hoi4-general

[hollow narwhal]

to spread the joy

[viscid stirrup]

Are you trying to adhere to some societal standarts?

[hollow narwhal]

or something

[viscid stirrup]

Ok so youre trying to adhere to societal standarts

[hollow narwhal]

sure

now I rule britannia

[viscid stirrup]

You dont have to adhere to societal standarts, it is our diversity that makes us great

Turning all of humanity into a single hivemind will achieve nothing but the destruction of individual thought and thus the end of innovation

George orwell warned us about a society that limits individual thought in his book 1984

[tulip ermine]

anyone have any fun but realistic mods that you would recommend

[bright matrix]

@hollow narwhal hey

[tulip ermine]

Holy cooked

[midnight shore]

help

[tulip ermine]

how does one end up in this situation

[midnight shore]

im gonna run out of mp soon

bc poland

[tulip ermine]

thats like whole nother level of cooked

[midnight shore]

im hitting last stand

im abt to fall

[tulip ermine]

yeah probbaly for the best

[midnight shore]

i need bittersteel typa save

[patent thistle]

behold the "korean" navy

consisting of purchased ships of basically every major and even the turks (and some actually korean ships)

[dense pivot]

masterful gambit

[misty fossil]

indeed

also peace and order restored in north america

[patent thistle]

totally realistic

[bright matrix]

Togger

[uncut pollen]

I learned a crazy thing

I learned how to naval invade

[hasty owl]

How long have you had the game?

[uncut pollen]

Uhhhhmmmm

Idk

But i have like 200 hours in it

To be exact

250 hours

[ripe slate]

Noob

[coarse hull]

im at war with my romanian puppet?

[uncut pollen]

My bad that i have a life

[ripe slate]

💔 damn didnt have to do that

🙃

[south tendon]

hoi4 is more important bro

[ripe slate]

This guy gets it

[uncut pollen]

Church and other stuff is more importand

[south tendon]

will church give you dopamine?

[ripe slate]

Does church offer DLC?

[uncut pollen]

Uhhhhmmmm idk

[iron helm]

next focus to do is Get a Job

[iron helm]

we call it corruption

[uncut pollen]

If i pay enough

[coarse hull]

im not sure how this happened

[south tendon]

before that we need to do play hoi4 focus

[heavy vigil]

im researching at lightning speed rn (7K days instead of 15K)

[coarse hull]

i just got a popup saying britain betrayed me and suddenly im at war with my own puppet

[cinder turret]

Is it possible to just join a random hoi4 multiplayer game? :)

[ripe slate]

Dont think so

[cinder turret]

Oh okay, thank you

[ripe slate]

Itd be a horrible idea regardless I imagine

[cinder turret]

Idc about that. I just wanted to play with somebody in this game.

[ripe slate]

#historical-multiplayer #alt-history-multiplayer

[iron helm]

the fire rises

[ripe slate]

Road to 56

[brittle cypress]

Equestria at war

[ripe slate]

Old World Blues can still happen

[iron helm]

wait are they gonna kill prince demchungrub or however he's called naval bomber trait

pls dont tell me my goat is gonna die

[ripe slate]

He is the real leader so wouldnt expect

[hasty owl]

Who wants a realistic mod?

[patent thistle]

gotta hate when you have to think of names for ships cause your nation doesnt have any

[hasty owl]

Just name the best ship after tien

[patent thistle]

i have build carriers so

(yes ww1)

[hasty owl]

Name you frist carrier tien

[patent thistle]

does the name Tien have even something to do with korea?

[hasty owl]

Nah

[patent thistle]

i litterally had to ask chatGPT for some names-

thats what i would call "the international fleet"

2 german, 1 russian, 1 british, 1 Fr*nch, 1 American, 2 austrian light cruisers, 2 italian Light cruisers and 4 ottoman Torpedo Boats

[rocky sedge]

i hate this game

[patent thistle]

lol?

[rocky sedge]

it just breaks everytime 😭

[patent thistle]

oh trust, there is FAR worse

[rocky sedge]

i know but i mean the thailand bordergore 😭

[patent thistle]

i would personally more complain about india being pakistan

[zenith charm]

what about irak being kurdistan

or there being a sultanate of aussa

[unkempt zodiac]

how many divisions do you need to do sea lion

[rich sand]

you can form HRE as germany/france/austria?

or is that a mod

[patent thistle]

china is mine (the other china is my puppet)

[dense pivot]

what the text on the new hoodie mean, i dont speak

[violet plaza]

I ordered the plush 😄

[coarse hull]

very specific path for germany

i can explain how if you would like

[copper sluice]

how do I take iceland?

[lapis snow]

fewer troops

more ports + supply

[ornate marlin]

what is it that requires armoured support vehicles

[lapis snow]

assault/armored engis

[heavy vigil]

chat rate my encirclement

[lapis snow]

which one?

