda sucks since u gotta deal w the carlists

[lost dawn]

I love any monarchist path

Except for the Spanish one

Because it involves restoring the Spanish Empire

[grizzled yarrow]

Falangist path also

[lost dawn]

Which I hate (I am Dutch and we do not have a good history with the Spanish empire)

[safe wing]

Democratic king Italy is such a fun path too

No civil war mechanic plus you can form Rome and get war goals from the diplomacy branch the fascists have

[lost dawn]

I think the Dutch Monarchist path could be reworked though.

[restive sable]

it should be reworked

[lost dawn]

Since we did kind of conquer England once... It would be fun to see a reference to it in the focus tree

[grizzled yarrow]

I just look at florious invade the uk with fricking 22 divisions

How does that work

[restive sable]

bit annoying how its formable is locked behind being in a faction with the UK + benelux

[lost dawn]

And Belgium/Luxembourg being capitulated/democratic

[restive sable]

i do really like the dutch democratic path

[restive sable]

i didnt even know about that

basically have to play historical for a chance to get it to work

rather annoying

[lost dawn]

I'd also love to see a Dutch East Indies focus tree

it is a shame that the last DLC did not add one

[grizzled yarrow]

Yall

Should i just do the reg nationalist path instead of the falangist one

[lost dawn]

Go monarchist

(I always go monarchist if possible)

[grizzled yarrow]

Well nationalist is monarchist sooooo

[restive sable]

at least we'll get one soon 🙏🏻

the dutch tree still is pretty good despite it being pretty old

man the guns i think

personally find it the most enjoyable out of all the man the guns trees

[lost dawn]

Not always though...

I do like a good USA game from time to time

To try out some different templates

[terse skiff]

Day/night map 🤮

[lost dawn]

I know

I know...

[terse skiff]

Does that letter come with a black hand?

[lost dawn]

Not quite sure I am familiar with your reference

[night wasp]

playing usa feels like you have no idea what country to play as and you just wanna beat the world and relax

definetely a nice country

[terse skiff]

It's a Skyrim thing, at a certain point in the game you get contacted by the assassin organization with a note of their black hand symbol with the words we know after you steal their contracts

[lost dawn]

Let me geuss... someone stole your sweet roll

[terse skiff]

stop right there, criminal scum!

[lost dawn]

You know... I used to be an adventurer like you. Then I took an arrow to the knee.

[mystic sand]

What did paradox mean by "projected spheres of interest" in the uplift the Rosenburg Office focus?
"Allows for the formation of special Subject States and Administrative Divisions in conquered territories, such as ReichskommissariatReichskommissariats and ReichsprotectorateReichsprotectorates. Also allows the division of Europe into projected spheres of influence."

[terse skiff]

it means you get the chance to make yourself weaker

don't form rks, they suck

[mystic sand]

counterpoint: they look cool

[terse skiff]

the gold you steal from france should be enough to let you hang on until you achieve autarky

[night wasp]

cant believe gold stealing isnt a romanian thing

https://tenor.com/view/walk-out-table-slam-it-should-have-been-me-vexify-stan-twitter-gif-17257287542927595730

[terse skiff]

they're too busy stealing german humor

[mystic sand]

im not asking about the focus in general, im asking specifically about the spheres of influence part, the focus only gives rk formation options unless im missing something

[terse skiff]

so like they've been doing that for 100 years but haven't found any humor to steal

[terse skiff]

no one knows since pdx didn't code it

[mystic sand]

fork found in kitchen

[terse skiff]

it's just a useless focus that weakens you. But you do get -10% consumer goods factor so you like save 2 civs for the cost of 500 pp

i think it does allow you to core volga germany but that's just for rp purposes

[slim nexus]

what is this hoi4 larp

[lost dawn]

I once accidentally crossed into Romania when on a road trip

Once I parked the car to have a look at a map.... I accidentally lost my car

There was only the steeringwheel

(obviously a terrible joke... I know.)

😔

[daring tiger]

wait do we care what path were doing?

or do you just wanna do a spain run

[cursive oxide]

No Step Back – Best overall DLC voor gameplay

By Blood Alone – Veel extra content & leuke focus trees

Götterdämmerung – Nieuwe mechanica & Duitse focus

Arms Against Tyranny – Extra landen & features

La Résistance – Spionage mechanics

Battle for the Bosporus – Focus op Balkan/Turkije best dlcs agroding to chatgpt

[grizzled yarrow]

Js a spain run i suppose?

Wait how strong is the ireland navy

[daring tiger]

ok well if you wanna just defeat allies as spain then just go franco nationalists

[grizzled yarrow]

Franco nationalists?

[daring tiger]

yea dont go down the directory

unless you let the civil war go on for to long

cause im pretty sure the longer it goes the more factions start popping up

but as nationalists you can prevent it happening on your side

[grizzled yarrow]

Anarchists will spawn either way

Does the uk care if i take ireland?

