hoi4-general

[worn coral]

u think ur good?

[neat kayak]

Wdym good?

[worn coral]

i have a challenge

[neat kayak]

go ahead

[worn coral]

tank only china

[neat kayak]

Voice rn?

to share the game

[worn coral]

sure

but no mic

[neat kayak]

ironman

[neat kayak]

i am tired so no speaking either

let's goo

[worn coral]

go axis chat

@neat kayak

can u share audio

[neat kayak]

is it good now?

[worn coral]

i hear it

[neat kayak]

good

wanna lower the volume?

@worn coral i can use puppet divisions as coast guards?

[sudden thistle]

😭

[worn coral]

ok

but u have to garrison with tank

and division has to be at least 40% hardness

[neat kayak]

Accepted

Florius viewer spotted

[worn coral]

who isnt

[neat kayak]

Fr

Florius is the goat

[timber shadow]

yall

im bored

of this game

what do i do

[eternal palm]

Play sheep mod

[timber shadow]

wtf is a sheep mod bro

[eternal palm]

AI modification mod

makes AI actually good

Try it

[timber shadow]

does that apply to my allies

[eternal palm]

Yep

[timber shadow]

ok

nah

ts mod is like just making ai cheat

[eternal palm]

It isnt?

Thats just whats possible in this game

[timber shadow]

idk bro

[eternal palm]

if you optimise for it

[timber shadow]

the reddit comments say otherwise

[eternal palm]

Reddit comments are like THE worst source on this game bro

Redditors suck at this game anyway

If you're good at this game you know that sheep mod isnt that hard

it makes the game actually not a sleeping sim

cuz sp is whatever

[cunning crescent]

Can someone help

I have no mods on yet it doesnt let me play ironman mode

I dont have debug on

Still doesnt let me idk what to do

[eternal palm]

What difficulty are you on

[cunning crescent]

Regular

[timber shadow]

but im not a sweaty 750 pound fatass with an unshaved neck beard and a miku body pillow, can i beat it?

[eternal palm]

mhm, do you have the game on steam?

[cunning crescent]

Yes

[eternal palm]

💀

I thought u was bored

sounds to me like you are having a skill issue

[timber shadow]

bored not masochistic

[cunning crescent]

Mev

[timber shadow]

two gigantic diffs

[eternal palm]

It aint that deep

[cunning crescent]

?*

[timber shadow]

k imma try it out as germany

[eternal palm]

No?

[sudden thistle]

The mod is fun

Wdym

[cunning crescent]

Oh mb

[cunning crescent]

Do yk what to do?

[eternal palm]

No clue

[cunning crescent]

It says I have cheats on but I dont think I do

[eternal palm]

Hmmmmmmm

[heavy shell]

anyone trynna get into a game? I haven't been playing for a long time, wanna start again

[eternal palm]

Ok you did buy the game on steam, yes. Not some other means

Its not cracked

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/jollyposting-bugburger2-silly-cat-happy-crimbo-gif-16149039868525183504

[cunning crescent]

Ye its not

It was working like a week ago or 3

2*

[timber shadow]

yo i got an idea

[proud tapir]

my entire Austria Hungary game failed because Poland joined my faction which got rid of allied guarantees.....i didnt even do the focus for habsburg Poland they just

joined

and ruined everything

[timber shadow]

what if i leave the game on till 45

[proud tapir]

[timber shadow]

and then tag into ai

and look at their templates and copy them

[cunning crescent]

Is there a support thing here or nah

[timber shadow]

there is

[cunning crescent]

Where

Tech support?

[timber shadow]

#ask-for-help-here

[cunning crescent]

No one answered

[timber shadow]

whats ur problem anyway

[cunning crescent]

Achievements arent working it says I have a cheat on but I dont

[timber shadow]

check ironman on and play regular or above

[cunning crescent]

Ye I do play regular

Doesnt work still

[timber shadow]

u cant get achievements without ironman mode off

and if you have custom game rules on

[cunning crescent]

I clicked reset

Still didnt do anything

[timber shadow]

so check ironman on

[cunning crescent]

Ye it is

[timber shadow]

huh

[cunning crescent]

Still says there is cheats

[timber shadow]

shi

idk then bro

[cunning crescent]

I dont have any mods or Cheats on

[cunning crescent]

Who do i talk to about it

Cus I uninstalled the game

And re downloded it

[timber shadow]

ive got no idea

[silver eagle]

I was playing as the US and then this happened...

by the way thats 1944

[neat kayak]

@worn coral it's gg :))))

[worn coral]

guess u didnt lend lease the soviets?

[opal nymph]

Armored Cars are OP. I capped Iran in 6 days

[neat kayak]

At least clean borders

@worn coral share of my peacefull germany run?

[worn coral]

ur so cooked against japan

[worn coral]

sure

[opal nymph]

These templates are fast

[random delta]

yo chat should i continue my hispanola run?

[silver eagle]

I tried but I focused on my navy too much

I was so scared of a mainland invasion. So I focused all my resources on a super navy then I eventually realized in 1942 that I had 40 divisions

[sudden thistle]

Ur already dead?

