#hoi4-general
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i personally like narrower divisions
I don't mind either
you went down the large unit tactic thing
yes
I prefer 36 widths so I can fight easily with my inf and my tanks
wait are you on mobile warfare
yes
i'll show you when you beat them
omg dude
what lol
yk your tank divisions should actually have tanks
they do lol
4k deficit
huh
go into logistics
the notepad thing at the top
next to the deploy thing
yes
im pretty sure that little top bit of brown bar missing is the tanks
their tank divisions have a ton of tank batallions tho
more on those than motorized or mecha
cause i appear to have 72000 surplus weapons
no
you only have 12 mils on guns
nevermind 90000 surplus
and you'll prolly lose that surplus quickly
build tanks
OHH
that kinda sounds wise for now because 5k tank deficit
that's where your tanks are missing
I think that IS the deficit
yeah theyre just slowly producing
cancel them and check again
okay
hes only training one division at a time, so is he leaving it kinda on autopilot?
btw 16 divs is plenty
he's making 6 tanks
a bit better
ah okay
a bit is an understatement
i always overestimate with tanks
that's enough to go to war
okay this is good
you can easily beat the allies with that
not yet
go around as they did irl
I can but I can't speak
france border with germany is lvl 10 fort
so thats why its so hard
lol
thanks very much
can still break it with sp art
I can hear you too btw
i wished spart combat width was reduced
build supply hubs if you plan on going through amazon
and rail
and also start making battle lines for planning bonus
to those supply hubs
that'd be fudging busted ๐ญ
hate this filter bro
logistics is really really important @buoyant star
those lines are fine
me too
that's not that useful
say they gave spart the same 0.8 reduction as line arty gets
it takes political power
yikes
0.5 then?
ofc they will be
they don't need any reduction they're alr meta
not pre-war ๐
i was not aware
they are
peak
nestor makhno is that you
yep
since the benelux is in the faction
don't push on the maginot
even with tanks you'll lose guys
maginot is the french border
it's full of insane forts
the one next to you
it's called alsace-loraine
push through belgium and netherlands and stuff
take paris plus a bit more
then you beat them
tanks son the belgian netherlands border
so you can rush them both and pour into france
put it on netherlands then stretch it to belgium when the war starts
make sure you train air too
cuz you'll need air to break the benelux
the naval bombers can be fine untrained tbh
@random mica you don't this game sucks ass
yes
yes
get some fuel
trade for oil
like 40 is prolly fine
yes
wow
you can shift click to queue it
the MIO
where you're in
shift click one of the things
put some air advisor guys
no you don't need light battery like that
you're missing military officers
you don't
check your government
yeah those guys
chieffs
chiefs of navy and air
yes
36
uhh air reformer
usually
if you're unsure 36 is prolly the way to go
declare on poland
what's your economy?
oh do those
left one
yes
you can start making the plan early
before even taking france
the naval invasion plan
no
wait actually yes
that guys good for inf
bock
put them on a french port
naval invasion order
in the battle plans
Attempt #35 as Soviet Union XD. I'm so bad at this game lol
@quasi shoalWhy is this plane design so OP? The range is a dog's dinner, but as long as it's not horribly horribly outnumbered, this air superiority fighter just SHREDS absolutely EVERYTHING the AI throws at it.
you have to declare first ohhh
you can get better
yes you should declare
better defense and range for that
yes call allies
start the plans
and take planes off training yeah lol
take boats off of training too
cuz they'll get sunk otherwise
Oh yes, sure. Amazon is a green hell fr
no I don't think so
change some of the air bases
so they can actually reach
half your planes aren't reaching
move the ones out of range into range
make sure it doesn't over capacitate
so maybe put it on the 100/600
below it
take navy off of training
yes
that worked
is something like this meta?
nothing yet cuz you need to beat france
This is my end-game jet fighter build. What do you think?
no lol
why
idk
I don't play end game
start your infantry plans
@knotty vortex
yes
tanks too
Is it serviceable?
this?
oh yeah stretch the belgian line @knotty vortex
make sure they push too
they don't have a plan
@quasi shoal just got modern planes
whats best for those. too many dang options.
navy is sorta coming along too. but im having a hard time manging it
if you could help me after helping that guy
No, the Organization value is far too low, that division will take one look at combat and tire immediately and have to reorganize.
it's only on the netherlands
you have no troops on belgium's border
stretch the front line
what if i add more inf batalions
and put the offensive line on like paris or sumn
36 width of infantry is pretty good
idk
Yeah.
