ask-for-help-here

[neat widget]

but keep in mind when crossing straits you suffer a naval penalty

[dense patrol]

yo could anyone give good template for non aligned france (napolean) infantry?? im new

[neat widget]

are you running tanks

[dense patrol]

no should i

[neat widget]

I mean you could

[dense patrol]

got a good template??

[neat widget]

But if you're not running tanks you might want to do an 18/0 mountaineer template

[dense patrol]

ohh k thx

[glacial steeple]

yes

france starts with all the relevant tank techs in singleplayer

and if you dont build civs your eco is pretty good

[static gazelle]

what is this supposed to mean

[neat widget]

Yeah that shouldn't happen

[static nest]

If im doing grand battleplan should my template have just one line artillery + support arty as a general 20-24ish width infantry div? For these ones ill be specializing para and Marines.

[neat widget]

No

[static nest]

No arty at all linewise then?

[neat widget]

Yeah

Also generally do 32 width - 38 width

[static nest]

Ok. I usually stay away from large width and try to stick with the 7/2 approach as a good general unit. Thank you

[inner sparrow]

7/2 is bad

just do pure inf

or pure special forces

support arty is good tho

[dense patrol]

Guys whats best doctrine

[tepid pendant]

what should i do rn? I have einsenhower's group dedicated to the uk + potential d-day, and i have mcarthur set up to navally invade japan. im pretty new, so i might have left out some details. if so, pls let me know. Thanks!

[wild rune]

GBP

[azure halo]

Hey everyone!
I hope you are doing well into the new year

I wanted to start the year with a historical campaign with the USSR, I have never played the soviets before and wanted to try them out.
I wanted to know what would be a good infantry template and how many would be optimal to have by 1941
Thanks a lot in advance!

[static turret]

Superior firepower

[wild rune]

False

GBP is best

[static turret]

You can make an infantry 35width wall with mass mob or if you wanna make a normal one this current design şs fine

[wild rune]

Every doctrine has its place except like MW

[static turret]

Not since the current update

Superiour firepower my goat made the comeback

[wild rune]

SFP is the second best imo

GBP still gives greater stats

[static turret]

One spy and bro is done for

[wild rune]

Crazy

[static turret]

Holdon

You are cheese.

[wild rune]

Max planning + tanks on a plain tile can give 9k soft

[static turret]

I am rat.

[wild rune]

@glacial steeple I am being threatened help!

[static turret]

Dam casey is on a 13 h mc streak

[wild rune]

True

Casey is on the minecraft grind

[hushed gorge]

how do you design a good battleship

[languid trout]

as much heavy guns as possible

anywhere u cant put a heavy gun, put a secondary battery

[torn thorn]

i remain at war after peace conference?

[wild rune]

Different faction

[torn thorn]

it was only allies

[dense dragon]

can someone tell me exactly what is meant by faction-controlled border-states?

[torn thorn]

help

[azure halo]

Thanks!
How many divs would optimal for barb?

[static turret]

I usually go for 120 9 inf divisions then tanks

İf ut gonna go mass mob inf wall just get as many as possible

Im pretty sure I jad like 4 million men on the front before barb

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/826464137114681404/1405708263361744926/image.png?ex=6959b2d6&is=69586156&hm=608ac0fc4f32deda77926f73e730e65fdb2508f16b1a9a131254fc96d6a2c9e2&

Sorry 8

This is a pretty fun and very easy stray

So you can use it

[wild rune]

😭

[static turret]

I had so many menhermany didnt even attack

[hushed gorge]

whats a good fighter design

[wild rune]

You need some either on AA or like 35 on planes unless playing sheeps

[wild rune]

For which country

[hushed gorge]

USA

[wild rune]

Gimme a sec

[static turret]

What year

[torn thorn]

i remained at war with the same faction

[hushed gorge]

1940 rn

[wild rune]

Maybe its because some faction members didn't join the war?

[hushed gorge]

ty

[wild rune]

Yw

[static turret]

Holy ultra kill😭

[wild rune]

Make sure to do the focuses that reduce heavy fighter cost

[wild rune]

False

[torn thorn]

they all were in the war, i made sure of it

[hushed gorge]

i will

[static turret]

Dude the ai will crunble to any plane

[hushed gorge]

is that using a medium airframe

[wild rune]

True but ic is precious and I want 3000 land cruisers by 50

[wild rune]

Yes

[idle arch]

Wth is this build

[static turret]

Historical china

Tbh its pretty fun

You just

Click offensive

Doesnt matter how much casualties u take

U push.

Abd push.

Abd push.

[wild rune]

No air/AA gameplay

Peak

[static turret]

Peak

[torn thorn]

and for some minor nations i was at war against, i cant do anything to them during the conference

[idle arch]

How does one get 100mills as china

[static turret]

İt was soviet union

[wild rune]

By building mils and winning against japan

[static turret]

I ment historical china as in the build

[idle arch]

What is even the build

[static turret]

8 million soviets

[idle arch]

Which year did u win

[static turret]

I dont remember man its been months

[wild rune]

Bro is holding the molotov line

The stalin line is so much more fun

Actually

What I do isn't the stalin line

[vital geode]

But the lack of guns

It hurts

Unless you don't have NCNS

Then go for it

[static turret]

I had like 80 factories ob guns

[vital geode]

Prewar?

[static turret]

Yea

[vital geode]

Dang

[static turret]

İ dont even remember if I had surplus or not tho

[vital geode]

To be fair, I haven't done a Chiang Kai-Shek game yet

[static turret]

I just rmemebered

Tney did not luzh

[hushed gorge]

so according to this that means this is good?

[static turret]

Push

[vital geode]

The lack of production efficiency hurts so much

[static turret]

So I did

[hushed gorge]

because it doesnt look good it just looks spammy

[vital geode]

That thing will instantly die to a carrier

Just saying

[vital geode]

3 heavy batteries and the rest AA is good

Or dual purpose secondary batteries

[hushed gorge]

is this good

[hushed gorge]

?