Rip

[neat kayak]

yeah

[fathom oyster]

I have a question what happened if I go German empire but the historical is on but instead of France becoming communists Italy, Spain and France are communist

[worn coral]

what does planing even do

[fathom oyster]

And I'm new to the game still

[neat kayak]

better damage or smtng like that

it's good for combat

[worn coral]

In Hearts of Iron IV, planning provides a temporary combat bonus to divisions when they are assigned to an offensive frontline, even if a battle plan is not actively being used.
This bonus increases a unit's attack and breakthrough stats, with the effect being a percentage multiplier based on the planning level achieved.
For example, a 50% planning bonus means the unit's attack and breakthrough stats are 1.5 times their base values during an assault.

pretty good ig

[worn coral]

dude

how do you make them move using trains

i always do fallback lines us i have no idea how

[neat kayak]

pressing B

[worn coral]

ohh

thanks

wait

[worn coral]

see the song name pls

[neat kayak]

Alte Kameraden

[worn coral]

ok thx

u need bibao or they wont die

[worn coral]

try doing global defense council

its pure pain

[neat kayak]

i never tried that

i need to micro a lot to win the cw

[worn coral]

just push into bilbao

or its just gonna keep getting worse

[neat kayak]

that's whaat i am trying

they keep pinning

i hate when this happens

[worn coral]

try encircling

finally

[worn coral]

take regional first

if u take spain

it will be harder

[neat kayak]

yeah

they are pretty strong

[worn coral]

dude

set cas for logistics strike too

trust

[neat kayak]

forgot about that

ngl

thx for reminding

[worn coral]

check for unplanned offensive

bro what

why did china die

[neat kayak]

too fast ngl

[worn coral]

u shouldve done molotov

gives a bunch of resources

later on

and mutual research for 1943 tanks

no ww2 is weird

[worn coral]

do spy on czech and boost ideology

[neat kayak]

yeah

that's why i got two advisors for spy slots

[sudden thistle]

1943 tanks?

[worn coral]

idk the year

the one after 1938 medium

[sudden thistle]

1940

[worn coral]

yo

how did u open that war probability thing

why is france at war with lithuania vro

[worn coral]

improve rel with japan

do master of propaganda on fuhrerzip

[worn coral]

@neat kayak ]

gives pp

and daily ideology support

goebbels

[worn coral]

goebbels vro

oh well

just do him later

[neat kayak]

should i accept?

i kinda want to kill them like in every run

[worn coral]

accept

[neat kayak]

but this is a pacificist germany

[worn coral]

if u wanna turn into war machine later

[worn coral]

declare on ireland and use it as staging ground against uk

[neat kayak]

i can do that

but no wars

except the soviets

[worn coral]

check finland

[worn coral]

dont

worker rights

its not worth doing more computers

DUDE

DONT

[neat kayak]

:)))

[worn coral]

thats way too much

[neat kayak]

i won't

[worn coral]

on gosh

ur gonna starve everyone

maneuver

and go for tanks

prussian legacy is horrible

wait what

i tought u had joined allies

not gb joined axis

ts so messed up

[neat kayak]

Bro what?

[worn coral]

why arent u using ur factories

[neat kayak]

i do space marines

[worn coral]

go for tank doctrine

[neat kayak]

no point in going for tank doctrine

[worn coral]

ur saying u dont do blitz on germany?

oh gosh

[neat kayak]

no

i always go GBP

[worn coral]

thats like using the early soviets for tanks

[neat kayak]

i never do tanks

unless very late game

[queen bronze]

yea. i finally took france too and its best ive done too. good luck wit the rest!

[neat kayak]

this threw a wrench in my plans

[worn coral]

brodie

[tribal moss]

👍

[worn coral]

gb is at war with daddy fdr

ur faction is pretty much dead

[neat kayak]

they are on their own

i won't join any wars

except the soviet one

[worn coral]

so are u soon

[worn coral]

dude

please use all ur factories

[neat kayak]

I am gonna use them on planes

the production is good as it is

uhm?

[worn coral]

yes

u can use to kill us later if u want

[neat kayak]

should i kill the US now?

[worn coral]

oh wait

yea

its ur best shot

mexico joined axis

which means its gonna join the war soon

and its not prepared

neither is the usa tho

join the wars

[worn coral]

@neat kayak

and then invite mexico

dont build navy

[neat kayak]

i need convoys

[worn coral]

just steal the usa's

[neat kayak]

to transport my troops

[worn coral]

answer call to arms

[worn coral]

answer call to arms

call mexico

dude

please stop attacking

let ur troops reorg

eww

what the hell is that

[worn coral]

let me see ur infantry template

wheres the space marines

[neat kayak]

wait

[worn coral]

ur game crashed?

[neat kayak]

it got bogged down

[worn coral]

its frozen

nvm

[opal nymph]

0 world tension btw

[neat kayak]

@worn coral later this day?

[worn coral]

its 10:30 pm

[neat kayak]

It's 3:37 for me

Am not pm

[wraith mauve]

I would like to make my main army Calvary for role play but is it possible?

[terse skiff]

yes

just make cav-tank divisions

[wraith mauve]

How?

