hoi4-general

[tender stump]

no clue

[quasi shoal]

it's the supports and line art

[tender stump]

probably all the arty

[quasi shoal]

but why do you have all of those

[little ibex]

Maybe the support.

[quasi shoal]

I know why, but why would you chose to do that

you need war score

[little ibex]

That's the way he like to I guess.

[signal oracle]

I cant be assed to invade every island individually so I declared on them all and added all my puppets for them to do it

every country on the list is mine

[fair horizon]

we need more ship types like we have tank types

[quasi shoal]

you didn't enable puppet war score transfer

so you can't do that

[signal oracle]

💀

[quasi shoal]

:dreamed:

[fair horizon]

no extra research but let them give buffs depending on the picked one

[signal oracle]

so will they not just take it themselves?

[quasi shoal]

huh

[quasi shoal]

they might

[signal oracle]

they didn't 💀 , so I have to do this to every single damn island in the pacific

[little ibex]

Hmm. I don't think they will. Not sure.

[quasi shoal]

it's not that painful

you can plan invasions in advance

[tender stump]

I mean it does the job well and bleeds the enemy a lot even in the rare event that they do manage to push me away

[signal oracle]

I have done everywhere

and hate naval invasions

[fair horizon]

like destroyers could have corvettes, destroyers, minelayers and stuff and get bonuses to specific roles or in the case of corvettes just be way cheaper destroyers

[quasi shoal]

🤷

[tender stump]

also leads to me leading less manpower and units which I for some reason have a big problem with using up, I guess as it allows me to recruit more of the good stuff in masses

[little ibex]

Oh.

[quasi shoal]

get to invading

[signal oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/prigozhin-gif-6889483180864512435

[quasi shoal]

you use up mp cuz no field hospitals

[quasi shoal]

they like kinda do

[tender stump]

no I mean I don't like draining my manpower too much by trainging units
I actually barely take losses when attacked

[quasi shoal]

corvettes aren't in the game but minelayers are

[quasi shoal]

you have 10 mil, how are you losing that much

[tender stump]

wdym loosing that much I ain't loosing shit

[fair horizon]

well sorta, but even to an extent aa cruisers could be a cool one. could do converted merchant cruisers too

[quasi shoal]

you say draining your mp

you shouldn't have it drained if you have 10 mil

[tender stump]

I meant it goes away if I train units

[quasi shoal]

converted merchant cruisers are a thing

[tender stump]

and it gets wasted on cheap units when I could put it in good shit like tank divs

[fair horizon]

only for germany

[quasi shoal]

also why do you have an AA batallion and support AA

[fair horizon]

technically shoots more planes down

[quasi shoal]

yeah but

do you not have enough fighters to do that

[tender stump]

I do by a lot but I simply can

[signal oracle]

Bro.

[tender stump]

plus it is a nice backup

[fair horizon]

well usually i dont because i play bad minor nations but yeah

[quasi shoal]

it's 1973

if you don't have enough fighters by then, you doing sumn wrong

[prisma saddle]

🥀

[fair horizon]

oh lmao i didnt realize it was that guy lmao

[tender stump]

dw I do lol

more than I could ever need

[deep solstice]

Its lowk hard to play any axis nation except for germany / italy now that they nerfed the German AI so much

I wanted to do a Finno Ugria run

but like

I cant feasibly join the war until I have a ton of divisions

because germany is just already losing

and the war started 4 months ago

Germany doesnt even hit minsk now its honestly insane

[manic stag]

bro u cant win as 1939 china

[signal oracle]

Tf do I even do here

[whole matrix]

Should I download that mod

[deep solstice]

Bro what am I looking at

-336% world tension 😭 ??

Saudi arabia EVERYTHING??

[signal oracle]

the world is calm

[signal oracle]

Everything man

[deep solstice]

So basically were in cavemen era 😭 ✌️

[fierce mist]

https://tenor.com/view/1-gif-8606753320538021333

[signal oracle]

Not at all

[deep solstice]

germany when I NEED THEM to win

germany when I play as Finno-Ugria instead of jesus himself to BLESS their army

I CANNOT HELP

😭

[signal oracle]

I CANT DO ANYTHING WITH THIS STUPID GAME

[deep solstice]

WHY IS THERE A PEACE CONFERENCE FOR EACH ISLAND 😭

[signal oracle]

THATS WHAT I AM SAYING

I OWN EVERYTHING

EXCEPT THESE STUPID ISLANDS

AND I HAVE TO INDIVIDUALLY DO EVBERY SINGLE ISLAND

[deep solstice]

bruh like actually I cant play minor axis nations anymore

Germany AI is unironically weaker

than half the minors

in terms of historical accuracy (literal strength)

https://klipy.com/gifs/bro-is-finished-cooked

My empire is fried gng I might just not even join this war 😭 ✌️

Finno-Ugria shouldve stayed down 💔

[signal oracle]

THIS IS BULL

[whole matrix]

Agree, especially Austria

And Hungary

[deep solstice]

The highest IQ possible

🤔

[deep solstice]

the allies arent even IN europe bro

ITALY DO SOMETHING

😭

This is how mustache man probably felt

"ITALY DO SOMETHING" he cries to his officers

[signal oracle]

part of their job description is being special

[deep solstice]

italian battleship

https://klipy.com/gifs/italy-meme

[whole matrix]

Iron curtain

[floral sedge]

what do yall think of this, im a new player and wanted to have higher org and widt, its supossed to be 1939 german light tank division to invade.

