hoi4-general

[woeful night]

Can I ask should I make a new template for china the 20 width template and just merge the guys??

Like early in

On because i look at china all their templates are crap early on

[shrewd hill]

guys which one should I take

I am so tempted by that beautiful -25% supply consumption

[grand wolf]

More around 30 hours

[shrewd hill]

just crap out soldiers with no guns

if your stockpile does not say -60k as China you are doing something wrong

[clever sigil]

The enemy will give us their guns when they die

[shrewd hill]

just max out maintenance companies and have them steal guns duh

[clever sigil]

No but fr check the losses of the Chinese during WW2 that shit is mad

Iirc

[woeful night]

Supply lines is king

[woeful night]

So just disband them okay ill keep like 48eesh division

[shrewd hill]

no you misheard me

I said make MORE divisions with no guns

[woeful night]

What????

You mean make more of those cheap 4 division templates??

[shrewd hill]

that's right

your end goal as China should be 36 width divisions WITH guns

but

that's the end

at the start, you shit out divisions with no guns

[woeful night]

And your asking me to go the offensive and just mass assault them??

[shrewd hill]

yes

well

not at the start

but the point is

when you have 36 width inf

you will have so much HP and org

your enemies will get drained of guns

and you will out org them

so you just repeatedly cycle

ignore the red bubbles, over time they turn green

[regal heron]

brazil is confusing asf

[woven raft]

Why don't I have supply?

On the capital

[hollow narwhal]

Maybe there’s too many divisions on it or something

[woven raft]

I got 3

[hollow narwhal]

Idk the same thing happens with Yokohama in Japan
The one province gets 0 supply while around it is all 10+ 💀

[woven raft]

It should have the most supply also
Cause it's on the capital

[hollow narwhal]

Hoi4 being hoi4 lol

[woven raft]

The one down here has full suply and it's in the middle of a jungle lol

[woeful night]

Im gonna try and build a 36 width units for china

[tall ledge]

why does my battle estimate keep jumping from 5 days to 20 days to 6 days to 17 days

[woeful night]

Copy the template and spam out my new 36wodth shock troops

As china which is st*pid of me to do

[tall ledge]

ok finally i conquered it

how do i stop attrition? i have a little red skull on my troops so ig they dont have enough supplies but how do i add the supplies

[last cave]

🥀

[north spoke]

supply hubs

and dont deathstack divisions

[grand wolf]

Hey im having fun stealing

[tall ledge]

what

[north spoke]

utilize supply hubs

[tall ledge]

im new to the game sorry

[north spoke]

they provide your armies with equipment

you also need to have proper equipment

[tall ledge]

how do i add supply hubs

[north spoke]

capture them when you can and make sure you can use them

building them takes a long time and they mostly come alongside major victory points

[tall ledge]

so how do i stop attrition

[tall ledge]

wait does deathstack mean this

[north spoke]

yes

spread out your divisions

theres too many to properly supply in one area

[tall ledge]

how do i spread them out

[north spoke]

divert them to other places

garrison things

guard other borders

just dont keep them all in one tile

[tall ledge]

yes but how like what do i click

[north spoke]

battle plans

front lines

[tall ledge]

what does that mean dude 😭

[lethal ether]

average hoi4 ai:

[north spoke]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1193239198300373133/1215347980572561548/attachment-7.gif

[tall ledge]

i bought the game a few days ago you cant compare me with guys who played for 500+ hours

[north spoke]

thats fair

utilize resources like google and youtube for help

[tall ledge]

and this is my second time playing

[north spoke]

hoi4 has a notoriously bad tutorial

[tall ledge]

finally realized how to attack a country

[tall ledge]

i watched their yt one

[north spoke]

dont

watch someone like bitt3rsteel or similar youtubers

[tall ledge]

but they dont bother explaining problems i come across like not having enough equipment to train new troops

[crystal marsh]

cobalt sea is making me want to smash my pc

[tall ledge]

who even plays as oceania countries in strategic games

[crystal marsh]

oh hey, we're doing the same achievement!

railway connections should do

[tall ledge]

why is this game so complicated i didnt expect this to be much harder than aoc2

[crystal marsh]

if this is complicated to you, wait till you discover all other paradox games

[strange stratus]

Why i cant make yunnan my puppet as china i did all other warlords?

[tall ledge]

i dont plan on playing them dont worry

[woeful night]

What is the best strat for cheng kai shek grab a 36with template and merge my jnits or spam rush naked division

[agile perch]

i accidently pressed a button why cant i see how many troops

[tulip thorn]

Aoc2 is a very simple strategy game made to run on phones

[manic iris]

guys question, what are these things below the main game that come with it im confused

[tall ledge]

i played it a lot before i bought hoi4, didnt know it was for phones tho

[tulip thorn]

Aoc2 was a mobile game first I think

[tulip thorn]

Those are old dlcs that are now integrated with base game

[manic iris]

ohh alr ty ty

im looking at it idk if i should do it

[tulip thorn]

Man the guns is also apart of base game

[manic iris]

should i do it

the game sounds SO FUN

[tulip thorn]

Do you have 100s of hours to spare to learn the game?

[manic iris]

if the game is fun yes

but it cant be that hard like i have been playing strategy games FOR ever

[tulip thorn]

its fun, but can be very frustrating at first

[manic iris]

do yall know Conflict of nations world war 3

[tall ledge]

im losing but 67

[tulip thorn]

no

[tulip thorn]

You are managing ethiopia war all wrong

[tall ledge]

i thought so

how tho

[manic iris]

this is what i imagine this game to be

[tulip thorn]

Not even close

[agile perch]

are u norwegian by any chance

[manic iris]

research stuff

[tall ledge]

what is that bro

[manic iris]

nope

[agile perch]

ok

[tulip thorn]

Yeah, hoi4 is nothing like that game

[manic iris]

its conflict of nations

ive been playing it for yearss

[misty fossil]

No

[tall ledge]

what the

[shrewd hill]

first time playing?