[terse skiff]

just use cav for your divisions

[opal nymph]

Huh

Ah

[signal hemlock]

huh

[opal nymph]

Romania switched sides

[fossil pivot]

So who playing vicky rn

[rich sand]

how does that happen

[opal nymph]

IDK, wacky peace treaty shenanigans or something

WW2 ended awhile ago

[cunning crescent]

Are they ever gonna add Joachim peiper

As a general

[opal nymph]

Holy smokes

[halcyon pasture]

favorite music genre? hoi4 soundtrack

[cold plover]

King Michael coup lol

the focus let's you jump ship from the axis and join allies or Comintern usually

[opal nymph]

I know that

We are talking why WW3 has 0% world tension

It has jumped to 9% so far

[queen bronze]

technically its not over yet
but like. bro. it always comes down to the AI not being able to get their sheesh together and not get eaten alive and leave me to defend all of europe by myself

tbh this area was my biggest pain. imo i should be rolling but im not. i assume i need something quite diffferent.

that has been a stalemate since like 41

it looks virtually the same in 45 too

gibralter is another issue. i cant get troops in spain. and spain wont take them out. so i cant go between the north sea and atlantic

[opal nymph]

Speed is key

Literally a 1 year war

FDR LIVES FOREVER!

[drowsy ravine]

guys...

am i cooked?

(im playing TWR mod as serbia and war with the toronto accord (basically NATO) was the only way to keep progressing)

[queen bronze]

any advices?

[cold plover]

ahh😭

[umbral agate]

how cooked am i?

[jade ore]

bros getting encircled by the worst axis nations 💀 💀

[solar tundra]

Who should i play as next

[umbral agate]

my units are stuck at 1 kmh

i cannot move

[umbral agate]

btw there were 84 divs there

[jade ore]

840k lost to like 10 trash italian romanian ai divisions

[jade ore]

how

ok supply

how do you even get into that situation

hold dniper and win

[solar tundra]

My first playthrough i tried to take over usa as Canada and got the allies to join me against usa but the uk kicked me out and took over

[queen bronze]

any adviccec

[jade ore]

get ur tanks out of norway, and also get most of the infantry out

3 or 4 each tile

maybe

[umbral agate]

i have no idea

i think it might be cuz i have no tanks

cuz i forgot to research anti tank

they are being converted rn tho

[jade ore]

hold oder river

you have a fallback line but they are surrounding it

[queen bronze]

id be obliterated and have a 5th front down denmark

[jade ore]

how?

[queen bronze]

yea that was a throwaway to see what happened. i went back a save

[jade ore]

then fully pull out and hold denmark its easier

[simple vine]

going for yemen any advice i am new

[jade ore]

no they will probably fall easily

gl

[simple vine]

got my ass kicked on the previous run

[jade ore]

how

[simple vine]

i started panicking and added like 4 front lines and some other stuff

[umbral agate]

yo so i cant hold the stalin line, or just cant hold in general, i have no idea what to do rn

[jade ore]

stalin line? thats in the soviet union no?

oh wait wrong person

[queen bronze]

how would i win norway if i start that attack from beginning

[simple vine]

it says that my supply is at 0% that a problem?

[jade ore]

hold dniper or fall back to the vistula

[umbral agate]

so this is my map

im playing historically yk

[jade ore]

you do not need to win norway anymore

[opal nymph]

No supply is bad, but Yemen should be very weak

[jade ore]

its about consolidating

your position

[opal nymph]

But you also have a not great field marshal leading as a general

[jade ore]

ok wel stop attacking firstly

oh ur soviets i forgot

[umbral agate]

im not

[jade ore]

ummm

[umbral agate]

yeah im the one getting railed

[queen bronze]

wdym

[jade ore]

why do you want norway

[simple vine]

so what should i click heard that ai is very wweak on mountains

[umbral agate]

i have 12k heavy td in stockpile

[queen bronze]

gotta take over the world?

[umbral agate]

that should help

[simple vine]

just draw a offensive line?

[jade ore]

well if you dont wanna lose and wanna make a comeback i'd pull out of norway

theres like 2 armies worth of troops u can put on other fronts

[queen bronze]

ive lost allready as is. i went back a save

[jade ore]

oh well do u still need help?

[umbral agate]

bro i left my tanks in finland and they lost all their xp, i had 7 vets

[jade ore]

💀

[simple vine]

alright i am invading see how that goes

[deep kiln]

guys, i'm trying to do navy invasions but if keeps saying that i have no divisions assigned for it

how to fix that

[queen bronze]

yea. what would i do to win norway. dif troops? earlier prolly?

[umbral agate]

oh yes

]

40 in total

[clear dagger]

where is your supply company??

[deep kiln]

can sum1 help?

[umbral agate]

i have 0 xp

[jade ore]

how man naval invasions are you tryna do

[umbral agate]

im putting that in

[clear dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1190430460120154274/1446258883352985802/dexter-dexter-morgan-stare-2367495577-13_dragged.gif

[deep kiln]

only 1,

[jade ore]

idrk i guess just try keep them at the port then encircle

[deep kiln]

but it keeps saying "no divisions"

[jade ore]

do you have them assigned to smth else

[deep kiln]

no

[jade ore]

what country

r u palying

[deep kiln]

i'm playing w germany

[umbral agate]

im doing reorg

[jade ore]

idk what to tell you other than try assign divisions to it with ctrl left click or check ur research to see if u have it which u prolly do

[deep kiln]

imma try the first one, but it's weird cuz I already did one naval invasion before

[umbral agate]

im getting cooked in the south cuz my divisions r too slow, how do i make them move faster

is it just supply?

[deep kiln]

like it wnet normaly

yeah, it didn't work

[jade ore]

railway them

you have supply

the germans dont

[umbral agate]

i have 5

tier 5 railway

i have -45% defense

[jade ore]

the level doesnt matter i think

[simple vine]

should a change iit or keep it as it is

[jade ore]

no manpower = go up

[simple vine]

alr so 5% or 10%

[deep kiln]

you have any other tips for the naval invasion thing?