[vital cove]

Germany got screwed by the new doctrine system

their picks are pure trash

[vital cove]

its not good. don't use light tanks, don't use line artillery, make tanks divisions 36 width of about half tanks half cavalry/mechanized, don't use motorized recon

[signal oracle]

First ever non-naval main to acknowledge that countries other than Japan, Germany, US and UK had battleships

[deep solstice]

Back in my day, Germany AI could solo the soviet union...

[vital cove]

tbh i would recommend just not playing tanks

[deep solstice]

now, they are just a shadow of the past...

[signal oracle]

What in the hell

[whole matrix]

On historical

[deep solstice]

you could say... a long lost legacy...

https://open.spotify.com/track/5jy9FJWUqjCLtc44sndXoc?si=ad2461e1f2c246b4

[whole matrix]

Where they don't supposed to win

[deep solstice]

Yes this is the french revolution just ignore it

[deep solstice]

I never knew why they were so strong

but they fell of REALLY hard

it used to ACTUALLY be hard to stop them

[floral sedge]

what should i replace/add?

[deep solstice]

No need for cavalry/artillery in a light tank division

[whole matrix]

And they also buffed Britain

[deep solstice]

does no good at that point

[whole matrix]

So landing in Britain is harder now

[floral sedge]

then how do i have org/width?

[deep solstice]

if you need an EARLY light tank division

[floral sedge]

im in 1939 and these are for the benelux most likely

i'll just paradrop poland

[deep solstice]

You could just do a 2x2 of light tanks, with a 2x3 of motorized?

i mean thats cheap and most likely inefficient

but at that stage of the game hell I dont even use tanks

[floral sedge]

no idea what that means mate sorry

[signal oracle]

Replace everything, you dont need Cavalry for anything other than Garrisons and Artillery slows down a tank division a load, try make 9 infantry units, support artillery, support mobile reconnaissance, support engineers and support anti air

[vital cove]

that's not a good idea

[sharp sierra]

i never make a division that has more than like 2 battalions of tanks

[vital cove]

just use your infantry

[steel zephyr]

multiplayer with @sinful beacon

[vital cove]

for both

[steel zephyr]

soviets jumped us but we came back

[whole matrix]

I would do landing in Britain first

[signal oracle]

Holy balls

[whole matrix]

Before attacking soviet union

[signal oracle]

I rep that

[vital cove]

that is not a good division

[floral sedge]

this is my inf

[steel zephyr]

they attacked us silly

[sharp sierra]

think he already said that

[signal oracle]

But maybe not tanks, give him the usual 182 Infantry

[deep solstice]

Never said it was supposed to be

[vital cove]

then why even mention it

[whole matrix]

Way better

[deep solstice]

But if you want multiple tank divisions in 1939

[signal oracle]

Replace the artillery with more infantry

[deep solstice]

what else are you gonna use?

[vital cove]

its not just not good, its horrible

actively griefing

[whole matrix]

It is fine as of rn

[floral sedge]

im on supperior firepower tho

[deep solstice]

you shouldnt be using tank divisions in 1939 😭

[signal oracle]

Point remains

[sharp sierra]

motorized kinda poop

[deep solstice]

at that stage of the game you have SO many better options than using weak light tank divisions

[deep solstice]

Motorized my beloved

[signal oracle]

Suit yourself but would be better, I ain’t telling you what to do, just advice

[vital cove]

i agree, but if you were to use tank divisions in 1939, you can so much better than that

[floral sedge]

so, just stockpile them?

[deep solstice]

basically just better infantry

[vital cove]

you can still do 36w

[deep solstice]

I guess im bias

I normally just put light tank recon in my infantry divisions

as germany especially

[signal oracle]

Better for defense, you want 18w for offense

[vital cove]

the other way around

[sharp sierra]

smaller widths way better at defending

[signal oracle]

Am I tweakin?

[deep solstice]

yeah I'd either put light tanks in your infantry (basically just space marines)

or keep them

and never use light tanks unless in flame companies

medium tanks will always be better in nearly every way

[steel zephyr]

I'm Ostland and he is the reich

[floral sedge]

is my economy good enough for that?

[signal oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-reverse-mw-cod-gif-15517702389221529206

[crisp wyvern]

hey guys, sorry to bother and not know if this is the adequate channel to post this, but why are japan's and manchukuos leaders not popping up, it only says no commander, i already tried disabling all of my mods and it works just fine but the second i enable back on this happens, and most of them are around patch 1.16.1-1.17.0 or 2, they shouldnt cause that much problem, i might try and verify the files of my game to see if that works

their leaders later get replaced by a generic leader

so

idk

[floral sedge]

I have Speer, Goebbels and Hess tho

[deep solstice]

I havent played germany in a long... time

is this bad or good lmao

[crisp wyvern]

maybe it is one of my mods but they arent that old or too troublesome to be causing that much issue

[signal oracle]

What year

[deep solstice]

1939

I think?