[grave breach]

non hist

[misty fossil]

Thats not how hoi4 looks like

[tall ledge]

oh ye thats the ultimate i sent

[tulip thorn]

In historical they will always accept annexation

[manic iris]

its a diff game

[tall ledge]

they accepted it

[tall ledge]

how'd you know

[misty fossil]

You said you expect hoi4 to look like it

[shrewd hill]

Just a hunch

[tall ledge]

💀

im on the verge of tears because of this game so yes you're right

[shrewd hill]

@tall ledge just a hunch

[tall ledge]

WHAT

is that even healthy

[shrewd hill]

my cs2 hours are twice as much so, yes

this is not healthy though

[tall ledge]

ok so im losing a battle even if im attacking with 27 divisions and they're defending with 5

[shrewd hill]

need that last 6

[shrewd hill]

alright so

[tall ledge]

i just love this logic

[shrewd hill]

defending is absurdly easy in this game

weight of numbers is not the sheer basis of evaluating the outcome of a battle

[shrewd hill]

you need to look at the strength of your units (the orange bar)

[tall ledge]

where's the orange bar

[shrewd hill]

and your supply situation (any boxes on top of your troops)

[shrewd hill]

the bar under your green bar

[tall ledge]

and where's the green bar

[shrewd hill]

next to your troops

[tall ledge]

this orange thingy?

im losing bro

this is not good

how do i send my troops to other generals

[ripe slate]

noob

(jk you know more than me prob)

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/twilight-sparkle-sad-mlp-sad-mlp-sobrepensando-yangnejitos-twilight-sparkle-gif-15168413280482682906

[shrewd hill]

click on 3 divisions, and right click another general

[tulip thorn]

nah im terrible at everything but navy

Navy my beloved

You should have seen my soviet build in my last mp game 💀

[tall ledge]

ye i got it

man i think i need to work on my patience a bit

the time is so slow here

[split fulcrum]

welp

can someone aid

i am playing as germany

[shrewd hill]

@tepid nova the KING IS BACK

[split fulcrum]

i just started my invasion

of the belgians and french

oh yea also im nearly outa fuel

[tulip thorn]

You can shift click to make a better looking front line with your field marshal

[split fulcrum]

oh wait are you talking about making the line itself

or assigning a field marshal

[tulip thorn]

yeah with that field marshal

You can shift click when assigning a front line

and it looks better

[split fulcrum]

does it change anything?

[split fulcrum]

it spreads out the entire army?

[tulip thorn]

I think it more evenly spreads the army

[ripe slate]

Spam light cruisers with light attack stacked is the meta I believe

[wispy glacier]

Is it recommended to use man the guns dlc ?

[ripe slate]

You cant disable it

At least, you shouldnt be able to

[tulip thorn]

yeah

And you also should make 2 super heavy battleships and atleast 2-4 carriers

im still learning the patrol fleet from this dlc and navy mechanics

[shrewd hill]

you need neither of those

just shit out torpedo destroyers, light attack cruisers and heavy cruiser baits

[tulip thorn]

I never said that you needed them, its just a recommendation

[shrewd hill]

oh and roach destroyers

[tulip thorn]

thats how I do navy

[minor flint]

opinions chat?
(The speed is supposed to be 14km/h I forgot to put on the higher engine)

[tulip thorn]

Land crusier go brrrrr

[shrewd hill]

you don't need it to go 14km/h

you stick that with infantry

boom

space soldiers

[minor flint]

put this guy as a support unit for one special forces unit and that guy will tear shit

[shrewd hill]

enemy inf won't be able to pierce your inf xD

[minor flint]

nah, put it on mountaineers

[bold rune]

this focus destroys your faction influence for some reason

[tulip thorn]

But land cruiser ruins terrain bonuses

[minor flint]

Land cruisers are EXPENSIVE tho
It's better to use it for a Special special forces unit

[minor flint]

Eh, tanks have drawbacks sadly

[tepid nova]

I did not need ts today 💔

[shrewd hill]

no way, you're telling me tanks don't go up mountains well?

[shrewd hill]

yes you did

there is always more to learn from space

[tepid nova]

Space is secretly a hoi4 master using unknown tactics

[shrewd hill]

you are just too low level to understand his plays

[grand wolf]

🤨

[tall ledge]

why is this so boring

i just have to sit and wait 51 days for the troops to conquer a province

[split fulcrum]

OMAN BRO

OMAN

[icy crescent]

Are your units supplied well?

[tulip thorn]

Its because of the way you organized your army to attack ethiopia as italy

[shrewd hill]

if you are taking 51 days to take a tile in Ethiopia

[tulip thorn]

if done right you can deal with ethiopia in a month

[shrewd hill]

you are at fault

[tulip thorn]

Even less

[tall ledge]

no it says 51 then 14 then 2 then 108

so i have no idea really

[shrewd hill]

@tepid nova Space encounters Oman

unstoppable force vs immovable object

[tall ledge]

now it says 12 but 2 seconds ago it said 105

[split fulcrum]

@tepid nova the kind italians decided to send me their troops when their own land is getting captured

[tall ledge]

but this whole game is just waiting

[shrewd hill]

@tepid nova come bear witness to this superb display of generalship

[tall ledge]

u click a few times and then wait

[shrewd hill]

when your troops are supplied

and good

it is not a waiting game

[atomic grove]

are you playing italy?

