#hoi4-general
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so kill them
Resistance is worse if they have an exile government
before sovs
they prolly won't declare
and it's prolly them getting bessarbia tbh
geniunely tho what is that manpower number
they do I checked
533k
Wait err what keybind is to get peacedeals
Maybe i forgot to do those
ALSO
oh I forgot about decimal
son
You need to capitulate all majors
How do I paratroop
As I can legit do operation sealion
paratroopers and supply planes
Is there any way of toggling events back ON after going Spectaror?
And are in africa now
Skip past the doctrine stuff
If I got a nickel for every time someone on the HOI4 Official Discord asked how to use paratroopers, I swear would have enough money to buy EU4 with all DLCs when it is not on sale.
Now I can quickly link this video for them lol
yea the ad said nuh uh
Somethings have changed a bit such as prepare time
they added prep time?
whats afted doctrine
Like 3 days
waht time to di dskip to
guys how do you turn events back on after going spectator?
oh lol
I dont remember, I haven't watched it myself in awhile
If you go into spectator, you stop seeing events
No? Ive seen many spectators have events
youre right
Naval invading is better
These buttons
Should I do operation sea lion?
But you need to invest into the navy a bit
I legit have the abilitys to do it
Sealion is invading the UK
You can do it via air or naval
hmm
sealion buffs air too iirc
Or both
air is slightly easier to do
I should probally
but also boring and worse
try get my garrsions up
Naval is better as you dont get shredded by AA
But you actually have to compete with the royal navy
which isn't too hard to do if you start prepping early enough
Main thing, if you expect your paratroops to have to fight, you should use larger divisions since you are limited by the number of divisions. So 32-38 width
You actually have to risk your ships and have them patrol
but decent ships nuke the royal navy
Wait, paradroops can only have so many being dropped at once now?
I haven't messed with paratroopers since NCNS
Might as well
I don't think so
but there's only so many places you can drop
Well it is limited by your number of transport planes first and foremost
So that's the limit I'm talking about
Ah
Not like you want to drop 10 on one tile like tommykay does
I thought they made it like naval invasions
can't 100 planes drop tons of paratroopers
Well you have to drop them in waves
Of course he'd do that
unpause
You need to set your surface fleet to patrol
Deathstack them
some on patrol some on strike force
none should have naval invasion support?
Maybe after you get dominance
only after the naval invasion actually kicks off
there's no point before you have dominance
Naval invasion support only activates when there is an active naval invasion order
But your naval invasion order hasn't activated
or if there's battle on the coasst
what year is it
1942
Yeah the British are also increasing their naval superiority
have you built any navy from the start of the game
Also just how large is your fleet
Btw, I've had 18w paratroopers do alright with combat
err
besisdes the lines you start with
They arent great, but can counterattack
what
max dockyards
oh
did you make it infinite
nope
wait
DO I also need to deploy and train them
like how I do for planes and tanks/infantry
your navy is getting nuked son
sort of
I actually don't know
I do know, and it is
explain What I must do for it
holy shit 8
your navy might not get nuked
just pull them in from reserves
read pins of #ask-for-help-here
lol
he prolly only has like 4 heavy ships from that tho
and they're all in reserves
I err forgot
Heavy cruisers and light cruisers are 2 very different things
im now building
Well, somewhat different
Just spam destroyers so your capitals have screens
you don't need subs for the english channel
You dont need subs
not necessarily
they're good in this case tho as you need destroyers to screen your ships
so design some
and destroyers are super duper cheap to make
We are telling you to spam destroyers because you need numbers and not quality right now
Usually you would have made light cruisers
You can still land
You just dont get as many buffs
put fighters on the english channel
dude why do you have like 5k on one airport
do you not see red and realize it's bad
Holy overstacked airbase batman
Separate your planes
your planes are wayyyy worse when the bases are overcapacitated
How do people not see red text and realize there is a problem when they see 103748300/600 on an airbase
idk
literally the first thing I learned about air after learning how to move them π
PDX gamers arent known for reading, but can at least understand "green good" "red bad"
Spread them across the uk?
...
what
spread your planes to different air bases
imagine if you had hundreds of planes trying to land on top of eachother
Okay
You have at least 5000 planes in 1 air base
What should you do to solve this
pretty sure that's like a 400 base too
done
should I use improved for my carrier naval bombers or is it fine to just rush a ton with basic
dude
Did you though?
