hoi4-general

[rapid reef]

Well, better than expected for a peace deal

cleaned up borders a bit

[deep solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-rest-lazy-laying-bed-gif-20013546

[rapid reef]

italy singlehandedly lost the war

my god

[deep solstice]

me and my friend are in multiplayer

im genuinely justfying on italy for fun

✌️

[rapid reef]

just kill them

just kill and annex them

save your braincells

[deep solstice]

since we reformed the Central Powers

and the allies went facist

and France made a pact with the soviets

my choices are hilariously limited.

[grand wolf]

Average hoi4 game

[heavy vigil]

usually when im online theres not much going on tbh

dead hours

[grand wolf]

Aint no way I just did the german civil war in 43 days

[dusky burrow]

German Civil War is very quick

[tribal frost]

dang dude... i get it done late 1941!

[grand wolf]

I make 203 2 width units then just rush to the big cities

[grand wolf]

This is the fastest ive done it i usually finish it when I got abolish price controls

[tribal frost]

i see i see

[heavy vigil]

just use paratroopers smh

[sterile fractal]

What mod do you recommend to limit only the number of AI divisions?

[grand wolf]

Im not gonna spend 200 days researching them to use them in the civil war

[heavy vigil]

ok then puppet the ussr japan or like kashmir before the civil war

and youll have them

[grand wolf]

No

[heavy vigil]

i dont think its faster than researching it btw

might be tho? idk how fast you can cap the uk in this version

[grand wolf]

Ill just use my 2width infantry to win the civil war

[grand wolf]

What civil war are we talking about

[heavy vigil]

german

kashmir starts with para tech just like puppet them and somehow get a template from them

theyre an indian releasable

raj = uk puppet

so just need to cap uk for paras

its that shrimple

[grand wolf]

I think ill stick with how I do it and not go on a 300 day mission to beat the uk

[heavy vigil]

if its more than 200 days its a waste

might as well just research then

[grand wolf]

I finish the civil war before October of 1936 so its a waste either way

[heavy vigil]

thats loads of time

[grand wolf]

Im not using paratroopers

[heavy vigil]

fun allowed i guess 😞

[grand wolf]

I gotta rush the high seas fleet now

[leaden mulch]

True

[dusky burrow]

WHAAAAA

this is chicken and eggy here

[oak charm]

if the soviets are gonna cosy up to a facist nation it should be me and not germany lol

[heavy vigil]

you can do that within 200 days i think?

justification should take like 100 days

[dusky burrow]

Yeah they actually did cooperate quite a lot militarily, especially in naval matters

[oak charm]

soviets cant get enough of tha pizza

[dusky burrow]

i mean you can research paratroopers in 200 days, i don't think you can capitulate the uk in 200 days

[oak charm]

and also i'll probably help them against the germans

[marsh ravine]

Get good?

[heavy vigil]

uhm akshually its 210 days

[dusky burrow]

lmao

[grand wolf]

I feel like with enough bombers I can make the British very weak

[heavy vigil]

man why did they make justifying take forever

[strong belfry]

can somebody give me any fun contry ideas

[heavy vigil]

jan mayen gameplay

[grand wolf]

Chile

[dreamy moat]

Victoria 3 sale when

Black Friday legit tomorrow

[hybrid galleon]

i think the poland 1939 start date is broken

whenever i capitulate its just a game over screen

[fossil dragon]

Buthan

https://tenor.com/view/bhutan-gif-21304120

[grand wolf]

78 strategic bombing

[valid prairie]

What’s a good medium sp artillery design?

[grand wolf]

Depends what kinda division it'll be in

[valid prairie]

A tank division

With mechanised in it

[grand wolf]

Then go for as much soft attack as possible then if ur playing against the ai

[abstract wolf]

Pol pot is no longer the leader of communist Cambodia 💔

[strong belfry]

which way is historical poland

[upper kraken]

The Castle

[grand wolf]

There should be a book icon at the top

That shows the historical paths

[upper kraken]

I think its only for ger and jap focus tree

But im not sure

[strong belfry]

i need the right or left to go this focus

[upper kraken]

Its on you what do you choose

But i ussualy go right

[strong belfry]

probably yeah the best

[jaunty sandal]

guy has anyone done the battleroyale achievement

[hybrid galleon]

why is navy even more confusing?

why wont it let me get superiority at that tile evn though my fleet can easily reach it

[remote quarry]

right is the best

[warm otter]

im making something new

[grand wolf]

This is so fun im at war with france italy the soviets and japan

[remote quarry]

because your fleet is based in newcastle

click this

[devout trench]

you also have no ships on patrol

strike force no longer gives supremacy without patrol

[hybrid galleon]

really?

[devout trench]

yes

[hybrid galleon]

is this a new feature?

[hybrid galleon]

thats genuinly ass

[broken gale]

Putting the new artillery doctrine to good use.

[remote quarry]

yes

[hybrid galleon]

wow that wont get annoying at all

thanks for the tip

[final ingot]

ive to say really impressed with the prc overhaul. u START with half a province but 25 commanders thats pretty crazy..

at the time of civil war even more join u. i think u can get like 30+ after focuses and all that

its not apparent from the focus but u have just enough time to justify and declare on both shanxi and ningxia ma, the former is important if u dont want the north to get overran since u can sit the war out for a while

[upper kraken]

Looks cool

[steady thorn]

cant I hold a national referendum he just didnt die and I wanna go facist 💔

locked out of focus tree

[glad sun]

when was this added

[upper kraken]

Long time ago

Maybe with Commonwealth focus

I dont know right name for it right now

[surreal mist]

Man the guns

[steady thorn]

?

[final ingot]

i like how the chinese facsists are just....
hey, dont spit in the streets...

[steady thorn]

I picked the starting focus before he has the death event

and the event just bugged I guess

[final ingot]

dang

[upper kraken]

Together for victory

Is anybody from Czechia or Slovakia ?

[heavy vigil]

iirc its MtG

that added ahist uk

[grand wolf]

Why are my allies at war with the allies😭😭😭

[upper kraken]

Okey man

[upper kraken]

Was ???