[floral sedge]

did organization todt and replaced him with speer

[deep solstice]

its not me asking

[floral sedge]

its 1938

october

[knotty vortex]

i love the german empire

[deep solstice]

I havent played germany since 2 months ago

[signal oracle]

Oh, in 1939 its not even that bad but could be a lot lot better if you want sm

[deep solstice]

so i have no voice

[sharp sierra]

get a 90% collab on france

[whole matrix]

You can also put anti air in

[deep solstice]

anti air support company my actual beloved

I LOVE support anti air

[floral sedge]

i have that

[deep solstice]

especially against the soviets/british

support anti air is so clutch

same thing with ground AA in belgium

free kills tbh

[floral sedge]

btw I always get stuck on belgium, I take the netherlands fairly easily and then I cant breach belgium

[sharp sierra]

do you use mountaineers

[opaque zinc]

Bro this game is so difficult

I wanna play Finland but

I don’t think I wanna play Finland.

[sharp sierra]

finland is super fun

itll make you a better player

[steel zephyr]

Petrozavodsk breakthrough

[whole matrix]

Finland is OO

OP

[opaque zinc]

From what I’ve seen, it’s build infrastructure in the south then mils

[deep solstice]

i started as Estonia

[whole matrix]

Finland can annex all Nordics

[deep solstice]

[floral sedge]

no? I use paradropers in la hague and then cap the netherlands easy, but belgium is impossible

[opaque zinc]

And then it’s cover the front and protect the ports

[uncut pollen]

Last time a played it, it was not fun

[opaque zinc]

With extra divisions in weak spots

[sharp sierra]

last time i played finland

[opaque zinc]

Drain the supply from the soldiers in the north I think

[deep solstice]

the humble "Aggresively execute battle plans"

[deep solstice]

I have always struggled to bypass the maginot without using aggresively execute battle plans

the supply gets SO bad

but its light work if u use aggressive

tbh

[floral sedge]

i tihnk I get atrictioned to hell

[deep solstice]

you do

especially northern France

jesus it gets so bad

just gotta rush it

[whole matrix]

You can try to do landing in North France

[deep solstice]

like real germany

[whole matrix]

Bc once Paris is taken

France capitulates

[sharp sierra]

paratroopers suck tho theyre kinda the worst special forces

[deep solstice]

WIOAHA WOAH W@OAH

[sharp sierra]

the paratroop tank thing is cool but mountaineer stats are so much better

[deep solstice]

I LOVE PARATROOPERS

[sharp sierra]

and marines

[manic stag]

as german

[steel zephyr]

what a frontline...

[deep solstice]

I mean if your American/British

[manic stag]

do i give half of poland in USSR

[deep solstice]

sure you can use marines

[opaque zinc]

Should I be prepared to lose a lot

[deep solstice]

but like dude

[sharp sierra]

nah

[deep solstice]

if your Germany or the USSR

marines are so trash

cant even use em

cuz ur never gonna get dominance

[opaque zinc]

What path should I go for to survive against Soviets really

[sharp sierra]

its abt the doctrines and pioneers

[deep solstice]

actually, no, just minors

[manic stag]

as german do i give half of poland to USSR are do i fight

[deep solstice]

Germany and the USSR can use marines

minors literally will never have a navy for them 😭

[opaque zinc]

I’ve done a little research on Finland it doesn’t seem too difficult but the soviets just have so many divisions

[sharp sierra]

theres also river crossing

[whole matrix]

Do give

[deep solstice]

im slightly outnumbered

[opaque zinc]

Ok

Wow

[deep solstice]

germany

dude what is this

spread your army out

[opaque zinc]

Maybe I should try Finland

[deep solstice]

😭

[opaque zinc]

Should I ally with Germany

[opaque zinc]

Cause bro I just don’t know what I’m doing

[deep solstice]

you will outnumber them... eventually...

[whole matrix]

German supplies are surprisingly good

[opaque zinc]

In my last game I was doing rt56 and I went Portugal and got deadass nothing done cause nothing happens in Portugal

[deep solstice]

its like a 3-6 ratio in every other tile

and then just a FIRE stack of like 50 divisions in north finland

😭

[opaque zinc]

So do I just push southern

[deep solstice]

re-buff germany... only when I play as their ally... please...

[whole matrix]

LOL

[deep solstice]

its so bad 😭

[whole matrix]

Bro, I remember Germany almost lost to Czechoslovakia

[deep solstice]

pretty sure you should be a little closer germany

just a little advice

[sharp sierra]

i make some shit like this every game

[deep solstice]

dear god

soft attack of horror and death

honestly

I use a 2x4 of marines

[sharp sierra]

its abt doctrines and terrain modifiers

[deep solstice]

and then if I need armor, like the US

I use a 1x4 of LVT's

[whole matrix]

Nice

[deep solstice]

the stats are actually hilarious

its like 75% attack on amphibious landings

and they just shred anything

[steel zephyr]

closer to murmansk than minsk 🥹

[deep solstice]

the breakthrough hits are crazy if you get the timing right on weather too

[whole matrix]

So, this is what was used in day d

[uncut pollen]

Is that something Forbidden?

Same with here

[deep solstice]

I am playing AXIS finland

if the germans lose

I AM FRIED

[flint wyvern]

Who are you

[opaque zinc]

Also this is real dumb but how do I make my map look like that

[old maple]

so finished the civil war like 2 months ago

[opaque zinc]

I see it in videos and it looks soooo pretty

[deep solstice]

the high realm of latvia

https://klipy.com/gifs/bro-is-finished-cooked

[sharp sierra]

uh i have this astizels map mod its called

[opaque zinc]

I just don’t know the settings for it

[deep solstice]

Livonia*

[opaque zinc]

Oh it’s a mod

🤵‍♂️

[sharp sierra]

ironman capable and everythng

[old maple]

how do I get my ws and st up

[deep solstice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274532112615215180/1276411776405340253/togif.gif

[deep solstice]

decisions and prayers?

