hoi4-general

[clear dagger]

i didnt research that

and why am i locked out of that

[pseudo rose]

You've got this

[misty minnow]

They make him wear the Phillipines army uniform

[tulip thorn]

I must find out how to do this

[celest dirge]

What do strike force missions actually do with dominance ?

[tulip thorn]

I dont even want juan the 3rd anymore

[ripe slate]

lol

[misty minnow]

Don't forget the ultimate focus

Bonus, 15% factory output

Negative, WAR ON AMERICA

[tulip thorn]

Juan the 3rd is boring if I can get Douglas MacArthur as a leader

[misty minnow]

Im pretty sure the nuke focuses all require MacArthur too

[ripe slate]

I wonder if you could go communist and MacArthur and time the independence war with that focus so you get the scripted peace

[runic wraith]

wtf is this

[ripe slate]

No Step Back armor tree

[tulip thorn]

Thats the tank system from no step back

The best thing ever

[misty minnow]

Mac Arthur is non aligned apparently

[runic wraith]

jesus christ its complicated

[tulip thorn]

Not really

[dapper star]

is it intentional that you dont get the new dlc with monthly subscription still?

[tulip thorn]

Looks like it at first

[ripe slate]

I know, I helped develop Philippines

[misty minnow]

O

[ripe slate]

But the communist path the anger mechanic, I wonder if you could activate that while also going MacArthur

Actually nvm you cant, the focus to start is must be mutually exclusive

[tulip thorn]

[runic wraith]

i didnt like navy before but now its even worse

nahhh why is navy like that

[tulip thorn]

Its even better with the dlc

[rare crow]

The Japanese focus tree is a bit weird

[runic wraith]

super complicated

[limpid field]

really cool thing they added are faction symbols

[misty minnow]

My friend turned the Phillipines uniform Mac Arthur into an emote

[tulip thorn]

Not really

Alot of it is useless

Should I restart to get MacArthur

screw it

Juan the 3rd sucks now

[clear dagger]

yes get the BigMacArthur

[ripe slate]

Juan is a lot stronger than MacArthur tbf

[limpid field]

but not cooler

[tulip thorn]

Well yeah

[ripe slate]

Perhaps

[tulip thorn]

But he doesnt have swag

[runic wraith]

commie chine is so weak after no compromise no surrender

[tulip thorn]

MacArthur has swag and aura

[ripe slate]

Be aware you get some free units through events

(Which are great for the border wars you can do)

[random venture]

i hate when hoi4 pdates

broke my entire game

cant even play pure vanilla

[limpid field]

you can change your version and disable dlcs

[random venture]

didnt say anything about dlcs btw

since i own none

[limpid field]

wrong

there's a free poland dlc

[random venture]

k

[tulip thorn]

and man the guns is free aswell

[random venture]

yeh but i cant even play pure vanilla anymore bruh

[random venture]

not anymore its now integrated into the game

you cant disable it

i had this same problem a while back but only with mods and now i cant even play vanilla

and the only fix was reseting my entire pc

amazing game

[ripe slate]

or bad pc

🏃‍♂️‍➡️

[uncut carbon]

Or bad game

[random venture]

well my specs are well beyond recommended

my pc is not broken in anyway

and i have stock windows 11

[slim nexus]

You have just to sit there until they finish alls their man power and walk to berlin

Assuming you do not die first

[celest dirge]

WTH? It way more streamline with new dlc.

[random venture]

and 1.16.10 works perfectly

[limpid field]

you can now invite countries that are already in a faction?

[ripe slate]

Is this with or without the new DLC?

[limpid field]

with

[ripe slate]

Odd

[lavish cliff]

china is worse with the dlc now

[heavy vigil]

like weaker?

or what

i wouldnt say its worse but it is weaker

[misty fossil]

where is this naval headquarter thing

i dont see it in here (and its rt56 btw)

[lavish cliff]

weaker

before the dlc I can defend japan easily

now not so much

communist china on the other hand is overpowered

[sudden thistle]

I think u have like 12 factories too lol

[lavish cliff]

yeah 💔

[fossil dragon]

Most likely not in the mod yet

[misty fossil]

hm i see

[fossil dragon]

And what you all think about new japan focus tree?

https://tenor.com/view/doge-dogecoin-samurai-ronin-bushido-gif-26524943

I like it, even more than a soviet one

[sudden thistle]

Yet to touch it

[lavish cliff]

it's real nice

[fossil dragon]

Any one did escort carriers if yes can you tell me are they good or just mid

[tulip thorn]

Pretty great

[sudden thistle]

Not the best

Not the worst either

Just a carrier but cut in half

For everything

[fossil dragon]

Ok I'll try them next when i go democracy

[cedar lance]

bruh

[cedar jackal]

peak update guys. absolute peak

[fossil dragon]

Maybe mass spam will work but we'll see

[sudden thistle]

This keeps happening

[misty fossil]

why does it say im out of oil even though i have oil?

[atomic grove]

i am actually losing my mind over this

[sudden thistle]

Idk why

[atomic grove]

why is new japan ai so smart

[cedar lance]

i tried to launch hoi4 with NCNS and it crashed my game

[fossil dragon]

Yeah it's new dlc so just try it few times it should work

[sudden thistle]

The supply logistics thingy?

[misty fossil]

whats that?

[atomic grove]

at this point ill just hold till usa comes

[sudden thistle]

Box that says 70% in red

Forgot the name

[lavish cliff]

check files with steam

[tulip thorn]

The government will be back soon

[fossil dragon]

Supply status?

[sudden thistle]

Close enough

[fossil dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-well-be-right-back-flying-in-minecraft-meme-gif-20705289

[misty fossil]

dont know what that is

you mean the ones in this top row?

