hoi4-general

[silk furnace]

js rush b

cut em in half and its easy

[junior imp]

And get removed

With what units gng

[silk furnace]

the 13 that u get

or that stays with u

[junior imp]

Rush cps

ez

[silk furnace]

put the landsturmregiment on a diff frontline

[junior imp]

I already do that

[silk furnace]

and with the proper divs js cut them in half

[junior imp]

But cutting them half would overextend them would it not

[silk furnace]

no

[junior imp]

South Germany and blah blah,

[silk furnace]

and u clean up with good divs, hold north and then push

[junior imp]

Good idea

[slim nexus]

if the ai didnt protect like crazy i would be able to cut them in half and get bavaria, but no, they spam attacks and push me

[sudden thistle]

It’s not that hard 😭

[silk furnace]

ikr

[junior imp]

Happens

you gotta attack first

I'd say cut bavaria kill them rush berlin from north

encircle what ever you see

and rush silesia

[silk furnace]

js tell him what i told you

[junior imp]

Or cut them in half by rushing B

hold north

and evaporate

them

[slim nexus]

im gonna remove my army, do civil war and them train some cavalry

[junior imp]

DON'T do that

Cavalry absolutelly sucks

and you barely get equipment

I wish we could still just send lend lease to spain

but we can't no more

[hard grove]

Do I get the achievement if I bomb Tierra del Fuego with a thermonuclear

[junior imp]

I think you do?

Not sure

[hard grove]

I am trying right now

[junior imp]

check it in wiki or achievements

[hard grove]

Gonna let you know

[lilac glen]

Bruh

[junior imp]

Did you

[lilac glen]

I noticed

Idk where it came from

[junior imp]

really think you could do that

You should just kill Yugoslavia

big benefit

more tungsten

[lilac glen]

That mf is literally in the Axis

[junior imp]

easy access to budapest

[junior imp]

kick him or

do the focuses

and annex them

[slim nexus]

istg playing as a minor is easier to conquer a major than do that as a major

[junior imp]

yes

I can conquer USSR as poland in unhisto but not Germany

both unhistorical and historical

[outer tide]

is it just me or does he looks a bit familiar

[slim nexus]

i cangt believe i lost THE FRICKING WAR AGAIN

[junior imp]

What did you do

this time

Cavalry?

[slim nexus]

no

[patent thistle]

welcome to operation SURVIVE.

[slim nexus]

istg gotterdammerung just made it worse, like in vanilla it was very doable, now with max effort i cant even reach berlin

[grizzled yarrow]

wth happened to my resources

[junior imp]

Yeah

[grizzled yarrow]

oh wait nvm free trade

[junior imp]

Prob trades or bombing

[slim nexus]

im doing vanilla im tired of gotterdammerung, gonna use it when im playing hist germany

[bright arrow]

Vanilla is the same as Götterdämmerung for historical

[dusky burrow]

maybe a bit of bombing

[grizzled yarrow]

nah it was free trade

[mental mantle]

Whats the best template for attacking egypt and sudan while playing as italy

[bright arrow]

I don't think templates matter in that area of the world, usually the UK sucks at defending Egypt

Just encircle them near your port, and then rush to Alexandria and Cairo

[dusky burrow]

32-width mountaineers

also yeah you can do that

[paper echo]

perfection (and expensive)

[bright arrow]

The UK usually has almost no divs defending Cairo and theres no point in doing a Safari run

[royal hound]

Is the faction system anything the developers plan on fixing or looking into?

[craggy trail]

As far as I know, coal is the major focus they are working to "balance"

[mental mantle]

Thank you

[craggy trail]

Their recent patch added new powerline buildings aimed to reduce energy consumption

[heavy vigil]

reddit tank jumpscare

[mental mantle]

I want more buildings ngl
It’s just factories and refineries

[broken sky]

bulgaria mech wall

🥵

[royal hound]

So they’re not looking to fix the factions system

[mental mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/weekend-gif-20706398

[dusky burrow]

i mean river crossing and low supply oof

oh but the base attack lmao

[heavy vigil]

no fuel so its lower

[dusky burrow]

also why is the combat width 52

Oh right

[broken sky]

no need for fuel

simply use the available men to push the tanks to the frontline

[silk furnace]

js do 99 width

[broken sky]

👍

[heavy vigil]

max in vanilla is 75

[silk furnace]

damn

[broken sky]

bulgar...

tatar...

[outer tide]

might of found a loop hole how to win the border conflict before even getting yanan

[broken sky]

Mongolia and Mengjiang is therefore ignored once again in the Asian update

embargoed from getting an update...

...

[bright arrow]

You expecting a new focus tree from a patch?

[junior imp]

Thats funny.

[broken sky]

Nope

Expectations are often disappointing and unnecessary

I am simply waiting for my beloved Mongolia update

😌

[junior imp]

never gng

[bright arrow]

Mongolia would be a good option for a focus tree, but paradox will probably do Central America first

[vernal river]

why does the AI not try to focus all its forces on defending core territories when they're at the brink of capitulation?

