hoi4-general

[drowsy laurel]

Tf do I do with this

[junior imp]

Accurate d-day???

[sudden thistle]

No Canada

And no American paratroopers

[tough yoke]

does new dlc have CCP focus tree?

oh it does nvm

[warped flint]

What country are you playing?

[junior imp]

Austria Hungary

carrying the allies

1.8 Million Germans and 330K Romanians dead 660K Austria-Hungarians dead

The War has ended

[rancid onyx]

Hi

Can anyone recommend a fun country to play im getting bored of playing the same ones

[sudden thistle]

Just don’t play the same ones then 😭

[restive swift]

Chima

[heavy vigil]

kumul khanate

[woven bear]

someone polish?

[opaque reef]

great war redux

[slim nexus]

Hello stuttgart

[junior imp]

Big Country with gazillion different languages moment

[warped flint]

I want to do historical divisions but I have no clue where to find how they looked

[tiny tartan]

I like how everything's f***ed up, and then there's just England

[paper echo]

FR

[tiny tartan]

Sweden is ruled by Gavleborg, and right there you just have Ireland, Iceland, England

[junior imp]

What is this border crime

[paper echo]

every state independent mod

[junior imp]

I want to gouge my eyes out with my fingers and wash them in bleach

[paper echo]

shouldve seen how it was at the start

thats at the start

[junior imp]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-cut-him-down-tear-him-apart-splay-the-gore-gif-16211356125689318290

this should be

a crime to even,

look at

[paper echo]

they should make a magna europa version of this mod

[tiny tartan]

Omsk independent
The Great Trial awaits

[junior imp]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-thanos-talking-thanos-talk-break-your-neck-averagemcyt-gif-21130898

I have to break your neck, it isn't personnal trust me I'm just a messenger.

[paper echo]

and then 95% of the world kaboom

[paper echo]

lol

[tiny tartan]

btw I hate magna europa
it's laggy as shit

[paper echo]

when i quit hoi4 the game was running somewhat good

[paper echo]

for me it was fine

[paper echo]

at least way faster than at the start

the map also looked less bad

[proud tapir]

Based and dualmonarchypilled 🇦🇹🇭🇺

[junior imp]

very historical footage

[proud tapir]

real

[atomic carbon]

how much do they discoun the dlcs during christmas?

[sudden light]

Why do my 2 friends have the same checksum and mine is different even though we all have the same mods?

[atomic carbon]

what ship and what naval tech do i need to destroy the ai navy

[atomic carbon]

update base game

[lapis prairie]

I just spam torpedo destroyers

[atomic carbon]

thank you

[lapis prairie]

I just spam these out

and by 40 i have enough to sink the royal navh

[atomic carbon]

thanks

[sudden thistle]

verify files

[opal nymph]

Check if mods are updated as well

[dusky burrow]

Yeah that'd work

[sudden light]

I tried everything, reinstalling mods, verifying files, reinstalled the entire game and its still. the. same.

[dusky burrow]

although you may struggle against screens

[sudden thistle]

ask "them" to verify their files

that was the wrong character

them

[kind vale]

What ships can I build as Germany that'll shred the royal navy

[lilac finch]

.

[atomic carbon]

if i use this in singleplayer will i beat the ai

[kind vale]

Yeah

[atomic carbon]

thanks

[dusky burrow]

Naval bombers are useful too

use heavy fighter + 2 x torp (and yeah main armament has to be 1 lmg)

[atomic carbon]

is line infantry still bad with the new doctrines or is it good now

[strong umbra]

Italy if literally anybody else was the leader

[naive obsidian]

wasnt italy the worst axis

in ww2

[strong umbra]

yes

this is my first try btw

wasn't that hard tbh

[naive obsidian]

cool

now try as poland 1939 start

[strong umbra]

nah

[naive obsidian]

ok

[strong umbra]

ima just atraxk Switzerland so I can lise my cores

[bright arrow]

The border gore is horrendous

[strong umbra]

and get mussolini away

[naive obsidian]

you should take greece

and turkey

[strong umbra]

haven't gotten to that part yet

im trying to Romania empire pope

roman

[bright arrow]

Fight Germany

[strong umbra]

ik ik

[bright arrow]

They have a horrible leader in charge too

[strong umbra]

my army is worse then theirs tbh

[atomic vine]

hi guys

[strong umbra]

I just did some micro and cheesing

[atomic vine]

how do i downgrade my hoi4 to 1.17.2

[safe wing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsO8atg9_6M

this still works

[deep silo]

Damn, played Belgium after a year

It's way harder now

I don't even know why Tbf, maybe I'm just even worse than a year ago at this gale

[dusky burrow]

yeah but in game France is so bad you can basically defeat most of mainland Europe in 1937

And then with the actually decent Italian air force as well as half of Europe's resources you can sealion in 1938

[naive obsidian]

true

i like italy

i dont play base hoi4 anymore though too boring

[crude bronze]

i was actually doing good and this randomly happened (blood alone dlc)

my stability was good i even had a good chunk of europe

[dusky burrow]

Ah yeah you can't let the enemy get onto your cores

[naive obsidian]

i either just play the fire rises or that one avatar mod and roll back my version

[crude bronze]

now i am forced to be a puppet

[dusky burrow]

You can actually core all of Africa now so it's not too bad

[crude bronze]

the only cores they had was sardinia

thats all

[naive obsidian]

do you know of any mods that are hard

[crude bronze]

somehow it was enough for civil war

i heard blood alone has alot of bugs

might be why

[split bane]

When you lose your cores the balance of power starts ticking towards the Grand Council, if it makes it all the way to the Grand Council's side you get the civil war

[void bramble]

Are any of the China warlords like main China or communist China fun to play with the new DLC?