[neat widget]

they're saying the battleships need aa

[vital geode]

So you know how carriers attack ships right

They use planes

Shoot the planes down with AA

[vital geode]

Replace the top 2 secondary batteries with AA if you dont have dual purpose

[native shale]

can someone help me to understand how to properly do naval and paratrooper operations? there always seems to be something wrong when i do them

[wild rune]

Just use regular planes and shoot them down from the mainland smh

[pliant condor]

this is basically the best design you can make

replace one heavy turret with secondary and it's the best

don't need aa

make sure the armor is battleship armor also

[hushed gorge]

does the same apply for super heavy battleships

[pliant condor]

not battlecruiser armor

[pliant condor]

yeah basically the same

[dense dragon]

where do I build infrastructure to complete this? does the state have to border another nation?

[hushed gorge]

yes

and it has to be all faction members

border states

[native shale]

can someone help me to understand how to properly do naval and paratrooper operations? there always seems to be something wrong when i do them

[reef solar]

whats that one mio german planes have thats like +50% range

[pearl falcon]

so i keep seeing people say 33 width mountaineers are optimal, but i dont understand why, the over width penalty at that point is about 33% leaving you with the stats of around 22 mountaineers, compared to 25's 25, whats the point? the other terrain doesnt seem that good at 33 to be worth the waste of special force capacity

[oak jasper]

Is 6250 km range enough for (cruiser) submarines to operate from a base in the UK and still effectively convoy raid the Mediterranean? Trying to decide if I should go all-torpedoes or slot in an extra fuel tank for this design.

[vital geode]

You have egypt

Use the port of Alexandria

[oak jasper]

Last time I played, the UK lost Egypt looooong before I was able to get into the war, sadly.

[vital geode]

If you are the UK

Oh, you arent playing UK

You are the US?

[oak jasper]

Ayep.

[vital geode]

The British should still own gibraltar

[civic garden]

I was thinking maybe they're Iceland and just managed to land in Britain?

[vital geode]

Or you instantly go for D-Day

[oak jasper]

That... maybe not, but it did give me the idea of swiping Corsica or Sardegna with an early assault.

[vital geode]

While those would make good bases, they arent really necessary if you have hold of Africa

If not, I guess so since Malta and Gibraltar can only hold so many troops

[native gorge]

My naval bombers dont seem to be doing much damage, just some slight damage here and there but not enough to sink ships (then again i dont have BBA)

[gusty briar]

Are straight rangers divisions useful?

Or should I just go mountaineers? I started with ranger I tech, but no ranger template. I a shitty mountaineers template though and enough xp to upgrade it.

So considering doing a mixed div? Mix rangers and marines were decent when I tried

[frozen swan]

how in jesus name do i do barbarossa

ive tried 2 times

if i even get past france

barbarossa is hard as hell

[young hill]

yes?

[young hill]

have green air

have supply

[native gorge]

My naval bombers dont seem to be doing much damage, just some slight damage here and there but not enough to sink ships (then again i dont have BBA)

[young hill]

corsica and sardinia help alot with airports right?

[young hill]

do u also have fighters over the zone

and how many naval bombers do you have

[native gorge]

About 4.5k fighters and 1.3k naval bombers (probably more but thats all thats showing up on the region)

[young hill]

do you actually cover the whole airzone?

[native gorge]

As in air superiority?

[median socket]

Any of this navy stuff doesnt matter you just kill their mini task forces and slowly wittle down whoevers navy your attacking (this only applies in sp)

[young hill]

no does the circle cover the whole airzone

[native gorge]

Oh

[glacial steeple]

huh

[native gorge]

Hold on let me get more air bases up

[young hill]

casey explain no dlc naval bomber

i assume they r good

r they

[native gorge]

Okay so i have two sets of planes that cover the whole english channel

Does air superiority help?

[glacial steeple]

imagine if you cant put AA on BB

[young hill]

I SAID EXPLAIN

HOW THEY WORK

[young hill]

ofc

[glacial steeple]

well inve explained it

wait nvm

[young hill]

how use

[glacial steeple]

they integrated MtG

its the same

i just woke up

[wild rune]

bro is like 5 hours late

[young hill]

guh

[glacial steeple]

i was sleeping

[glacial steeple]

you click airzone with an air mission

[wild rune]

sleep is fire

[glacial steeple]

and assign the planes to this mission

like naval strike

or port strike

ans they they try to hit the enemy ships provided they have enough spotting

[lilac orbit]

What support companies should I put in my medium tank divisions? I usually put Field hospitals, Armored recon, Signal, Logistics, and Flame tanks, but I’ve heard people say they replace signal with flame tanks, and I see people use armored maintenance companies and helicopters? So I really don’t know the meta and would love some help

[glacial steeple]

thats pretty good

logistics is just the best support company now

with individual excellence

field hospitals are necessary

armored assault engineers are mandatory, so are flame tanks

thats 4 slots

and then ranger recon/LT recon/paralights usually

[lilac orbit]

K, Thx

[glacial steeple]

its mandatory for the terrain buffs

if you dont have terrain buffs then your tanks are bad

[native gorge]

Ik NSB is good but the planes man...

The planes

[deft gale]

why can I cant put some ships in here? I have port nearby but Free France is dominating this area?

[glacial steeple]

plane dlc very bad imo

[native gorge]

BUT THE PLANES

Also i just want to steal navies

[glacial steeple]

planes are always same design

[native gorge]

Ill just think about it for now, you know a good marine template?

[glacial steeple]

all dlc no dlc

whats being run

[native gorge]

All i got rn is AAT

[glacial steeple]

based...

[native gorge]

I like beeg sweden

[glacial steeple]

should be able to do something similar to this

more marine less mountaineer cuz no flame

needs +50% amphib buff

[native gorge]

👌

[native gorge]

so uh i dont have the extra battalion slots

is this a good one?

[glacial steeple]

gotta get one maxed out

its easy

just exercise units pre war

[native gorge]

but im in a war 😭

[glacial steeple]

its alright, 200 break is a bit low

[neat widget]

Basically less losses due to higher HP, also mountaineers also fight in other terrain types

[native gorge]

pioneers doesnt give much either

like 20ish more break

thats it

[glacial steeple]

no dlc sucks for break

gotta add tanks

[native gorge]

that helped

only problem is im now 44+ atk on amphib

[glacial steeple]

yeah

thats how it goes

who are you playing

[native gorge]

☝️

[glacial steeple]

ohh

idk how to sweden the manpower is so bad

but youre not finland OP army buffs

you also only get the L-62 landsverk spawn in

other than the captured tiger variant

which is quite good but fascist only

and the fascist path is bad

[fierce idol]

what kind of divisions and battle plans do i need in order to successfully conquer france as germany?

