hoi4-general

[tepid crown]

No?
No one’s going to know because most people don’t use mods for stuff like that since it’s already too complicated for most people to understand

[misty fossil]

which is why those numbers exist

and if you did notice thats why i asked casey because she know what she says

[gilded smelt]

why da hail is

the guangxi joint focus tree

appearing on my screen when focuses complete

when i'm playing sinkiang

[slim nexus]

Vanilla or kaiserreich/redux

[tulip thorn]

You must play kaiserredux and do texas kaiser path

[slim nexus]

Ok i sure

[misty fossil]

bruh

[leaden mulch]

Wild

Didn't know that Germany had a pure red flag

[tulip thorn]

Theres a tiny bit of white right there

Only a tiny but

[torpid arch]

so im in 1946, how tf do i remove this god awful spirit??

[leaden mulch]

Read the focus tree

And decisions

[torpid arch]

at least try to make ur ragebait good

low hanging fruit ahh ragebait

[leaden mulch]

Ts not ragebait🥀

Genuinely just read

[hollow narwhal]

they REALLY wanted to give a reason to play the philippines lmao

[leaden mulch]

Yeah...

The phillipines have a schizo tree but not mongolia🥀

[brave oracle]

continuation of what exactly?

[leaden mulch]

This is why I manually justify on finland and puppet them

[hollow narwhal]

very balanced LMAO

25pp to core spain

hmmmmmm

[icy crescent]

Russia took parts of Finland.
So Finland half-joined Germany.
Even if you don't take parts from Finland, the continuation war will be a thing.

[leaden mulch]

True

[wise hawk]

whats considered the strongest country in hoi4?

[leaden mulch]

Mid-Late Game is America

Germany is the strongest tho

[icy crescent]

Germany and Japan don't start with hard debuffs.

• fascist (excluding last patch) - so early beef.

[tulip thorn]

Germany

Germany and usa are sandbox mode

[leaden mulch]

True

[tulip thorn]

France and Italy are the hardest majors

[leaden mulch]

Germany with AAT and no other dlcs is sandbox mode😭

[leaden mulch]

I'm not so sure ab italy

[tulip thorn]

Japan is a nice middle ground

[brave oracle]

when did russia took parts of finland

[tulip thorn]

For a new player italy is pretty hard

Bad army, navy and air debuffs

Starts at war

[icy crescent]

Winter war.
Shortly after taking parts of Poland.
On historical.

[leaden mulch]

I can see it but imo UK is hardest

In MP

[tulip thorn]

Uk is kinda hard if your new I guess

The uk is easier than france and italy because its an island with big navy at the start

[icy crescent]

UK has to defend a huge chunk of the world.

[leaden mulch]

This

If you want to win in Africa there has to be a good Uk player

[tulip thorn]

Are we talking about single player or mp now

Because in mp, uk soviets and france are really hard

Soviets are made to die in mp

[leaden mulch]

"Best soviet player can not counter a good axis"

[icy crescent]

Of course it always boils down to the players.

[tulip thorn]

Indeed

[misty fossil]

they are quite literally on fire rn

so much for the stiff upper lip

[tulip thorn]

But a really good axis is going to shred the ussr

I've had games where the soviets hold really good, and really bad

But overall the soviets do just die

[leaden mulch]

Yep

[hollow narwhal]

realistic production line 🤣

[tepid crown]

Even best Sov players, if against axis that are also good skilled will only survive until around mid 1942

[tulip thorn]

Soviets always just need to hold long enough for the allies to launch a d day

[hollow narwhal]

so like ..

NAHH this is hilarious
i core spain before spain cored spain

[tulip thorn]

Lmao

Just like how spain can core Portugal before coring all of spain

[steel mica]

@split kelp

[tepid crown]

Allies use to be able to DDay in early/mid 1941. Not sure now since dlc though

[wicked haven]

USSR is way too strong atm it seems

[torpid arch]

the uk is unreal bruh

[wicked haven]

Unless German ai is worse

[slim nexus]

Is this ai uk

[torpid arch]

yes bro

im playing against the infinity gauntlet of a faction

[steel mica]

@split kelp

[torpid arch]

every major except germany in 1 faction

[hollow narwhal]

💀

[misty fossil]

why cant i patrol the english channel to gain dominance

[hollow narwhal]

maybe no fuel or u need more ships

[misty fossil]

i have more that enough ships

[brave oracle]

Which I didn't do
So the fact that finland joins the war against me is bs

[hollow narwhal]

well idk this dlc reset my navy skill 💀

"skill"

[brave oracle]

rate the encirclement chat

[icy crescent]

It is.
But it is.

[opal nymph]

Patrol the channel

[wise hawk]

If a faction leader falls, do the faction members fall too?

[misty fossil]

i had to use my main battlefleet to do that

apparently cant do it with my scouting force

[opal nymph]

Depends if there are majors remaining

[tulip thorn]

Only if they are the only major

[icy crescent]

If the leader is the only major, yes.
If there are other major countries, no.

[opal nymph]

Yeah, patroling with your main battle fleet builds up dominance quickly

[wise hawk]

oh alr ty

[fickle cove]

GENUINELY not for me though

but that's bc i'm bad at the game

[opal nymph]

Just remembered it is after Thanksgiving, so it is Christmas time

[misty fossil]

what do they mean by this

[opal nymph]

Holy smokes, what kind of carrier battle is this

7 carriers vs 30

[misty fossil]

their last stand apparently

[opal nymph]

the penalty must be awful

[misty fossil]

they just clumped up into the english channel

actually no

I SANK 18 CARRIERS

[tulip thorn]

Why does sinkiang always end up as a soviet puppet on historical lol

[opal nymph]

This probably explains why my patrol fleets were very good at building dominance quickly

[opal nymph]

How does London have so many slots

[misty fossil]

50 slots mod

[wise hawk]

when is a good time to stop building civs?

