#hoi4-general
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what focus tree do you use as germany mainly
Never was fun
Depends, are you planning on being historical or not
the dowser?
yeah
what's best for germany
a unhistorical route?
yet another finland run time
since im subscribed i'll try maybe design aircraft and tanks for the first time
Id generally say historical
But all paths are strong
zooweemama
is this rt56
It's pretty much the last of your concerns
no
It's formable nations mod
hm ok, and what is the best thing to research? planes,industry,infantry?
wrong so wrong
monarchist for germany
is free land
free cores
2 op formables
historical doesnt compare
I did say that yes but also for a new player they might even get stuck at the civil war
bro the civil war is so easy 😭
ur forgetting
that a beginner
knows nothing
what is that war name lmao
Not for a beginner
im not kidding when i say
an alien wouldn't know how to speak english right away
you can just battle plan with your air
but you're forgetting
do you think I know how to build a airforce bro
if he cant battle plan he aint even beating poland
thats why he gotta learn
I know how to battle plan
but not any airforce or naval
learn wit the civil war
but with what divisions specifically though?
you dont need to build it
you start with them
u need to know what t odo with ur divs
hm
then why are u making him do monarchist germany
and just battle plan cause you have massively better infantry bonuses
if u know he knows nothing
🤷♂️ its easier than germany v poland
if he loses this he aint going far in historical
theres a difference
prolly do austria then lose to allies
u get the civil war in 1936, and u are forced to start with not that great stuff
for poland
u get the war in 1939
wym
by then
germany start demolishes
u would be prepared
germany starts so good
is Italy a good starter nation to learn how to do a Frontline in Ethiopia
only need 1 year to make a couple troops
hell nah
yeah
italy sucks for beginners
just not against them
italy scales like a upside down pyramid
slow at the start but big at the end
its op only after u beat allies
italy is just like germany
actually no
I know some basics like how to do diplomacy within my country
im telling u a beginner is gonna use the tribal troops and militia for sure
their unironically gonna use em
yes
and they will learn
how they losing 💔
after a few days
so don't use tribal and militia
i made allies like 2x industry to make up for manpower
they had 8 years to prep for this
they will learn that those units are dogshit
what's the best
infantry and sp arty
so I should just do trials as germany and keep learning on wars?
MAGYAR MAGYAR 🗣️
three armies reasonable?
for a nation thats the size of itself
italy late game is peak
then why tf are u saying that its starting templates are shit
theres so much contradictory stuff
i meant for the ethiopian war
mb
that war u can use em
cause ethiopia happens to suck more
like suck alot more
its not hard
once you get it right once
you can copy paste
forever
once i made good special forces once i been using it ever since
what's the end goal? or is it just there's no goal unless you unite the world
MAGYAR MAGYAR
what's the most I can be outnumbered by where the quality of the equipment and training of my troops just doesn't matter anymore
the goal is what u wanna achieve
or achievements
kill everyone
it's really not that complex
late game allies spam
i like to just play hungary
how do I spawn troops (I started yesterday gng ) 😭
like say I have 42' guns in like 1940
u train them
and Engineer IIs
did u do the tutorial yet\
if u have max tech in early game
no one beats u
yes
literally
but only 10 divisions
(Lebanon)
if u have 10 max units on a fort max tech pure infantry and engineer on ur capital
u can hold for very long
and let's say the Italians are invading
dawg
if italy invades
give em 1 port
and encircle spam
italy ai sucks
im Lebanon i have 1 state
my only port is my capital
make another?
also yu have france
to help u
the allies abandoned me after I pushed Syria
unlikely italy doing a naval invasion in the first place
is jimarkus skilled or is he unskilled
just built a rail to petsamo and now just gonna spam mils
they didnt
they pushed the allies all the way from Egypt to Lebanon
italy shldnt even come to levant
unless
ur playing A hist
then it make sense
I'm not even playing on Ahist
vanilla?