[fossil dragon]

It tells you if you need more trains or trucks

[misty fossil]

oh

[fossil dragon]

So 70% means 70% of logistics is fild

[misty fossil]

logistics fulfillment

i switched back to horses

[sudden thistle]

Thats my only guess ngl

[misty fossil]

yeah ur right

that box went away

[fossil dragon]

Nice just keep it on 100%

[misty fossil]

cheers

[tulip thorn]

He is so tuff

[fossil dragon]

Ah yes good old Douglas now whit new drip

[tulip thorn]

Indeed

[crude dragon]

what country is thus

this

[sour hare]

Which one is better for japan guys

[tulip thorn]

Philippines

[misty fossil]

i can only research one subdoctrine at a time?

or can i do all of them

[misty fossil]

what are these stats?

[copper cobalt]

o.O

[fossil dragon]

I like grand assult

[jaunty delta]

yea i just cant find the china's wargoal

where the f is it lmao

[sour hare]

ı choose rapid domination but ı will try this

[sour hare]

decisions

kwantung army

this focus removes 420 days from this decision

[jaunty delta]

oh, damn thats a bit confusing. thanks

[sour hare]

more historical btw

[midnight shore]

is this normal

[viscid swift]

how in the world did that happen

[analog wave]

Does the fps map mod not work?

[midnight shore]

yeah

[midnight shore]

i swear i dont even know

im literally on ironman historical

[analog wave]

How does that mod even get affected by updates

[viscid swift]

[analog wave]

I still have it enabled, can't hurt really right

[midnight shore]

idk man

[midnight shore]

it just puts the map to normal

not fps

[analog wave]

I know but restarting the game just to disable it is such a slog

[valid solar]

Ai peace deals be like

[midnight shore]

its 1936

[viscid swift]

guys should i go for wilhelm II or the kaiserin if i wanna wreak havoc upon the world

[valid solar]

What faction shi happened

[sour hare]

Comrade zedong

[valid solar]

Wilhelm

[analog wave]

Hey look at this spy view still has the maps

[viscid swift]

guys btw does wilhelm II die after a while

[sour hare]

Peak art btw

[viscid swift]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-raccoon-absolute-cinema-gif-17862327649353748812

[midnight shore]

i think its rng

[wicked haven]

Yes

And you get Wilhelm III who is quite a bit worse

[viscid swift]

welp

[fierce mist]

holy cooked got cuaght cheating on math test

[eternal palm]

Just get victoria

[eternal palm]

Skill issue

Cheat better smh

[midnight shore]

whats the best fighter doctrine in new dlc

[viscid swift]

or i'll get this

[eternal palm]

Cheating

Victoria is better anyhow

[viscid swift]

eh i'll go for wilhelm

[fierce mist]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-meme-gif-468341328098124204

[leaden wagon]

Anyone here complaining about the price of the new DLC?

[fierce mist]

yes

30 euros is to much

[eternal palm]

Everyone

[fierce mist]

14,99 is what i should be

[midnight shore]

just get a job

[leaden wagon]

The value to price is not worth it even with a job

[eternal palm]

It's not that we can't afford it, its that we simply don't wanna pay 30 bucks for DLC content

[sudden thistle]

Everyone

I got it for free and I still don’t like the price

[leaden wagon]

How did u get it for free?

[fossil dragon]

Willham II has way more aura

[sudden thistle]

U gotta know the right type of person

🤫

Jokes aside a friend gifted me it

[fallen vigil]

does thailand have a focus tree?

[midnight shore]

how much is the expansion pass?

[leaden wagon]

30 euros

[fallen vigil]

30 euros isnt that expensive i mean

[leaden wagon]

no

[fallen vigil]

its not like you HAVE to buy it

[leaden wagon]

I'd only buy it because of the factions update

[midnight shore]

isnt there a bunch of other stuff in the expansion pass also

[sudden thistle]

Yes

Thunder at the gates (Australia, DEI, and New Zealand)

The Czechoslovakia one being made by rt56 devs

[eternal palm]

50

[atomic grove]

did hoi4 make casualties deadlier

[eternal palm]

What 💀

[atomic grove]

oh

[leaden wagon]

Ayooooooo

[atomic grove]

i cant tell

[leaden wagon]

I don't think so

Depends on what you're doing

Micromanaging has always less casualties

[drifting kiln]

can we just remove yugoslavia from the game -_-

[leaden wagon]

NO

[drifting kiln]

im pretty sure its impossible for ai to have nice borders here

[fallen vigil]

is there a focus tree for thailand?

pretty weird if there isnt

[leaden wagon]

No

[copper cobalt]

that comes later

The next dlc

[leaden wagon]

Albania doesn’t have one either and it’s in the heart of europe

[copper cobalt]

It's in the current content pack

[atomic grove]

btw did gbp get nerfed

[woven dragon]

Wait till he learns about Ireland and Luxembourg

[atomic grove]

actually no thats a stupid question

nevermind

[copper cobalt]

Didn't Luxembourg get one?

[atomic grove]

there will be

[copper cobalt]

In gotodemorng

[woven dragon]

No, but got new portraits

[atomic grove]

no

[copper cobalt]

Ah

I'm misremembering

[atomic grove]

honestly what content would they even add for luxembourg

besides post ww2 content if they want to

[leaden wagon]

Idk they would need heavy core expansion

Cuz of the low manpower

[celest dirge]

How is meta going on?

[leaden wagon]

Probably taking cores of benelux

[atomic grove]

unless its going to be something like the post capitulation focus trees of belgium/philippines

[atomic grove]

the only thing that they can add is alt history content

idk luxembourg history besides their old territories in the ardennes and rhine

[fallen vigil]

what

what will the other dlc include

[atomic grove]

australia, indonesia, and thailand updates

[copper cobalt]

Yeh

[sour hare]

Yo what

[atomic grove]

idk about malaysia

and new zealand

[copper cobalt]

Not Malaysia?

[leaden wagon]

Tf is coal in the new update?