[daring tiger]

are they guaranteeing them?

also you dont need ireland

[grizzled yarrow]

Then wut

Dont even think about navy

[daring tiger]

carlists are harder than nationalists so you should be able to do it as franco

[daring tiger]

you dont need to

like i said if you scroll up a bit

focus all of your resources on your army and core like 1 state

[grizzled yarrow]

Hmm

[daring tiger]

carlists (and anarchists by extension) get it worse than the nationalist so you should be able to do it

[fair horizon]

Its American larp actually

[grizzled yarrow]

I mean as nationalists i should be able to easily win the war without the carlist in the way

[daring tiger]

getting naval supremacy shouldnt be that hard

[fair horizon]

We literally invented night flying on carrier operations

[daring tiger]

well didnt you go down directory tho?

at least that one time

or

[grizzled yarrow]

Well yeah but yk not hist nationalist

[daring tiger]

yea

tho as nationalists you also just get more core states after the war was over

so you should be for the most part ok

ive only played spain once- as carlists just as a willy nilly run

and finished the war by end of 37

my advice on winning the war faster is to just pin all the republican troops while everyone else snakes

[grizzled yarrow]

Wth

Howd u do that

[daring tiger]

pinning and snaking pal

[grizzled yarrow]

So just doing a battleplan while snaking?

[daring tiger]

woah woah woah

were battleplanning?

nahhh

a good 80% of this war is gonna be you microing

[grizzled yarrow]

Oh my

[daring tiger]

most of your gains in this war are going to be withing the first 6 months

then the rest is gonna be you dealing with the gnarly debuffs and slowly but surely taking the rest of the VPs

[grizzled yarrow]

Aughhhhh

[daring tiger]

hey man

your playing (s)pain

[slim nexus]

bruh i playing kaiserreich right i made austria go down union path in game rules and im hungary i snaked austria 2 times in a row and each time i trried to anex austria in peace deal my game crashed twice exactly same time game is trolling me idk why

it never crashes like that as any other nation

[arctic abyss]

guys i think they should add listenburg to the game

in a dlc

[fringe sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-micromanage-gif-20717885

[steel zephyr]

latvia run going well

free belarussian land

[mystic sand]

Ostland was such a fun run

you dont core that part of belarus tho if you care

just the polish parts

[steel zephyr]

yeah ik, invading poland with germany in a sec

15th or 16th latvia run in the last few weeks

going for the achievemente now

[mystic sand]

Latvia's strongest soldier over here

[wise spire]

Is this a good template or not?

[steel zephyr]

nice, civil war in poland

[sharp sierra]

its a good infantry unit without that artillery battalion

[steel zephyr]

jul 1938

quick vilnius steal

[strong umbra]

you absolute nagger playing with non his ai focusses

even tho its better for such runs i despise you for doing this

[steel zephyr]

anything for the belarus grab 🤤

[strong umbra]

you deserve to be tortured by playing democratic and peacefull germany

[steel zephyr]

bruh germany isnt even joining

HAD TO RETREAT TO THE DAUGAVA

pmo

RELEASED LATVIA FROM LATVIA

[uncut pollen]

English only

[woven dragon]

cilvēk, es neprotu runāt latviski

🙁

I am done

[uncut pollen]

English

Only

[woven dragon]

Just can’t speak Latvian???

[uncut pollen]

Is it so hard to read the rules?

[woven dragon]

Uhhhhhhh

No

Yeah yeah rule #1 is English Only

Shucks

[uncut pollen]

It is for you

[woven dragon]

Sorry I know more than 1 language

[uncut pollen]

Yeah me too

[autumn plover]

I'm a little sad there's no plane radars in the game

[uncut pollen]

Dosent change the fact that you didnt read the rules

[autumn plover]

They were pretty prolific during WW2 for night fighters and heavy interceptors

[uncut pollen]

And didnt follow them

[woven dragon]

I read the rules

I just wanted to say “Freedom for Latvia”

[uncut pollen]

Yeah 3 minutes ago

[pseudo raven]

Sounds like cool special project actually

[woven dragon]

Okay bro

[autumn plover]

It'd be perfect for a special project

[uncut pollen]

Amd now Stop arguing

[pseudo raven]

Arguing
*

[autumn plover]

But it would really only be useful for night fighting tbh

Most radars at this time had ranges measuring in single digit kilometers

[pseudo raven]

https://tenor.com/view/kekuwu-kekw-anime-gif-10260786903607553889

[autumn plover]

In clear conditions you could just

See the enemy before the radar could pick them up

[uncut pollen]

You are doing alot of spelling mistakes too

[pseudo raven]

Maybe for atrat bomb damage increase

[pseudo raven]

To make them useful

[autumn plover]

Nah it'd be better to have them reduce the penalties at night or bad weather conditions

[pseudo raven]

Ik

[autumn plover]

Like they'll fight better when it's dark or stormy cause then the radars actually give a serious advantage

Otherwise they're just too heavy and too weak for regular fighters to use

[pseudo raven]

Ig would be to op with some countries focuses +doctrines+Mio

To much penalty reductions

[autumn plover]

Just make them ridiculously expensive and heavy

They're the absolute razor edge of technology at the time, they're not cheap and they're huge

[pseudo raven]

Than only large aircraft or heavy meds

[autumn plover]

most radar equipped aircraft were light bomber airframes

[uncut pollen]

@woven dragon no need to deleate, we mods have logs

[pseudo raven]

Make sense why

I am not so acknowledged in this topic, just liked idea

[autumn plover]

And the only one that wasn't, the P-61 Blackwidow, was the size of one

Only WW2 aircraft built to house a radar from inception

[pseudo raven]

Cool

[autumn plover]

All this to say it'd be far more balanced than it'd seem and would actually give medium airframes a purpose again

[uncut pollen]

no nazi flags/imagery please.