[copper sluice]

?

like this?

[ornate marlin]

ty

[lapis snow]

no.

take some of the 2m men out and build the port level up

spamming hubs is a waste

[patent thistle]

f***ers thought they were slick and could seize some of MY china

[copper sluice]

those arent hubs

[lapis snow]

true, I'm blind

[copper sluice]

2m is what?

[lapis snow]

millions

you have 5 armies in a desolate volcanic wasteland

with one tiny port

you can't fight

[heavy vigil]

dw i was just doing railway construction

i have retreated after bombing and logi striking them

and only killing 800K ukrainian soldiers

[lapis snow]

too much vicky 3

[heavy vigil]

(their total army is 3-4mil)

[heavy vigil]

i just like doing supply

[rich sand]

that would be amazing

i played like 11 germany campaigns because germany is recommended for beginners but i've never seen a focus where it lets you form hre

[lapis snow]

it's a decision. You have to tighten air safety to prevent the hindenburg blowing up and form the kaiserreich to be eligible

then conquer the territory

[coarse hull]

would you like me to dm it to you?

[rich sand]

oh

[rich sand]

sure, thanks a lot

[umbral agate]

Whats the best hungary path in mp

[patent thistle]

time for ww1 ig, i will not do shit tho- i just steal the german port in china

and later some of the russian far east

glorious korean navy ready to wipe the floor with the japanese

[misty fossil]

dont abbreviate japanese..

at least not in public……

[patent thistle]

i am playing korea i have to be realistic

[misty fossil]

a slur is a slur gang

Thats like playingr RDR2 and using the hard r

[sharp reef]

generals!

[viscid stirrup]

yo yo yo

[viscid stirrup]

why not croseph

[misty fossil]

?

[viscid stirrup]

vro the japanese colonized asia

and they suppressed the local culture

and did whole massacres

[patent thistle]

nanking is a great reminder

[viscid stirrup]

yes

japan didnt get punished at all

[patent thistle]

and unit 731

[viscid stirrup]

i went to japan and most of the people there are still japanese supremacists

[patent thistle]

ye, they should have been sentenced way harsher, japan just shows how many double standards the west had

just show how diffrent the tokyo trials and nuremberg trials were handled

big ouch for the german navy

NOONE IS AT HOME FOR JAPAN = )

[viscid stirrup]

whats even more crazy is that the monarchy WASNT ABOLISHED and the emporor KEPT RULING FOR 40 YEARS

[ruby flame]

does having the same terrain trait on your FM and gen stack?

[patent thistle]

the monarchy thing was a stratigic decision. since the US feared that it would create a mortal enemy under the japanese populace which would have made the occupation way more brutal

it was argued that hirohito wasnt the one mostly in charge of the warcrimes, that was tojo

[viscid stirrup]

oh so now the US are cowards

no wonder the US suffered less than 1 million casualties in ww2

running away from danger

[patent thistle]

honestly would you prefer having a now way more militaristic japan?

[viscid stirrup]

YES

the japanese military rn is so cooked

[patent thistle]

this japan would definetly not stand with us just saying

[celest fern]

what? so you wanted more people dead? i’m not following here

[maiden verge]

Most of japanese emperors didnt had any real power except a few cases like Meiji, and Hirohito although wasnt directly involved with a lot of issues he didnt do nothing or intervened to stop during the entire war

[viscid stirrup]

i think it is acceptable to sacrifice 1 million people to save 100 million

tho maybe im wrong

[patent thistle]

ye that was the main arguement, it was mostly the military and tojo that made the war decisions

i am pretty sure if it had gone hirohitos way they would have had for example not invaded china (yet)

[celest fern]

what? we’re talking about that the US prevented more japanese and american deaths by not invading japan and instead using nukes, which while yes is still brutal, caused way less deaths than an direct invasion

[sudden thistle]

They never inspect the Spanish Inquisition Korean soldiers

[viscid stirrup]

neither the nukes nor the invasion wouldve caused the japanese surrender

[patent thistle]

that is agreeable, it was mostly the soviet entery into the war

[viscid stirrup]

the REAL reason japan surrendered, and which is ommited in the cowardly US education system, was the soviet invasion of manchuria

[patent thistle]

but you cant say that the japanese would have never surrendered

[celest fern]

But the nukes along with the manchurian invasion caused them to surrender. It would’ve still dragged on a bit if it wasn’t for the nukes

[patent thistle]

hirohito was the main voice at the end for the surrender

[viscid stirrup]

dont edit the message

shame the colonists and imperialists

[sudden thistle]

Nuh uh

I asked him to surrender

And he said ok

[viscid stirrup]

the only reason japan was still at the war at that point was because japan thought that the allies wouldnt want to invade the home islands and would accept a conditional surrender, which would allow japan to keep some colonies