[misty fossil]

now

[tulip thorn]

For most nations as soon as 38 hits

[wise hawk]

what about germany

[tulip thorn]

Germany should be making mills from the start of the game except for in the rhineland. In the rhineland you build civs and infra so you can get the research slot

[slim nexus]

My favorite thing to do is invade random country and disable their railways and delete all factories then release them independent again

[wispy grove]

Guys is playing china in 1936 worth it

[opal nymph]

Germany usually doesn't build a single civ

[opal nymph]

It is an experience

1939 is more of an experience

[wispy grove]

Ok

Cool

Îl see

[opal nymph]

I would rate it 30k gun deficit out of 10

China is where you learn the importance of production efficiency

[wise hawk]

if when playing germany you were to have better relations with austria are they more likely to accept?

[tulip thorn]

In historical they will always accept

Its been awhile since I have seen them say no in alt hist aswell

Axis air is insane

[tepid crown]

Jan 1936

[wise hawk]

thanks g

[tulip thorn]

max buffed japan ai cant finish china

but can take Hawaii

[icy wyvern]

How do you make an like government in another country so they like get easier to surrender

[tepid crown]

What? Japan killed China in 1938 in my games and they’re not even buffed

[lucid roost]

my regular finished china in 37

[tulip thorn]

Do you have la resistance

[tulip thorn]

Really

Thats crazy

[tepid crown]

Yeah, they finish China off fast af

[tulip thorn]

This is max buffed japan so far

I might just make china lose

[tepid crown]

Ngl though Japan at last isn’t as bloated as Germany is after their dlc

[tulip thorn]

Because I want japan to be insanely strong

[icy wyvern]

Yes

Kind of have to know it pretty soon

[brave oracle]

sweden is not in the allies and didn't even have a positive opinion of me, but they still give me so much

hella based

[icy wyvern]

I’m doing the HRE and why the heck is everyone becoming communist

[tulip thorn]

If you go hre as germany with historical focuses on

Several nations will always go communist

like france

[icy wyvern]

Yeah but how do make an government in other country?

Is the HRE part hard tho?

[tulip thorn]

?

[tepid crown]

Who are you

[tulip thorn]

Like collab government

[tulip thorn]

soviets

[icy wyvern]

Yes

[tulip thorn]

Max buffed axis

[tulip thorn]

You need to build a network in the nation you want one in

[icy wyvern]

Ha France got an civil war as fascist suck it

[tepid crown]

I do battleplan Soviet build and crush axis in Europe in like 2 months

[icy wyvern]

Yeah but my spy always dies

[tulip thorn]

Thats what I normally do

[tepid crown]

400 35.2w Soviet infantry divisions go brrrrt

[tulip thorn]

Doing that is only fun so many times

[tepid crown]

I mean it’s more fun than tanks because normal ai doesn’t even make decent tanks for it to matter

[tulip thorn]

True

[leaden mulch]

35.2w no longer exists unless on previous patch

[tulip thorn]

35.7 💔

[frank zodiac]

svenska

[surreal ether]

What is the point of the Border Conflicts mechanic

[tulip thorn]

Chinese warlords and communist china can gain land from winning one

[fierce mist]

Whats yalls recommendetion for nation and path (i cant do navy btw)

[tulip thorn]

Albania albania path

[fierce mist]

Också svensk

[surreal ether]

How are you supposed to play it
Virtually every time I've tried it's ended in defeat because the battle is virtually unwinnable

[leaden mulch]

Poland Bermont or Polish bear

[fierce mist]

Ah hell no not poland im not blittersteel maybe new dlc asia

have no idea what path is fun

[tulip thorn]

idk

[surreal ether]

Bweh

[bronze mango]

Steal land without a full out war

[frank zodiac]

Är du svensk?

[surreal ether]

But how do you win them

[bronze mango]

With good divisions

Preferably with a lot of soft attack

[fierce mist]

"Också svensk" hmmmm

Ja

Tips på path för kina?

[frank zodiac]

hmmmmm

[copper sluice]

what will "industrial research speed" buff?

[frank zodiac]

I vilket Kina spelar du?

[copper sluice]

bro is swedish

[fierce mist]

vanliga nya dlcn

[leaden mulch]

36w spacemarine

[tulip thorn]

America has landed in the Philippines again, I guess japan can keep hawaii

[mellow jetty]

Kai-Shek om man vill bli gankad av japanerna

I just recently played Kai-Shek, it was intense lol

[frank zodiac]

Jag behöver veta vilken sida Kina står på: det riktiga Kina, kommunistpartiet eller nordvästra armén.

Vilken sida

[hot patrol]

gang should i be weird and put armoured cars in my divisions

[fickle island]

how would one ever defeat brazil i just dont have enoguh manpower and they are far superior how would i ever catch up

[frank zodiac]

Occupy the remaining countries in South America or form an alliance with them.

[snow rain]

all techs on this screen (except fuel refinery stuff, oil should be included in the buff)

[kindred briar]

Playing the dlc and idk what I did but shes in charge now

[frank zodiac]

no way

[kindred briar]

I just clicked a button

who is she

[frank zodiac]

idk

who is she?

[past pasture]

bro

why does norway have so much dominance

[kindred briar]

Chiang Kai-shek wife

still idk how shes here but yippe?

[open scaffold]

I've seen a lot of hate for the spy dlc but it seems cool to me. what does everyone think about it?

[copper sluice]

where is the strait of hormuz

[gentle marsh]

why do i keep getting a 2nd civil war in america

im ukraine

[candid pecan]

yo

can someone play mp with me and guide me on how to beat ussr

[mellow jetty]

Evil-Chinese-TV-Drama-Stepmom

[fickle island]

i thought only same party could be in a faction

im facist chile and got an invite to allies

[fringe lava]

I cant believe I wasted money on this new dlc.

[wheat copper]

me

[wheat copper]

why?

[fringe lava]

Again they give us a half baked product with lots of issues and is ball busting levels of difficult I should have known after Graveyard of Empires not to get things on release day or preorder but to wait.

Im sure some love it

I mean the changes to factions is nice though.

[novel otter]

man i thought this new hoi4 DLC was gonna be as good as No step back but man it was quite disappointing

[fringe lava]

More like please take it back, this time.

[past pasture]

I hate you japan

[fringe lava]

I mean Gotterdammerung was a good dlc but prior to that the last really good one was Arms against Tyranny.