[tulip thorn]

Nope

[atomic grove]

factory fuel

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[leaden wagon]

Whaaat

[atomic grove]

meaning u cant just have an ungodly amount of factories and resources

[cedar lance]

it works now the NCNS DLC

[atomic grove]

if u dont have enough coal, u get reduced factory output

the higher the coal deficit, the shittier your factory output gets

[tulip thorn]

it also effects construction speed

From what i've seen, it nerfs construction speed first

[vague abyss]

ladies 1 by one please

[cedar lance]

just played with the NEW NCNS dlc

i made a couple few ranger templates

[tulip thorn]

I've done, i've got to 2k hours

[spare creek]

@vague abyss drop code

[eternal palm]

Rookie numbers

Smh

[sour hare]

ı sell my soul

[vague abyss]

u leave ur pc on overnight

[eternal palm]

Thats cheating

I played 6k hours with close to no afk hours

[misty fossil]

help i did the reinforce east hebei focus and killed the one warlord state that occupied beijing, and that didnt draw the chinese united front in

[eternal palm]

Get on my lvl

[misty fossil]

what do

[leaden wagon]

How do I know which production lines use coal?

[misty fossil]

touch grass

[ivory hull]

every factory uses coal

[eternal palm]

?

So?

[copper cobalt]

Can you rush nuke tech?

[vague abyss]

i achieved more than u

[vague abyss]

by '41 '42

[misty fossil]

hi please help?

[eternal palm]

I beg your fking pardon

I said rookie numbers

[vague abyss]

u leave ur pc on overnight all mine are legit

[misty fossil]

creep my dawg

[vague abyss]

we are two different people

[misty fossil]

help me

[limpid field]

i think i found a bug

[eternal palm]

I literally don't

[vague abyss]

sure

[eternal palm]

Bro were flexing how many hours we got in a fking video game

Bros mad that I got more

Lmao

[limpid field]

my peace deals didnt generate any world tension

or is that a feature

[sour hare]

can ı see your decisions

[whole solstice]

it says the host has another game version but only the (15b9) thing is different, anyone have solutions?\

[limpid field]

probably mods dont match

oops sorry for caps

[eternal palm]

That's literally what that means. The checksum is how u know that you have different versions

U need to match the checksum

Otherwise it won't work

[vague abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/jew-jews-jewish-jump-happy-gif-1531468640197245258

[eternal palm]

Checksum is affected by mods and version so make sure you have the same mods as the host

[misty fossil]

none that gives war goals against china

[eternal palm]

Graphical mods don't affect checksum

[whole solstice]

we have the same versions, same mods, i thought it was that at first but it didnt fix

[eternal palm]

Well smth gotta give

Also Holy based pfp

[sour hare]

can you open emperors cons tab ?

[misty fossil]

there was the kwantung army grows restless which would have fired the marco polo event, but doing the east hebei decision gave me that so i declared war on that clique anyway

[amber finch]

any beginner tips?

[limpid field]

yeah all of my conference demands dont make world tension

[misty fossil]

why?

[mild flame]

even though it took me till 49 to achieve this i guess its worth it

[misty fossil]

its unrelated and im on historical

[sour hare]

are you playing historical off ?

[hushed geode]

You gotta watch for the manchurian army growing impatient

[misty fossil]

no

[misty fossil]

ive already conquered beijing

[sour hare]

why puyi seeks independence ?

[misty fossil]

RT56 stuff

[hushed geode]

Does anyone know if the new faction tab is DLC or vanilla

[misty fossil]

irrelevant to my question lol

vanilla

[limpid field]

no

[hushed geode]

I looked for it yesterday how do I get it

[misty fossil]

shouldnt it be vanilla

[hushed geode]

Idk where to see it tbh

[whole solstice]

in the launcher its the same, but once we get into the game it changes, imma try again

[eternal palm]

That's weird

Verify game files

[misty fossil]

how many fleet carriers should i have as japan

[eternal palm]

Clear cache

Maybe reinstall

[eternal palm]

19282883.6

[misty fossil]

vanilla navy is so confusing

[bold rune]

I’ve gone 4k hours without learning navy, I just spam naval bombers

[misty fossil]

i just play with a naval mod that actually forces you to play navy

ironically i find that mod easier to digest

and this one is just... deathstack??

[icy crescent]

When you liberate states, it actually reduces world tension.
... somewhat. Depends on how much you annex/puppet.

[indigo elk]

It probably should but I dont believe it is

So silly question, how do you go to war with China as Japan? I see the tree but no Annex or puppet war goals

[icy crescent]

I don't have the DLC.
I did not see an own faction tab.

[fallen vigil]

rip skibidy san ma

[icy crescent]

Without DLC it still exists.

[regal heron]

should i accept

[solemn quartz]

Uhm... anyone else noticed this yet?

Micro is dead

[limpid field]

i liberated exactly 0 states

[misty fossil]

you also cant micro units in vic3 and see where that get them

pdx cant learn

[icy crescent]

I never used the garrison order on enemy land.
Non of my friends used that either.
Must be a multiplayer/sweater thing.

[solemn quartz]

Yes... quite a big one actually

[limpid field]

rate this peace deal from 0 to 10

[eternal palm]

They're fixing it

#ask-for-help-here

[icy crescent]

Maybe I have a brick in front of my brain but a frontline automatically generates planning bonus.
Sooo what's up with the Garrison order then?

[solemn quartz]

Saw it

Thx

[eternal palm]

Basically, before yesterday there used to be a method with which you could micro your unitd freely while still gaining planning

[icy crescent]

Nvm, individual movement of single divisions was disabled.
That's what it was trying to say.

[eternal palm]

For some reason they removed planning on fm frontlines

[solemn quartz]

However: "we didnt realize how important this was to our MP community"

Tf u mean?

Didn't you hold tournaments?

[eternal palm]

Ye bro is a bit special

[solemn quartz]

[eternal palm]

He's playing dumb

[solemn quartz]

Ye prob

Also, fellow German xD

Ma man

[misty fossil]

its 38 and chinese front only has mao and chiang kai shek??

what is going on

[solemn quartz]

Way more schizo paths in this dlc

Trust

[limpid field]

i got one of the rarest achievements 100% no lie

[fervent estuary]

How do you play as communist China

[sudden thistle]

That’s because it’s new 😭

[limpid field]

i dont believe you

source?