[junior imp]

Its AI

Its dumb

[vernal river]

yea well it can't be an impeccable feat to have the wehrmacht maybe take its half a million men sitting in finland starving to death back to defend berlin

[junior imp]

Can be naval superiorty or sum idk its AI its dumb

[vernal river]

funny enough thats the one thing germany does have right now

[junior imp]

It can be goofy sometimes

[vernal river]

"trust me bro we gotta hold hungary and karelia forget about berlin"

i get the ai doesnt exactly know how to manage frontlines like that

but damn

[junior imp]

It does have to do a lot of things at once

but yeah

Holy shit what are those amounts of units bro

[vernal river]

mine?

[junior imp]

All on the screenshot

I'm gonna go blind

[vernal river]

turned fow off for the sake of demonstration

[junior imp]

Masallah

[vernal river]

but i made like a shitload of cheap 10/0 divs

[junior imp]

Real life soviets

[vernal river]

last time i played ussr i screwed up really bad

[junior imp]

Last time I tried to get

No Step Back

suceeded took me 2 or 1 day

[vernal river]

managed to hold them off at stalin line but allies beat them before i had strength to counterattack

[junior imp]

but poland almost ruined it

My puppet poland

[ancient marsh]

i dont make more than 1 1/2 armies for sov

[junior imp]

declared war while being a puppet

Somehow

Got invaded at denmark speeds

[ancient marsh]

nsb is very easy if you use flametanks

[sand heath]

hey guys

i have a question

[vernal river]

so i went like alot more overboard than i thought i needed to. i build 3 full army groups of infantry, had two on the borders, one on the stalin line just in case

[junior imp]

I managed to build bunkers way before and

[junior imp]

did a frontline

[sand heath]

how do i invade britain?

[junior imp]

I didn't have flametanks

[ancient marsh]

dont crop screenshots if you want good help

[junior imp]

Wait for the ships to randomly dissapear

[ancient marsh]

also zoom in more

[vernal river]

i had almost 4 million men by the time the invasion started

[ancient marsh]

to like english channel

[junior imp]

Britain is easy you just need to get them before 41 or 42

or they spawm a lot in homeland britain

[vernal river]

also i had no idea how easy it is to steamroll the luftwaffe if you just devote a good amount of factories early on to fighters

[sand heath]

what do i do?

[vernal river]

uh

assign your factories

[junior imp]

He said zoom in not out

[vernal river]

get more manpower

[junior imp]

Just wait till the AI randomly decides to make it ships go to the backrooms

And naval invade the second they do that

[ancient marsh]

holy resolution

[sand heath]

no but how do i send troops overseas?

[ancient marsh]

naval invasion order

assign it to specific divisions

[sand heath]

how to do that?

[ancient marsh]

its got an anchor icon

[sand heath]

ok

[ancient marsh]

select a division or divisions and youll see it

[vernal river]

select your divisions, then click anchor icon thats labeled "naval invasion"

[ancient marsh]

assuming you dont have 2nd tech for landing you can do 2 invasions of 6

[ancient marsh]

i recommend landing with your tanks

[junior imp]

Hell nah

[vernal river]

also make sure you have like a shitload of planes you're gonna need them

[ancient marsh]

if your tanks are good you'll crush them regardless of the malus

[junior imp]

Only do that for empty tiles

[junior imp]

Naval invasions can be deflected

if you use tanks

that are not too good

[ancient marsh]

your tanks should be at least ok

as germany

even if the design is kinda butt you get a lot of bonuses

[vernal river]

lore accurate red army?

[junior imp]

Yes

[ancient marsh]

6k battalions against ai

[north spoke]

Too good.

[ancient marsh]

overkill

[vernal river]

brother i had ptsd from my last ussr run

i was not losing this time

i counted 4 total provinces that i lost before the AI stopped pouring troops into the meatgrinder

[junior imp]

Gng how did we get the abillity to change laws as USA democracy I forgor

[vernal river]

the giant wakes

[junior imp]

I thought it was getting rid of great depression

didn't work

[vernal river]

you gotta get war support

[junior imp]

oh

Thanks

[vernal river]

use attaches

if you save up and send an attache to china i think you can get it like super early

[junior imp]

Alr thanks

[vernal river]

476 of stalin's glorious legions

[junior imp]

456 defense ❤️

Totally needed

They all starve on the frontlines

[vernal river]

nuh uh

[north spoke]

Lore accurate red army circa 1942

[junior imp]

Feeding soviet troops is illegal

[north spoke]

Lore inacurate losses

[vernal river]

yea i beat the living shit out of germany

[north spoke]

And continued to beat the dead shit out apparently

[junior imp]

Gng how is this design?

I'm preparing to bomb the shit out of germany and italy

[vernal river]

more bomb bay

[north spoke]

Needs more bombs

[junior imp]

Weight limit

[paper echo]

what did khotan ma do

[vernal river]

i just wait til 1940 then mass produce 6x engine III bombers as USA

[north spoke]

Don't care. Defy the laws of physics

[heavy vigil]

why 1940

you can get that earlier

[vernal river]

because im researching other shit

like boats

[sand heath]

uhm guys

how to get rid of their domiance?

dominance*

[junior imp]

You don't

[vernal river]

million dollar question

[junior imp]

its britain

Hope to god

they do a miscalculation

[sand heath]

wtf am i suppose to do 😭

[ancient marsh]

air

[junior imp]

and move their navy

[north spoke]

They genuinely castrated Germany in the new update

[vernal river]

you pray

[wicked haven]

Did you build a navy

[ancient marsh]

is it actually harder

i havent played ger this new patch

[sand heath]

idk how to build a navy

should i try invading ussr?