[maiden verge]

He didnt intervened when Kwantung army invaded Manchuria, he didnt intervened when militarists started to rise in japanese society and politics, he didnt intervene when the constitutional government fell in the hands of military which is not purely fault of him because since Taisho era the military was already threatening the "taisho democracy"

[viscid stirrup]

with the soviet invasion of manchuria, the soviets would sweep down into eastern china and cut the connection between japan and its colonies

[patent thistle]

also i wouldnt really count "japs" a slur. we are litterally calling the americans willingly "jankies"

[maiden verge]

And for example, It was not Hirohito who purged the Kodoha faction, but rather the rival Toseiha faction, which was just as bad as the Kodoha but more moderate in political terms, just later Emperor and the High command executed the big heads behind that

[reef jetty]

Should I launch the attack

[patent thistle]

lets be honest tho, at the point of hirohito he couldnt really do much about it anymore, Meiji basically forced his hand

[viscid stirrup]

purge all the monarchist factins

[viscid stirrup]

hirohita actively encouraged the japanese wars of agression

[patent thistle]

by the time hirohito came to power it was already too late and the military had already established itself enough

[maiden verge]

Taisho more specifically, when Meiji era ended, Japan was more constitutional

[patent thistle]

he never actively encouraged it, but he never voiced opinions

[viscid stirrup]

hirohito obviously encouraged it, he supported a war against china

[maiden verge]

He didnt support but he also didnt do nothing to stop it

As that could be a threat to his throne

The same way he didnt directly encouraged war crimes but he ignored a lot of reports about that

[patent thistle]

FEELS SHIT BEING ON THIS SIDE OF COLONISATION DOESNT IT?

[rich sand]

england next

[viscid stirrup]

if a person ignores a bully, then that person is encouraging the bully

i strongly condemn the monarchists

[patent thistle]

couldnt care less about england, never had to deal with them

[viscid stirrup]

i hate the monarchists

i hate the monarchy

down with the czar

[patent thistle]

korea rightnow litterally being a monarchy:

[viscid stirrup]

KOREA IS A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC

[patent thistle]

i take that as an insult btw

[viscid stirrup]

checks and balances

[near rampart]

Austria Afrika Korps 1915

[viscid stirrup]

OH MY GOSH ITS LONG YUN

[viscid stirrup]

IM SUCH A FAN LONG YUN

[viscid stirrup]

i mean irl

not a video game

[near rampart]

dang fr.. but rn im using Kurt Schuschnigg identity

[patent thistle]

thailand:

[near rampart]

Vass??? We break through the maginot??

[viscid stirrup]

flip thailand

[patent thistle]

happends when the french dont guard it

[viscid stirrup]

monarchists pmo

i hate monarchism so much

[patent thistle]

nordics:

[near rampart]

they do guard it like over 50 division

we just able to encirlce one weakspots and stackkill

[viscid stirrup]

flip nordics

[patent thistle]

time to wait and let russia collapse into civilwar

[viscid stirrup]

arent they democratic socialists

[patent thistle]

so i can steal shit

[patent thistle]

sweden, norway and denmark all have still an active monarchy

[candid pecan]

are reichskomissariats good

[viscid stirrup]

i hate the monarchy

why are the monarchists still in power

[sudden thistle]

No

Unless larp

[viscid stirrup]

why havent they been purged to switserland

[maiden verge]

Encouraging is different from being negligent.

[viscid stirrup]

there were at least 3 revolutions just to overthrow the monarchy in FRANCE ALONE

[maiden verge]

If I can ask, what is the mod you are using?

[viscid stirrup]

kaserredux

[patent thistle]

great war redux*

[maiden verge]

Thanks!

[viscid stirrup]

same thing

wait

actually no

[patent thistle]

nope

one is in the great war the other is after a german victory in the great war

time to steal the japanese fleet

[viscid stirrup]

overthrow the monarchy

giloutine them

turn them into nobis

[patent thistle]

might elsewell split of taiwan off china again

[viscid stirrup]

nobi is the korean word for slave btw. the people have served the monarch for far too long, now its time for the monarch to serve the people

[viscid stirrup]

purge the monarchyyyy pleaseseeee

[patent thistle]

i always do this, its basically free considering i have like 1000 political power

[patent thistle]

my man i litterally cant-

[viscid stirrup]

why not

hire the communist revolutionary

[maiden verge]

If im not bothering you, can you show the full map of Korean sphere?

[maiden verge]

Respectable size

[near rampart]

btw i get achievement "before leaves fall"

[maiden verge]

Good job!