[tall ledge]

im playing italy

[tall ledge]

ok but i have no idea how to supply the troops

[atomic grove]

thats the point

its speed

[atomic grove]

you dont

[tall ledge]

i was told build supply hubs or whatever

but idk how to

[atomic grove]

you cant do anything about the supply in ethiopia

[tulip thorn]

Yeah as italy, there is a very specific way to handle ethiopia

[atomic grove]

if its like mid april and ethiopia is still alive, restart

[tall ledge]

its may

i havent even gotten half of ethiopia

[atomic grove]

spearhead

[tall ledge]

actually i think the situation is worse

[atomic grove]

watch bittersteel's strat to beating ethiopia

[tall ledge]

ands its may currently

[atomic grove]

oh my days

[split fulcrum]

@shrewd hill why are these guys not attacking on their own

[atomic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-trying-not-to-laugh-laughing-facepalm-lmao-gif-15446474421410342464

why did u move the southern army to the north

keep the south army in the south

[split fulcrum]

thats the southern army

[tall ledge]

this is my 2nd time playing

the last time i couldnt even take one province

[atomic grove]

oh i see

[atomic grove]

just be very agressive

[tall ledge]

so i restart ig?

[atomic grove]

also

[atomic grove]

yes

assign the entire italian army to ethiopia

[tall ledge]

bro you dont get it

[atomic grove]

put mountaineers to the north army

[tall ledge]

i have no idea how

i watched 5 hours in total of tutorials

[atomic grove]

the rest, distribute equally to north and south

[tall ledge]

it didnt help

[split fulcrum]

ohh thats why

[atomic grove]

either they were bullshitting or you kind of forgot

[tall ledge]

i was happy i figured out how to get a province

[atomic grove]

just watch bittersteel's strat to beating ethiopia

[tepid nova]

Space

[split fulcrum]

hi

[tall ledge]

he doesn't have one

[tepid nova]

uhh

[tall ledge]

i just searched it on yt

[tepid nova]

You're doing good man

No more hating

[tall ledge]

he just has vids how to win the world as ethiopia

[tepid nova]

❤️

[split fulcrum]

dude

but how do i tell them to attack the tiny sliver of belgian land left

[atomic grove]

watch "making italy great again"

[tepid nova]

IM GONNA CRY
These frigging border wars I get as the USSR is destroying my entire army, because my generals just keep being kidnapped

[atomic grove]

the strat that he got from mach is still reliable

[shrewd hill]

@tepid nova you need to take a break

look at Space's performance instead

[tepid nova]

No?

[shrewd hill]

it brings tears of joy to everyone's eyes

[tepid nova]

Im blocking space just to avoid that

[shrewd hill]

NO?

[tepid nova]

isa joke

Come onn!

Relaxxx

[tall ledge]

i think ill have to quit this game for a bit

[shrewd hill]

Sloth be honest

you're just jealous

[tepid nova]

Nah twin

[tall ledge]

ill try again in a few days

[tepid nova]

Im amazing at hoi4

Almost dont use cheats in my games ✌️

[split fulcrum]

BRO

[tulip thorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqNLVLRvwYU

[split fulcrum]

WHY ARETHENT

THESWE GUSY ATTACKING

[tepid nova]

I have like 350K guns as the USSR 😭 Idk what to do with it all

[tulip thorn]

More infantry

MORE

[tepid nova]

If they dont got any Organisation (the green bar) then they cant attack

[shrewd hill]

tf are you talking about

[tall ledge]

i found it

[shrewd hill]

make 36 widths

[tall ledge]

ill just quit for a bit and try it again in a few days

[tepid nova]

7 million manpower gonna go to 0 🔥

[split fulcrum]

ITS FULL

[tall ledge]

this is too hard

[tulip thorn]

You need every single soviet in the army

[tepid nova]

uh oh ahh I-

[split fulcrum]

do you see the blue arrow

THAT THEY ARENT LISTENING TO

wait ist aht blue or green

[tepid nova]

Cus

idk man

Use offensive line instead of spearhead

[split fulcrum]

THAT IS OFFENSIVE

[tepid nova]

nvm

Okay so the reaosn they arent attackingis because then they dont think they can win

set the general to aggresive

The right one is aggresive

[split fulcrum]

YES

YES

@tepid nova thank you

although theyre probably correct about the "cant win" part

atleast for now

[topaz cobalt]

probobly my record

[split fulcrum]

@tepid nova this is going worse than the polish war

[tepid nova]

this is such a mess

I was never this bad at hoi4

when I started I already had 1000 hours

[split fulcrum]

i cant beat this guy

[shrewd hill]

@tepid nova

this is beautiful

look at those understrength divisions

look at the undersupplied light tanks in 1940

[topaz cobalt]

wanna see a mess here you go

[shrewd hill]

actually brings tears of joy to my eyes to see such art

[tepid nova]

Why the hell is there so many division icons

[topaz cobalt]

i just invited everyone into allies with console and declared war on somebody xd

[tepid nova]

WHAT

nvm

[split fulcrum]

DUDE

[tepid nova]

Have fun

[split fulcrum]

HELP

I BEG

I DONT WANT TO LOAD BACK 3 YEARS

[topaz cobalt]

this is like 3 months old screen

nvm i have it on my other pc this was belgium with conzole

(yeah i use console when im bored)

[patent thistle]

uhm-

[sharp lava]

hol,y

[patent thistle]

thats no carrier is a straight up airbase-

[tepid nova]

hoi4 try not to run like shit, Difficulty: Impossible

[topaz cobalt]

[tepid nova]

What the

[topaz cobalt]

visual bug when i added it to general it fixed it self (sorry for shir EN)

still wonder how it happened

[tepid nova]

Sorry for bad english?!

apolgy for bad english it is my first languagen’t

where were you when club pengin die

i was at house eating dorito when phone ring

“club pengin is kil”

“no”

[celest sandal]

???