[old maple]

bouta have the 3rd us civil war then

[quasi shoal]

decisions

and maybe a focus idk

[whole matrix]

"Socialist republic of Kurdistan"

[uncut pollen]

I meant the Swastikas

[deep solstice]

oh you might be right

[old maple]

alr

[deep solstice]

ill delete it just incase

[old maple]

so glad thousands of germans italians and spaniards died in that cw for this very stable nation

[sharp sierra]

swat stickers

[uncut pollen]

For the next time pls remember it

[sharp sierra]

anyone see hatless spiders communist china strat

for the battle royale achievement

[signal oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/prigozhin-gif-6889483180864512435

[opal nymph]

Paradropping france is a tried and tried method

[knotty vortex]

bro my game keeps crashing

[azure walrus]

should I use italian light tanks in the unification of the baltics(as latvian military directorate) ?

[knotty vortex]

i was doing so good

invading the uk as monarchist germany

and it just keeps crashing now

[signal oracle]

Anything specific

[knotty vortex]

nope it just tells me my game crashes

i did notice a bug

where when assigning an admiral at a dockyard thing

the little box with the green arrow

only took up 1/4 of the actual size and was in the top right

and when i clicked it

my game crashed

so maybe it corrupted my save?

[signal oracle]

Idk man, try #tech-support

[knotty vortex]

i mean i’m not that fussed if it only messed up that save

just hope the rest of the game is fine

[signal oracle]

Lucky it didn’t happen late game, I lost a 1997 game to it

[knotty vortex]

why would you even do that

[deep solstice]

"hi guys im the high realm of livonia and today im gonna be invading the USSR"

insert white flag picture

[ember vine]

I have enough of this waiting game

Nah its just random

He literally could die anytime

He was sick

Yeah awesome stability and everything goes to ruin, many Turks are sad very awesome

I respect Ataturk

Maybe

[craggy dove]

some doctorines are missing for me like th SPG one. Where do i find it?

[quasi shoal]

do you have ncns

[craggy dove]

no

is it exclusive?

[quasi shoal]

yes

ncns adds a few more doctrines

[neat kayak]

VIVA LA FRANCE!

[steel zephyr]

what a frontline though

[cedar monolith]

anyone know why i cant invade?

[azure walrus]

yowza

[fair horizon]

no naval supremacy

[cedar monolith]

but why? i have 1700 nd dominance worth or task force on patrols there, and cuba has 11 convoys...

[fair horizon]

it takes time to build up also it seems like you might have the bug where they patrol but dont produce naval supremacy

[cedar monolith]

cool, restart my client, its bugging, its been three months

[fair horizon]

yeah

im angry about it too

[cedar monolith]

ty ty

need to peer review and make sure im not missing a mechanic

[fair horizon]

everything looks to be in order

[cedar monolith]

yeah, i was getting frustrated, like how is the florida coast contested by a nation with no alliance, guarantees or navy? lmao

[gleaming temple]

Can someone teach me how to play hoi4 1936

[fair horizon]

im crying rn

[ember vine]

Europe just got democracized

[neat kayak]

Onwards

[cedar monolith]

still not working, but i have ND here so i flipped the invasion, still aggrivating

[fair horizon]

check the base of where the fleet is located

it might be like on the west coast or something

[quasi shoal]

bruh

thank you ethiopia

they capped

fuh

[ember vine]

Free state of Slovakia as chinese puppet

[warped flint]

Any tips for this achievement?

[warped flint]

If you ever get low on manpower take dessi

its a core

[fair horizon]

did changing the base work?

[steel zephyr]

latvia is SO back

[cedar monolith]

yeah, i can at least launch this time, if i get repelled again ill know

[azure walrus]

no ironman

?

this time>/

?'

[warped flint]

does ostland make you a puppet?

[azure walrus]

no

[steel zephyr]

im in mp

[azure walrus]

ah

cool

[steel zephyr]

no, and im in mp with german player

[quasi shoal]

I should prolly do that

[warped flint]

Also move a division on dire dawa

its a supply hub

and it would starve the italians

[steel zephyr]

germany focussed on fighting allied landings in western europe so im in charge of crushing soviets

[quasi shoal]

it won't

they have barely any divs here now and they have addis ababa

[warped flint]

oh, in my games they had like 20 divs around

but that was a long timeago

versions maybe messed with it

[steel zephyr]

YOOOOO

[quasi shoal]

once ethiopia capped they moved most of them away

now they have 2 irregular, one tank, one militia, one cavalry

[warped flint]

holy shit ethiopia is actually cooking

they were in eritea but got pushed back

Its almost 1937

[crystal marsh]

this reminds me of a song

[cedar monolith]

all good, successful landing too

[quasi shoal]

and mine caps in like mid '36 bruh

[warped flint]

Its non historical

[quasi shoal]

which of these shold I go

[deep solstice]

"hi my name is stalin and I fight for all the single mothers across the world"

[quasi shoal]

prolly indigenous models right

[warped flint]

I forgot what these gave

[deep solstice]

Turns out the finnish CAN fight

[warped flint]

Anyone give manpower?

