hoi4-general

[grand wolf]

What country is that for?

[fading elk]

Austria

Good news is u lose anti Anschluss early on

Bad news is well, in terms of political power you will have no pp by the end of it

Also for some reason Croatia will just appear in Yugoslavia for some reason if they join the war to help you

So if you want a pretty good chance to get your allies to become your puppets so u can take their troops you
1 need to invite them for 100pp
2 need to help their industry for 100 pp
3 ask to integrate for 150

With a 30 day, 30 day and 50 day timer until they come into effect

So to get only a single nation to get to be your puppet it’s 110 days and 350 pp

[grand wolf]

So much pp

[exotic hazel]

japan ?

[fading elk]

Also when u need to do this you have unemployment rebuff which means u get 10% less pp

So ya

[sage fog]

it's 1947 in my game i conquered all of china as mao

as well as japan and mexico

but then the uk declared on me

anyone have any ideas for how i could win?

[grand wolf]

Is it as bad as the Spartacus league pp requirements

[grand wolf]

Join the comintern

Build a navy

[fading elk]

I’m gonna try it next

But at least for communist Germany you are still Germany

So have an actual army

[grand wolf]

Its fun, id suggest taking the first focus for peg during the civil war

[signal oracle]

Tried to beat that tonight and final score was 35k to 12 million. Better likely in terms of KD and war ain’t done yet

[grand wolf]

Yeah plus you get some good buffs for building a bigger one

[grand wolf]

Is communist china that op?

[zinc light]

Kaiserreich is about to break me

I have been playing for SEVEN HOURS
and the best part?
World War 2 ONLY STARTS NOW

[signal oracle]

I was Germany for this run, USSR for the other run

[grand wolf]

Ohhhh

[zinc light]

I help Argentina suppress the syndicalists
they fight Brazil (both are democracies)

I help India defeat the syndicalists
somehow THE BRITISH RAJ defeats MY INDIA

I'm about to lose my mind

[signal oracle]

Most of high KD is just river + fort lines and good defense

[zinc light]

scrap all that
3 words:
Close Air Support

[sage fog]

now the ussr declared on me

should i just quit

[signal oracle]

I have about 8k per airspace, all good

[sage fog]

and start a new game

lol

[grand wolf]

Nah join the allies

[signal oracle]

What country are you

[sage fog]

seems a bit hopeless

china communist

allies dont exist

im at war with england

[signal oracle]

You can human wave the shit out of them

Whats your economy like?

[dusky perch]

Is Japan good in NCNS DLC

[grand wolf]

Very good

Very fun

[dusky perch]

Interesting

[zinc light]

btw, is austria-hungary guaranteed to stick together when playing as germany in Kaiserreich?
whenever I played another country, shit went south quick for them

[coral gorge]

70% of the time they will stay as AUH, whether fragmented or united

30% AI will take End the Dual Rule path

within it probably around 90% of the time, Austria will lose

[zinc light]

ah okay so its not predetermined, aight

[coral gorge]

it is predetermined upon start-up

[zinc light]

well yeah

[coral gorge]

it is just % of AI taking which path

[zinc light]

how influential are they to the war?

is them breaking apart an automatic restart?

[misty acorn]

I think the AI doesn't know how to navy with the update

their fleets are so small

like bruh just 3 battleships no screens 😭

they keep having these tiny task forces that are easy to pick off

[serene inlet]

why cant i put my navy there as italy

anyone knows

[wooden lynx]

Are they stationed close enough and can they leave the med?

[serene inlet]

yeah

in german ports

[icy crescent]

You have to assign your fleet to a port.
The port becomes the new main base then.
Make sure it is upgraded enough to support a big enough fleet.
... at least that's what I heard.

[serene inlet]

how do i do that

[icy crescent]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wooden lynx]

Where at in Germany?

[serene inlet]

?? you meant he naval headquarters

how do i set those up

[icy crescent]

I don't play new patch.

Do you own the Spanish canal?

Gibraltar?

[patent thistle]

HAH F YOU ITALY

[serene inlet]

yes

[wooden lynx]

I assume they have North Africa as well, at least, the Moroco part

[serene inlet]

it has to do with the naval headquarters

dude wtf

[icy crescent]

Just making sure, that you can get to the sea.

[wooden lynx]

The naval headquarters I cannot help with

[icy crescent]

Me neither.

[dapper orchid]

STALIN WHAT DID YOU DO

[wooden lynx]

Germany and Britain sided with each other

Apparently

[rustic turtle]

paradox

why did u have to touch doctrines

literally, 0 people asked that

weirdos

[patent thistle]

how did i still not lose a single ship- i havent even lost a single destroyer yet-

[ivory dust]

Hello

Im having a problem

I play as Argentina with trials of allegiance mod activated

and im not able to do the "Support the spanish coup" focus

Because it says it requires republican spain to exist

and it does.

[misty acorn]

send a ss hovering over the focus

[ivory dust]

??

[verbal wyvern]

they pushed this tile 😢 they made the AI a lot better.

[patent thistle]

donitz you are not going to win, not even with albanian destroyers

[verbal wyvern]

enemy low org and planes

[crystal sandal]

did PDX fix the multiplayer lag issue yet?

[patent thistle]

because i am chasing the f out of these dam submarines

because the AI doesnt do shit against them

[crystal sandal]

did PDX fix the multiplayer lag issue yet?

[patent thistle]

dont think they will ever

[crystal sandal]

they made a forum post saying that they are trying to fix it

[worn hollow]

Imagine claiming u understand navy but just spam subs

[shut anvil]

Does Japan not have a non-aligned focus path anymore?

Oh wait I was wrong, they actually made the default ideology historically accurate

[oak mantle]

If u wanna host a mp game then its probably best to disable the dlc

[grand wolf]

The doctrine system is better i disliked the old one

[oak mantle]

I agree

I didnt like wasting all my army exp on doctrines then not having wenough army xp for division templates

[grand wolf]

Old one took so much army experience this one is 100x better

[oak mantle]

Agreed

And its pretty hard to get army xp unless u make chunky divisions in spain

[grand wolf]

Or grind your own wars that you start early

[oak mantle]

Yeah

[grand wolf]

Getting army and air xp is slow as hell

[oak mantle]

True

[patent thistle]

ez

[rustic turtle]

i literally never had that problem once

u doing something wrong

[oak mantle]

I can recall so many times where i coudlnt make tanks because of having no army xp caused by doctrines

[worn hollow]

Only 2?

