#hoi4-general
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paraguay can really be annoying to invade
use CAS
also take brasil first
I need therapy after gfx
do you have arms against tyrany?
yes
sweden can be fun
you do modding right son?
I recon you from modding channel
i myself am not modding? do you mean play modded?
I see
well yeah
play
i may have send once or twice something on accident in the modding channel but i do not mod
just try to not get cooked by finland. they can be sometimes really annoying
Yeah
also do the monarchist path
👍
resolving the problem of ecuador existing rq
Has anyone found Germany AI to have gotten a lot worse this update?
They’re so weak it’s kinda sad
That’s sick man just woke up haha
its a bhit weird japan has the carrier doctrine equipped as default when they historically literally used the decisive battle doctrine
Im a new player, I have all the dlcs and play in civilian, i can take poland fairly easy anda have a basic knowledge biut the game. I take the netherlands and i cant get past belgium
div...
No supply
This is the port from where u get supply from
Help tho
What’s the question ur asking
The answer is most likely skill issue though
And/or having no supply
I think thats why he is asking for help.
Well he just says he is new and can’t get past Belgium
Not much I can do without more knowledge
i take the netherlands fairly easy, i model tank templates give them to rommel and only invade belgium with 24 troops. (Plus 11ish tanks) for some reason i cant break in
i reached the 200h mark on hoi4
i reached the 800 hour mark on hoi4
just invade them
How do I get naval dominance without using patrol tho
Use air force to gain more
reached 6 years playing this game
I set them on
Naval strike force or whatever
Still didn’t work
5*
Perfect
femboy erwin rommel 🔥
also anyone knows why millennium dawn keeps crashing when i try to play it?
thanks
yessir
im playing commie czechkoslovakia, i havae puppeted austria and hungary and at war with axis. But now soviet union declared on poland and allies. Like should i let soviet union die and then like puppet everything around me to then just build an big airforce to kill allies or what am i supposed to do?
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GOT SOME LADS ON
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NON HIST EVERYONE WELCOME
vanira
mods get ts guy
well i would post in alt history but there is a 50 year text ban befroe u can speak again
yea undertsanbale sorry
sheep
rommel carries
what mod lets erwin rommel lead germany
tuff
you attack
did you decide to make anything other than mils?
the soviets arent gonna be happy with this one
Yaay I capped the Allies as Luxembourg
the
help plsssss
damnnnnn fr on yo mama?
the
the what
the the
tell me!!!
Hold on let me launch the game back, it craches
i genuinely have no idea i just thought the was a funny thing to reply with

no, forts get put there automatically through focuses
how am i supposed to attack
when my units are defending
and losing
whats your army and IC looking like
it looked like you just had nothing out
you know germany will attack you like mid 38
Genuinely
What happened in Spain with historical ai off
What happens
I see vids of 18 different spains all in a civil war with sabotaged
Each other
Idk why it said sabotaged
i had 55 units
of 18 width inf
with art and engi
ok so why do you need so much inf
like i get having maybe idk 4 per tile
i dont think thatd be 55?
more like 48 MAX ish
infantry is good, it can hold
but it wont win you the war
i also forgot to tell you youll probably need some AA
line in tanks, support in inf
which is on me
absolutely top tier border gore
You can see where my capital is
is this hoi4 or with mods?
No paratroopers btw
Same
I’m 100
Percent
Going to
Tomorrow
I only use one mod and that is instant war
I’m not bothered to use focus trees n shit
For war goals
Just play with no ironman and type allowdiplo in the console at this point
I don’t user Ironman
I got 0 achievements
I’m still meh at the game
I can conquer Europe as Germany including uk
But their easy
USSR I always fail with
Nice
I just created a collab government(using spies)
They allow to cal it much earlier
Only problem was uk is
Naval
Invasion is kinda hard for superior
Naval
Usually I go into the 1936 as Germany get. A few more divisions and invade them before the year ends
France does join a few months after you invade them (slow process since not much troops)
what do you struggle with?
Everything vro
Beats me anyways I usually don’t take that path
Usually take balkans and go through turkey and take all those countries
And Africa ig
Kill japan attack on two fronts,build up supply
But taking Britain gives you Africa
eco?