ive never seen allies lose north africa to italy
italy is comically bad at defending north africa
and they lost by like late 39
highly recommend u build a supply hub on the tile west of the salla city tile
its how they lose so much units so often
real
minor countries have the decision to get free supply hub construction speed buff
so basically my strategy should rush Guns 42 and Industry
invade Syria
then hold the front as long as possible
then invade the other countries if I can hold
because I tried this
my main problem
I have no civilian factories nor do I have manpower
yeah 300%
I think construction truly is a lost cause for Lebanon
Lebanon got good supply thankfully
don't have to worry about that
is there a way I can fully occupy Syria before they join the axis
oh I tried
put a buncha units
I can't
well I can
true, planned that too
did so in my other finland runs
but it's not worth it at all
gonna build a railway across salo later once the mils are up
Lebanon's only saving graces are arabia and mesopotamia
since Lebanon has no core population
i never played in the middle east
it sucks
iraq sucks
iran suckjs
it truly does
and that's why I wanna play in the middle east
play greece
(also because I am Lebanese)
thats what i do
Going for the achievement?
greece needs a rework
well I want to bring glory to my country
True
greece still really op
Also true
too bad my country hasn't been good since 1711
at anything
true but a little outdated
the survive as non alligned one?
The 12 free civ focus is op
Yep and lone wolf
the only 'older' tree that is very good and dont need change imo is the bulgarian one
got the non alligned one yesterday
that's more civs than Lebanon has factories from the focus tree
i be cooking on greece
ive done byzantium like 3 times already
we get 11 factories from the free
should i make a fourth army and seperate olonets and onega fronts?
and megali alot
5 of which are civs
im sorry
but you know
in 2026? 🙃
u can just make 1 big army
and 4 of them go to trade and consumer goods eventually
your only option is construction or expansion as Lebanon
i will go do it again
and construction can only get you so far
and you need Iraqi steel
yeah thats what i used to do but when i finally go on the offencive, it gets overstretched a lot
😭
ok heres what i do
2 army groups
special forces
and front units
front units big army no push just hold
italy is always been bad (ww1 and ww2)
special forces to push encircle etc
alliance with ussr or war? is alliance best for new players.
holy tuff
i got my biggest defence by leningrad then high attack units by karelia
my plan is to quickly try to breach murmansk railway and shortern front
hold push
and then switching sides if they are losing 🤡
yoo w division on the left
had something similar but signal company
allies
if ur new
dont go fighting 2 major nations
alr
what did bosnia do
is it worth designing tansk for the frontline or nah
i am focusing on high piercing infantry
yugoslavia broke up probably
if ur a minor
might as well not
soap incident
yeah but why they are the only independent country
i mean rest is italian puppet
who is even winning here
yes
when yugoslavia breaks up
if italy puppet sometimes
some go indpendent
does army mean the entire army including tanks?
alr
finland focus tree is so juicy
free factories everywhere
prolly infantry only
someone never played the uk or germany
sigh, I hate that its not clear
omg 67 67 67
played germany a few times 🤫
😭 bro
why is convoys above artiliery
artilery way more important
defensive mountain artilery
is insane
because i forgor to rearrange
for defense
ok boss im locking in
paradox call card
god i love this area
r u playing commie japan?
commie chile
dw a lot of factories in construction rn
whaaat
allied with them though
whaaaaaat
6/9
commie chile 😭
holy forts man
🤫 the 'fortify whole border with soviets' method
look at my allies dawg we not beating commies 💔
its been good so far so :idk
what the actual hell is allies doing
no clue how to use spies but I made an agency anyways
you know any good mountainer division template i mean i want to go to france to cap them and im not at war with germany and i want to go there using switzerland
i gave yall more industry
its stalemater pretty much everywhere
remove the tanks put 3 artilery
and get mountain art
9 mountaineers 3 marines
and now i just hold that forever
uh oh
rip
we back nvm
How to create intelligence agency
you got the dlc?
what dlc
but why marines?\
why is desperate defense like the best doctrine to go ham into russia ☠️
multi use
more useful
especially fighting over rivers
if you mix special forces with 2 trees ontop
well
its really good as a pushing force
how do i download it
you get 48 of em
you can use em to push germany as poland
especially since mountain artillery
is so op
allies so back
the 'heim lowk tuff
steam page
where in the steam page? sorry, i dont use steam that much.
does the area defense thing not work for planning nowadays
tysm
omg full green
does the planning offensive glitch still work with area defense
whoopsie
surrounder
soviet civil war dissolved comintern nice
they just randomly declare bruh
so what do i do instead
silly norweigans
wagwan g
doing alright up north but not enough divs to gaurd soviet border
Always wondered, why did Poland get Stettin after the war, if it's on the other side of the river?