[oak mantle]

Maybe but it was annoying

[patent thistle]

i have still not lost a single destroyer

[oak mantle]

Tank divisions take like 100 xp

[patent thistle]

3*

[rustic turtle]

now u can't even upgrade them?

[patent thistle]

and still i did not lose a single ship yet

[oak mantle]

U can

[worn hollow]

It says 2

[grand wolf]

You can

[rustic turtle]

u can't

[grand wolf]

Can

[rustic turtle]

u need to go to war

[worn hollow]

Scary

[oak mantle]

U can

[oak mantle]

U dont

[patent thistle]

i am the one fighting italy

[worn hollow]

Oh

[grand wolf]

Just train your units to get mastery its so easy

[oak mantle]

Units in action

[worn hollow]

Damn thats tuff then

Mb

[oak mantle]

Or training

So you can send volunteers or just tain

[rustic turtle]

right, you can also drill for literally 0.1x xp

lmao

[patent thistle]

i have still not lost a single god dam ship

[worn hollow]

What ships

[grand wolf]

It goes up pretty fast when training

[patent thistle]

panzerschiffe, pre-dreadnoughts (they only exist for memes and they are working-)

[worn hollow]

I mean yours

[patent thistle]

these are mine

[worn hollow]

Pre carriers?

[grand wolf]

What country are you?

[patent thistle]

pre-dreadnought battlecruisers

[patent thistle]

east africa

[worn hollow]

Oh

Damn

[grand wolf]

How?

[patent thistle]

kenya

[worn hollow]

How did u eat their navy then

With only 2

[grand wolf]

Ohhhh

[patent thistle]

all self build

[worn hollow]

Do u reccomend I use this to beat Britain as germany

[grand wolf]

As all ships should be

[worn hollow]

Or do u have a template on them

[grand wolf]

You can use anything as long as you got aa and alot of cheap destroyers

[hybrid galleon]

That’s alot of Veteran naval units

[patent thistle]

nah this is a fleet you shoudnt really use against the UK

[worn hollow]

Destroyers dont do anything tho

Is what I was told

[patent thistle]

they have builed the italian and vichy french navies

[grand wolf]

They are the most important.

[worn hollow]

I was told for germany against Britain use carriers and 25 light cruisers

[patent thistle]

either destroyers or light cruiserw

[worn hollow]

They arent tho

Compared to light cruisers

Britain absolutely ate my navy

[patent thistle]

you are going to need either heavy cruisers or battlecruisers too then

[crystal sandal]

you need screens

[hybrid galleon]

My man

[worn hollow]

Alr

[patent thistle]

carriers otherwise will not be shielded

[grand wolf]

Im not gonna waste so much ic on cruisers when I can make destroyers to protect my ships for way less

[patent thistle]

i usally make both

[worn hollow]

Ill do heavy cruisers

[hybrid galleon]

Is it weird that I usually don’t use carriers?

[patent thistle]

i sometimes make them+

[grand wolf]

I dont i just make 4 different ships

[hybrid galleon]

Probably cause I’m not much of a naval dude but I always saw carriers as to resource heavy

[patent thistle]

but i am guessing you are the battleship guy?

[grand wolf]

I use screens only for to protect my capitals

[hybrid galleon]

Sometimes, if I have the tech but mostly I spam subs and destroyers

[patent thistle]

focus on speed when making heavy cruisers

[worn hollow]

Wym by speed

[hybrid galleon]

Already got so much other stuff to research so why spend it on something I don’t use

[grand wolf]

A light cruiser costs at least 4x more than a destroyer

[patent thistle]

this statt

[patent thistle]

ye but usally they can bully enemy ships more

[worn hollow]

Wait so

[ocean temple]

biggest coal producing areas?

[worn hollow]

What is a reccomended speed

[grand wolf]

I'd rather use destroyers and use capitals for bullying

[patent thistle]

depends how good you can make them

[hybrid galleon]

I do plan on getting more in navy but idk where to start

Kinda just let the auto designer go crazy

[patent thistle]

💀

[grand wolf]

Play as japan that'll help

[worn hollow]

Is there a certain template I gotta make

For heavy cruisers

[hybrid galleon]

Aight

But any tips on making good navy ships

[grand wolf]

CA is for light and BB or BC for heavy attack

[hybrid galleon]

What?

[silk nebula]

I think there is too few coal in nations that should have more, an example is Italy, if you conquer the world you still don't have enough coal, you become negative in coal, it feels that will need some adjustments

[patent thistle]

bro the ai designs always somewhat suck-

[worn hollow]

What even does that mean

[grand wolf]

Make cheap destroyers for screening and heavy cruisers for light attack then battleships or battle cruisers for heavy

[hybrid galleon]

Aight

[patent thistle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3610052424

[grand wolf]

Look at the naval designer at the top

[silk nebula]

What's that

[grand wolf]

Amd then as much space as possible for carriers

[hybrid galleon]

Not for me, they seem to be going well

[patent thistle]

coal farm mod

[silk nebula]

I'm confused

[hybrid galleon]

I do know that

Also how much AA should I add, I typically take the Ching Lee approach and slap it anywhere I can

[silk nebula]

Aah

Will that disable achievements?

Cuz it will suck

[patent thistle]

most likely

[grand wolf]

Just on capital ships

[patent thistle]

mods usually do so

[silk nebula]

Sadge

[hybrid galleon]

So like Battle ships and carriers?

[grand wolf]

Yes

[silk nebula]

The picture fooled me so my bad, I thought it was MC

[hybrid galleon]

Aight

[grand wolf]

Also for destroyers just put light battery 1

678 ic for a basic destroyer

[hybrid galleon]

Ah got it, I always put the best one I can

[grand wolf]

I just use em for taking damage so I usually got 100-300 in a fleet

Also if you can get a few superheavy battleships thats good as well

[hybrid galleon]

Aight

What about cruiser subs?

[grand wolf]

I have not used those yet

[hybrid galleon]

Their decent

[grand wolf]

How many planes can they fit?