[stoic seal]

france is pretty easy to conquer as germany

just use some good airforces

[fierce idol]

no dlcs, do I just go air focuses to rush 40s fighters?

[light knoll]

don't even need that

france is literally free

[fierce idol]

yeah, but see, I don't know what i'm doing

like on a scale of 1 to 10, i'm like at a 2

[light knoll]

then just play around with stuff, try to learn what everything does, can watch the beginners guide. you'll learn eventually

~~ if you want to cheese france you use paratroopers and immediately cap them as any nation but you won't learn much from that ~~

the normal way is the historical way, of attacking the Netherlands and then Belgium and going through there to attack france

don't try to push through the maginot lol its lvl 10 forts

[fierce idol]

well obviously

my problem is that I kinda just get stuck over the french/belgian border

[light knoll]

could be a few reasons, hard to know whats the issue

but just learn the game more

[fierce idol]

what does a good battle plan look like?

like is it literally just offensive line + breakthrough

[light knoll]

to beat france that should be enough yes

you can micro but you don't really need to

shouldn't need to at least

[fierce idol]

think it was my airforce then

[neat widget]

I mean you can

[neat widget]

Micro is really encouraged when you're facing all but the slightest resistance

[vale rock]

what is the best template and plane/tank designs for latest dlcs

[light knoll]

yeah you definitely can, just wouldn't recommend to a new player when there's much easier alternatives

[light knoll]

its definitely optimal just not necessary

and is harder for newer players obviously

[fierce idol]

so like no dlcs, how do I get a good airforce?

[sudden meadow]

Is it worth creating minelayers

[native gorge]

How do i spot ships faster

[vale rock]

what the hell is coal

i didnt played this game 2 years from now its like hoi5 😢

[wild rune]

No

[wild rune]

Research radar

[wild rune]

Resource that limits the usefulness of your factories but after like 1.17.2 nobody really noticed it now

[vale rock]

so is it important to look it or can i just play like old ways

[wild rune]

Play like old ways

If ur playing italy you are going to have to trade coal from germany tho

[vale rock]

im playing germany

thanks for help!

[wild rune]

Check pins

[inner mountain]

it seems to me that the constitutional states cant capitulate

so how am i suppose to win

if they dont care about victory points

[serene karma]

they do

They have so many vps

Go take new York

Chicago

Remember that ur cores are their cores too

[rancid bramble]

guys can someone help me, yesterday i bought hoi, and i wanted to mod but i couldnt get the dowser to find the mods

[cold bloom]

Launch from Steam and you should get more launching options

if the launcher doesnt work, there is a 3rd party one in the pins of #tech-support

[uneven abyss]

@glacial steeple hey what's mountain artillery? I see almost nothing of it and only found it in Romania's focus tree

[glacial steeple]

buff to artillery

[uneven abyss]

Ok thanks

[fierce idol]

for germany, is it worth cancelling MEFO bills on 4yp and stabilising with the price controls decisions?

[inner sparrow]

nah

only if u cant manage mefo right

but if u can its not worth it

[fierce idol]

how do you manage mefo?

[inner sparrow]

with price control and stealing gold

u can steal gold twice from denmark and from poland

also cap denmark and dont accept their surrender and ofc dont forget to get norway

[fierce idol]

also, is 1936 germany able to defeat the netherlands if I want their rubber, and how do I defend the east indies when ww2 breaks out?

[vale rock]

How can i get "assault engineer company"??

[half glade]

pretty sure you need a special research

for armoured engineering vehicles or something

[dusky cloak]

U need special research

It's one of the first ones to pop out in the menu though so it's not that hard to find

[cold prism]

guys, i'm new and i dont know what i'm doing

is there any tips?

[oak jasper]

Right now, I'm trying to design a (1940 US) infantry template. My baseline is 9 infantry, engineer, armored recon, and support arty+AA+anti-tank.

Is it worthwhile to try to cram in a field hospital? Right now, I'm leaning towards "delete support anti-tank and 1x infantry, add the hospital and an anti-tank battalion".

[shut iris]

any idea how modern tanks interact with doctrine boni? Do they get them from medium and heavy tanks? or also from light tanks?

[cold prism]

what is a template???

[shut iris]

for mp or sp? because usually anti tank matters less in SP

[oak jasper]

Single-player. Way too new to screw around with MP.

[shut iris]

What do you want to use them for? just Holding the Line?

[cold prism]

guys, what am i supposed to do in this game???

ik what i should do

but idk how to do

i'm new

like construction and production

[oak jasper]

Have you watched any tutorials and/or played the in-game tutorial?

[cold prism]

yeah

i have

[vale rock]

how can i make special research? from scientist or smt like that

[cold prism]

but i understand some stuff but not alot of it

they say italy is the most begginer friendly

but it's still hard

[oak jasper]

Build the appropriate experimental facility (ideally close to a supply hub), recruit a scientist if you don't already have one, assign that scientist, and wait for breakthrough progress until you can start a special project.

[cold prism]

i have one question

i saw some person on youtube playing sweden

they had a focus tree ofc

BUT

he had like MUCH more stuff to chose from

i just had like 30 to focus on

but he had EXTREMLY MUCh

[oak jasper]

My guess is he has more DLC than you? Italy should have a pretty decently sized focus tree.

[cold prism]

i mean sweden

so i need dlc?

[shut iris]

There is a generic focus tree, that for example Siam has. If you don't have the DLC for the Scandinavian Countries, they use the generic focus tree

with the DLC you get the focus trees for those countries

[cold prism]

how do i use thta?

how do i use genric focus tree?

[shut iris]

what might also be good to know, that many focus trees are setup in a way, so they hide big paths that you didn't pick , and went for something mutally exclusive. So for example if you go communist, the other paths will dissapear, so way less clutter

[cold prism]

yeah, i learnt that from a guide

but

[shut iris]

Basically this is generic focus tree and it is kinda bad. Basically a placeholder. For most smaller nations that don't have their own focus tree yet

[cold prism]

yeah, but one more question

if i play as a democratic country, i can't go war on any countries

but i can wait for 100 world tension

[shut iris]

yep, that is normal

either you need to get war goals from your focus tree

switch ideology

or wait until world tension is high enough

[cold prism]

how do i go war at other countries as a democrtaic country (sweden)

waht is ideology?