when taking america, whats more advisable, a west to east attack, east to west, or south to north
another 2
tuff
6 norway divs eradicated
soon to be 8
-8 divs
got to be over half of their army here
rip norway army
Now encricle the entire Russian red army
soon...
holy cuckholdry of norway
oslo in 3 days...
hi guys
Is there a tfr discord server?
i'm new to this game
yo guys shoudl i get arms against tyranny or by blood alone
as long as norway doesnt join the international, its a free kill
will annex finnmark
63k mp which is nice for me
any idea how modern tanks interact with doctrine boni? Do they get them from medium and heavy tanks? or also from light tanks?
ggs allies
Heya
dam bro
hey @toxic cypress
about to encircle half of the norwegian army again
BUT i dont feel like marching to oslo
any other way i can end htis war
norway attacked me
thankfully the soviets dont like them too much
finmark and troms ill annex probably
NO way germany pulls thsi off
once norway inevitably attacks me from narvik and breaks his entrenchment, thats more free units encircled
☠️
Even Mussolini has beef with Germany
no step back
holy greed for achievment
average ussr playthrough
yes
early 39 war with japan killed warsuport
guys does production cost really matter much?
I mean if you are making super heavy battleships it would be pretty neat if you dont have to wait till 1947
yea but like for tanks
cuz i can either make a good light tank that has around 5-6 production cost or meh light tank for 3 production cost
Idk I just stack soft attack and armor on it
lmao
eh i guess i'll keep going by intuition before some pro pukes after seeing the template i use
I always use medium tanks but yeah pretty much
the only thing i wanted for christmas
infantry has greater hard attack 🥹
yooo congratulations on the achievement
ive been there
lost 900 thousand people
yeah i know thats why its named the shitter 🔥
encirclement bait
retreated from a province to let 3 norway divisions die
ah, a classic
how many hours do you need to have on the game to actually be considered good at the game
too many
like?
few thousand i guess
Not hours you need a guy that has some hundreds hours on mp fan be a lot better than slmebody with thousands of hours on single player
Depends on how deep you learn and what you play etc
Awake and angry or No one crosses the Finnish line?
So asking for ”how many hours” is pointless
alright thanks
k
Which one should i go for
I alr got it
AAT is just scandinavia and MIO's
BBA is italian focus tree and also switzerland
Ok
Okay
I suggest by blood alone
But getting them both while they are on sale might be better
Yeah but im too por
Poor
I could only afford one of them + battle of bosporus
BBA gives you planes
Lowk better to get NSB
We are law abiding citizens here
How tf do i save this i have no planes, no navy, almost no equipment
Pls delete 😇
Show the entire screen
You can retreat to better positions though and just wait for your production to ramp up
Looks like you have France and Germany so you still have a large Industry base
Ok so retreat your armor to deal with dday and put all your subs on convoy raiding
Also build naval bombers
To bomb the channel
ok
Yeah you still have plenty of mp you should be good
tac in chat
Btw save this
I did
Deal with the dday first though since it could get out of hand if you leave it
Ok might be a nice disaster save
Btw what ui mod is this?
Uhm i forgot i cant send a screenshot with the mods im playing with
chak changed it
Decision tab icons are different they look hella cool
i wouldnt dare go against chak
Thank you i can send the mods im using hold on let me just look
Uhm, I was wondering
How can one play minecraft for 25 hours straight?
Probably forgot it was running
I know I was just trying to make a joke
I got a new laptop that can run the new dlc so gonna be active here again!
sleep
but also you could play the game 25h if you like didnt sleep
i just afk a lot because i get distracted
What if I have an actual life?