How ???

[grand wolf]

I got no clue bro😭😭

Im getting nukes i wanna capitulate japan

[small steeple]

Doesnt work

The old peace out is broken

/bugged

[upper kraken]

Xd

[strong belfry]

polska grum

[grand wolf]

What all do i need in order to have all of the German empire old land?

[mortal mirage]

Hi guys

If 0.070% of my non core population is 764.72 million then my entire population equates to 1.092 trillion 🙏💔😭

Simple manpower fix 🤩

[heavy vigil]

??

no

its showing the full pops number which it takes a % of

[atomic grove]

yes

also, your country probably has been mobilizing it for a while

actually no

those stats are actually really good

unless that monthly population is going into your non cores

[atomic grove]

its showing the amount of non core pop u have

not the ones you're mobilizing daily

[brittle tundra]

guys whats the best overall template like i wanna have an army full of just this template

[small steeple]

prob just 35.7 width pure inf and suppport companies

[brittle tundra]

regular inf?

[small steeple]

yeah

[brittle tundra]

should i get like engineer and recon

maybe some anti air

[ripe slate]

Console time?

[small steeple]

engineer, anti air, signals ,(logistics or field hospitals) and support arty

[brittle tundra]

thanks

[small steeple]

also u need to go with superior firepower and large unit tactics

[brittle tundra]

oh thanks i was about to take mass assault

[small steeple]

nah its pretty bad now

[brittle tundra]

is this good?

[small steeple]

fine ig

[brittle tundra]

i havent unlocked the other supports yet

[steady thorn]

its

ironman

[steel summit]

chinese divisions be like

[steady thorn]

can I really not do anything 💔

[brittle tundra]

these ones are polish💔

[steel summit]

chingchong feel from a stair and broke a kids homework, 50 million perish

[small steeple]

superior firepower gives 0.6 recovery rate with is very strong

[ripe slate]

Whats the check on the focus? I might have an idea

[brittle tundra]

alright thanks for the help cyberse

i couldnt get your 35.7 width tho

[steady thorn]

that chang hai skeh is not the current leader

[steel summit]

also ur org is low

[ripe slate]

You could use my toolpack mod, it has a kill leader button

[steady thorn]

but guanxi simply didnt wanna kill him in the incident bc its not historical

[steady thorn]

ironman compatible?

[steel summit]

https://tenor.com/view/melon-watermelon-anime-melon-dance-bunny-girl-gif-7349719748491234218

[brittle tundra]

how do i increase that w signal?

[ripe slate]

no

[steady thorn]

well yea as ive said im on ironman

I can just use console to do it anyway if I could

[ripe slate]

But its easier to add a mod than de-ironman'ing the save

[steady thorn]

I just find it dumb how there is no option to hold a national referendum

I know you can only do it if u have a facist demagogue in ur cabinet specificly

but cmon 💔

Id be okay with a civil war aswell atp

[brittle tundra]

i find the national referandum unrealistic aswell

[steady thorn]

I just wanna do my focus tree cmon

[brittle tundra]

we should have better ways to switch ideologies

[steady thorn]

like everything below ur just locked out of

[brittle tundra]

china💔

[steady thorn]

its almost 1945 and the army reforms are not done yet 😭

[strong belfry]

🙏

[brittle tundra]

thats why you go fash❤️‍🩹

[steady thorn]

are these borders tuff

[brittle tundra]

horrid

[steady thorn]

this is itneresting to watch

[grand wolf]

Is there a way to avoid the civil war when doing the communist usa path

[vast shadow]

love the new china and japan where you get destroyed by the ai no matter what you do

[analog ivy]

whats a good combat width for the china war?

[vast shadow]

nah, the communist focuses trigger the uprising

[grand wolf]

Alr ima just do historical then

Make some PPSH's as well

[bronze mango]

Usa is so bad

[grand wolf]

Nah your bad

[bronze mango]

The focus tree is incredibly boring

Sinking has a better focus tree lmao

[vast shadow]

well at least you have an industry that allows you to build stuff instead of getting in a stalmate with the ai 24/7

[grand wolf]

And so is the uk, france, south Africa, Australia, New Zealand, and canadas

[bronze mango]

That is correct but the us is the worst out of these

[bronze mango]

No challenge

[grand wolf]

Its also the oldest

[proud tapir]

i think the US might get a rework next ngl

Maybe the US+UK

[grand wolf]

That would be nice

[proud tapir]

Makes sense too

First Japan

So maybe the US after them

[grand wolf]

Maybe could also be a Oceania update

[proud tapir]

Since man the guns is free anyways too

So technicaly they dont have dlcs anymore

High chance the next rework is US+Commonwealth

[bronze mango]

It's pretty much a guarantee

[proud tapir]

I really like Britain but im not a fan of the focus tree allat much

atp i only play reworked trees with those sweet 35 day focuses

[bronze mango]

So... the next dlc?

[vast shadow]

unfortunately "calculating every meta value with game speed 1 to not be reinforce-memed" doesn't really rhyme with fun

[proud tapir]

I would love an Australia tree

Current one is

awful

to say the least

[grand wolf]

Every puppet of the uk has an awful tree except the raj

[proud tapir]

True

[bronze mango]

I hate meta

Also im almost always on speed five

[vast shadow]

it's the only way to win as non-majors

[proud tapir]

meta tank build? Nah

Prussian legacy+infantry with line artillery

who needs tanks anyways

[grand wolf]

Frr

[bronze mango]

It clearly isn't base infantry works fine

[bronze mango]

Most games i pretty much never touch tanks

[proud tapir]

Who needs navies anyways too
Air focused Germany solos France and Britain

[vast shadow]

tell that to the other countries that instantly spawn 10 infantry on every tile

[bronze mango]

And when I do i do have my specific template but it really isn't meta

[grand wolf]

Who needs boats when you got planes

[proud tapir]

fr

[grand wolf]

Ive never actually done the Prussian legacy

[bronze mango]

Me neither

[proud tapir]

and besides, their navy dosent stop my infantry from landing in their port after my paratroopers take it (air is king ✊)

