hoi4-general

[terse lantern]

As I said there are always those clickbaity youtubers sending their hordes of squeakers after anything they don't like or may benefit from

[polar path]

its not even the DLC for me as i like the new Japan and China tree. (apart from Manchukuo as I think they did that country dirty). its the other stuff. like adding coal, making there no way to initially get more and being ina -600 deficit. the fixing that by nerfing resources so minors have to take double the civs

[terse lantern]

Unfortunately there are quite a few of them in the PDX gaming scene

[polar path]

its extremely punishing to minors

some may even be impossible

[devout trench]

it also broke 90% of mods in existence

[polar path]

especially with the new naval system which made things twice as complex

[leaden mulch]

false

[polar path]

that happens with updates but yeah

[terse lantern]

Yeah but as I said earlier that's literally just what happens

I worked for 3 years on large CK3 mod teams and yeah it was frustrating that it would break all the time but it's just how it goes

[devout trench]

you can get mods that somewhat dont function, a glitch here and there or a menu that doesnt work but coal just makes the game by default unplayable on mods that mess with resources

[polar path]

at least not without playing till 1952 but yeah not entirely impossible

[terse lantern]

One thing I will say about the modding scene

And the updates

[devout trench]

lot of the time there is no coal on the map and no way to get any since its finite

[terse lantern]

Is that I wish Paradox would give some more help to the larger mod teams

Every now and then they will drop a huge update out of nowhere and won't really tell anyone

[leaden mulch]

with new update u can make energy cost = 0%

[terse lantern]

And because the team isn't prepared to allocate resources, it will take months to get everything working again.

This isn't one of those cases, though.

[devout trench]

integrate kaiserredux team into the paradox dev team

[polar path]

I wish paradox would do anything except try to leech more money out of peoples pockets

[devout trench]

would fix almost all problems

[leaden mulch]

[terse lantern]

That is the worst idea I've ever heard lol

[devout trench]

nah trust

70 day focuses will be worth it now

[terse lantern]

I love those guys don't get me wrong btw

[leaden mulch]

integrate TNO mod team into PDX team

[polar path]

yeah but the inf nerfs are not any better

[devout trench]

i am numba 1 TNO hater in existence

[leaden mulch]

inf buffs

[devout trench]

and TFR

[leaden mulch]

PDX needs help with their schizo paths

[polar path]

not with these changes nope

[terse lantern]

I love the story of it because frankly a lot of it is really high quality just from a literary perspective.
The gameplay is ass though

[polar path]

double the cost for a power line

[devout trench]

trying to even get TNO to load half the time

[terse lantern]

I don't enjoy cold war or modern day mods too much because in my eyes they are trying to make HOI4 something it can't be

Been having fun with Red World recently though

That's set in 2010 but it's largely a reskin of vanilla

[leaden mulch]

Millennium Dawn Matrix

[polar path]

i used to play OWB a lot and I tried TFR but i didnt like it

i play vanilla at this popint

[terse lantern]

Yeah. My rotation is vanilla, Kaiserreich and Red World.

[devout trench]

OWB my beloved

OWB for being a almost 100% overhaul of the entire game runs surprisingly well

[polar path]

trtied kaiserreich once and got mega confused

[terse lantern]

Kaiserreich I like because it's still just good old HOI4 but also has a more interesting story and is generally better written

[terse lantern]

Yeah it can be hella confusing

[devout trench]

kaiserreich is just

you need to play it a few times before you get it

[terse lantern]

It's just story focused HOI4

[polar path]

i wanted to try kaiserredux but im still on the achievment grind

[terse lantern]

Gameplay is exactly the same

[devout trench]

now kaiserredux...

[terse lantern]

But it's got more of a focus on the story

[devout trench]

schizophrenia simulator

[polar path]

ive heard great things about it

[terse lantern]

KX is Kaiserreich but broken as hell and fully aware of it

Which I also enjoy

It's fun to be broken and OP sometimes

[devout trench]

KX is very broken but it just works

[polar path]

you see I am the guy who likes the French Chile paths and such in vanilla

so i would prolly like kaiserredux

[terse lantern]

Go for it

[polar path]

when its fixed for the new DLC anyways lol. if it is

[terse lantern]

Back in the day there was a really fun Haiti path where you put this weird dictator in charge and he has a Haitian Vodou secret police squad

[terse lantern]

It may already be fixed but I'm not sure

I think KR is already fixed and TNO is too

[devout trench]

most normal KX path

[polar path]

my personal fave is in rt56 where you play as Honduras and form the fascist empire via a banana corporation

[terse lantern]

Yeah that's a good one

[polar path]

very fun formable

pdx should add it base game lmao

[terse lantern]

The day they add a Central America DLC is the day I put this game down and never return

I don't want anything to do with that snake infested hellhole

[polar path]

id honestly take it over GOE

[terse lantern]

It's like the Amazon but 20 times worse

[polar path]

like any day

[devout trench]

can we just like

get supply hub update in central america and siberia

[polar path]

maybe acontent update would add smth

[terse lantern]

Supply Hubs probably shouldn't really exist in either of those place

[polar path]

who knows

[terse lantern]

Central America and Siberia were both very underdeveloped and often completely undeveloped at game start

Anyway I'm off I've gotta get ready for some stuff tomorrow

Nice chatting with yous

o7

[polar path]

and it probably still has more infrsatructure thaan Siam and Indochina

that's my least favorite area to fight in ever

[clear dagger]

hm noticed a bug where if you use foreign manpower for garrison then save and come back they just get deleted

[analog ivy]

does low coal still reduce your production?