[pseudo raven]

Yeah maybe if it would aided with some slight rebalance of penalty reduction

[tawny crown]

Hi

[tawny crown]

Thank you

[pseudo raven]

Like not that much percents for 70 days only

Because if I remember germany had really juicy focus on night penalty reduction

[autumn plover]

Actually does the radio navigation's night penalty reduction count for all missions or just for strategic bombing?

[woven dragon]

I know, I just left my mic on

Mb

Sorry

[pseudo raven]

I can't tell u, pc is off

[woven dragon]

I do apologize my day has just been really bad and I am just trying to have fun

[pseudo raven]

Gn everyone

[remote quarry]

all

but it's not useful

[woven dragon]

Bye

[tawny crown]

Who do you guys main?

[woven dragon]

Wdym

In HOI??

[tawny crown]

Obviously

[woven dragon]

RN I have been doing…. Austria

But usually I do USSR or the RAJ

[fair horizon]

Cant you get a plane radar by researching radar?

[autumn plover]

No it's just ground based radar

[heavy vigil]

vendrip help

[tawny crown]

I like doing uk

[heavy vigil]

im having supply issues vendrip how do you usually solve this

as the world number 1 australia player ofc

[woven dragon]

Spiders and Emus

Are eating your supply hubs

[fair horizon]

Build a navy

[zenith imp]

what should i click

[wraith mauve]

Is 13 cas damage good

[wraith mauve]

1st won if u have more supplied divisions

[zenith imp]

ok

[fair horizon]

Could be better but it'll win you battles

[heavy vigil]

trying

i only have 130 dockyards

[vital cove]

and snakes

and pretty much every other deadly animal you can think of probably

[fair horizon]

btw why did you build a supply hub in every province?

[slim nexus]

Not time for haste

[foggy cape]

guys

pls

[fair horizon]

CASEY WHAT IS THIS

I THOUGHT YOU WERE COOL BUT I SEE SUBS?

[sudden thistle]

Nuclear subs

[vital cove]

nuclear subs

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/doctorevil-no-gif-22331678

[last elk]

no sorry i have collage and shit

[vital cove]

why not

he was trying to larp what if humans actually lived in Australia

[last elk]

wtf am i looking at

[fair horizon]

i hope they invested in a bunch of ground harnesses

[last elk]

he is larping if Australia was a real place

[last elk]

i would build more ship yards

[fair horizon]

based and navalpilled

[last elk]

build more supply ships, that usually does the trick

[fair horizon]

more surface ships*

[torn rampart]

how do I rescue an operative

[last elk]

imma be real i only have like 30 hours in the game and ive never even watched a tutorial/gameplay

OH WAIT I DO KNOW

with other operator you gotta do a rescue mission

its like a normal spy mission

or im thinking of the wrong thing

idk have a look but if someone else with more than 2 braincells can confirm if im right thatd be nice

[errant remnant]

chat i may be cooked...

[last elk]

wait what countries am i looking at

2 pixels per letter

[errant remnant]

Just look at Europe in general..

[last elk]

ur germany?

wait ni

no nvm

[errant remnant]

Nah im russia but look at the war summary

over 4M deaths..

[last elk]

im sorry the colours are throwing me off man

russia grey = germany won the war with russia

at least thats what i saw

[last elk]

oof

good luck bud lol

[errant remnant]

Russia is green and all the smaller green countries are its puppets same with germany instead they renamed themselfs

everything else is norma colours

[last elk]

ye i see it now

[slim nexus]

What if Österreich turned black and gro§deutsches reich and becam eevi infectiousl and destroyed norwayb spain occatania and expanded into russian germany

[errant remnant]

wtf.. thats not even english

[slim nexus]

Ok

[orchid lily]

ffs i literally only need +1 positive opinion from spain

anybody knows how i can get it?

[slim nexus]

Improve relation

[orchid lily]

doesnt work

[errant remnant]

is this better perhaps?

[slim nexus]

Guarantee spain independence

[orchid lily]

already did that

[slim nexus]

Trade spain send volunteer material support to spain

[heavy vigil]

wanted better supply?

[orchid lily]

well i cant send volounteers theyre not at war anymore

[heavy vigil]

i only make subs after i get ICBM subs

so i have like 150 of those

tbh i dont need more anymore

[steel zephyr]

a new low

[fair horizon]

NO CARE

NOT SURFACE FLEET

[worthy coral]

Hi

[maiden verge]

👋

[daring tiger]

👋

[heavy vigil]

i have one

it was out blockading half the world

also 200 destroyers split off because idc about them

[fair horizon]

no admiral traits 🤮

fake naval enjoyer

[heavy vigil]

i have like 20 admirals

theyve hardly seen any fighting tbf

[fair horizon]

fake naval enjoyer

[heavy vigil]

wdym

i dont build my games around making navies

[opaque zinc]

Sir john navy

[heavy vigil]

@dusky burrow comeback possibly?

[vital cove]

why do your generals have an extra 0

[dusky burrow]

Oh my

[heavy vigil]

mod

im too lazy to organize

[fickle thicket]

over 500 troops as communist australia in late 1978 🥀

[vital cove]

which one

[heavy vigil]

uuhh its like 1 megabyte do you want it?