[bronze mango]

It's a grand battle plan path and i don't like grand battle plan

[proud tapir]

i always go Prussian

but dont take gbp after the new doctorines

[grand wolf]

I like gbp

[bronze mango]

I find it utterly useless

[grand wolf]

Ima try Prussian legacy as communist germany

[proud tapir]

i used to for the reduction costs and bonuses but now it dosent matter
I only take it for infantry bonuses and the logistics focus that boosts your supply

You get some sweet artillery defence too

[grand wolf]

Whats good for infantry then

[bronze mango]

Why bother with defence when you can attack

[proud tapir]

My Germany games always go

Prussian Legacy
Economic growth

I never went mefo

[proud tapir]

ever

[proud tapir]

For Germany, whenever i play them

I have two types of main infantry

[bronze mango]

I go down mefo only when im doing a historical game

[grand wolf]

Defense and offense?

[proud tapir]

Line defence, thats 18 width (9 block) with support companies

And offensive infantry that basicaly go the same as line infantry but with added line artillery

And

With the new doctorines you not only get huge line arty and support arty boosts

you get a signal company boost that gives artillery even more soft attack

so its useful to add signal companies later on

[grand wolf]

Spf?

[proud tapir]

Yeah i take spf as the "main doctorine"

and then the rest of the sub doctorines
I just take everything that boosts line artillery and support artillery

And i almost never build a navy now

I just spam fighter production and transports

Then i can just drop into France and Britain because they almost never get air superiority if you have good fighter designs

[surreal mist]

GBP if you're mostly attacking, SFP if you're mostly defending

though subdoctrines matter more. The only relevant infantry ones are Large Unit Tactics and Assault Infantry

[regal heron]

how many division they need bru 🥀

[surreal mist]

People's Militia good for Commie China

[grand wolf]

I like large infantry tactics

[grand wolf]

A million

[regal heron]

fr

[stiff fern]

How to avoid Yamamoto dying?

[sleek scroll]

Gang is mongolia under
protection of other countries?

[regal heron]

tf ts mean

[regal heron]

soviet iirc

[atomic grove]

my favorite building

[eternal palm]

Oh cool they forgot it here too

[icy crescent]

They can get a wargoal, when Benelux has high fascist or communist support.

[gleaming iron]

how long does faction traitor last

[strong belfry]

from there to here

[gleaming iron]

you got iran on your side?

[brittle tundra]

cheater cheater

[regal heron]

weird all of them already capitulated

[random sinew]

yall got any mods to recommend

besides kaiserreich

[eternal palm]

Any time anyone does something impressive 😭

[eternal palm]

Alt history?

Kaiserredux for more schizo

TFR is good too. TNO if you can bear with the UI

TwR for slightly less schizo

[random sinew]

hows kaiserredux different from kaiserreich actually

[atomic grove]

kaiserredux adds more content

however

the downside is

[eternal palm]

It has other content but the same setup

[molten pasture]

Kaiserredux is on drugs

[atomic grove]

most of the content also makes no sense

[eternal palm]

Though plays much differently

[random sinew]

oh

[eternal palm]

It's not as mechanic heavy as KR

[random sinew]

sounds cool

[eternal palm]

KR has devolved into mini game slop

[atomic grove]

like the craziest things you can think of

[random sinew]

alright thanks brojos

[molten pasture]

Rise of Nations can be fun (whenever it isn't crashing)

[strong belfry]

sovviets attacked iran then iran joined allies

[atomic grove]

is rise of nations actually fixed now

[molten pasture]

I'm working ot it

It runs

Also crashes quite often

[atomic grove]

also is there the other future start dates

[molten pasture]

dev shortage

[atomic grove]

have they made it yet

[molten pasture]

Not counting the work in progress ones, which the game doesn't load

[random sinew]

wth

[versed rapids]

best offensive infantry width?

[molten pasture]

-# tank

[bronze mango]

18

[regal heron]

how much manpower are there lol

[gleaming iron]

add 2012 for that "WORLD IS ENDING THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!" meme

[slim nexus]

Playing with no dlc is a thing, but playing with only some of them is really cursed

[brittle tundra]

hey guys im trying an only inf+artillery army for germany can you suggest a template?

[eternal palm]

Play with gtd but not nsb

Holy cursed

[eternal palm]

Best I can do is this

[bronze mango]

The starting one with anti air support company

[bronze mango]

Wtf is that

[brittle tundra]

i meant like a 7-2 inf and artillery

[bronze mango]

Line artillery?

[eternal palm]

Doctrine should be sfp, large unit Tactics, self propelled support, streamlined deployment and Grand Assault

[eternal palm]

Yea no

Don't do that

That's bad

[brittle tundra]

idk the terms bro i just want infantry and artillery💔

[eternal palm]

What about it?

[brittle tundra]

what about an 8-3

[eternal palm]

Still not good, but sure do whatever you want

I won't stop you

[bronze mango]

It's ludicrously large and expensive

[eternal palm]

So?

[brittle tundra]

wdym not good

[eternal palm]

Kills anything

[brittle tundra]

like in what way

[eternal palm]

Arty is kinda bad

[bronze mango]

Including your stockpiles

[eternal palm]

Arty reduces org hp, is expensive, doesn't add much stats, well maybe now but still. Not good

What you want for inf is org and gp

Arty reduces the very thing inf is good at

Also the width is just bad

Even when it's 2.2

[eternal palm]

Just have 150 on guns? You're not making anything else with this anyway

Think larger

Rush gun3 and boom

[bronze mango]

I will never understand meta and I am happy about that

[brittle tundra]

why do i always see people who spam 7-2s

[eternal palm]

Do what you wanna do

[eternal palm]

Because they're not thinking clearly

7/2 has been dead for a good 5 years now

[brittle tundra]

what type of balanced template do you suggest

[eternal palm]

Balanced?