[north spoke]

Downright impossible as Germany

[ancient marsh]

just finish what you start with and build decent subs

[wicked haven]

Watch bittersteel naval guide or something similar

[junior imp]

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

[wicked haven]

Thy changed naval a lot this dlc

[vernal river]

gruh

[junior imp]

Its hopeless

[junior imp]

I love air

[ancient marsh]

dont bothre building a big navy as germany bro

you have air

air is the best thing in the game

[wicked haven]

You need enough to get sup

[vernal river]

literally never sleeping on air again after this

[north spoke]

Gruh 🔥 🔥 🤑

[junior imp]

I love soloing major countries that I couldn't solo as other majors as poland

[ancient marsh]

air can fight on air land and water

[junior imp]

Is Poland goated?

Yes it is

[vernal river]

germany feels alot harder than it used to be

[junior imp]

I love Poland

[north spoke]

How TF you sleep on air?

[junior imp]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-love-poland-gif-10918710646251769391

[north spoke]

You supposed to sleep on bed

[junior imp]

Magic

Soviets don't get beds

[sand heath]

can i try invading ireland?

[vernal river]

well i mean i wouldnt sleep on it but like i would be more concerned with having a large enough army than air

[north spoke]

Your army is gonna die without air

[junior imp]

It won't work

[vernal river]

dw i love building like 5000 B-36 peacemakers as USA to glass europe

[north spoke]

Humans need oxygen

[ancient marsh]

sov is legit just a casualty farm sim

[jolly flower]

I don’t know what I expected when I joined this discord but it wasn’t me being asked to join a multiplayer game undercover acting as a woman 😭

[junior imp]

They are still blocked by British navy

[sand heath]

why?

🙁

[junior imp]

Still british navy

[ancient marsh]

like they just take millions of casualties in a year

[sand heath]

cant i negotiate with the british or smth

[junior imp]

and your men can't float from Ireland to britain

no

[jolly flower]

I beg to differ

[vernal river]

yes i learned that the hard way when i played the soviets the first time. thats why i put 20 factories on planes asap when i started the game

[sand heath]

i dont want to fight britain 😭 🙏

[jolly flower]

It is?

[junior imp]

Too late

The AI does not give a shit

[north spoke]

Air factory 🔥 🔥

[sand heath]

what happens if i just

[junior imp]

Pray to god britain moves their navy

[sand heath]

leave them alone?

[wicked haven]

You need naval dominance either way. You need scout cruisers to patrol the water and then a fleet on strike force to destroy the enemy ships with air support

[junior imp]

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

[junior imp]

They get stronger

[north spoke]

Yes. Unless you are the separatists with a droid army your soldiers will die by asphyxiation

[junior imp]

bomb the ABSOLUTE shit out of you

untill not even an ATOM remains

of your industry

and naval invade you

so much

[jolly flower]

I am become droid destroyer of gungan

[sand heath]

invading ussr would be a stupid decision?

right?

[junior imp]

that you will see naval invasions in your nightmare

[junior imp]

Yes

deal with britain

[vernal river]

this is from earlier in my playthrough

[junior imp]

Every HOI4 players nightmare are naval invasions

[sand heath]

i dont know nothin bout naval

[vernal river]

like 70% of my casualties against germany were from the initial german invasion

[sand heath]

and i dont rlly know about air

[junior imp]

What the hell is Anochenic tiles

[vernal river]

idk special project that burns valuable rubber

[north spoke]

Either that or those units you get from puppets that you can't opt out of

[vernal river]

that i could use to make more b-36 peacemakers to bomb german children

[junior imp]

LOL

I swear those units are absolute shit most of the time

[junior imp]

Or the Regno Del Sud

Event

I hate Regno Del Sud

[north spoke]

I deadass would rather be DDayd 700 times per second than have puppet troops

[junior imp]

I would prefer not D-Days

[north spoke]

Valid

[junior imp]

But both will happen

wether we want it or not

[north spoke]

[vernal river]

i would prefer my puppets put their shitty units to use in the meatgrinder than just auto grant them to me

[junior imp]

Can we force the devs to remove Regno Del Sud

[north spoke]

Regno del sud is only good if it's my puppet

[vernal river]

like ew i aint touching those

[ancient marsh]

we REALLY don't like statistics

[junior imp]

Its sucks both times

[rain loom]

what should i do if the germans are blitzing through the soviets in 1940

[jolly flower]

Restart the game

[junior imp]

They also give you a gazillion divs

[rain loom]

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[junior imp]

And ruin your supply

[north spoke]

I wish you could choose to declare on them too just so you can eliminate them

[ancient marsh]

is it against your interest

[junior imp]

I wish we had a choice to remove them

Can we remove italy from hoi4

[rain loom]

im france, just a tad bit

[north spoke]