[nocturne grove]

looking for some feedback on a mod im developing. How many traits is "too much" for starting generals? These are traits that already are assigned at the game start, representing the experience level of these generals and the type of fighting they engaged in. I definitely think my mod has too many traits, but im curious as to where the cut-off is.

[hybrid galleon]

I think at max 4

[grand wolf]

4 planes?

[grand wolf]

Whats the goal of the mod

[nocturne grove]

its 3 planes

[heavy vigil]

more traits mean the generals are usually worse

[nocturne grove]

as in the premise? or the goal of having so many medals?

[grand wolf]

A whole 3 planes

[north spoke]

"you cant forget the quarter" ahh

[grand wolf]

Historical generals or just more generals?

[nocturne grove]

well worse for leveling up sure. these generals are all meant to be "old guard" though, so that tracks

[heavy vigil]

i would not use any of those generals

[nocturne grove]

these are all historical generals and all the traits are based off of real action they did.

[heavy vigil]

your trait gain is slower and your attack levels suck

[rustic turtle]

can't wait for the old doctrines to come back through a mod

[grand wolf]

Well make it off what they have accomplished in 1936, and dont add too many medals

[rustic turtle]

doubt it but there is hope

[nocturne grove]

there are better ones, these are some of the ones you'd start using when you start growing your army. No reason to use anyone other than Kornilov or Wrangel when you have 24 units of course.

So whats the cut-off then for trait count?

[grand wolf]

3 or 4 traits maybe 2

[nocturne grove]

also saying having too many traits is bad because it reduces your trait gain isn't as relevant in the case where the general already has good traits.

[heavy vigil]

well for actually wanting to grind/use them, only stuff like brilliant strategist inflexible defender matters

i dont see why someone who isnt bad would use those generals

[hybrid galleon]

Yeah

[grand wolf]

Whats the point of them then

[nocturne grove]

well for one, they're the generals you have. Its not always about min-maxing specially for mods. but i agree that theres too many which is why im looking to see how many traits is the cut-off for when players think its "too much", both from gameplay and from ui clutter.

[hybrid galleon]

I think the traits amount is fine but it’s the percentage bonus that should be focused on

[haughty mauve]

uhhhhh does the AI use licensed equipment now?

[hybrid galleon]

Scouting and naval bombing, they were real submarines the Japanese used them the I-900 I believe

But just put more tubes on them

[nocturne grove]

its not about giving the player amazing generals they can grind on, its about giving the player a choice they can pick from. eg do you pick the guy who will grind poorly but has good traits you need now (such as terrain)

[grand wolf]

Ohh so scout subs

[nocturne grove]

wdym percentage bonus?

as in the combined effects of all the traits?

[hybrid galleon]

Like make sure the traits dosent give like +60% combat bonus type stuff

[hybrid galleon]

Ehhh sorta

[lone sail]

What should I do

[grand wolf]

Add more range

[heavy vigil]

you can just recruit new ones?

[lone sail]

How

I only have cas light planes

[grand wolf]

More fuel tanks

[grand wolf]

Make bombers

[nocturne grove]

well yes but new ones have poor stats. sometimes you need generals that are good now but dont scale well. my mod has a lot of early wars. and you can only recruit so many new ones before the cost and is so high

[hybrid galleon]

I got the name wrong it’s the I-400 but look it up, it’s cool

[simple crest]

Carriers fleets needs to be shielded by CA in this patch, like before??

[grand wolf]

You are not reaching pearl harbor with cas

[grand wolf]

Yeah

[lone sail]

Heavy planes?

[grand wolf]

Yes

[lone sail]

I don’t have any researched, should I use the interwar one

[grand wolf]

No

[heavy vigil]

low level levelling always has better stats

[hybrid galleon]

Watch em, they’ll find a way

[grand wolf]

Just basic or advanced

[heavy vigil]

since you roll 3x for attack level ups per level up

[grand wolf]

They dont have the range

[nocturne grove]

interesting. so if I want these generals to be at least viable in the early game, I should increase their stats?

[hybrid galleon]

True but it be funny if we figure out a way

[simple crest]

Do i need to build civs tu rush another research slot as japan or is better mils for marco polo bridge??

[grand wolf]

"Gotta get pearl harbor to bomb pearl harbor"

[grand wolf]

Civs first japan has poor industry

You'll have plenty guns to invade china

[hybrid galleon]

Win win

[brazen holly]

Just got back into the game after a year, anyone know the best way to make division templates and plane templates or has not much changed since then

And tanks,

[barren coyote]

Can somebody explain coal for me very shortly

[grand wolf]

Oh hell nah hes got one line artillery

[hybrid galleon]

Best division I’ve used by far, use it with superior firepower and you’ll win easily

[hollow narwhal]

i tried to subjugate romania's economy or whatever and they rejected so i did "war it is then!"
.. how is poland in here-

[grand wolf]

Bro your germany make tanks

[hybrid galleon]

Works well for me for awhile now

[hybrid galleon]

I am

A flame tank

[grand wolf]

Make mediums

[hybrid galleon]

It’s a medium flame tank

[hollow narwhal]

super heavy flame tank ☠️

[hybrid galleon]

Why waste production on new tanks if my division works

[hybrid galleon]

Good idea

[grand wolf]

Normal medium tanks

[shut anvil]

Does anyone else have the problem where when you select a division or air base that the map snaps back into place and you can’t pan around anymore?

[grand wolf]

You only need 24 tank divisions

[hybrid galleon]

Yeah but I’m able to get mine out like crazy and win

I don’t see why this is such a issue

[hybrid galleon]

Nope

[grand wolf]

Its not it just makes it much easier to get breakthroughs and get large encirclements

[shut anvil]

Do you know why it might be happening though?

[hybrid galleon]

I don’t do encirclements much when I melt the enemy

[grand wolf]

What are the losses like?

[patent thistle]

... the soviets need a dam buff.

[hybrid galleon]

No idea I guess it thinks your clicking the unassigned division so it snaps you to them

[patent thistle]

that ALWAYS, happends in my games

[shut anvil]

It’s assigned

[hybrid galleon]

Usually one death to every two though I’ve had some where I’ve only been in the double digits while the enemy is in the triple

[hybrid galleon]

Probably the code thinks it isn’t

Idk man I don’t code

[grand wolf]

Okay you fight the ussr yet?