[crude bronze]

why the hell does uk annex mosseland everytime

[dusky burrow]

Yeha you lose 0.5 a week i believe

it's slow but you need to get it back up

[dusky burrow]

kumul khanate

i mean that is fun, but apparently northwestern army is also somehwat fun too

i don't think normal xinjiang is that much different either

[silent root]

what am I even doing bruh

[strong umbra]

wait a sec I capped basically the entire allies in 1940 and I need to decrease mussolini support so ima lose cores will I go into a civil war?

[knotty vortex]

just played my first ever game

holy shit

it was a lot

as the germans i ended up in a european pact with the USSR and opposing italy?!

[dusky burrow]

If you lose cores for too long you will go into civil war

but that said, you can also just remain favoring the council of fascism for a long time

so a civil war is not a certainty

in fact you need to do quite a bit to trigger the civil war

[silent root]

never in my hoi4 life have I taken berlin as netherlands

[solar tundra]

my croatia playthrough

[proud tapir]

Savršeno

🔥

Rightful Croatian territory

From Ilok to Venice

[solar tundra]

This was just after the defeat of the Axis

[proud tapir]

Republic of Croatia too, very based unlike the cringe ustaše

[solar tundra]

Then Yugoslavia broke apart and romania attacked transylvania and brought the Croatia Union into war against romania

then romania joined the soviets and called them in before they lost

[proud tapir]

the only Croatia i will accept as a Croat is the kingdom of Illyria lead by Stjepan Radić under Austria Hungary 🥹

Kaiserreich knows how to make a man happy

[solar tundra]

Croatia took all the soviet italian territory

[proud tapir]

Based

all of the Adriatic belongs to Croatia

all the coasts belong to us

i remember playing Croatia in Novum Vexillum

generic focus tree but argubly the most powerful army from former Yugoslav states

very fun

[solar tundra]

The good america won the civil war now

There's now one america again

Idk why they did that

[dawn mango]

had to post unfortunally

[quiet vessel]

if u could buy all dlcs but one of them which one u not buying

[proud tapir]

graveyard of empires

[vague abyss]

4000 views on my mod, 1000 downloads thats a 1 in 4 conversion W

[quiet vessel]

lowk forgot it even existed

[vagrant burrow]

Congratz

[vague abyss]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3621358522

[quiet vessel]

i saw that in the steam workshop today lol

[proud tapir]

soon to be dlc

Trust

[vague abyss]

yea

[vague abyss]

try this one then https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3614080182

its lesser known but should be in base game

[quiet vessel]

hmm no

[vague abyss]

ok

[vague abyss]

eventually they will

been waiting 2 years though

so

[vagrant burrow]

Great idea

[solar tundra]

We also have part of iraq of course

USA and Japan are members of the croatian union

[vague abyss]

current situation

[unkempt orchid]

So you use the tank designer and then change from there

[vague abyss]

current inf

[unkempt orchid]

and make gfx

[vague abyss]

yeah

[unkempt orchid]

how did you make this middle screen

or what it's called

[vague abyss]

inf stats

[unkempt orchid]

you do gfx right?

[vague abyss]

Me? no

mspaint at best

unless you ask me to construct a venator in blender with 4k textures

😉

[fierce mist]

How tf are you gonna afford an army with that

[vague abyss]

Oh I am a 5000 hour player

I like adding arty etc into divs

with low ecos

[fierce mist]

Either im dumb and suck or im right, when i played china yesterday i didnt heven have equipment for 72 12 with inf never that i would even afford art and anti air on them when war with japan.
And yes its the same path annex the negibores but i guess i just suck

[vague abyss]

Just use 12W inf, maybe with engineering comps

and then 10W 15 divs on ports

thats what I would recommend

when you can, invest in AA

support AA

[scarlet cliff]

yes

[vague abyss]

@fierce mist

[sudden thistle]

bro

[vague abyss]

I have 0 troops on beijing, I haven't lost it and I have a bulky army like bruh

japans literally been doing tanks since 36 so I am forced to add some AT grenades like bruhhh

[quasi viper]

Is there an option to restore the Qajars and recore North Azerbaijan and Armenia?

[sudden thistle]

holy shit its the man in the castle

i wonder how high that castle is

[vague abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/john-smith-man-on-the-high-castle-general-gif-24276896

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/enjoy-it-have-fun-enjoy-yourself-enjoy-rufus-sewell-gif-15585402

[vague abyss]

seems pretty high ig

dont fall or anything

[sudden thistle]

u think its worth for poland to get AT in their support

like ai tanks are shit

[vague abyss]

in sheeps yeah

but arty does it

[sudden thistle]

sheeps is down so im doing vanilla

[vague abyss]

new doctorine arty if you get it is better then adding AT

[sudden thistle]

my AA will give a bit of piercing!

[vague abyss]

meh

just use arty

wanna be dynamic with ur arty?

i gotchu

for the price of £9999.999 u can get this artillery!

