hoi4-general

[fallow raven]

ban @worn hollow

[worn hollow]

shut up

LOL

boil

bros boiling

[terse lantern]

Nice

[worn hollow]

W

[worn hollow]

wanna do axis run or sm

[terse lantern]

Ew...

[worn hollow]

?

[terse lantern]

Terrible borders lol

[worn hollow]

bro

do u wanna do axis run?

[terse lantern]

That little chunk of Yugoslavia in the north

[terse lantern]

Nah I'm good thanks for asking tho

[worn hollow]

np

[terse lantern]

We are going in

[indigo elk]

How do I best spot enemy fleets and convoys?

[worn hollow]

patrol

u dont rlly need to spot them u js need a good navy and u should be ok

[indigo elk]

I'm Argentina. A good navy is relative lmao

[elder folio]

i've kinda been practising navy,
am i right keeping my main navy on strike force and only having light cruisers/destroyers on patrol?
i have my subs on convoy intercept 24/7

[worn hollow]

tuff

then js patrol if u want supremacy

[limpid coral]

hi

[worn hollow]

hi

[dusky burrow]

You can make a spotter cruiser ig

[limpid coral]

hiya

[worn hollow]

wanna do axis run

im germany'

[limpid coral]

im returning to the game so i suck

💔

[worn hollow]

oh

i can play only germany

everything else im terrible

[random vortex]

holy 1942 britain

[limpid coral]

i was gonna ask

is it hard to find good multiplayer matches
im hoping to play multiplayer when i get good at the game again

[worn hollow]

true

good idea honestly

[keen coral]

Is multilayer matches easy to find

[worn hollow]

not rlly

if ur looking for smth specific

[crude bronze]

why does my nuclear strike always cancel itself?

i tried playing as usa and tried to nuke germany but it cancelled itself after like 2 days of planning

[leaden wraith]

Lord of War ahh menu

[vagrant burrow]

I like to build patrols with one cruiser that has radar and destroyers with sonar

[tall sentinel]

Hearts of iron four players when their mom gives them a national focus to go take a shower

[desert echo]

...

What is shower?

[tall sentinel]

Poison

[desert echo]

Try showering at 3 a.m where you live in a mountainous area

Since my college + dorm is in high elevation region

I must do that all the time at 5 a.m

[lost hemlock]

who does my puppet think he is

[desert echo]

Damn

They always ask for it

[craggy trail]

[desert echo]

I don't know who's more foolish

Germany rejecting it

Or Hungary asking for it

[forest meadow]

bro wtf do you mean ''true union of britain''

[misty fossil]

true

[forest meadow]

that makes no sense

[misty fossil]

why not? factionalism always exists within political parties

it exists in the CCP and the vietnamese communist party

people always think they know how to run things better and that leads to political infighting

[dusty shard]

ye but if add less hard td's and add hospital things gonna be better

[misty fossil]

or civil wars in that case

[desert echo]

Give this man a true

[leaden wraith]

the two mongolian gigachads

[desert echo]

Tf 💀

How? Grinding the Japanese?

If that then it's normal

[leaden wraith]

well first of all a mod that unlocks getting every single trait with enough grinding

[vagrant burrow]

Sick dude

[desert echo]

...

Nvm then

[leaden wraith]

second of all

probably one of the most overkill divisions

[desert echo]

I don't think this is TNO

What mod is this

[vagrant burrow]

How can there be fkn 150 million casualties

[leaden wraith]

you are right it isnt

[desert echo]

HOLY F💀

Who tf plays for 32 year

[leaden wraith]

me apparently

[desert echo]

Best I could is 1952

[leaden wraith]

there's youtube videos about going for 1 BILLION casualties

[desert echo]

That's just extinction speedrun

[leaden wraith]

pretty much, yeah

[desert echo]

I believe the population explosion is around after the post WW2 era

I call it golden era

And then boomer fkass era

[vagrant burrow]

I don't think so much manpower exists in this game even if everybody scraped the barrel

[leaden wraith]

oh my god all of eurasia is in ruins

[desert echo]

China literally have 50 mil manpower

That's just extensive conscription

[vagrant burrow]

Dafuq

[desert echo]

Yeah

[leaden wraith]

im looking at mao right now, he has 67 million manpower at service by requirement

[desert echo]

China is just... China

[leaden wraith]

and thats after the casualties

[desert echo]

Don't be surprised

[leaden wraith]

oh, and the civilian casualties

[desert echo]

WTFFF

That's like 20% of 1 billion

[vagrant burrow]

Actually its 23,87% of one billion : D

[dusky burrow]

honestly that's not that good of a division

For support companies replace armored maintenance with hospitals and you'd be fine

[peak mason]

Looking to get a laptop.. I don’t one a expensive one just one for like relatively ok for games

[leaden wraith]

yeah but im trying to have fun, and 58% equipment capture ratio is fun as hell

[peak mason]

Any recommendations

[dusky burrow]

True

although with customizable equipment it's so meh

you just capture bad equipment

[leaden wraith]

i sell it to my allies and they say "good enough, better than just fists"

because their industry is absolutely demolished

look at moscow

[dusky burrow]

Oof

[gleaming raven]

I want to play this game for god sake

Can someone give me his acc

Pls

[valid prairie]

which mod makes the ai justify wars of their own?

[kind vale]

How do you see civilian casualties

[keen coral]

I think they already do

But i wish they do it more often over claimed and core lands tbh

[runic spoke]

woohoo i did it

[keen coral]

It'll be so fun late game

[valid prairie]

im just playing a mod where the ai doesnt justify much and i want more action yknow?