This varies on country well I would say the easiest nation is the uk
How do I invade Japan vro
Uk is pretty es
Need like 30 divisions
Around their
For me
Copy irl usa do operation downfall instead of nukes
make mils
I always do
No this varies on nation line imagine spamming out Mills day 1 as USA
alright thats good enough just dont make anything else and youll be better than idk 40-50% of hoi players
thats fine
I mean usa is the easiest country to play
I’m good but bad ig
What country are you playing
Always Italy or Germany
My bad for
Taking photo
Of minister
Monitor
This was kind jokes run
I was physically trying to get as MUCH land as possible
This was like a week ago right now I’m trying to restore Rome
Build civs till u have 50 for focus then build mills
Squad of goons :Goebells(Todt switch after org Todt to speer) todt
Okey dokie
only 1 civ
schluss gives you the rest
After I'm done doing soviet I'm playing as Bulgaria
This isn’t me but that’s the empire
And while playing as Italy
Benito get kicked out of government
Is that a bad thing
My stability was like 80 percent
When should u start ww2 as germany I mean how long can u wait till ur economy goes to crap
So idk
you dont wanna wait too long anyway? ideally early to mid 38
38 💀
I can take uk France Poland Sweden Norway Yugoslav by late 1940 (starting in 1939)
And if I’m trying to rebuild an empire is their a way to use commands to just take a state not a whole country
Not using commands for Rome I just wanna do it for the ottamons
Should I play tank only Bulgaria or do a proper germany 🤔
And as Austria bro how do you not get clapped by Germany
I take Hungary as Austria whatever
Then Germany just eats me
you have very strong militia buffs
utilize them
Is their any way to just
Not get attacked
joining any faction bypasses anschluss
still no capitulation
@plucky agate join
nah man
how do i get 1.17
vc
what general do you like most? My is Karl Donz bc i love fleet
perm
last version
what mod are you using
rto56
Hi guys
soon egyptian offensive into lybia
peak tag
w
whats ur unit
o i was expecting something rtarded
<@&846894118219022336> scam alert?
I mean its a gif
Is it recommended to buy no compromise, no surrender and trail of alliance? (My only missing Dlc)
I’m so tired rn 🤦♂️
Haha its a gif so its fine, thanks for being alert anyway
IK just tired af
Go to sleep
me when the british naval invade italy for the 492nd time
More dlcs is always fun... its just if the countries added ate worth it to you. Between those two no compromise no surrender is the better one to get tho
does mechanized infantry use fuel while defending?
yeah
how can i make my own locally produced fuel if they took all my routes?
refineries produce a bit
hello guys how r u
me good thanks
why isnt it naval dominating
unclaimed nitro in hoi general for 30 minutes is real
I am just bad at getting asleep
And should get somehow 10hrs of sleep
Until 7am tomorrow
whtas wrong with them my fleets i have air in the tiles and theyre have fuel and max training experience and port nearby
respect on guandong
cuz its 1950 what are you DOING bro
forced to hire the rat
i can switch back to nonaligned after getting strasser in charge right>?
Real talk who does this
People that can use navy
I always do the midget Submarine
@fair isleNo begging
please speed I need this
I can’t keep watching Dante
😭 ✊
Its a game, one that very often goes on sale
Wallahi I live In murica with Canadian friends
I’m hopeless
✊ 😔
can i have any advice for taking the fascists out as greece
Too eepy to give a rational reply
Wanna have some of my energy?
As long as you mean literal and not energy drink which Id never do
nope
not an energy drink
i hate energy drinks
Dawg your still on the playthrough 😭
What year is it 😭
1953
I released Italy (communist) and tried to invade
to raise wt
I annexed them but wt wasnt high enough
and now it fell all the way back down to 7%
my plan rn is:
Flip fascist with strasser
take out usa
Dear lord 😭
Maybe try on a nation in a large faction, that might help? Idk I think your run is cooked
my plan is
flip fascist w/ str asser
take out usa
then flip back to nonaligned using alfred hugenberg
if that fails ill at least get the weltpolitik achievement
for taking back old colonies
(some of which belong to the usa)
sunk cost fallacy bro

wait a minute
i could try this
i have cores on like
very little of my empire
so maybe I do the civil war
Excuse me but does paradox know about this??? Watch this video it is disgusting what the dev team does https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4an13ppH4Bs
Today, I will be taking a dive into The Great War Redux, a mod that had so much promise but has fallen into the depths of development hell.