They release a steaming pile and then want praise and more money and we give it to them because they spend all the budget on advertising, and concept art.

[zealous junco]

Anyone else have a bug where volunteers won't return?

[bronze mango]

I do like how factions arent as rigid as they used to be

[fickle island]

whats a good tank division combat width

[bronze mango]

Around 30

[fringe lava]

Agreed

[obtuse lodge]

whats the best garrison for non aligned?

[opal nymph]

I do local police force and call it a day

[clear dagger]

child labor

[bronze mango]

Local police force like with any ideology

Minus local autonomy for capitalism of course

[native pewter]

spent like 5 minutes making this

[unkempt zodiac]

may god help anyone who is bound to a minor country

this took WAY too long 😭

[vague abyss]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3614080182 (posting for vc)

[lone sail]

The sun is setting

I kicked the Japanese out of the Philippines while only controlling palawan

I had 11 ships during my capitulation and I destroyed their convoys

[neat kayak]

supp chat

anyone for coop?

[clear dagger]

im bound to luxembourg

[sage plover]

holy i love mountaineers so much

i dont like being stuck on 3 research slots permanently

[unkempt zodiac]

i see you bro 😭

[sage plover]

that i really could do without

[dusky burrow]

lmao

[unkempt zodiac]

i literally had to steal navies of 9 different nations just to do sea lion

[dusky burrow]

true

[sonic sand]

right?

[sage plover]

mapuche path makes me want to both find the location of all tall local bridge's. and also throw a party

i have never been so conflicted in my life

[native pewter]

sent volunteers to italy and this is the first time in my life i have ever seen the AI use railway guns

[sage plover]

oooh they get that from the communist focus tree during the civil wa

war

[native pewter]

do they just not build them otherwise? that kinda sucks

tbh i like using railway guns every once in a while

[thick kettle]

Cat

[thick kettle]

what the hell

never seen that before

[sage plover]

as mapuche are raillway guns worth it?

or should i invest in other stuff

[dusky burrow]

yes

i mean you don't need them for conquering your neighbors, but they are essential late game

[sage plover]

alr

and i assume getting a decent airforce is dead in the water? ,/3

[obtuse lodge]

just got a resistance warning is that ok? compliance is low too

[trail beacon]

is this a jojo reference?

[bronze mango]

It generally doesn't really matter,

[dire oxide]

hey fellas any idea why the naval invasion isnt launching?

[bronze mango]

However in case you can use spies to reduce resistance

[zealous junco]

Yooo I had this same bug but with 8 motorized divisions to Italy

kinda game breaking

[warped flint]

how do I give myself a state

[obtuse lodge]

buildings are getting destroyed

[obtuse lodge]

no dlc

[bronze mango]

Do you have enough equipment in garrison?

[obtuse lodge]

no

[brave fjord]

how is the elephant 3d model graphical bug not fixed after all these months 😭

[warped flint]

I do this but it just doesnt work

[bronze mango]

That is why resistance is high

Not much you can do other than produce more equipment

[surreal ether]

Are you supposed to be able to win the 6th Encirclement Campaign

[bronze mango]

Yes

Theoretically

[obtuse lodge]

how does this work?

[surreal ether]

What would by the strat

[brave fjord]

How do you do mughal india? When trying to do the revolt of the princes I get put at war with the UK again because the raj is still a puppet

[opal nymph]

Claim the states you want

[obtuse lodge]

do i need all 3 ticks or only 1?

[opal nymph]

Not sure, I know you will have to compete with the others

I assume just make sure your flag is shown

[ivory schooner]

tips of playing the new japan?

[vague abyss]

am i being dumb

[unique acorn]

i think your onto something

keep going

[vague abyss]

im getting 0 grind on it

[ivory schooner]

or on something idk

[vague abyss]

idk i think im on something

[unique acorn]

idk bro 1936 germany with 3 divisions is good

[vague abyss]

oh its just a dream u can only land raid in china

[clear dagger]

you need to fight to get xp for it

[runic spoke]

look at the icon of the division

the icon is a light tank

[unique acorn]

WHERE ARE UR GENERALS??

[runic spoke]

that means it counts as a tank division

not a cavalry division

[clear dagger]

the icon doesnt matter

[unique acorn]

WHAT ARE U COOKING BRO

[runic spoke]

you will not give cav xp

[warped flint]

Am I doing anything wrong with this

[vague abyss]

don't worry about it

[runic spoke]

the icon itself doesnt matter but by looking at it you can tell its classified as an armored division

the game treats it as an armored division so you will only get tank xp for it

you will not get cav leader with that division

[clear dagger]

you need at least 40% of your division to be cav motorized or mech

[ivory schooner]

ok... first of all DO NOT contest on the dutch thing its not even worth it, second why do you have that fgew decisions third why is the nuke icon there

[clear dagger]

not the whole thing

[vague abyss]

its just a dream dw

[runic spoke]

no its

im pretty sure it was 40% of the divisions under the general

need to be cav mot or mech

[vague abyss]

just like my construction speed

[runic spoke]

not the division itself

[vague abyss]

ah yes the natural construction screen

[runic spoke]

replace some of the lights with horses

[clear dagger]

oh wait yeah youre right

i forgot

[ivory schooner]

may i perphaps ask why are you building naval facilities

[runic spoke]

its a weird thing imo. idk why a division thats 60% horse and 40% tank doesnt give xp from both but paradox moment ig

[ivory schooner]

fair

[brave fjord]

is the mughal path just constant war with the uk?

[vague abyss]

but im more then 40% cavalry

[runic spoke]

no

so like

when it says 40%

its 40% of the divisions you have under that general

so if you had like, 4 cavalry divisions and 6 infantry divisions under that general

you would get cav leader xp

[vague abyss]

ah

[runic spoke]

the problem is 100% of the divisions under that general

are technically light tank armored divisions

you can tell by looking at the default icon of the division

which is a light tank

so you're only gonna get panzer leader experience using that template

[vague abyss]

its ok

[runic spoke]

if u really want cav leader just replace 3 of the light tank battalions with horses

that should be enough

[vague abyss]

ur kinda yapping, keep talking and ill land raid warsaw

no poland for u

[worn coral]

guys

[vague abyss]

gj

[worn coral]

how do i get the little land from yugoslavia to reform austria hungary?