[lethal glen]

is it just me or has poland gotten harder to cap

[leaden wraith]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3319664808

[kind vale]

Oh its a mod

Ima put hirohito under house arrest

[leaden wraith]

yeah but its pretty cool

[crisp wyvern]

Spent 3 hours of my life trouble shooting with the files of the game because I accidentally messed up the setting.txt file just so I could add more fps into the game

reinstalled the game twice, verified the integrity of the times four times

[wintry swan]

It’s over for them

[crisp wyvern]

trouble shooted with mods because the game would crash and give me the map didn't load error

and after so long, I have the dog of doom and agony (missing game files)

and Germany doesn't have the option to create reichskommissariat or fix it's economy even if I do their focus

[wintry swan]

Why didn’t you just add an fps map

[crisp wyvern]

10/10 game

[wintry swan]

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

[crisp wyvern]

I did

But...

I needed more

More is never enough

[wintry swan]

Did you set all ur settings to low

[crisp wyvern]

I NEED TO SEE ZE TANKS GO BROOM BROOM AT 65 FPS

[wintry swan]

Dude

[crisp wyvern]

yes, everything at the lowest and even with fps mod, but past 1940 the game was almost unbearably slow to play, so did that, I mean it worked in the end

kinda stupid, yes

very

[random delta]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-group-chat-waiting-cereal-eating-cereal-dead-gif-25969021

[quick thistle]

Apparently paradox removed the request garrison support feature and put it in the faction menu but even if I put up the quota for manpower I can’t get anyone in the faction to put more than like 5 thousand men in there.

How do you get the manpower now?

[lost hemlock]

` manpower 100000

my asia has chicken pox

[safe sigil]

does sinkiang always basically die for you guys as well

when fighting khotan

or is my game just weird

[idle berry]

Is this worthy enough

[hushed loom]

Chat call me crazy
But ion think this is true

[errant remnant]

Now that i think about it i dont think i have ever had a HOI4 game that went to 1940+ without command cheats... man i suck ahhh at this game

[gaunt raven]

hello chat

[gaunt raven]

I have

[errant remnant]

doesnt help that the navy is EVEN MORE confusing now

[gaunt raven]

get another 200 hours

[idle berry]

that USED to be me but look at me now

[errant remnant]

i have 772 hours

[gaunt raven]

the navy is easy

[warm shuttle]

What is the best focus tree the USA?

[warped flint]

200 more hours and ill have 2.5k hours

[gaunt raven]

you can literally put tier 1 things on ships

just make sure that you balance them around correctly

[idle berry]

ok brother what nation u maiming

[errant remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-jerry-laughing-3amskypecall-gif-1225091949170588240

[hushed loom]

I have 27 hours
Is this good (great war)

[errant remnant]

I dont main nuthing LOL i just play whatever i feel like on the day

[hushed loom]

I capitulated the ottomans and liberated serbia by myself

[errant remnant]

Like one day im france the next im tanna tuva

[idle berry]

there’s ur problem

Find a nation

That u like

[gaunt raven]

I made a fleet of 72 ships, (3 cruiser carriers, 2 heavy battleships 1939, and 4 early battleships with two dreadnoughts, and a few cruiser escorts, a ton of destroyers) and then four or six 12-14 size submarine fleets

[idle berry]

It’s like

Raising a pet

[errant remnant]

I dont like any of them

[gaunt raven]

it beat the british navy

[idle berry]

uh

[errant remnant]

they get repetitive and boring

[gaunt raven]

without taking any losses

[idle berry]

wrong reply?

[gaunt raven]

probably

srry

[idle berry]

here

I’m gonna flex this

Every day

(right before I got 70 divs encircled accidentally but we ignore that)

[gaunt raven]

LOL

ngl thats pretty tuff

biggest encirclement I had was like 52 divs or sum like that

[idle berry]

I could’ve done more but my PC couldn’t breath so I just did human wave

[gaunt raven]

rip

low end pc?

or low-mid tier

[idle berry]

actually no

idek why

16gb ram

3050TI

[gaunt raven]

I’ve got a RTX 580 with a 16gb ram

weird

what driver do u use

[brittle cypress]

no way you have a 3050 ti and can't run this game

[vagrant burrow]

This is a CPU limited game. Graphics card has little to do with it

[lapis prairie]

rx 580 you mean

i had a 670

[kind vale]

Those poor Germans

[kind vale]

Why is there a random picture of Uzbekistan

[warped flint]

look at the shapes

think

[kind vale]

[leaden wraith]

there's no words to be said here, this is insanity

[kind vale]

Yeah keep killing the world population

[leaden wraith]

whole world is in ruins

[kind vale]

I swear to god if Germany can't push the soviets in the west while I do the east im going to nuke Afghanistan

[leaden wraith]

its not even me anymore, theyre nuking each other

[kind vale]

Nukes kill civilians?

[leaden wraith]

my tanks are just in my capital chilling

[leaden wraith]

in this mod yeah

[kind vale]

I might have to get that

Just to nuke the middle east

[leaden wraith]

it has civilian casualties, population migration, state-wide and nation-wide debuffs for state devastation

[kind vale]

Hell yeah

[leaden wraith]

its all the goodies in one mod

[warped flint]

bro can spain

not hold a line

[sage karma]

i'm trying to use console commands.

how to build a ship a fast using console commands

[hoary mortar]

WELP

[devout trench]

Instantconstruction

But this also affects ai

[tulip thorn]

Instant training also works

And effects the ai way less

[tulip thorn]

Just type "it"

[devout trench]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-sea-creature-sea-creature-cat-silly-silly-cat-gif-5111948485873411698

[haughty dirge]

Can anyone help me and @elfin edge with the game? were noobs and we beat soviet but are at war with uk and spain and we cant break through spain

[warped flint]

I heard germany took memel?

did that realy happen or no

[sage karma]

any command that doesn't affect AI?