[jade ore]

extensive

[jade ore]

no sorry 😔

[deep kiln]

this game is so bugged for no reason

[jade ore]

there is probably a reason why u cant do it

idk tho

i gtg sleep

[deep kiln]

idk also

[simple vine]

yo i am losing hard

[wraith mauve]

W or l

Just finished the 2nd Russian civil war like 2 years ago and building my economy

And I made everyone in Europe communist

And I made lots of “independent” nations

[opal nymph]

Based

We all like democratic Russia

[plucky agate]

anyone 2v2?

[wraith mauve]

Well technically it’s non aligned but I roleplay it s Russian

democratic

[opal nymph]

You need more troops

[opal nymph]

Ah, I see

I just see "Russian Republic" and it is close enough I guess

[wraith mauve]

Ya

[wraith mauve]

It’s faction map mode

[umbral agate]

Really i thought i should delete my whole army, thanks for the tip

[twilit field]

Huh everyone in the axis left after the allies were defeated in the Brussels Treaty, fascists dont guarantee each other right?

[opal nymph]

Im just stating you only have 1 to 2 troops per tile

It is really a dire situation

[umbral agate]

Cuz my troops cant move fast enough, thats the problem

[opal nymph]

Especially when the Germans have 3-4

[opal nymph]

You dont have stacks of troops anywhere in the image

Or you need to strat redeploy

Ctrl-B

You lose 90% of your org, but you move fast

[umbral agate]

Then ill have no org

[wraith mauve]

Time to make Mongolia a autonomous republic

[opal nymph]

Do you want troops in an area or do you want to die with 1 guy holding a tile

You just need to deploy more troops

Ans bolster the line

[plucky agate]

anyone 2v2?

[umbral agate]

Then i have no supply

And will be rienforce memes

[opal nymph]

Because if that is one field marshal holding the entire line, you are screwed

[umbral agate]

Cuz all my generlas have cowered by stalin

[opal nymph]

You get reinforce memed from lack of air superiority

[umbral agate]

I have no recovery rate, or rienforce rate

[opal nymph]

Oh, that doesn't help either

Did you hold Stalin line?

[umbral agate]

Yea

[opal nymph]

The key to Stalin Line is to hold Kiev

And not abandon it

[umbral agate]

I did

[opal nymph]

Or you lose your supply hub

[umbral agate]

84 divs got encircled

I lost a third of my army

[opal nymph]

There is also that one supply hub at the Donbas region

[umbral agate]

When i retreated to the stalin line

[opal nymph]

In front of the river you need to hold

Oh...

[sudden thistle]

bro

[opal nymph]

You usually hold Stalin Line day 1, or you slowly retreat to it if you get pushed back

Like lots of manual retreats

[umbral agate]

I did

[sudden thistle]

molotov line is goated

[umbral agate]

But i didnt want the nag to be canceled

By i didnt know that germany can just randomly cancel it

[sudden thistle]

dnitreposk or smth

Dnepropetrovsk*

[fickle thicket]

i usually build up lvl 2 or 3 forts on plains

[wraith mauve]

Better? @opal nymph

[umbral agate]

What wrong with my tank

[opal nymph]

Epic

[opal nymph]

Yeah, I usually just molotov line it and call it a day. A few forts here and there

[opal nymph]

TDs in singleplayer are pointless

[fickle thicket]

really doesnt waste ic

[umbral agate]

I was practising for mp, but i had the worst rng of all time

[opal nymph]

I know. I used to do full maginot lines basically

[cold plover]

operation Felix or ally Spain. generally as Germany you want to win as fast as possible, later into the war Russia and America out eco you

[umbral agate]

I got insane parranoia so i got war eco like 8 months late

[fickle thicket]

ever since ncns dropped i havent played that much hoi cuz it ruined navy games imo

[opal nymph]

Ive had a blast with navy

I love new navy

Patrol to win

If you patrol with your strike force, you just wipe every screen on the planet

[fickle thicket]

carrier tho got range nerfed

[opal nymph]

Did they?

Are you sure it isnt because of every other ship lowering range?

[fickle thicket]

idk havent checked stats

[opal nymph]

Or you just need a new home base

[fickle thicket]

even with home base i can patrol like 1 region in the pacific before no range

[opal nymph]

Ctrl right click to make a new home base or press the little cog thing

[opal nymph]

Is your carrier like a converted cruiser or something

[fickle thicket]

its js carrier 2s

[opal nymph]

Interesting, which country are you playing?

[fickle thicket]

america

[opal nymph]

Set home base as Guam or Manila

Then go for the Japanese Islands so they cant attack Hawaii

[fickle thicket]

every game thats what ive been doin

[opal nymph]

In my US game, I had patrol fleets of an escort carrier, a spotting heavy cruiser, and like 12 destroyer/seaplane tenders

I had 8 of those fleets patrolling and they wiped the Japanese navy

With my strike force dealing with the Japanese strike force

[fickle thicket]

alr

[opal nymph]

I may have had 60 dockyards as the US

[fickle thicket]

i usually have 40

i never build em js get them through two ocean navy act

[simple vine]

ughhhhhh

i am bad at this

[opal nymph]

You have no strength in your divisions

You also need to stop attacking because of that

And you should really get your field marshal and get a new general as well

Why do you have a bunch of frontlines

[simple vine]

so.. stop attacking play defense then attack again?