[deep solstice]

my goal is to encircle them right here

and cut all northern supply

then just take ALL of it

[quasi shoal]

nope

[deep solstice]

germany and italy an handle all this

im sure

[fair horizon]

what map mod is that?

[deep solstice]

https://klipy.com/gifs/nervous-gulp-nervous-glup

[deep solstice]

Vintage Map Mod

[quasi shoal]

alright now they should starve

[fair horizon]

ty

[quasi shoal]

I shouldn't have asked for mil access earlier

that might've ruined the game

[steel zephyr]

😭 tanna tuva fabricating mp from air

[deep solstice]

finnish air force of ACTUAL death and pain

[opal nymph]

Portrait of Marx too OP

[neat kayak]

🙂

[warped flint]

what can you do to win this civil war faster

this is actually sorta difficult

[deep solstice]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ishowspeed-meme

[quasi shoal]

ethiopia made units lesgooo

[deep solstice]

are you communist france?

[old maple]

kinda weird how im calling it a greta victory when im an italian ally

[fair horizon]

naval invasions

take sao paul and rio and the one town next to uruguay

employ the horse division tactic too

[steel zephyr]

💀

[fair horizon]

are you chile?

[warped flint]

so annoying how its 50 days for a naval invasion

[fair horizon]

oh i didnt even think about how bad it is now

you can also use the focuses to get mils i guess

[sly venture]

incircled by Dagestan 🥀

[strong belfry]

khabib's army

[quasi shoal]

time to farm italy causualties

for the next 100000 years

[dusky burrow]

Italy only has enough people for like 5 years of war

[quasi shoal]

hopefully

[floral sedge]

f###k this

dumbass mussolini

i was so happy i finally took the benelux for the first time

AND THEN

I LOOK DOWN

AND IM BEING INVADED BY FRANCE

who took half of italy territory

instant alt f4

[opal nymph]

Hitler in the fuhrerbunker moment

At least he waited until the Soviets were at Berlin

[quasi shoal]

jesus

[opal nymph]

Yikes

[signal oracle]

Rookie numbers

[quasi shoal]

and this is all from when I was attacking to see if I could actually take ethiopia back

[warped flint]

@fair horizon thanks it worked

I was getting destroyed

[floral sedge]

look at this (it didnt save the benelux invasion)

i cant take one month off to invade norway tha mussolini just explodes

[quasi shoal]

going better than I thought

[dusky burrow]

Yeah you have to defeat France now

But should be easy enough

and you can invade norway later

[quasi shoal]

norway is not really necessary

tbh

[opal nymph]

I have never saw a need to invade Norway

Sweden has a direct land route to you via Denmark

[quasi shoal]

only reason I can think is if you can't get to england through the channel

[opal nymph]

Wilhelmshaven is all you need for that

[dusky burrow]

norway is sueful though

useful

[opal nymph]

Norway can give you extra civs via a focus

[dusky burrow]

via the focus that also gives you war goal

[floral sedge]

idk

[warped flint]

8 civs

[floral sedge]

idk how i broke the maginot before belgium

[warped flint]

so pretty decent

probably worth it

[floral sedge]

is this decent for 1941?

[snow rain]

depends as who and in which scenario + what factory composition
also, imprt coal already

[floral sedge]

Gemrany

[snow rain]

then yeah, it's good, if you haven't capped the UK that is

if you have capped the UK you're about 100+ factories behind but it's no biggie in singleplayer, especially since No UK means no DDay

[deep solstice]

"I dont WANNA go AROUND it. I wanna go THROUGH it."

[lilac glen]

That's a lot of red bubbles

[deep solstice]

atleast half of them arent mine

the other half? I can spare the manpower

[lilac glen]

😭😭😭

[deep solstice]

50k casualties 2 months ago btw

I have an idea!

[snow rain]

mot divs, bad idea indeed

[lilac glen]

1 cavalry divisions

[deep solstice]

1943 aswell

makes it extra spicy

[floral sedge]

uhm

[hoary glen]

I bought all the DLCs any country recommendations

[lilac glen]

Germany

[azure walrus]

germany, italy, lithuania, kumul khanate

[azure walrus]

peru

👍

[old maple]

Anyone know what caused me to flip from CSA to Free American Empire (I didnt do a decision for it)

[lilac glen]

This game is such a freaking mystery to me

[azure walrus]

paradox's amazing coding capabilities

i think

[old maple]

Fasc America

[old maple]

Alr it just randomly happened as I captured North Africa for italy

[quasi shoal]

yooo how do I get better as italy bro 🥀

[azure walrus]

have you tried sending all of your divisions

to ethiopia

[lilac glen]

I am struggling to beat Scandinavia as Germany while people do world conquest wih freaking Tannu Tuva 😭 😭 😭

[quasi shoal]

nah man

[azure walrus]

oh youre aussa

i thought you were italy

?

[quasi shoal]

I was making a joke

[azure walrus]

ah

icey

[quasi shoal]

that was the joke

[deep solstice]

I cant find the video

it was some dude commanding his entire army straight into the maginot line

[dusky burrow]

Aussa is actually pretty easy

[quasi shoal]

you can break the maginot pretty easily with the right divs

[dusky burrow]

Recruit a guy with commando

[quasi shoal]

assuming ethiopia doesn't sell

(they did)

[dusky burrow]

And then just act as a fire brigade for Ethiopia

[dusky burrow]

Yeah, assuming they did not

[deep solstice]

you got this italy!!