[misty fossil]

april 38 and no war with china

most bug free rt56 game

[sour hare]

I love cosmatic tags

[icy crescent]

Best thing about the update?
You can form Greater Mongolia.

[slim nexus]

Raaaaaahhh

[sudden thistle]

Good point

And how did no-one notice the Albania tree

[north spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/sir-yes-sir-oorah-cat-emotional-gif-23930229

[icy crescent]

That's part of Götterdämmerung Austro-Hungary.
Did they add sth new-new?

[coral gorge]

lmao this DLC is so good to have as Finland

5% manpower with just 125 xp

[north spoke]

All roads lead to albania

[limpid field]

paradox please fix soviets AI

[tulip thorn]

Yeah but no coal

[coral gorge]

just buy

or take

[north spoke]

You lose civs tho

[coral gorge]

"if you don't have something, take it from your neighbors"

[north spoke]

This

[coral gorge]

battleplan build

[north spoke]

324k losses to 61k is diabolical

[tulip thorn]

The closest coal to finland is southern sweden

[coral gorge]

wrong

closest is actually Moscow

🔆

[north spoke]

Coal was just put a shitload of coal in one state type shit

It's so ass

The modders need to save this update

[tulip thorn]

yeah

[coral gorge]

ok, hmm, for Finland

[copper sluice]

oh so the danish just insult anyone not just the swedish

[coral gorge]

prep is easier with DLC

but harder to push into Soviet

[patent thistle]

soon.

[coral gorge]

the lack of mass mob is a critical weakness

[tulip thorn]

Isnt mass mob terrible now

[coral gorge]

there is no mass mob anymore

only mass assault

[tulip thorn]

Thats what I meant

[coral gorge]

that's different things

[tulip thorn]

Yes I know

[coral gorge]

well no, not really

MA is probably still much better than SFP for most minor

SFP is very shit early game

they have shit army spirits

milestone bonuses are very, very far away

so 0.60 org reg is irrelevant

[amber finch]

so overwhealming this game 😄

[regal heron]

fr

[copper sluice]

so how do I say yes?

[fossil dragon]

I once got 30k to around 1.2 milion

[real forge]

Why does it lag so much when I go into solutions?

[fossil dragon]

What do you mean?

[azure dagger]

That pretty much happened irl

[real forge]

When I switch to the "Solutions" tab, the game starts freezing violently. This has happened before with various DLCs, but I suspect it will be fixed.

[coral gorge]

wow I actually had difficulties rushing Soviets as Finland now

[limpid field]

i puppeted all of this and it didnt generate even 1% of world tension

[regal heron]

what are even the point if they're my allies

[fading elk]

Least insane Czech game

[north spoke]

Gorder bore

[fossil dragon]

Non waste of pp

[north spoke]

Czechoslovakia players are a different breed of genius

[north spoke]

I just invade Bulgaria

Bulgaria never joins wars

[fossil dragon]

Next dlc will go crazy

[regal heron]

damn

[north spoke]

I just invade the whole Balkans

I want it all for myself

[regal heron]

dawg

[coral gorge]

☠️ wow, I took so long that Barb even started

[fossil dragon]

For once i see anoter player that just say annex

[north spoke]

Those sweet sweet Romanian oil fields

[regal heron]

yea they asking for territory in balkan though,reasonable shi

[fossil dragon]

I respect you brother

[regal heron]

real shi

[north spoke]

I only puppet big countries

[fossil dragon]

Well i annex or make colab goverments

[north spoke]

Sometimes il use reichskommisariat+ so I can annex and puppet simultaneously

I can integrate most European reichskommisariats

[coral gorge]

love the new peace

no more WT spike

[merry urchin]

Are certain features of the NCNS like new doctrine, japan focus tree part of the base game?

[fossil dragon]

You can annex them over time and you gain all of their stuf

[north spoke]

Did you straight up annex the ussr?

[coral gorge]

yeah

[fossil dragon]

Best

[north spoke]

I mean, the ussr got Finland

[fossil dragon]

You know how to play

[merry urchin]

I'm curious why I have these features without buying NCNS, and hoping it wasn't a imstake

[north spoke]

They also just became finland

[north spoke]

Some features were added to base game

New trees and stuff werent

[fossil dragon]

No some stuff like new doctrines are added for free

[merry urchin]

Oh okay, thank yolu

[analog wave]

Does anyone know an fps map alternative

[fossil dragon]

Base game

[north spoke]

Default hoi4 map

[analog wave]

Base hoi4 map is ugly as hell

[fossil dragon]

It's 2 map whit low rezz 3d models

[north spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/reddit-reddit-gold-kind-stranger-slot-machine-gif-9286172767555917428

[fossil dragon]

I can say the same for CK3 and europa universals

[analog wave]

Never played those, I just like my country to have a bit of colour

Instead of looking like some watery mess

[coral gorge]

hmm new DLC is making it too hard for AI China ngl

it isn't even because Japan is strong

China simply got much weaker

[fossil dragon]

Well every one likes different looks

[fossil dragon]

No if you play as it you can hold bejing

[coral gorge]

doesn't matter

it is not about you

[fossil dragon]

But ai is well ai

[coral gorge]

cuz we can do it

so we are irrelevant

it doesn't make China any stronger

if I play Japan, you will die in less than a year

and vice versa

[fossil dragon]

Ai is ai they'll patch it

[coral gorge]

[fossil dragon]

Well true but in sp ai is not good just wait 1 week and a patch will come out to balance it out

[autumn abyss]

Hello

[coral gorge]

nah no way it will come

[real forge]

Time freezes a lot

[fossil dragon]

Auto save

[autumn abyss]

Umm guys I think I messed up

[fossil dragon]

Turn off iron man

[coral gorge]

oh, now US gets a debuff

[fossil dragon]

First in hoi4 history

[real forge]

I can't complete achievements without it.