What does that even mean

[brittle tundra]

like overall can do anything defend attack

[bronze mango]

Yes balanced not your brick

[eternal palm]

That language doesn't apply to hoi4

[brittle tundra]

also can be mass produced

[eternal palm]

Honestly what I posted above

U just need guns and men

Heres a smaller version

[brittle tundra]

bro that thing is expensive asf

[bronze mango]

Again the starting template is great, it just needs support anti air

[eternal palm]

Well yea, but you are also not making anything else

This isnt for a tank build

Like that's what commitment looks like

[brittle tundra]

so i can spam 80 divs of this and invade europe u say

[slim nexus]

Russia Hard mode

[brittle tundra]

also does going full motorized have any downsides besides supply and cost

[eternal palm]

Only 80?

[brittle tundra]

i can do 120

[eternal palm]

Make 240

But sure

120 works well enough

I dont really like recommending exact numbers

[brittle tundra]

ok ill make however much needed

i wanna go motorized too tho will this template work w motorized divisions?

[eternal palm]

Motorised is pretty ass

Like no stats and expensive again

I guess mech works better

But also very expensive even with the cost reduction

I wouldn't bother with it

[brittle tundra]

hmm

i will try ur inf template

im gonna delete all tank + motorized divisions i wanna use just one template

lets see how i end up

[edgy wedge]

Inst tank recon worse than mot recon?

Mot recon gives more speed bonuses

[eternal palm]

Stats

Mot recon really is pointless

Speed is kinda irrelevant cuz it gets nuked as soon as infra is damaged via fighting

Stats matter more. Also 80 soft and 100 break from a single support company is kinda big?

[spring relic]

helo

[heavy vigil]

ehh?

[spring relic]

does trotsky vanilla path offer a world conq

[heavy vigil]

hardness at least makes up for equipment losses

cant say that about trucks

[eternal palm]

Like pure mech army

Mech is simply more expensive than inf

[heavy vigil]

its really silly now

defensive build but still funny stats

its not sending :(

[heavy vigil]

look at this org tho

speed is also nice ig

[eternal palm]

Wait recov rate is not capped

I thought it maxed out at 2

[tulip thorn]

I love bloated stats so much

Green number green number

Give every nation the army buffs that finland gets

That would be so peak

[heavy vigil]

no lol

[eternal palm]

Yaaaay make every front so stacked nobody can push

Make hoi4 more like tfb

[heavy vigil]

mech is mega based with new doctrines tbh

[tulip thorn]

That sound like fun

[heavy vigil]

it gets buffed by like every subdoctrine

[tulip thorn]

Imagine Italian ai with finland army buffs

[heavy vigil]

theyd still lose?

they struggle to protect the million ports

[tulip thorn]

Maybe even faster lol

[heavy vigil]

and BoP doesnt help them

as a player you can just not do the BoP and justify manually

its not even that valuable

[brittle tundra]

wowww

is that achievable early game?

[heavy vigil]

i mean no because full doctrine but you can get it by like 1939/40 probably

[brittle tundra]

oh i thought 39 was early

[heavy vigil]

early wars are before 1939/hist ish dates

in my mind anyway

[brittle tundra]

did you do this as germany?

[heavy vigil]

no i clicked random nation and it gave me oman

and then i cheated to see the stats

[brittle tundra]

😡

cheater

[heavy vigil]

thats what you should do to test

[brittle tundra]

bro i thought you already achieved that normally😤

[heavy vigil]

i mean you can yes

theres nothing like research all

[brittle tundra]

i know it isnt ideal but i want to achieve wc using only one template

[clear kraken]

Guys renaming Berlin to Germania isn’t gonna anger anyone right?

[brittle tundra]

itll anger the goys

[clear kraken]

Ew

[brittle tundra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1354558472003260751/1413679153080828044/togif.gif

[royal marten]

Go play Road to 56

[tulip thorn]

Dont like R56

[icy wyvern]

Best game iml I think

[royal marten]

its literally what you're advocating for

[tulip thorn]

I was making a joke lol

[royal marten]

Sure

[mortal mirage]

Yeah that’s what I’m talking about I said population

Melon

[mortal mirage]

I know…

[mortal mirage]

Literally not possible btw

Can you guys like not read or

[grand wolf]

I need more planes😭

[tulip thorn]

2 planes good

[grand wolf]

Nah i tried using 2

It didn't get me 75% in the uk

[atomic grove]

planned to say insane but i knew that they looked kind of bullshit

[mortal mirage]

I don’t know how it happened but I had to delete that save lol

[upper veldt]

Trying to get to med school +HOI4 is a weird combo

[royal marten]

Seems alright to me

I think you're misunderstanding something

[heavy vigil]

murkesha does that i think?

[upper veldt]

Who is that

[royal marten]

@mortal mirage why is there a nazi number in your profile banner

@heavy vigil Can we kill this guy with hammers please

[sleek scroll]

Once you see a russian like him,start chechenmaxxing,they lose their shit

[brittle tundra]

russian NS😹 😹 😹 😹 😹

[cursive oxide]

AI when good peace deal u no

[brittle tundra]

nah Circassianmaxxing is better

[grand wolf]

Ive done it

Im in mainland Britain

[sleek scroll]

never tried,but bekrijamaxxing works against serbians too

[sleek scroll]

Also what does 148 means

[brittle tundra]

Circassianmaxxing will give you buff against all slavs

[grand wolf]

Line artillery is very good

[royal marten]

it says 1488

Its a nazi number

I forgot what the 14 means, I think its the amount of words in some speech but the 88 means HH (Hail H-)

[brittle tundra]

so scary

[grand wolf]

I like paratroopers now

[molten pasture]

edgy child

[sleek scroll]

ngl i lwk would go for 1453 if i were writing onto my firearm with a white pencil

[zinc light]

Is it similar to Kurdistanmaxxing against Turkey?

[civic lotus]

Hi everyone wher can i ask for help?

[ornate jewel]

#ask-for-help-here

[sleek scroll]

im fine wity kurds but if they are going to form a communist country,i wouldnt let that slide

[daring swallow]

when will ireland get a focus tree?

[zinc light]

The country that actually did absolutely nothing during WW2?