And it's sometimes those non-deleteable units too

Those SUCK

[ancient marsh]

are you holding against germany

[rain loom]

im not at war

[vernal river]

bruh i wish i could have killed more but they literally started running out of units to kill 😭

[rain loom]

thats why they are pushing

[ancient marsh]

do you think you're ready to attack germany

[rain loom]

i mean

[ancient marsh]

if you can hold up a lot of their divs then theyre less likely to push further

[rain loom]

their rhineland defences look like a few rocks and some sticks

[vernal river]

like i literally cannot figure out where people find more units to add to their enemy casualties score

[junior imp]

It always looks like that

[ancient marsh]

pro tip

[north spoke]

There should be an option to make all of mainland Europe Soviet puppets if you take cap Germany before d day

[junior imp]

Remove my eyes

what is that tank design

[vernal river]

bruh i always forget about flame tanks

[rain loom]

but memes are memes so i let them kill stalin and make the game 1000% harder

[vernal river]

whats with the fuel barrels tho wtf

[ancient marsh]

shit flametank

[junior imp]

Not enough bleach in this world to remove that

[ancient marsh]

its meant to be cheap and ass

but also good for supply if you're pushing somewhere bad

who cares about the stats of a flametank

[junior imp]

Its gonna kiss your enemies

[ancient marsh]

you're only making them for the terrain bonuses

[cold wedge]

should i accept?

[junior imp]

Power of Friendship

[vernal river]

im pushing central europe not eastern siberia

[ancient marsh]

trust the plan

[vernal river]

i literally have almost no supply issues with the 10/0s

[cold wedge]

should i accept this?

[ancient marsh]

those are the units i used in that 10m casualty game

[vernal river]

supplies deliver you

[junior imp]

Yes

deff

You can't win war without that

[cold wedge]

war tycoon

[junior imp]

holy shit

[vernal river]

also i literally completely forgot about the northern lapland front on my playthrough so whilst i was steamrolling germany they had abunch of troops pushing through karelia

[bright arrow]

Support equipment sells like crazy

[junior imp]

I lost a No Step Back because of this once

[vernal river]

damn

[cold wedge]

im selling leopard 2s to everyone

[junior imp]

which one gng

[vernal river]

its not like i didnt have troops for it i literally had a full army group on standby incase it went to shit

[vernal river]

air cavalry

vietnam larp

[junior imp]

I don't have helis

I wish

[vernal river]

start making some then

[junior imp]

My PC is not surviving that long

[vernal river]

helicopters dont take too long to research

[junior imp]

Its begging for release

[vernal river]

i got them by 1942 but im pretty sure you can get them earlier

[junior imp]

How did we research them? Projects?

[vernal river]

ye build an aerospace facility

wait

you have gotterdamerung right

[junior imp]

Yeah

[vernal river]

ok good

just build aerospace facility, assign a scientist, then just wait till you have enough breakthrough points or whatever for helicopters, then start researching them

[heavy vigil]

facilities are a free feature

[vernal river]

helicopters are not

[ancient marsh]

? they are

?

[vernal river]

facilities are but they have limited projects compared to what you get in the dlc

[ancient marsh]

do they just not do anything then

oh

[vernal river]

no, you use them for radar and nukes

and a few other things

[junior imp]

Should I nuke manchuko when I get nukes

I larp Eisenhower was it?

[cold wedge]

💀

[jolly flower]

What mod is that

[cold wedge]

i need to sell more equipment so i can afford to buy all DLCs

[jolly flower]

Lol

[cold wedge]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1827273767

[jolly flower]

Oh woah

[junior imp]

How can I improve this gng?

[cold wedge]

yes

too low combat width

[junior imp]

Add what?

[cold wedge]

add at least 2 more

marines

and maybe get 1 more arty

[junior imp]

good enough?

[cold wedge]

yes

better then before

[junior imp]

Thank you

[vernal river]

macarthur

[junior imp]

He got fire ideas

[vernal river]

nuke china

[junior imp]

Let him cook gng

[vernal river]

USA marine i like to make mechanized marines with the lvts

[junior imp]

Masallah

[cold wedge]

had to use motorized arty cuz normal arty doesnt exist

in this mode

mod*

[vernal river]

horse drawn artillery?

[cold wedge]

motorized

[vernal river]

i know bruh

[cold wedge]

that is what russians use

[vernal river]

im asking if you can have a horse drawn artillery battalion

[cold wedge]

irl

[vernal river]

yea

some things never change

ww2 i believe late in the war the soviets and germans were the main ones still using horses to pull their heavy guns

[cold wedge]

TIME TO SELL MORE TO ISRAEL, I NEED THE HOI4 DLCs

[junior imp]

Send a gazillion equipment to Israel

[vernal river]

guns were promised to israel 3000 years ago

[junior imp]

How I'm I running out of steel as america

crazy

[rain loom]

when ur industry becomes too chad:

[vernal river]

you probably have free trade on

or you're freedom-ing it too hard

[junior imp]

I got free trade on but I'm also freedom-ing it

I don't even have generals or advisors

Industry gameplay is peak

[vernal river]

more factory more factory more factory

[junior imp]

ROOSEVELT GET ME MORE FACTORIES!