[opal nymph]

Yes

[simple vine]

idk how to delete them

[opal nymph]

There is a trashcan button

Or you select all your troops and ctrl click one of the frontlines

[simple vine]

done had to rright click on trash can

alr should i draw a front line and wait tilll my strength comes back

[opal nymph]

Wdym right click on the trash can?

What trash can did you click?

[simple vine]

right click on trash can deletes all orders

[opal nymph]

Oh

Huh, even i can learn new things

[simple vine]

so confusing

[oak mantle]

You didnt know that??

[opal nymph]

In either case

[quasi osprey]

I just bought Hoi4 for the first time🥳

[oak mantle]

Its so much better than left clicking then having to click on the order

[opal nymph]

Enjoy spending hours ripping your hair out

[oak mantle]

Just right click then redo the order u wanna keep

[quasi osprey]

Totally

[opal nymph]

I do suggest you watch the basics tutorial on the official hoi4 channel

And play the tutorial after that to understand basic game mechanics

Then it is trial and error to learn

[oak mantle]

Im finally finished or almost finished all the tests i need to complete before christmas

I had like 3 tests this week

Well 2

[simple vine]

yo we moving up in the world

[opal nymph]

You should make a field marshal frontline and make an offensive line. Then you can get planning bonus

Also, your troops really need guns or men

[simple vine]

offensive line with the field marshal or general

[opal nymph]

Field marshal

[simple vine]

k just asking field marshal is the guy with 1/5 slots and general with 1/24

[opal nymph]

Yes

[simple vine]

alr

k so this where i am at

how do i get them to stay on the defense

[opal nymph]

Press H to halt

[simple vine]

oh tuutorial had something like that

so press again whem im ready to attack

[remote quarry]

don't play this nation

most nations in this game are not meant to be played especially if you are new

[simple vine]

but being the under dog is so fun

[opal nymph]

If you want a beginner friendly nation, Hungary is better if you dont want to play a major

[opal nymph]

You picked one of the most bleak countries in the game

[simple vine]

lmao

[opal nymph]

You dont even have oil (in sufficient quantities)

[simple vine]

someone recommended yemen if i wanted to conquar the arab paninsula

[opal nymph]

Hungary, Canada, Germany, and US are beginner friendly nations

[opal nymph]

But why

The Arab peninsula has nothing but pain

[simple vine]

supossedly much stronger then saudi

[opal nymph]

No one there is industrialized

[opal nymph]

Huh, who knew Yemen had a higher core population

[vapid bough]

The number of Fifth Empire games that I have lost to my Axis getting their teeth kicked in is rapidly growing
Do I have to just go Desperate Defense subdoctrine to mass-produce line holders for them or something? (Portuguese manpower is BLEAK)

[simple vine]

ikr i was shocked to 😂

[opal nymph]

It seems you need to play firefighter

So get good special forces and such

[simple vine]

alr back to my conquest of Yemen

[opal nymph]

Or instead of special forces, some good shock troops

[vapid bough]

Main problem I found was really manpower and resources, Iberia just straight-up struggles to compete alone even when milked dry
New strat rn is to just put out 10w slop as coast guards while some actually good divisions go safariing

If I had a single drop of oil and a navy that didnt date back to the Fall of Rome maybe I couldve used that instead

[cunning crescent]

Can someone help me please

[dusky burrow]

Border gore be like

[dusky burrow]

You have good truck bonuses, you can probably unlock mechanized and act as d-day wall

Anyways, it's so Germanyover

[eager charm]

i might win the japanese civil war this time 🥹

[rigid elk]

Why doesnt hoi4 change the portraits of historical characters like why is enver hoxha and kim il sung even in the game as leaders if theyre portraits are just default

[eager charm]

or not

[indigo elk]

Kim is in the latest DLC I believe

[rigid elk]

No compromise no surrender?

I forgot i uninstalled it😭

[indigo elk]

Eh I think so. Swear I read he's a general

[indigo elk]

Why?

[rigid elk]

Chinas reworks were kinda buns

[dusky burrow]

Austria? What's that

[indigo elk]

They're harder right? I haven't played as them but everyone says they're more difficult. Japan seems to be quite difficult too until you nail down the plan.

[rigid elk]

Yes they give you god awful national spirits relating to army and economy and you barely have time to get rid of them before japan comes knocking

Dont they start justifying mid 37?

[indigo elk]

Good. Sounds like Chins is a mess, as it should be.

I'm not a fan of the game allowing everyone to avoid their historical struggles. Britain pumping out millions of men for example is just immersion killing, we reached our limit by 44 manpower wise.

[fickle thicket]

so peak

[cunning crescent]

Can someone help me

[indigo elk]

One thing I would love tocsee in an update is to make a preferential trade partner where the AI just auto buys and stops buying when needed. The trade screen is so many unnecessary clicks

[dusky burrow]

RIP Austria

[dusky burrow]

Oh nice you can give the Balkans to Hungary

[fickle thicket]

they already got Transylvania back and also germany is the faction leader so i can just go through yugo or fight the french via poland

also finland is in the faction

[dusky burrow]

Ah I see

[hollow narwhal]

well most countries have focuses to join or start tech sharing

also techncially wouldnt it be foci 🤔

[fickle thicket]

should i abandon finland the entente are flooding in troops

and i keep getting encircled

[vapid bough]

By the way what is that Industrial Sector Embargo thing I get when I declare the Fifth Empire, basically forced me to use the trade spy action to get anything done trade-wise

[dusky burrow]