[hybrid galleon]

I did

That screenshot was from like three days ago

[autumn plover]

Is it just me or does anyone else really like when mods have shattered nations you have to rebuild throughout your campaign

[grand wolf]

Alright what about an invasion of the British isles?

[grand wolf]

Ohhhh

[grand wolf]

Very fun

[glad sun]

wait i just realised my subs use rubber why?

[grand wolf]

Whats the design look like?

[oak mantle]

Yes

[grand wolf]

Why is the game not letting me do anschluss

[grand wolf]

Middle top slot is why

[glad sun]

ok

[patent thistle]

rip italy again

[grand wolf]

Poor Italy

[patent thistle]

i catched a battleship

[grand wolf]

If you want replace it with a radar

[patent thistle]

YOU AINT GETTING AWAY THIS TIME

[grand wolf]

all alone?

[patent thistle]

thats what happends when the AI tries to retreat ships

without escort

[grand wolf]

Ai needs an update

[patent thistle]

the italians are now becoming bold

[grand wolf]

Maybe they should update how the difficulty works

[valid whale]

anyone getting beat by AI navy? Or is everyone just stomping it? lol

[grand wolf]

Ai navy is weak

[patent thistle]

because the ai designs suck ass and the ai does not know how to use ships properly

[grand wolf]

Frrrr

You'd think the royal navy would be at least a little challenging but its not

[patent thistle]

armoured carriers- 😭

[grand wolf]

Oh hell nah

[patent thistle]

if you are this desperate and you HAVE to armor carriers you know you are done for 😭

[patent thistle]

the UK starts with those i am pretty sure

[grand wolf]

Rip to the uk

[hollow narwhal]

glad to see destroyer spam still works (pdx pls dont fix LOL)

[patent thistle]

OUCH THAT HURTS TO LOOK AT-

[grand wolf]

💀

[patent thistle]

battleships without escort 😭

[hollow narwhal]

WHAT LMAO

[grand wolf]

Ez

[patent thistle]

AGAIN-

[hollow narwhal]

finaly diced the soviet Onion

[slim hatch]

based :3

[grand wolf]

Wth

[patent thistle]

... HOW DID I NOT LOSE A SINGLE DESTROYER HERE 😭

[fathom oyster]

Hello

[patent thistle]

my entire navy is veteran at this point-

[grand wolf]

Sink the royal navy now

Guys Austria just banned DNSAP

How rude of them

[patent thistle]

they are slowly getting wittled down (they started the war with like 400 ships)

[grand wolf]

Lol

I now own Austria

[patent thistle]

i first of have to fix my fleet

THE WAR SCORE WITH SUNKEN ENEMY SHIPS IS CRAZY-

[grand wolf]

LMAO

Im invading Sweden to do a focus

[patent thistle]

okay admittedly i did take quite a bunch of damage in the last battle-

but hey repairs can be repaired while enemy losses cant be replaced that easily

[grand wolf]

True

[agile perch]

why dont i got acess bro 💔

[patent thistle]

i still find it funny that the pre-dreadnoughts and panzerschiffe show worth-

image being on the Italian ship roma, possibly one of the most modern ships in the world (at that point) and then getting poked by a pre-dreadnought and sinking

and one from east africa making it even more of an insult-

[tepid coral]

The game gave me the capitulation for Germany as Democratic Japan but it didn't give me hte achievment

[grand wolf]

Its September 5th and I already have 51 factories

[grand wolf]

Does east Africa have a focus tree?

[agile perch]

tuff

[patent thistle]

no-

its kenya

[grand wolf]

Makes it even worse that italy is suffering

[tepid coral]

It is so annoying

Do I need the most war score?

[patent thistle]

that is exactly what i was talking about earlier-

[buoyant heath]

wtf is this china

[patent thistle]

they are litterally partially loosing because of this meme i made (it was again not meant to be serious so DONT, judge me)

[buoyant heath]

i just steamrolled it and it capped in july 1937

[tepid crown]

It’s easy

[tepid coral]

Anyone know?

[buoyant heath]

Old china made me cry

[tepid crown]

That. I have no clue

[oak mantle]

Is it possible to get a 100% chance for the tactic you want?

[haughty stone]

Yalll how to make naval and army factions at equilibrium

[patent thistle]

fleet has been mostly restored, once its done its time to return to bully what remains of the italian navy

[oak mantle]

What if you select the tactic for the field marshal, general and country wide tactic?

[grand wolf]

Make them both meddling or influential

[haughty stone]

Like in the imperial influence thing?

[grand wolf]

Yes

[ancient marsh]

bro

i cant hold my ports as china

[grand wolf]

Dont even try just hold behind rivers till the usa joins the war

Just hold rivers and mountains

But make sure the divisions holding are fully geared

[grand wolf]

Im rushing for the fate of czechoslovakia

[ancient marsh]

i can hold the frontline by the yellow river

but i just cant hold the coast

and i cant close pockets when they land either

[grand wolf]

Have pre placed troops at the rivers

[ancient marsh]

thing is i want them to land

so i can kill divisions

and destroy japan eqp

[ancient marsh]

i don wanna fall back to wuhan 💔

[grand wolf]

Thats a good idea but is it working

[ancient marsh]

It was

until it didnt

[grand wolf]

You're gonna have to

What year is it

[patent thistle]

this is just desperation at this point-

[ancient marsh]

this was last attempt

that fuijan pocket came in like jan

and it let them take shanghai

because i diverted resources away from everywhere else to try and deal with it

[ancient marsh]

ts my focus order

i delete like 1/3 of the army at start

[grand wolf]

Id say to just hold behind the rivers but stall them early war so you can get alot of guns

[ancient marsh]

and convert to the 12w

[grand wolf]

No dont do that

No point

[patent thistle]

bro is level 7 at this point- 💀

[ancient marsh]

no guns

[grand wolf]

They still serve a very good purpose

They can hold the Japanese back or stall them till you got guns

[ancient marsh]

i would rather less divs that can fight decent vs more divs that cant fight

right??