I don't play late game
the stage this guy's playing is my best stage
@knotty vortex you're out of tungsten
and basically rubber
you need to take some off of tanks
like this?
and put more on guns or sumn
that's over 36 and the org is still crap
@knotty vortex still trade tungsten with sweden
oh nvr mind
no worries
id reckon its basically the same setup. what stats do i want high.
range, agility, air sup or air attack up something like that?
this?
@knotty vortex it's cuz of the soviets
no like offensive inf
you added them so the democratic nations all joined
yes trade
tungsten=tanks
unpauses
this?
36 width pure inf is good
as defence
no support companies?
a 36 width of pure infantry is good enough for offense
idk looks nicer
I used 12/4 infantry as France and defeated Germany
I had green air maxed out artillery doctrine and everything necessary
this?
it got cut off
fair enough lol
poland and the netherlands are getting ass handed to them tho
and belgium might cap soon
italy doesn't join til later
cuz they're bums
wait
yes
stretch the tank line on belgium
to make it cover france
and then pour in
no
the one that goess to france
yes
don't do that
you can stretch the previous line dude
pause
hold alt
right click the circles
on the ends of the lines
yes
and stretch the other ones and push in
yes
36 width
yes that's good
take motorized recon off maybe tho
and assault engi on
no
don't take the expeditionary forces as germany
cuz they all kinda suck and you are powerful enough to not need them
ok go to your production line
idk
no
hover over the one 2 to the right
do that one
you have no refineries
edit improved small
yes
you need fighters
so click fighter weapons
omg bruh
all the light machine guns
fill it fully
yes
upgrade engines to one engine 3
no
omg bruh
use that ig
max out air defense ig
not those tho
don't use those
omg
ok turns out do use those
you have nothing else
sorry bro ๐ญ
good enough ig lol
yes make those and put a decent amount on them
ill use this for poland and then switch to smth better
like 25 i'd say
oh default division is good enough for poland
trade for rubber @knotty vortex
you have none
iddk it feels bad
it's good enough
go into your decisions and lower your mefo bills god damn ๐ญ ๐ญ ๐ญ
@quasi shoalWhy is this Marine Template so good?
amtracs
they're strong
I literally only have one in the Template.
do like all of those besides the gombos trade treaty @knotty vortex
i never capitulated the allies and i have so many hours jeez
whatever the other 3 are
I capped them before 100 ๐
Amphibious Tanks.
unpause I think
What's BBA ๐ญ
by blood alone
dlc that adds italy, switzerland, ethiopia, and air designer
By Blood Alone, Italian DLC and Plane Designer DLC.
prolly a fucton more
Oh planes
Also, FUN DLC. I like Air Designer.
It needs more stuff to research, but I quite like it.
@knotty vortex decline
they suck I guarantee you
click on the english channel
in the bottom left click the yellow triangle
so that convoys will try not to pass through there
wait
take your navy
How does the navy work ??๐ญ
put them on patrol in the sea south of norway
ughhh
@quasi shoalAlso, I only just realized, the Organization of that best ever Marine Template? 69.0, LOL.
@knotty vortex click only one fleet at the bottom
whichever you want
click the shipss with the binoculars
and right click SOUTH OF NORWAY
I mean air has those buttons, navy doesn't ๐ฅ
yes
and take the guys on the far left
the boats
put them on the strike force (next to it)
and put it on the same place as the patrol
yes
that should be good
unpause
they all have the buttons
uhhh
idk
click on the sea
move your poland guys over to france
no accept that
that's italy joining your war
one on italy's border
one on yours
don't push yeah
but I feel like italy is gonna die there
Yeah I tried to push with 100 armies there once with Italy,I got smoked somehow ๐ฅ
yea that seems good enough
yes use that
+6 rubber lol
yes
wait
click on your field marshall
click the 2 arrows
on the 2nd one
change it to 3
yes
unpause now
Does anyone know why my units are loosing even tho I have a good template and have 50 more divisions than them?
what's the template
also might be air
@knotty vortex yeah move air to north france
wait
CAS ?