Check out the Alternate WW1 mods in the comments!
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:27 Realism Not Revisionism
5:00 The Dev Team From Hell
8:49 Accuracy Over Fun
10:02 What You Need To Understand
----...
Okay this is bugged rip
ill do that later
so maybe i do the civil war
?
to raise the wt
this is a mod development team
paradox isn't related to that dev team
so like is this a functional plan
theyre not affiliated with pdx?
not only am i the only large faction in the world, I need 50% wt to justify
and if i had 50% wt
I would jsut justify on the us in the fiorst place
can I like
go into the game files
and change wt to 51%
or something like that
to justify on the us
or would tht ruin the ironman
Yeah it's gross but it's not Paradox, it's a mod
Oh yeah but how could a community so vile go unknown about
My bad
They spam slurs everywhere and stuff
I think bc it's a hoi4 mod, but it's published through the Steam Workshop, so they can't actually do anything about it.
its known about to a degree
No of course not, I meant like its crazy how such a massive mod with crazy shit is unknown about for their actions
Maybe steam should take them down wow
PR is just mass gaslighting
I hope something gets done about it because the shit in that video is horrendous what they do
Idk if they can, partially bc the issues are on Discord, not Steam, and partially bc idk what Steams policy on bans for things outside of Discord are
You could just report the slurs though
got a easy achievement
Not for the ai lol
always a treat looking at the polish civil war
sometimes theyre quick and its 200K combined casualties
sometimes its 2 million
oh dear god this color is disgusting
who knows
what can i do
I only ever see them lose
i think about 2 days ago i made a war so equal the ai took 4 million both sides casualties
invading ukraine as russia not like major v major
pretty devastating
it was like 1.6 mil losses to 2.4mil
how can i naval invade
my troops aint moving no matter what i do
Did you finish planning
And have naval superiority in all of the tiles along the path?
-# Unless they changed that in the NCNS update...
They did change the entire naval system...
Dies
Right when I was getting some of the basics
-# Been a couple months since I hopped on...
Basically now you need to have patrol ships aswell to get effective naval superiority
Not just effective
To get any
Dear lord
Yup... Thats what I meant by effective
Time to do some reasearch
Basically the design meta is still the same (as far as I know)
But now you also want to get spotting cruisers
1 for every sea zone basically
Why?
Cheap and effective so why not. Instead of cockroach destroyers
Why spotting cruisers
with effective I mean you can get a lot of spotting stats on it
To get the superiority and to spot the enemy fleets before the spot you so you can engage better
Ohh
why is stalin bricked?
bricked? like, some kind of block? a soviet block, even?
You're cooked...
Opinions about this Spanish Civil War?
i support kingdom of spain
Kingdom yellow, cyan, blue or red?
yes
But is like seven factions in the same country.
the answer is clear; Hail the monarchy! Long live the kingdom and long live the king!
LONG LIVE TO SPANISH EMPIRE AND JUAN CARLOS I RAAAAAAH.
Spanish people's republic in the corner like:
anyone down to play some hoi4?
only if ur a girl right
The PCPE who separates from PCE—.
Oh, and I have this old gameplay with the Austrian Empire against the Soviet Union.
Please be aware that this bypasses the filter. Try to avoid doing that in the future
bradar wat is this
Why is the USA moving like Sans, avoiding being conquered and preventing me from justifying through sheer determination(lowering wt)
I know the game is working against me, I just cant prove it...
An old gameplay when everyone go monarchist. Because monarchist are funny.
but unfortunately for them, I have one last trick up my sleeve...
Portugal stands strong
Honestly I do not know. But in factions, I prefer the Reichspakt name or Central Powers than Mittle Europa.
imagine having the kaiser tell you, (otto strasser), in 1953 that they need you in the government so that way they can finally conquer the world
People, what is the best name for a new Russian Empire (in mods like Millenium Dawn, or The Fire Rises).
— Holy Romanov Empire.
— Tsardom Federative of Russia.
— Eurasian Empire.
— Russian Empire.
Extra:
— Third Rome.
I really wants to know your opinions.
I have come to the realization that I have played more old world blues Then base game
and I still dont know what combat width is
great tsardom of russia
assuming romanovs are still in power
or just outright second russian empire
With the romanovs, of course.