[fossil dragon]

I know the pain

[tulip thorn]

back in the real early days of hoi4, didnt the us have a focus that would cause damage to boats if the japanese declared

[fossil dragon]

I also grind achievements

[tulip thorn]

And it was one of the worst focuses in all of hoi4

[coral gorge]

yeah,

well

it was the Pearl Harbor Gambit

[real forge]

I think this will be fixed soon.

[tulip thorn]

yeah thats what it was called

[coral gorge]

the focus felt as though it catered to the narrative that the USA baited Japanese attack in order to get into the war

which was probably true

[fossil dragon]

New dlc we can just wait for a patch

[real forge]

By the way, this was in the DLC for South America.

[worn coral]

this new dlc is fire for the 3 china players

[fossil dragon]

Oh idk then sry

[tidal crane]

why does the launcher not launch when not using proton then 🥹

[spiral sphinx]

China lwk nerfed

[worn coral]

i know

it just got split into more pieces

[fossil dragon]

Well japan attacked pearl harbor since the growing us navy in the pacific and felt they will be attacked so they tried pre emptive strike

[icy crescent]

China starts with way less divisions without DLC than before.

[real forge]

I mean, this has already been fixed for the DLC in South America.

[fossil dragon]

I only get that after 1944

What is your build

[coral gorge]

remember, just because PDX fixed something, does not mean that something starts working

[jovial matrix]

I can't find that style

In the dlc

[spiral sphinx]

Japan can do sea invasions war better now

Way

[jovial matrix]

Help

[fossil dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/nods-yes-not-wrong-its-true-story-valid-point-gif-14782869

[paper echo]

WHERE IS MA BUFANG

[jaunty heath]

My glorious king ma bufang

I lust over ma bufang

[paper echo]

WHO IS THIS RANDOM PERSON

[fossil dragon]

Is there ho-chi-min new portrait for comi vietnam

[spiral sphinx]

Ma lin

[fossil dragon]

Hope it is

[sinful fjord]

Very cool new DLC. Thanks to Paradox!

[paper echo]

random guy

[jaunty heath]

I have no clue

[spiral sphinx]

Ma lin

[paper echo]

nobody cares about ma lin

[spiral sphinx]

Ma lin...

[paper echo]

i know you can still play as ma bufang but idk how

[left grotto]

Does anybody have the new DLC file by any chance? 🥺

[copper sluice]

these are some thicc asf starting divs

[spiral sphinx]

Innit

[copper sluice]

how do I know which company I want to use?

[paper echo]

MA BUFANG

[left grotto]

they demoted my guy to a general 🙁

[paper echo]

he can still be leader

saw it on a stream

idk how tho

[copper sluice]

well osaka army arsenal buffs production efficiency so ig thats good

[left grotto]

Btw please send me the file of the dlc

[stuck lily]

sad they nerfed collab govts, i kinda get it but like bruh it was the only spy operation anyone ever did, the rest r worthless

just refund us la resistance at this point lol

[astral snow]

Guys i need help if i have the subscription do i get the new dlc? Because it seems that i didnt

[tulip thorn]

The nerf isnt the worst

And to be honest

It needed a nerf

They were so op

[stuck lily]

and i do get that to a degree

[weak schooner]

u do collab so that u can get collab progress

[stuck lily]

and the nerf isnt world ending sure

[weak schooner]

for more factories

[stuck lily]

just kinda a shame, its the only operation worth anything

[weak schooner]

walking a few tile more is not a big deal 😂

[stuck lily]

be nice if they made the others suck less

[paper echo]

bruh

[tulip thorn]

Its still really really good

[paper echo]

first game btw 💀

[iron helm]

they murdered skibidi san ma...

[tulip thorn]

You can reform with ma bufang dont worry

[copper sluice]

the soundtracks u get when playing japan man

[iron helm]

i can make a joke with ma here

[stuck lily]

the legend returns

[paper echo]

how do you get ma bufang

[iron helm]

also

can you still do the non-aggro exploit as china

[tulip thorn]

He still exists in one of the warlords

[empty plume]

is the new doctrine and faction system only for the dlc

[jaunty heath]

No

[paper echo]

qinghai ma

he is a general

but idk how to get him as a leader

[tulip thorn]

I actually dont know if you can

[iron helm]

wiat

wait

[paper echo]

you can

[iron helm]

did... mengkukuo...

[paper echo]

i saw it on a stream

[iron helm]

lost the.. naval bomber trait

[tulip thorn]

I have no idea

[paper echo]

he was a leader

[tulip thorn]

I havent played any of china yet

[paper echo]

found it

[iron helm]

did my goat prince demchugdongrub got his wings clipped

[tulip thorn]

I never really liked playing china

I will be playing as the communists though

[little owl]

How do I form the Eternal Empire as Japan?

What path?

[iron helm]

first you have to lose the taiwan war first

then you must put the revanchist in power

wait wrong mod

[tulip thorn]

There he is

[iron helm]

MA BUFANG

REFORM SKIBIDI SAN MA

also is playing as china in this new dlc as fun as the old china

[tulip thorn]

If only he could

[coral gorge]

well you get more stuffs to do

[iron helm]

don't tell me they killed the non-aggro exploit

[paper echo]

doing it for him

[tulip thorn]

Thats a really great question, I personally never really found playing as republican china fun. But I have heard that communist china is pretty fun

[iron helm]

i find it fun

I LOVE FIGHTING IN LOW SUPPLY TERRAIN

i wonder

[onyx hinge]

killed 3 million Japanese as China only to lose becuase the raj and Burma can’t hold a front to save there lives😢

[iron helm]

how many bermontian poland enjoyer are there

[fossil dragon]

Well a lot

[tulip thorn]

I love how the american ai is death stacking in guam

[fossil dragon]

If you love poland you love all paths

[fossil dragon]

Nuke them

[iron helm]

i enjoy bermontian the most

[tulip thorn]

I might later on

[paper echo]

SKIBIDI SAN MA

[tulip thorn]

Need to deal with the japanese first

[fossil dragon]

I like comonwelth

Like wojtek one

[random venture]

i cant play the new update at all
it freezes and is kinda zoomed in in the main menu and i cant click anything
old versions work fine
can anyone help?