๐ฅ
take like 2 wings somewhere in belgium
yes
unpauses
yes
take lend leases
decline exp forces (as hist germ)
yes
do it
peak gameplay
How do I take a picture snip doesnt work
windows+shift+S
gent yes
that's fine
send them to dover and like 3 other provinces
Encircle !
rate this division
dover
just brings me to desktop screen
wait no
the one above dover
no
below it
with the port
no
inbetween
yes
take the ports
change from full screen to borderless and vice versa
the marines aren't strong but you take portss to reinforce
once you have ports you can move other divisions over
yes
it's fine
ignore those
mostly
chat its been a month since i played i forgot everything help
don't read those indepth unless you see a fucton of boats sunk
only one convoy was sunk you're fine
watch yt
you're running late but you started late
if you started earlier this would've been good
jesus bro
its over isnt it
yes
seombody pls explain why i cant move my navy even if i have naval bases
im cooking ( i havent done anything)
2x the divs and still getting wipped
when do i do anchuss again
they're prolly trapped in north germany
guys, how do MEFO bills actually work?
paris doesn't instacap them
olive tell me why my units suck ๐
you dont get it, the naval bases dont base
consumer goods go up
that's bad it means less civss
invading means lower consumer goods
establish vichy france @knotty vortex
not really
no supply? yes
is it really expensive? yes
does it matter? no
quien un hoi4
it's weird but it's useful here
lemme see
who match hoi 4
are their home base near (it's not)
ok now
Field hospital is good, I've heard
Haven't lasted long enough
hmm?
yk the thing you did with norway
do that with english channel
and get your naval bombers on there
soo... 4 year plan or economic
yes remove the yellow thing
shift right click to undo what they're doing
green yes
mefo bills
so 4 year plan I think
idk I forgot
yes
give them commanders too
yes
just put them on bro ๐ญ
no
naval bombers
move all of them on the english channel
and move all your fighters there too
go to the paris air base
or calais
Group them please ๐๐๐
booo
that's for nerds
and make them naval strike english channel
and get your planes to do air superiority on the english channel too
fighters
you want fighters
for air superiority missions
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less than 3 lol
you might be cooked
nah
just try ig
Damn bro was not prepared
he made tons of mid naval bombers lol
this was kinda fun
japan is overpowered but the geographical position is just so annoying
that's the whole point lol
good stats tho
@knotty vortex you do NOT have the rubber for production
4 million men army is insane
I'm not gonna lie I put machine guns on CAS, cuz I might be a lil special
whoy match hoi4????
technically meta but for the reason you don't know
yes press play
yes
you do
??
kill the france pockets
kill the non maginot ones first
then the ones in the maginot cuz they're harder to kil
watch out in north france
there's a uk guy going wild
watch out
norway mb
but still
make sure you don't let that get out of hand
Wait are those the English ??
no that was norway
english are north of that tho and they look similar from far away with my blind ass
@knotty vortex focus
that one
yes
Yes
They're both blue ๐ต
they're both red
norway is red
uk is partially red
and they both have some white
and some of a dark blueish color
britain never did
@knotty vortex you can't do anything here
but old on
close that menu
๐ฅ
go to navy
click the far right fleet
the reserves
further right
and slap them on the far left one
your yellow one
that might help
guys until when i build civs when do i start doing mils
if this fails you just lose lol
as who
build civs til '37
Never build civs first as germany afaik
build mils for basically most of the game
alright
a few civs is good
It said SMTH SMTH 1938.not worth it
anything else i should know this is my second ever playthru
@knotty vortex you're DONE bro ๐ญ
you might have to restart
that was most of your navy
the subs kill them
tanks and cas win wars
@knotty vortex lore accurate germany lol
yeah you just lost lol
this time don't ally the sovietss
rush sp art, fighters, and tons of fucing light cruisers
@knotty vortex I mean that was the plan but you don't have enough fighters
check the air war
its 37 how come almost none have been built
idk lol
cancel them switch to mils
@knotty vortex check the air war
alr alr
and that battle bubble
Is bro getting beat by norway ? ๐ฅ
@knotty vortex you sunk one ship
and you lost 40 bombers and 2 big ships
and 6 of their ships
๐ " Score"
the norway thing from earlier was one division in northern france
@knotty vortex check the air button in the bottom right
oh tf
you have air superiority?
ok ig your bombers just suck ass lol
wait
click on the english channel
ok nvr mind ๐ญ
holy nationalist spain lost?
you have 0 (zero) naval superiority
@knotty vortex that's not that many ships since most are crappy
and most leave once you kill a few
but you have 15 ships now
and no superiority
you lost
you might have to restart son ๐ญ
Convoys are for trade
when do i do anchuss
quickly
Did he garrison his naval base ?
he's not getting invaded anyways
good?