[heavy vigil]

oh im on extensive conscription i already feel bad

[fickle thicket]

what did u do

[heavy vigil]

sorry i lied its 440 kilobytes https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1324280145

[heavy vigil]

took some islands, made subs and nukes, made rails supply hubs and ports, listened music

got some resource rights on south africa because i needed steel

[fickle thicket]

doesnt explain 500 troops as an island nation

and game lastin until almost 1980

[heavy vigil]

indonesia has a lot of people

[fickle thicket]

what mod u usin for auzzie content

[fair horizon]

java alone if you dont have it as a core is like 1m manpower

[heavy vigil]

its not even 1980 yet

[heavy vigil]

none?

[fickle thicket]

???

how much of the world are u occupying

[heavy vigil]

this and some islands in the indian ocean

[fickle thicket]

what is your current army size

[fair horizon]

i just learned the hood wasnt compliant with the washinton naval treaty

brits are cheating smh

[fickle thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[heavy vigil]

why do you even care about that lol

[fickle thicket]

because

just because

[heavy vigil]

this is my main strenght smh

[fickle thicket]

mid

[dusky burrow]

declaring war as a democratic country be like

[safe wing]

Democratic King Italy be like:

https://tenor.com/view/for-rome-rome-soldier-ancient-rome-gif-21126453

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/russia-lit-turnt-party-gif-9345649

[wispy ginkgo]

Wait, really?

[void harbor]

Are tanks worth it

[safe wing]

yes

though I don't use them

really depends on the nation TBH

[dusky burrow]

and terrain

[sharp sierra]

i think making a division thats almost half tank battalions is almost never worth it

in the normal game

[quasi shoal]

Often

[void harbor]

I just do all heavy tank division

[quasi shoal]

Not worth it tbh

[sharp sierra]

u could do like 4 or 5 battalions and have some other shit in there with it

[quasi shoal]

Ai is kinda crap so you don't rly need good tanks

[mystic sand]

Alright after learning what how the spheres of influence work, I can say no wonder they cut it, its a useless idea

[quasi shoal]

Good tanks are 8 batallions of spg and 10 batallions of mecha iirc

[sharp sierra]

i never get around to researching mech

i just use special forces with a couple medium tank battalions

[void harbor]

Alright

[quasi shoal]

I mean that's fine

[void harbor]

I find that switching from motorized to mech can be a bit problematic

[quasi shoal]

Atp just dont use tanks tho

[quasi shoal]

Nah not rly

Dont use motorized in the first place tbh

[void harbor]

Also mefo bills as Germany I would not recommend for beginners lol

[quasi shoal]

I would

[sharp sierra]

y

[void harbor]

Ok

[quasi shoal]

If you're only gonna have a few batallions

And not have that much armor cuz of SF

[void harbor]

I have 100% consumer goods factories

[quasi shoal]

Just use pure SF

[void harbor]

From the mefo bills

[quasi shoal]

What year is it

[void harbor]

1941

[quasi shoal]

Did you do the price controls

[quasi shoal]

Yeah no wonder

Invade smth

[void harbor]

What’s that

[quasi shoal]

And you can lower it

[quasi shoal]

Bruh

[void harbor]

I am invading the SU

[quasi shoal]

Read the focuses

[sharp sierra]

but im still almost never getting pierced by ai

[quasi shoal]

Did you kill poland

[void harbor]

Yeah stealing the gold right?

[quasi shoal]

That's smth

There's a focus called "institute price controls"

[broken sky]

hey guys

hello

[quasi shoal]

Bruh my ai uses line AT

What are ur tanks

[quasi shoal]

Hello

[sharp sierra]

idk however i make them

[broken sky]

how good is the consumer goods drop of the soviet rightist path

[sharp sierra]

the ai unit gets its equipment annihilated by the power of my unit anyways

[broken sky]

i havent played the right opposition yet so im curious as to what makes it good aside from the trotskyist and the center bloc

[void harbor]

this is my tank division

[void harbor]

I gotta check if I did that

[quasi shoal]

Yeah no

[amber matrix]

how many ships should i have for us in early 1941?

[quasi shoal]

How do you have a tank block with heavies and still only 50 armor

[void harbor]

I think I just used the German standard

I will revert the save

[amber matrix]

Please PLEASE tell me you have extra fuel storage

[void harbor]

300-400

[void harbor]

We are out of fuel

[amber matrix]

alr then i have enough

[void harbor]

Yeah we have price controls lol

[amber matrix]

You soon

[void harbor]

Um

[dusky burrow]

Oh hi there

hi from aussa

[void harbor]

Gonna retry Germany

[amber matrix]

you know what that is an AMAZING ideap

[void harbor]

i restarted at 1939

[amber matrix]

Consider your fuel next time friend

[void harbor]

this is my light tank division

1939

[amber matrix]

Just do 6 improved Mediums 2 heavies is the best

if you wanna do large width i mean

[void harbor]

we aren't making any mediums at this point

[quasi shoal]

Dont use lights

[quasi shoal]

No need for heavies

[fair horizon]

light tanks ❤️

[sharp sierra]

heavy tanks ❤️

[void harbor]

Light tanks ❤️

[fair horizon]

such ugly buildings

[ember vine]

I'm forming großosterreich from miracles lol

[slim nexus]

Ok

[dusky burrow]

weak

[steel zephyr]

1984

[finite plume]

Chunky focus tree for my planned civil war content

[dusky burrow]

flaktower but mobile

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/luigi's-mansion-luigi-house-but-it-mansion-mario-and-luigi-flight-reacts-nin-gif-16785839432815896563

[maiden verge]

From what i've understand, the left is a economic tree, the center is a military tree and the right is a diplomatic-political-ish mixed tree?