[vague abyss]

I haven't even done any mefo focuses and i got a bunch of the mil speed

[worn coral]

tumon

what do i do

[opal nymph]

War

[worn coral]

not enough world tension

[vague abyss]

wdym

[worn coral]

and i dont wanna fight france

[vague abyss]

manually lift their garuntee or wait it out

[opal nymph]

Already did the demand land focus?

[vague abyss]

ur in 38

they ungaruntee yugo in like 39

[opal nymph]

38

Late 38

[vague abyss]

yea

ts new faction stuff keeps making sweden deny trade treaty

[worn coral]

i did it

logistics are crying tho

[vague abyss]

W

[runic spoke]

what is going on in poland

least braindead hist ai off hoi4 game fr

[worn coral]

idk

[vague abyss]

real

hes learning

let the man learn

[worn coral]

for some reason the russians just took half of it

wdym learning

i just never played austria before

for some reason i unlearned to play the game

after not playing it for a day

[cosmic jay]

wtf how is there no mod that removes "unit organization is too low to advance"

now i have to actually edit game files

[worn coral]

holy skill issue

it just gets worse

[surreal ether]

I'm having some success letting the Red Army pour into Xi'an but leave their capital undefended

But I still have to get Yulin

[fringe shell]

ahh yes new dlc i cant use my navy

[wanton whale]

Yeah they screwed navy up so hard

[vague abyss]

the gestapooo mmm

[vague abyss]

i wish u could still see like ur supremecy value tho

like 30% etc

[wanton whale]

the hell do they mean my navy that has 100,000 projected power can't get superoity in a lake with 1 destroyer

Until i kill that destroyer

[wanton whale]

like you use to? yeah

[vague abyss]

like still keep the naval dominance but those are just massive number games, i still wanna know what my fleet supremecy would still be that way I know if its worth putting the fleet there

[wanton whale]

I'm too democratic for that

[fringe shell]

yeah i played germany i wanted to invade UK and i see i need 216000 ships power or sum

[snow rain]

CTRL + Rclick on your port
OR
click this button

it isn't borken

[wanton whale]

Yeah 😭

[wanton whale]

😭

[wanton whale]

Oh i did that for my navy

[vague abyss]

like if im there i got decent dominance with 50 ships but then theres a massive more dominance on their side, idk how that is therefore if they got 200 ships my 50 are cooked

[wanton whale]

game still wasn't gaming ^w^

[wanton whale]

Ok but like cmon

[snow rain]

if you click the button and didn't assign missions then it's normal too

[wanton whale]

Oh it did but the superiority for naval invasions didn't work until i killed every last ship

[snow rain]

that's probably because you weren't patrolling

strike force is now only a multiplier which gives little to no supremacy
you need patrols now

[wanton whale]

(That took forever)

[wanton whale]

Oh i was partrolling

(I had it on strike force while repair)

[snow rain]

when repairing you don't project any supremacy

[wanton whale]

ik

ik

[snow rain]

same as when you assign fleets with orders on "never engage"

[wanton whale]

I'm not new to the game

[wanton whale]

Yeah

I knew old navy meta

idk what new meta is though

[cedar coral]

what couldve ever happened here

[bronze mango]

Probably the same but I wouldn't know i hate meta

[wanton whale]

Mongolia

I declared war on mongolia

they joined 4th

I got pushed back into china

I slammed to vlad

And I counter attacked so hard

The soviets lost 90% of their divisions by the time I had reached Moscow

[astral forum]

Question, how does RT56 play after the new updates, especially in regards to coal? Is it done well or nah? Are there any countries that get really screwed over by it or is it all reasonable?

[hidden gull]

Is this a good tank template 1939 ger

[cedar coral]

i played rt56 yesterday im pretty sure the mobilization policy doesent take coal now

[astral forum]

Oh nice
I heard some countries in base game got absolutely screwed by the coal stuff is that still a thing in rt56 or is it better than base?

[cedar coral]

kinda better

[cedar coral]

encircle it 😎

[wanton whale]

Most nations got screwed over

[astral forum]

Alright, that's good

[wanton whale]

This was my coal for like 90% of the game

(Whole world conquered btw)

[cedar coral]

just dont build alot of factories

[wanton whale]

Oh i stopped building in 1950's

[cedar coral]

how do you havee 18m guns

isnt the limit 2.1mil?

[wanton whale]

I think they upped it

This was completely vanilla btw

idk if it was a bug

or smth

[cedar coral]

k

[brave oracle]

anti air does nothing to fighters/cas right?

only strategic bombers?

[opal nymph]

Support AA deals with CAS

[brave oracle]

oh my bad, i meant state building AA

[wanton whale]

Support AA deletes everything

[wanton whale]

State AA deletes everything too

State AA is better than support AA

[fading elk]

So how do stop Germany as monarchist Austria

I’ve done both paths the federation and the duchy paths

[opal nymph]

You want to steal your puppets troops

And hold the line

Support AA will be vital

[fading elk]

But in the former it takes too long to make them puppets and the later I was just unable to do the rest of the tasks for some reason? Like the game just prevented me from doing Poland, Albania’s and yugos ones once I got Hungary, Czechoslovakia and Romania

[fading elk]

Yep did that and got the Swiss+ and all their troops

In total I was 130 divs

Germany tho kinda just broke thru my forts and just steamrolled me in 3 months

[dusky burrow]

Lmao

[dusky burrow]

yeah forts are mostly useless if you got the right equipment

[trim fern]

erm this is gonna need to be fixed next update~

[warped flint]

help this wont work

I dont understand why

[ripe slate]

Youre supposed to click the state on the map you wanna transfer, no need to enter its ID

Or use toolpack

[hard grove]

Guys can I ask something, WHY IN THE HELL I CANNOT PERFORM ANY NAVAL INVASIONS AFTER THE NEW UPDATE

[vague abyss]

i published it btw! https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3614080182

seems to work fine

no issues

[ripe slate]

Nice

I think I can guess why the old one broke

[vague abyss]

yeah outdated building and gui files

appreciate it if u left a comment or used it though!