@knotty vortex might actually work tbh
2 more sp art
@knotty vortex top one
@knotty vortex DUDE
INVITE THEM
INVITE THEM
damn
Why don't you just invade the balkans atp ?
I don't know ๐
@knotty vortex
new design
stack up as much light attack as possible
like all of it
Use your mic ๐ฅ
@knotty vortex medium battery 2's is best
broken ๐
yes
max it out
all of it
yes
@knotty vortex no AA
wait
in the top left change it from a mine to a shield
then save
wave of fuking point ups lol
What do you use cruiser or destroyers for ?
killing things
save it that's good enough
and start making them
cancel convoys and put it all on those cruisers
and then just wait lol
make more
I mean specifically cuz if i wanna kill other shops, what should I make
put more lines
light cruisers
maybe carriers
no
put more on
that repairs your old navy
If i wanna kill infantry/ tanks ?
and your navy when it gets made
well those aren't ships ๐
@knotty vortex max i'd say but yeah
unpause
@knotty vortex put some inf on denmark when you're ready
and push through scandinavia
@knotty vortex get heavy machine guns
@molten swallow he didn't build up enough and his entire navy got nuked lol
tanks are good
CAS !!
except he's allied soviets ๐ ๐ ๐
is it possible for nationalist spain to loose
yes
nationalist spain got COOKED
@knotty vortex why are you using motorized tho ๐ญ
@molten swallow he's not doing barb cuz he's allied to sov
๐
guys will the USA always join into allies if its attacked by japan?
@knotty vortex if there's skulls that means you are not winning
99999% of the time
Uh idk probably if they get bombed
yeah thats what im asking ๐ญ
hmm...
Good run
should i invite italy into axis or no?
which is not good
yes
usually
unless you're running smth else
i mean we know how it went irl...
They're a meat shield
Big coastline they won't defend
Africa...i mean..
you can win africa
with like 24 guys
maybe 48 if you're feeling bored
also ima ask if to do or not to do the ribbentrop-molotov pack
I dunno how France clapped my 24 cavalry divs ๐ฅ
depends
do you want research bonuses (lowk amazing)
It's not cuz of the combat width i hope
or do you want supply (also useful)
research bonuses are meta
but also meta can be too much for some ppl
@quasi shoalI still can't believe that one of THESE sunk the Bismarck in my USA playthrough. A very humble sub hunter DD, not at all meant for surface combat.
EINS ZWEI POLIZEI
lucky torp
Can't they just add Castro in vanilla?
guys how am i supposed to take care of mefo bills?
Wym
do the focus institure price controls and do all the decisions
and u can reduce consumers through decisions if u cap a countr
the amount of consumers that get reduced depends on the size of the country
How did you find it?
I declared on japan ๐
They hunt submarines, and protect Convoy routes.
Militia have been nerfed ๐ญ
So idk, but you can try either that 32-width militia from before or use a 19/0 infantry template
Of course however you have to start small so that's what you eventually get to
Iโm a 19 width millta and Iโm holding but I have to reinforce a lot because the japs have tanks
Iโm managing to hold here
My ai allies keep trying to push but Iโm not
I just got back that tile now Iโm just holding
use your dockyards
wow fascist sweden is suprisingly fun
They still are a banger
every time i see this icon i get scared
i only used militia and pissed on the Japanese in a high scale
They used to have 20% initiative per battalion
Now it's only 2%
all 100 are being used rn
Oh good
yippeeee
Honestly not that difficult
Become communist, get some good marines, and then capitulate Poland
You can probably do it before September 1939
@quasi shoal
im gonna try again
im on fresh
do i wait to make light cruisers until my docks are free
slay swedish queen
or do i cancel some of the navy being made already
when hearts of iron 5 come out๐ฌ
Why are my prelobbies always bugged?
generally i like to complete ships that are some percentage to completion
hun spanker ๐
But those that are not near completion get deleted
okay got you
im playing germany
and honestly i got spat on by the royal navy earlier
so im tryna prepare early
move the anti air to support at least
however ive been told to just get lots of light cruisers, fighters and naval bombers
i also need a fighter template lol
i think i should get the airplane dlc
yes
anyone has a fun underrated path to recommend
Oh thy Gabe Newell! Thank you for blessing us with discounts which save and empty our bloody wallets! Thank you for making us have hours of fun with cheap but great Games! Long live Steam!