Theses are mods i currently use. I dont know which one makes the ui look cool tho
my real playtime is like half-3/4th
thats nice, keep that
Prob BM buttons
im disabled so i cant get a job and its very boring
Yeah
Damn bro what happend
Hey I wasn't talking about you, some people just waste their lives on gaming like I saw some guy trying to get the longest minecraft speedrun he played for days
I'm against that
Not your situation
tuff
By the way I hope all goes well for you Casey
i just use it to have projects to do in the day but i get the concern :) ty a lot
Ok so I got three options
Or four
1- Get Awake and Angry
2- Get the finland achievements
3- Play darkest hour
4- No hoi4 today
Idk might roll a dice
this will do or nah
ive never seen anyone add a machine gunner to a fighter
Change the things in the bottom to get more range instead
i still cant believe that there arent like presets for planes/tanks/ships etc that you can make
and divisions of course
There kinda is though-
so in planes i should just spam air attack?
how do we feel about douglas macarthur
Do a focus that gives you research bonuses for engine 3 and 1940 airframe
And make this
Sucks
that thing requires too much rubber, this only works if ur playing uk or france
he saved your country gng
The humble synthetic refinery
and as germany if you are struggling that much with rubber try to trade with siam after the fall of france
They dont have much
But it helps
UK navy + they aint got allat
in fighters i should use machine guns or cannons
25 factories on that plane is only 25 rubber
You can trade with siam over land after the fall of france
yeah... until you do barbarossa
There's a reason he was blame for it's capture in the first place
Well by then you should have synthetics
called five year plan for a reason
PEG is for losers
because i go fve year plan
five
He ignored the already planned defence plan in exchange for his own then when it didn't worked he bailed out leaving the Philippines
You literally gain construction speed bonuses for synthetics with 4 year plan
and synthetics give 2 extra rubber
well... atleast he returned like promised
ts lowk true
IG Farben for moar Ref consturction speed
He did some good stuff but kinda outweighed by the bad ones
Also the landing lead to the Japanese fleet getting demolished so yeah
Oh wait off topic mb
🫃
buy stuff from the soviets. oh...
2nd time wasnt the charm

Average German division
i keep getting map definition error after trying everything even clean install and now i want hearts of molten iron flying at my head at 7000 miles🥀💔
Supply hubs in every spot that needs them with level 5 railways connecting
Negative supply for thousands of stats 😇
Love eastern front supply
Who's not gonna be fighting in flat terrain anyways!
Exactly
horthy with 56m manpower 🥀
No one needs supply
My heavy spgs dont need supply
They dont even need fuel to function
Trust
They kill before supply becomes a issue
That what they were doing before I ran out of supply 💀
Had to wait 6 months to build some before I could push again
hoi4 map definition error worse then epstein😔
cas is king supply is everything
is it not possible to lower enemy state AA to 0?
everyone needs supply
still need supply so u can move
least broken hungary path
Well time to wait another 6 months for supply
and he leaves petrograd... UNDEFENDED?!
next is form EU then core whole of europe 
its modded
Still less than united china 💔
theres 1 defender
thats literally undefended
1 division is nothing from the ai
this is barely full power
yet to core whole of europe because lazy
Coring europe is still less than united china
like half my factories are unused 💔
Only 1 formable in the game can out pop china
And thats anarchist spain
But aint no one got the time for that
bro i have player lead peace conference and i wanna it to be fair what do i give to japanese
they have war score
Uhhh nothing
give japan korea
Just act like they dont exist
oh fr
then again not surprised
this good i think
i have non aligned china as puppet i could prob give him all of asia
maybe after this run
im losing planes at 1:30 rate but the commies have so much planes im still losing alot
i have a quesion rq why does my paratrooper refuse to go in france
the revolution is inevitable
do you have transport planes and air superiority?
Losing lots of planes is ok if you are destroying more of their planes than you are losing
do you have the transport planes in that specific airport?
And make sure you are out producing the amount you are losing
yeah
yeah
83 transport wing
then they should be transporting the troops one by one, strange
maybe your paratrooper template isnt fully made out of paratroopable troops?
yeah but my air production
is quite low
nice
idk if i can replenish fast enough
well its the base paratrooper templayte
only paratrooper
finally
produce more transport planes, maybe your division is too large to be transported by only 83 transport planes
yeah your fine
that is a really good trade
i hate this dlc
This is Triplanes vs Jets lol
me too
i hate all the dlcs
and to cap allies i have to go to asia
Wish I had less casualties 💔
i hate the monarchists as well
Heck yeah
Just need to be more efficient next time
i hate the revisionists as well
are you the soviet union?