It's over

[dusky burrow]

Hold along the lakes and probably hold Helsinki

Maybe abandon Karelia

[vapid bough]

My running wartime strategy now is to
cap France myself so Vichy doesnt spawn so I can take Algeria myself
Help Italy push Britain out of the Med
Basically Festung Europa until I have the army to kill them one by one

[fickle thicket]

im leaving the entire north holding the rivers at olonets and onega

leningrad also has 12 divs infont of that river in karelia

the south is starting to peel i might go to the stalin line

[vapid bough]

I just hope that my new army setup is enough to make Iberia and the Maghreb an unbreakable Portuguese fortress while I am able to fight the Allies elsewhere

[atomic grove]

why tf is chatgpt telling people to play saudi arabia

[ripe slate]

Cuz chatgpt is stupid

Especially regarding HOI

[atomic grove]

i mean yeah ik

but

im surprised its stupid enough

to tell people to play saudi arabia

of all nations

even iran would be better

[queen bronze]

how do i make spain let me put troops in so i can get thru gibralter

[atomic grove]

u get them into ur faction

i prefer to demand them as a puppet

not only can they not join allies because they are fascist, they are weak, and accept almost all the time

[queen bronze]

im germany

[atomic grove]

ik

do operation felix

[queen bronze]

ah yea thats right. thanks

[simple vine]

Yh ai screwed me on that

gpt also gets allot of things wrong in hoi 4

[atomic grove]

never ever ask any ai

about hoi

they are too stupid for this

[simple vine]

even tried other ai like gemini and grok both failed

[pine finch]

welp AI is giving me HOI4 screenshots 😭

[simple vine]

kind of surprising

[atomic grove]

saudi arabia not only does not have its own tree but also has a nonexistent industry and is surrounded by britain

u cant even kill iraq either because they r guaranteed

and yemen is stronger than u

[simple vine]

yh yemen is way stronger

[pine finch]

never ask AI about war thunder too

[simple vine]

also lets say that you conquer everythinig around you that is not guaranteed is it even possible to deal with brittain after that

[atomic grove]

it isnt

even if u somehow kill yemen

and iran

theres no way to expand further

[simple vine]

so how do you even conquar the arbian panninsula

[atomic grove]

its basically like ethiopia but even weaker

[atomic grove]

u dont

its really hard

as saudi arabia

[pine finch]

conquer as iran XD

[atomic grove]

iran is easier

i mean ur still surrounded by countries u cant kill

but atleast u still have content

afghanistan is weaker than u but they are impossible to kill

(as iran)

[mint adder]

So

In the end

Is this dlc good

Didnt play much

[fair horizon]

conquer them

[pine finch]

Can i send an image here that shows what happened when i asked AI for a Hoi4 image?

[atomic grove]

doesnt add much

[fair horizon]

no but thats because it didnt have any updates to countries i play /s

[atomic grove]

if u want to play the philippines, buy ncns

other than that

[mint adder]

Is the navy rework good?

[atomic grove]

it just adds ahistorical paths for japan, adds the naval supply hub and hq, and yeah

[pine finch]

I'm loyal to old naval mechanics (i just learnt it)

[mint adder]

What about coal

I heard its annoying

[atomic grove]

i honestly dont like the old way of getting naval supremacy

[pine finch]

it was so hard yeah

[fair horizon]

why what was wrong with it?

[mint adder]

Yeah i agree

[atomic grove]

it doesnt make sense for a country to instantly gain naval supremacy after 1 day

and plus

[mint adder]

It was pretty much boring

[fair horizon]

unless you're a major power tbh

[atomic grove]

its easier to invade britain via north sea now

[mint adder]

What about coal

I heard its not fun

[atomic grove]

i dont believe any country can organize all of their ships into 1 water zone to gain full supremacy of the region instantly

especially during ww2

[fair horizon]

britian did for many centuries

[atomic grove]

not instantly though

they were able to build a huge navy because no one was able to stop them

[fair horizon]

around the british isles id say they did tbh

like regional waters should be easy to get supremacy on imo

[outer mirage]

Hii everyone

[fair horizon]

but like across the world not near your coasts? yeah it makes sense you wouldnt instantly get it

[outer mirage]

OGs remember times when nobody was ever defending in Dover

[fair horizon]

tbf you shouldnt even be able to get supremacy without scouting planes/ships imo

[atomic grove]

that was before gotterdammerung

[outer mirage]

True but it would require industry tho

[outer mirage]

Yeah

[fair horizon]

did irl too

[atomic grove]

actual ethiopian empire

[fair horizon]

i hate it

that should be part of the british empire

[outer mirage]

Rushing 150- 200 civs before 1942 type run

[outer mirage]

Haile Selassie would be proud 🥲

[atomic grove]

speaking of haile

why the hell is he still an absent emperor when i killed britain

[heavy vigil]

he probably went to sweden, or germany, or japan

[fossil dragon]

I'm kinda stuck in china

[misty fossil]

kinda stuck in china is a bit of an odd name but its alr

[fossil dragon]

Played northestern army went down the empire path and here we are

[heavy vigil]

tried making air?