[shut iris]

with generic focus tree or their own custom focus tree?

[shut iris]

democratic, communist, facist, non-aligned

[cold prism]

what is non-aligned?

[shut iris]

like Poland for example

[cold prism]

presidents?

[shut iris]

basically any idealogy that doesn't fit the other

[cold prism]

so i can go war on coun tries if i have facist and communist?

and non-aligned?

[shut iris]

yeah, you can go to war easiest if you are communist or facist

I think non-aligned has some restrictions too

[cold prism]

oooohhh

how do i change ideology?

btw, thank you so much for the help :D

[dusky cloak]

<@&846894118219022336>

<@&846894118219022336> wake up pls

[sacred patrol]

imagine scamming for a living, being a lonely ass loser with no job bcs of the current market and staying in front of your computer, and rather than at least trying to find a job or enjoy life the way other normal unemployed people do, youre in a server full of people who love history tryna promote scams

[dusky cloak]

Pretty sure that's a bot though

[karmic terrace]

Is there any such thing as a defensive tank template

[fierce idol]

2 bots

[real cave]

how does this even work

[dusky cloak]

They give u manpower to garrison

[vague perch]

Has anyone else done the Trotsky USSR path where you can get those "stir the proletariat" decisions? Does that still work if you turn off La Resistance? I hate the spy mechanic so much

[real cave]

and i cant request it, exactly

how can i need more contribution if im genuinely the only one in the war

[dusky cloak]

Haven't played the new faction though sadly though I think you gotta do the faction goals

[real cave]

i basically have everything at 75% or higher, the entire new mechanic just seems not thought through at all

[karmic terrace]

If im defending an area I only need air superiority in that area and not in the areas im being attacked from right

[hexed parcel]

Can a Field Marshal/General be a Theorist?

[alpine pivot]

Opinions?

[elfin crystal]

i js got by blood alone and no step back, how important is it to researh like better tank armour/engine or the other plane stuff?

like when should i research it

[serene karma]

Yes

[serene karma]

Bad

[serene karma]

Plane frame is important and modules are too

Tank chassis is not as important as modules

[alpine pivot]

can you help me with it?

[serene karma]

Upgrade gun asap

[serene karma]

Remove arty

[alpine pivot]

?

better?

[elfin crystal]

is chassis the like foundation?

[serene karma]

Yes

[serene karma]

Yes

Add medium flames if possible

[alpine pivot]

ill make them

[cold prism]

guys

sweden has low manpower

how do i get more???

[alpine pivot]

go to helping lounge 2

[cold prism]

ok

[stray trellis]

anything else in this template?

like logistic when I push them to 36cw?

[dusky cloak]

Yeah remove signal companies 🤗

And get mechs

[stray trellis]

Mechs are?

Maintenance?

[hexed parcel]

Signals give initative

[stray trellis]

ah ye

[dusky cloak]

Mechanized troops

[hexed parcel]

Needed on most tanks

[stray trellis]

havent mech researched yet its 1938

xD

[hexed parcel]

Add more tanks

Get to at least 400 soft attack

8/7s

[dusky cloak]

Yeah but some support companies are better

Like field hospital

[hexed parcel]

No

[dusky cloak]

Yes

!

[hexed parcel]

Signal is far better than field hospitals for tanks

Field hospitals help for hp and less losses

Don't really need it if your tanks r good

[dusky cloak]

It also lowers the xp ur losing technically

[stray trellis]

Noted

[hexed parcel]

You don't lose xp when ur in a war

👍

[dusky cloak]

I don't mean that

Troop xp

Also more mp is more mp

[hexed parcel]

Same applies

You dont lose xp if you're using troops

[dusky cloak]

Did iniative get buffed in the dlc or something

[stray trellis]

buddy aid I should replace engineer for Logistic

cuz I got flame tanks

[dusky cloak]

You lose xp when ur using troops cause of mp lost

[stray trellis]

(its single player btw)

[hexed parcel]

Higher initative means a higher chance of reinforcing

Meaning you cant get reinforce memed as easily

[stray trellis]

471 Soft attack

[hexed parcel]

That'll do

[dusky cloak]

I mean I'm assuming ur using the divisions to attack anyways so why would u get reinforced memed

[stray trellis]

i srsly need a google doc with templates

like standard single player templates

[hexed parcel]

Defending*

[fossil dove]

Guys, should I use tactical bombers instead of strategic bombers or close air suport?

[hexed parcel]

Think about it this way

[dusky cloak]

Cas is king 👑

[hexed parcel]

If you know ur gonna take loses

Take field hospitals

If you can hold and micro well

[fossil dove]

Ok, but I like strategic bombing, should I use TB instead of SB

?

[hexed parcel]

Signal companies are FAR better

[dusky cloak]

I barely touch Signal companies cause doctrine already gives you the initiative u need

[hexed parcel]

Plus signals boost planning speed

[dusky cloak]

Guess I'll try it later

[hexed parcel]

Planning speed is CRUICAL

[fossil dove]

I see that most countries start with some TB's so I don't know if it's a food idea to make SB's instead

*good

[dusky cloak]

Actually why not just use both 🤯

[stray trellis]

Nad I use this as basic line holder

while my tanks attack

[fossil dove]

Well, they pretty much do the same thing

[hexed parcel]

Signals would help but they still work

[fossil dove]

Minus the close air suport

And I want to use them for strategic bombing

[dusky cloak]

Strategic bomber has the name soo

[fossil dove]

Yes, but BOTH do strategic bombing

[dusky cloak]

Also logistics striking is pretty good you should do that instead

[stray trellis]

an infantry attack template would look like the SP Artillery one?