bro like how do i get my ahh to philipines
no
If I was the soviets I wouldnt have 5m casualties
Invade over Africa theb Indian ocean then Pacific
That easy
insane
Djibouti to Philippines clearly
simple. there is a fascist state in central america called honduras i think
ask them for docking rights
then invade the US from there
no
then invade hawaii
Its el Salvador
ah
Or politely ask China for docking rights
Just world conquest and invade from Borneo and Taiwan
who thought sending a african man to european nation at war with africa to be a spy in 1950 was a good idea
Dominican republic, Venezuela and peru are also fascist in north/south america
U never know how long he's been there..
why tf brasil owns macau
i thought portugal will give me millitary acces they are at war with Uk😭 🙏
this is my allies land but
there is 20 enemy units on it..
sorry france but ima nuke ur land
british raj british raj
but now i can invede philipines
Daniel
The cooler Daniel
hello yalls
hello
wassup
there is no way they garrison mainland
im good tank
chad magyar bruttaly mogs beta soviet
5k defense and 1k soft attack
Thats tuff
Somebody wanna play historical competitive vannila?
chad wall behavior
r soviet tanks shooting aluminium bullets?
yes
actually no
Its wood
they ran out of everything else
they have the most resources
if they actually ran out
skill issue
used it all fighting the first allies
Wooden bullets
used it all to delete the americans
honestly hyper dissapointed by the usa
their navy is smaller then the soviets
I forgot to form greater germany lol
16:1 kdr
should i always buy stuff from international market get production licenses and also get lend lease as Estonia?
I forgot that the decision existed
Love doing this to the ussr
answer
Dont use production licenses
The other 2 are great options
uhm why not?
Its not good in sp
alr
i do have a building slots mod
so i have MORE room for factories and buildings
@tulip thorn
Well thats good
Focus mostly on mills
And try to rush uniting the Baltics
why mostly Mills?
You can get your civs from uniting the baltics
And you are going to need alot of mills
i do need civs aswell if i wanna buy stuff from international market get and get production licenses btw @tulip thorn
respect for actually capping 1 in 4 major powers
Yes I know this
Thats why you get them from forming baltic union
alr
france jumpscare
Almost feel bad
nah there is no way im going throught mexican mointains
@tulip thorn how many civs should i try to get
20-30, and once again just take them from the other baltic nations
alr
is that enough?
446:25
so i noticed that i dont have naval invasion tech
who can spam the most
I think detroit is better than daimler benz
4 commie nations 2 over 1 bil pop
or hungary
MAGYAR 🗣️
all men and women must defend our land
even china doesnt have over 1 billion pop in 1945
i have the government expansion mod and pop growth boom mod
so uesr and south east asian republics
grew past 1bil
youre pulling these numbers outta the nation called imagination
hmm, more population? thats cheating
its growth
it costs consumer goods
and stability
more population growth= more population in some time
help pls #ask-for-help-here message
uesr has higher growth then me cause i cant afford
cheating
it's outclassed by tank destroyer in every way possible
i know
to make the game more fun
but the ai doesnt know how to use population
200mil deaths in ww2
eh
incase you need another look
another look
im literally losing the air fight cause even doe their shit
they have so much shit it piled up from the ground into the air and knocked my planes out
encircling any scraps i can get
even with over 10x kdr
im losing
cause im losing planes i cant replace fast enough and they are literally shitting out planes
aa spam meta?
death by one million cuts
i have 600 troops with AA and max AA every state
but that doesnt matter when they own more planes then i have people
they have 150k planes
total
😭 im not winning this
i have
-5k planes v 150k
and i have no oil
SUPPLY VOID
commies got to em
i cant even trade with my allies anymore
cause france fell
and the allied navy
was nuked
i heavily regret
giving greece so much dockyards
i gave em like 400 dockyards
for the funnies
and now their deleting all the navies
YOO
663:31
I would love to sink that
Would take a giant fleet of everything maxed out
i dont even own a navy im completely encircled
i cant get more oil
But more than possible
its so over
bro the usa lost all its navy to greece and soviets
the uk has 1k ships still
cause they big brain
42 aircraft carriers
and kept it to protect the isles
is the navy for hoi4 a bit messed up
i shot down 80k enemy planes and they still have 150k left
and i now have -10k defecit
and no oil
because the ai spreads their navy in lil task forces and its so easy to destroy a navy
they now bombing everything
and since they have 20 units per tile
without my forts
im losing land