[ripe slate]

Thats a feature Ill only use if it gets readded to Road to 56 :p

So I wont look at your mod

[vague abyss]

It would be nice to see it in RT56, but tbh been playing sheeps mod for the last year, not really seen a reason to use road to 56 as all majors now have trees etc

[ripe slate]

Bugfixes alone are enough to use Road

Although I used my short time working for Paradox to get some ancient bugs fixed

[obtuse lodge]

why are my puppets raising their level and how do i reduce it

[vague abyss]

such as?

[ripe slate]

Hover over their autonomy, itll show what they gained it from

If it sais Country, its their focus tree

[ripe slate]

#latest-updates message

[obtuse lodge]

where?

[vague abyss]

ah nice, should code in what sheep did, but now where if u have one of the ministers like tojo etc at the bottom of the tree and u begin to lose and get the penalties if 2 nukes drop u get put into a peacedeal

[warped flint]

OOOOOHHHHHH

Ty

I was stuck in the focus tree

[vague abyss]

not sure how ur contract with paradox is but yeah

[ripe slate]

Im afraid to annoy devs with suggestions lol

[vague abyss]

lol once ur in the door u can't get out, also if u can recommend anything tell them that major countries etc not included in the dlc had no changes to navy facilities etc.

like when gotterdamerung dropped every DLC country had changes such as facility breakthrough/adding facilities in their tree but we didn't get it on any of the navy focuses for like germany, soviet union etc

and in the reconcile japan on the soviet tree theres not even one or two focuses for the sakhalin situation

which at a minimum I expected all of that to be added

but i mean ill settle for the warsaw pact focus ig 💔 we all know in 2027 after the allies and USA is reworked cold war DLC is next 😛

[ripe slate]

Id love to work on a cold war DLC, its my main area of interest in Road to 56

I ocassionally work on a 1945 scenario thats never going to be published, I just do it for the fun

Main hindrance is optimization

[vague abyss]

yeah, my struggle with that plan is the fact soviet war is not like a "ww2" situation theres no 6 year germany, prepping etc and war with many countries its literally just east V west so there would have to be a major update to diplomacy and civilian economy etc, perhaps even money/gdp added tbh

[ripe slate]

Late game years run like 6 times slower than 1937

[vague abyss]

yeah, its honestly hard to imagine a whole 1945/50 start date etc with the current mechanics

im just looking forward to the US election decisions they will add with the USA rework and the allies parliament mechanic and whatever they do for france

they better make france interesting

[ripe slate]

What feature would they put in a US DLC I wonder

[vague abyss]

Im putting money on a france and UK, yugoslavia/romania rework in the next one Q3 2026

[vague abyss]

theres an old historical mod I saw 2 years ago with the road to 56 sphere of influence screen added over the USA for every state and u had to flip states to be dem/rep and that effected the resulting party

[tacit crane]

they made the chinese debuff -50% attack and defense instead of the original waking the tiger -30%

[vague abyss]

which is 99% likely to be added in a USA rework imo

[ripe slate]

I kinda hope they completely ignore the conferacy if they do rework USA

cuz that only existed for slavery and that seems weird to have in HOI IV era

[tacit crane]

this new debuff defeats the purpose of going internal stability

[vague abyss]

Its a fun thing to keep as a releasable but not as content imop

[brave oracle]

what is the difference between production output cost and production output

[vague abyss]

lets gooo

refits in

[ripe slate]

TDs are stronger now because of the doctrine, right?

[vague abyss]

I had a talk with mordered on his personal stream the other day about it all too

[vague abyss]

very...

and also they made it so instead of 400 per div its like 300

they changed the amounts required per battallion

[tacit crane]

what is that model

[vague abyss]

so they got even more buffs

[tacit crane]

what kind of marder td is that

[vague abyss]

I would love to see the possibility of more animated stuff in HOI4, some new mods have appeared showing animated gifs etc being added now

but would be nice to see videos/animations added to the backgrounds etc

[ripe slate]

I have a very fun mod idea but I cant do it without some GUI voodoo

[icy crescent]

Do tell.

[ripe slate]

Nah itll ruin the surprise if i do figure it out

[icy crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/kiryu-desk-slam-kiryu-yakuza-angry-leaving-gif-14587684

[ripe slate]

theres basically no delay in the code rn I believe, so you cant really have sequences

[vague abyss]

u don't buy me dinner if ur not taking me to the bedroom man

[ripe slate]

What sort of saying is that lol

[vague abyss]

lmaoo

I wonder if ur work on czech will feature the similar austria stuff with the anchulus, flipping garrisons etc

i hope its not just a nice focus tree but clear and amazing different mechanics for it

[ripe slate]

I almost made a ship selling addition to the weapons market but scrapped it at 80% completion because the game cant distinguish between a super cheap midget submarine and a nuclear submarine with cruise missiles

[tepid crown]

Stronger which means more breakthrough is needed too

[vague abyss]

real

[vague abyss]

@ripe slate

[ripe slate]

I cannot comment on the Czech DLC for legal reasons

[vague abyss]

ofc

NDA

[wary folio]

To Do List.

1. Wake up at 3PM ✅
2. Get a Medium Meat Lovers Pizza and eat it ✅
3. Play Hoi4 until I Fall asleep (In progress)

[vague abyss]

so what cool features can u comment on that u are working on etc/adding?

[tepid crown]

You can always just dm us

We won’t tell

[vague abyss]

ofc

https://tenor.com/view/pinksviral-stantwt-ronaldo-coffee-camera-gif-9776165683302780260

[bold bloom]

When will they freaking patch this I own the freaking dlc

[ripe slate]

I can only comment on Road, to which I wanna add a decision category to get nukes with uranium and cooperation treaties etc

[bold bloom]

It won’t let me use my paid content

[vague abyss]

I would love to see an option to have trains use coal...

[ripe slate]

We cant mod that

Its hardcoded

Train reliability/efficiency would be cool because war trains could have a downside

[vague abyss]

like for low hour players an option for coal to only effect industry, but have an option to enable realistic coal where no coal = no trains no trains = no supply near railways and an option to manage ur energy output and what goes where

[deep reef]

anyone just want to vc maybe play a bit?