[dusky cloak]

Then TBs Ig just use the cheaper one

[dusky cloak]

U shouldn't be using infantry for attack unless you have a specific doctrine-

[fossil dove]

Ok, so I better use SB's for strategic bombers instead of TB's

Thanks

[hexed parcel]

I mean besides Soviets and China but yeah ur right

[dusky cloak]

Also it's just infantry spam

[hexed parcel]

Inf spam China and Soviets r broken

[dusky cloak]

Like just put infantry on all the squares and you should be fine

[night zealot]

i have this guys on patrol and theyre not increasing my naval dominance

[stray trellis]

Ye but when I wanna invade turkey

they have hills and mountains

[dusky cloak]

Then use mountaineers

[shut edge]

question

is there a way to cheese the mefo bills

[stray trellis]

oki

[shut edge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hkn1nC1aXaY&t=85s

The reason why I ask is because in this video it talked about mefo cancelling, basically after price controls you cancel the mefo bills and then just spam the price control decisions

[vital geode]

I cant think of one. However, you should steal gold before you make a RK so you can get all the gold from a capped country

And try to win fast

If you cap the UK before the US joins, you can get autarky achieved very easily as you have access to all the resources from the British Empire

[shut edge]

well ofc

[indigo sapphire]

should i always buy stuff from international market get production licenses and also get lend lease as Estonia?

[stray trellis]

Armor Signals are stronger than the normal signals I suppose?

[vital ingot]

HELP!

hey guys I just bought the game today and I've been trying to learn some stuff, one of the things that got me shocked is how hard it is to actually find a guide that writes down baseline historical Germany national focus and also technology research, just like a baseline I can trust and play around it while I learn it and maybe tweak it somewhere down the line.
So can someone pls help me with Germany historical national focus tree and researches?

[silent peak]

firstly don't play germany for your first game it's too complicated for a guy that just bought the game

You would need to understand all 3 armies to play germany

[vital ingot]

I've learned some stuff about thing and I can carry myself a little maybe but just been really confused with where to find baseline trees as they are important

[silent peak]

basically

wait a sec let me load up my game

like wdym by baseline trees

national focus?

[vital ingot]

yea national focus and technology researches and in what order should I get each one...

[silent peak]

so

[vital ingot]

1. The Four Year Plan

2. Remilitarize the Rhineland

3. Construct the Reichsautobahn

4. Autarky Efforts

5. Institute Price Controls

6. Führerprinzip

7. The Spanish Civil War Begins

8. Party Chancellor Bormann

9. Accelerate the Rearmament Program

something like this but for researches too

[silent peak]

uh

don't play four year plan if you are a noob

prioritize economic growth is much easier and low risk

remilitarize rhineland first and then prioritize economic growth

[vital ingot]

you see, what I meant earlier is exactly this that I don't know what to do and what not to do, and there isn't a source which I can find, every video on youtube assume you know everything or is trying to teach you where is production tab XD

[silent peak]

unfortunately

youtube has little to no good tutorials

basically all the good ones are chinese

not saying anything racist here but yeah that's the truth

[vital ingot]

XD

[silent peak]

there are also tricks and stuff you need to learn along the way

[vital ingot]

so where can I learn them

wiki?

[silent peak]

they are in chinese

usually the best ones are on bilibili

i don't really know other platforms but yeah

[vital ingot]

oh

that sucks

[silent peak]

I could help u a bit though

dm?

[vital ingot]

yea I would love to

[glacial steeple]

bormann??

what is this focus order

[stray trellis]

What is a good Paratrooper template?

I have to land from Venezuela into MExico

[glacial steeple]

pins

[vital ingot]

xd idk mate just got it in a steam community guide

[stray trellis]

Cant find anything regarding paratrooper there 🤔

[glacial steeple]

sorry

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866823601080369172/1359017573928275968/stiopahasdementia.gif

[stray trellis]

gonna save that :yop

[hexed parcel]

This good for paratrooping uk or no

[stray trellis]

how can i not win this?

[elfin crystal]

am i supposed to be able to resarch this? i'e not researched the first one and before today it necer let me (i did just get all the DLC could be that)

[thorn crow]

germany just remilitrarixed 3 times in a row.its unhistorical

[grand iris]

How do i get this guy in charge

its iraq

is it a focus or event

or what do i need to do to get that guy

[civic hare]

welp netherlands just invaded me but they are an idiot

oh wrong photo

they do not know whats coming

I came here cuz of japan tho

I know what they do in 1941

[sleek current]

does anyone have a mod that extends the game limit past 1949

[elfin crystal]

road to 56

@sleek current

[sleek current]

thank you

[elfin crystal]

lmao why?

[elfin crystal]

you worried about usa?

[civic hare]

I just got done taking out the polish

[civic hare]

yes

I will be most likely still preparing to do barbarosa

[elfin crystal]

ohh right i didnt notice the allies war lmao i just thought they randomly declared on you

uh

well

[civic hare]

japan could help with the soviets but not sure

[elfin crystal]

i can explain roughly my strat to do a germany world conquest if u want

on dm tho

[civic hare]

might need help when it comes to what to research and focus atm

[elfin crystal]

okay

if u want i can help

[main cave]

How does the new navy work

i get that patrol is a flat number and strike force is a multiplier

Are you supposed to have a large fleet on patrol and then an equally large fleet on strike force to get the msot out of the multiplier?

[ornate mantle]

any recommendation's on some countries to play? i mainly play italy just cause even with 1000 hours im still trying to learn and get better.

[elfin crystal]

fascist uk is fun if u havent done that before, u can core the whole of north america

[ornate mantle]

i def need to play a power that uses a lot of navy cause i have never tried to learn how navy works

[hasty belfry]

Britain, US, Italy, Japan.

If you want to play a weaker nation, then play Philippines.

They don’t start with one but there are is a heavy emphasis on building one up.

[ornate mantle]

I might do japan, i just am kind of intimidated of the responsibilty it comes with. like starting all the conflicts and being the main power in that theater. But got the new DLC so i should probaly try them out.

[hasty belfry]

Technically the South American nations, since after they conquer their neighbors they end up with a decent fleet with 4-5 dreadnoughts if I remember correctly.

[glacial steeple]

yea

[ornate mantle]

maybe i make the longest chile challenge, all coastline nothing else. this would be an idea of some kind.

[civic hare]

?

[viscid abyss]

Do I need support aa in my divisions as Germany

Since I’ll have green air

Also what agency branch researches are best

[rain yew]

Why wont it let me do thw anchluss? Ïts saying Ï don’t have 50k+ inf equipment but I have 51k in logistics

[vast raptor]

i think it needs to be in divisions in the field

[light knoll]

if you have full green air everywhere no

[vivid cairn]

Good or bad for Germany to beat Allies and Soviet Union in 1939-1941 ? Single Player?