[grand wolf]

No take a page from the soviet unions book

[ancient marsh]

divisions with no org will just hurt every battle too

[grand wolf]

Lot of soviets didn't have weapons but the sheer mass amount if people stalled for time

[grand wolf]

They hold back the Japanese for longer tho

Which is more important

[ancient marsh]

im not trying to hold them back forever

my goal is eventually to counterattack

[grand wolf]

Can't do that if they overrun you

Even men without weapons server a purpose

Its how the ussr survived till they could fight back

[ancient marsh]

so then what do i do with the shitty divs

port?

[grand wolf]

No you let them stall the Japanese

For as long as possible till you can make divisions that have weapons and can hold behind rivers

[tepid coral]

Anyone got a tip to quickly win the Democratic Japanese civil war?

[grand wolf]

Get all mainland provinces and put troops on the borders of Kansai and just take the capital

[tepid coral]

I tried that

But I couldnt save enough PP to take all those states?

[cyan arrow]

?

[lone sail]

Bruh it’s 1944 and I still can’t Pearl Harbor

[tepid coral]

I just can't save enough

[grand wolf]

There's no time limit on how long you can stall the war

[lone sail]

I built some heavy planes but they can’t reach it

[tepid coral]

I tried to

But I need to join WW2 and help the UK so I get the achievement

[cyan arrow]

Have you tried turning your HOI4 Off and On again?

[tepid coral]

I did get the capitulation notice but it didn't count it for some reason

[rapid furnace]

can someone help me out

[grand wolf]

Then take the northern ones and invade into the south

[grand wolf]

WithM

[patent thistle]

what do we call the lesson of this? DONT TOUCH MY BOATS.

[rapid furnace]

germany

[tepid coral]

Tried that too

[patent thistle]

they used to have like 400 ships

[tepid coral]

They stalled me out and it took me FOREVER to break through

Cause I didn't have enough industry to make more good divisions

[lone sail]

Seriously tho

[grand wolf]

1936 and I already have the sudetenland

[cyan arrow]

I honestly dk tho

[tepid coral]

Granted I'm not sure what counts as a good division in HOI4

[rapid furnace]

its may 1939 and this is me

[cyan arrow]

Main question is

[lone sail]

How to increase plane range

[cyan arrow]

Why is there a 1 soldier division

[cyan arrow]

Modify the plane to include special modules like drop tanks that increase the range

[lone sail]

I can’t find drop tanks

[grand wolf]

Thats gonna be me in early 1937

[tepid coral]

It requires that drop tank tech in the air tech tree

[cyan arrow]

I lowk dont have pc at hand and its like 3 AM so go to #ask-for-help-here

No offense

[tepid coral]

Assuming you have BBA

[rapid furnace]

army group

[zealous wind]

why is it so hard to conquer china noww

im legit

[cyan arrow]

Oh

[zealous wind]

fuming

malding

[cyan arrow]

I be blind

[rapid furnace]

also for

im just in the helping vc so someone can help me with the invasion of poland norway france and so on

[zealous wind]

why is it so bright wtf

[rapid furnace]

idfk

[zealous wind]

why does my collab gov for china gives me just 4 % 😭

[grand wolf]

I now own the sudetenland in early 1937

[ancient marsh]

@grand wolf definitely working better

[grand wolf]

I told you

It worked against the Germans it'll work against japan

[ancient marsh]

different for sov

because sov is easy

and you can easily not lose a single tile

[grand wolf]

Nah im talking about irl

[meager valley]

Wym

Like Chinese unit spam or what

I struggled a little at first as Japan but was able to turn it around

Air kinda shreds China

[zealous wind]

I mean that it used to be easier

Bro I literally had to walk over behind chongqing 😭

wtf

it wont cap

[heavy vigil]

i mean you either beat them in 37 or it takes several more years because they annex warlords for vps

[meager valley]

Ngl it capped easier for me but they put up a harder resistance

[ancient marsh]

oh laso

should i delete sichaun's army that i inherit

for the equipment

[meager valley]

True

[zealous wind]

wait

[zealous wind]

I dont have this

dlc

forgor

[ancient marsh]

for some reason they made the new warlords dlc locked

[heavy vigil]

oh then you have marco polo decisions right?

[zealous wind]

maybe the dlc helps me ? since I can cap them individualy faster

[meager valley]

Is there any way to fix the bordergore where it gives tiles to different nations?

[heavy vigil]

no

you dont want to cap warlords

[zealous wind]

no no the tree is different

[heavy vigil]

ruins your compliance taking their states

[ancient marsh]

console, setowner [tag] while selecting state

[meager valley]

Kinda hate when tiles are split between countries

[heavy vigil]

i know

[meager valley]

I mean can devs do it

[heavy vigil]

but when the war starts do you still have to burn pp?

[heavy vigil]

in decisions

[meager valley]

Thought they fixed this in the past

[heavy vigil]

to escalate or no

[ancient marsh]

devs cant do anything but release overpriced slop

sorry

[zealous wind]

just 1 for ichigo

50pp

[heavy vigil]

yes

do that

[zealous wind]

yea I do it

[heavy vigil]

you have +20% stats china -30%

then you make encirclements

[zealous wind]

I do that I know but

the thing is

I should have taken a sc

actually

[heavy vigil]

move inland faster

[zealous wind]

but literally I conquered it all 😭

like

[heavy vigil]

take advantage of open/weak tiles

[zealous wind]

was china territority

[meager valley]

The slop term is so tiring tbh.

[zealous wind]

like js that mountain

and it still wouldnt cap

[grand wolf]

Bro its only 1937 and I got all of czechoslovakia

[zealous wind]

I had to let them take some ground back so I could send spies to create a collab gov

[zealous wind]

what ?

[ancient marsh]

it really is though

and its hilarious steam nominated them for labor of love

[meager valley]

How so

[ancient marsh]

despite 1 abysmal dlc and patches this year

and a mediocre overpriced dlc

[meager valley]

What about this DLC in particular is slop from what you’ve observed

[ancient marsh]

nothing to justify a $30 pricetag

also a lot of flavor is just

absent or lazy

[remote quarry]

yes

[ancient marsh]

philippines content sucks

[meager valley]

What about this DLC do you deem skip apart form its price

[remote quarry]

you can't take nanjing before starting the third collab

[meager valley]

In what way?