[iron helm]

romanov takes too long

also is it just me or does hoi4's performance gets worse every update

[tulip thorn]

Yeah

Thats what happens when new mechanics and focuses are added

[icy crescent]

Outdated game engine gets more complicated tasks to deal with.

[tulip thorn]

Due to more calculations

[tulip thorn]

this aswell

[coral gorge]

hmm, ngl, this would have been somewhat painful without cheesing

[iron helm]

how old is clausewitz atp

[misty fossil]

does dive brakes help with naval combat

[tulip thorn]

Like 20

[icy crescent]

2007 first use.

[iron helm]

it can almost drink alcohol in the usa

[tulip thorn]

so like 18 years

thats insane

[iron helm]

insane

js get a new engine pls paradox

[icy crescent]

Worst thing about it?
Engine that works with Single Core only.

[random venture]

it can drink in europe

[iron helm]

please paradox i need this

[crystal sandal]

ghost planning is dead. why does paradox hate multiplayer

[iron helm]

my laptop is kinda burninf

[random venture]

real

i cant even play anymore

every update breaks the game for me

[iron helm]

slop

[random venture]

last time i had to reset my pc to get it working

[iron helm]

tbh i despise special projects

[random venture]

not restart RESET

[merry bloom]

can i do anything if another country naval blockades me?

[crystal sandal]

leave a negative review on the new dlc

[iron helm]

someone gotta replace pdx bro

[crystal sandal]

facts

L game update

[zinc light]

I Like em, it Just that everything Takes far too long

[regal heron]

like embargo?

[zinc light]

Build the facility
Do the Research
Build the new Thing
Include the new Thing

[urban tiger]

Anyone have any idea what the new update is?

[zinc light]

It's slop

[urban tiger]

Oh, it's up.

Hotfix

[crystal sandal]

yeah its trash

[random venture]

i wanna play china so much bruh

in the new update

but i cant even open the country selection

[ocean reef]

What are the new provinces added?

[random venture]

piece of crap game

[urban tiger]

I wanna nuke China. GG.

[ocean reef]

Ok

[crystal sandal]

slop game

[tulip thorn]

Now you just need ma bufang

[random venture]

broken for me bruh

[shrewd inlet]

Heyo

[hollow silo]

japan

[crystal sandal]

make a negative review on steam

[random venture]

well i can play older versions

but yeah

[shrewd inlet]

The tree looked pretty cool

[random venture]

im gonna make one

[normal zinc]

Hello, iw it juat me or is the dlc seem overpriced?

[paper echo]

doing it rn

[shrewd inlet]

Japan is crippled

[tulip thorn]

Give me some of that navy america

MacArthur needs it

[shrewd inlet]

Omg princess twilight

[shrewd inlet]

They always are

[normal zinc]

What comes free with the update without the dlc?

[shrewd inlet]

Shrug

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/twistim-mlp-my-little-pony-happy-twilight-sparkle-gif-6481078317428471599

[hollow silo]

clique focus tree are still bad

[ocean reef]

Hoi4 is not slop game

[random venture]

yes i said paradox needs to die also in my new review

[shrewd inlet]

Yes it is

[ocean reef]

Fire pfp

[normal zinc]

Devs are slop

[shrewd inlet]

It’s fairly well made, it’s just slop

[ocean reef]

And profile

[crystal sandal]

good work mate, im proud of you. helping the community

[shrewd inlet]

But we all eat up the wslop

[normal zinc]

Not devs. The heads who decide monetization

[crystal sandal]

yes it is

[shrewd inlet]

KMT China is extremely fun though

[random venture]

there is so much slop that i cannot eat it up anymore since i CANT EVEN PLAY THE GAME

[normal zinc]

I am from the Philippines and was excited for the dlc but im not paying for this BS

[random venture]

anymore

[paper echo]

MA BUFAAAAAAAANG

[shrewd inlet]

Is there no MacArthur Stratocracy?

[tulip thorn]

Will Macarthur Philippines secret path make you play it

[paper echo]

F

[shrewd inlet]

Idk this dlc has its hits and misses

[shrewd inlet]

Is he busted like his og trait

[normal zinc]

Macarthur can eat my .... my grandfather had to walk the death march because of his incompetence.

[crystal sandal]

he is from the philippines the DLC probably costs a month wage

[shrewd inlet]

Yeah GG

[tulip thorn]

Well thats macarthur, all bark no bite

[crystal sandal]

no one outside the US gives a shite about macarthur

[tulip thorn]

You do get nukes really fast with him

[tulip thorn]

I dont lmao

Its just a schizo path that gives you nukes

[normal zinc]

Man... i would have died if i walked the death march. Good thing my grandpa escaped. Well, i wouldnt be here if he hadnt

[shrewd inlet]

I think he’s alright

I do prefer Patton and Eisenhower

[tulip thorn]

He was incompetent as hell, but damn did he have a pr team like no other

[shrewd inlet]

He’s overrated, but not as bad as the Wehrmacht

[shrewd inlet]

Oh 100%

He’s the German general bs of the USA

[warm otter]

Does a civil war cancel all guarantees?

[shrewd inlet]

🤷‍♀️

[tulip thorn]

No

Not always

[void bramble]

The next major update should be an allies remake, they have such an outdated tree it’s hilarious

[shrewd inlet]

I’ll be back,getting food

[shrewd inlet]

Allies and Soviets need buffs

[tulip thorn]

That wont be until 2027

[warm otter]

Well couping france then war on Yugoslavia

[void bramble]

Soviets are fine, they have a good tree, allies are just dead in the water with focuses lol

[tulip thorn]

The soviet tree is not outdated

[shrewd inlet]

Idk a US c would sell great

[shrewd inlet]

They get wiped

[tulip thorn]

Not really

[void bramble]

No? Soviets are insanely strong

😂

[tulip thorn]

The soviets have been doing great in every game i've played recently

[shrewd inlet]

In mp or sp

[void bramble]

Both

[shrewd inlet]

In mp Russia is dog

[cedar lance]

hello yalls these are the NEW ranger templates

[tulip thorn]

Soviets are meant to die in mp

[warm otter]

Can I pick more states to be the start of the coup?