im stuck now
are u in the allies or comintern
neither
all my allies are dead except greece
wait until italy declares on france or the uk and does italy things
or build up air
Yeah was just gonna say imma make a airforce
is this historical
Yeah
I swear to god there used to be a button to just upgrade bottlenecks here
or am I just stupid
idk i wasnt around until late last year
Just hold and get more manpower
Then you can push into Italy easily
I have enough manpower
just supply is the issue I think
supply issues in the big 25 ๐
what
Probably attack from Klagenfurt then
yes
its justified trust
What is the best template using cheats?
anyone wanna play
Epic
Im up for it
tf you mean your stressing its only 1937
gotta beat the uk early
anchluss happens in 1938
bruh
just put all mils on rifles
then just spam out divisions
then wait a bit
some dudes can do the anchluss in april of 1936
somehow
i got no clue
lmao crazy work
alright
how many people?
im not looking for a game with too many tbh
i lowk prefer games with like 6 or less
idk
okay dude
hey
I broke through
victory
uh dont think theres much to do now
im gonna play canada
what is that?
poor bulgaria
someone pick a path for me to play
Then I got destroyed by thee republic of china
There is, maybe you have a mod that breaks it?
Mitteleuropa
war of 1812 them again using the habbakuk
meat europa
why paradoz also didnt change these doctrines?
like just why
80% work
cuz no matter what we're just going to pick the option with rangers
no mods on
Is there a certain way to click it?
ah yes my beloved swastika club
No, I just clicked it
Bug maybe
am i in good time to try fight royal navy?
yayy this achievement was lowkey fun
which polish king path would yall suggest i take?
depends how good ur navy is
dont tell me its base german fleet
i meannnn for me
its the first guy you get
yeah
all i can do is the cossack or the other guy
worst options but
the romanian guy
but pick the romanian if you wanna be the strongest
well germany remilitarized so i know im gonna be invaded
since u can unite with romania with all cores
iirc theres a fascist king and u can join the axis
the cossack is the facist king
Do the cossack if u think ur gonna get destroyed by germany
i probably am
last time i played as poland i got mauled
guys someone send a good strat bomber template plz and ty
Well, it IS a descriptive name, it does what it says on the tin. The Hun Spanker, well, spanks Huns.
where is ts from
the focuses bro
ฤฐ think its editied
nah i remember it was from a real mod the one below
So i dont think it real
but i forgot which one it was
did the rt56 devs ever give us back the recruitable from mobile warfare?
Maybe a germany mod?
prob a romanian or czechoslovakian mod
Hmmm
๐ 100% romanian bruv
Makes sense germans and hungos are pretty much friends, no?
No i dont mean rl
Thousand week reich
opps wrong one
meant to reply to the one below that
Ah yes, my favorite country in Kaiseredux, BASEFACTORYOUTPUT:
Secret argentinia focus
No,no i think ur right
I meant I responded to the wrong message
Ahh
You should become a tester for the game twinnem
Okay
xd
Explain the bug!
"Shi man I pressed a button ๐คท "
big abkhazia
Georgia is nowhere to be found
Mabye the georgia was the abkhazia we made along the way..
We should undergo a grand reform for such an achievement
Call themselves Greater Abkhazia
Sounds like a suggestion for a formable for abkzahia ๐
It's just gaining a core on Samurzakano not even Georgia lmaoo ๐ญ
I GOT SO CLOSE TO TAKING DOWN THE UK
and just give some research buffs for random stuff
it would be funny then kick them before barb
I love this goofy portrait
647 201 6098 she is racist and said bad word call
Do you realize this is the HOI4 community
Neither of those two would offend anyone here ๐ญ
What should a paratrooper design look like?
can someone check #ask-for-help-here please
how scuffed is this division. im lowkey meming
Why do I feel like Germany is the nation that decides the most in this game
yippppppppppeeeeeeee
for some damn reason italy got anschlussed by germany
is this a w
where's germany's army
whats a good starting template for ROC
On my front line
juntuan reformed
(if ur playing historical on)
the german army
everyone in japan is currently dead
bro legit killed a generation