[cold wedge]

i think im selling too much equipment

[junior imp]

Goated

[vernal river]

more bomber more bomber more bomber

more carrier more carrier more carrier

[cold wedge]

everyone likes me :DD

[junior imp]

Make war not peace

Make nukes not food

[cold wedge]

but i need money

it was prommised to me 5000 years ago

[junior imp]

Money not needed

[junior imp]

your german

[vernal river]

make money not war

[cold wedge]

yes

[cold wedge]

alr i get what u mean

[junior imp]

Vietnam larp time

I'm making helis

[vernal river]

ancient germanic-gothic scroll in abandoned castle deep underground in east prussia

[vernal river]

better yet liberate indochina with them

[junior imp]

Eisenhower get my libertea ready

we are gonna liberate the whole earth

[vernal river]

i think the air cav doctrine gives you speed bonuses for leg infantry that use helis but i dont remember

[junior imp]

It matters not

I must larp

more factories people more

[vernal river]

you gonna make fat navy or nah

[junior imp]

Yes I just need to research some things first

I love US navy larp

[vernal river]

same

[junior imp]

I'm making Light Cruisers Torpedo Destroyers Submarines Cruise Submarines and researching big battleships

Montana Class

For the funsies

Its almost over

[vernal river]

even though you can destroy the IJN with the stock navy its still fun building an ungodly amount of carriers

yeah and mega battleships

also i checked and yea the air cavalry doctrine gives you 20% speed bonus for leg infantry if you have heli battalion

[junior imp]

the IJN watching as 300 ships come out of the warp hole from nowhere

AA is optional

[vernal river]

i forgot the original one but it goes like "who would win, IJN divine light of the emperor, destroyer of planets, or USS we built this in like 2 days"

[junior imp]

the USS

[vernal river]

that thing is a monster

[junior imp]

It is 24k

cost

It is gonna be SO worth it

I can't even produce it lmao

Its too costy for naval treaty

[vernal river]

bruh you're gonna have to delay the entire end of ww2 just so you can have those in combat atleast once

[junior imp]

Yes

O WW2 just started

As I was talking

[vernal river]

irl they wouldn't make it anyway because the US had to keep their ships thin enough to go through the panama canal

[cold wedge]

why USA wanna buy 1000+ leopard 2s

[vernal river]

so if that wasn't a constraint its reasonable to assume the US would make much larger battleships

[junior imp]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

HILTER STOOOOOP

I DIDN'T MAKE MY UNNECESARRLY BIG SHIP YET

WAIIIIT

[cold wedge]

NEIN

[vernal river]

i can hear that gif

[junior imp]

We all can

Its traditional

[vernal river]

wait

10/0 inf division

medium flame tank battalion

heli battalion

[junior imp]

Vietnam reenaction

[cold wedge]

i can reactivate cold war tanks and sell them, holy money laundering

[vernal river]

logistics company+med company

most american divisions ever

[junior imp]

You forgot the unnecerally fast firing AA

[vernal river]

then you gotta speedrun researching jet engines to build B-52s

[junior imp]

Germany is getting touched tonight by my big ships and planes

[vernal river]

germany is always either a supply slog through france when I play us or its just a disaster the moment i start expanding the beach head

[junior imp]

I just invade italy

because I can

[vernal river]

axis always stack units really thick in the north

[junior imp]

The geneva convention does not include Italy

[junior imp]

yes

[vernal river]

but tbf i havent played allies since recent update besides the US, and i keep seeing german AI completely fumble barbarossa every time

[junior imp]

I never play britain

Maybe france a bit

USA sometimes

Poland always

[sour nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-hearts-of-iron-4-looksmax-sigma-sigma-face-gif-232308269668432623

[junior imp]

Is that name peak

[cold wedge]

yes im german, howd you know?

[vernal river]

so like when i got to europe as the US their air force and supply situation were already just terrible because they had spent the past 2 years ramming units into the red army

[junior imp]

Classic AI

[vernal river]

which is fine ig because i can bomb the shit out of germany with my superheavy strat bombers unopposed

but at that point its just mutiliating the dead horse

[junior imp]

I CAN MAKE BIG SHIP PEOPLE

[vernal river]

UK is gonna get mad

[junior imp]

They can cry

[vernal river]

what are you gonna name it

[junior imp]

While I build my big ship

Uh

Hmm

Any suggestions?

[vernal river]

hmm

[dim garden]

i am a new player in hoi4 and i have probroblems in plain tec can somone hlep me

[vernal river]

Republic Class

Idk

[junior imp]

#ask-for-help-here People there can help you

[junior imp]

Emperor Class

[vernal river]

sounds un-american

it needs to be somewhat nonchalant

[junior imp]

Hmm

HMM

USS Democracys Fist?

[vernal river]

sounds like something from helldivers

[cold wedge]

i think its GGs

[vernal river]

holy shit

[junior imp]

It is from Helldivers I'm pretty sure

[vernal river]

yea uh

democracy's fist is a bit too

[junior imp]

Its joever

[vernal river]

pronounced?

idk

[junior imp]

Liberty Class

[cold wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-giga-chad-sigma-gif-2545684001816472050

[vernal river]

too close to liberty ships

[junior imp]

?