Meanwhile the 1800 capacity airbase with 0 planes on it
π
Camelry OP
English channel is now under my air force
alright
my destroyers
require me to research batterys
Have I ever shown you my cracked mechanized armored car divisions?
Where is that
I dont think so
Germany also starts with destroyers. Just build those
You already have them researched, but this is where you can get more battary research
They have been playing for 4 days gng
This @tulip thorn
yeah but like
Some divisions i also used are below as well
I found that button without any of the dlcs in my first 4 days
i got maus aleardy
and I wrote it off as useless at the time cuz I could just rename
huh
Huh
you mean you made tanks
possible
germany gets insane tank research buffs
Cinema
I literally just overran portions of the soviet army
I mean you don't really need those
They had so many casualties that they capped before I took Minsk and Leningrad
why though π
(I invaded from the caucusses)
Tuff
damn
alrihgt so
Armored Cavalry subdoctrine
oh 
Alright*
subdoctrines are evil
What should I focus on other then naval
Plus UK having access to a 15% division speed guy
we should go back to the times of no doctrines at all
real men do that and then make pure speedy light tanks
Too slow
do you have any of the dlcs
no
They would have slowed down my mech even more
oh does armored cavalry give speed bonuses
oh shit 21 km/h
pretty sure you can go faster
No, stat bonuses
with the right tanks
No
Gas turbine tanks are too slow
No armor, autocannon advanced light tank is too slow
Only 15 km/h I believe
My armored cars went 20.5 km/h while my mech went 20
damn
Late tier armored cars are great
But Holy crap the starting ones suck, especially with a lack of doctrine bonuses
The Italians were holding out for a bit against my 36 width ones
when their surronded by like 5 axis countrys
I accidentally deleted half of my footage from the match I played, but I still got my 6 day Iran war and my 1 year long Soviet invasion
For footage
1 year soviet invasion?
washed
just play germany and sp art spam πΌ
I also took like 300k casualties to their 7.2 million so
I beat them in 1945 in like 6 months I think
Less than 300k
oh I got like a 400k-4.4 mil
but I was battleplanning
I had to invade from the Caucusses
Poland left NATO
and got like 1 encirclement of like 4 guys
still light
Which doctrine do you recommend when playing in South America?
so like how do I convince my occupied countrys to just join me
You are Germany, you get debuffs to that
Why π
For reasons
America already joined the war
Refineries are for rubber
Wth
Not a lot
Who are you playing as
Princely breakways states
So like how the hell am I gonna get my 0 man power to some man power
British raj leftmost path π₯
Raise conscription law
Not you
1941, UK capped, ironman italy. no paragliders
Nah but that was the main problem I faced π₯
i didnt cheese at all
You just need to micro to save your life
Based
idk how but i destroyed the UK navy
I think I went to the left and then they smash through with 7 divs
they had legit like, 30 ships </3
Paraglider πΌ
Like their entire army is 16 divs π₯
i would of
The AI cannot handle the new naval system
I'm saying it's paradrops
oh, no
Any naval bombers and dominance is GONE
i didnt
i dunno how i got 81%
war score in the end
i did beat em in africa n that
and landed on the UK
i think it was cuz of navy
Should I share my gameplay π₯
all this to just do greater italy frfr
should i form rome?
hmm
Greater Italy is a nice shade of green
true
The only time I formed Rome was as a democracy
i was gonna do one save where i formed greater italy, then formed rome
this was gonna be my greater italy save
and the next game would be rome
but then i did that </3
Do greater Italy for the nice shade of green and the division org buff
i feel like it would be abit of a waste of such good oppertunity </3
average european borders
Peak peace deal
Your choice
Do a coinflip
ehhh ill prolly do rome this time, doubt next game ill get as good
Naval inasion issue faced by kimiko
unable to assign divs
Bro it's romania
wait
Just nuke em
THEIR WINNING?
this is so cheap β οΈ
Aight bro what
4 yugoslavias bro
Cinema
Guys do anyone know how navy works
yes
ye
I never used it ever im my life
I use it almost every game
they're
isn't more mecha better
fun but way too often is it just not useful
</3
Is this peak greece?