[tepid nova]

:D

[topaz cobalt]

I don't know if it was good as I have a 1 in English but that sentence sounded strange to me that's why I wrote sorry for my bad EN

[tepid nova]

You good twine pine

[topaz cobalt]

[patent thistle]

HOW-

[topaz cobalt]

idk

[patent thistle]

also me think collapsing world: Rise of Radicalism has a Minor bug with carriers-

[crystal marsh]

why are there 2 offshore patrols

[icy crescent]

Non-Core manpower goes brrr.

[azure palm]

If you ignore the red bubbles, it looks great

[craggy trail]

Offshore patrol is the main primary naval branch for the Philippines

[spring relic]

hello

is one 9 block inf with engineers better than three 6 block inf with engineers

currently trying to do 30 minutes of hel

[viscid badger]

18 width will take less casualites than a 12 width div due to higher hp, also might hold better with higher defense. lower widths should reinforce quicker but it really depends on how much equipment you have

[tulip thorn]

Good morning

[astral turret]

Usa making two same puppets

[azure palm]

FRANCE! WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!

[ocean mirage]

The lion jacks off in absence of the enemy.

[hasty bear]

may I present to you

[versed rapids]

how to leave a faction in the new dlc

[ripe slate]

In the faction menu

Possibly in the faction member list, thats where members are kicked

[versed rapids]

i can't leave

[azure palm]

Wich one should I pick?

By the way, the French still havent taken Saarbrücken

[regal heron]

nuke is fun asf

[topaz cobalt]

[regal heron]

🥀

[topaz cobalt]

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/twistim-mlp-my-little-pony-happy-twilight-sparkle-gif-6481078317428471599

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/twilight-hello-my-little-pony-gif-8820966

[raw shale]

anyone wanna play some co-op?

[leaden mulch]

Mods remove that guy

#1239926537512292362

[paper echo]

average europa universallis map

[tulip thorn]

Kingdom of sweden mostly being in finland is funny

[dense bronze]

0/10 No Ottoblob

[paper echo]

hungary having half of mongolia is also funny

[slow cloak]

holy peak

[tulip thorn]

Iraq in siberia

[paper echo]

in italy theres another middle east nation

i think its saudi arabia

funny thing is that new dlc countries still have content

[tulip thorn]

lol

[barren gust]

Most kills I ever got

[manic iris]

ive done it

i got the game

@sage plover

i saw this game yesterday

lets see if it was worth it

[molten pasture]

#ask-for-help-here is your friend

Good luck

[barren gust]

Takes awhile to learn but it’s worth it

[manic iris]

i dont need it

💪

how hard can it be

make troops

[molten pasture]

That's what they all say

[manic iris]

kamikaze

attack

and boom

[molten pasture]

A basic tutorial can easily be 2 hours long

[manic iris]

is singleplayer or multiplayer more fun

[manic iris]

the only tutorial i saw is a 5 minute one explaining in a nutshell

[molten pasture]

Multiplayer with a chill group

[manic iris]

i dont have a chill group

[molten pasture]

But multiplayer won't be fun without first knowing your way around the game

[manic iris]

alr ill start single

this is gona be ez

i be albania

and attack everyone

[manic iris]

am i gonna have fun playing this

[sharp lava]

holy usa

holy

[manic iris]

by the looks of this ss im so cooked where do i even start

[sharp lava]

germany

germany is the best nation

[molten pasture]

Once you learn it yes

[sharp lava]

@manic iris i have almost 2 thousand hours on the game and i still dont know how navy works and can barely invade nations

[manic iris]

thats good to hear

i started

what nation

should i be the austrian painter or italy

or stalin

[molten pasture]

I also have almost 2000 hours, have no clue what I'm doing but I know how to mod the game

[manic iris]

guyss what nation

adolf sounds fun'

[molten pasture]

Either of those 2, preferably Germany

[sharp lava]

i used to know how to mod

not anymore

[sharp lava]

yes

adolf

[manic iris]

the painter it IS

[sharp lava]

just

try to not

invade usa

[molten pasture]

He'll die to Poland, don't worry

[sharp lava]

austria*

[molten pasture]

Historical is on by default

[sharp lava]

true

imagine he deactivates it on accident 😭

[manic iris]

where tf do i even start

[sharp lava]

so

[manic iris]

im invading russia

[sharp lava]

click on the question mark

[slim nexus]

Justify war goal on uk

[manic iris]

theres question marks everywhere

[sharp lava]

the grey one

at top

thgat has a laurel

around it

[manic iris]

okay

i thoiught i was gonna be good at the game

[sharp lava]

lol

[manic iris]

i cant give orders to even attack

WHY IS THE GAME SO DETAILED

i did something

[blazing smelt]

is this game worth it

[heavy vigil]

notifications up top

[slow tiger]

no

[manic iris]

i bought it 20secs ago i think yes

its 8 bucks on cdkeys so its pretty cheap\

[blazing smelt]

ok

[heavy vigil]

no youre not

[blazing smelt]

is it fun

im thinking of buy

[heavy vigil]

takes a lot of time to really know how to play

otherwise id say so

[blazing smelt]

Alr

[manic iris]

dude theres so much to do

its insane idk where to start

[hasty bear]

are you at war?