[vernal river]

liberty ships were the supply ships the US massed produced in ww2

[junior imp]

Hmmm

[cold wedge]

let me see how many planes they have

HOLY SHIT

[vernal river]

400

uh oh

[junior imp]

Its deff over

[cold wedge]

25k PLANS

[junior imp]

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

[cold wedge]

PLANES

[vernal river]

oh lord

[junior imp]

I still can't find a class name

Man how did people name ships

[vernal river]

i mean realistically they'd name it after a state

so you could go like Texas Class or California Class

[junior imp]

USS Big Dih 🔥

[vernal river]

You know what screw it

USS Black hole harvester, destroyer of tyranny

[junior imp]

Warhammer ass name

[vernal river]

USS Divine light of Freedom

[junior imp]

USS Freedom

[pale stream]

red sea

rate the encirclement

[vernal river]

will this affect the trout population

[junior imp]

SCP lake 🔥 10/10 all encriclements

[vernal river]

just name it the washington class super-battleship or something

[junior imp]

Roosevelt

Class

[vernal river]

lincoln class

[junior imp]

Works

[vernal river]

abraham lincoln class superbattleship

[junior imp]

It doesn't fit

[vernal river]

into what

[junior imp]

Nvm it fits

[cold wedge]

GANG

[junior imp]

Its gonna be over in 1943 2 Feb

[cold wedge]

I THINK IM COOKED

[junior imp]

Its 29 Oct 1939

[junior imp]

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

[vernal river]

did you join the allies early

[junior imp]

Start prayers

[vernal river]

lemme see the frontline situation

and air

[junior imp]

Not enough tension

[vernal river]

invade canada

[junior imp]

Canada is allied

[vernal river]

pack it up bro

[junior imp]

go back to asia

Back to tribe life

Unevolve

God help you

He is gonna get pounded

[cold wedge]

i can stream the game in VC

[vernal river]

what is there to stream

[cold wedge]

i try my best

[vernal river]

you're getting get rolled my man

[cold wedge]

trust

nope

[vernal river]

what's the air look like

[junior imp]

Its gonna be Downfall all over again

[vernal river]

brother you aint holding the vistula for long if the air is bad

[junior imp]

Where are the 24k russian planes

[faint terrace]

If Paradox renames Slovakia into Eastern Slav Republic for April Fools then im gonna cry

[junior imp]

30k its over bro

pack it up

leave germany

[vernal river]

tf

[cold wedge]

im never giving up

[junior imp]

You are not winning

[vernal river]

wheres the russian air force

[junior imp]

you are getting absolutelly pounded

[cold wedge]

no

[junior imp]

its not even a challenge

[vernal river]

where are the 25k planes

also why do you have no cas

[junior imp]

On vacation

[pale stream]

"I'm fine"

[vernal river]

you may be able to make a great ostwall

if you build like a billion planes

including alot of cas

[pale stream]

that's my flagship btw

[vernal river]

the wall will hold the slavic horde for one thousand years

[junior imp]

You are NOT winning with those

[vernal river]

this is winnable

[pale stream]

I'm built different

[junior imp]

Comeback???

[vernal river]

aslong as russian ai doesnt deploy their planes you should be able to inflict heavy casualties

[junior imp]

The second the russians deploy planes

pack it and leave Earth bro

[cold wedge]

1k to 250k losses

this is winnable

[vernal river]

if millenium dawn cas is like TFR cas it's over

[junior imp]

how are the russians losing

[vernal river]

bruhhh

are you fr

you have like 10x more factories

[cold wedge]

yeah

but they get infinite manpower

[pale stream]

you take barely any casualites in tfr

[junior imp]

Guys do I invade mexico through the oil event

[vernal river]

so what if you encircle enough of them their equipment cant keep up with the manpower

[junior imp]

they will prob just use each other as guns

[vernal river]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-villager-news-tank-storm-gif-15395360

[vernal river]

genuinely winnable

[junior imp]

Exagarated menpower

[vernal river]

they're gonna overstack with understrength garbage

[junior imp]

No millitary factories

its over

for russia

[vernal river]

millennium dawn is whack af tho

[vernal river]

just embargo them

[junior imp]

No tacos for you muchacho

[pale stream]

im gonna kms i despise the italian civil war so much

[vernal river]

wtf am i looking at

ewww

[pale stream]

why do they get to occupy my land

[junior imp]

Blind me

[vernal river]

oh lord

[junior imp]

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

[pale stream]

if you need context, it's in my bio

I'm doing this for a reason

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1392657666052067461/1447162294713847818/attachment.gif

[vernal river]

late game hoi4 non historical literally is just a series of finno-korean hyperwars

[pale stream]

yeah

I mean, '48 isn't really lategame

[vernal river]

yeah you're winning

[vernal river]

post-ww2 counts as late game for me

[pale stream]

I sometimes play into the 80s

[vernal river]

pc specs?

[pale stream]

so ig is different

[pale stream]

32 gb ram, i7

some graphics card I don't remember

[junior imp]

What are they doing

[pale stream]

but I just conquer everything so there isn't many divs from small countries

[junior imp]

the russian generals are jorking it in the background 🥀 💔

[vernal river]

thats one way to do it lmao

[cold wedge]

OH OH

I THINK ITS JOEEVER

[junior imp]

?