[ripe slate]

You could focus on reliable but expensive trains that last long and are more coal efficient

🔥

[vague abyss]

this is what I want to see added tho

like coal has 0 effect on ur military situation only industry

I also believe every major country's capital should have a few extra tiles around them and a static defense modifier for being the "capital" such as 15-20% defence, telling me we can't do operation downfall and protect berlin and its walked into like any other urban tile, also maybe a way to start a whole defence around certain tiles, costing coal but give a temporary buff to the state on a defence

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-silly-car-car-stare-10-thousand-yard-stare-10-thousand-yard-gif-14200271775968563996

well heres something to patch @ripe slate also the fact sweden in the new faction stuff keeps denying trade propositions to historical germany

how do I deal with a naval blockade btw

[ripe slate]

Break their naval supremacy with convoy raiding I guess

[fading elk]

So Italy surprise attack yugo in 38 for some reason

Don’t worry about Poland this just in a civil war

[vague abyss]

thoughts on this? @ripe slate

[ripe slate]

Not sure on that

[vague abyss]

well think about it this way, irl u had moscows defense, operation clausewitz for germany aka battle of berlin, we have modifiers for the soviet factory workers in moscow etc, but we don't have something similar to germany when it loses core states or anyway of defending a countries capital anymore then it is for a random urban state, aside from certain hardcoded stuff for like ussr etc

[dusky burrow]

oof italy's screwed

i see why italy attacked yugo

[fading elk]

I didn’t have as many troops on the border as I would have liked and I did give away the coast of yugo to buy time

But I got attacked a month later

[dusky burrow]

italy demanded dalmatia, which worsened relations with yugo, which then meant when italy demanded yugo submission it refused

[vague abyss]

I was considering adding some focuses to germany to add some operation clausewitz etc that gives u defensive focuses when u surrender progress

[fading elk]

I puppeted yugo and gave away that land, so I though I’d buy a year or two

[dusky burrow]

try to get the coast back ig

[fading elk]

Ya

Italy has so many crappy divs

[dusky burrow]

also if italy demands subjugation and yugo is in a faction italy can declare war too

[fading elk]

But I have to rely on my vassal swarm

[fading elk]

I kinda wish the game would tell u if your their overlord about itlay

[dusky burrow]

true

[fading elk]

It tells you if u own Czechoslovakia if Germany is prepping to annex

Even if their your puppet

[vague abyss]

would be nice to see a timer when refitting is estimated to be done too @ripe slate im sure u would agree?

[dusky burrow]

meanwhile germany is extra 4-year screwed

[ripe slate]

mhm

[fading elk]

Also idk why but Germany is still doing mefo bills despite the civil war

Tell me you have no economy without telling me you have no economy

[viscid swift]

im playing as the US the first time ever

i feel like i want to eat burgers and shout freedom

also im doing the manhattan project in 1936

[gilded river]

Ain’t no end game gonna stop me

[worn coral]

guys

is kaiserredux good?

i like kaiserreich but i want something simpler

[viscid swift]

depends what your playing

[worn coral]

austria hungary

i think

[viscid swift]

if u play as germany, prepare to have negative stability

[worn coral]

why?

[tepid crown]

Why not

[worn coral]

what about austria hungary

is it good?

austria is op in vanilla

[opal citrus]

YESS I TOOK BELIESE

THE BRITISH SPAMMED LIKE 20 DIVISIONS

[worn coral]

i feel bad for you

central america is crazy

[opal citrus]

its ez before you join the axis

and the british start spamming you with naval invasions and stack like 40 divisions on beliese

[meager valley]

Did you form centroamerica?

Kinda wish Centroamerica could core the Carribean too.

[buoyant lodge]

me when i

me when

me when i

[icy crescent]

Iron Wolf Lithuania got this.

[buoyant lodge]

why does my army do this

[meager valley]

Gotta change the cohesion

[buoyant lodge]

thanks

also how to prevent italy from stealing paris in this scenario

[meager valley]

Normally you would’ve wanted to take France before invading USSR

[opal citrus]

yeah

[meager valley]

Like invade through Benelux

[opal citrus]

why does this look so bright

[buoyant lodge]

yeah i know but this isnt historical

[buoyant lodge]

idk lol whenever i ss it becomes bright asf

LOL

[solemn hinge]

this might be a little op

[opal citrus]

oh yeah i get that sometimes too

[meager valley]

I just don’t get why you’d invade USSR before dealing with the allies. Normally you want to focus one

Bc you’re pretty exposed to allied bombing now

[buoyant lodge]

yeah that's true

but i'll win either way atp

soviet is about to collapse

ussr was in a civil war when me, hungary & japan declared

[meager valley]

Ah

[buoyant lodge]

o shi i thjink the grim reaper might be comingf for me son

[gaunt narwhal]

Bro

[viscid swift]

that brightness is...

[gaunt narwhal]

Yeah you are NOT making it out

[viscid swift]

how did u do that

how do you even do that

[gaunt narwhal]

How do you run out of guns bro

[viscid swift]

infantry eq?

like

[opal citrus]

just have like 2 mils on it

or 1 even

[viscid swift]

i get if u would get -3.2k fighter jets (definitly not from my experience)

[viscid swift]

exactly what u should never do

[buoyant lodge]

i wonder whats going on in western germany

[opal citrus]

bavaria is rebelling

https://tenor.com/view/bavaria-flag-gif-20741625

[buoyant lodge]

britain legit sold their empire

and become communist

[viscid swift]

wrong side of germany dumbass

[viscid swift]

my eyes

[buoyant lodge]

whats a badenwuttenbmermtegegr

[viscid swift]

definitly not bavaria

[opal citrus]

ik

do you not get a joke

[opal citrus]

every nonhis game ever:

[buoyant lodge]

fr

czech entente, soviet civil war and japanese shogunate

anyways i'm pushing through with no guns

they're throwing rocks at the soviets

but the soviets are lowk throwing rocks back

ah yes

[opal citrus]

the worst idea ever?