I prefer always the classic Russian Empire and the tricolor imperial flag.
Tsardom of Russia or Russian Empire fits the most
That's the good!
holy romanov empire
😭😭😭 bro what.
oh i love darkest hour
useless Germans ☠️
nah i almost won
*kaiserin
I do too, however the faction name was chosen through focus tree 15 years ago.
trying a latvia run but BOTh estonia and latvia have a soviet civil war at same time 😢
can you send volunteers
maybe spam out garbage divisions with a single battallion of cav each until you hit 30 divs total, then send your good divisions as volunteers?
would that work?
mp low despite some focuses giving extra mp boost, and i havent made any new units
estonian communists lost but lithuanian communists are gonna win and I can't do nothing about it 😭
its so over
its so celminš gustover
i'll just absorb estonia and then worry about lithuania later
wait
ur on nonhistorical right
and you can tell if the soviets are going to go through a civil war
so maybe you just wait
yea maybe
if they have factionalism national spirit
theyre doing the left/right opposition civil war
if you click on the soviet "unknown focus"
and the "beaten, but not defeated" branch still appears in the big '37
theyre gonna do the monarchist/fascist civil war
at least thats what works for me all the time
civil war happening for me, i heard that for civil wars its better to switch all current units to arty then switch back on my side
You can create your own faction and do the focus tree and have the name you want.
oh yeah
is that begging i see?
ill do that after I take the US
p—PLEAASEEE
PLEASE SANTA I NEED THIS
SANTA I NEED THIS
MY FOUR HEARTS ARE KINDA IRONLESS
😢
That's is why I create Reichspakt and later begin the European conquest with my best ally!
...
The Ottomans? Nah. Austria? They are just another province of our Empire. Great Britain? Well. Maybe.
dont beg in chat, please
And keep it on topic
Wait for the sales, hoi4 participates in all the main sales
😢 no money
Like the spring sale coming up in a few months
😢 😔
there we go
Leaves you time tk save up aswell
to quote chak
Form Fiume
no, and consider this an official warning to stop
Somebody here try a world conquest with Aussa?
also stop spamming chat, please.
now I only got 5 divs left though, not great if i want to invade the estonians
short, rapid messages unrelated to the other conversations going on, including unrelated GIFs and emojis are typically considered spam, though you may disagree with my definition, and that would be a fair complaint
which advice 🤤
oh did you already know how to tell if the soviets are gonna have civil war
is this common knowledge
no i just see it happen most of hte times
i wonder how the timeline would be affected if i sent this inconspicuous little fella to die trying to orchestrate a reactionary coup
tryna find where it gives me claims on esti and latv so that it doesnt take a century to justify
the lightning strikes
also ostland gives you cores
so you can justify more quickly
this demands the other baltic states to get annexed into you
idk what supporting baltic fascists does because i never do it
but consecrate the brotherhood gives you puppet wargoals I think
got the default infantry ready on lith's border
survivedf with 5 after civil war, made 2 more so far
will sneak in one of these as i got a lot of arty to spare
I think Bulgaria is becoming a menace
bulgaria is begoming two menaces
in axis now atleast
you gonna form ostland?
alright
one of the paths is ostland
where you stay loyal to germany
(at least in concept)
and the other is the united baltic empire
I think the allies forgot to make a nuke
china had a lil snacc
china on the three seas ahh china
why does it own the baltics
I don't know
yo randomly just got another 5 divs, i'll take it
probably from the focus i jsut did
honestly was just too busy trying to get the lightning strikes that i didnt even read it
lol
ai being a pain as usual
btw do any of yall happen to know the historical motivation behind the decision to make a rk ostland
W indeed
is that monarchist poland
youre fighting them too
btw
@steel zephyr
when you take lithuania
dont unify the baltics through the deicison
ah
next time wait for soviet civil war to finish
and also
if you make it out alive
(youre probably better than me)
dont unify baltics
through decision
do it through the focus
'United Baltic Empire' or smth like that
yo
because that focus also gives you cores on some Belarusian lands
tookpskov @azure walrus we are so back
naval invasion of tokyo
youza
fun but
nice
anyway heed what I said
i didnt check 😭
about not unifying baltics through decision
alternatively, invade through the east indies
through siam and china
maybe
idk make your pick\
about 200k
Im realizing
that i can just pull back and that frees up an army
good polish hold?