[regal heron]

should i

[urban ivy]

no

[weary totem]

some planning huh

[misty fossil]

still -25% by the maginot

[weary totem]

nope, just gain

maginot +25 max

[misty fossil]

Oh im blind

smh

fair enough

Did you go little entente?

[weary totem]

yep

tryna get big entente achievement

also got the new faction achievement

i got instantly

after little entente focus

[shrewd hill]

is this civ greeding?

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/star-gif-16789607377123159596

[autumn pebble]

Not enough civs

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[kind glacier]

what are those pylon things u can build?

are they new

[clear dagger]

think they added them after an hotfix to the dlc or smth

[kind glacier]

what do they do

[analog ivy]

how do you even play past 1945? for me it takes 10 seconds for a day to go by at 5 speed

[analog ivy]

and i have a good pc

[clear dagger]

its 1975 for me

help

[kind glacier]

is this from the dlc

i assume so

[analog ivy]

maybe the new patch

i havent seen it before

[clear dagger]

they added it after they released the dlc

[kind glacier]

oh wow

[clear dagger]

I remember not seeing them like 2 days ago

[surreal mist]

its base game because its part of the update to manage coal

[analog ivy]

thats good atleast they are fixing it

is coal better now then?

[kind glacier]

damn i didnt even notice, is it worth it though

[analog ivy]

i haven't played the game in a few days

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-idk-dexter-innocent-gif-10412116

idk

[shrewd hill]

]the need to get an achievement

[clear dagger]

been stuck in a lux game for 22 hours

[analog ivy]

is this achievement even that hard?

[charred spoke]

Finally finished my Communist China world conquest🫩

[surreal mist]

i doubt the update is enough, i guess you need more infra, but its probably preferable to just drop down your mobilization law so you dont waste cic on infra + grids

[charred spoke]

27 hours of the absolute worst hoi4 combat I've experienced

[clear dagger]

send more miners

https://tenor.com/view/ben-stiller-zoolander-macho-walk-miner-gif-3456157

[surreal mist]

a grid is 12000 ic 😭

who tf is going to waste cic building that

[clear dagger]

yeah oof

[analog ivy]

i mean its pretty good late game when you are -500 coal

and you have like 400 civs to spare

[surreal mist]

go civ eco at that point

use those civs to make ports and airbases so you can continue your world conquest instead of making your coal economy better

[shrewd hill]

isn't it beautiful

[bronze mango]

It sorta requires a world conquest but no not really

[brave oracle]

when submarines are assigned to convoy raiding, do they search for convoys to raid? or do i still need dedicated ships with dedicated patrol mission for the submarines to find convoys to raid?
so does putting a radar on the submarine matter at all if i'm only going to use it for convoy raiding? does it benefit at all from sub/surface detection?

[clear dagger]

yes they search for convoys

they're not searching for carriers when you tell them to sink convoys

[shrewd hill]

they definitely search for convoys

could you imagine if Hitler's U Boats could not find convoys in the mid-Atlantic without a surface fleet

[sudden thistle]

Yeah

[shrewd hill]

there would've been no Battle of the Atlantic

[brave oracle]

does the same thing apply for fleets sent on strike force? do those ships benefit for surface/sub detection and try to search for enemy fleets to sink?

[brave oracle]

well true but this is paradox and i have no idea how navy works

[clear dagger]

build 100 carriers and 4 destroyers

[brave oracle]

so true

[upbeat schooner]

is there any way to import the launcher? like with all the playsets and stuff

[icy crescent]

Singapore is near the British Malaya.
That's some distance.
Many nations in between.
Kind of a world conquest with some rails.

[misty fossil]

mods…………..

he said the word…..

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-transformers-one-darkwing-miners-orion-pax-gif-4220211221272465850

[misty fossil]

he loves miners

[visual pasture]

finally jesus christ

took ages to expel the ethiopians

[trim pike]

[south lance]

does sub spam still work?

[visual pasture]

dont think so

since they dont actually contribute to naval supremacy

[sudden thistle]

Try it and figure it out

[south lance]

would reverting back to 1.16.9 help with that?

[sudden thistle]

U would miss the entire update

And dlc

If u do that

[south lance]

i dont have the dlc anyway ion want it

im tryna learn the game and they added coal , diff naval mechanics and some other changes im just gonna go back to 1.16.9

[shrewd hill]

my brother in christ just learn Navy

[south lance]

no thats gay

[sudden thistle]

Sub spam is even gayer then

[sturdy hound]

Is the game crashing for you guys?

[south lance]

also im a saracen

[south lance]

no its manly

me press right click it work

[clear dagger]

yeah idk why

[sturdy hound]

Ahahaah

[sturdy hound]

I went to the error logs

But I tried to find where I was using this equipment, but I didn't find it

[sturdy hound]

And it says this

[eternal palm]

U don't call yourself that 💀

If u are actually Muslim and u call urself that Im so sorry

[south lance]

its a joke buddy

calm tf down

[eternal palm]

It's not funny then

Get better material

[eternal palm]

Ay ur swearing rn

[south lance]

who asked your input

lil bro

[eternal palm]

Nobody. This is a public space

Feel free to leave

[misty fossil]

SUPER EARTH RAHH

[south lance]

feel free to stfu its a public space

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/helldiver-dance-ddr-gif-9507393890791192292

[clear dagger]

so far its just super balken

[eternal palm]