[viscid swift]

when 30th february comes

[daring swallow]

mhm

[zinc light]

Hey, that's when I got a date scheduled!

[daring swallow]

remember switzerland got a focus tree

[sleek scroll]

Ngl i would play a irland with islamist focus tree

[viscid swift]

so real

[daring swallow]

sounds fire

[heavy vigil]

uruguay also did nothing

[brittle tundra]

no pretty different

Circassianmaxxing is OP

[zinc light]

inb4 some edgy child popping in to say "Well that's just modern day'

[sleek scroll]

hmmm,chat i got a idea

[viscid swift]

remember, if u play HOI4, u either will be alone or play hoi4, choose wisely, a partner or panama making the UK a puppet?

[sleek scroll]

Developing nukes as tannu tuva then nuking Berlin 🥀

[brittle tundra]

Another White Muslim Classic⚡

[chilly cipher]

I wish there was a direct console command to set a country’s autonomy with an overlord

[sleek scroll]

Muslims are real aryan bro

[chilly cipher]

set_autonomy ENG CAN 4

[brittle tundra]

aryan is not a good term for white tbh

[sleek scroll]

i didnt mean white muslims,i meant all sunnis

[brittle tundra]

i meant White Muslims

[chilly cipher]

set_autonomy [Overlord TAG] [Puppet TAG] [1 — Integrated Puppet; 2 — Puppet; 3 — Colony; 4 — Dominion; 5 — Independent]

[sleek scroll]

Oh mb @brittle tundra

[zinc light]

The Word has multiple definitions

[brittle tundra]

yeah i know

i meant the general use of it

[zinc light]

Yeah that's true

[bronze mango]

Well given the actual original meaning of aryan was to refer to Iranian people's yes

[brittle tundra]

iranians are shia tho💔

its like being mormon

[bronze mango]

That's a sect of Islam

[zinc light]

Being mormon is still being christian

[brittle tundra]

to outsiders who generalize it might be

but to us some of them are out of the religion

as they dont fit the requirements to be a Muslim

[zinc light]

There are requirements & prerequisites to be part of a faith?
Competitive Faithmaxxing?!?

[brittle tundra]

yes thats called a religion😎

[bronze mango]

Orthodox and catholic are both categorised as Christians, they are different sects of the same religion

[brittle tundra]

they still consider eachother christian though, in Islam its different

[bronze mango]

They have different view points but still believe in the same diety and read the same book

[brittle tundra]

some shias dont obey the book thats why we disregard their faith

[frank zodiac]

hi

[sleek scroll]

iranians arent aryan,they are shias

[brittle tundra]

hello khomeini

[brittle tundra]

whaaa

[eternal palm]

💀

[brittle tundra]

aryan is a faith?

[eternal palm]

Lmao

[bronze mango]

And Christians also don't always obey the book

[eternal palm]

NO HOLY SHIT

Omfg

Stop right now

[bronze mango]

Like I guess for nazis yes

[brittle tundra]

im jk

lil bro

[eternal palm]

This is hoi4 general

[viscid coyote]

I thought it was just a race

[eternal palm]

💀

Jfc

[bronze mango]

It is

[eternal palm]

Are we really going there

[bronze mango]

We are talking about Iran not nazi beliefs

[viscid coyote]

You guys were

Oh ok

[bronze mango]

Anyways back to bad division templates

[zinc light]

Hell yeah

[eternal palm]

Then aryan is either a mythical ancestor to Iranians and Europeans or an invention 😭

Either way are we really teaching kids nazi racial theory here?

[brittle tundra]

every mf suggest some weird ass 300 width template here

[zinc light]

-Spends 30 minutes designing an absolute kick-ass tank design
-gets rolled
-1km/h speed

[viscid coyote]

Is line artillery somewhat decent

[eternal palm]

Nah

[viscid coyote]

I heard it got better after the dlc

[eternal palm]

Still ass

[viscid coyote]

Oh ok

[eternal palm]

Only slightly better

[bronze mango]

I don't know if don't use it

[viscid coyote]

Still sticking with my 18 width block then

[eternal palm]

Show design?

[zinc light]

Cant, I'm Not on my PC

[bronze mango]

40 with block of pure tanks

[zinc light]

Hell yeah

[sleek scroll]

i mean,they aint diff than protestans in christianity,if you catch my drift

[viscid coyote]

I like 30 or 36 width personally

[brittle tundra]

nahh protestants are still close

they are like mormons

[zinc light]

I be doing everything in between that

[brittle tundra]

or jehovahs witnesses

[viscid coyote]

Actually what’s the good width for mountaineers?

[bronze mango]

Yeah i go for 30 but the joke is actually the pure tanks part

[viscid coyote]

I never got good at their template

[mellow parrot]

Finna turn Ironman On and Play a random Chinese Warlord

On Non HIst

Lets go

[bronze mango]

A tank only division is horrible

[sleek scroll]

Yeah that too

[viscid coyote]

Makes sense

[zinc light]

From what I know it's 25 since mintains are 50 width, but inb4 some absolute metaslave that tells you differently

[fervent estuary]

How to play as communist China? Which paths are the easiest

[viscid coyote]

I only include motorized should I do some mechanized too?

[eternal palm]

Some inspiration

[zinc light]

Fascist Sinkiang

[viscid coyote]

Oh thanks

[fervent estuary]

What did I expect

[viscid coyote]

Guangdong clique is amazing

[viscid coyote]

Thanks

[zinc light]

Northwestern Army

[viscid coyote]

Decent

[mellow parrot]

I just chose the Chinese Soviet Republic

Going down Mao's path since he specializes in Guerrilla Warfare

[viscid coyote]

The guangdong clique has a shared focus tree with Guangxi clique

[bronze mango]

I am still yet to see a template from you that doesnt make me sick

[mellow parrot]

Good shennaigans

[frank zodiac]

No its putinmeini

wazap Beijing

[royal marten]

@mellow parrot You suck

[viscid coyote]

Wait… have you ever been a warlord that tried to do the Chinese empire, but you needed to control Beijing so you either did a naval invasion or really long land campaign just to continue your focus tree?