I could careless if something isnt useful
no
ngl i thought u were the third rome
eat your damn puppets
Ok holdup
I mean not useful as in there's 0 application
navy is so usefull </3
naval invasion
I didnt say it wasnt
not every country can be
and often it's just better to not
wym not every country can be?
try and naval invade hungary
oh well yeah
but most countrys can be naval invaded
plus, it opens up more fronts, confuses the ai, it also allows for encirclements depending on where
also naval bombardment
it also takes like 40 days to do so tho
40 days aint that much </3
my good divs kill them or take their sea before 40 days is up π
romania
white peaced
after i Joined
and im sitll in the war
HOW DO I WHITE PEACE
i already have NSB BBA and GDR what dlcs should i get for christmas
HOW DOES ONE WHITE PEACE THE SOVIET UNION GRAHH
You're the soviet onion right ?
Yeah bro start praying
It's either you or them atp
pov: 200 divs are losing against 5 dudes with sticks:
That always happens to me 
how does one achieve this
everytime ive played greece ive lowk gotten flattened
1000 hours of resetting later
Annexed every part of Italy except the historically Greek region lmao
Bro i dont even know what im doing or how divisions work and their buffs i just learned from some three year old guide that a guy would always put recon rangers on his divs and thats what i do everttime i play any other nation
u just cant cant whitepiece in this game
and all cause the soviets decided to clare war
im stupid
COULDNT PEOPLE LIKE NERF THE AI
whitepeace
cant be that bad bro
HEHEHE
OUT OF AFRICA
and?....
are u blaming this on italy
Historical italy
this is all ur fault bruv
I mean expected atp
Italy was useless back then, still is now
Bro they didn't even get Greece 
they should add a button next to the conditional surrender to white peace if the war has gone on for long enough with no states taken
Soviet west wall is gonna be crazy
yea man
can someone teach me
the ultimate way
to beat the soviet union as germany
Bro why's your manpower so low ?
Like only 40 divs >
so like
I had 100 as italy π
Conscription laws
anyone wanna play as the axis
oh yo hows it going
?
I had 16 divs and i look to the sea, boom british landing at the port with 8 divs
who were you playing as
you said there would be 3 π
?
Princely bs
oh them
wait
forgot
IDEA
Thats it
british ai only declares war if I take lux bel or netherlands righttt?
Medium tanks are the way
What if I took ireland
Major nations have like 2 full armies of 120 including
no
italy
mb for the incorrect tactics
then what
the uk
blocks with their navy
they will beat your ass
Sweat maxxing
so like I lost
Micro maxxing
cold war isn't scripted into this game iirc
js don't πΌ
noob π₯
What should I focus on after taking poland france and other then soviet
wtf is happening in iberia
taking the uk
spam destroyers?
no
and then take soviet after uk?
uk is a bigger threat, deal with them and the us and then the soviets
kill the uk before the us joins
us might be a pest with their naval invasions π₯
So what should I focus on for the naval invasion for the uk
and the us becomes easier than the soviets
light cruisers
killing the uk is boring though
broing
Paratroopers might be the way
PARATROOPERS
like a spring
its 1 am give me a break
broing broing
Isn't naval invasion better
And what time should I have the UK invaded by
Paratrooping is much easier imo even though i've never tried but like sure you can fight the biggest fleet ever
I dont know how to paratroop
Hmm, watch a video on naval invasions then
air
who are you playing as?
and tanks
germany
and light cruisers
medium tanks are best
id personally just get air superiority then just navally invade
much easier
and your not out producing the british in ships
nor are you making better ones
you can
most of the royal navy ends up in the med
Germany
remember, the royal navy has to get naval dominance in like 10 naval zones
you only need it in one
not from my personal playthroughs
How do I deploy troops faster and
fair but british ships are still better
theres this thing on the deployment screen which says force deploy or instant deploy
forgot which name it was
not really...
ai is kinda shit at doing anything
yeah tbh fair idk what i was expecting
Guys how do you get that one achievement to capitulate france and poland with less than 495 casualties or something like that as germany
How do u do that
So it auto deploys once ready?
it auto deploys by itself when it trains fully and it has the equipment
great point i dont even think capitulating both poland and france with that little casulties is possible
def not
i think you might be thinking is capitulating france and poland before 1940
unless you just don't fight them
or 1939 i think it was
before 39 iirc
i just wanna be hungary fr
How do I get this leader in eaw
Its form a mod
Ima trying to do all the oaths
I already did democracy
oh the equastaria
Communist
i got no clue
And facists
never played it
Ok
How do u compelte this focus
oh 1939 start
focus??