[tulip thorn]

Nope

You could just type ai

and turn the ai off temporarily

[haughty dirge]

Can anyone help me and @elfin edge with the game? were noobs and we beat soviet but are at war with uk and spain and we cant break through spain

[lapis prairie]

I dont think they took memel

[warped flint]

Should this hold?

the line is fortifed

wtf

how bro

[gaunt raven]

probably

[haughty dirge]

Can anyone help me and @elfin edge with the game? were noobs and we beat soviet but are at war with uk and spain and we cant break through spain

[minor wasp]

if i puppet half a country and the other half i leave alone, would they exist as the original nation. so like if i puppet the uk mainland, but leave its atlantic/pacific holdings alone, do they still remain as the "free" independent uk.

[tulip thorn]

The puppet you make will get a random tag, while the real uk tag will exist where ever you left it

Meaning your puppet will have the generic focus tree and random leaders

[minor wasp]

will states like burma and malaya remain loyal to the real uk or the puppet?

[tulip thorn]

they will stay with the actual tag

[minor wasp]

alright thanks

[haughty dirge]

Can anyone help me and @elfin edge with the game? were noobs and we beat soviet but are at war with uk and spain and we cant break through spain

[split fulcrum]

you know you're cooked when mongolia is a major

[weary whale]

How

[lapis prairie]

1952

[weary whale]

Wow

[weary whale]

Is it verry laggy?

[lapis prairie]

ehh

not as much

as it was last time i got this far

[weary whale]

Okay

[lapis prairie]

still have the same army i did back in 1939

[warped flint]

who should I play

[weary whale]

Why does it look like fire rises

How do u do that

[warped flint]

i used a tno map mod

theres a fire rises map mod

[weary whale]

Okay

[valid prairie]

any mod that allows you to give the default focus tree to all nations?

[leaden wraith]

the entire northern hemisphere said "warlordism is back on the menu"

[strange stratus]

Can u grant medals to every infantry of any country?

[valid prairie]

yes

[strange stratus]

[spark patrol]

Can I win?

P.S.: I am Japan declaring war on all Allied nations. No mods of the original game and DLCs.

[warped flint]

im getting jumped

[slow crypt]

hungary so fun

[warped flint]

very

painfull

[slow crypt]

what side in focus tree

[warped flint]

I did militiary last time so I am doing fascist now

[slow crypt]

do monarchy...

[warped flint]

isnt that democractic?

[slow crypt]

nuh uh

[warped flint]

oh I thought that one forced you to

I have no army

its disintegrating

[slow crypt]

you fineeeeee

[warped flint]

HAHA

IDIOTS

[random delta]

now that I've formed Hispaniola i might try to naval invade Cuba and do the Antilles thingy

[snow rain]

Then don't forget a navy

[random delta]

im going to attempt to build one

[snow rain]

Cuba usually have no ships in which case a single boat should be enough

[random delta]

i dont know if I have a single boat😭

[snow rain]

Build one

[atomic carbon]

live love larp understanding navy repeat ❤️

[gaunt raven]

live love larp understanding navy repeat 🩷

[trim badge]

I finally found out why nonhistorical is a pain

The Great War: Redux

Oh, were you in the middle of a game?

Or does new game straight up not work

I played the Ottoman Empire for at least 3 hours so idk

[winged field]

Hungary has declared the war on Peru 🔥

[trim badge]

Even worse

For some reason, Monarchist Germany, with >50 divisions, decided to declare war on Venezuela. Which triggered the Monroe doctrine

And you know what's worse? A few years later when the CSA revived and joined the Central Powers, Germany declared war on Communist France, WHICH WAS IN THE COMINTERM

[random delta]

i honestly think formable nation decisions should give base war support bonuses

[winged field]

Sounds about right

[tidal copper]

Why is Afghanistan the way it is AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[brave steeple]

why is the hoi4 crash report crashing

[split fulcrum]

yea gang i think its ggs

[brave steeple]

MY SAVE NOW DOESNT HAVE GENERALS

it insta crashes

this is rigged

i jabe lost my save due to how buggy hoi4 is

ive somehow played more buggy games

im going back to playing suzerain again

[agile perch]

goodluck 😭

[honest night]

ffu2

[cobalt flame]

is No Step Back worth it?

[honest night]

From what I’ve heard it’s the most popular dlc

[proud tapir]

Absolutely

one of the two essential dlcs because of the tank designer

along with by blood alone for the plane designer

plus you get baltic and polish focus trees

which is very cool

[cobalt flame]

Thanks guys

[spring relic]

are 7/2 viable in current hoi4

[eternal palm]

Nah

Why does it keep coming back 😭

When do the youtubers learn about combat width 😭

[vague tree]

@calm obsidian

[vital peak]

Hey, new to the game here

wanna help me do operation Ichi go or smt

I have no idea what I'm doing

[spark patrol]

Enemy die 83m troop hahaha

[cosmic jay]

attezione

[sour nymph]

attention

[eternal palm]

clears throat

ACHTUNG

[sour nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-hearts-of-iron-4-looksmax-sigma-sigma-face-gif-232308269668432623

[eternal palm]

https://tenor.com/view/giant-fatass-bnuuy-bunny-bnuuy-rabbit-rabbit-whatever-gif-15720990188084548831

[honest night]

Like magma Europa and ww1 combined it’s mainly a mp mod but can be played in sp

[spring relic]

what are some good qol mods for hoi4

[eternal palm]

Wdym qol

Like performance?