[sudden thistle]

is that god of war

or ur own

[vague abyss]

my own

[sudden thistle]

ok

[vague abyss]

although I implemented parts of GOW with permission

im about to unlock flamethrowers for my inf lets goo

[sudden thistle]

do all nations start with a default arty template

[vague abyss]

modded ones

germanys standard 1939 inf at the moment

cheap

germanys arty atm

[sudden thistle]

hmmm

i mayyyyy download it

but im too poor for it

[vague abyss]

i gib u it for free cos ur my fav mod

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3621358522

everyones begging for a RT56 version

and im here like sleepy af all week

[sudden thistle]

since when am i a mod

[vague abyss]

i made u into a hoi4 mod

[sudden thistle]

wha

[vague abyss]

u give 1000% pp gain

[atomic vine]

only big problem is that i cant log in my account

and paradox helps me by dont sending me the email to reset my password

[sudden thistle]

i downloaded it and my pc instantly got like 20 fps

[vague abyss]

what

😭

[sudden thistle]

wait its gone now

[vague abyss]

this really doesn't effect optomisation

[sudden thistle]

too much to download bro

[vague abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/walks-away-simpsons-bush-hide-homer-gif-15348905

12MB

🥀

[sudden thistle]

Too much

Optimize please

[vague abyss]

fine ill make it 10MB

just for u

[fierce mist]

bro proably a reason to why you win lol

The ai wont design infantry stuff cause it isnt programmed with the mod only you as a player can witch just gives you even more of an upperhand to the alredy exisiting sucky ai

more stats bro

[vague abyss]

there is AI code for the equipment

needs a bit more updating but it is

and I mean I am winning because I know how to play the game and expert AI is disabled.

[dusky burrow]

wait what's the mod? I've seen it before but haven't used it

[fierce mist]

prove it

[dusky burrow]

Oh

[vague abyss]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3621358522

[fierce mist]

nvm

i just saw

okay you right

[vague abyss]

it chooses the most up to date ones, improved inf equipment when they unlock it usually,

but they wont add multiple of the additional stuff a lot of the time

as its AI

so its easier for cheaper inf guns

[frank comet]

Is it still fine to run multi-player even if I drop to 15 fps in Single player games

[dusky burrow]

this is hilarious

[vague abyss]

THAT

is a paradox issue

since MIO's came out, when people mod interfaces you cannot get the tank MIO's removed.

[safe wing]

Best infantry division and tank division for Germany

[vague abyss]

We did add the inf MIO's and arty for arty though

[safe wing]

I figured its gonna be ?/0 for infantry

[vague abyss]

but the way its coded is when it detects a tank interface it will utilise the tank MIOS

[vague abyss]

wait till he sees the train designer

https://tenor.com/view/caledonian-railway-caledonian-railway-train-gif-14021040

don't ask where the trains go though

we don't talk about that

[kind vale]

The what.

[vague abyss]

train

[dusky burrow]

Ah I seee

[viscid swift]

guys should i go to sleep or play HOI4 (its 1 am)

[vague abyss]

was thinking of making it so the trains always use 1 coal

[tulip thorn]

How many designer mods are you using

[kind vale]

Why are we putting weapons on trains

[tulip thorn]

Thats so funny

[vague abyss]

since paradox didn't know trains use coal

[vague abyss]

just one mod

[kind vale]

Play hoi4

[viscid swift]

bet

[tulip thorn]

How many designers does that one mod add

[kind vale]

500

[vague abyss]

train, inf, arty

[tulip thorn]

Manpower designer

[vague abyss]

might add mech designer because @heavy vigil asked

[viscid swift]

my parents are gonna kill me if they check my room 🔥

[vague abyss]

but ill have to create a new tank interface for it all

[kind vale]

Good

[tulip thorn]

oh damn you making it yourself

[vague abyss]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3621358522

[tulip thorn]

Nice

[kind vale]

Can I put a rpg on the guns

[vague abyss]

uhhh

cold war update coming 2026

lmao

[vital cove]

is it actually an amount that is of any significance compared to industry

[kind vale]

Is it compatible with md?

[vague abyss]

1 factory on 1 train = 1 coal

and 1 steel

ill be adding it in tommorows update

currently germanys 21W template

and doctorine

so if u want an idea of a 1940 mobile warfare germany with the inf stuff, its pretty similar to base

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-artillery-cannon-zis-3-firing-gif-10889269028097843985

[viscid swift]

i love democracy

[vague abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-it-gif-18812641

[cosmic jay]

attezione

antegren

antagren

antagren

[vague abyss]

angetreten?

[cosmic jay]

no

[vague abyss]

there goes the japs gg

[vagrant burrow]

Angeschlossen

[cosmic jay]

angeattezione

angezione

[vagrant burrow]

Somewhere on Reddit someone wrote Austria "got anschlussed" and it sounds super ridiculous as a native speaker

[low fulcrum]

i started my my first campaign as germany and did the civil war as my first choice and won and finished it by august 1937, is there any guide one how i should make my troop templates and what i should build and not build? i think i read heavy tanks are the meta for germany. please and thanks
and do you have have any tips on what i should prioritize to do before the big wars kick off

[heavy vigil]

huh

[vague abyss]

u asked about the mech designer being added

[sudden thistle]

Please speed I NEED this

[vague abyss]

oh it was u

not him

ofc

[sudden thistle]

My mechanized are kinda designerless

[vague abyss]

mehhhh ill look into it in future

[sudden thistle]

(It would be so awesome)

(It would be so cool…)

[ancient marsh]

plan z is a lot more fun now

[vague abyss]

here we go

[ancient marsh]

sank like 4 carriers

[silk night]

guys help

what templates are best against late game ai

and send images if u can

[sudden thistle]

Nuclear bomb

[vague abyss]

sheeps also helping so we are gonna look at having an option for the AI to produce top templates only btw

[pine shoal]

Tf is going on here

[pine shoal]

My rise of nations brain cant presses this mess

[vague abyss]

im just gonna le tthem push cos barbs coming

[pine shoal]

Bloodshed. Exiting

[vague abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-does-he-know-gif-26833694

[atomic carbon]

if im playing a country thats too weak to produce tanks what infantry should i use

[vague abyss]

200 guns a day

[pine shoal]

Thats the American spirit

[vague abyss]

the problem is the whole soviet armys here

[pine shoal]

While at it, en script kids too, we need to man up this kiddos

[atomic carbon]

i once had 2000 a day.. heh

[pine shoal]

Wawi

[vague abyss]

yes sire

we own this though

[atomic carbon]

inf spam till theres no one keft to kill

[vague abyss]

we're on full retreat

[vague abyss]

I have been

we're waiting for barb

then we will be able to counter

[atomic carbon]

damn nice would u recommend buying the dlc?