[random sinew]

yo guys

[royal marten]

@mellow parrot Your mom is so fat...

[viscid coyote]

Yeah?

[mellow parrot]

Are you trying to any % get warned or something? lol

[sudden thistle]

Yeah

[random sinew]

if you're playing as Japan or UK or USA, is it optimal to just ignore naval research

[mellow parrot]

Like I don't know where we both come from lol

[viscid coyote]

Yes im not alone

[royal marten]

Check the ROWS ping

[bold rune]

do factories from trade use coal

[viscid coyote]

Italy if you give it time can actually have a EXTREMELY good navy

[sudden thistle]

Sinkiang has always owned Beijing

[viscid coyote]

Idk

[viscid coyote]

Maybe

[sudden thistle]

No it’s a yes

[random sinew]

yea buttt you'd take away from army

[bronze mango]

Sinkiang is peak

It also gets a ridiculous amount of national spirits

[viscid coyote]

Idc

Navy is king

And airforce is queen

The army is expendable

[viscid coyote]

Nice

[random sinew]

nah airforce tops all

[viscid coyote]

But I just love the navy

I am a navy enthusiast

[random sinew]

so you like playing Japan

needa learn navy someday lowk

[frank zodiac]

Do you know who this is?

[viscid coyote]

Actually no

[bronze mango]

Gunther fehlinger

[viscid coyote]

I like building a navy from scratch or a minor navy lien Italy

[viscid coyote]

Yes it’s fun

[frank zodiac]

Ex Russia

[bronze mango]

Austrian schizoid politician

[eternal palm]

Some Austrian right extremist politician

[frank zodiac]

I tagged him on Instagram and he replied to me

[viscid coyote]

I find that hard to believe but I’ll try to believe it

[frank zodiac]

Austrian? No, not again.

[viscid coyote]

Austrians every 80 years:

[frank zodiac]

Would you like me to take a picture for you?

[bronze mango]

He is the definition of liberalism i wouldn't call him far right, but to be fair anything right of marx should be disregarded

[viscid coyote]

Sure

[frank zodiac]

I will record a short video for you

[viscid coyote]

Thanks

[random sinew]

https://youtu.be/i0wgBJbBbPQ?si=jNfTFIZf65sSpQEX ts a good guide?

[viscid coyote]

I will probaly be gone in like 2 minutes tho sry

[random sinew]

bittrsteel

[viscid coyote]

YES

[tepid crown]

Navy isn’t hard

[viscid coyote]

I learned the navy mostly by myself but Bitrsteel is like VERY VERY GOOD

[viscid coyote]

Agreed

[random sinew]

oh wait does no compromise no surrender change anything significant

[viscid coyote]

No

[tepid crown]

Just mostly useless

[tepid crown]

Yes

[viscid coyote]

Basic rundown is good subs, cheap destroyers, good sub hunting destroyers, some really good cruisers, and the best carriers and battleships if you can afford them

That way the destroyers will soak up fire while your fleet does the damage

If you see a lot of your destroyers there sinking don’t worry

They are replaceable

[random sinew]

oh ok

[viscid coyote]

Yeah that’s basically it

[random sinew]

doesn't have to be tankyn destroyed

destroyers

[viscid coyote]

I believe you know

No

It’ll be worthless

Just get good courses

[frank zodiac]

The Assyrian doesn't lie, my friend.

[viscid coyote]

The more tanks a ship the longer time it takes to make

[viscid coyote]

👍

[random sinew]

alr thanks brochacho

[viscid coyote]

No

[frank zodiac]

They've made playing in Japan a bit difficult.

[grand wolf]

How fast can you capitulate france in historical?

[tepid crown]

Not necessarily meta build but

[safe wing]

Is line artillery actually viable now

[tepid crown]

Not really

[bronze mango]

To me it feels easier

Also by far more fun

[frank zodiac]

I don't think so

[heavy vigil]

do you delay china war

[frank zodiac]

ofc

[heavy vigil]

why would you delay it..

[frank zodiac]

The Chinese alliance has become strong

[heavy vigil]

china scales a lot, japan doesnt scale without china eco

[bronze mango]

That's why

[frank zodiac]

I've tried historical Japan, but I haven't tried the additions and I find it difficult.

[bronze mango]

Sorry but this is just a skill issue

[frank zodiac]

Know

Graveyard of Empires Best DLC I've played in the game

[bronze mango]

Honestly don't disagree with you

Iraq is one of my favourite countries in the game

[frank zodiac]

Because Iraq has a national tree

[bronze mango]

Fellow Iraq lover

[heavy vigil]

its very simple to play

i like afghanistan the most of them because its like difficult

a bit

[frank wasp]

how do i know if hoi4 is the game for me since its on sale rn

[frank zodiac]

Fr

[bronze mango]

Timurid Afghanistan is amazing

[heavy vigil]

i kinda stopped playing it after they buffed it a lot

[heavy vigil]

but its still ok

[frank zodiac]

Afghan Red Army, comrade is the best

[frank zodiac]

No, not the three-star one.

I'm kidding

It's the best

I loved Red Germany

So where did you disappear to?

[icy wyvern]

Ez

[bronze mango]

Good thing is you can still go down that path after going timurid

Graveyard of empires was extremely overhated

[frank zodiac]

Really?

[tepid crown]

It was just a bad dlc

[bronze mango]

You just have poor taste

[frank zodiac]

Last communist Khan

[tepid crown]

No, no I do not. You just like slop

[frank zodiac]

bro whr r u from?

[bronze mango]

Italy

[frank zodiac]

Borfavoriiiiiii

[bronze mango]

At most I'd agree on it being slightly overpriced

But it still was good

For 2 countries (and a half) atleast

[frank zodiac]

I was playing Kaisersch in Sardinia a little while ago

🇮🇹🦅🇮🇹🦅🇮🇹🦅🇮🇹🦅🇮🇹🦅🦅🇮🇹🦅🇮🇹🦅🇮🇹🦅🇮🇹🦅🇮🇹🦅🇮🇹🦅🇮🇹🦅🇮🇹🦅🇮🇹🦅🇮🇹🦅🇮🇹🦅🇮🇹

[slim nexus]

Kaosrreich my favorite mod

[frank zodiac]

So, what do you think about the new additions in the Philippines?