its an achievement
and i genuinly personally
have no clue
So show me how to do that
The donβt die for your country one?
bruh so much effort
its like the most simplest thing in the world
lemme just send a pic
lemme try
Yes
UH how od i increase my manpower as india π₯
get rid of maluses
thats what i was asking
so
I should get uk in 1941
malu wat
ik that but you made me move my fingers and click some buttons
too much work
i accidently
sent
it in the wrong thing
this piece of shit
it doesnt auto once another is ready
π€―
then no you cant auto deploy as soon as their ready
gotta do it manually
with labour
fah
you can
if you give a location and it fully trains
Yesh
takes long time tho
no like
yea
what he wants
what he wants is as soon as they are able to be deployed right away
taking over the air above the channel
to be auto'd
this sound good?
anyways time to ask once more before i descend into depression and i start taking harmful hoi4 challenges that make me go bald
anyone wanna do an axis run or smth
against ai?
yeah
sure
peak
im in the uk so i cant confirm the best connection
but like
whatever floats the boat
should we get an italy player or smth
what should be my templates?
we don't need done
Should I do the defense of India act before the civil war just in case
I can rush air as germany pretty well
fair
i prefer to rush the civil war
then once the civil war is done i just take over afghanistan then core it
peak
Cuh
Monachist path for aquileia
whats an good template for germany after poland and france and then invading uk
i would just keep the 9 inf division
and for tanks?
probably add in a artillery division too
uh what i always do is kinda expensive
but like 5 medium tanks and 6 motorized
motorized is mid
well not tanks but more spg
how so?
I do 10 sp art 8 mecha
fair
motorized is cavalry but faster and more expensive
I mean yeah
but you can get it quickly
you can get like 5 or so fully equipped divs
the historicalism is crazy
no heavy tanks?
exactly
i wanna play metro hoi4 with someone but i dont think anyone wants to play that mod
over kill means
the soviets lose
also
why dont soviets get debuffs on their tanks
THE GUN DEPRESSION
quick question whats the best tank div?
Light tanks + infantry enough ?
no
i need the best template for any combat anywhere to work
err dunno
im new
shouldnt soviets get like -30 tank damage since no gun depression
don't use light tanks
Bro I have 70k manpower π₯
But yeah i need 120 light tanks and I have 100
1.3k π₯ now
scraping the barrel exists
2370 pp π₯
I lost all of my advisors π₯
Restarting this
how did you end up like this
Princely breakaway states
so err keep infantry with arty and then for tanks medium with motorized for templates as germany?
9 infantry 3 artillery 1 anti tank
no
line arty kinda sucks
and motorized is mid spare a few cases
I'm trying the right path atp
you don't need anti tank for AI
Queen's army and all dat
ai countries will have tank divs
btw whats the best tank div
if you wanna beat tanks use tds
what would be better
mechanized
for which
it really varies
there's no best
tanks
but my personal favorite is 10 sp art, 8 mecha
plus a few support companies im too lazy to remember
btw should i use motorized over normal infantry?
mecha is good for both technically
but hella expensive for infantry
like HELLA
so only use it if you're extremely late game and have insane surpluses
I'm addicted atp π₯
its for germany
so I can take on uk and then merica and lastly soviet
you're germany?
do u do the cost reduction for it
for like tomorrow
you don't need mecha for infantry like ever
im playing it again
what would be the best templates
after I take most of europe to invade uk
18w marines
like 24 of those can cap england pretty easily lol
Errr
Special forces
SHow me how to do that
please good sir
so like I recruit marines?