[native mist]

Can anyone teach me. I am just new to hoi4

[stray trellis]

anyone know this bug? my units are stuck in Porto and wont move at all

[glacial steeple]

bad

[vivid cairn]

And why because i want to understand how the game works

What would you change or add

[glacial steeple]

terrain debuffs, motorized doesnt give stats

looks like a bad tank design too

[vivid cairn]

wait I show you

[glacial steeple]

special forces build is easier

[short loom]

what is the best paratrooper template I can make ?

no matter the cost, I own half of Europe

[short loom]

also how do I lend lease super heavy artillery

[wild rune]

Huh

[short loom]

thanks a lot broski

[glacial steeple]

i stole it from liv idk why it has ACa

ACs*

[short loom]

how the hell do i get this support company

[wild rune]

Armored Car is peak

[olive perch]

Hello. i am completly new to the game. i have watched some tutorials but, they havent been helping me that much. if someone could have a call with me and go over the basics that would be great. its a lot easier for me to learn when i can ask question through the process.

[wild rune]

Marine doctrine

Those are pioneers

[versed rose]

No paratrooper doctrine for airborne tank ig

[short loom]

ah

thx

[carmine thunder]

Can anyone coop me in trying to save this soviet union 🥺

[wild rune]

They're not even at moscow yet

You got this

[glacial steeple]

whats even the disaster here

[short loom]

get spain in the war

[wild rune]

Ship might not be in range

[fervent dove]

I own all of this territory as Greece and have the necessary DLC but I see no decisions to reform the Byzantine Empire, went down the Horror and Fear line

[night zealot]

the whole region has ports and it doesnt show me any red stripes on in

[wild rune]

There is a focus to form byzantium iirc

[wild rune]

You need to make a naval supply thing

Idk

[fervent dove]

yeah I did it, went through it, it says I should have decisions to reform it but this is the second time in a row where i haven't been able to

[wild rune]

Idk

[short loom]

how do I use railway howitzers

and what for

[wild rune]

@cold bloom would you know why byzantium decision isn't showing up?

[wild rune]

Put them near the frontline

[short loom]

ok thx

[wild rune]

They give bonus to stats

[short loom]

thanks

also anyone got a nice division template to storm north africa ?

[wild rune]

Pure inf with logi company

[short loom]

how many inf batallions ?

[wild rune]

The rest of the support companies you can make up

[short loom]

6 inf batallions right ?

[wild rune]

I would go with 18

[glacial steeple]

id go with 6

[short loom]

uh

[glacial steeple]

actually depends

[wild rune]

Casey knows better than I

[glacial steeple]

if youre like

afghanistan

no units to fill width or reinforce

id go with like 12/0

[short loom]

well the situation is this

[glacial steeple]

cuz you lose less

[short loom]

and i'm planning to invade the soviets

all of west europe is either me or my puppets

i'm 3rd in the world

[glacial steeple]

holy poor management

[short loom]

these are just uh puppets units I just use for garrison

so which advice would you give me ?

also legit wtf do i do of these

[wild rune]

Where tanks

[wild rune]

Also same on mech as artillery AA and AT is crazy

[short loom]

I use very mech-expensive medium tank divisions

two first army groups are infantry, 3rd is tanks, last one is garrison

[versed rose]

How long has that railway gun line been producing

[wild rune]

Put more on fighters and take some from ur AT AA and Arty and put them on Mech

[short loom]

not even a year

[short loom]

ok thanks

I have 24k mech tho

[versed rose]

Why are you making both mediums and modern tanks, I'd ditch the modern tanks because they're worse personally

[short loom]

well good question yes

DAMN

japan fell

just britain to take care of now

oh yeah and the whole americas as well

how do you see how long has a war been lasting for

LETS GO I GOT A NUKE LOL

[elfin crystal]

what does each one do?

[stray trellis]

Is in the mod "player lead conference" also the "State trasnfer tool"?

[left glacier]

You can invest in their industry, delay the negotiation for a time, or say no

[left glacier]

They are separate mods

[fervent dove]

I own all of this territory as Greece and have the necessary DLC but I see no decisions to reform the Byzantine Empire, went down the Horror and Fear line

Second time trying to reform Byzantine as Greece and both times the decision to reform it never showed up

[left glacier]

You went down Megali Ideal?

Ah ok

[fervent dove]

yeah but for some reason the decision to reform byzantium doesnt show up

[left glacier]

@fervent dove You need to control Yugoslavia

Full control, not by puppet

[fervent dove]

shouldn't the decision still show up though? Its not even in the decisions menu

[fervent dove]

I'll try this anyway thanks

[left glacier]

Actually. Not a requirement if you don't have Battle for the Bosporus.

[elfin crystal]

yeah man i can read, i meant like what does each one do long term for me? how do i benefit

[neat widget]

I believe there is a variat with bftb and a variat without bftb if i'm not mitsaken

and the variat without requires you to control yugo

[left glacier]

without bftb, you need Yugoslavia. With Bftb, you just need greece and all of turkey

[left glacier]

You don't really get any benefits short term, though you can boost their industry count so you can take over Greece later and have a bit more factories

[short loom]

bro i have air superioty over 70% in all these regions what's wrong can somebody help me

[native mist]

Can anyone teach me. I am just new to hoi4

[dusty sandal]

apparently you do not

[short loom]

try and see stuff around for 300 hours and you'll know to play

for some reason when i remove the planes it works

[dusty sandal]

check the pins, there are good tutorials in those messages

other than that, best advice to give is READ
take your time, if you see something red, you're probably doing something wrong so pause the game and read

[elfin crystal]

i said long term 🗿 but okay thankyou

also yeah i assumed it was sumn like that

[civic hare]

am having trouble with my war but once I get paratroopers I should be able to take out the UK

[elfin crystal]

i js said no bc i plan on alliancing italy and they can just have

ill do another game where i take italy then ill invest and see wot happens

[left glacier]

These are some of the game's newest beginner guides made with the help of HOI4 youtubers. I would say that it is best that you learn the tutorial to get at least the basics of the game, then watch how other people play hoi4 and see if what they do works out for you. It's a lot of trial and error @short loom

[short loom]

it's not me ?

[elfin crystal]

ahaha lmao

i was so confused asw

[left glacier]

Oh my bad. 😆

[left glacier]

@native mist

[civic hare]

OMG

[left glacier]

Lack of sleep can sometimes get you somedays

[left glacier]

Do you have air superiority over england?