[finite plume]

Correct

This was the original

So yea definitely much larger

[maiden verge]

Nah both looks good, you are doing great. What is the country though?

[finite plume]

A fictional one

[dusky burrow]

argentina is no more

[dusky burrow]

holy

Argentina having more than 5 divisions be like

[steel zephyr]

still in the fight

[mystic sand]

ur like 1 solid push away from buenos aires, you got this

[steel zephyr]

ive already captured it

[mystic sand]

noice

I just love the new background selection

[amber matrix]

Why is it called island

😭😭😭

[steel zephyr]

ts pmo i just wanted the silly achievement as paraguay and i get into this

2mil dead

[mystic sand]

whats the achievement?

[steel zephyr]

got a bit carried away but a focus gives me war goals on brazil and argentina and i couldve justified before then on uraguay

then i just end it there after i declare war

[fickle thicket]

u fine

[mystic sand]

i mean, thats kinda off the table already, why not just restart if youre unhappy with it?

[steel zephyr]

already restarted

[heavy vigil]

pov trying to make china's rail system better

[dusky burrow]

china in the 2000s and 2010s be like

[heavy vigil]

oh yeah china held on for long so i sent vols to help push everyone out, also because portugal decked on me

and i peaced out because like i dont wanna just wipe their faction

but it means i have mil access and can make rails in more places

trying to make china a more dynamic/holdable place

i know the chinese supply map/where to make rails first like the back of my hand

[dusky burrow]

Unfortunately for you, China is a large country with very many Chinese

I see you're also doing this as Australia

[lucid ridge]

<@&846894118219022336> someone told me to kms in vc

[fickle thicket]

against who

[heavy vigil]

theyre fighting a world war

[fickle thicket]

it aint supply most of the time tbh

just ai incompetence

[heavy vigil]

ai incompetance is less bad when they dont lose their supply connections and have air superiority

[fickle thicket]

all that hard work can be blown up by logi strike if ai got strat bombers

[heavy vigil]

oh they do

[fickle thicket]

and is smart enough

[heavy vigil]

they nuke sometimes

[fickle thicket]

ggish

[heavy vigil]

like stalingrad has been nuked many times for example

[fickle thicket]

jeez

i dont play that far into the game

[heavy vigil]

war screen ai vs ai

[fickle thicket]

jesus

300m deaths all together

[heavy vigil]

map but its a bit wrong because the roman faction is like relatively very low on manpower

the ussr has capped twice in this game, once in this world war and once in the last

[fickle thicket]

christ man how are the romans still holding

[dusky burrow]

ihatestalinihatestalinihatestalin

[fickle thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-union-fact-checked-real-patriots-stalin-ussr-gif-506730060443640855

[stray fable]

This may go down as the greatest encirclement of my career

[fickle thicket]

ive had bigger troop encirclements

especially against the soviets

[dusky burrow]

I'm surprised Stalin approved

[dusky burrow]

yep it's germanyover

I did something similar twice

[fickle thicket]

its soviet patriots not stalin

[dusky burrow]

fair

[stray fable]

I puppeted Lithuania with an ultimatum so I could get a new front. Yummy casualties

[heavy vigil]

theyre most of the world?

[fickle thicket]

europe specifically cuz u mentioned they running out of manpower

as seen with 150m total casualties

[heavy vigil]

theyre not out yet

but like most nations are down to 1-2mil reserves at most

[fickle thicket]

give it a few years at most they gonna be out

[heavy vigil]

this war has been like

20 years long now?

[fickle thicket]

gg

[heavy vigil]

first megawar was 1946- july 1959

then this war is december 1959-december 1960 formed into roman faction (so no real majors besides previously beat up countries) and august 62 the USA joined

until now february 1981

[fickle thicket]

so how can your computer handle ts mine craps out when war breaks out

[heavy vigil]

ive crashed like idk maybe 3 times

dont 5 speed

pause if it gets laggy etc

like more than normal

but i also have a good computer

would run better if i deleted old hoi saves...

[fickle thicket]

oh

[slim nexus]

as for the Peace in our Time focus tree pack, I suggest there should be a “Forgotten Factions dlc” that is cheap like 10$ with Ireland, Mongolia (and any faction that had some involvement in the war without being active participants)

[quaint girder]

I am honestly impressed with how strong playing fascist britain is

I have the majority of the world and starting majors capped already

[heavy vigil]

me when i play the strongest path in the game

[terse skiff]

wrong the strongest path is wotjak

[quaint girder]

No I mean I am shocked with how bonkers this is

I tried it as a joke run

[heavy vigil]

theres tons of paths with better atrenght potential

[terse skiff]

yeah but i want bear

[heavy vigil]

but in the real world by the time they get anywhere fascist uk has annexed them

[quaint girder]

But the industry and well, land seizing off majors early is stupid

Only major left is soviet russia

Which will be painful

And italy

[terse skiff]

just don't decolonize uk, that will create infinite lag

[quaint girder]