[tulip thorn]

They exist just to stall the axis so the allies can dday

[shrewd inlet]

Yeah all they do is roach

[copper cobalt]

My god

[shrewd inlet]

Soviet coal spot is horrible btw

All their industry is in Ukraine <\3

[copper cobalt]

They've weaponised the trees

[void bramble]

A good Soviet player can make the axis cry, and can win easily if the axis are in any way bad

[tulip thorn]

This is true

But still, the soviets are pretty much designed to die in mp, atleast if the axis are good

[slim nexus]

am i the first to play kumul khanate in vanilla hoi4?

[void bramble]

What is that name

[slim nexus]

idk

[icy crescent]

This the one new formable?

[cedar lance]

🇪🇪 URA

[remote quarry]

💀 the issue is it has never been playable in vanilla

even less so

[slim nexus]

but i can form this

[slim nexus]

no, releasable

sinkiang releasable

[icy crescent]

Everybody gangsta - until the Turks start throat singing.

[slim nexus]

lmao

[karmic bolt]

Can someone help me and tell me how on naval supremacy?

[uncut carbon]

I thought mongolia was South Africa for a second

[wide nova]

soooo

does anyone know if hotfix patches like these are like eu5 ones in that older savegames can be played with no issue

even if the game tells you that the save is outdated

[wicked haven]

general wehrmacht?

[slim nexus]

it has warlord focus tree which is kinda nice for a releasable

[wide nova]

or should I start a new campaign

[tulip thorn]

America agreed to give me 40% of their navy, I can see why they didnt want this destroyer anymore 💀

[oak obsidian]

can someone tldr whats new

I haven't opened hoi4 yet

[sonic sand]

ok so

everything is different

tannu tuva is now expansionist apparently...

navy is differnet

and

theres new doctrines

and coal

and new alliance controls so yugoslavia doesn't join the chinese united front

[wicked haven]

they changed doctrines (have to grind them now through combat)
they changed naval a lot
they changed factions

coal too

[shrewd inlet]

Generals in the Wehrmacht yeah

[tiny tartan]

The new doctrines might be really fun
I hope 7/2 is back in fashion

[icy crescent]

When you don't own the DLC:
Japan has an updated historical path.
Coal exists. You need some coal when you have many factories.
Doctrines have new stats and a new system.
China looks different.
... that's kind of it from a free perspective.

[shrewd inlet]

That shit don’t float

[tulip thorn]

lol

They also only gave me 1 heavy ship

a very broken uss west Virginia

[random venture]

faction system to right?

[icy crescent]

In the free version?
I didn't see it in my game.

[cedar lance]

🇪🇪 WE risk everything we have left including our last carrier

[random venture]

russia should bomb paradox headquarters

[wicked haven]

they were all incompetent?

[copper cobalt]

Ah yes here's this floating piece of wood take it

[random venture]

erm eestlane hearts of ironi discordis type shit?

[cedar lance]

yes

[shrewd inlet]

New trees for China, Communisy China, Japan, the Philippines and the warlords. China is more fractured. Japan has a new factionalism system. Factions and Navy are reworked

[shrewd inlet]

Incompetent war criminals

[tulip thorn]

This is what they gave me, and 14 crappy subs

[wicked haven]

doesn't that make everyone incompetent considering the allies took 6 years to defeat them

[copper cobalt]

'and to go with em here's this sunken piece of wood. You're welcome '

[shrewd inlet]

Not all of th were god awful, but their highly incompetent

[wicked haven]

not really

[copper cobalt]

Well tbf you are the phillipines

[shrewd inlet]

Took them 6 years to destroy the axis as a whole

[cedar lance]

🇪🇪 URA

🇪🇪 ALL world forces

[shrewd inlet]

Took the allies about a year since they landed in France

[icy crescent]

https://tenor.com/HDc6.gif

[fleet raven]

I don't want to see these icons on the political map

[shrewd inlet]

They were also doomed to lose

[vivid moth]

i think the new update messed with the ai

[wicked haven]

the eastern front was about 80% of the war

[tulip thorn]

I have a jar of dirt

And japan doesnt

So I will win

[minor bronze]

Any map color mod have been updated? new vanilla graphics is awful...

[icy crescent]

Wrong ocean.
WRONG OCEAN.

[shrewd inlet]

Mhm, and Soviet troops were greatly assisted by allied war production

[rocky sedge]

fps map I think

[tulip thorn]

Doesnt matter

[warm otter]

will my old mods work on 1.17

[wicked haven]

do you include soviet production in allied production?

[warm otter]

and my save files

[shrewd inlet]

Not to mention the allies were strangling Japan Italy and Germany

[minor bronze]

it is updated, but it is bad too...

[wicked haven]

the idea that the entire wehrmacht was incompetent is laughable

[leaden mulch]

Tannu Tuva will gain infinite power

[wicked haven]

you can say it was too centralised

[timid kayak]

Bungus chamas

[rocky sedge]

It’s not that bad

[shrewd inlet]

In that context no

[shrewd inlet]

It’s really not

[random venture]

okay i just reinstalled the whole game and this shit is still broken

[wicked haven]

and that Hitler took way too much control and make political decisions over military ones

[shrewd inlet]

German war production and general command was terrible

[timid kayak]

Nice IT skills

[wicked haven]

but the idea that the Germans took Poland, the low states, France, Ukraine, Belarus and arrived at Moscow through incompetence is not serious

[shrewd inlet]

Their so called wonder weapons are big hunks of useless metal

[wicked haven]

what does this have to do with competence?