[vernal river]

uh oh

[junior imp]

Yeah it is

[vernal river]

how many factories does china have

[cold wedge]

HOLYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[pale stream]

:3

[cold wedge]

HOLY

IM COOKED

💔

[vernal river]

are you winning..?

[pale stream]

weak

[pale stream]

with no diff

[junior imp]

Cooked

[vernal river]

they mobilized 10% of the population 😭

[cold wedge]

YES

WTH

[pale stream]

who wouldn't win with

[vernal river]

you can win tho they only have 1.7m deployed manpower

and 50 mils

im more worried about their planes

[pale stream]

this is ridiculous

(the italian puppet from civil war)

[vernal river]

not anything worse than youve already seen

[cold wedge]

😭

[vernal river]

lock in, keep encircling

[junior imp]

Pack it up

you are NOT winning

[cold wedge]

IM GETTING BOMBED

HOLY SHITTTTT

[vernal river]

oh no

[junior imp]

show us air,

[cold wedge]

RED AIR ACROSS EUROPE

[vernal river]

show us

[junior imp]

good early tank(I got shermans)?

[pale stream]

I don't see the problem

I forgot to mention that I'm playing a no-air challange

(fancy word for I don't wanna)

[vernal river]

remove tanks, add mech. infantry

your org is too low

[vernal river]

how many planes do they have on each air zone

[cold wedge]

1k each

[junior imp]

?

[vernal river]

oh god

[cold wedge]

with bombers

[junior imp]

Brocahco leave the world

abandon it

Downfall 2004

[vernal river]

build planes like theres no tomorrow

you still have equal industry as germany compared to russia and china somehow

[junior imp]

I doubt he can catch up

[cold wedge]

i got max anti air in germany

[vernal river]

doesnt matter bruh he dont have a choice

good

[vernal river]

that works. just add more battalions as time goes on

also build flame tanks for flame tank support companies

[pale stream]

why isn't it engaging

[vernal river]

set to always engage?

[cold wedge]

at least my navy is big

[pale stream]

yes

[vernal river]

huh idk

fleets act weird like that

[vague abyss]

time to push back west

[pale stream]

28 divisions lmao

how do you end in this situation

[vague abyss]

yeah we just had peace with germany, gonna build up my army

basically we uhh lost everything west of the urals nearly, germany agreed to peace in return for giving everything west of the urals

[vernal river]

west russian war ass

[vague abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/victory-will-be-ours-they-fought-for-their-country-world-war2-ww2-soviet-union-gif-7139282658745642310

yes but russia knows suffering

[vernal river]

bru you aint going far against big germany with 28 divs

[cold wedge]

polish infrantry holding 4 russian tank divs

W POLAND

[vernal river]

poland not fking around this time

[vague abyss]

also we got this thing

[junior imp]

Goodnight gng

[vague abyss]

no i know i only just peaced them im rebuilding

[vernal river]

how many mils you got

[vague abyss]

the plan is to bunker down for 2 years or so then go west after the USA deals with it

[sonic hatch]

In single player, what can you actually do 1945 onwards when it’s just a battle of having 40+ divisions in a single tile

[vernal river]

you’re gonna want to push west ASAP if theres no germans there so you can seize as many factories as you can

[vague abyss]

I hope in the next DLC they rework the tech, add an infantry designer and 1945 tech+

[vernal river]

then bunker down for war of attrition to let the US do their thing

[vague abyss]

SPG go brr

[pale stream]

this is not an overestimation

[cold wedge]

this might be a couple russian tank divs

💔

[vernal river]

one t90 for every man

[cold wedge]

fr

[sonic hatch]

In a single front there are more divisions than I have in my entire military

[vague abyss]

well its gonna be a while to get an air force ig

[vernal river]

yea uh you aint getting far without an air force

[sonic hatch]

By the time I had tech I lost all my manpower to Soviets lol

[cold wedge]

holy shit

[vague abyss]

Im researching advanced airframes but waiting on jet engines I think

[cold wedge]

bro

[vernal river]

nice

[vague abyss]

I got modern tanks so I mean T38 GO BRR

[vernal river]

maybe see if america will lend lease you planes in the meantime

howd you get modern tanks so early

[pale stream]

what could possibly be the reason

[vague abyss]

Im not at war

[vague abyss]

tech rush

[vernal river]

huh well alr

[sonic hatch]

I’m not even joking, by 1942 it was the British Empire Vs Communism

And the US joined in 1945

It was a bloodbath

[vague abyss]

yea

[vernal river]

basque-eurasio-african-american hyperwar

[vague abyss]

got a small problem

nothing i could really invade tbf

[vernal river]

welp

[pale stream]

I'd rather call it "Basque Celestial Liberation"

[vernal river]

you lost basically 90% of your economy

[vague abyss]

Yeah but on the bright side i get nukes and missile silos

how TNO

[vernal river]

you think you can win that?