[neat widget]

Good luck

[short loom]

don't worry broski

[halcyon nebula]

how do i even begin learning hoi4?

[open radish]

Guys

I made a tiger variant

29 soft attack

37 hard

137 piercing

130 armor

51 break

Is this any good? I dont understand tank stats

[dusty sandal]

it's ass
piercing and hard attack are irrelevant in singleplayer
you're not mentionning the cost but based on the armor stat I'd say it's above 30ic which is way too much
armor is too high, soft attack is too low
breakthrough is good if not overkill

also, heavy tanks aren't recommended for singleplayer, except for spacemarine armormemes

[open radish]

Im playing multiplayer

Thats why im focousing on more anti tank stuff

[dusty sandal]

then it's not great
this is what a tank shouldl ook like, and it's always a tank destroyer

the canon is heavy 2 until you get heavy 3/High velocity 3 which are both viable

(sorry the template's in french, it's not mine)

[open radish]

Np

I only got cannon 2

[dusty sandal]

that's fine until you reach 1941

germany and most other countries can rush the heavy 3 by mid 41-jan 42

[open radish]

What is the min/ideal hard attack I should have?

[open radish]

Humm,ok

[dusty sandal]

as much as possible

although you must keep a large quantity of soft attack too, you'll also need to push inf

[open radish]

I cant get more than I already sent you

[dusty sandal]

you sure you're using secondary canons ?

[rain yew]

Can someone explain what supply Ïs to me ;-;

[glacial steeple]

it being in french is pretty nice

[open radish]

Lemme get them

[civic hare]

I can easily

[night zealot]

never understanded why meta tanks have so little reliability

[dusty sandal]

because you don't take loses from low reli if you dn't take attrition
and you take attrition by attacking mountains/snow/marshes/deserts (which you just have not to do) or fighting in low supply area (which you don't do inthe first place because of fuel) and because of modifiers such as snow/heat (you can ignore heat, not snow, just don't attack then)

also, hoi4 is only an excellence-based meta as divs with high stats will always win against a wall of divs with low stats (not accounting for air)

so you want and need the highest combat stats first, org and HP then, speed and reli are at the bottom of the barrel in term of priority

[night zealot]

Is having none atrition in a battle that common?

[dusty sandal]

most of the time, yes
but even if you get some attrition it's no big deal because more stats = you push faster and take some attrition while lower stats = you don't push and take losses from enemy instead

[night zealot]

well i never played multiplayer, but in my games most of the times my army was never fully without atrition. In barbarosa, for example, i only use had it during the begining, when i pushed the captured railways couldnt keep up with the advance but as the front line was usually empty or with few divisions i just pushed out of supply, even when i did have supply there was always mud, snow, something to kill my trucks. I get it that in multiplayer thats hardly common, but with my time playing hoi4, at least half of it my divisions had low supply

The alternative would be to build more supply posts that take around half a year to build

[idle arch]

What is a good division template if I'm using sp arty instead of mediums

[dusty sandal]

in multiplayer, if you outrun your supply lines, you die. Simple as
you run out of fuel = it takes you 6 days to retreat a single tile and you have no stats

you NEVER do that willingly unless the enemy has no divs left

and in mp you do build supply hubs/ports in some areas, generally minors do them in batches with they 300% buff for 3 hubs (they build them in 2 months)
you also don't attack when there's snow because, you know, -40% attack and -60% breakthrough

[glacial steeple]

@neat widget is this a good starting div?

[civic hare]

can we just get air supority

[halcyon nebula]

can we just get a better tutorial

[neat widget]

why the cavalry?

to increase org?

[hexed parcel]

That defence makes me want to cry

[neat widget]

Yeah this division sucks

[hexed parcel]

Maybe when hoi5 releases

[neat widget]

Presumably they have basically no industry

In which case you probably want military police

Provides the same stats as engineers (minus the terrain bonuses and entrenchment)

[halcyon nebula]

i want to play hoi4 so bad but i just dk where to start

[glacial steeple]

colombia starts with it idk

[neat widget]

Ah I see

RIP Colombia

[glacial steeple]

100 for 100%

[glacial steeple]

6 of them

[neat widget]

RIP

Better turn communist then

[hexed parcel]

Erm actually you've got 102% defence

[glacial steeple]

i wanted to play venezuela and then i was shocked by colombia's army size

[neat widget]

@civic hare yeah if you're at 0 manpower you probably need more manpower

[glacial steeple]

and then i saw that

which 6 divisions is a lot

but damn

they are not good

[hexed parcel]

I really wanna make a build

Of like

2000 2 widths

[neat widget]

Oof resistance is so high

[hexed parcel]

[neat widget]

That explains a lot about the thing happening in Helping Lounge

[hexed parcel]

See if I survive or not

[neat widget]

Poland's about to revolt entirely

💀

[raven snow]

is hardness important when designing a tank

[neat widget]

It has an impact but it's low on the list of considerations

[cold garnet]

prtly cuz in MP you can lose more tanks in total if your reliability comes at the cost of other stats

in SP high rel is good as long s they push

[idle arch]

Hi friend long time

[cold garnet]

hi

[dusty sandal]

tank design ? not really because there's almost nothing that affects it other than the chassis
tank template ? definitely. That's part of why you use mech to replace the cav

[halcyon nebula]

can someone teach me how to play?

[neat widget]

@flint epoch @civic hare why are there no units in East Prussia? I'd imagine an encirclement in Pomerania is your first goal

[glacial steeple]

and like 10 hp extra

[neat widget]

5 hp per unit, which is an increase in hp of 20%

Which is quite good

[glacial steeple]

10 because indiv excellence doesnt buff cav

and theres no other inf doctrines (unless you dont have logi?)

[neat widget]

Fair

Right

But in that case you'd want motorized anyways since that has 5 more hp than cav

Or is that still too little of a buff to the division

@trail topaz how confident are you in taking Colombia, Ecuador, and Chile while also holding off the remaining Brazillian forces

[idle arch]

What is the template when using sp arty

[stray trellis]

Im getting convoy raided by u boats but my Destroyer are useless

[worthy grove]

Disable the convoy routes to spare your time

[stray trellis]

they are raiding around my island

[worthy grove]

Ai cheats so you cant kill its u boats since the navy update, you just need to either cope with it or send in your entire navy

[stray trellis]

I produce tons of these DD right now

to catch them

[worthy grove]

Build a radar then

[stray trellis]

a radar station?