[buoyant lodge]

🧢

[viscid swift]

thats not real italy is NOT helping

[buoyant lodge]

only in nonhis ❤️

[viscid swift]

yeah i thought its common sense

[viscid swift]

not on my saves

[buoyant lodge]

is czechia also very influential

in your saves

[viscid swift]

no

[viscid swift]

what

the

hell

[buoyant lodge]

??

[viscid swift]

WHY IS IT CZECH

[buoyant lodge]

idk bro its legit the axis vs britain and czech entente

[viscid swift]

[viscid swift]

what did u do

[gaunt narwhal]

Hosting hearts of iron 4 lobbies Be needing people with balls of steels ngl

[buoyant lodge]

uhh

romania czechi and yugo formed their thingy

then i declared war cuz it was basically an anti-germany faction yk

and germany stroink early game

i added hungary and hungary basically did nothing but steal all of the territory

[viscid swift]

depends

[viscid swift]

W hungary

[gaunt narwhal]

Lmao YOU ARE NOT STRONG EARLY GAME

[buoyant lodge]

??

[viscid swift]

depends what he means by early game

maybe early game for him is 1939

[buoyant lodge]

my army brutally outsized theirs

i had like 3x their divisions in late 38

[gaunt narwhal]

What year are we talking

[viscid swift]

thats not early

[gaunt narwhal]

"Early game"

[buoyant lodge]

how is early game not when the war roughly starts

[gaunt narwhal]

Early game is 1936-1937

[viscid swift]

i'd say early game is before anschluss if ur germany

[gaunt narwhal]

Or yeah

[buoyant lodge]

alright

i've captured russias big three

with -16k guns

[meager valley]

Just stop battle planning for a bit

[viscid swift]

good that you have more mils

[meager valley]

18k isn’t a bad gun deficit

[viscid swift]

depends really

[meager valley]

For Germany it’s nothing

[viscid swift]

yeah true

if ur not stupid ofc

[meager valley]

Probably has 200k in the field

[buoyant lodge]

i have 1.2m

[meager valley]

I meant guns

[viscid swift]

guys would u say my friend is stupid for putting every dockyard into convoys when playing as gemrany

because i'd say yes personally

[buoyant lodge]

i always do that

[patent thistle]

navy in MC-

[buoyant lodge]

whats a navy lol

deficit boutta go away

[viscid swift]

the battleship if metal was never discovered

[buoyant lodge]

i'll start battleplanning afterwards

[patent thistle]

you mean "if metal was never made to float"

[meager valley]

I tend to put like 10-20 into subs then the rest into convoys

[viscid swift]

https://tenor.com/view/same-same-same-franco-similar-gif-10910641

[patent thistle]

not same thing

[viscid swift]

https://tenor.com/view/same-gif-8650053

[patent thistle]

swords did exist during the time wooden boats were used so not same thing, in your world we would still mostly wield stone

[viscid swift]

damn i just realized your nick just gave me wolfenstein flashbacks

[patent thistle]

bin halt deutsch

[meager valley]

Are you screenshotting or taking pics with your phone

[viscid swift]

if he is screenshotting im gonna shoot myself

the saturation

[buoyant lodge]

i'm screenshotting

dude legity

when i do win+s

it gets bright af

[meager valley]

Oh, is your computer saturation cranked up?

[buoyant lodge]

is this bad

oil boutta run out

[meager valley]

Can you just trade for some?

I’d rush those Russian oil fields

[viscid swift]

typical tbf, altho u should always make some rafineries

[buoyant lodge]

there are practiucally no divisions in the oil fields

we boutta win boys

btw

how do i make italy give me ile de france

[meager valley]

Yeah they never defend it

[viscid swift]

pretty sure that if u do the blietzkrieg propperly they never defend anything

ofc not on some very high difficulty

[buoyant lodge]

on god

[buoyant lodge]

whenever i invade ussr on normal diff as germany

they legit just die so fast

they have basically no defenses

[viscid swift]

they're russians

[meager valley]

Easier just saying

[buoyant lodge]

is there

less mountains there

[meager valley]

Port, supply hubs

[buoyant lodge]

ahh

oh my lord goodness skibidi toilet

i look away for one second and this happens

[meager valley]

Yeah you wanna defend your coast 😂

[wicked haven]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1180358879633223700/1303460132314677298/attachment-4.gif

[buoyant lodge]

if the ussr doesn't capitulate soon

i migh be cooked

the americans n brits r here

[viscid swift]

americans? yup ur cooked load the autosave

[buoyant lodge]

nvm

[buoyant lodge]

americans arent here yet 🙏

only horrible british divs

[viscid swift]

okay

thats great for u then

gotta cut em off from the coast

[buoyant lodge]

why is it problematic

if they arrive

and land

in germany

[buoyant lodge]

GUESS WHO WON

[meager valley]

You should be fine

Tbh though the Benelux has got to go

[short cape]

has everyones germany ai just been eating shit as of latley?

all my games since ncns germany hasnt made it to minsk

[valid whale]

French focuses take way too long. 70 days for 2 building slots in Vietnam to get to an extra research slot?

[meager valley]

Same

[bleak cradle]

whats a good marine template

[meager valley]

German AI being unproductive was also commented on prior to the dlc release by Mordred and he said they’d look into it (on stream)

[sharp sierra]

why is your screen so bright i need sunglasses

[ocean mirage]

the sun rose

too hard

[smoky hatch]

Does anyone know the event ID for the german occupation of France

Where do you establish Vichy France or occupy all france

[sharp sierra]

1234

[cerulean orchid]

imagine losing 1 million people to spain

italians also lost 600k because they naval invaded me like 5 times

[ocean mirage]

when the african union paradrops on berlin 😎

[round spindle]

oh i remember when france guaranteed japan

[royal timber]

Anyone have Stellaris and how difficult is it to learn like is just as Hard or Easier as hoi4

[bleak cradle]

way harder

i have 2k hrs and idk what im doing

[royal timber]

Lol alr ill try to learn it am still in my first 1k hours of Hoi4 and I somehow can't beat britian as Germany

[bleak cradle]

real

samke

[ocean mirage]

how bro just paradrop on dover and bring shock troops???