if you have puppets, beg them
polska gurom
i need like maybe 2 or 3 of those armies to defend, the japs are way out of their supply lines
maybe make some armored divs and encircle+slaughter them
also why dont you make the rest of the rks
waiting for the germans to reinforce with all the soviet supply hubs i captured but then i see this
The Reich that was supposed to last a thousand years btw 🥹
the Stalinists have a surrender limit reducing national spirit that gets worse as time goes on
so maybe divert some troops to the rhineland and keep pushing to moscow
at least i think so, check
tough indeed
I wish bigger bob had a model similar to the bob semple
also do you enjoy playing with day/night cycle
overextended whoops
looks like i wont be bale to save them
bc the button to disable it is here
(its the crescent and sun in your bottom right)
unfortunate
i didnt mean to hire gaster as an ace
oh js noticed the little entente
how fun 🙂
anyone know how to make ts go faster
im a little tired
yeah ok, a crumbling german ally and a returing soviet enemy
yeah saafe to say games over
and naturally, lithuanian comeback
the might of lithuania
starting new latvia game
you should play the military directorate trust
literally all the latvia paths end with uniting the baltic
there is nothing unique
(sometimes you also get belarus cores)
math aint mathing
may this game bring me a competant germany
or play communist latvia
and form the baltic-belarus socialist republic
or play the latvian military directorate
because it sounds cooler
turning fascist a lot earlier this time because last time i just did eco focuses
nice
are you playing latvia for that cheesy achievement
or whatever it was called
just playing it for the fun of it
something else than finland which is what i always play
not again...
this time
vruh
wait for the opposition to win the civil war
why can my navy not go anywhere? 😭
"no accessible region" The axis OWN EUROPE AND AFRICA
this time maybe wait for the opposition to win the civil war
before going in on the soviet puppet
the opposition would not win the war at any chance last game
bc the puppet doesnt transfer
well this is a different game
maybe theyll spawn in ukraine
check if the soviets are even doing a civil war this time
Does the AI take less affect from being out of supply
I refuse to believe 17 divisions on one shitty Indonesian island with a level one port are completely fine
Who will win, Ma tank, or Bigger Bob
logistics companies maybe?
Wait it's technically the Indonesian capital so there's a fake supply hub there
wym fake supply hub
Even though a supply hub hasn't actually been built there, it still acts as a supply hub because it's a capital
ah
do you not want to fight a civil war?
well i have a path for you
the military directorate
my god
excuse me what
anyway you should play the nonaligned military directorate
gave up so just doing this now
play the military directorate
DAWG 😭
Why would you break the rules
i assumed since i was being called out directly
i did smth wrong
sunk cost
I’m not even a mod
wups
well i cant read right now
Glasses are useful I have to wear them
Then go to bed
nah
im almost there
i can feel it
strasser
hes doing his job
i know he is
the United States will fall
What you trying to do
What country
germany
Hey guys I’m struggling with building tank division vs soviet I’m Byzantine I don’t have many of the support stuff or helicopters in the mentioned templates in this discord
I have medium and light tank and medium SP artlly
How should j build ? When I try combination my HP is very veyr low
since my incessant puppeteering
Why so late
since my incessant puppeteering led to an awfully low # of wt
You don’t have time really maybe do light tanks
Why not ?
As grecce your economy is messed up
I have 6 resseach slot to use
releasing and declaring war on italy through the one focus I had left that gave me a wargoal
the only way out I see right now is
And a year to prepare for Soviet after I finished fixing my economy
Fix your economy then do that
(and maybe luxembourg)
(for the eu unification)
then flipping back to monarchy
and getting the achievement
my final hope
is in the naked mole rat ahh person
and the hope that those people on discord didnt lie
tuff
Yeah I did from 1936-1939
I got all debuffs gone and 76 civs to use
I just don’t know how to build tanks 😅 with what I have of support stuff
Build milltary factories
idk where ts idea comes froom
you shouldnt
I got Italy turkey , Romania yogoslavia and Bulgaria as core with Greece Byzantine I have 107 mills
Sounds wonderful
I play War Thunder AND hoi4 so I can't do the same
You don’t know me bro you don’t understand what I’ve been threw and what’s my life like
my apologies
Don’t apologise
Just for me like been bad for awhile tbh I don’t see a clear way out the tunnel some days
Idk if it was just the resistance mechanics or if this is actually in their focus tree but the Phillipines being able to magically liberate their entire country has got to be the worst thing I've ever experienced in vanilla
But if your happy in life keep being happy
Amen
alright
I try
Even god can’t save me from it some days I think
Hoi4 makes you like it and hate it
I just remember the week before Gotterdammerung dropped
Uninstall. Don't do this again. Save yourself
I have 2k hours in this game you know what I could of done with 2k hours in my life
I have 2,471 hours
I’m 20 my life’s good just feel bad all the time tbh
Nearly 20
I meant
tallinn pocket too big to liquidate so im pulling out 🤤
pull out and encircle method...