Oh yeah no I kept everything

[heavy vigil]

i mean the uk starts great

you can partial mob easily, your army is mediocre, your navy is excellent, your airforce is good

[quaint girder]

Its also wild that fighting a civil war makes you stronger

[heavy vigil]

this is also true for paraguay but way more literally

[quaint girder]

Since the strat is, dont bother doing the blackshirt stuff properly and intentionally fire the war

[heavy vigil]

you get more weapons and manpower

[quaint girder]

Then dec on all subjects right before the blue uk caps

Annex all

I might honestly conquer the world

Since the only actual threat really left is russia

Once stalin gives up its just italy and like

Most of the americas, tibet, buthan, nepal, liberia, yugos, romania, turkey greece bulgaria

And the nordic countries

Its gotten to the point the chile is a major

Its chile

[quaint girder]

Paraguay?

Havent played them yet

I am getting to the point where as majors I do competently

[heavy vigil]

they suxk

[quaint girder]

Except for italy

Italy, is weird

[heavy vigil]

but you get gun spawn ins on both sides (so you get guns from winning civil war, and a spawn in unit on your side + free guns to push) and 2500 weekly manpower for ages

[quaint girder]

And dont get me started on trying to understand the purge mechanics for stalin

[heavy vigil]

if you do the civil war side

[quaint girder]

Its a major, but doesnt have the industry to back it up

So it doesnt really play the same

France likely also plays weird but I havent dared touch france yet

[heavy vigil]

in what way is it a major

its similar to china

its like a major if you give it a bit of work

except where china has a decent ish land army you have a navy thats useless

and airforce

[sharp sierra]

after playing so much china anything that starts with more than 2 research slots is a major to me

[worldly sonnet]

I finally did it! My first Spanish civil war win!

[misty fossil]

gg

[maiden verge]

👏 Good job

[worldly sonnet]

Thanks!

[heavy vigil]

man

SAMs are the worst weapon in hoi4

[heavy vigil]

same cost

plane is cheaper in ic but not resources whatever

i can prob make it same resources

this is more accurate

tho ig no self sealing

whatever idc

bad weapon

[vale dagger]

guys i need help

my game keeps crashing idk why

ill send video

[slim nexus]

https://klipy.com/gifs/based-based-department

[fierce peak]

#tech-support

[last elk]

wtf

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[opaque zinc]

Kangaroo

[cursive oxide]

how do i beat the germans as the czehes?

[iron orbit]

why is the ai so stupid?

i've never seen the ai pull off operation sea lion

[maiden verge]

The almighty norwegian horse in mountainous north region

[iron orbit]

lol

[slim nexus]

wonder what Shanxi would get

as Yunnan just got its own subtree

[mellow ibex]

is this a good division? 1942

this is the first time i try light tanks or spgs

[tulip thorn]

no

Far from it

[mellow ibex]

how would i improve it then

[fair horizon]

I DID IT

[iron orbit]

21 organization

you are basically asking to get reinforce memed

[sage karma]

carlist spain lovers

[echo basin]

Hoi4 on mobile when

[mellow ibex]

im on a budget 😭

[echo basin]

It can lwk work

[mellow ibex]

or was on a budget until like 1940

it did work mostly well

[sage karma]

it should work on mobile since it has low pc req

[echo basin]

With what controls phone has hoi4 can work on mobile

[echo basin]

My potato pc can run it

[sage karma]

xbox controller

[echo basin]

Before it exploded

And fried its circus

[iron orbit]

bro u dont want light tanks past 1940

[echo basin]

From trying to run big games

[iron orbit]

they are worthless

[echo basin]

BUT IT COULD RUN HOI4 SMOOTHLY NO BUGS

[mellow ibex]

they work against the ai 🙏

[echo basin]

Soo for that

[mellow ibex]

tbh anything would work against the ai

[iron orbit]

also u dont need that many companies since the division is essentially combat ineffective anyway

[echo basin]

hoi4 on mobile when?

[sage karma]

my potato pc gerforce 1660. it runs most games

[mellow ibex]

what do you mean

[echo basin]

They release a board game they release a new dlc that is same as the zeppelin dissaster

Now we want hoi4 on mobile with dlcs

[iron orbit]

less than 30 org on a tank division renders it worthless since it's basically always bleeding org, so that by the time you put them into battle it retreats before making a difference

[echo basin]

A FULL PORT

WITH MOD OPTION SYPPORT

[mellow ibex]

maybe

it worked fine for me

maybe the ai sucks

[echo basin]

SOO I CAN PLAY TGWR ON MOBI-

Jk

[sage karma]

pc loving kids

[iron orbit]

this is my budget tanks, i designed this in 1939 for italy and it works like a charm even in 1941

italy is too shit to really mass produce good tanks

[fair horizon]

ngl i love the ships spain starts with

[mellow ibex]

howd you get your organization so high?

most tank divisions i can barely get 30 org even when they're really big

at least until i get through mobile warfare doctrine

[mellow ibex]

big italy

this is what i used the tanks for

big anarchist Sweden

[iron iron]

It’s daytime at 8pm

Rn

😭

[iron iron]

Non histrionic

Is so weird

[iron orbit]

You need motorized/mechanized infantry batallions. You should have more mech/motorized than tanks

[iron iron]

England split it

France is communist

Germany is like

5 nations

[iron orbit]

nice

[vital cove]

mech or cav

not motorized

motorized suck

[iron orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-goku-angry-dragon-ball-z-dragon-ball-gif-17464345793826991838

[vital cove]

or camels if you got them

[chrome mulch]

no way that stuff be running hoi4 (unless its cloud based) 💔

😭

crazy

[spiral prawn]

Is this really larping anymore?