[neat kayak]

Run over

GG and fun asf

[haughty bison]

Honestly i recommend watching hoi4 yt channel beginner video they explain everything needed

The video is 100% vanilla no dlc

There are 2 versions of this video so make sure to check the date so you dont end up watching the old not like it wont be helpful

[regal heron]

stupid italy 🥀

[heavy vigil]

yes i think i did tell you

[slow cloak]

anime hisotry mod is lowkey peak

[manic iris]

I WAS NOT EXPECTING THIS

[haughty bison]

If only the advisor were also changed

[manic iris]

WHAT. THE . ACTUAL. FLIP IS THIS

[sudden thistle]

Focus tree

[manic iris]

SHOULD i opose hitler

[sudden thistle]

No

[barren gust]

Depends on how you wanna do it. I mean I think Germany just playing how it went out in real life is a good first game

[buoyant heath]

How come when I form Roman Empire I need 500 coal? Where am I suppose to get 500 coal?

[sudden thistle]

U don’t

Literally

[gaunt thorn]

Yk what's crazy

[buoyant heath]

Why is the game making me need 500 coal

That’s absurd

I don’t even have that many factories

[gaunt thorn]

Not a single country has declared and won a war against the UK in over 220 years

Napoleon lost in the end

Won WW1

Won WW2

Was on the winning side of the cold war

Won against argentina

[manic iris]

wait why didnt i get italy for roman empoire

[copper sluice]

me when I lie

[gaunt thorn]

Supply system is so stupid sometimes

[manic iris]

why is there czeck armies at the border

[opal nymph]

Well, what does F4 look like

Where is your supply capital

[manic iris]

why is poland attacking me

[split fulcrum]

Are you playing the tutorial?

[manic iris]

should i be concered

[manic iris]

no im eyeballing it

[molten pasture]

No, the AI just guards their borders

[manic iris]

oh

i launchyed a full scale invasion

[heavy vigil]

play an easier nation?

[split fulcrum]

You arent at war though

[manic iris]

im so lost

[split fulcrum]

@heavy vigil can you help me with strategy

I am stuck

This war is turning into ww1 2.0

I already lost 200k to france

[manic iris]

why do i have 5 front lines

[buoyant wedge]

paradrop

[split fulcrum]

Good question

Why do you have 5 frontlines???

[manic iris]

why do i 😭

[split fulcrum]

I dont have aerial superiority (no manpower to assign planes to airzone)

[buoyant wedge]

oh

what year is it

[split fulcrum]

dec 1940

[buoyant wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-shocked-funny-memes-gif-2651717394134726385

1940 and no manpower

how much units did u deployt

[split fulcrum]

I lost em against poland

A million

I have 840k left in those

its quite the dire situation

[buoyant wedge]

turn occupation to local police

[haughty bison]

What garrison troups are you using?

[hollow narwhal]

what are the actual criteria for denmark to surrender? like if im playing someone other than gertmany like iceland and declare war
how do i get them to surrender? if i join the axis without calling germany in woudl i get the event?

[night geyser]

where are the guides so that I can learn the game bcs I just started?

[buoyant wedge]

and use pure caverly

as garrison

[split fulcrum]

I dont know that

I cant check since i already closed the game

I took those screenshots before

[haughty bison]

Change to a cav template with 1 cav

And use 0 support companies

Or

Go full cav and 1 MP support

[manic iris]

hold up im cooking

[hasty bear]

I can't form the EU as fascis France?

[austere crypt]

chat how do I get my marshals to have more general slots? 😭

[haughty bison]

Why you have an army on Czech?

[split fulcrum]

Why not?

[buoyant wedge]

full cav

idk if im lying tho

[manic iris]

cooking even more

[haughty bison]

You need to have more than 24 to train the trait

[austere crypt]

guh

[split fulcrum]

(youre not at war)

[haughty bison]

Unless they are guarantee poland they wont attack

[buoyant wedge]

????

[hasty bear]

eh

[hollow narwhal]

technicaly the best garrison is heavy tanks with the expensive armor cuz 98% hardness 🤣

[haughty bison]

Just use light tanks then

[manic iris]

{ how do i declare war}

[hollow narwhal]

armored cars

[haughty bison]

Either need a war goal form focus or justify

[split fulcrum]

You get the war goal from focus tree

[opal nymph]

You probably want to build up your industry and army

[austere crypt]

heavy tank = light tank with 1 additional armor frfr

[buoyant wedge]

then clikc declare war

[split fulcrum]

He gets a war goal from the focus tree

[buoyant wedge]

otherwise u can get war goals from ur focus tree

[manic iris]

i need 1 more political power

how i get that

[split fulcrum]

Unpause

[buoyant wedge]

unpause

[paper portal]

hi

[manic iris]

i have

[manic iris]

😭

[worldly spruce]

what do you guys think of this design i found?

[lyric shell]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1372581388741640264/1444560200471285800/1712599182616.gif

[manic iris]

im playing as hitler what do u expect

[haughty bison]

Pp ( political power ) automatically increase over time

[buoyant wedge]

add mio

[split fulcrum]

I just realised the guy is playing on 1x speed

[elder bronze]

Did anybody here played democratic China? What is their foreign policy content in the endgame, from focus descriptions I have impression that they liberate Asia from European colonisers, but how they do so? Do they do this peacefully or by war, if by war, if by war, is there scripted peace or you will need to march all way to London?

[buoyant wedge]

and some fuel tanks

[manic iris]

wtf i need so much

[hollow narwhal]

1940 by 2040 😭

[split fulcrum]

Use the focus tree war goal

[manic iris]

how

where

[opal nymph]

I really suggest you do your focus tree and go to war on the historical date

[paper portal]

justify only one region you can still occupy others through conference

[opal nymph]

Danzig or War

[split fulcrum]

The guy doesnt know what a focus tree is

[buoyant wedge]

its like thgat one guy on youtube that only plays one ingame day each irl day

[heavy vigil]

germany is hard

[opal nymph]

He does, he set a national focus

[worldly spruce]

the poor planes💀

[heavy vigil]

such an unintuitive nation

[manic iris]

no pp

[split fulcrum]

He does?