Nah

https://tenor.com/view/giant-fatass-bnuuy-bunny-bnuuy-rabbit-rabbit-whatever-gif-15720990188084548831

[misty fossil]

not at all

[heavy vigil]

no it was bad then too

[sudden thistle]

⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️

[misty fossil]

i tried. Sub spam doesnt work anymore

it was never good

you have to build an actual fleet now

[heavy vigil]

it was

[clear dagger]

i think i spammed too hard on navy

i looked away and my game is gone

[heavy vigil]

when the fleet was literally just number of ships = supremacy

[misty fossil]

nuh let me trick this guy into learning navy

[heavy vigil]

but they changed that years ago

[split fulcrum]

How do i combine my troops strength into one without sending their supplies to storage

[clear dagger]

either that or my computer is telling me to go to sleep its 6am

[misty fossil]

only destitute people avoid navy

[split fulcrum]

Consolidate button basically just removes them

[heavy vigil]

only select a few

[sudden thistle]

That’s the entire point of consolidation

[south lance]

guys disband button removes my troops😡

[eternal palm]

....have a stockpile.

[split fulcrum]

i am trying to combine my 20 20% strength panzer divisions into stronger panzer divisions

[eternal palm]

If ur units aren't reinforcing you're in a deficit

[eternal palm]

😭

Just make tanks bro

[split fulcrum]

I got a 6.7k deficit

I am currently making 2 tanks a day

[eternal palm]

Holy shit 😭

[heavy vigil]

untrained?

[split fulcrum]

I dont have enough tungsten

[eternal palm]

Then make more?????

[eternal palm]

Trade????

[heavy vigil]

trade..

[sudden thistle]

Anyone have that bicycle meme with shoving a stick in the wheel

Then crashing and complaining

[split fulcrum]

o

One second

Its 3.4 now

[sudden thistle]

It’s just this rn

[eternal palm]

Low Strength
Has a deficit
doesn't produce equipment
Why do I have low strength? :clueless:

[split fulcrum]

4.1 now

[sudden thistle]

This is called efficiency

[visual pasture]

damn

[odd leaf]

Guys how to host a modded multi server?

[viral summit]

Did they change the way naval invasions work

How come I can only send two divisions now

And why does it take so long to plab

Plan

[bronze mango]

You just have mods on and host it no?

[inner iron]

Didn't that guy die in 1940

[bronze mango]

Yes

[viral summit]

Explain

[bronze mango]

Pretty much everyone can naval invade now

[eternal palm]

You now got a global cap, instead of a div cap. And preparation time scales with the amount of divs assigned globally

Having the 2nd tech is mandatory now basically

[bronze mango]

What they said yeah

[viral summit]

thats so dumb

[eternal palm]

No it does actually make aense

Before it was kinda silly

U could just assign 10 invasions with 1 div each and just plan it in 7 days instead of 70

Even though the amount of divs is the same

The entire naval rework is the best thing in this update

You finally have to build a fleet now

[bronze mango]

They should add preparation time to paradrops

[heavy vigil]

crete wasnt prepped

irl

[eternal palm]

Neither was market garden :peepotroll;

[bright arrow]

Then where did the transport planes come from?

[bronze mango]

Added in Götterdämmerung as research

[nimble thunder]

Hello, Where can send a bug report?

[ripe slate]

@slim nexusPlease dont post screenshots with uncensored Germany flag

[ripe slate]

Forums

[nimble thunder]

Okay, many thanks.

[visual pasture]

idk

[split fulcrum]

@tepid nova my troops might not even have clothes atp

[tepid nova]

I’m gonna puke

This is mine rn as germany

holy shoot I have a lot of guns

Too bad I have 0 manpower

[split fulcrum]

spare me some

please

[tepid nova]

yea bet

[split fulcrum]

just 281.5k

please

also i prolly gotta delay barbarossa to 1942

[tepid nova]

No

[tepid nova]

I gotta do it rn

i turned ussr strength up 2 times

[eternal palm]

18k support equipment 😭

Maybe u should stop attacking if the entire front is red 😭

[eternal palm]

Only? Do Max Buff and Elite

[split fulcrum]

maybe i should load to the previous save

[shrewd hill]

Oh my god hurry the hell up so I never have to play the Philippines again

[mint narwhal]

Rip to the soviet army

[split fulcrum]

@tepid nova

i have 129 civs

[tepid nova]

Thats peak

[split fulcrum]

its killing me dude

i cant convert factories

i have only 103 mils

[shrewd hill]

see how much you can learn from Space?

[tepid nova]

I knew that already though

didnt learn nun

[eternal palm]

Maybe that 100% eco of conquest has smth to do with it 🤔

[tepid nova]

Thats a lot!

[split fulcrum]

is that from the mefo bills?

[eternal palm]

Yes 🤦‍♂️

Just click gold reserves

Or price controls

[split fulcrum]

No gold reserves to exploit

[eternal palm]

Did u already do them?

[split fulcrum]

Yes

[eternal palm]

So why are you already at 100 again 💀

[split fulcrum]

No idea

Maybe taking too long to do stuff

[eternal palm]

Maybe? 🤔

[split fulcrum]

Definitely

[eternal palm]

Also go up to total war?

Why are u still on war eco

U have a focus

[split fulcrum]

Yes

[iron helm]

ARTILLERY ONLY IS POSSIBLE NOW

[eternal palm]

It's been possible before?