[dusky burrow]

careful near kuybyshev

[dusky burrow]

getting on britain tends to be the easy part

sustaining a force on britain is the hard part

[royal timber]

Thats always my issue

[ocean mirage]

not reaaaaaaally you just have to be somewhat early and have ethiopia still be a thing so they waste their troops over there

also you do the no convoy on every single sea and let ur convoys go only on english channel

[royal timber]

Wellll am not that good yk

[ocean mirage]

u can get a pretty fast blitzkrieg

[royal timber]

I have like maybe 100 hours

[bleak cradle]

just get thick mountaineer divs and keep convoys out of english channel for a bit more supply

[sudden thistle]

hm

[ocean mirage]

oh ok my bad i thought u were in ur 1k's

[dusky burrow]

do it

unless you're doing roman empire

[royal timber]

No am in my first 100

[dusky burrow]

or maybe even if you are doing the roman empire because your political power gain is just that good

[royal timber]

And I've heard it takes like 1k hours to learn the game

[bleak cradle]

not really

id say 250

500 to learn decent divs

[dusky burrow]

I mean if you're landing at dover you have to get supply from the english channel

[bleak cradle]

1k to be able to wc with mid tier nations

[royal timber]

Thats still a lot of hours

[bleak cradle]

oh i go from ipswitch

[bleak cradle]

not really

i have 2k hrs in rust and im a farmer for my clan

[dusky burrow]

Ipswich has the problem that it is a level 1 port

[bleak cradle]

build ports?

[dusky burrow]

perhaps, but you may have to hold for longer than you can

[ocean mirage]

wdym build ports bro you have to go fast or theres gonna be 9000 submarines in ur naval routes

[royal timber]

Is the new DLC worth getting rn?

[dusky burrow]

that too

[ocean mirage]

coal 😴 😴 😴 😴 😴 😴 😴

[bleak cradle]

i wasnt tryna be smart im just questioning

bc im always good at ipswich

[dusky burrow]

I find the most successful naval invasions are those that land around Hull or Newcastle

Or those that take the British by surprise along the southern coast

The invasions I see fail the most land in East Anglia, but idk

[ocean mirage]

dover is the bread and butter honestly

[sudden thistle]

too laye lol

too late

[ocean mirage]

push a bit and let ur first batch of divisions on dover recover org then u jsut blitz fast

[ocean mirage]

u can still do it in ur decision tab

below

[sudden thistle]

ok

[dusky burrow]

There's a decision in the decisions tab that you can do

So it isn't too late

[sudden thistle]

i have this war exhaustion mod and it screws me over since im playing italy

[dusky burrow]

It should say something like "create a collaboration government in greece"

[dusky burrow]

is there a way to decrease it?

[sudden thistle]

nvm console commands came in clutch

[dusky burrow]

In any case Italy starts out in a pretty good position to expand, kill off France and then the Balkans and you may have hihg war exhaustion but soon everyone else will have higher war exhaustion

[sudden thistle]

that aint hist

[dusky burrow]

I mean, in ahist you can do the same

it's much better if France forms their own faction because then you can just capitulate it in one swoop

If czechia does that might be difficult though

[sudden thistle]

Kitty likes hoi4

[tepid crown]

😎

[split bane]

Looks like WT and Hoi players got another thing in common (the first being spending ludicrous amounts of money)

[tepid crown]

yes

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-side-eye-gif-5016118126108679217

[tepid crown]

hello

[sudden thistle]

bro my entire army got deleted

wtf

[tepid crown]

delete everyone elses, even the playing field

[bleak cradle]

lol

it happens

[sudden thistle]

with the equipment too

wtf

[tepid crown]

start WWIII?

[ocean mirage]

the neoliberal falangist intervened

[split bane]

Yk there's a lot more reinforce meming compared to before the DLC

[shadow scaffold]

because stats are more bloated now than before

[clear dagger]

me see desk

me want it

[split bane]

Man playing as China kinda sucks since you get reinforce memed so much against Japan, meanwhile 6 Chinese divisions can't push against one Japanese

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

[ocean mirage]

most of my games japan just bulldozers its way into china

atleast the japan puppet doesnt have any cores

[cerulean orchid]

what is even the point of the puppet

why wouldnt you just puppet china normally

[ocean mirage]

i legit have not a single idea in what went through pdx's mind

[cerulean orchid]

even more useless than the reichskomisarriats 🥀

[ocean mirage]

same process used when they created coal i guess

[cerulean orchid]

mayb they did it specifically to nerf the japan ai

[tepid crown]

Japan stronk

[cerulean orchid]

since theyll always make the puppet

[ocean mirage]

like theres actually

NO

buffs for doing the reorganized shit

you jsut get a china with beijing as a core and thats it

[cerulean orchid]

wassup beijing

its actually shanghai i think

which is even worse

[ocean mirage]

when she xi on my jiping until i beijing 🤤

[ocean mirage]

idk its just too hard to understand anything atp

do their other puppets have

cores??

[cerulean orchid]

hmm do i get a collab government on china and get like 50 factories and millions of manpower or do i make funny reorganized government of china with 1 core

[ocean mirage]

nuke israel

[ripe slate]

It can get cores

[ocean mirage]

how

[cerulean orchid]

real

[ripe slate]

Idk but the developer of it told me it can so that definitely seems like a reliable source

[cerulean orchid]

y not js make a collab government

or regular puppet

[ripe slate]

Collab you need to wait ages for

And regular puppet needs a peacedeal

[cerulean orchid]

its better to get one anyway on china

i feel like if u cant beat china u shouldnt be playing japan

[ocean mirage]

too real

[cerulean orchid]

thats like the one big war you need to win

[ocean mirage]

if u dont make china fall in 38/39 just get off japan

[ripe slate]

Japan is really easy rn so yeh

[ocean mirage]

@cerulean orchid whats the worst part about dlc

reorganized china or coal

like do ur em

remember in real ww2 when hitler ran out of coal and he lost the war because of that

like hoi4 is so realist

[tepid crown]

That’s what we like to see

[ocean mirage]

when hitler kicked santa claus off the reichsletter and lost all the coal and their industries couldnt work anymore

PREACH COAL