Ah well good

[manic iris]

yes ik what te tree is

i almost opposed hitler

[split fulcrum]

Choose the ones with the two flags beside it, thats the historical path

[opal nymph]

If you want an instant war, you oppose hitler

And you fight yourself

[manic iris]

i wanna fight poland not mysekf

[paper portal]

because fighting yourself is fun

[lyric shell]

nice org

[fading elk]

So first time playing kaiserriech

I invaded the Dutch as they took over Flanders’s and made them a puppet

[opal nymph]

Enjoy staring at the decision screen

[fading elk]

And integrated the East Indies into my Asian colony

[manic iris]

i was not expecting this depth of a game

[fading elk]

I tried to help in the Balkans with Bulgaria but since the ottomans invaded them for a while I was stumped on how much I should

Also the Hungarians went to war with Austria and died

[haughty bison]

It's get worse

Or more fun?

Depends on how much you hate yourself

[manic iris]

right now im having fun but not at the same time

[fading elk]

So I was wondering how does the wletkrieg start

[manic iris]

i legit planed out war tactics for a country im not a war with

[fading elk]

Tension is kinda high at 43ish % rn

[split fulcrum]

It is very complicated

[haughty bison]

The early game of hoi4 is about economy and preparation for war

If you want to start the game near war time
Start at 1939

[manic iris]

long live the emperor

[split fulcrum]

Aw hell nah

[elder bronze]

Did anybody here played democratic China? What is their foreign policy content in the endgame, from focus descriptions I have impression that they liberate Asia from European colonisers, but how they do so? Do they do this peacefully or by war, if by war, if by war, is there scripted peace or you will need to march all way to London?

[manic iris]

im thinking abt a new save to make the holy roman empire

[split fulcrum]

Maybe think about learning the game first

[heavy vigil]

its not gonna be that easy

but sure go try

[manic iris]

alr im making a new save and watching a tutorial cuz why tf does poland have 20 front lines

[haughty bison]

I hope you enjoy the struggle in the upcoming days/weeks

[split fulcrum]

Theres a tutorial btw

[heavy vigil]

it sucks

[split fulcrum]

It doesnt teach much

[manic iris]

i also bought bannerlord thinking i would have time to play both

[heavy vigil]

the in game one

[split fulcrum]

But its decent

[haughty bison]

Ingame tutorial is a myth

[split fulcrum]

It puts you into an immediete war

[manic iris]

these tactics are tuff tho if i was in a war

idk what the offensive line is but its alright

[split fulcrum]

If

[heavy vigil]

btw you can speed the game up

top right or click +

• for lowering speed

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/diddy-blud-diddy-blud-jelly-bean-mango-gif-9627811804726875651

[heavy vigil]

i usually play on 3-4 speed

[heavy vigil]

i typed that 😔

[manic iris]

holy shi days are going by in seconds

[split fulcrum]

5 speed for those who want adrelarine

[split fulcrum]

It does that

[buoyant wedge]

thank you for sharing casey

[split fulcrum]

• e

[manic iris]

ok i reached the spanish civil war

[buoyant wedge]

send volunters

[heavy vigil]

i can show you how to do a playthrough sometime if youd like?

[buoyant wedge]

and airforce with it

[manic iris]

WHAAAT IS HAPPENING

[manic iris]

Yes plez

[sharp sierra]

u did the civil war

[split fulcrum]

He completed the focus

[heavy vigil]

now or later?

[manic iris]

uh

[buoyant wedge]

why doesnt norway have any coal deposits

[manic iris]

maybe now ill see if i got time

im wining

[split fulcrum]

❌ this guy is NOT winning

[buoyant wedge]

sure you are bud

[manic iris]

what

[haughty bison]

Don't worry we all went through this

[manic iris]

i won

wait no

[elder bronze]

What nationalist China is better to play: historical or democratic?

[haughty bison]

Why not try both?

[buoyant wedge]

ask chatgpt

[elder bronze]

I cannot play both at the same time.

[elder bronze]

AI opinions are irrelevant.

[sharp sierra]

ur AI

[split fulcrum]

Woah, ai racism here????

[haughty bison]

No like 2 different saves :v

[elder bronze]

No u

[heavy vigil]

just hmu when you want to

[manic iris]

how long do ya think it will aprox take

or wait leme do some studying then ill mssg u

i deleted my save

[molten pasture]

About 3-4 hours for a full run, maybe more if there is a lot of explaining

Although you don't have to win the war to get an understanding of how the game works

[heavy vigil]

just whenever you have plenty of time idk

[hollow narwhal]

iceland 💀

damn they had poeple on copenhagen 😭

copenhagen

[heavy vigil]

7 divisions? impressive

[heavy vigil]

make them walk out

if you use a ship (which you can spawn in with focus tree) you can check where their divs are

when theyre out of enough vps you make sure to pin the one closest to copenhagen and land on the other vps

or otherwise land first 2 tiles away making the unit move out of the city

afterwards you can drop in

[hollow narwhal]

💀 maybe ill get bornholm

i got faroe islands lmao

[supple summit]

Sup lads

anyone know how do i actually annex a puppet as a minor nation?