I believe in you!!

[quasi shoal]

they died almost as quickly as I can beat them as a player italy

[deep solstice]

Im not gonna help, just gonna watch

[lilac glen]

Spoiler: They didn't.

[dusky burrow]

Sell? as in boarding the train?

[deep solstice]

bro I need this 😭

flags

forgot

italy plz

I need this

my border is kinda undefended

I live with my 31 and losing I wanna help her out

[old maple]

Gotta love 3 way wwii (I CANT GET ANY RUBBER)

Japan pearl harboured me after I joined the axis so no rubber for me :(

[tepid crown]

Do air craft conversion

[deep solstice]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-monday-left-me-broken-cat

[quasi shoal]

im crine bruh why do we have the same flag

tf

denmark signed a whitepeace with me

and cuz of that ethiopia got one of my tiles

[dusky burrow]

which other country, I know you're Aussa

Oh, Oman?

[deep solstice]

war started 3 months ago in game

btw

is 0 manpower the newest hoi4 strategy

[warped flint]

If I go to war with uruguay will the US join?

im brazil

[deep solstice]

are they guaranteed?

[warped flint]

no but monroe doctrine

wait colonial powers it says

[quasi shoal]

huh

[warped flint]

so I dont think it matters if I attack right?

[dusky burrow]

No

If your capital is outside the western hemisphere the event triggers

But in effect you have 20 days

[quasi shoal]

almost a million italy causualties can we do it?

[dusky burrow]

So you can conquer most of the Central American countries one by one

Just make sure to use actually good marines and not 10-widths

[warped flint]

Oh so I should be fine

[dusky burrow]

Which country are you?

[quasi shoal]

ITALY JOINED WW2 IM FREEE

[warped flint]

Brazil

[dusky burrow]

Oh yeah

You're free asf

Just beware the Democratic countries may join the Allies

So take them first

[quasi shoal]

should I do vichy france war

[warped flint]

Allies doesnt exist luckily

[dusky burrow]

Oh

Uh...

[warped flint]

just the american commonwealth then

[dusky burrow]

Once you get Ethiopia

[deep solstice]

listen

I dont wanna blame you

but

[dusky burrow]

Well, they could join that instead

[deep solstice]

I think I have to take this out on someone

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274532112615215180/1276411776405340253/togif.gif

[dusky burrow]

You're the Americans? You could always make loads of mountaineers + jet fighter 3s

[deep solstice]

Im Finland.

Axis. Finland.

[quasi shoal]

yaya

[deep solstice]

Meat grinder. Finland.

https://klipy.com/gifs/bro-is-finished-cooked

its over bro I might just quit now

ITALY ITS ALWAYS YOU

[warped flint]

bro the axis is gonna get so op

[dusky burrow]

Rangers then

[warped flint]

russia is gonna get steamrolled

[deep solstice]

lowk, I know this is like stupid

[lilac glen]

https://tenor.com/view/dobby-disappear-snap-harry-potter-gif-11844471

[deep solstice]

I didnt want this run to end

so I honestly just annexed Britain with a console command

[lilac glen]

Massive L

unteleports

[deep solstice]

im very dissapointed

to be fair, I was actually mid sea lion

I just didnt wanna wait the like 2-3 weeks to cap them

[lilac glen]

https://tenor.com/view/l-so-huge-that-luigi-had-to-come-out-the-l-door-gif-6947936071374036649

[deep solstice]

since im SURE italy would find a way to capitulate by then

[deep solstice]

Luigi why would you do this to me

[azure walrus]

is this worth it atp

[quasi shoal]

I have as much war participation as the uk

[deep solstice]

bros also playing Estonia

boi

[azure walrus]

im playing latvia actually

(tuff flag)

[deep solstice]

yo

why did the allies just cap

but not america

hey wait a second

[quasi shoal]

@heavy vigil 🔥

[deep solstice]

something seems a little off

[quasi shoal]

ts took way too long it's 1940

[lilac glen]

L so massive even HOI4 broke

[deep solstice]

what just happened :sob

[deep solstice]

you convinced me to reload a save

so I capped them normally

like I said i was really close

[warped flint]

Bro brazil is actually fun

[deep solstice]

and it just decolonized them and early-ended the war

[lilac glen]

Just reset, bro, it's over

[warped flint]

you get cores on south america I have 32 mils

[lilac glen]

https://tenor.com/view/7days-to-end-with-you-its-joever-crying-gif-27677595

[warped flint]

everything I invade I get core attack buffs

[fair horizon]

build a ship in my name

[deep solstice]

I actually dont know what just happened

I mean

[warped flint]

Ill put it as your favorite thing

[deep solstice]

ill take the land..?

[warped flint]

Destroyer!

[past wharf]

Hi guys, I'm new. I need help, I wanna to invade Poland but I always end up losing, can anyone help me?

[deep solstice]

Wait dude when I capped britain it decolonized them

so america is still the allies

[quasi shoal]

do you have air and tanks?

[deep solstice]

and so are all the other allies

[random snow]

1 aircraft carrier really pisses them off i guess

[deep solstice]

they are just decolonized without britain

which broke the game 😭

[fair horizon]

you wound me

[fair horizon]

tell them to shove it

[random snow]

as i should

[warped flint]

its a meta design

[past wharf]

It's my first week playing, and I'm still not sure what I need to improve in terms of tanks and planes. I have several Panzers, but I always end up losing anyway.