what do you think
Paratrooper cheese is lik the only thing I could possibly think of
I need to?
yes
alright
so then
after their ready
get aFRIKA CORPS
and spam light cruisers?
but focus on poland and france
how do I take em out faster before italy declares war on em
rq question
what should be my templates till after uk
just makes 9 inf 1 or 2 artillery trust
Nuh uh
I'm convinced
why is this tile so fat
You must have cooked for a long time
nah
motorized
24 motorized, i stormed through ukraine and belraus
Motorized can indeed be strong if you get that break in the enemy's lines
belarus*
mhm
saw a weakpoint in ukraine
nahh
went from ukraine upto estonia
You don't control estonia right now, did you have to retreat?
didnt bother w tanks, so i went w this
ngl, saw the rivers and decided to just go to latvia once i reached it
i was going for estonia
true
realistically i should
but as italy, i didnt bother w land facilitys lol
idk why ppl dog on motorized so much
because its only good stat is speed, and its speed is lacking in places like forests
i like speed, speed is all i need
Okay motorized has good org too, but other than that
had some smaller 30 pockets offcut from it
all this, when i planned to bow to germany this game and form greater italy
my ahh did not plan on forming rome
In the early game, i have about 1M manpower but 6 military factories and i wanna go against afghanistan and iran
What should i print out ??
Italy can spiral out of control fast
which country is this
i was gonna have 2 saves, 1 where i form rome, and one where i formed greater italy
this was gonna be my greater italy one
The smaller one
but then i was fighting the allies, and i somehow got france to cap to me
instead of germany
The one in orange
mountaineers
I'm thinking of artillery 18W
looking at all the mountains
32 width mountains, focus your entire production on guns and then when you're ready to take on the raj add in a bit of aa
I have 2 research slots 
realistically it would of been a waste to form greater italy, when i got all of france and the UK from the peace deal </3
Only mountaineers or some artillery as well ?
artillery will decrease their performance in mountains, so no
my poor 8/3 mountaineers ,/3
Best I can do is 22 for now
Don't have enough combat xp
Yeah literally just make guns for now
maybe a bit of support equipment for ranger recon
No engineer company
So what should I use in support π₯
ranger recon for the mountain bonuses
infantry equipment and ranger recon will stretch your economy to the limits
You might not even be able to afford the latter
I don't even have ranger recon unlocked yet π₯
Mountaineer tree
Uh i have the simple version i think
You don't have special forces doctrines?
To take Europe and Africa as Luxembourg
How do you get that ?
Oh that
Found it
Elevate the moutaineers ?
Yes
Combat width there is 50 tho
Okay you can fit one
But not two
with 32 width you can fit two because of 33% overflow
50 * 1.33 / 2 = 33.25
Hmm gotcha
Question good sire
How hard would it be to take all of Europe as Luxembourg
There's a penalty for overflow but it's typically less than just not filling your combat width
Go communist, paradrop the Netherlands, and then flank Belgium on both sides
π₯ give up
I saw that exact strategy in a video except he didn't go commie
And then you just expand from there
Aight bro π₯
An island nation
The youtubers have already done this probably π₯
ROME IS BACK
finally
i could form rome cuz i finally integrated bloody albania </3
there have a little empire
I have a romanian and czech puppet
may betray germany
hmmmm
do it, yk you want to
Feel cute, may betray my very helpfull allie
actually
wait
there not helpfull
they are annoying asf
look what they did in romania
only issue is im surrounded
uh
bro im getting destroyed
they wanted the sudeten land
yeah this is unwinable
awe
it isnt unwinnable, just very difficult. i think if you had gotten a full romanian puppet you would be good
My divisions are half imaginary
I didnt except such a early war
wait, how many troops do you actually have?
I also joined their faction not expecting them to kick me after saying no to them
72
i ment like, defeating the axis as hungary
ohhhh
they wouldn't have kicked you if you were in a war
togheter with them
there was no war unfortenautely
how the hell am i supposed to reduce the consumer goods factor
im gone before i sealion britain
Hello. I have a small favor to ask. Does anyone have the map used in decisions when creating a formable country? Could you please send it to me for the mod?
Hey guys i was Wondering If i should any dlc to make hoi4 experience better and if i should also buy it for mods to if so which one?
Switzerland empire
buy all
Check in the game files in gfx
Thank you
Guys got any idea for cheap division for light tanks
conquer all neutral countries in Europe
steal their gold
Good grief, Yugoslavia's focus tree is so lackluster.
Umm well average 1940 historical, right??????
For being YUGOSLAVIA
is soviet union cooked?
Prolly
its 1940 and we already took minskπ
Not really, because Africa is useless.
but britain is at war with soviets
It really boils down to who the player is and who they are playing?
I am Nation Francaise(France) in the run and I am fascist
even Italy isn't hopelessπ
Still learning new things about this game, like I just learned that M hides enemy units and drastically decreases lag... boy I felt like an absolute dummy after discovering that.