It's just easier now

[iron helm]

+20 org

now it doesnt mely

melt

[split fulcrum]

@eternal palm slightly better now

i dont think i can make that economy of conquest modifier go away

[eternal palm]

U have to do autarky

[eternal palm]

Also go total war

It's a focus

[eternal palm]

Also why is your stab so low? Pick goebbels for inner circle

[stiff zinc]

Which is better for general infantry use?
18w full 9inf
Or 24w full 12inf

[heavy vigil]

thats detrimental

higher org on arty sucks because they die instead of retreat

[eternal palm]

Neither, 16w

[violet veldt]

Why 16

[eternal palm]

Fits better into forests

And u wanna hold forests

[heavy vigil]

even with a troll bad build it was already pawsible

[eternal palm]

Plains kinda get one-shot anyhow

[heavy vigil]

didnt have braincells to rerun game and do a better build for barb

[stiff zinc]

Huh

Thats new

[violet veldt]

With uhh

Less combat width

Do i add more bats

[stiff zinc]

They feel a little too squishy no?

[eternal palm]

The difference ain't that big

[violet veldt]

If i have 18 width and it turns into 15.3 do i turn them into 17 widths or 18.7 widths?

[eternal palm]

The point is to org cycle

[eternal palm]

17

Closer to 16

[eternal palm]

I mean 24w gets no stats due to penalty so

[violet veldt]

Since plains are squishy wouldnt it be better to make sure that its harder for them to push?

[vital quest]

Whats that thing with the infantry helmet and two granades in support tab?

Also hi Casey !

[eternal palm]

Assault Company

Unique to Germany

[heavy vigil]

helloo tac how have you been?

[heavy vigil]

german stormtroopers

[stiff zinc]

Its for general use?
Can push if and when necessary and can hold the line?

[eternal palm]

Sure

For battleplanning larger divs might be better

But if you can afford it

[violet veldt]

Inf cant push tbh

[eternal palm]

It literally can

[violet veldt]

Its not for pushing

I mean it can

[eternal palm]

Who are you to decide the purpose of inf kek

[violet veldt]

But like should it?

[eternal palm]

Who do you think u are

It's not up to you

Like, cas is so broken with the new patch, tanks are borderline useless

[violet veldt]

Thats fair

[eternal palm]

Ur inf can be shit, u just need cas and u win

[stiff zinc]

I dont plan to use it for a main push
Proper armor is still what Ill use
I just want something that can push when needed

[vital quest]

Thats the prussian one right

from the armyy brance

branch

[eternal palm]

Ye

[vital quest]

Cool I havent used that yet

[eternal palm]

You can just ditch the tanks and use inf and cas, but sure have your larp

Micro is dead anyhow

[vital quest]

lowk historical with prussian army doctrine might be cool

[viscid swift]

hey guys what divisions should i use to survive from germany as norway in the operation weserübung?

like template

[eternal palm]

God I hate that I have to grind 4 generals now

[violet veldt]

I like my divs having stats

Sorry

[eternal palm]

Swap logi for aa

And ditch recon and flame tanks

[viscid swift]

this is the template i have

[eternal palm]

Make mountaineers too

[eternal palm]

Remove 1 inf, remove recon and aa

[violet veldt]

Also i want tac bomber playthrough tbh

Idk im asking questions im too sick to do the shit i wanna do

[viscid swift]

why remove recon?

[eternal palm]

It's useless

Like it doesn't do anything

[viscid swift]

alright

[violet veldt]

(Stomach ache)

It does?💔

More intel

Faster tactic swap

[eternal palm]

It doesn't do that

[violet veldt]

To counter better i thinks

Or is that signal

[eternal palm]

Tactics are really minor

And it doesn't influence that by a lot

[eternal palm]

Signal does smth else

[violet veldt]

I dont think so

It ups initiative

[eternal palm]

Signal does ye

[violet veldt]

Signal does

[eternal palm]

Has nothing to do with tactic selection

[violet veldt]

Not recon

[viscid swift]

this will definitely stop the invasion from happening

[eternal palm]

Unironically might

German fleet is ass

[violet veldt]

But tactics are like

[viscid swift]

W

[eternal palm]

Really minor

[violet veldt]

They give big buff

[eternal palm]

Like ye they good, but like that's no reason to pick recon

You could just have signal

[violet veldt]

And countering tactics is like cool asf

[eternal palm]

Again, really minor

[violet veldt]

Yeah i agree recon is a waste of a slot tbh

Guerilla tactics for example

Is like

Most annoying tactic from last doctrine system

[heavy vigil]

yeahh

hoi4 hist ai but you have to play germany 💔

[viscid swift]

the international market is such a W

[violet veldt]

Casey am i bullshitting or do tactics matter

[viscid swift]

i dont think i have AA researched and im buying 1000 units of it

[violet veldt]

Like i think tactics matter

[viscid swift]

i do my bad lol

[heavy vigil]

like 3 of them matter because they cant be countered

[eternal palm]

U could just beg for Lend lease from sweden

[violet veldt]

But i agree with creep on recon being a waste of a slot for what it does

[violet veldt]

Which ones?

[viscid swift]

oh yeah i forgot

[eternal palm]

They do when you need the absolute max stats

Hence its important in mp

In sp, not so much

[heavy vigil]

guerrilla tactics, the SFP combat phase thing, masterful blitz, mass charge

iirc banzai charge is good too

[eternal palm]

Unless you have skill issue you always have better stats than AI

[viscid swift]

im so inteligent aint i

[eternal palm]

Don't do that 💀

[violet veldt]

Yeah

[eternal palm]

Forts are such a waste

[violet veldt]

Too many forts

[stiff zinc]

Time to test out the 16w I guess

[viscid swift]

will the divisions u told me to make be enough without forts?