[vague abyss]

yea

[atomic carbon]

im kinda shit at the game tho 😭 is it hard

[silk night]

guys

question

can i make space marines without tank designer

[atomic carbon]

yes but they wont be very good

[silk night]

alr what type of template do you suggest for 1939-1940 ai

[vague abyss]

#ask-for-help-here

[silk night]

if there are any i can do

[atomic carbon]

im lowkey shit at the game u shouldnt adk me 😭

[vague abyss]

finally barb

time to counter

[opal nymph]

Is 8 months quick?

[still loom]

More dudes!

[novel otter]

prioritize economic growth or the four year plan

[opal nymph]

Four Year Plan if you can win quickly

[lilac glen]

Where is that 50% coming from??? 😭😭😭😭😭

[still loom]

They come out of nowhere. Dark Necromancy

Just like Marx portrait

[lilac glen]

Damn

Btw

Have Space Marines been nerfed?

I just tried them for the first time

And well

27.0 armor is kinda shit for the investment

How do I improve this?

Accept the loss and add more tanks?

[lost hemlock]

Just as L'empereur intended

[orchid moat]

is there a mod like player led peace conferences that also lets you give the ai a puppet

[quasi viper]

I can't for the life of me figure out which mod this stupid looking generic portrait is coming from.

[barren coyote]

In case you all were wondering, this is what happens when you forget to send volunteers to spain to grind:

[jade hearth]

Question. In the subdoctrines
when it says " instantly grants" does that mean it affects ALL ships or just for that ship in the sub doctrine

[slim nexus]

am i the one who hates the new navy?

like wtf is this?

why do I have to micro the damn sea just to pull off a 2 troop naval invasion

[split bane]

I think it works like
If it says "Ship attack" that's the attack for all ships but if it says "Screens attack" it's just for screens
But idk, I haven't figured out the new doctrines just yet

[winter fulcrum]

okay um so anytime theres a fascist poland civil war, the ai gets the default focus tree, not the polish focus tree. is that supposed to happen?

[daring geyser]

usually one side of the civil war will always have the generic focus tree because they split the tag into a generic variant w generic civil war tag

unless directly specified by the game, generic civil war nations will have generic focus trees

[atomic grove]

is this normal

[rapid pebble]

yeah so Im cooked

(the left ss is japan

Im playing as germany

and its october

Im doing everything

100% historical

[leaden wraith]

i have finally decided to do some achievements

[wintry drum]

What width should defensive infantry be (playing as Finland and planning to give them engineers as well as support AA&Arty)

[last sail]

Don't know if this is by miracle or not but I got pretty much the same historical borders post World War on my USA Run.

AND Semi-Reunification

[dusky burrow]

poland be like

[rapid pebble]

brick

get 18-21w

[wintry drum]

How do I get 21 width infantry?

[dusky burrow]

actually don't

ideally remain below 20w

[wintry drum]

So 18 width?

[broken sky]

Yes.

[wintry drum]

Sweet.

[dusky burrow]

yeah 18w works

[broken sky]

When I do Finland, I usually just do 10w + 18-24w in the mix, lovely results

Finland's defense bonuses are actually insane

I can get numbers between 1000 - 2000 for some reason

[wintry drum]

Can I do just 18w, or should I really add a 10w?

[viscid stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/timmytoughknuckles-gif-17877644769817608506

[kind vale]

Next you should do everything when hitler actually planned to

[split bane]

Old Hirohito jumpscare

[atomic grove]

why are there 2 japans

[kind vale]

Superheavy battlecrusiers

[fair horizon]

vile

[wary sparrow]

really great luck with this run, uk went communist and released all its african stuff and france got pummeled by everyone

[fair horizon]

only greater italy? why not reform rome?

[wary sparrow]

romes boring

i like interesting borders

plus my goal isnt just to attack everyone around me

[desert echo]

French commune lmao

[wary sparrow]

its a british puppet

[desert echo]

What German is that? Czech is still alive so I guess it's the monarchy one?

[wary sparrow]

yup

[desert echo]

W Ai

[wary sparrow]

ai was bonkers in europe

[desert echo]

And Sov turned into Russian Federation?

[wary sparrow]

nah it became monarchy

[desert echo]

Ooh

[wary sparrow]

but somehow became a japan puppet

idk how

[desert echo]

How the hell bruh

[wary sparrow]

the world is ugly

[desert echo]

I forgot about Japan's national tree focus but I remember a lil bit that there's one or two that's connected with Sov

Meanwhile Sov also has something that's connected with the Japanese empire if I remember correctly

When playing Rus democracy (during the civil war) there's a path where you promised Japan that you'll give North Sakhalin in exchange to help you in war, but yeah... Not connected with Rus getting puppeted by Japan

[wary sparrow]

there is no democratic russia

only monarchy and fascism

[desert echo]

Really?

[wary sparrow]

mhm

[desert echo]

I forgor then

[wary sparrow]

but the path you mentioned is in the revolution path

and russia did do that

[desert echo]

True, it's hell for me

But at least I got Zhukov, that's gotta be counted as a win

[jaunty sandal]

i think prc is op

[kind vale]

But Rome has way more cores

[gloomy steppe]

if you wanna play mutiplayer the server is called metamemer and the password is k

[kind vale]

Why do I lose so many guns when fighting china as japan

[gloomy steppe]

because u have 2 milatary factorys

[raw tulip]

attrition

[gloomy steppe]

and that

anyway who wannna play mutiplayer???