[woven dragon]

Lovely

[frank zodiac]

I will experiment with liberals in the Philippines.

[woven dragon]

But I could be biased since Douglas MacArthur

[frank zodiac]

General, what are you doing here?

[woven dragon]

and the secret Military Dictatorship Path

[frank zodiac]

You are supposed to be in Korea now.

[simple aurora]

Eyy

[bronze mango]

I would've preferred siam

[simple aurora]

What does coal do?

[woven dragon]

Harry Truman Fired Me

[frank zodiac]

🐘🇹🇭🐘🇹🇭🐘🇹🇭🐘🇹🇭🐘🇹🇭🐘🇹🇭🐘🇹🇭🐘🇹🇭🐘🇹🇭🐘🇹🇭🐘🇹🇭🐘🇹🇭🐘🇹🇭🐘🇹🇭🐘🇹🇭🐘🇹🇭

[frank zodiac]

Well, we have a nuclear bomb.

[woven dragon]

That is coming in Thunder At Our Gates

[sleek scroll]

i love siamese cats too

[nocturne cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/coal-mid-joshinferno-bad-soyjak-gif-12718961185158622820

[sleek scroll]

but most house friendly ones are that one,that breed with no hair

[frank zodiac]

I love Turkish shawarma

[woven dragon]

Are you Russian or Iranian?

[sleek scroll]

i can eat turkish shawarma for less than 2.5$,can u

[frank zodiac]

Iraqi Assyrian ☦️

[sleek scroll]

Christian iraqi?

[frank zodiac]

Very expensive

[frank zodiac]

Yes

[sleek scroll]

Tf u mean very expensive its cheapest 😭

[frank zodiac]

Hey man, in Duhok we're close to you for $1

[sleek scroll]

i got a shia friend from an najaf,and im not same since the day i found he is a shia

[floral dome]

Am I the only one who genuinely doesn't mind the coal? Lol

[frank zodiac]

Shia Muslims are the best Muslims

[floral dome]

Infact it's kinda interesting

At least it ain't the damn fuel system from the MD mod lmao

[woven dragon]

Go ahead and play a game of Bulgaria

Or Lithuania

[sleek scroll]

Nah they are lower than even you

[floral dome]

Playing bulgaria is cancer in any version... Lol

[frank zodiac]

No, my friend, the Shia are the best Muslims.

[sleek scroll]

Does turkey have a national focus for bulgarians too

[still loom]

How creative

[sleek scroll]

they are not even muslim bro 😭

[rocky sedge]

The only shia I knew called me a slur tbh

[frank zodiac]

Constantinople, Bulgaria

[woven dragon]

I captured the Bosporous and all I got was this lousy achievement

[frank zodiac]

No, they aren't. If they weren't Muslim, why would they go to Mecca? It's one of two things: either you're a Salafist or you're a racist.

[sleek scroll]

And for only 2 shia i know,i pray for them to find the correct way

[frank zodiac]

Tissergrad 🇧🇬

[sleek scroll]

they are in so wrong way that they tried to build their own macca

[frank zodiac]

Let's leave that aside, man. We're in a game now, not a religion.

[woven dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/bulgarian-meme-tricolor-bulgaria-flags-bulgarian-flags-bulgarian-flag-gif-9855953071813872268

[slim nexus]

The prussia of the balkans

[frank zodiac]

General whr r u from?

[sleek scroll]

Yeah,sorry

May Allah give you hidayah tho

[still loom]

https://tenor.com/view/coal-coal-alarm-alarm-gem-cringe-gif-12659343827939057679

[frank zodiac]

Jesus loves you

[sleek scroll]

Yknow what,i will try to play afganistan

[frank zodiac]

Try the Timurid

[split fulcrum]

Yer from where?

Türkiye?

[rocky sedge]

Worst time of my life ngl

[primal timber]

i would like to have my storage back thank you very much

[frank zodiac]

Bro Do you know Günter Flahnerghan?

[slim nexus]

No

[split fulcrum]

@slim nexus dude i once tried learning german

Wie geht's heute?

[rocky sedge]

Is this just hoi4 mods

[primal timber]

just shaved off like 100 gigs

[slim nexus]

good

[primal timber]

savefiles

[split fulcrum]

Sehr gut?

[slim nexus]

Ja

[rocky sedge]

Dang

[split fulcrum]

[slim nexus]

If were talkign save file i have question does storage drom earlier save file go away if u ovwrwrite a save file

[primal timber]

i bet you 90% of them aren't even usable

[woven dragon]

They actually added research tech for coal

[rocky sedge]

About time

[rocky sedge]

He fell off

[slim nexus]

oh yes this guy

but isn‘t he austrian?

[split fulcrum]

Austrian politician

[frank zodiac]

I tagged him on Instagram and he replied to me

[rocky sedge]

Yeah

[split fulcrum]

Austria and germany are very different things

[primal timber]

he was playing TFR no?

[frank zodiac]

He put me in his story 😂😂😂

[slim nexus]

Dont worry i wont let them

[frank zodiac]

yeah

I was on his Stream

[rare crow]

What's the best way to beat china as Japan?

[slim nexus]

naval invasion spam

[rare crow]

And colab government?

[frank zodiac]

Es lebe der käsar! 🦅🇩🇪🦅🇩🇪🦅🇩🇪🦅🇩🇪🦅🇩🇪🦅🇩🇪🦅

[frank zodiac]

fr

[rocky sedge]

By not playing Japan fr

[frank zodiac]

Ex UK

[slim nexus]

maybe but i never do that because i need the dopamine of annexing

[frank zodiac]

bro r u arab

[heavy vigil]

@frank zodiac your pfp breaks rule 4 ( #server-rules ) of the server (no modern politicians), could i kindly ask you to change it?

[rocky sedge]

I’m from an Arab country

[frank zodiac]

sorry

[frank zodiac]

Are you from the Levant?