[warm otter]

im moving back to 1.16.9

[wicked haven]

the main failure of the Wehrmacht was that it was lead by one man with final say. Hitler was able to decide military matters for political reasons

[random venture]

i HAVE to since i cant play at all otherwise

[wicked haven]

a key example is army group south in 42

[shrewd inlet]

The poles were divided, the French were stupid, and relied on outdated doctrine despite being superior to the Germans. The Soviets grinded down the Wehrmacht, and destroyed them multiple times

Plus well, they fought a un winnable war

[slim nexus]

Poland had all the issues of France without any of the advantages

[shrewd inlet]

The Luftwaffe was destroyed by the British and later Soviet and American air power

American air power defeated German war “production”

[timid kayak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027767596331843586/1440821807241236654/image0.gif

[wicked haven]

so everyone was incompetent?

[bright arrow]

Germany thought it was slick

[tiny tartan]

That's just not true
Poland has a ton of potential for more cores, more industry, etc
You start weaker but scale way better than france

[slim nexus]

You silly goofball I meant irl

[shrewd inlet]

A good chunk of their enemies were

[slim nexus]

Yes, and they had extreme amounts of luck

[sonic sand]

czechoslovakia is the strongest country in europe pre ww2 (besides russia)

[shrewd inlet]

Since the Germans were already geared for war

[sonic sand]

and I will stand on this point

till I die

[shrewd inlet]

Not really

[wicked haven]

in hoi4?

[shrewd inlet]

Czech production punched well above their weight

[uncut carbon]

Woah cute pfp

[sonic sand]

and this is how I know you got a basic historical knowledge and nothing more

[shrewd inlet]

Tyy :3

[bright arrow]

Czechia died without a fight lolz

[shrewd inlet]

Sigh

I just said

[uncut carbon]

[wicked haven]

The Germans were incompetent but everyone else was also incompetent means that the Germans were not actually incompetent

[shrewd inlet]

Czech production punched well above its weight

[bright arrow]

Everyone in ww2 was incompetent, it was a battle royale, competence was invented in 1945

[shrewd inlet]

For the most part, untill the allied powers blew the shit out of the axis

[sonic sand]

because the french said to them. "if you dare not follow what we say we will not come and back you up AND we might come and enforce the treaty ourselves."

[shrewd inlet]

I mean besides America yeah

[misty fossil]

i love my gun barge

[sonic sand]

stupid stupid stupid.

[warm nimbus]

do yall have the immobile cohesion

[bright arrow]

America was a shining example of competence when japan attacked

[wicked haven]

in 1939, 1940, 1941, 1942, 1943, 44 or 45?

Neither the British or the Americans would agree for the majority of the war

[slim nexus]

🍣 👺 👺 🐣 🐎 ❤️ 🎋 🎋 🪁 👍 👍 🍪 😋 🍣 🍣 😢 🔨 🐟 😊 🛡️ 🛡️ 🌻

[shrewd inlet]

Late 41 onwards

[wicked haven]

Stalin and the soviets had a mental break in 41

[sonic sand]

and a shining example of competence when they just left all of eastern europe out to dry

[wicked haven]

churchill was left with no capital ships in asia after the japanese sunk pow

[sonic sand]

and then proceeded to catfight with the soviets for the next 5 ish decades

[shrewd inlet]

Japan went fast, tripped, and fell

[slim nexus]

be mobilized for war
invade non mobilized country
rely heavily on quick victory using tanks
Okay guys let's mobilize, woops Germans are already in Paris

[shrewd inlet]

Japan was a joke

[bright arrow]

No country was fully competent in ww2

[wicked haven]

don't mobilise for war despite the exact same general direction of attack as 20 years ago

[shrewd inlet]

Except the Americans but yeah

Arsenal of democracy my beloved

[wicked haven]

don't communicate properly and blend tank and infantry units so you have no concentrated armour

[shrewd inlet]

Rule the free world

[bright arrow]

Bro, it took the Americans like 1 year to figure out how a torpedo should work

[slim nexus]

There were other factors, I just replied to your previous comment, being mobilized for war is a huge advantage

[sonic sand]

yknow a normal US novelist knew they were building the atom bomb in the desert

[shrewd inlet]

Mhm, and then KABOOM. Japanese fleet gone

[uncut carbon]

I wouldve been such a good soldier

[bright arrow]

Also when the Americans bailed on the dutch-british fleet and caused a total catastrophe in the Java sea

[uncut carbon]

Yes yes major i will launch myself at the enemy

[shrewd inlet]

I’d be such a good housewife

[uncut carbon]

Me too

[sonic sand]

a NORMAL GUY saw that abunch of scientists changed their mail address to the middle of the desert

[wicked haven]

so what is your theory? that the wehrmacht were incompetent but the french were more incompetent, on average of the two that makes the wehrmacht competent again

[indigo olive]

Does anybody know how to do the new "Declare Military Emergency" achievement as the Philippines?

[sonic sand]

@shrewd inlet

[wicked haven]

the current sentiment wrt wwii has gone from German wunderwaffe would have won the war in 46 to the allies won because it was inevitable, idk why people have to take extremes

[sonic sand]

A RANDOM DUDE KNEW ABOUT THE A BOMB

[shrewd inlet]

yeo

[uncut carbon]

Im a jack of many trades, housewife,soldier,hitman,maid

I can do it all

[shrewd inlet]

truth nuke

[sonic sand]

if the axis had any good spies they would've done the soviet special

[uncut carbon]

Not at once tho because i still need breaks otherwise i get stressed

[sonic sand]

and steal the plans for the most destructive weapons in human history

[slim nexus]

I don't think the Wehrmacht was incompetent in terms of leadership, I think the French were more incompetent in that regard. I'm agreeing with you, but the point is that you're giving them way too much credit, when the underlying flaws of the wehrmacht where shown finally when they faced a country that was actually ready to fight them (Soviets after fully mobilizing)

[shrewd inlet]

if the axis stole the nuclear bomb, they couldn't use it

[sonic sand]

its a bomb

[shrewd inlet]

The European and Asian factions were already blown to bits

[shrewd inlet]

how will they make it