[kind vale]

Nah i got 10 on guns

[gloomy steppe]

ok

[raw tulip]

attrition

china has very bad infastructure

very few supply hubs

i rarely play it

[kind vale]

Im actively upgrading it as I push

[gloomy steppe]

do u wanna play mutiplayer????

[raw tulip]

im runnin singles till i get better lol

[gloomy steppe]

yeah u should build supplyhubs and railways before u attack someone

[gloomy steppe]

how many hours u got?

[raw tulip]

not even 30

[gloomy steppe]

i can help u

[kind vale]

I got lvl 3 railways going from hub to hub rn

[gloomy steppe]

yeah

[raw tulip]

dw i ask around if i need help

im trying to win my first game

[gloomy steppe]

ok i just realy wanna play mutiplayer

[kind vale]

Ima just let them keep attacking my infantry while I produce some tanks

[gloomy steppe]

who are u playing as?

[raw tulip]

uh italy sometimes german reich

rn italy

[gloomy steppe]

u should play united kingdom cos in the free man the guns dlc u can annex the domions (aus canada newzealand and maybe india if they say yes)

[kind vale]

Are you using the starting templates?

[kind vale]

They dont have to say yes just mass produce buildings in india

[gloomy steppe]

germany is good but its better when u have 100 hours cos u will know how to use spear heads and i allways beat france with those lol

[raw tulip]

nah

[raw tulip]

idk if i have that

[kind vale]

Okay good

[gloomy steppe]

yeah but if they say no for the last thingy u discuse the raj wont be annexed

[kind vale]

Yeah

500k losses for china

Ima just let it keep going up

[raw tulip]

i have la resistance, battle for bosporous, no step back, by blood alone, arms against tyranny, trial of allegiance. gotterdamerung, graveyard of empires and no compromise no surrender

[gloomy steppe]

the man the guns is free

[raw tulip]

oh fr?

[gloomy steppe]

allso play the road to 56 mod its better then the base game

[raw tulip]

whats that do

[gloomy steppe]

wait can u design ship?

[gloomy steppe]

it adds heaps more stuff

[raw tulip]

wdym

[gloomy steppe]

yeah u have man the guns cos they added it to the base game

[raw tulip]

oh cool

i didnt notice

[gloomy steppe]

yeah

it adds a ship editor

[raw tulip]

yeah i thought that like

was already

in

[gloomy steppe]

ok

[kind vale]

China keeps throwing men at my wall😭

I have 100% win ratio in the past 3 months

[broken sky]

As long as you can hold, then go for it.

[gloomy steppe]

who wanna play road to 56 expaned mutiplayer?

[viscid stirrup]

yo yo yo

wassuo chat

[gloomy steppe]

yo wanna play road to 56?

mutiplayer

[gloomy steppe]

wanna play mutiplayer

[viscid stirrup]

np

no

[gloomy steppe]

ok

[warped flint]

should I do historical divisions hungary

[gloomy steppe]

ehh no

[kind vale]

Nah make Hungary op

[gloomy steppe]

wanna play mutiplayer?

[warped flint]

I made them op a lot

[warped flint]

not really

[gloomy steppe]

i have all dlc btw

[gloomy steppe]

ok

[kind vale]

Make Tibet great

[gloomy steppe]

i realy wanna play mutiplayer

[gloomy steppe]

yeah do that

[gloomy steppe]

take over china as tibet and build a big navy and take over the uk and france then blitz though germany and take the ussr

[warped flint]

nooooo\

I want to do historical divisions but idk how to find them

[kind vale]

I'm playing as japan

[gloomy steppe]

tibet had no army the leader is the army cos he has a good jawline

[kind vale]

Do historical Bhutan

[warped flint]

NO

NO

NO

[gloomy steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/لييوو-gif-16809754927858649993

[kind vale]

Its jun 1940 and i haven't gotten to nanjing

[gloomy steppe]

ok

[kind vale]

I have killed 3 million Chinese tho

[gloomy steppe]

are u able to play mutiplaer after plssssssssss

[kind vale]

No

I dont have internet

[gloomy steppe]

then how are u talking are u using hotspot?

[kind vale]

Phone

[gloomy steppe]

ok

[inner iron]

Man never built an airforce for 50-100 ground attack on the Chinese

[kind vale]

I got planes

I have been attacking at all

[inner iron]

China is supposed to be semi rushed for the industry tho

Like you get max mastery from just battleplanning them

[kind vale]

Eh

Im enjoying the 10-1 loss ratio

[warped flint]

some one pick a path for me

[viscid stirrup]

communism

[kind vale]

Communist

[junior imp]

Communist or Austro Hungary

[desert cradle]

any1 wanna play mp?

[warped flint]

Ok

Which one

[desert cradle]

bela kun

sfr

the others are boring

[warped flint]

okay

[viscid stirrup]

right

[inner iron]

Bela kun casually conscripting over 1mil Hungarians for war

Done that before

[split fulcrum]

This one

Because i am hungry

[junior imp]

Unrealistic

communism

hows the template gng?

[warped flint]

bad

remove all line artillery and all anti tank

recon cavalry remove to

[junior imp]

Anything else?