[spring relic]

quality of life

like stuf that makes things easier to do

and yes performence

[meager widget]

finally

[spring relic]

congrats

now do britain

and poland is still there i see

[meager widget]

I did poland

britain i'm struggling to get naval supremacy cause I dont have enough navy

[brave steeple]

i hate when steam does this

(this is hoi4 btw)

[ripe slate]

Welcome, usually Id do naval invasions to open new fronts to overload the Chinese AI

[leaden wraith]

gemini is certainly one of the llms of all time

[gleaming raven]

guysss

plss

i want hoi4 acc

i want to play online

for god sakeee

[leaden wraith]

i have over 60 gigabytes worth of workshop mods, and i hate it when steam starts checking them

it takes like an hour or something

[brave steeple]

i fixed it via restarting pc

HOWEVER

[unique comet]

Then type in your email, and your password to said email

[brave steeple]

the game now can not load ANYTHING STILL

when i load a save and unpause

[leaden wraith]

you can just restart steam

[brave steeple]

it crashes

[brave steeple]

i did

i killed it with task manager

and did nothing

[gleaming raven]

guyssssss

plssss

[brave steeple]

are you asking for hoi4 or

[gleaming raven]

yeaah plsss

[brave steeple]

dont get it

[gleaming raven]

why

lol

[brave steeple]

the dlc is overpriced

the game is absurdly buggy

[gleaming raven]

yeah i cant alr

[brave steeple]

i know better games with better dlcs that are actually worth it

[gleaming raven]

no no i want itt

[brave steeple]

also im not gifitng hoi4

[forest meadow]

i was playing hungary, made austro hungary, socialist germany invades me, turns me into communist and turns me into transylvania 👍

[gleaming raven]

☹️

[brave steeple]

get it from (actually idk if i can say it )

there is this cheap way

like it isnt pirating

but its cheap

and legal

(i mean its not cheap)

but its legal

[gleaming raven]

i want to play onlineee

[eternal palm]

#alt-history-multiplayer

[brave steeple]

do you have hoi4

[gleaming raven]

not at all

[brave steeple]

i thought you were asking me to gift hoi4

i can not tell now

[eternal palm]

ICH WILL UNREAL TOURNAMENT SPIELEN

[gleaming raven]

okay give me hoi4 and i wil

[eternal palm]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mr-krabs-days-without-nonsense-gif-26130271

[gleaming raven]

iam

[eternal palm]

Crazy

[gleaming raven]

iam yeah

i wish i have one

thats it

[brave steeple]

i told you how

to get it

for like 7 quid

i could of prob just said it here

[sudden thistle]

Cdkeys?

[brave steeple]

yes

talked abotu it once

and mod told me to stop

[eternal palm]

Uh yea 💀

3rd party websites are still piracy

[brave steeple]

bit confused how but k

i mean its legal isnt it ?

piracy isnt exactly legal

(i mean people would disagree but im not gonna talk about the morals of piracy)

[eternal palm]

The key themselves yes, the way they got the keys aren't and at the least, paradox doesn't endorse then, hence it prohibits talking about it

[brave steeple]

yes

[eternal palm]

Since it is literally losing them money

[brave steeple]

its not piracy but some would consider it immoral

[eternal palm]

You're only "allowed" to buy keys for this game from sites that partner with paradox specifically

Company policy

Anything else is considered piracy

Legal or not

[brave steeple]

huh

i got the base game via steam

[heavy vigil]

hii sporty and creep

[brave steeple]

hi

[heavy vigil]

keys are fine youre just rebuying it no?

[brave steeple]

yea

thats what i asumed

same thing as buying a dvd from someone

[heavy vigil]

is it?

[eternal palm]

Well I got shot down for talking about MMOGA and instant gaming

[heavy vigil]

dont you own your copy once you buy it or is it considered s license

[eternal palm]

Which aren't partnered with pdx

[eternal palm]

That too

[eternal palm]

Ay ask your mod team

[paper echo]

i will NOT play chaos mod with events happening every day for all countries ever again 💀

[heavy vigil]

nah im asking you

[eternal palm]

For you yes, but idk how exactly they get the keys

[brave steeple]

i believe pdxs site

when they go on sale

[eternal palm]

All I know is that when I was on the ck3 dc I got muted for talking about 3rd party websites for steam keye

[eternal palm]

How would they possibly turn a profit 💀

[heavy vigil]

again it depends on whether you buy a license or if you buy a copy (download asset) of the game

[eternal palm]

That's not how that works

[heavy vigil]

if you buy a license then reselling is illegal

[brave steeple]

when they go on sale

[eternal palm]

Product key, so license

[heavy vigil]

if you buy a copy then its fine

[eternal palm]

Oh you sweet summer child

[brave steeple]

also other countries with dif prices

(tho i dont believe this happens often)

idk exactly

[paper echo]

will this brick my pc? yes
will it be worth it? also yes

[brave steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1314432842356228115/1434311705697058888/tenor.gif

[paper echo]

eu ahh map

[brave steeple]

more like ck3 map

but yea

[paper echo]

it will be worth the brick

[heavy vigil]

@eternal palm rare 74 barb https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/s/2E6ZcLzEO5

[eternal palm]

😭

[brave steeple]

also i dont believe keys even make pdx lose money anyway time to talk about hoi4

[brave steeple]

just saw the date

[eternal palm]

It's losses of potential earnings

[brave steeple]

once played till 1970s as Argentina in KX

i somehow lost 5 years of that save

and i still have it

but its like 1960s

[brave steeple]

debatable but i dont think we should debate

anyway

[eternal palm]

It literally is not?