[ancient marsh]

manchuria didnt get a new focus tree

[zealous wind]

they can sacrifice warlords for victory points

wtf

[remote quarry]

not sacriface

[ancient marsh]

mengjiang got nothing except 3 national spirits

[remote quarry]

they annex them

so their total vp increase

[ancient marsh]

some warlords got "content" because paradoxx gav ethem like 5 unique focuses

[zealous wind]

meaning?

[ancient marsh]

so they could say "hey we updated the warlords tooo

[cerulean orchid]

i dont like the update in general

[remote quarry]

meaning you skip nanjing

[cerulean orchid]

the dlc is fine

[runic spoke]

💀

who is accepting this

[cerulean orchid]

but the new naval system is js confusing and now the allied ai js does literally nothing the whole game

[remote quarry]

also you need to get total mob whichh is kinda tricky

[cerulean orchid]

lmao what

[ancient marsh]

belgian congo but more larp and devoid of any of the cool features

[meager valley]

So it’s slop because you wanted more focus trees

[runic spoke]

chiang is desperate fr

[ancient marsh]

quality and quantity are not mutuality exclusive

[meager valley]

Congo was pretty terrible. Tbh I prefer the Phillipines

[dusky burrow]

Literally

I've seen the Germans invade Palestine in 1940 my first game back

[ancient marsh]

also yea

[dusky burrow]

Actually maybe 1939

[ancient marsh]

ai got broken hopefully temporarily

[zealous wind]

how many collabs do i need

[dusky burrow]

No definitely not 1939 but definitely 1940

[ancient marsh]

and doctrine system is mediocre

even if a step in the right direction

[meager valley]

I don’t mind the Phillipines paths. Reminds me Moreso of past focuses trees like the Netherlands.

[cerulean orchid]

i played a japan game and by the time i beat the uk in 1945 the allies didnt do a single naval invasion period

[remote quarry]

3

[runic spoke]

i dont understand why paradox absolutely REFUSES to make line artillery useful

[cerulean orchid]

not in europe or asia

[ancient marsh]

ill take shoehorned monarchist path for 200 paradox

[meager valley]

How would you change it to make it better?

[runic spoke]

even with the massive buffs it got with new doctrine system its still shitttttttt

[cerulean orchid]

they lobotomized the allied ai

[remote quarry]

because paradox don't understand why they are bad, to begin with

[runic spoke]

so sad 🙁

i just want to use line artillery and not feel shit about it

[meager valley]

Allies were in a perfect spot with GDR imo

Idk what they changed with them

[ancient marsh]

oh my godddddddddddddd

[cerulean orchid]

they made the uk focus more on home defense

[ancient marsh]

because 1 tile wasnt garrisoned

shanghai

may aswell restart

[meager valley]

May as well garrison ports rather than entire coast

[cerulean orchid]

ts aint that hard to hold

[meager valley]

Encircle the ones that land without supply

[ancient marsh]

i can hold the entire coastline

there just wasnt a unit on shanghai

because one was holding another naval invasion

literally one

[meager valley]

Idk why, they were excellent at home defense with GDR

I: it just the naval change?

[ancient marsh]

and the ai is stupid so it decided not to go on shanghai

[cerulean orchid]

im talking about gdr

[meager valley]

Make an army that exclusively does ports and another that does coast

[cerulean orchid]

in this update the allies literally never naval invade

[ancient marsh]

im

im not a moron bro

[meager valley]

I’ve seen DDAY but the pacific is pretty bleak

[meager valley]

What am I looking at

[ancient marsh]

its just annoying asf to hold the ports

and you just get obliterated if anything lands because their divs dont break

[cerulean orchid]

i literally left my entire home islands empty and the allies didnt do anything

[meager valley]

Ngl Japan getting a +20% infantry attack buff is way too high

[cerulean orchid]

then again i wasnt at war with the us but still

[remote quarry]

it's fine as long as you know how to get breakthrough

[meager valley]

As Japan?

[cerulean orchid]

yes

[meager valley]

I took Hawaii so easily as Japan I was shook

[ancient marsh]

oh ymy godfdddfg

[meager valley]

I think the ai splits its fleets up too much now tbh that’s what it is

[ancient marsh]

this isnt even hard its just so annoying

[meager valley]

And since they’re split, they never deem their naval dominance high enough to invade

[dusky burrow]

Hawaii isn't that hard to take in HOI4 tbh

[meager valley]

It’s gotta be a bug

[dusky burrow]

Just why take Hawaii

[meager valley]

Achievement for eternal empire

[ancient marsh]

us navy isnt touching you

[dusky burrow]

Fair

[ancient marsh]

unless austria or nz or other islands exist

or allied ports

take those btw

[meager valley]

Largest US battle group I saw was like 40 ships with 1 carrier

[ancient marsh]

also yea the ai is very passive now

d-day is broken again

and they never even land in italy

[meager valley]

I believe they genuinely just divide up so much that they don’t ever commit to anything

[patent thistle]

its not suprising that the only ship i lost this entire campagne is some stolen italian one

[meager valley]

I’ve seen DDAY in half my games but Italy never yeah 😭

[meager valley]

See what I mean by tiny battle groups

AI tries so hard to cover everything that it ends up covering nothing

[cerulean orchid]

when are they going to fix the ai

[patent thistle]

nah i just bullied the italian navy earlier enough so they now basically have nothing left

[remote quarry]

also you would want to pull out from the north after china kill the warlords, so you can get total mob

[cerulean orchid]

make it stop making stupid peace deals and make it do literally anything in a war

[meager valley]

Legit largest battle I had against the US as Japan was 40 of their ships V 95 of mine

[cerulean orchid]

ya thats another thing

[zealous wind]

why is it so complicated

[cerulean orchid]

the largest naval battle i had was like 30 ships

[meager valley]

They just never commit to anything hard enough

[patent thistle]

not even all

[meager valley]

That’s what I’m saying. AI avoids stacks now

[ancient marsh]

the only tree that ive liked so far is japan's

and content overall

philippines is boring and larpy

china is either incredibly annoying or easy

[cerulean orchid]

i havent tried china yet is it fun

[patent thistle]

i have usually more due to just having the mosquito fleet mod installed

[ancient marsh]

its just holding ports bro

[meager valley]

Kinda how I felt about GDR ngl. Had fun with most but only really came back to Germany

[tawdry thistle]

is better hard attack or speed for super heavy battleships?