[dim hazel]

WHATS BETTER FOR MONARCHIS GERMANY PRIORITIZE ECONOMIC GROWTH OR 4 YEAR PLAN

[buoyant wedge]

build stuff in them then click manage subjects and supress the autonomy

[supple summit]

I always choose prioritize economic growth

[buoyant wedge]

i like prioritize economic growth

[ripe slate]

No Step Back is overrated and this DLC underrated

[supple summit]

Building stuff in them is impossible for me basically lol as rn im playing communist cuba in the Kaiserredux mod

and i basically have no consumer good factories

1 free btw

[buoyant wedge]

then do this one

[dim hazel]

Whats the diffrence between prioritize economic growth and four year plan

[buoyant wedge]

it takes along time tho

bottom right

[supple summit]

oh yeah forgot abbout those

i never do those

[clever sigil]

What is the coal mechanic

Sounds oddly specific

[buoyant wedge]

theyre good but dont prioritze them

[ripe slate]

I feel like No Step Back isnt that much better than BBA, it just got luckier with countries

[buoyant wedge]

no step back gave tank designer

and people love tanks

[ripe slate]

BBA gave air designer and peace options

(latter should probably be free imo cuz theyre quite strong)

[buoyant wedge]

yeah

some things should be part of the base game

[haughty bison]

Let's be honest no step back will take a while before it becomes base game

[tropic wind]

true

[haughty bison]

Overwhelming positive? Wasnt it negative a couple of days ago?

[haughty bison]

Yep that's what i remember seeing

[tropic wind]

yes

paradox cooked hard with NCNS

[tulip thorn]

While this dlc is very overhated

No step back is the best dlc ever

[tropic wind]

something that nobody asked for

[tulip thorn]

Its not a bad mechanic

Its just done bad with how the coal is distributed

[haughty bison]

Looking at you USA

[tulip thorn]

Italy and the balkans need more

[haughty bison]

We should put all the coal in tana tuva

[tropic wind]

it just doesn't add any value , just more stuff to worry about , annoying mechanics arent welcome

[tulip thorn]

Its not that bad

[haughty bison]

I think coal is simply a prelude to smth bigger

[ripe slate]

Best branch is free, tank designer isnt relevant if you dont wanna make intentionally bad designs

[tropic wind]

i feel like they just rushed it

[ripe slate]

Poland isnt bad at all, but its mostly just a tree where you ask for free land...

[haughty bison]

Well yh obviously but didn't say they gonna fix it in a patch or smth?

[haughty bison]

Free land is good
Have you seen the prices in this economy XD

[ripe slate]

Yeh they gonna rebalance it a bit

[tropic wind]

just make oil produce energy and call it

[tulip thorn]

With poland, to reform the entire polish Lithuanian commonwealth you still need to go to war with the ussr

Thats something

[ripe slate]

Switzerland's expansion is literally asking for all the Alps and getting them without resistance...

[tulip thorn]

The swiss tree is garbo

[haughty bison]

Tbh fighting the swiss is annoying with all the mountains

[tulip thorn]

I dont want to hear anyone even attempt to defend it

[haughty bison]

To lazy to build mountainers

[ripe slate]

Yeh Swiss defensive buffs are insane

[haughty bison]

They should add a special project that let you convert factory from coal to oil or smth

[tropic wind]

https://tenor.com/view/dekeskui-dekeskoui-gif-20086792

[ripe slate]

Finland is quite OP if you only look at the stats but still easy to beat for a player

[tulip thorn]

Finland is so op when a player is playing it

[ripe slate]

^^

[tropic wind]

or add more energy rss

[tulip thorn]

The finland ai doesnt make good units, or enough of them to be an issue

[ripe slate]

I prefer how it is in Road to 56, very easy Poland-Lithuania, it basically elevates you to a major so you can play like one for the rest of the game

[tulip thorn]

No bias ofc

[lethal venture]

we need a few majors for a lobby dm me if interested

[tulip thorn]

I havent played r56 in so long

[ripe slate]

What a preposterous suggestion, good sir

[molten pasture]

Haven't seen mp findland

[tulip thorn]

[tropic wind]

do you think the usa focus tree rework will come before gta 6 or after ? before after ❌

[haughty bison]

When was the gta 6 new releases date?

[ripe slate]

2027?

[tropic wind]

Nov 2026

a year from now

[ripe slate]

Who wants to bet itll be delayed /s

[haughty bison]

I think usa rework will happen

[haughty bison]

If it was delayed again people will riot

[tropic wind]

we should delay buying it till after another year , lil bit of trolling

[tulip thorn]

I would rather the game not be a buggy mess than release sooner

[haughty bison]

Same but the way rockstar is handling the release is a mess

[tulip thorn]

The mess would be bigger if the game was unplayable at launch 💀

[haughty bison]

It would've been better if they said nothing or didn't give a date

[haughty bison]

Rockstar will be burned down

And people will be killed

[tropic wind]

https://tenor.com/view/simpso-riot-gif-4545300067745410584

[sleek scroll]

Yo guys

[haughty bison]

So many people will probably take vacation that the economy will get hit
Similar to how it happened to star wars

[sleek scroll]

How do i stop japs as commie china in hoi4,m

[haughty bison]

Keep throwing people at them

Eventually you will win

[sleek scroll]

Lowkey dream

[sleek scroll]

idk what to focus,getting along with neighbours,or remove debuffs

[haughty bison]

Which ironically if gta6 fail the AAA companies will also be affected

[stray pulsar]

chat should i invite em to my factio

i rlly need some allies

[haughty bison]

Personally i will go remove debuff and anex neighbour

Or make a save and try both path

[sleek scroll]

How about i get along with my neighbours and build forts and focus on dispursed industry research?

so i dont worry about enemy air superiority

[haughty bison]

Or just build fighters and ignore cas

[sleek scroll]

yeah damage from CAS isnt actually that big,but the thing is,they bring both fighters and CAS

[sudden thistle]

No

[haughty bison]

Yh just fighters to deny the jap air sup

[wet spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/midnightgif300-gif-1342012341207187635

[haughty bison]

And maybe cheese with para?