[broken sky]

Nope. Just the 18 width and the arty + eng + AA

[split fulcrum]

Try switching them with heavy tanks

[junior imp]

Don't got them

[warped flint]

nah

[split fulcrum]

20 light tanks then

[inner iron]

Austria specifically would be fine with recon rangers for the defence buff in the mountains

[junior imp]

I got mediums gng

never researched anything other than Medium for tanks

[strong umbra]

keep the artillery if this a breakthrough division

and if you're keeping the artillery also keep the cavalry recon

maybe like remove both anti tanks

[junior imp]

Its Normal Infantry for both use but the soviets are kinda too weak to do offensives so you can count it as that

[strong umbra]

and add one art

[strong umbra]

oh then its way too expensive

[junior imp]

I can't run out of them

Boutta core germany

[strong umbra]

wtf are these generals

[inner iron]

I've burned through a million guns before

[junior imp]

don't ask

[junior imp]

how did you manage thatr

[inner iron]

I battleplanned a full stack Chinese army through Siberia all the way to Brest

[strong umbra]

if you can burn 10mil men then you can basically burn 1 million guns

[inner iron]

Yes, I was fighting every European major

[junior imp]

Deserved

[strong umbra]

dont rly have to produce anything beside guns if ur china

[inner iron]

Yes, I actually pushed to Brest on a battleplan

[strong umbra]

how?

what template?

[junior imp]

what are the allies cooking

The soviets should have 200-300 divs where are they

[strong umbra]

how manpower do u have in the field?

[inner iron]

27w mountaineers

[strong umbra]

7+2?

[inner iron]

Nope just pure mountaineers

[strong umbra]

oh

[inner iron]

I shat out so many garrisons as China that I fielded a full field marshal army of them

[strong umbra]

I rly wouldn't do that except if I have basically unlimited special forces cap

[harsh herald]

Guys is deathstacking not a viable method in navy cause i have put like 4 carriers, 35 light cruisers, and a 100+ destroyers yet i can't get naval superiority

[inner iron]

You don't need that many cruisers

[strong umbra]

in multiple task forces right?

right?

and you do have fuel right?

right?

and you do have planes for the carriers right?

[harsh herald]

I usually put them in a single admiral then i divided the fleet to 4, oil/fuel is not an issue

And i fill the carriers with naval bombers only

[strong umbra]

ok

which country are u?

[harsh herald]

Historical germany

[strong umbra]

plan z? or sub warfare

[inner iron]

My avarage fleet composition is 30 destroyers, 20 lights, a sprinkle of capitals and 2-3 carriers

[harsh herald]

Plan z

[strong umbra]

ahhh

you but the thing is America has like 20 carriers

and we haven't even begun on britain

[harsh herald]

My gameplay here mirrors what a typical japan player would do so like my army is just infantry with artillery and i heavily invested on planes

[inner iron]

The AI is exceptionally stupid at managing navies with the new patch, their carriers are so exposed now

[strong umbra]

ik

but still

[inner iron]

Especially the US

[strong umbra]

I got navel supremacy with basically base german fleet in the channel

it was short lasted

but still enough to channel invade

[stuck oracle]

"Grand battleplan is meta"

[inner iron]

The US has mini fleets of either 8 destroyers or 3 light cruisers that get clapped on

[harsh herald]

How? Should i span the channel with planes then

[strong umbra]

Just wait for an ipening

when they dont deploy their ships there

or like less than 40-50

[harsh herald]

I swear to god if i can't do navy i'll just paradrop uk and hope they survive

[inner iron]

Britain stops projecting when you actually port strike their ships and force them to repair

[strong umbra]

then deploy your ships

[viscid stirrup]

it is

[inner iron]

Their screens melt away

[strong umbra]

they should they have so many ports

[stuck oracle]

Just paradrop after putting a bomb on the tile, its not that hard

[inner iron]

The weakest spot for Britain is usually the port next to London, unless they have naval invasions planned on you

[stuck oracle]

I recieve 0 bonuses rn

[harsh herald]

I heard its a bad idea to para dover cause it shreds paras but idk why

[viscid stirrup]

ok lil vro

[stuck oracle]

Damn bro, who hit you in the nuts

Its not that serious

[stuck oracle]

Forts and air defense

Also usually the army thats gonna do dday is on there

So bomb a different port to lower unit strength and forts, then go in

[harsh herald]

Should i let them land so i could port cheese them?

[stuck oracle]

Oh def

Damn british

Its easy doable

[cold wedge]

just get 9382 aircraft carriers

[stuck oracle]

Just put an army on port guard

[split fulcrum]

Roleplay as pirate trolls in eu4 or try playing as japan in hoi4?

[stuck oracle]

They will automatically clean up

[harsh herald]

I am baiting them with 9-1 infantry port guards

[stuck oracle]

Do you like anime or pirates of the carrebian more

[split fulcrum]

Pirates of the Caribbean

[stuck oracle]

Youre welcome

[inner iron]

I made a pirates of the azores custom nation and it was hilarious to dunk the spanish treasure fleet

[split fulcrum]

native pirate custom nation??

Did you make them pirate republic?

[inner iron]

I made them Romanian for obvious reasons

[inner iron]

Either that or admiralty but then you need to get more privateering efficiency from your ideas

Pirate republic I think gets different flavour to the focus tree too

You can claim all the Caribbean

[warped flint]

Should czechoslovakia decline the german ultamatium now

since im at war with them?

or was that the sudetenland

[split fulcrum]

focus tree

Well i guess this IS hoi4 discord

[inner iron]

Focus tree, missions tree

You get the gist

[junior imp]

Hows the template gng

[strong umbra]

id go flametank or assault engineer

[inner iron]

Godawful

[strong umbra]

instead of regular

[junior imp]

Don't have

Projects make the game crash for whatever reason when I try to get scientist

[strong umbra]

why

its 1944

your a major

[junior imp]

Idk

[strong umbra]

dayum

[junior imp]

Anything to change?

[inner iron]

You don't need support arty and support AT if your org is that abysmal

[strong umbra]

dont even use anti tank in the first place

[junior imp]

Anything else?