[worthy grove]

Yes

Naval bombers can help too, dont forget to have fighters alongside them

[idle arch]

What is the template when using sp arty

[worthy grove]

10 arty 8 trucks

Engineers support and logistics

36 width

[idle arch]

What Is the org

[worthy grove]

30-35

Tanks need to have low org

[idle arch]

Org of doom and despair

Ok what the soft attack

[worthy grove]

900? If you have howi 2's

Breakthrough may suck ass tho cuz its spg

[idle arch]

Time to use cheats

[worthy grove]

Play ironman

[idle arch]

I was using 36 width 2 aa 8 truck 8 sp arty

[glacial steeple]

no??

org is just irrelevant

[idle arch]

Son I'm crine

[worthy grove]

Opinion so bad that my eyes hurt

Org on inf is the biggest difference, On tanks its a suggestion, org is very revelant

[neat widget]

Updated, slightly controversial tank design for singleplayer for those wondering

And yes, if you're wondering, you can and in a lot of situations should replace light tank recon with ranger recon

[idle arch]

Why am tracks

[worthy grove]

Saar

Too much amtracks

Too much aa

[neat widget]

Special forces bonuses

[worthy grove]

Remove 1 amtrack and this aa

So its clean 36 width

And fits well

[neat widget]

36 width was never the clean width, 35 width is

[worthy grove]

You get 1.5% less for having 36

If you do math 36 is superior

Btw isnt individual excellence still bugged?

It didnt give me hp last time

[neat widget]

It's no longer bugged

It gives you 5 hp per infantry/mech/mot unit

As long as you have logistics in there

Which we do explicitly for this reason

[worthy grove]

Large unit tactics are still in my heart

[swift burrow]

how much manpower do I need as Hungary to just bully my neighbors into giving me free land

[worthy grove]

0, 900 2 width cav

[swift burrow]

like how much do I need for Romania to just give me Transylvania

[idle arch]

This is what I am using rn

[worthy grove]

Oy vey

[swift burrow]

holy that shit that's expensive

[worthy grove]

Those 2 line aa's make it expensive

[swift burrow]

I thought my 20 factories as Lebanon would be fine for an actual industry

[worthy grove]

Removing them and adding 1 more tank will be perfect

[swift burrow]

I was so wrong

[idle arch]

Nah not really I just did convert strat tanks aren't the problem

[neat widget]

You get like 70 attack less with using a 38 width instead of a 36 width in various terrains, but when you already have 1080 terrain modified attack, you're better off reducing your manpower and equipment losses than increasing that number

Which is basically what's happening here

[idle arch]

My school banned discord

[swift burrow]

nd you're playing hoi4 in school

[neat widget]

That's why we're using 38 width here (39 with AA) instead of 36 width

[swift burrow]

we have bigger problems to solve

[idle arch]

Aren't u not seeing the org

[neat widget]

And again special forces buffs counteract this somewhat

[idle arch]

Nope my school put a software in my computer

[worthy grove]

Add more support companies then

You will have much more org!

[swift burrow]

why

is it a school computer?

[idle arch]

I did look at the template again

[idle arch]

Idk

[worthy grove]

It was sarcasm

Also arent spgs

Having 2 width now?

Something aint adding up as I look at it

[swift burrow]

guys how many factories do I need as Lebanon do I need to not have 0 industry

because even 20 dude

[worthy grove]

0

Click leave game and pick a country that has 10+ factories

[swift burrow]

like how many civs do I need do start making mils

[swift burrow]

nope

that's not fun

for me

[worthy grove]

Dont make civs as a country that doesnt know what a train is

[swift burrow]

it's also not fun having no factories for like a year but we manage

[swift burrow]

I get 5 free civs and 3 mils

from the focus tree

the generic tree

[worthy grove]

Idk mate reverse version join axis and Paradrop france

[swift burrow]

I would

I can't civil war

my country is 1 state big

[worthy grove]

Then play luxembourg

It has a monarchist event

[idle arch]

Wait how do I fix the template

[swift burrow]

love being from a small irrelevant nation

[worthy grove]

Do you have the latest version?

[swift burrow]

see the Bulgarians got a nice focus tree and everything

why couldn't I be Bulgarian yk

[worthy grove]

Bulgaria is a thorn to play

[neat widget]

Not only do you have a limited civilian industry, you also have a limited number of building slots

[swift burrow]

I usually go for democratic Balkan unification

[neat widget]

You should probably build as many mils as possible

[swift burrow]

which is NOT easy

[neat widget]

and yeah maybe paradrop france

[swift burrow]

how

[worthy grove]

Play mengijang

[swift burrow]

I'm basically locked into the allies

[neat widget]

if you can get independent that is

[swift burrow]

I'm not Syria I can't instantly flip fascist from a civil war

[worthy grove]

Win ww2 take 1 state do a Revolt

[idle arch]

No

[swift burrow]

not happening before France falls unless I become sun tzu and beat china all by myself

[worthy grove]

That explains the org

[swift burrow]

and get 1500 autonomy

from my volunteers

[worthy grove]

Beating china

Is the hardest thing in hoi4

[swift burrow]

they have so many divisions

[worthy grove]

All my world conquests get extended by 4 years because of 1000 kuomintang spam and their entrenchment buffs

[swift burrow]

so my 2 9/0 divs aren't breaking through

maybe in Spain

if I am fast

I could do well

China

no

[worthy grove]

China is the best to grind rivers tho

[swift burrow]

at most I capture Nanjing and that does nothing

[swift burrow]

and medals

[worthy grove]

I feel you

[swift burrow]

love the permanent supply notification

[idle arch]

What should I do

[swift burrow]

when are we not out of supply

[worthy grove]

Relax your throat and make eye contact

[idle arch]

Pls js answer

[worthy grove]

Reinstall hoi or change the beta version to the newest

[swift burrow]

I've heard that line Artillery isn't really that beneficial

and that support is good enough

I'm not sure

[glacial steeple]

its about tanks

[worthy grove]

On tanks if its under 30 is tragic, if its above 35 its overinvesting ngl

[swift burrow]

Britain guarantees Iraq but I'm in the allies

what happens when I declare on Iraq