Hoi4 players wondering why they have mental health issues 😭
pull out and plunge back in
You don’t know me it’s not even hoi4
there we go
nice
wait WHAT
soviet civil war
did you not check the national spirit like i recommended
or what is this
wait
did they have a second civil war
??
what happened
just to call them back in
ah
no
ok
but yeah this wasnt even that bad
idk whats the panicking abt
the tallinn stack somehow vanished which is nice
I see
Don’t have enough money but can’t be assed
Don’t get political mods hate it but Yh
Thanks for having a discussion with me it’s nice to talk to decent people
no problem
My depression is up and down but I try I guess
tuff
where do the fascists occupy
if they occupy the belarusian states you should justify on them
What’s the problem friend
peacedeal
just me and germany in axis
3rd latvia game time but here's the 2nd game
i need ts
im boutta fight the us
and i assume they have developed nukes
I have 14 of my own
but like
idk how to drop them
all i remember is strat bombers
so like
latvia 3 we go
deadass?
Do you work out like gym etc been in same situation couple of times and when I go back to gym it helps a bit mentally
@azure walrus whats the path to unite baltics that isnt what i did before
literally any other one of the paths other than historical
there's ostland
(fascist)
there's the baltic-belarus ssr
(commie)
if you get the military directorate
Yh go gym twice I day this its kinda sad I might make you laugh but barley have any friends to hang with
you can even do it as nonaligned
bc it gives you puppet wargoals
and you can unify it as democratic
Hate feeling like this but I always do late night
but the fascist and commie paths also give you cores on parts of belarus
Nah I haven’t talked to anybody outside my family for a year 😂 or gone out
@steel zephyr you dont seem to have followed through with the entire path
based on the fact that oyure still latvia
Fairs
It’s 4:30 am here I know the late night thing
in that final ss
How old you bro ?
24
Been 3 years of same thing repeat
I’m going gym but like what else can I do
Issue is not. Not Being able to find a purpose that interests you
are any of these worth making
And getting out of bad habits to try something or do something is what’s very hard
I use to love gaming now I only really play it to get my mind of staff
Endless cycle
Yh
I don’t wanna like you know but like it gets to me
For me I can’t get myself to do something else I’m too addicted or stuck in this loop
Wanna talk more in dms don’t want to see to many deep things cos I might banned
I’m addicted to things that like ain’t good
Sure but will have to be tommrow because I really gotta get some sleep 😅
Yh your good man
Have a good one
Know the feeling, im slowly doing something to improve my situation, do small steps and build it
Yh I guess
why is it that my playtime hours keeps changing
one moment im at 1802
now im at 1796
Steam could be glitched
you went back in time and convinced yourself to not play hoi4 for 6 hours
If only I could go back in time
Can someone help me I am stuck at the version 16.9 I wanna update it to 1.17
How can I do that?
Got DLCs ?
Nice my friend
@calm delta sent you reguest 👍
??
Ok mate have a good one
Is this rt56
if italy does REALLY badly against commie ethiopia somehow then the soviet union gets to demand an end to the war
i think its from a focus from the ethiopian focuses i think
What’s the goal here lime
Fairs
why didnt u just kill them as germany with victoria
not enough wt
world tension?
yeah
check this out
hehe
as nonaligned
i need 50% wt to justify
since I made puppets in almost every peacedeal
to appease the british
and be able to do the accept british naval dominance branch
🤤 overpriced latvian equipment
what path you gonna play
smeg path