[brave steeple]

also had huge navy

[eternal palm]

U don't know enough to debate anyhow

[brave steeple]

their steam sales literally put the game at 7 quid

at key site prices

[eternal palm]

Whatever u say man

🤦‍♂️

[brave steeple]

why does this actually seem rly easy

just turn on alt hist ai

(unless this is locked via dlc)

which would be stupid

but something pdx would 100% do

[heavy vigil]

it is

[brave steeple]

i have to asume its locked via dlc

[paper echo]

these types of achievements are usually not only with dlc

[brave steeple]

yes

however only reason why it would be so low

then again most people dont try to get every achievement

also just looked at hoi4 merch

not gonna get any

[leaden wraith]

i should get it

[stuck heart]

what are ur pc specs bruv

[eternal palm]

Toaster

[tiny tartan]

ExRussia type shit

[eternal palm]

Mod?

[trail gate]

oh my god lol

[gleaming raven]

where can i

[paper echo]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2449480038

[paper echo]

gtx 1050 ryzen 5 5600x and 32gb ddr4 ram

[paper echo]

peak reference

[eternal palm]

Ouch

Thats kinda old

[paper echo]

ik

[eternal palm]

Esp the graphics card holy

[paper echo]

i wanna change the gpu

[eternal palm]

The cpu is fine though

[meager widget]

your ram costs as much as your whole setup

💀

[paper echo]

i bought my ram 60 euros and now it costs 100 💀

man these ai shit

[tiny tartan]

"kinda old"
and then the specs are much better than my pc

[meager widget]

much more

[paper echo]

holy shi

[meager widget]

i got a 4060 ti and 16 gb ram

[paper echo]

nice

[meager widget]

16 gb a bit low tbh

on some games

spare me some ram

[paper echo]

good luck getting ram these days

[meager widget]

yeah and it's ddr5 too

am absolutely done for

[paper echo]

fr

BRO

[void bramble]

wait so the newest dlc was japan and china right?

[paper echo]

yeah

[void bramble]

I havent played in a while

ok

[paper echo]

philipines too

good dlc but not worth the price

[void bramble]

oo

[void bramble]

(Im not paying)

Im gonna give em a go, also whats this coal and power stuff I saw

just booted up

[paper echo]

i hate coal

and i hate the new naval invasion thing

where the time depends on the active naval invasion missions

[void bramble]

uh oh

so what does power/coal do?

[brave steeple]

you need it for factories

[void bramble]

both? Damm

[paper echo]

coal gives energy

[brave steeple]

idk EXACTLY how coal works exactly

[paper echo]

and if you dont have enough it reduces factory efficiency

[brave steeple]

but

you need it

[void bramble]

this is hurting my brain

lol

[brave steeple]

its not complicated tbh

check fi you have enough coal

if you do

good

if not

bad

[void bramble]

so whats the power for then? what happens if you dont have enough?

[brave steeple]

you get power (i believe) via coal

if you dont have enough

#hoi4-general message

[void bramble]

ah if you dont have enough "power" it reduced efficency?

[brave steeple]

yes

you get power via coal

(also i bel;ieve hydro p[lants )

[void bramble]

ahhh now I get it, thought you meant coal reduced efficency if you dont have enough

[brave steeple]

two new buildings aswell

[gray yarrow]

i just wasted 10 hours of my life for some funny pixels is anyone proud of me

[brave steeple]

this is without the dlc

[brave steeple]

actually

i am not sure if this is base game

or eaw

so the buildings idk for sure

[paper echo]

non dlc doesnt have coal?

[split fulcrum]

It foes

Does

[paper echo]

with dlc

[brave steeple]

non dlc has the coal

[lethal ether]

the time has always sucked, it does not take 40+ days to plan a naval invasion

[brave steeple]

i mean for huge 100 divs it would

but yea

absurdly long

[blissful sun]

i lost to switzerland as italy

[brave steeple]

however id asume 'balance'

[brave steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/war-of-the-worlds-ice-cube-shocked-noway-mind-blown-gif-704026511076715367

[paper echo]

it didnt suck back then cuz you could spam 2 unit naval invasions

[brave steeple]

first nation i ever played

was france

[split fulcrum]

dude imagine if it didnt take 40 days

[brave steeple]

i died to germany

[blissful sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1447639570672914584/1447643344938471556/attachment.gif

[split fulcrum]

fellas finna be hopping around everywhere

[brave steeple]

didnt even do that bad of a job

[blissful sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1260249598639734955/1447630380806181125/attachment.gif

[brave steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1314432842356228115/1434311705697058888/tenor.gif

[lethal ether]

for the allies it would make sense, but for germany who barely has a navy…

[blissful sun]

the earth will be fascist

just trust the process

[brave steeple]

get the spy dlc

[lethal ether]

best strategy

[blissful sun]

💯

[void bramble]

How are the Alt Japan paths now?

any good?

[wet torrent]

communist one is busted

[atomic grove]

does couping also make the country ur puppet or does it only change the government?