[chrome mulch]

'racistpedophile1483' obvious larp

[spiral prawn]

Quick tip maybe transfer some of the files to another file so the items in it are 271

to improve the larp a lil

ok

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[spiral prawn]

theres layers to this I guess

There we go

Like it never happened

[chrome mulch]

nvm

the other guy got banned

[spiral prawn]

So...

You guys play Kaiserreich?

[chrome mulch]

i only have 70 hours on hoi4

im still learning

[ripe slate]

[spiral prawn]

You tried any of the mods yet?

[ripe slate]

^^

[spiral prawn]

Does anyone actually use special projects?

[chrome mulch]

yh

[spiral prawn]

Other than radar of course

[chrome mulch]

i tried fire rises

[ripe slate]

Only nukes/flame tanks

[ripe slate]

any good?

[chrome mulch]

darkest hour

[chrome mulch]

ehh i didnt like th ui

[spiral prawn]

Tfr at 70 hours 💀

[chrome mulch]

i've only played end of a new beginning

[spiral prawn]

I heard the lores really good for larping

[chrome mulch]

but its really unoptimised

[steep rampart]

Can we get a Quebec independent focus tree

[chrome mulch]

nahh i think Australia rework is necessary

[ripe slate]

there is one in Road to 56

[spiral prawn]

Can't wait till they give my country Albania a focus tree

[chrome mulch]

oh yh i played road to 56

[spiral prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/albania-gif-15772705698764907763

[ripe slate]

🤐

[slim nexus]

I only play mods if they are in a different start date

[chrome mulch]

Cant believe they're giving my country AUSTRALIA (GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE UNIVERSE BTW) a REWORK and a WAY BIGGER FOCUS TREE

[steep rampart]

What is that

[cedar lance]

ey m4 im estonian

[spiral prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/hammer-hammering-fix-martin-freeman-gif-5713269

[chrome mulch]

a mod

[steep rampart]

Is it enticing

[ripe slate]

The focus tree should be upside down to be understood, right?

[chrome mulch]

umm i guess

[spiral prawn]

I mean the fact you can't core New Zealand is nuts

[ripe slate]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-rabbit-angry-pistol-pistol-gun-gif-17001523090508176980

[chrome mulch]

wdym

[steep rampart]

Can it run on a toaster of a computer or do I need new stuff

[ripe slate]

it can but it is slightly slower than vanilla

[vital cove]

there are a few good ones

[steep rampart]

My pc is from 2013 and it doesn’t have a graphics card

[chrome mulch]

💀

[spiral prawn]

like?

[slim nexus]

is the pass any worth ?

[steep rampart]

It can run vanilla fine until 1946 but after that it slows down bad

[vital cove]

flame tanks, military engineering vehicle, superheavy battleship, radar, helicopter

few others

[chrome mulch]

cuz late game

[spiral prawn]

Wait military engineering vehicle is good?

Isnt that the first one for land warfare special projects or something?

[steep rampart]

Does it work on Chromebook

[vital cove]

yeah, assault engineers are quite good for offensive units

https://youtu.be/IAP_TalQW-4?si=s-VtRZr4r0eeGjpl

basically watch this

[chrome mulch]

hail nah 💀

chromebook

how do you even run games on that

[spiral prawn]

ok ty

[ripe slate]

lame Australia = upside down joke

[steep rampart]

I can’t

[chrome mulch]

🥀

i use my laptop from 2024 to play games

its not that good but its decent

runs like hoi4 at like 40fps at max speed

[steep rampart]

I cannot afford, I spent all my money on war stuff so I have none left for computers

[chrome mulch]

😶‍🌫️

[cedar lance]

i have saved up 300 euros

[sage plover]

RON is down. time to grind hoi4

[steep rampart]

Save your money, don’t buy ww1 helmets

[chrome mulch]

i only got 10 achievements on hoi4

💔

[sage plover]

</3

[ripe slate]

Ey, thats a good thing

[sage plover]

its gonna take half an hour for my shitty pc to load ron

hoi4*

hoi4 i mean

[ripe slate]

Few achievements means you played with the based mods

[chrome mulch]

base game?

[sage plover]

yeah

i run a 1050ti </3

[spiral prawn]

I got a new pc that can load hoi4 in 15 seconds

[sage plover]

thats a budget graphics card from 1016

[spiral prawn]

Its such a nice feeling

[sage plover]

can you just like, give me that

please

much obliged

[chrome mulch]

i just use some optimization mods which are ironman compatible

[steep rampart]

Is it good to use a full infantry template with every single square of infantry and nothing else for multi layered defensive fallback lines?

[sage plover]

please send me em

[chrome mulch]

alr

[sage plover]

i think thoose are good on massed attack?

[crude schooner]

real ones read the quotes and what the game is loading in

[spiral prawn]

Giraffes are heartless creatures

[steep rampart]

Do you make mods?