[ancient marsh]

and if you lose a port you basically have to endlessly fall back

[cerulean orchid]

i wanna try out communist china but it seems way harder in ts update and i couldnt win as them before the update

[meager valley]

I played as communist China though and they actually can get cracked

They have like the best supply buffs in the game

Mfers just don’t need food

[cerulean orchid]

i think ill try them out tomorrow

[meager valley]

Survive on grain of rice a day type beat

[cerulean orchid]

what was ur strat

[meager valley]

They legit get sensu beans

[cerulean orchid]

did u attack everyone or join the united front

[meager valley]

Ally nationalists, war with every non aligned warlord. And for some reason they just gave me all the territory we won

Then I took Manchuria

Before turning on nationalists with like 96 divisions

[meager valley]

United Front that you start

I think bc you’re faction leader it may give you territory when winning wars

I had China and Tibet by like 1941

[sudden thistle]

guys is 800-900 deaths to 100k kills good

[tepid crown]

No. Should be 1 death to 1,000k kills

[remote quarry]

because paradox decides want to ruin your life

[sudden thistle]

cinema?

[tulip thorn]

Pretty small air

[meager valley]

Somehow I killed 110k in a battle and lost 0 yesterday

Like did we just bomb a volcano and it Pompeii’d the enemy? 😭

[craggy trail]

Looking pretty good there

[grand wolf]

This is so stupid

How tf am I supposed to do the fate of czechoslovakia before Hungary gets southern Slovakia

[dusky burrow]

This was like one of the two times I nuked people

the other time was just a while before also in south africa

[dusky burrow]

I mean Hungary's going to demand it anyways

So

[grand wolf]

Ima say no

I need the steel it has for a focus

[strong belfry]

i tried boss

[dusky burrow]

You mean autarky?

[grand wolf]

The 3 before that

[dusky burrow]

How did this happen

[strong belfry]

if u start as non historical sovviet might declera war on you at the begining

that focus

[dusky burrow]

Ah I see

In that case I'd probably just start spamming rifles and 16-widths and hold the best I can

[strong belfry]

lol turkey starting with 11k minus gun and 4 mil

[dusky burrow]

Yeah unfortunate

[strong belfry]

if greece didnt attacked me i could do smth

[dusky burrow]

You basically have to pretend you are Ethiopia in that situation tbh

[strong belfry]

i should've just focus on guns

[dusky burrow]

While you're under the threat of war yes

Of course if the Soviets don't declare on you then you're fine

[strong belfry]

i wanted sovviets to attack me :D.

it was fun

[dusky burrow]

Imo I think it is doable

I got Batumi day 1

[dusky perch]

Is this normal as Germany?

[brittle cypress]

what about it

[heavy vigil]

marcus hii

[grand wolf]

Does having 2 or 3 spies on diplomatic pressure make Yugoslavia more likely to say yes to the fate of Yugoslavia?

[heavy vigil]

i was looking at things and mech is so funny

[dusky perch]

I just justify war to Yugoslavia

[grand wolf]

But then then I wont have mefo bills no more

And that makes it all pointless

It worked they said yes

[dusky perch]

Wow

Without shoot any single bullet

[quasi viper]

This latest DLC may have broken historical Spain because Spain has beat the nationalists in every game since the DLC dropped.

[tulip thorn]

Do you have la resistance?

[rustic sinew]

is burma and india release options bugged for japan ?

[quasi viper]

Yes

I have all the DLCs

Also, I think that Civilian Nuclear Reactors should give you energy.

[tulip thorn]

Weird

[agile perch]

🤑

[tulip thorn]

I have never seen the republic win with historical focuses on

[dusky burrow]

Somehow I'm winning against the Soviets as Turkey (this is a test run also so I'm playing fast and loose)

[agile perch]

uh guys how do i see my population is that possible

[rustic sinew]

hover over manpower it tells u core pop and noncore pop

[agile perch]

Ok thanks

16m 😭

[buoyant heath]

plsssss make china stronger

[agile perch]

oh nvm 43m

[drowsy ravine]

this is so unbelievably cursed

look what i did to the american common wealth

defense of democracy... short term goal declare war on democray

[rustic sinew]

those mountains are rough

[drowsy ravine]

democracy*

[rustic sinew]

one thing i dont understand is if i dont have docking rights in a area why cant i have their naval range too?

[dusky perch]

I actually invade turkey to attack Soviet from the south

And it's absolutely failure

The Caucasus make my army nearly collapse

[prime lintel]

Bruh

[deep solstice]

what am I even looking at rn

imperalist canada?

Alf Landon?

Mexican soviet republic 😭

Ik its non-historical but how far off the plot are we 😭

[dusky perch]

That's why non historical is the best game mode

[deep solstice]

is that czechslovakia

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/997225496410607718/1439054595493204151/togif.gif

NO MY GIF

[shadow tusk]

?????????

[dusky perch]

But the border is kinda sucks

[deep solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-403140411062093680

honestly im sick of playing without player-led peace conferences

damn greedy AI

[shadow tusk]

they also control afghanistan and there tag is afg but there focus tree is nazi germany but there color is diff and odd and the german civilwar happened

[dusky perch]

How to play as Saudi Arabia

[drowsy ravine]

peak i dont even need war

[dusky perch]

Better than British

[drowsy ravine]

ive also been facist for the past like

5 years

[split bane]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[prime lintel]

Italy's daily incompetence

[deep solstice]

Hey, they deleted my gif, very different

https://tenor.com/view/we-have-a-problem-hyperlend-hyperliquid-gif-10298773031610709083

[lavish cliff]

man in the high castle moment

[deep solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/exploding-flowers-destruction-red-so-red-the-rose-gif-17001594

[lavish cliff]

I almost sunk the entire ijn

[deep solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/rdc-mark-mark-phillips-youngboy-skit-gif-2755510000585805666

[lavish cliff]

including all their convoys

[tulip thorn]

Its so funny sinking the entire british, american or japanese navy

[lavish cliff]

I won the allies in 1941, then the japanese somehow declared on me

then I sunk them using the british fleet

[tulip thorn]

It took me until 1944 to beat the allies in my current italy game

Mostly because I purposely took a long time

[lavish cliff]

now all their troops in china have no supplies

[tulip thorn]

Sank the entire british fleet after taking the home islands

[lavish cliff]

sealion is easier now (I think) with the new navy mechanics

[tulip thorn]

It was really easy

Just had to take the suez and gibralter

and it was over for them

Formed greater italy just shortly after declaring

[heavy vigil]

they cant convoy raid you after you take it so sorta

[deep solstice]

Do I have to go to war with the baltics?