[violet veldt]

They give you bonuses on attack from a tile and defense from a tile

[heavy vigil]

naval forts are okay

can only be attacked from 1 side and you cant rlly bring tanks

[eternal palm]

They only give defense when defending on a fort and they only increase attack against tiles with forts. They don't give attack when attacking from a fort

Fort attack only reduces fort effectiveness

And can't go positive

So if u theoretically had 160% fort attack, you wouldn't get an extra 10% stats

[viscid swift]

buying the equipment that will be used against them

[eternal palm]

Maybe don't give ur enemy civs

[viscid swift]

ohhh... right...

nah

or

more for trading with sweden

alright

guys

will this be a good ship

that i will 100% not even make before the attack

[eternal palm]

Hell no

Multi role is ass

[split fulcrum]

@eternal palm price control worked

way too well

[eternal palm]

Just focus your IC on army, the UK will have your back

[viscid swift]

alright

the uk is shit on land but the water's good

got it

also tho

because irl the germans attacked norway from pretty much everywhere

what about in hoi4

[dusky burrow]

Amtrac tank divisions be like

[viscid swift]

@heavy vigil i think ur good in the game so uhh do u know where exactly the germans do the Weserübung?

[sand heath]

guys can someone help (explain something to me)?

[viscid swift]

yuh

just say it

[sand heath]

so when i make edit a division

and then train some divisions

and spawn them in

i find out for example

its all infantry

why is that?

[north stream]

I’m seeing some different behavior from Japan since the implementation of the new Naval Dominance feature. Specifically Japan declares war sometime in the last half of 1941 and then doesn’t conduct any invasions such as Guam, Wake, Philippines etc. Is anyone else seeing significant change regarding AI controlled invasions?

[eternal palm]

....Because you trained infantry divisions?

[viscid swift]

cuz u trained infantry 😭

[eternal palm]

Like if you want different division, you need to design and train, well, different divisions

[sand heath]

wdym?

but i chaned the division

[eternal palm]

The divisions u put in queue

[eternal palm]

did u save the design?

[sand heath]

yes

[viscid swift]

did u double-check?

[eternal palm]

Well apparently u didnt

[viscid swift]

always gotta double-check

[sand heath]

imma try screenshotting or smth

[viscid swift]

alr

[slim nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/fantomette-invisible-fanto-la-nonne-drama-paranormal-gif-21679991

[heavy vigil]

like 1940 ish

[viscid swift]

where 😭

i know when it happens

[heavy vigil]

wdym where

theyll usually land in south norway

[viscid swift]

okay

[viscid swift]

they wont go from the north like irl?

[heavy vigil]

maybe

but theres nothing important there for you so why station units there

you can always move up

[viscid swift]

i mean i dont want them to flood in me

[vague abyss]

mods finally updated to new patch https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3614080182

[heavy vigil]

so you hold where your population and industry is?

[viscid swift]

hm..

i can also put units in all ports

wait can marines even deploy on non port locations

[heavy vigil]

anything can land besides ports

[inner iron]

You can land and retreat marines on non port provinces if you have the special forces doctrine for it

[heavy vigil]

it can be better for land units as they wont get the naval invasion penalty

but they will be encircled

norway has good tanks

[slim nexus]

<@&846894118219022336> in mp1 there is a toxic troll child can you kick him from vc named CEO

[viscid swift]

oh shit tanks

i forgot

[heavy vigil]

if you do the riksvagen focus and get the single swedish tank

you get modules that are super cheap

[inner iron]

Plus Norway doesn't have to trade for that much resources since it sits on tungsten and chromium

[vague abyss]

ermporer I am in VC, he is not trolling, hes just a child that wants to play HOI4 and u keep banning him and being rude...

[heavy vigil]

if you have a recording you can dm @grizzled delta to report

[ocean depot]

the Inquisition will purge

[viscid swift]

which one to choose im stupid

[idle berry]

Who’s the most optimal guy to replace hitler as Germany?

[heavy vigil]

the one you already did

[sand heath]

hitler

[ocean depot]

Thälmann

[heavy vigil]

its an event chain

[idle berry]

I tried Speer and I liked his industry buffs

[sand heath]

dont replace him

[heavy vigil]

you have to pick sweden, single tank

[viscid swift]

oh so uh

oh yea i picked sweden

[idle berry]

am I tweaking

[heavy vigil]

theres a bit of wait in the event chain

[idle berry]

Bhormann?

[ocean depot]

thälmann

[idle berry]

Hoi should add Einstein

[ocean depot]

Socialist Germany expansion

[viscid swift]

😭

[idle berry]

I want to replace hitler with like

Donuts

Or Rome

Tommell

Romell

.

Rommel

[viscid swift]

i want to replace hitler with my cat but i have no clue how to mod

[idle berry]

There we go

[idle berry]

Yk what

I’ll learn how to mod

And I’ll use that knowledge

[sand heath]

i swear imma crash out

[idle berry]

To make an event for operation Valk

And to replace hitler

[heavy vigil]

what are you doing

[sand heath]

wdym?

[heavy vigil]

like whats that unit and why spend 45 xp on it

[idle berry]

It’s a beautiful division 🥹

[sand heath]

doesnt matter rn (im new)

why does it only make tanks?

[heavy vigil]

because you set it to train tanks?

[sand heath]

wdym set it to train tanks?

how am i suppose to do it?