[void bramble]

holy this focus tree looks complicated lol

[paper echo]

NOT AGAIN

[atomic grove]

i wonder how chaotic the all provinces independent mod would be with the chaos mod

[paper echo]

i had that idea

but i scrapped it

[atomic grove]

not surprising

it would very much be hell

also do all of them have the generic focus tree?

[vagrant burrow]

If I add a recon camera to my fighters and cas planes do they passively gather information?

Or does a recon camera only work if the wing is set to scouting?

[atomic grove]

why would u need recon planes

r u playing great war redux

[vagrant burrow]

No, I don't want extra recon planes. That's why I wonder if just the camera does anything.

Can't put full weapons on most planes anyway with 1 engine

[green plume]

when does a good germany usually cap a good USSR player

[atomic grove]

oh

anyways u need to put them on scouting to do scouting

yeah quite surprising

[elder lion]

🫃

[paper echo]

but i did play chaos mod and events were happening everyday for ALL countries

[vagrant burrow]

Damn, I really hoped it could work passively. Definitely won't build another plane type just for recon

[zinc light]

Sometime around 38

[vagrant burrow]

For naval, if some ships have floatplane catapults does it work like scout planes but passively?

[atomic grove]

germany ai or mp?

[green plume]

mp

both good players

[atomic grove]

not quite

[grizzled zenith]

Hungary's done

[atomic grove]

if ships have floatplane catapults, they get better at detecting ships when on patrol

[spring relic]

is there a fronline mod

[atomic grove]

but it doesnt let u see every ship in the sea region

[spring relic]

i cant see my frontline ever since the new update

[green plume]

i can see mine

[heavy vigil]

1941

in mp

in sp probably like 40

[green plume]

fr? even with stalin line?

[vagrant burrow]

What if I put 1 scout wing per carrier. Would that help a lot or be dumb?

[heavy vigil]

no one does stalin line anymore

[green plume]

rivers quite difficult to push with heavy TDs

[atomic grove]

1 plane on a carrier is basically nothing

[heavy vigil]

its easy to get terrain buffs so rivers are useless

[atomic grove]

why would u need scout planes on carriers anyway

[green plume]

how so?

[heavy vigil]

amphtracs if allowed as well, pioneers, assault engineers

[green plume]

like running marines?

[atomic grove]

i usually just spam good naval bombers on carriers

[vagrant burrow]

No, I mean 1 of 6 wings of the carrier being scouts

[heavy vigil]

no need

[atomic grove]

it wouldnt help that much

[green plume]

that brings another question amphtracs or mechs

on heavy tds

[heavy vigil]

amphtracs are always better

[green plume]

bet

[zinc light]

Arent amtracs + marines in the same div considered Space Marines, thus banned?

[heavy vigil]

you get special forces buff on the div

[grizzled zenith]

Amtracks are better but they are limited by special forces cap I think?

[heavy vigil]

?

[atomic grove]

unless u have more ships to support the attack if they detect

[green plume]

yes

[heavy vigil]

no amphtracs arent rven tanks

[spring relic]

oop nevermind it was bc of a mod

[heavy vigil]

theyre like mech

[vagrant burrow]

I just want to figure out a way to get better recon without having to micro manage it

[heavy vigil]

you also dont put them in marines

[lilac glen]

I still don't understand how to build divisions after watching a dozen videos

[heavy vigil]

just in tank divs

[lilac glen]

[atomic grove]

but theyll probably retreat faster than u can kill the ships

[zinc light]

But they do have armor?

[spring relic]

higher org better

[green plume]

i believe so

[atomic grove]

u dont need better recon

[green plume]

a lil

[heavy vigil]

they have maybe like 10 armor who cares

[atomic grove]

all u need is

cruisers with a lot of floatplane catapults

[grizzled zenith]

Just use 9 inf(18width) with support artillery, engineers and support anti air for 90% of the time and then think about tanks and special forces as shock troopers

[atomic grove]

and dont make them engage or fight

let ur attack ships do the work

[lament herald]

chad spy?

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah

[vagrant burrow]

Okay, I always add 1 floatplane catapult and radar to cruisers anyway

[spring relic]

anyone got a good light cruiser template for killing big navies

[zinc light]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[atomic grove]

why not make everything floatplane catapults and radar

they arent supposed to fight anyway

[vagrant burrow]

I'm new and just stuck with destroyers with sonar, torpedoes and depth charges

And cruisers with radar, floatplane and light attack

Afar from carriers and a submarine raiding fleet

[green plume]

can u even put pioneers on tanks?

[vagrant burrow]

Assault or mechanized engineers are nicy

[atomic grove]

i dont think u need to learn navy that early

u should focus on the basics still imo

[vagrant burrow]

I played Italy until I conquered the world so I had to at least develop a basic setup that worked

[atomic grove]

once u have a moderate understanding of many things, u can focus on it

[vagrant burrow]

So far I got the main principles. That's why I'm looking for little optimizations

[atomic grove]

alright

[heavy vigil]

yeah

[green plume]

i cant find it in support companies

when i enable em

(in the tank temp)

[atomic grove]

u need to get the first marine doctrine upgrade

[green plume]

i did

maxed it out

[atomic grove]

switch engi

[green plume]

there is no engi

[blissful sun]

how long did it take y'all to learn the basics and understand how to play hoi4 properly

[heavy vigil]

do you have assault engi?

[green plume]

idk im 1200 hours in and im still learning

[green plume]

yes

[heavy vigil]

you can only have 1 type of engineer

so no assault

[green plume]

do i replace those for pioneers?

[heavy vigil]

pioneer is an engineer type

[green plume]

is that BIS?