[misty fossil]

sounds like you're pushing with defensive army in no supply and red air

[fossil dragon]

Yeah china is in the axis for some reson

[fossil dragon]

Well i have 12w whit support arty

And i don't know what plane is

[misty fossil]

why are you surprised you arent winning?

you need proper offensive troops by 43

especially since china has german/italian reinforcements

[fossil dragon]

I'm not i just kinda supprised i pushed that far

[misty fossil]

sinkiang is a soviet puppet so

[fossil dragon]

Yeah like 90% of front is held by germany

[misty fossil]

yeah

[fossil dragon]

I'm in the comintern

[dusky burrow]

mountaineers our beloved

[fossil dragon]

I'm building like 5 supply hubs along the front

[misty fossil]

thats fair

i hate china

because of it

[fossil dragon]

Yeah i kinda suprised attacked them

And pushed them to nanjing before any of them even reached the front

[atomic grove]

is making a few of these a big brain move or just stupid (i cannot build an airforce and i urgently need to fight quickly)

[dusky burrow]

The problem is that they get stuck in battle

[atomic grove]

they arent supposed to fight

[dusky burrow]

So you have to micro it so that they don't

[atomic grove]

they are just supposed to sit in provinces

away from frontlines

[dusky burrow]

Typically this means they're very large divisions, and often you're using SPAA instead

[dusky burrow]

Yeah that doesn't work

[vital cove]

they don't do anything here sitting on provinces. but if they're in battle but in reserve only it does work

[dusky burrow]

divisional AA only shoots down planes that attack the front lines

[atomic grove]

oh

[vital cove]

you need to always have higher org units

which will enter battle

[dusky burrow]

They still shoot down planes if they are in reserve and thus not in combat

[atomic grove]

alright

[vital cove]

instead of them

you also don't nedd to make them motorized just make pure aa

[dusky burrow]

Yeah also that

[atomic grove]

ik

but i just want to make them fast

[dusky burrow]

So yeah there's three things you can do: Make them 20-width probably, put them near the front lines but not right on them, and then maybe un-motorize them

In any case, the GWR devs probably hate me

I won't tell them what hit them

[atomic grove]

yk what nvm

17 hp is absolutely bullshit for 20 width

and 3 org too

[dusky burrow]

I mean look at your division

Of course it only has 18 hp

[vital cove]

yeah that's the point

[dusky burrow]

The good thing is that your org isn't high either

[vital cove]

the higher org and hp units will enter combat

[dusky burrow]

So it won't take that much damage once it fully deorgs

And thus you can accidentally leave it in combat

You will still lose 60 AA guns if it fully de-orgs, so try not to let that happen

[vital cove]

remove all those support companies except anti air

you don't need them

[dusky burrow]

Also that

If you have a support company that gives HP but no org that would be ideal

[vital cove]

hospital ig?

[atomic grove]

oh right

however

if its only supposed to reserves, why not switch it all to spaa and not care about the combat width?

[icy crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/bofors-aa-gun-ww2-dong-gif-23180526

Building them gonna be not cheap.
Make sure they don't see actual combat.

[vital cove]

yeah the width doesn't really matter

tho maybe actually you do want to switch one row to a unit with some more hp so if they accidentally get in combat you won't lose all your aa instantly

[woeful night]

Im having trouble as the soviets

Can I ask which is better to utilize my spies italy or romania??

Because my goal as trotsky is to start a rebellion

Should I go italy??

[dusky burrow]

I imagine Italy

[fossil dragon]

Any idea if there is pangea map mod for the latest NCNS version

[simple vine]

I give up

got no more manpower left

[past elm]

what are the meme strats for the sovietss to get romania and turkey early cuz everytime i play the soviets i can never hold the germans

[fathom oyster]

I think I need help

[simple vine]

Yemen one day

[cosmic jay]

my game as San Marino (trying to form Adriatic empire, the colours are beautiful)

[rapid pebble]

which one is more historically accurate

i wanna do historical divisions

[cosmic jay]

that one

[rapid pebble]

hat

what

the left or the right one

[cosmic jay]

the one right there

[sudden thistle]

🔥

[simple vine]

yuh

[fathom oyster]

I feel like I'm screwed

[cosmic jay]

ts what i did as San Marino btw

[sudden thistle]

Uhuhhhh

[fathom oyster]

Guys I think I'm screwed

Communist Spain, France and Italy

What the hell should I do

[honest night]

It’s with the Turkish straights event, you can also just manually justify

[past elm]

?

[honest night]

Do you battle for bosp dlc?

[past elm]

nah

[honest night]

Than just justify then

[fading elk]

Always like a good balkanised Europe

Good for the soul

[bright arrow]

Isn't Europe already balkanized?

At this point its just minced meat

[knotty vortex]

whats the best nation to learn navy?

[bright arrow]

Japan, UK or US (unsurprisingly)

[knotty vortex]

i might try japan

[bright arrow]

If you want a harder challenge do Italy

[knotty vortex]

because my problem playing germany is, i take over europe

but then when i want to take on the uk

i have no clue how

[sudden thistle]

US
big industry to make navy
Great starting navy
If u fumble the UK can help u

[rain loom]

huh so doing anschluss in 1936 is possible

hmmmmm

[slim nexus]

Guys i learned navy

[knotty vortex]

very possible

[bright arrow]

Not really Anschluss?