[rocky sedge]

Born in an Arab country but lived In china most my life then moved to Ireland recently

[rocky sedge]

Yeah

[frank zodiac]

Syria or Jordan

[rocky sedge]

Neither of them

Close tho

[frank zodiac]

🍉

[strong belfry]

ofc iran

[rocky sedge]

mhm

[frank zodiac]

Don't say that thing

[rocky sedge]

what thing

[frank zodiac]

Iran is not Arab

[split fulcrum]

LUBNAN

LEBNAYN

[rocky sedge]

Not Lebanon

[split fulcrum]

🇱🇧 🇱🇧 🇱🇧

[strong belfry]

farsi

[frank zodiac]

Are there any Lebanese people playing hoi4?

[split fulcrum]

Probably

[strong belfry]

i met one of them

[rocky sedge]

Yeah

[split fulcrum]

@rocky sedge is there a lebanese head of state

I actually dont know

[rocky sedge]

I’m not Lebanese

😭

[frank zodiac]

History must record that Lebanon has become hoi4 in reality

[slim nexus]

are there french people playing hoi4?

[split fulcrum]

I heard lebanese people eat kubbah nayyeh

Is that true?

[rocky sedge]

Cuán is an Irish name and the Arabic is the closest phonetically to it in Arabic

[rocky sedge]

I know nothing about the Lebanese dawg

I jus want knafeh

[split fulcrum]

Dude a lebanese person told me that

[frank zodiac]

Egypt

[split fulcrum]

He started talking about it

[split fulcrum]

Lebanese people eat knafeh?

[molten pasture]

bittersteel is belgian, that should count

[rocky sedge]

I’m not Lebanese

[crystal marsh]

Coal rework 🗣️

[rocky sedge]

I’m literally from close to Nablus which is where it’s from

[crystal marsh]

Honestly respect to paradox for making it a priority to fix all bugs asap

[split fulcrum]

Lebanon is close to nablus

[rocky sedge]

Yes but where is nablus

I’m from Ramallah not Lebanon 😭

[split fulcrum]

Close to lebanon

[rocky sedge]

We’re closer to Jordan than anything

[frank zodiac]

Bro, you said kunafa, which means Egyptian.

[frank zodiac]

Don't say Iraq

[rocky sedge]

I’m not Egyptian

[split fulcrum]

Kunafa does NOT mean egyptian

[rocky sedge]

Kunafeh is a food ffs

[frank zodiac]

What do you mean

[rocky sedge]

I’ve also already said where I’m from dawg stop guessing

[frank zodiac]

He's from the Levant, not from Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, or Jordan. Are you out of your mind?

[rocky sedge]

I’m from Palestine

[frank zodiac]

Cyprus?

[rocky sedge]

And I’m a woman

[split fulcrum]

WHAT

WHAT

[rocky sedge]

I just have a male Irish name

[frank zodiac]

okay

[split fulcrum]

كوانة

[frank zodiac]

cuan is a Kurdish name

[rocky sedge]

It’s Irish

[frank zodiac]

جوان In Kurdish, the name of the flower

[split fulcrum]

Does mosul count as in the levant?

[rocky sedge]

it is an old Irish name meaning “little warrior,” “little wolf,” or “hound”

[frank zodiac]

I am an Assyrian living in northern Iraq, and I can prove that we have such names.

[split fulcrum]

Assyrian?

[frank zodiac]

no

[grand wolf]

If I capitulate france and the uk would I be able to do autarky achieved?

[split fulcrum]

Isnt that Christan syrian?

[frank zodiac]

No, I am Assyrian. أشوري"

[rocky sedge]

My next hint for where I’m from was gonna be that the British occupied us but that is like half of the Middle East tbf

[frank zodiac]

Aramaic

[frank zodiac]

maybe

[grand wolf]

🙂

[frank zodiac]

Rule the Waves once again

[grand wolf]

Nah ima rule the sky's, England is gonna get killed by paratroopers

[slim nexus]

you could also drop a nuke

[frank zodiac]

😂😂😂😂😂🤣🫵🏻

[grand wolf]

But then id have to wait till after 1942

[tulip thorn]

England can keep the waves

They smell of fish

[mental mantle]

Do field hospitals do anything important other than save my soldiers?

[slim nexus]

naval invade scotland

[frank zodiac]

Scotland is the best country in the world

[rocky sedge]

Nah

[opal nymph]

What's with people invading anywhere that isnt Southern England

[grand wolf]

Im flying into east Anglia

[opal nymph]

How are you getting air support

[mental mantle]

Forts

[rocky sedge]

Less protected prolly

[opal nymph]

Hess?

[opal nymph]

What forts

[mental mantle]

Bunkers

Whatever they are called

[grand wolf]

What? I already took the focus to get him

[opal nymph]

Do they even build them?

[frank zodiac]

I'm confused as to why they didn't put National Focus in Spain.

[mental mantle]

Probably sea

[opal nymph]

I was wondering isnt that what Hess did

[grand wolf]

Id maybe

Hopefully he dont die

[opal nymph]

I think all they get is radar and max AA

[rocky sedge]

There’s a dlc that has Spain focuses

[opal nymph]

I dont think they build forts

[mental mantle]

They get it along the coasts of cornwall and southeast england

No?

[grand wolf]

Nah the got coastal forts but paratroopers solve those problems

[frank zodiac]

What is your favorite country? in hoi4 as u

[mental mantle]

Brasil

[grand wolf]

Plus they dont really protect the naval bases

[opal nymph]

Im still pretty sure they dont get naval forts either

[rocky sedge]

I mainly play the cpc or like random minor countries

[frank zodiac]

It's old

[rocky sedge]

True

[grand wolf]

Nah they do ive seen em do it

[opal nymph]

What game are you playing

[mental mantle]

Good luck trying to get the kriegsmarine to have naval superiority in the channel, lol

Better go north to scotland

[grand wolf]

Base hoi4

[grand wolf]

Im flying what you on about

[mental mantle]

I have 106 mods in my game