[crude schooner]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1427922052081516555/1467426834529386640/togif.gif

[crude schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/biden-joe-biden-microphone-interview-walk-gif-2478024445377708296

[sage plover]

winston churchill has the best quotes

[crude schooner]

yes

(what’s he saying?)

[sage plover]

(nobody knows. it just sounds good)

[steep rampart]

I need somebody to make an Islamic caliphate of Greenland mod

[crude schooner]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1358039991535665282/1358298021963628544/caption-16.GIF

[chrome mulch]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3608064038&searchtext=smooth https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2404689961&searchtext=fps @sage plover

[crude schooner]

“I need”

ts crazy

[sage plover]

cheers mate, lovely

[crude schooner]

my MacBook loads in hoi4 mods better than my pc

[sage plover]

does that allow achivements?

[chrome mulch]

👍

[crude schooner]

let that sink in

[chrome mulch]

yes

[sage plover]

i assume so

just double checking

[steep rampart]

I need it for the betterment of the people of Ireland

[crude schooner]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913618880470065203/1328454295112122500/caption-6-1.gif

[sage plover]

i have went through my pc. and physically changed how it loaded stuff, to optimize it for hoi4

im not even joking

[vital cove]

no

[sage plover]

like, how it renders stuff

[vital cove]

you want 16w inf for defense and 36w for offense

[sage plover]

thats how much i suffer cuz of ts

[steep rampart]

I have a picture of the flag and leader portrait of the Islamic caliphate of Greenland but I think it’d get me banned on this app for posting it

[sage plover]

arnt 18 width good for defence?

just a block of 9/0

[vital cove]

they're better om plains but worse on most other terrains

[sage plover]

thats what i see used most often

ah, alr

[vital cove]

and plains are not good for defense anyways

[sage plover]

netherlands moment

[chrome mulch]

i just spam certain troops depending on the terrain

and do encircling mechanics

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[sage plover]

15 width 6/1's for forest, my beloved

[steep rampart]

Are there any good warhammer 40k mods on steam?

[orchid lily]

Is there a disadvantage in only building carrier aircrafts? They just feel like reg aircrafts but they can also land on carriers

So they have some stat disadvantages?

[vital cove]

they're only good for Japan because japan gets cost reduction for it

otherwise normal aircraft is better

[orchid lily]

Why?

[sage plover]

what is the point of aircraft carriers? ive never used em

unless im given em at the start of the game

i usually just build light cruisers and battle ships

[orchid lily]

I just started a playthrough wanting to try them out

[sage plover]

fair, im just asking in general

[orchid lily]

I've just finished building my first one in 1941 as Italy 💔

Takes so long

[vital cove]

they're more expensive

[sage plover]

id just build a SHBS atp

[orchid lily]

Well when I fight in naval I usually see fleets with carriers sink my screens more easily

[sage plover]

ai or against players?

[orchid lily]

Never played against players sorry

[sage plover]

oh

fair

[orchid lily]

So I wouldn't know mp meta

[sage plover]

me neither ngl

im afraid of multiplayer. if i play multiplayer its w 1-2 ppl that ik

i like to relax when playing games

hoi4 multiplayer seems way to sweaty and comp for me </3

[humble solar]

Anyone wanna play pve?

[sage plover]

what countrys?

[orchid lily]

I wouldn't be able to keep up with others I need my time to plan out my shit 😭

[humble solar]

Germany and ussr

[humble solar]

I am kinda new to this game so putting some hours in it

[sage plover]

same lol

[sage plover]

i assume we would be against eachother?

[humble solar]

umm I don’t think that will be pve then

[sage plover]

thats why i dont play public multiplayer

[sage plover]

i just dont see the soviets and germany team up often lol

[humble solar]

Well wanna play?I can go Germany

[sage plover]

ehh idk, i feel like a tag team of soviets and germany would be abit too op lol

germany would basically be unstopppable

[humble solar]

Well I only have 350 hours in this game😭

[sage plover]

i only have 600

dw </3

[humble solar]

that’s double mine

[sage plover]

hb germany and italy? a casual game

ill be italy

atleast keeps it fair

for the ai

[humble solar]

You take Germany then since your hours are more then mine

Sure I will take Italy

[sage plover]

you sure? if you wanna learn it may be better for you to be at the front

[humble solar]

Sure why

Not

[sage plover]

upto u in the end

alr

vc?

[humble solar]

Yeah

[sage plover]

private or server vc?

[hollow quiver]

server vc

i am using my pc

its 2 different accounts dont mind

[sage plover]

ooh alr

why did you add me then?

[hollow quiver]

misclick

[sage plover]

aight

which oone?

one*

[sudden raptor]

what dlc gives me the ability to design tanks and stuff

[spiral prawn]

Soviet one

[sudden raptor]

💀

[broken pier]

Whats' the best land doctrine for Germany

[sudden raptor]

tonk

[pseudo raven]

Is it good idea, replacing artillery with at as France while still adding aa? all as support companies

[tight zephyr]

Grand battle for Germany i think

[tawny robin]

no step back

[broken pier]

still GBP??

damn

[sudden raptor]

gbp is always best if u have the means to support it

[tawny robin]

would be good against german tanks

[pseudo raven]

I will play mp with friends

[tawny robin]

might be not enough against a player germany though then

[pseudo raven]

Like I on France my friend on Germany

[pseudo raven]

And 2 other noob friends on UK and Italy

[pseudo raven]

So should I do light recon or smth?