[heavy vigil]

if you want amphib/i think river buff

[green plume]

for heavy tds*

[heavy vigil]

not that it matters too much

youre just arguing about the stalin line being some unbreakable powerful line

its really like not unless germany has bad stats

[green plume]

no im not?

im arguing that rivers are hard af to push

with heavy tds

[frank zodiac]

What do you think?

[heavy vigil]

germany PRE dlc would get 6K attack each

now its more

[last cave]

Dam

[vagrant burrow]

Maybe 50 hours. At 200 i feel like I know most stuff

[green plume]

winning but

[atomic stratus]

ayo people, a friend of mine (I've not played since the new DLC came out) has problems with ships, saying they don't cover more distant regions even though he controls ports these. he also doesn't know much English so I'm asking this for him.

any solutions?

[split fulcrum]

woah

[viscid stirrup]

Hey guys

[atomic grove]

looks ai

[viscid stirrup]

Does anyone here know how to use discord?

Let me know

[split fulcrum]

It is ai

Look at the borders

[frank zodiac]

It is

[atomic grove]

yeah ik

looked suspicious

[viscid stirrup]

Stop using AI generated slop

[vagrant burrow]

New naval system requires small patrol fleets and an additional strike force to reliably dominate a bigger area. Also set home port to automatic to avoid ships not reaching areas

[viscid stirrup]

IM TELLING YOU AI IS DESTROYING THE ENVIRONMENT

[split fulcrum]

Wait @frank zodiac is that an independent kurdistan???

[atomic stratus]

set home port, how does one do that?

[viscid stirrup]

EVERY QUERY CONSUMES 1/15TH OF A TEESPOON OF WATER

[split fulcrum]

I thought that was kurdistan...

[frank zodiac]

fascist Iraq 🫢

[atomic grove]

nah, i believe its making people less innovative and overall lazier

[viscid stirrup]

That too

[split fulcrum]

Nevermind someone won the war between armenia and azerbaijan

[viscid stirrup]

I hate the AI slop

I hate it

I despise it with every fiber of my body

[split fulcrum]

What if i didnt let you know?

[heavy vigil]

piss color is always ai

[atomic grove]

no i just saw greater armenia there

[vagrant burrow]

When selecting the fleet there's the home port shown below the admiral. The gear icon next to it can be set to automatically choose the home port

[split fulcrum]

Why is palestine divided like that?

[atomic grove]

and iraq looked a little too circley

[paper echo]

getting bigger

[frank zodiac]

I am currently working on a focus tree project in Iraq Great War I.

[atomic stratus]

thanks friend

[molten pasture]

A save in that mod is about 600 megabytes btw

[paper echo]

i can deal with that

oh well

it will get smaller

ill delete them once the run is over

[molten pasture]

Only mod where saves get smaller as time goes on

[paper echo]

fr

[atomic grove]

the save being like 4 times the size of an average tno save is crazy

[paper echo]

lol

uniting russia in that mod would be so good

[ivory hull]

what is that flag

[slim nexus]

Wow what mod

[paper echo]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2449480038

[paper echo]

lower austrian flag

[slim nexus]

Is it independet on map or do u have to release all with cheats

[paper echo]

on map

[ivory hull]

thanks, does the mod add focus trees?

[molten pasture]

no

[split fulcrum]

dude imagine if it did

[molten pasture]

everyone generic

[green plume]

are assault engis still better than pioneers on heavy tds for russian invasion or nah

[split fulcrum]

a focus tree for each state

[ivory hull]

just use generic tree expanded mod

[paper echo]

no but countries have formables

[paper echo]

thats what i did

[ivory hull]

best mod

[molten pasture]

You'd end up rivaling Rise of Nations in number of focuses

[paper echo]

regional formables

[ivory hull]

no south german confederation?

[paper echo]

idk

when i do austria im gonna see if there will be more

[ivory hull]

ok thanks

[molten pasture]

Once you do one formable it shows the next, weirdly unneccesary (and it's easier to not do that)

[slim nexus]

The middle?

[ivory hull]

left one

[ivory hull]

kinda makes sense but weird

[paper echo]

1st one

[slim nexus]

Sahara states must be garbage huh

[paper echo]

pretty much

[ivory hull]

you can spawn in like 20 factories

[green plume]

bro i swapped between armored and pioneer company on heavy tds and from assault engi to either one of them it went from -60 attack on river to only -15

(and i had mechs swapped to amtracs

[junior imp]

https://tenor.com/view/vietnam-good-morning-vietnam-robin-williams-gif-5379373

[viscid stirrup]

thanks

[paper echo]

peak

[junior imp]

Crime to my eyes

I hate this map setting

[viscid stirrup]

for slopping by

[viscid stirrup]

IS THAT A TNO REFERENCE????

[paper echo]

cuz of the map?

[rare crow]

Oh it's beautiful

[paper echo]

thats more beautiful

[viscid stirrup]

holy no

[paper echo]

holy yes*

[viscid stirrup]

is that a TNO reference???

[paper echo]

yeah

[vagrant burrow]

How to start with a map this fractured? I expect it to be fun to see factions and empires emerge

[paper echo]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2449480038 its that mod

also it wont be fun for your pc

[vagrant burrow]

Thank you. I think the 7800x3d can handle it

[paper echo]

it will

[viscid stirrup]

the only thing thats beautiful is you miraculously having 60 fps

[paper echo]

it was paused

[paper echo]

alr bet

[patent thistle]

WHERE? I DONT EVEN HAVE HOI4 OPEN-

[junior imp]

Goatedplier

[junior imp]

HOI4 is in your mind

[proud sparrow]

that's what you think

[junior imp]

Its the most open when its NOT open

[sudden thistle]

Just search manually

Turn of ur pc?