[haughty bison]

Biblically accurate zhukov

[sleek scroll]

Yknow what,
i will make neighbours YİPPİEEE
builts forts
Then train juntûan forces

[wet spoke]

im so tired

[sleek scroll]

btw,guys

i broke up with my gf right after i started to hoi4 🥀

[haughty bison]

I dont know if i should laugh or not

[sleek scroll]

i mean,not related to hoi4 tho,i had it coming

thats all i can say

[haughty bison]

Just a funny coincidence

[clever sigil]

Invite Japan for shits and giggles

[sleek scroll]

invite afganistan

[clever sigil]

Why?

[clever sigil]

Invite Catalonia

[sleek scroll]

im in village rn,didnt bring laptop

[haughty bison]

Invite usa to the Chinese united front

[clever sigil]

Ah
Fortunately this isn't a season pass based slop

[cunning phoenix]

Everyone wants smth from daddy germany

[sleek scroll]

Ladies,one at a time!

[haughty bison]

Is that communist france and monarchist Britain both working together? Tf is happening in that game

[cunning phoenix]

A lot of things

Most important one being german supremacy

[haughty bison]

Screenshot?

[cunning phoenix]

This is Europe right now

And ive been plastering germany with nuclear research facilities

[hasty bear]

THIS IS TOTAL CHAOS

[cunning phoenix]

Mr international

Gotta fight everywhere

[hasty bear]

Germany declared on the Chinese faction, then on Tanu Tuva and Mongolia

and then I declared on Spain

[haughty bison]

Jesus

[haughty bison]

Its always the Chinese

[sleek scroll]

imagine tanu tuva nukes germany

[final hill]

can somone gift me hoi4 on stem ples i am veri brok plis i hav no mones

[coral girder]

Be angry w me all you want but Fascist Britian is the most easiest for a World Conquest

[sleek scroll]

how about fascist philipphines

[coral girder]

How 💔💔💔

Ragebait tbf

[gaunt thorn]

Coal is so annoying

[coral girder]

Fr

[gaunt thorn]

Why does soviet union have so little?

Disproportionally small amount

[coral girder]

Also the new nukes way is so annoying too

[gaunt thorn]

What happend to nukes

[silk furnace]

new nukes????

wdym new nukes?

[coral girder]

No like the old before gotterdammerung

[silk furnace]

ohh

yeah those were gold

tactical nuke on airports was soo fun

[gaunt thorn]

Oh, the new nukes is good imo

Takes a bit too long tho

[silk furnace]

unpopular opinion

[coral girder]

Now i have to click 28464728 things just to launch ONE nuke

[silk furnace]

i respect that

[coral girder]

Whats the best focus tree by far

In yall opinion

[silk furnace]

in its time italy had the best one

i remember bba coming out

it was so hype

ussr rework is also goated

[coral girder]

For me its bulgaria cuz small country in the old times having a monster pack is crazy

[coral girder]

Fr

[silk furnace]

tru

[coral girder]

Unpopular opinion but old hungarian focus tree is fire

[silk furnace]

i really liked the old japan

[silk furnace]

just look at my name

[stray pulsar]

bro how did he respawn

[coral girder]

Same 60 stability eith the showa

[silk furnace]

second times the charm

[coral girder]

Rise up from the Dead ahh

[silk furnace]

the french tree is way too bad tho

and we can all agree on that i think

[tacit dune]

I haveover 276 hoursingame and still dont know how tanks work, is this normal

[silk furnace]

make tank put oil broom broom it works

trust

[tacit dune]

How do I design the tank and howto use it strategically

[silk furnace]

u use the tank as the linebreaker, and u well break defensive positions, you counter the enemy tanks and you make encirclements

[silk furnace]

single or multiplayer?

[tacit dune]

Single player, btw my entire hoi4 life I have just infantry spammed (ive also made planes! :D)

[stray pulsar]

WJAT

when did they add ts

[silk furnace]

just try to max out soft attack as much as you can and maybe have some breakthrough

[dense igloo]

Just got the House of Kurds achievement while starting as kurdistan

that was miserable

[haughty bison]

Never say that before maybe a rare event or a bug

[paper echo]

if you take too long to finish civil war silesia rises up

[zealous pecan]

so easy to cap js snake

[paper echo]

true

[lilac atlas]

The doctrine rework is amazing especially if u want man power 😭

[paper echo]

i love it so much

[zealous pecan]

tweaking out trying to mirror a Vijoplays japan tutorial

[paper echo]

and it makes line artillery actually worth it

[lilac atlas]

Fr

[zealous pecan]

desperate defense soviet union play is going to be crazy

[obtuse lodge]

does anyone have a greece guide that still works

[lilac atlas]

Rs

[zealous pecan]

im js waiting for them to update greece

[paper echo]

https://youtu.be/eT9wffjPMvk?si=oMj3Ppby11P5rqQS try that

[obtuse lodge]

i tried it

failed

[paper echo]

damn

[zealous pecan]

yea most greece guides suck bc they mostly RNG

[obtuse lodge]

keep trying to get turkey to naval invade but it just wont for like 3 restarts

[paper echo]

bro i played as greece on non hist and as i started pushing turkey they joined the stupid stressa front

[paper echo]

i crashed out so bad that i made a mod which removed that focus

[zealous pecan]

wouldnt light tanks work for early sino-japanese war against china

[paper echo]

that sounds amazing

[zealous pecan]

trying to do ana ctual good japan run historical

[paper echo]

doesnt fully remove but decreases coal usage a lot

[obtuse lodge]

does anyone have recommendations for fun minor nations that dont take insane skill or rng?