[idle berry]

I learnt hoi by mistakes lmao

[sand heath]

i pressed train

[idle berry]

Yes those are tanks

[sand heath]

and i changed the division so....

[idle berry]

Doesn’t matter still tanks

[viscid swift]

if ur gonna learn how to mod please DM me and let me send u a pic of my cat to make him able to overthrow hitler and cause an authoritarian rule

[sand heath]

then how am i suppose to train my custom division?

[idle berry]

Ok

[heavy vigil]

theyre already in training just not equipped

[sand heath]

?

wdym

[idle berry]

Lowkey motivated to

[sand heath]

why is this game so hard 😭

[heavy vigil]

is it?

[idle berry]

Wtf how the HELL do Yk APICRT????!!!

[sand heath]

so

how do i train my division not only tanks.....

[idle berry]

Make a new division

And also

For now

Just go with what it gives you

[heavy vigil]

like training = making new units

do you mean exercise?

[sand heath]

idk

[heavy vigil]

you are constantly making 4 new tank divisions forever rn

[sand heath]

i want to use this.

[idle berry]

Ok wait explain what you want to do

[sand heath]

i just did

[idle berry]

You are

[heavy vigil]

yeah you have that in the field and in training

[sand heath]

but

[heavy vigil]

they dont appear to have full equipment

but you did do that

[heavy vigil]

yes

[sand heath]

can someone create a video or smth?

[idle berry]

He’s talking abt the model I think

He doesn’t like the light tanks

[vague abyss]

I would say thats a nice conversion for my mod

[sand heath]

my dumb ass doesnt understand 😦

[idle berry]

He wants the heavy tank model

[heavy vigil]

idk what he wants

[sand heath]

i want my division

[heavy vigil]

watch basic tutorials though

[idle berry]

Maybe model??

[heavy vigil]

very useful

[sand heath]

i did

watch the tutorial

[heavy vigil]

you have it already

[idle berry]

Are you talking about the like tank outside of the menu? The panzer 2??

[sand heath]

so it draws tanks but theres actually artillery and shi in it?

[idle berry]

YES

see

[heavy vigil]

it only uses 1 icon

[idle berry]

He was talking abt the model

[sand heath]

oh sorry

for wasting yall time

[idle berry]

He’s talking abt the model 🥹💔

[heavy vigil]

the icon can change

its fine

[sand heath]

now can anyone tell me how tf am i suppose to invade poland?

[idle berry]

I have nothing else to do so you actually made me happy

[idle berry]

ooo for that

[sand heath]

i cant evan invade hungary

🙁

[idle berry]

Ok wait

Look

Try USA first

[sand heath]

why?

[idle berry]

it’s easier to be USA and help the UK

[idle berry]

Germany is hard to do as beginners

[sand heath]

i dont really understand how im suppose to invade smth throught focus tree

[heavy vigil]

USA is poor but its easy ig

[idle berry]

Yes it’s in the focus tree but I suggest USA

[sand heath]

so i have to play as USA?

[idle berry]

No but I suggest it

[sand heath]

and what am i suppose to do as usa?

[heavy vigil]

its very boring imo

your wars are kinda late

[sand heath]

so what am i suppose to play/do to learn the game

[idle berry]

Watch others play

Like genuinely carried me

[heavy vigil]

just pick any nation that lets you lock in

read everything

[sand heath]

i like playing germany but...

[heavy vigil]

ask questions like in #ask-for-help-here

watch tutorials

[sand heath]

only yesterday i found out how to invade austria

[heavy vigil]

its hard and takes game knowledge to utilize its strenghts

[idle berry]

And experimentation + failure = success

[heavy vigil]

not really lol

[idle berry]

not in a single day

over time

[sand heath]

so what nation should i play?

[heavy vigil]

but it might work qgainst the ai

[heavy vigil]

idk whatever you like

[sand heath]

i dont undertstand how to play italy

[heavy vigil]

i really like japan

[vague abyss]

check out the new tutorials, learn a basic country and the basics of how to play the game, national focuses etc then play major countries

[heavy vigil]

youd probably lose a lot but you have early wars

[sand heath]

idk nothing with naval

[heavy vigil]

so you can restart

[vague abyss]

you learn how to fly a plane before flying one remember!

[heavy vigil]

you dont need navy for japan

[sand heath]

how am i suppose to send troops overseas?

[vague abyss]

You need to learn the basic game mechanics

#ask-for-help-here

[heavy vigil]

its convoys

[idle berry]

Any that you please, but watch people that are good in the game and since you are trying out against the AI try bitt3rsteel guides

[viscid swift]

ah thats how i can join the allies when im gonna be at war right

[heavy vigil]

just dont get convoy raided which youll learn when fighting the allies

first you need to learn land war

by fighting china

[idle berry]

(Waiting for you cat)

[viscid swift]

ohh

my bad hold on

[idle berry]

😭

[vague abyss]

with a garuntee if someone goes to war against a country garunteed the faction leader calls in the allies but please use #ask-for-help-here

[heavy vigil]

also navy doesnt help against convoy raiding nearly as much as air does

[sand heath]

how many hours have yall got in the game?

[idle berry]

idek like 500

[heavy vigil]

ive played at least 5 hours of hoi4

[viscid swift]

she's outside

[vague abyss]

me too twin

[split fulcrum]

@heavy vigil do you think im ready to war the soviets?? (its already march 1942)

look at the strongth

strength

of those divisions

[viscid swift]

huh im pretty sure that wasnt a question my bad if it seemed like one

[sand heath]

so yall learned from 5 hours of gameplay?