(justify war goal)

im assuming this means i have to manually justify

[split bane]

You should get decisions to annex them that they will always accept on historical
Also if you do Molotov Ribbentrop you will automatically get your Polish claims when Germany caps Poland

[viscid coyote]

POV average urban tiles

[prime lintel]

Scheisse

[deep solstice]

now poland

listen here buddy

🤤

[valid prairie]

any ways to cheese the new faction system?

[viscid coyote]

Get a goal

Like defeat the facists

Then

After you defeat Facist nation you defeat multiple

It stacks

The bonuses at the end

For one mission

[valid prairie]

Ok thanks

[vital mural]

is deathstacking/doomstacking still good or do I actually have to put in effort to organize the navy

[deep solstice]

border conflict of doom

just my little speck in their planes

[vernal river]

Im pretty sure the AI is just as confused about new naval mechanics as i am

[heavy vigil]

or maybe they know and you dont

patrol gives supremacy

strike force keeps supremacy (uses fuel now)

battles and like convoy raiding reduce it

[vernal river]

well yeah i get the basics

[heavy vigil]

you no longer have infinite range

[vernal river]

what im trying to say is the AI sucks at naval invasions more than before

[heavy vigil]

yeah they have less chances to land

[vernal river]

was playing as china and after switching nations to america, uk and japan to see what was going on they all have navies that are fine, but its 1947 and the allies just arent trying to win the naval war

so after they beat germany and are on the way to beating the soviets they’re still letting japan hold onto southeast asia

[heavy vigil]

based

its because they have no naval supply hub i think

they need one for range

you can make one on guam and you can use the philippines

[vernal river]

so im sitting here getting bombed to dust by a japan with actual good supply and industry trying to not die, and the allies are being useless

[visual sorrel]

god help me i've decided to join this server because i sorta care about vanilla

[heavy vigil]

in what way?

[vernal river]

well yeah i figured that out after i played USA and speedrunned ww2 as a way to vent for how unfulfilling my china game was

alot more naval micro is needed

[visual sorrel]

Multiple ways: I regrettably became an achievement hunter at some point and even worse I care about the details of interwar/WW2 history

these have been a rough few patches for me

[heavy vigil]

oh yeah

hoi4 has never been realistic and theres really no development towards wanting to make it so

so its tough

[visual sorrel]

see, i actually kinda disagree

[heavy vigil]

well, hmm

before id say man the guns they were focused on historical

and getting a bit more but similar success to hoi3

[vernal river]

does AI USA have trouble managing fleet range/naval dominance or something

[heavy vigil]

what really made hoi4 pop off and stand out are the alt history paths/alternate possibilties (to players)

[vernal river]

oh yeah if people played grand strategy for realism maybe hoi3 would still be fairly big today

[visual sorrel]

this DLC goes to lengths to try to go into detail about Japanese and Chinese politics. There's a focus in Tojo's branch to create the National Defense Brotherhood/Gokoku Doshikai, an organization so obscure that as far as I know there's only one English-language source that's written about it

[heavy vigil]

mhm

they did a lot of research for japan

[vernal river]

realism is not the same as immersion

[heavy vigil]

its probably why the game had less time to be tested

because sources/material as anyone interested in japan/china know are... rough at best

[visual sorrel]

the problem, however, is that the focus desc misunderstands what the Gokoku Doshikai was completely

[viscid coyote]

Norwegian fortifications circa 1936

[visual sorrel]

it's a really frustrating pattern in this DLC, there's a lot of research done and the team clearly really did care, but the end result is just wrong. I feel kinda terrible about it because I like what they were trying to do but it ends up as nails-on-a-chalkboard

[vernal river]

so are you saying they tried too hard and missed the mark or that they should just make the details as close to authentic as possible

[quasi shoal]

was this on purpose or is this a bug

[viscid coyote]

Towed artillery

[viscid coyote]

Sheesh

[tulip thorn]

No more Eiffel tower

[vernal river]

nothing of value was lost

🫡

[tulip thorn]

Lmao

[viscid coyote]

Yo imagine your a Portuguese here and you see the Japanese across the bay reading up Hong Kong

[visual sorrel]

i guess what I'm saying is that I admire the intent but the current position feels like it's become the worst of both worlds. Obviously people aren't going to take meme content like nuclear Gandhi seriously, but people are more likely to take the devs at their word on things like "Japanese communists were anti-Soviet"

[tulip thorn]

Is it just me, or does this kinda look like Harran from dying light

[viscid coyote]

Oh

Hmmm idk

How about this photo

[visual sorrel]

this is the sincere understanding the devs have, but unfortunately it's just incorrect

[tulip thorn]

That direction has too many tall and fancy buildings

[vernal river]

So are you more concerned with the game being more authentic for the sake of the game being more authentic or for the sake of people misinterpreting aspects of history portrayed in the game?

[viscid swift]

guys hear me out paradox should add rockets into the game and space exploration so that the german reich can be named as the galactic reich and so that the reichsautobahn will be named as the Galaktischesreichsautobahn (same for the german empire, galactic empire and make the autobahn be named Galaktischeskaiserreichsautobahn)

[earnest wadi]

So play Hoi4 until you have conquered the world and then move to Stellaris

[tulip thorn]

Stellaris

[clear dagger]

its beautiful

[tulip thorn]

Now beat germany

[clear dagger]

soon™

[viscid swift]

now take over the world

and proclaim yourself as the galactic luxemburg

[clear dagger]

gonna take the benelux by having belgium and netherlands free themselves like the balkens so i can eat them

[viscid swift]

YO A GAME EXISTS LIKE THAT

[viscid swift]

bro's gonna straight up be caseoh

[clear dagger]

warhammer 40 thousand year reich

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for some reason balken germany has cores on the entire planet

[viscid swift]

balken germany is just palpatine then

[clear dagger]

they also literally just have germany's flag lmao