[tight sluice]

I never build anti-tank cannons

[strong umbra]

me neither

[junior imp]

I had to

[strong umbra]

why

[junior imp]

Austria vs Germany

[strong umbra]

you have 350 mills

[strong umbra]

you dont have to

you can easily win without

[junior imp]

Better increase chances

[inner iron]

Support anti air breaks german light tanks

[junior imp]

crazy

[strong umbra]

like 10 percent max of their army is armored

[warped flint]

bro

genuinely dont care ima give me that with consoles

[strong umbra]

90 percent is infatry

maybe even more

[junior imp]

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

[strong umbra]

Just let them tanks roll in and cut off their lines

[junior imp]

I did NOT have a good offensive division during the war

I only got to change it when germany lost a few states to me

[strong umbra]

9×9 infantry does the job

[inner iron]

Not even mountaineers?

[strong umbra]

with support eng and art

[inner iron]

They're cheap

[junior imp]

only 2

[warped flint]

germany magically got like 70 perceant war score

they were in the war for like 2 weeks

not even

and I was the one actually fignting a army

[strong umbra]

thats annoying tbh

[junior imp]

They prob got it with air and random spamming sudetenland

Anything else to change in the Tank div temp?

[strong umbra]

I am Italy and im at war for 3yeras now I capped Czech rom Yugoslavia France UK and took the entirety of Africa Germany is in the war for 2 weeks and they get 20percent

[inner iron]

You coulda finished both mountaineer and ranger doctrines for more special forces cap

[junior imp]

War effort is deff balanced

[deep silo]

Is the AI still not attacking lvl 10 forts?

[junior imp]

I wasn't making enough exp to finish due to the AI not attacking my forts I got my army experience when Poland joined and got my whole flank exposed which I encircled and removed

[junior imp]

sometimes

They don't even attack 2 forts sometimes

[inner iron]

They bomb forts before they attack

[junior imp]

Yes

Had that happen to me as poland

[strong umbra]

btw I hate logistics strike

ots so annoying

[junior imp]

Everyone does

[strong umbra]

they should remove it

[harsh herald]

Yall notice china falls around 1940

[strong umbra]

from the game

[inner iron]

Just have armored trains

[strong umbra]

how

[tight sluice]

In the past, Austria's Seven Infantry and Two Artillery could stop Germany, but now the artillery has been nerfed

[inner iron]

Build them

[strong umbra]

am I supposed to put 5mills on them or what

[inner iron]

I usually have 1-2 mils on trains

[strong umbra]

if im a minor i cant afford that and have an army

capable of holding

if im a major i build airplanes

[inner iron]

Armored trains shoot down enemy planes so it's equivalent to having more anti air

So it's not a waste as a minor

[strong umbra]

if I put one mill on it I get basically none

[strong umbra]

I proce one a month

and they bomb 4

the math aint mathing

[inner iron]

They bomb your civ trains, armored trains tend to be immune to logi strikes

[tight sluice]

In this version, Japan is especially strong

[harsh herald]

I mean usually as a minor country i usually focus on guns, artillery, and armored trains before anything

[strong umbra]

but should I go austerity or armored

[inner iron]

Armored

[strong umbra]

I usually put one one austerity and one on armored tbh

[inner iron]

So you wasted extra research for austerity trains as a minor

I'm bewildered

[strong umbra]

noo support equipment?

[harsh herald]

I mean if you want you could buy trains on the market as usa sells some of theirs in early game

[strong umbra]

its fine

all im researching anyways is inf and economy

maybe artillery and support

but that's it

i cant afford anything else

[harsh herald]

That's asking to much, 9-1 infantry is goated in any scenario

[strong umbra]

aa a minor

[warped flint]

Is mechanized considered mounted infantry?

[inner iron]

I always feel screwed not having air by midgame as a minor

[strong umbra]

9-1-1 is way better in my opinion

ok this looks bad

it dont mean it as in 9/11

I mean like eng and art

[harsh herald]

1 medium anti air tank or just regular anti air?

[strong umbra]

I meant like artillery and engineer

I usually build one aa in the state itself

[tight sluice]

@warped flintNot really

[harsh herald]

Atp i rather invest on super cheap light anti air tank, they valid on countries like iran or the philippines

[warped flint]

okayyy

just confirming cause I sorta wanna do this

[strong umbra]

oh were talking about different types of minor

[harsh herald]

Are you talking abt axis minors?

[strong umbra]

I meant more like Romania or the Netherlands or smth like that

the ones that have a decent industry

[inner iron]

Netherlands is a different breed and usually makes sense to go really heavy into an airforce

[harsh herald]

Then just land grab neighbors then join the axis then try to support the atlantic wall

[strong umbra]

ye but its all plains

you need an actual army

to defend

and UK has big airforce

[inner iron]

I conscript over 1 mil Indonesians to hold the line while I have full air supremacy

And bomb the Germans for around 100 ground attack per tick

[harsh herald]

I suggest grabbing the belgians to so you have access to the congo too

[inner iron]

The Netherlands becomes a major when it forms into Benelux in the democratic path

[strong umbra]

like half a major

[inner iron]

The congo has poor manpower pool, decent resources late game tho

[strong umbra]

but ok

benelux doesn't have manpower

[inner iron]

Benelux outscales the Italians when it's formed

[tight sluice]

If the Netherlands unifies the Low Countries, it can have 100 factories

[copper cobalt]

o.o

[strong umbra]

ye but capable Italy has more

im Italy in 1940 and have 100 more factories than germany

[copper cobalt]

How are you supposed to get nav supremacy as a minor in the new system

[inner iron]

You patrol

[strong umbra]

wait for the ai the retreat its fleet

[harsh herald]

Wait fr? I always found the benelux underwhelming

[strong umbra]

dont send ur fleet when their fleet is patrolling

you cant win the attrition war against UK

[copper cobalt]

I couldn't get past 27% dominance with the Danish fleet when the enemy didn't have their fleet in the region

[strong umbra]

then your fleet isnt big enough

[inner iron]

It's underwhelming because Germany hits a roadblock way too early and the game stalls

[copper cobalt]

wha

Too small to cross an empty sea?