[viscid swift]

😭

[split fulcrum]

hell nah

[split fulcrum]

ohh yea

i meaaan

[vague abyss]

show me ur tank design and template

[split fulcrum]

my divisions aint at that low of strength

its 80%

[vague abyss]

show me ur tank design and template

[split fulcrum]

no dlcs

im lacking the sp arty

[heavy vigil]

where weapon stockpiles

[viscid swift]

huh what

[vague abyss]

Okay, SPG's should only take up two slots as soft attack, the rest should be up to 36W with tanks and motorized

[idle berry]

You’ll get an invite to the allies

[split fulcrum]

uhh

gone

[heavy vigil]

-2.3K artillery

[split fulcrum]

my concern is

[heavy vigil]

SPGs

[split fulcrum]

i tried to war soviets last time

reached -70k inf eq

[vague abyss]

SPG's are expensive, unless ur an AA build they should be artillery SPG's

[prisma saddle]

is that one good?

[idle berry]

Here’s a b*ttleplan guy

[viscid swift]

guys i think germany doesnt care about me apparentally 😭

[vague abyss]

no

[idle berry]

Or you somehow got your entire army encircled

[idle berry]

no no wait

[split fulcrum]

nope

[idle berry]

Wait for ittt

[prisma saddle]

😔

[idle berry]

So you decided to battkeplan

The soviets?

[split fulcrum]

i was barbarossing

[idle berry]

Answer me

Did you use

Infantry

To attack

[heady bison]

whats a good fleet composition for patroling sea zones?

should i have a few destroyers and one cruiser with a seaplane?

[idle berry]

Idk I send out 1 destroy and hope it works

[vague abyss]

with the new conversion tech moved to basic machine tools you can just do converts heavies @split fulcrum

[gleaming acorn]

lol

germany got no beef with you bruv

[viscid swift]

maginot before me?

historical where?? 😭

[inner iron]

Germany decs on you when Denmark surrenders

[vague abyss]

what country are u

[viscid swift]

norwaty

[vague abyss]

ah

yeah they're coming soon to a narvik near u

defend ur ports

[viscid swift]

it might seem crazy what im bout to say...

[vague abyss]

yeah ur next on their chopping block

[idle berry]

https://tenor.com/view/pray-crying-black-guy-pleading-plead-gif-15911108386383402751

ts @viscid swift reaction

[daring geyser]

sunshine she's here you can take a break

[inner iron]

Brave of you to have your fleet out

[split fulcrum]

yes

That time yes

Now i got more tanks

[inner iron]

Your norwegian coastal defence ships suck donkey balls

[idle berry]

well DONT

[vague abyss]

opens console

manpower 300000

[idle berry]

Maybe the donkey wants to carry the fleet to victory?

[viscid swift]

exactly

[idle berry]

I hope you like fixed your army

[split fulcrum]

how?

[inner iron]

What I usually do as any Scandinavian is to refit the coastal defence ships to fill the empty slots with extra light batteries so you could atleast damage the german screens badly whenever you get caught

[vague abyss]

ok nvm jsut learn how to play the game first gl

[viscid swift]

is there any way that opinion actually matters to the AI

[vague abyss]

trade

events

[viscid swift]

or i should shut up before they actually attack

[daring geyser]

trade and events and attaches and licenses and lend leases

otherwise it doesnt matter

[vague abyss]

@heavy vigil know any AI mods actually updated yet?

[viscid swift]

does it mean i should or shouldnt trade with them

[split fulcrum]

Am i not allowed to know until i get good at the game???

[daring geyser]

trade with whoever will be on your side in a future war

[fallen vigil]

this is the mvp of every achievement run

[vague abyss]

converts is a higher hour player thing

[split fulcrum]

How many buttons do i need to click to convert?

[vague abyss]

it requires knowledge and is used for major country's only and usually MP

[daring geyser]

linux edition

[vague abyss]

The US will no longer send lend-lease to non-aligned Japan except if they have done the focus "Form the Jikyoku Iinkai".

aw man

no free war crime guns for china as japan

💔

[weak schooner]

one

[sand heath]

guys

if im for example japan

and i want to invade australia

with infantry

[vague abyss]

yeah

[sand heath]

am i suppose to make boats or smth?

[daring geyser]

man this guy literally albert einten...

[vague abyss]

have fun

[daring geyser]

you just need convoys

thats all

[vague abyss]

naval range is L in the new DLC but you can just station ur fleet in the marshall island areas then naval invade

[daring geyser]

and naval superiority

over the zone

[sand heath]

so same as paratroopers only i understand neither

got it 👍

[heavy vigil]

no

[daring geyser]

hearts of poggers mod changes ai and its updated

🙏

[vague abyss]

hearts of what...

[inner iron]

Me on bazzite be like

[inner iron]

You can circumvent that with your doctrine which is much more generous with naval max range

[daring geyser]

@heavy vigil i put glue on my tacos

[pulsar bloom]

What are all potential leaders for Japan?

[inner iron]

Democratic path let's you play leader roulette with events and focuses

[vague lion]

How is the lag now?

In MP

[pulsar bloom]

Well can you tell me what leader's or most of them I can get with all paths

[inner iron]

I ain't no dictionary sadly

[vague abyss]

yoo michael is in the new mansions DLC

[prisma saddle]

how is this one?

[vague abyss]

whats this for

[prisma saddle]

speed and push?

[vague abyss]

thats cheap

[prisma saddle]

so?