[vernal river]

what are you going to use them tactically or are you gonna just nuke germany

[vague abyss]

Im gonna build supply, retake the urals strategically bomb and nuke supply hubs

[vernal river]

strat bombing as weak USSR

bold strategy cotton

[vague abyss]

the japs control the east so idk what to do

[pale stream]

yeah, I haven't even buffed the ai

[vernal river]

i mean you could invade japan

[cold wedge]

they got rekt by egypt

[vernal river]

they look bogged down in china

[sonic hatch]

Brother I can’t win against the AI as it is

[pale stream]

with what fleet

[pale stream]

that's a skill issue :)

[vernal river]

japanese manchuria

[sonic hatch]

Tbf

[vernal river]

kick them out of china and take the resources

[dusky burrow]

I mean you can build your own

You have more room for dockyards than Japan does

And also a lot more steel and coal

[vague abyss]

i need steel

[dusky burrow]

And also chromium and tungsten

[vague abyss]

W got some

[vernal river]

if you can cripple the kwangtung army and have china take the coast back they’d be reasonably crippled to where you could let the US kill them

[pale stream]

I might need more steel

[neat kayak]

Onwards to Chilean empire achv

[hazy kiln]

that 1 time when i want to play historical and this happens 💔

[dusky burrow]

i see that siberia is owned by i presume germany?

[vague abyss]

this is looking tasty...

[vernal river]

nah just west russia

[vague abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/tno-omsk-black-league-the-great-trial-gif-24456822

[vague abyss]

the west is owned by germany

[vernal river]

basically

literally the west russian war except you wont fumble this

right?

[vague abyss]

slowly building up but had to research excavation 4 to get 40 steel production

[vague abyss]

5000 hours (all legit) i got this

[vernal river]

is that a mod

[vague abyss]

seems reasonable to make it somewhat balanced.

[vague abyss]

is what a mod

[vernal river]

the peace deal

[vague abyss]

no i just used plpc

[novel otter]

I think Manchuria is the strongest china imo

[vague abyss]

on the bright side though 50% mil speed

[novel otter]

they get 5 research slots max while the other chinas get 4

[vernal river]

did you play as germany originally?

[round mirage]

How is it that in every save file, the german AI can capitulate the soviets, and they somehow have an impenetrable atlantic wall? I cant even get a western front opened by 1944

[vague abyss]

no

soviet

[pale stream]

lovely

[vernal river]

i didnt know plpc allowed mid war deals

[vague abyss]

just tag switch

[pale stream]

just

[vague abyss]

and then peace it

manually

waiting on these

[vernal river]

alr

does germany control north africa

[vague abyss]

supply aint bad

vichy

but no

[round mirage]

That doesnt change how the soviets somehow get crushed by the germans

[vernal river]

tf is uk doing

[vague abyss]

cmon airframes

[vague abyss]

I have drawn out battle plans

[vernal river]

im invested

[vague abyss]

ill show u in a minute gonna let me dog out

[outer tide]

chat something seems a bit off but what is it🤔(hint italy)

[pale stream]

palermo looking very oy crickey mate 🦘 today

[outer tide]

yea aint it mate🤔

[vernal river]

do you come from the land down under

[outer tide]

why is everyone started walking bare foot all of a sudden?

[vernal river]

everyone on sicily suspiciously becomes 6ft 8 tall with blond hair blue eyes

[neat kayak]

early 1940 chile

ecuador took way too much time

still good start

first big encounter is USA

yay....

[viscid swift]

guys whats the best defensive division template?

[outer tide]

kill meee already im here since 8pm and now its soon 12pm

[vernal river]

time to go to bed

the people's revolution in china can wait

[outer tide]

*can't

(i defently dont got school at 7:45am and gotta shower)

sorry

[viscid swift]

technically

[outer tide]

forgot to censor sh*wer

[vernal river]

even the brave chinese of the 8th route army rested for their most perilous trials against the fascists

[outer tide]

B

B

BUT HOI4

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-paradox-game-gif-23352949

[vernal river]

go to sleep bruh

[outer tide]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-dragon-ball-hey-no-stop-dont-do-it-just-calm-down-gif-23823773

[dusky burrow]

oh my 58 divisions

[outer tide]

THATS 3H,3H IS NOTHING

[vernal river]

ik im a hypocrite here because i spent like 5 hours on my USSR playthrough but that was on a weekend

[dusky burrow]

Do you guys know about the militia doctrine

[outer tide]

exactly so let me get my 1487h

1484h left to play

[vernal river]

keep in mind these are ultra rookie numbers

[outer tide]

ik

[eternal palm]

yEP

[viscid swift]

guys whats the best defensive division template?

[vernal river]

12w

shovels

[viscid swift]

infantry?

[vernal river]

yea

make alot of them

[viscid swift]

and support only shovels?

[outer tide]

just heard one of the loudest thunders in my life is it a sign for me to let go and finish tommrow

🤔

[vernal river]

i mean if you have the industry you could add AA, support arty, or whatever but if you just strictly need to get troops in the field to hold the line just pump out the 12w inf with shovels yea

[viscid swift]

there's a small chance it can actually hit ur house and fry ur electronics

[dusky burrow]

don't even give them shovels, AA and support artillery is cheaper than shovels

[viscid swift]

can i just...

[vernal river]

uh