[strong umbra]

if you're fleet is to small then you cant get supremacy

[copper cobalt]

wow

[inner iron]

It can but it builds up over time

You have to wait for it to scale

[copper cobalt]

ah

[strong umbra]

ye but by that time the ai send its fleet there

[copper cobalt]

It gets stuck at 27

Ig you're not supposed to play as any minor nations

[inner iron]

How many ships do you even have

Cause the Danish starting fleet won't cut it

[copper cobalt]

Waaa

[inner iron]

It's just 2 coastal defence garboleums

[tight sluice]

I only know how to play with submarines in the navy

[strong umbra]

navy aint that hard

[copper cobalt]

Omo well then how the hell am I supposed to form Scandinavia

[strong umbra]

its easier than army

[copper cobalt]

Play till 50s

[inner iron]

You don't know how to break Sweden?

[copper cobalt]

nooo

[strong umbra]

Just train 2 width and encircled and micro

[inner iron]

I usually successfully break past the straits with cas

[copper cobalt]

Wanted to form it early

[inner iron]

And oneshot Sweden

[tight sluice]

@copper cobaltIt's hard, no manpower

[harsh herald]

I think the issue with navy for the majority of players is usually how long to make capital ships

[copper cobalt]

lol barely have anything

[inner iron]

Denmark has good enough industry to build air

[strong umbra]

fair

[copper cobalt]

Wanted to overrun em by invading behind

[inner iron]

What the hell have you been building with your non existent manpower

[copper cobalt]

Ig I did it too early

[strong umbra]

mechanized Karl marx

[copper cobalt]

I had the men and the guns

[strong umbra]

most likely

[copper cobalt]

I didn't expect my guys would be too afraid to cross an empty sea

[harsh herald]

Artillery twin or marines if crossing the straits

[copper cobalt]

ig it's a restart

[inner iron]

I didn't expect you to still sit on the same ship count

[copper cobalt]

I didn't think I'll need it

[strong umbra]

you tryna get a achivement?

[harsh herald]

Can't you like bait them to occupy you then encircle them?

[copper cobalt]

The Swedes don't have any in the region

[copper cobalt]

yeh

[inner iron]

You always need a navy, atleast for late game

[copper cobalt]

It's not even 40

[strong umbra]

never heard of it
-hungary

[inner iron]

I played yesterday as China and actually managed to build a navy, shocking

[strong umbra]

well just peace japan and then its easy

[warped flint]

Sure man

sure

[humble spruce]

what is a realist year for achieved world conquest?

[inner iron]

I had 5 coastal defence ships with heavy batteries for shits and giggles and loads of light cruisers and torp destroyers

[harsh herald]

Roc decisive battle guy always defect which lwk piss me off

[rain loom]

im gonna try my first ahistorical game hooray

[strong umbra]

theyre not supposed to take Romania in historical

[inner iron]

Nah I clapped their navy

I played the long game

[strong umbra]

ah

[inner iron]

Cause I wanted to larp as scrap fleet China

[hollow silo]

thx very cool

[inner iron]

Build a navy out of Chinese starting tech

And see how it fares

Somehow it worked

[rain loom]

im scared of navy

and air

[strong umbra]

air aint hard

so is navy

[harsh herald]

I find the bss path for roc op that it tends to kill majority of IJA which makes para dropping easier then steal the fleet

[rain loom]

ik i just have a cool thing called skill issue

but ah well

[strong umbra]

ait especially

do u j
have by blood alone?

[rain loom]

ye

[inner iron]

My doctrine maxed out the torpedo attack on my scrap destroyers at 80 so you can imagine how Japan fared against that

[rain loom]

i have all dlc except south america and new one

[strong umbra]

Just buy subscriptipn tbh

way cheaper

[inner iron]

Lvl 1 destoyers with lvl 1 torps dishing out that amount of dmg is amusing

[harsh herald]

Torpedo primacy doctrine?

[warped flint]

stupid asf

so im just stuck now

[rain loom]

true but the benefits of being a teen is being unemployed

[inner iron]

Patrol boats and coastal defence

[strong umbra]

no?

[inner iron]

It nerfed my range hard but made my scrap navy tank hard

[strong umbra]

you need to have worked to get unemployment benefits

[warped flint]

how do I get these faction points thingys

[harsh herald]

Ask it to be your christmas gift is a valid strat

[rain loom]

phrased it wrong mb

[strong umbra]

dont have a skill issue

[rain loom]

sorry english is my 1st language

[strong umbra]

u german？

[rain loom]

no im brit

i have skill issue

[warped flint]

what?

[strong umbra]

so english is ur first language

[rain loom]

i said that

[harsh herald]

Do the objectives twin

[strong umbra]

Just cap the allies and axis as Italy by 1941

maybe soviet but thats risky

[warped flint]

im not italy???

[strong umbra]

hot take:very aggressive is best way to excuse battle plans

[strong umbra]

how many hours do u have?

[warped flint]

2.3k

[strong umbra]

and which country are u?

[warped flint]

Hungary

Communist

[strong umbra]

which one?

[warped flint]

I joined the comitern and theres some rule stopping me from declaring wars cause im not a major