[pulsar bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/polandball-countryball-romania-confused-gif-26540957

[inner iron]

Long live Romania

[heavy vigil]

yummy

[pulsar bloom]

Casey do you know all the leaders or most of them i can get for Japan?

[inner iron]

I would be trying to push more breakthrough on it if you really wanted it to be consistent with a swarm push

[split fulcrum]

dude @vague abyss i need dlc to convert

[vague abyss]

no dude its a mechanic and u don't need to learn it since ur new

[sand heath]

yo im playing as japan how do i attack someone?

[heavy vigil]

no why would i

pick one with best buff

[inner iron]

For the democratic path, the first guy you get sits on the best buffs

Fat stability and pp gain

[heavy vigil]

yeah

[inner iron]

You will need all that pp to core stuff or puppet people

You can't

[split fulcrum]

found the button

[daring geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/chennakitty-eat-glue-vtuber-indie-vtuber-gif-15860036704501544243

[vague abyss]

dawg

i told u

dont learn it

ur too low on hours

its a higher hour thing

and only for tanks

[split fulcrum]

????

Why am i at war with the soviets????

[vague abyss]

because u are?

[split fulcrum]

the hell just happened

[prisma saddle]

how i make a good medium tank for push?🙏

[bronze mango]

What country are you?

[viscid swift]

guys if @idle berry will succeed then soon there's gonna be a mod which we'll have this fella as an OP Fuhrer

[split fulcrum]

Germany

May 1942

[bronze mango]

Did you give them the east?

Of Poland

[split fulcrum]

Yes

[weak schooner]

conversion is only good at 80%

before that u shouldnt really be convertinh

[fallen vigil]

this achievement genuinely made me try and kms 10 times

[bronze mango]

Well historically the soviets would've stuck Germany if they weren't invaded first

[daring geyser]

you must be really bad at suiciding

[viscid swift]

what are u doing

[bronze mango]

So it's probably cause you delayed your invasion or something

[fallen vigil]

wdym

[viscid swift]

what achievement

[fallen vigil]

bottom left

look at the bottom left of the screen

[viscid swift]

oh well W

[vague lion]

Secondary turrets. An actual good cannon. Medium cannon at least.

[vague abyss]

hi giampier

[vague lion]

Hi tumon

[vague abyss]

hi

[split fulcrum]

@tepid nova i think i gotta accept that i cant beat the soviets

[sudden thistle]

Are u attacking with underequiped infantry maybe

[tepid nova]

I just beat the USSR, they had 3.5 Million soldiersi nthe field, and 200+ factories
I was outnumbered twin, so idk what you are doing wrong

[split fulcrum]

in 1 or 2 months

[tepid nova]

He has no equipment 💔

[split fulcrum]

maybe?

hah

it aint a maybe

[sudden thistle]

Bro

[split fulcrum]

it aint a maybe

20

[sudden thistle]

Then use them

[split fulcrum]

30 width

not possible

if i load back

and try getting that

[heavy vigil]

never go negative equipment

[split fulcrum]

soviets will just war me

[heavy vigil]

it nukes your stats

youll take more losses

[molten forge]

i got my first division in 1940

[split fulcrum]

i can send save file

but its without dlcs

[tepid nova]

Never touching it then

Hoi4 DLCs cost your soul but they give such great happiness

[split fulcrum]

dude it aint that bad

[tepid nova]

IT IS

[sudden thistle]

It is

[split fulcrum]

i see a grammatical error

[sudden thistle]

Once u get dlc u will never go back

[molten forge]

i got the resistance and am happily turning it off

[heavy vigil]

ive gone back

its an experience

[split fulcrum]

@heavy vigil are you willing to go back again?

[molten forge]

also i guess want a real challange

[heavy vigil]

no usually not

[sudden thistle]

And ur special

[heavy vigil]

id have at least LaR and ToA

[split fulcrum]

ive got a special deal

check why my divisions suck

and you get to play without dlcs

[heavy vigil]

woow

awesome

[sudden thistle]

Why don’t u send a screenshot

Light tank recon

[heavy vigil]

spoiler: unequipped untrained bad general

[split fulcrum]

to send a screenshot

[sudden thistle]

Or just sell them

[split fulcrum]

i need to know where the problem is

which

i dont

[sudden thistle]

Support company

[molten forge]

btw have you tried playing republic of syria

[heavy vigil]

no air probably

[heavy vigil]

yes

i did once in sheeps mod

[molten forge]

and are you willing to try it modless

[heavy vigil]

it was okay

definitely a nation

[split fulcrum]

aint too bad

[heavy vigil]

ibe played guam modless syria isnt that bad

[split fulcrum]

these the panzer div generals

[heavy vigil]

those suck

[split fulcrum]

7 horse icon sucks??

[heavy vigil]

especially manstein is like your worst general to use

[molten forge]

republic of syria starts with no army no factories tho

[heavy vigil]

i know?

[molten forge]

and thats a good country?

[heavy vigil]

guam doesnt get ailitary high command

[split fulcrum]

nope

[heavy vigil]

yeah it has like a formable and decent core pop

[split fulcrum]

what

[molten forge]

wb the weak economy

[heavy vigil]

its definitely not a major country

[heavy vigil]

you get a lot of factories during civil war

when you cjvil war during eco focus and let other side finish it thats at least 1 extra factory

[molten forge]

with what units do you fight it

[heavy vigil]

and then youre just up against like saudi arabia and turkey

not the strongest countries out there

[heavy vigil]

camels

also just make guns

again youll be doing eco focud for mils

both sides spawn one in