[fair horizon]

no its not, engine 1?

[warped flint]

thats all I got

[fair horizon]

cringe

[warped flint]

im only building one

[fair horizon]

i hope it explodes

[heavy vigil]

what year

[quasi shoal]

1940 💔

[heavy vigil]

same

[quasi shoal]

now I can finally trade for steel omg

[heavy vigil]

i just learned that the take control of african holdings focus doesnt check for occupyer

[quasi shoal]

im late '40

[warped flint]

Should I be able to kill argentina with 24 divs?

[fair horizon]

start a war with portugal

[quasi shoal]

historical is hell bro ydek

[fair horizon]

yes

[warped flint]

Serious?

They kinda scare me

like right here is scary

[fair horizon]

their divs are like 4 infantry or some crap

[quasi shoal]

almost

[fair horizon]

you should roll over them

[warped flint]

Holy

[fair horizon]

make more divs if you're worried

[warped flint]

Their instantly last standing

[fair horizon]

lmao

[warped flint]

I got decent stats considering this is a river crossing

[deep solstice]

look at this bruh 😭

they all joined the comintern now

because they stayed at war while being decolonized

[fair horizon]

lampiao looks so weird without sigma of iron

[heavy vigil]

fdsdgwrfgasdjhuifr

ui hate

frontlines

[heavy vigil]

no

[deep solstice]

look how much I got though

[warped flint]

bro they keep last standing

[deep solstice]

I let germany keep enough to still stay strong

[neat kayak]

End of the run

[deep solstice]

and just basically took some of Africa, and my claims on the nordic

[quasi shoal]

noooo italy got to 100k kills

before I got to 1m

[heavy vigil]

im about to crash out

[quasi shoal]

dude

istg

I have 4x the land combat dmg of the uk

yet they have 2.5x my war score

[deep solstice]

dear god

see this issue, with that weird annex thing that just happened

was because I took ALL of britain with my paradrops

all the american troops on territory I took

are now just

everywhere

I have never had anything like that happen since ive started this game

I guess im fighting communist allies and the north american coalition now

[lilac glen]

Another massive L

Should I call Luigi?

[deep solstice]

What do you want me to do tell canada "no you cant join stalin and oppose me"

[lilac glen]

Hmmmmm... git gud?

[deep solstice]

so seriously

do you know why this happened?

[lilac glen]

Hell nah 😭

How am I supposed to know? I am still trying to cap Britain for the first time

[deep solstice]

damn

the only thing I could think of

is that because of the path I took

which naturally messes up the "regular" history

and because of the fact I took ALL british territory instantly

including northern ireland

it mightve messed up the Peace deal

?

[lilac glen]

What hacking does to a mean

Cheating

Dirty cheater

[deep solstice]

and then because only britain, not the entire allies cap'd , it broke the "normal allies"

[deep solstice]

keep in mind

I NORMALLY capitulated britain

with paradrops

[lilac glen]

Cap

[deep solstice]

how else do YOU cap britain

friggin marine boi

[lilac glen]

Ur not fooling nobody, Knight

[lilac glen]

Paradrops

[deep solstice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274532112615215180/1276411776405340253/togif.gif

[deep solstice]

https://klipy.com/gifs/smiley-face-sad

[heavy vigil]

i capped saf in 40

but im tired

[lilac glen]

I can't get air superiority

[deep solstice]

keep in mind he already bullied me into refreshing my save

[lilac glen]

That's why I haven't capped them yet

[deep solstice]

the humble 2 engine 2x4 light machine gun fighter plane

[heavy vigil]

not using good doctrines btw

[floral sedge]

Why is mussolini so useless

[deep solstice]

I love this plane

like my child

[lilac glen]

Nothing else? Lol

[quasi shoal]

I have desp defense bruh

[lilac glen]

Fair point tho

[quasi shoal]

ts is what I have

[lilac glen]

I can't get 6k planes

[deep solstice]

I dont know how

but dude

it works

[deep solstice]

any plane before 1942

just gets ANNIHILATED by that design

[heavy vigil]

but i wanted guerrilla war

[deep solstice]

you can go 1-5 against BRITAIN with that design in 1940

[floral sedge]

How do I get air superiority over britain?

[heavy vigil]

youre using actually good doctrines

[deep solstice]

look at the poor soviet air force

[quasi shoal]

why do you have no armor

[floral sedge]

like how many planes are needed (plus british chanel)

[deep solstice]

its also REALLY spammable because its cheap

[quasi shoal]

or engine 3

[lilac glen]

Fym soviet air force

There's 96 planes

[deep solstice]

I wonder why..

[heavy vigil]

but its bad

[lilac glen]

Knight is saying it shreds anything pre 1941

I trust him

[neat kayak]

And the exiles are dealt with

[deep solstice]

no like its just so cheap its crazy

[lilac glen]

💂

[neat kayak]

Super fun run

[deep solstice]

you can literally get 1000 of these planes in no time

[neat kayak]

and extremely overpowered

[heavy vigil]

ai planes are worse ive seen them

but that plane still sucks

[deep solstice]

its never let me down

what would you even add?

that doesnt double the cost

[lilac glen]

Real

[heavy vigil]

better engine, heavy machine guns, armor plates/self sealing

[lilac glen]

I really can't get air superiority over Britain

[azure walrus]

why lord why :sob

[deep solstice]

are heavy mg's really worth it?