[slim nexus]

I play better navy than plane

[bright arrow]

More like invadschluss

[knotty vortex]

ive managed it

and i SUCK

[past elm]

now i do

[rain loom]

idk i never play historical germany

i only do monarchy for the memes

[past elm]

the thing is ive tried a lot of times to beat germany as the sovietss aand hold them but i never seem to succseed

[slim nexus]

Germany historical strongest one in hoi4

[bright arrow]

When you start the game as Germany you can get a couple free war goals just cuz the UK isnt on the "guarrentee everyone" phase

[sudden thistle]

100%

[slim nexus]

Germany strongest country in hoi4

[rain loom]

i mean ig next is sudetenland in 37

[slim nexus]

I usually get anchluss in may 1936

[lavish cliff]

I don't play france but wtf is this template

[slim nexus]

4 combat insane

[bright arrow]

Me playing France in 1939 start date

You get 1 light tank division

Just a div with 1 light tank

And nothing more

[sudden thistle]

Esports Alta

[lavish cliff]

at least the inf templates are actually decent

[rain loom]

holy they actually accepted munich conference

crazy

[sudden thistle]

They always do

[rain loom]

but before 1937?

[cosmic jay]

its rt56

[lavish cliff]

historical always accepts no matter what

[rain loom]

but its before 1937

[bright arrow]

Dont matter

[rain loom]

dang

[knotty vortex]

whats the best stuff to research for navy? im playing japan

for the first time

[bright arrow]

Ships

Torpedos, naval bombers

[sudden thistle]

Yeah

[knotty vortex]

ships isnt very helpful

theres quite a few of those

[lavish cliff]

go carriers

[knotty vortex]

oh it seems japan are really up to date on navy

got about 3 years before i can research new ships

[lavish cliff]

best starting navy

[knotty vortex]

ah okay

do i want sonar

[fading elk]

I really gotta try rt56 some time

[queen bronze]

do countries tend to give up if i nuke them

[bright arrow]

No

[sudden thistle]

Not really worth it to research new ships unless its submarines

[knotty vortex]

ah okay

[bright arrow]

Unless it's japan in a very specific scenario

[knotty vortex]

i am japan

im probably gonna do historical japan too

[sudden thistle]

Like a battleship u research and get in 1940 will take until 1942 to build

[knotty vortex]

oh wow haha

[cosmic jay]

its peak

[bright arrow]

He is trying to learn navy, we could either teach to exploit the ai or do it like it should be done

[knotty vortex]

so i should really just get naval support upgrades?

[cosmic jay]

the expanded mod is peak too

[sudden thistle]

Exploits are boring

[bright arrow]

Yes

[sudden thistle]

Yes

[knotty vortex]

okay

ive already been told torpedos are good

i assume i need armaments for aa?

[bright arrow]

Whatever you do dont put lots of light turrets on a cruiser

[knotty vortex]

okay

can somebody like list the good upgrades

[knotty vortex]

navy is so frustrating

why couldnt it just work like land

[lunar hearth]

Heart of Iron 4

[knotty vortex]

how do i group my navy ships into armies

i literally do not understand it at all

[quasi osprey]

For a beginner is turkey an easy country not to get taken over in the first 3 seconds?

[atomic grove]

why

light cruisers are good

[desert echo]

Yo

How's Hoi4?

Getting better day by day?

[knotty vortex]

I took the whole of europe last night with the Axis

I took france, poland and czech at the same time

[desert echo]

Good job

[knotty vortex]

I was proud

Couldn’t take the soviets tho

[desert echo]

[desert echo]

Don't worry

We all start from our baby steps

If a baby never tried to walk, they'll always stay a baby

Being mature when you realized that whatever steps you take, it leads to somewhere new

[cunning crescent]

Can someone acc pls help

[stoic pendant]

is this miuttleuropa good?

[gleaming iron]

how do i save myself

i didnt have eden on 65+ reistance and now im facing this

[safe wing]

Should have befriended Finland and given them Karelia and Murmansk but other than that yes

and retake Eastern Germany from Poland too

[stoic pendant]

if i reinvade the sssr i might do that,
i invaded during the soviet civil war

[safe wing]

ah I see

kicked them while they were down

[stoic pendant]

i didnt mean to start the war with them, i was just gonna attack lithuania for memel but they went commie

[safe wing]

happened to me too

its even worse it you are House of Wettin Poland and Lithuania goes Commie

[stoic pendant]

damn, good thing i played germany

the monarchist tree is fire, but all of germanys trees are kinda fire

[safe wing]

agreed 100%

[stoic pendant]

other then democracy

idk who is gonna wanna play kingdom of germany

i use toolpack to give land to my allies/puppets

after the war with poland im gonna invade yugoslavia/romania

nvm

france

gonna ally uk before invading france

uk allied

[strong umbra]

15:1 death ratio

at beginning of barbarossa

german ai cooking

[solemn bay]

I am happy to be part of HOI4

[wary wigeon]

I wasn't fast enough

[wary wigeon]

What

[pale stream]

Erm actually, 1.5m to 120k is 12.5:1

[strong umbra]

ye idc

first time actually playing soviets btw

[desert echo]

As long as the purge is handled well, is good

[strong umbra]

ye struggled with that but its actually rly easy

[tame marlin]

just kill stalin

easy purge win

[strong umbra]

nah

[desert echo]

Just scam Stalin

[strong umbra]

I like my papa stalin

[strong umbra]

indeed

forge satisfactory production reports

[lilac hull]

just blame navy for everything

[strong umbra]

nah didn't need

no one killed

[desert echo]

I've been trying Siam for a while now, free civ factories for the win

[strong umbra]

no scamming stalin

[fervent tangle]

navy is confusing

[lilac hull]

satisfactory reports hurts eco

eco more important than navy

[strong umbra]

it doesn't

really