[junior imp]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-it-gif-18812641

[patent thistle]

that did the job

i am guessing that my Laptop just still registered it cause i closed it over steam

[grizzled yarrow]

quite a speedrun

[craggy trail]

Both are from basegame buildings

[brave steeple]

k

[craggy trail]

Non-DLC still has them

[paper echo]

oh ok

[viscid stirrup]

dlc...

so expensive

i hate it when mp sweats pour hate on me for not knowing basic mechanics like spying

like bro i dont have the dlc

[gleaming raven]

I GOOOOOOOOOOT ITTTTTTTTTTTTTT

YALA BENAAAAAA

[craggy trail]

I have my Anon filly at a7 points to attack

[desert cradle]

A y1 wanna play?

[craggy trail]

What DLCs don't you have yet?

[viscid stirrup]

every dlc expect no step back and man the guns(jimarkus my beloved)

[craggy trail]

Hmm, probably go for Arms against Tyranny or By Blood Alone

[viscid stirrup]

go to the looking for MP voice chat

[desert cradle]

Hmm

Cant rly

Rn

[viscid stirrup]

im broke

i didnt even buy the dlc, jimarkus gifted it to me

[desert cradle]

Guide for germany worldconquest:

1. Give all of the world to auatria
2. Do anschluss
3. Congrats

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/moon-jellyfish-world-jellyfish-day-underwater-common-jellyfish-moon-jelly-gif-18709922

[desert cradle]

If anyone is intrested

[viscid stirrup]

stop stalking me

[craggy trail]

[viscid stirrup]

this is cheating bro.

[sudden thistle]

Man the guns is free…

[viscid stirrup]

yes

so is poland dlc

[sudden thistle]

Then it’s not a dlc

If it’s part of the main game

[brittle cypress]

But you can choose to uninstall it

And it’s in the dlc section

Perchance

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/derpy-derpy-hooves-mlp-my-little-pony-clap-gif-15401120

[woven bear]

gra jakiś polak?

[fringe shell]

bro i can do molotov-ribbentrop pact but i cant do anschluss\

[viscid stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/timmytoughknuckles-gif-17877644769817608506

[viscid stirrup]

why are the eyes looking at different directions😭💀

[craggy trail]

That's just derpy
https://mlp.fandom.com/wiki/Derpy

[safe wing]

Getting back into hoi4 as the German Empire I would like some advice for the focuses

Primarily with these 2 questions
Tanks or infantry
MEFO or PEG

[fringe shell]

https://tenor.com/view/thug-shaker-thug-hunter-thug-hunters-thugger-thuggin-gif-25386960

[haughty bison]

for economy depends on when you want to start the war
mefo force you to war early to achieve ataturky
peg is much slower and force you to start slower

[safe wing]

1940 is my plan

[knotty vortex]

anybody able to teach me how to play?

game seems really interesting but i cannot figure it out

[haughty bison]

40s which war? ww2 in general or poland invasion?

[safe wing]

Poland might be allied to me

Via the see to the eastern front focus branch

[umbral agate]

should i use free trade as sovs?

[haughty bison]

i personaly take peg and in the late 40s i should had build a insdustry powerfull enough to fight the soviet

[safe wing]

Thanks

[haughty bison]

i ignore the allies XD

until i get ussr stuff

[haughty bison]

remeber that you can build civ till 39 maybe late 38 and have the entire year before 40s or the war time on mill production

[knotty vortex]

anybody?

[haughty bison]

just leave a 1 year 1year+ gap where your producing mills + docks if you want to build navy

[haughty bison]

ask in #ask-for-help-here maybe?

[knotty vortex]

ah thanks lol

[haughty bison]

your question is to broad of one XD

[heavy vigil]

whaat

civs until 39?????

no MIC no production efficiency

[haughty bison]

i start a late war :p

[heavy vigil]

even then its just badd

normally civs pay off their MIC in 4 years

for germany its like 6

[heavy vigil]

like they have to make mils that have to produce equipment

[haughty bison]

i didnt about that i just see factory number go up and i am happy

didnt know*

[heavy vigil]

you get more equipment 6 years later

i mean its fine if youre cold war building

[meager widget]

@distant otter

it works

your right

👍

[haughty bison]

huh never noticed a problem tbh just finished conq the ussr in my current game doing that
so i need to start mil building earlier?

[heavy vigil]

i mean youre not noticing issues because vanilla ai sucks

[haughty bison]

huh that make sense ig

[heavy vigil]

and also germany is super OP

[haughty bison]

so what should i do start mil production early? like 38?

like is 50 civs enough in general before i switch?

[molten pasture]

You can kinda hope for the french industry but it's very much a gamble

[upbeat burrow]

Yeah was about to say that this amount of HP and org may be too low, but the breakthrough and soft attack is good so

[remote quarry]

to maximize your production at barb you probably don't want to build beyond 37

altho this choices does not have a very large impact at your barb ic

more is related to if you did collabs correctly

[paper echo]

greater german reich ahhh country

[frank estuary]

How can my ships not pass through? Turkey is my puppet.

[junior imp]

Berlin we have arrived, your liberators!

[heavy vigil]

wdym you get that anyway

[molten pasture]

Yeah but you hope for french mills to carry you out of the civ greed

[junior imp]

what even is happening

Germany is spamming a lot of men

[heavy vigil]

insane

[junior imp]

1.6 Million to 600k how good?