[lilac glen]

I literally do this

[deep solstice]

you also have to research better parts aswell

[warped flint]

should I go for axis or common wealth of natios first

[lilac glen]

And it's not enough to get air superiority

[deep solstice]

I just mean, if you get light mgs, engine II, and a plane II body

it is so cheap, quick to research

hell germany starts with the damn thing

[lilac glen]

The Allies have just too many fighters

[deep solstice]

best way to cut numbers

[heavy vigil]

yes

[deep solstice]

put your planes over your own country

[quasi shoal]

yes

[deep solstice]

like around here

and then put level 5 AA all over the coast

[heavy vigil]

germany gets engine 3 literally for researching improved

[deep solstice]

and the AI planes will naturally go over, and then get shot down by AI

[heavy vigil]

armor plates too

[lilac glen]

Literally 60 factories dedicated to "good" fighters isn't enough

I will go for cheap and plenty

Next time I play, of course

My PC is broken

[deep solstice]

oh yeah btw

[inland falcon]

i'm convinced half of the stats in this game are just made up bullshit that doesn't actually affect anything

[deep solstice]

I missed a pocket in the UK

like

I missed a division in scotland

[lilac glen]

MASSIVE SKILL ISSUE

[deep solstice]

and they came

all the way down

https://klipy.com/gifs/ishowspeed-meme

[lilac glen]

https://tenor.com/view/sesame-street-jbtzxclsv-take-al-lost-loser-gif-14425635

[deep solstice]

I just paradropped, cap'd them, saw the peace treaty

and then put all my divisions back on the soviet front

I look back

[warped flint]

?

[deep solstice]

HALF THE UK is liberated

[deep solstice]

axis bc evil bad

[quasi shoal]

you're south america right

prolly commonwealth of nations

[warped flint]

Yeah

[quasi shoal]

since you have a land border and they have a lot of stuff

[deep solstice]

I guess without the UK having no land it actually just deleted the allies

lmao

[lilac glen]

Oh wait really?

I joined the wrong side

[quasi shoal]

soviet front in '42

[warped flint]

Finnaly I can build air

[quasi shoal]

I must've really destroyed the axis with the italy manpower draining

[lilac glen]

Where are the pixels?

[quasi shoal]

huh

oh

that's just cuz I was zoomed all the way out

you don't need them anyways

is this better

[lilac glen]

I couldn't even read the countries names

[lilac glen]

Yep lol

[quasi shoal]

you can guess tho

you can read bulgaria

also soviets got to german border by early '42 lol

[azure walrus]

nonaligned europe, very good

[amber matrix]

everyone loves turkey

[ember vine]

Let me guess you play as greece

[azure walrus]

I love turkey!

(as long as they go ottoman)

(otherwise theyre lwk annoying)

[half onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-thanksgiving-bird-appalled-confused-gif-12022580758212738730

[azure walrus]

so can the ussr still demand the baltic annexations if its at war

[half onyx]

I dont think so...

[azure walrus]

great

because as the latvian military directorate I dont really have an easy way to gain manpower

also does the japanese shogunate(ncns not owned) typically defeat the ussr

in its weird 1937 war

[half onyx]

No clue

[azure walrus]

alr

also poland wtf is that peacedeal

ah yes my favorite

[cedar kite]

they always do that for soem reason

[azure walrus]

is this plane good(brits gave to me)

[amber matrix]

no

[heavy vigil]

its a plane

it probably can fly

[azure walrus]

well technically

[deep solstice]

would you rather not be the worst major AI in the game yes or no?

[azure walrus]

the brits gave me a plane and i modified it

[heavy vigil]

its decent for an interwar plane

[deep solstice]

thats like actually funny

[quasi shoal]

yay

vichy francec joined the axis

[azure walrus]

will it beat poland

[quasi shoal]

so I gott djibouti

[deep solstice]

Why is germany AI the worst in the game

seriously

[heavy vigil]

the polish planes might genuinely be better but they make like none

[deep solstice]

6.5 million casualties TO the soviet union?

[heavy vigil]

i wouldnt do air tho

[deep solstice]

and you only flicted 2.5 MILLION?

[quasi shoal]

lmfaoo

[half onyx]

I mean its good, the extra turret and navigation is just meh

[deep solstice]

4 MILLION NEGATIVE

[half onyx]

really meh

[deep solstice]

TO THE SOVIET ONION

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191157234261033150/1402045900876156948/togif.gif

why does germany have 400k casualties inflicted against america, only took 38K

[azure walrus]

these here mios worth getting or nah

[deep solstice]

but have 2.5 million againt the soviets

and took 6.5 million

[half onyx]

just goated

[half onyx]

meat grinder

only took 38k because those were the last ones left then I guess

[deep solstice]

its just crazy to me how bad they made the german AI

I mean a 4 million negative

to the soviet union

is absolutely insane

[half onyx]

yup...

[viral shuttle]

rate the encircement

[deep solstice]

I have had my army attacking for a year straight

I am finland

I am using terrible divisions because my research was awful up until 1942

dont even HAVE medium tanks

[quasi shoal]

late '42

[deep solstice]

and your telling me with a straight face

that im 1:1 against the soviets

[quasi shoal]

ig my italy causualty farming paid off