[patent thistle]

ignore the fact i am in the entente, i just am in it just so i could aviod the british garantie on japan

[maiden verge]

Its okay

[viscid stirrup]

youve gotta liberate russia from czar nick 2

[patent thistle]

they are going to do that themselvs

i am not helping them in the war against germany

at all

[maiden verge]

I need to play some chinese dynasty, Since I started playing Hoi4 i need to get the hang of it again

[patent thistle]

if you want suffering do luxembourg

[viscid stirrup]

luxembourg tank world conquest is fun

[patent thistle]

rip

not my problem tho

skill issue for the entente navy

[viscid stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-1182720488497099882

[celest fern]

They already stated in the Potsdam declaration that they would only accept unconditional surrender and even before that, the US already rejected conditional surrenders from Japan which prolly gave the japanese a hint that they would only accept unconditional surrender

[viscid stirrup]

ever notice how the allies never invaded japan

[celest fern]

Because they knew it was unecessary

[viscid stirrup]

unecessary because of the communists

[patent thistle]

its monarchists against monarchists

fine i come save the french ass ig.

after i stole the japs navy

[celest fern]

ok?

[viscid stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/mlk-discord-discordians-roles-color-roles-gif-11722443722294906054

[patent thistle]

eh, its acceptable

expected more from japan tho

[viscid stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-newgens-gif-8678210315718230321

[patent thistle]

then again its the ww1 fleet which is nowhere near the ww2 fleets strenght

"the hero of tsusuma" now being in korean hands = )

thats now a far more respectable korean fleet

[maiden verge]

How good is Korea content in great war redux?

[ruby flame]

wish there was another option like this except for "states with our claim"

[viscid stirrup]

very good

play the communists

[patent thistle]

fairly small but eh there is worse trees in basegame

[viscid stirrup]

me after realizing that marx invented the word "capitalist" too

[sudden thistle]

Ur saying this while being the youngest in the conversation

[patent thistle]

but you do have an early war with japan to deal with tho

[viscid stirrup]

am i really?

im literally 13

[maiden verge]

I almost always play communists, i need to try other paths

[sudden thistle]

Most likely

[viscid stirrup]

yes just put 4 divisions on busan and the rest on the railway

[patent thistle]

i am curious, what nationality are you?

[viscid stirrup]

proof?

[patent thistle]

sometimes i even push through the railway

[viscid stirrup]

you mean my birthplace?

[sudden thistle]

I don’t have the age of everyone here bro

[patent thistle]

yes

[viscid stirrup]

no proof

[sudden thistle]

What kind of question is that

[viscid stirrup]

i was born at a very young age in ukraine

[patent thistle]

im 19 here

[patent thistle]

how old are you?

[maiden verge]

I think its really fair focus tree, a lot of korea mods made by koreans are more complete obviously but most of them are outdated or were abandoned

[patent thistle]

no shit you tend to make your home nation stronger if you make a mod

[viscid stirrup]

13

[maiden verge]

I think the korean independence movement is very rich in content

From far-left to far-right

[patent thistle]

the political tree isnt that big but it really doesnt have to be

[viscid stirrup]

join the soviet union

https://tenor.com/view/lenin-vladimir-lenin-russian-empire-revolutionary-russia-gif-14019260987648644695

[maiden verge]

Most of them dont make korea stronger but have more content

[viscid stirrup]

now paradox is obviously about to add korea content

[patent thistle]

my man first of i cant anymore secondly i am no communism main and thirdly i dont want to wait till like f***ing 1917 to do anything

[viscid stirrup]

uh huh

sure

you can take whatever path you want

https://tenor.com/view/rock-moai-dwayne-johnson-d3s-gif-17850471898251413922

[patent thistle]

... movement ai, you could have NOT tought of a better way to get to france but LITTERALLY go through the baltic sea and RUSSIA?

[maiden verge]

They will find koryoin in the way and bring them home later

[eternal aspen]

on GBP right side, what's the CW i should aim for?

i've never done this doctrine b4, and have no XP to change it

[eternal aspen]

dw, in KX you can send your units though all of russia, just to go 1 tile to the right in central asia

[celest fern]

https://tenor.com/view/thej-gif-23995436

[patent thistle]

also bulgaria got everything they wanted?

seriously?

[viscid stirrup]

x+1=1+x im a brilliant genius

https://tenor.com/view/brilliant-move-chess-gif-gif-12778297347705243197

[maiden verge]

You are motivating me to play hoi4 before going to sleep

[eternal aspen]

yea that's always possible

[celest fern]

https://tenor.com/view/shotgun-mustard-gas-gif-5368742967077568799

amazing

[reef jetty]

How down bad is bros graphics

[viscid stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-plankton-meme-gif-15640350090336605258

[celest fern]

why're they in a faction with Greece?

[patent thistle]

sorry that i rather have my laptop not turn into an atomic bomb

[patent thistle]

if bulgaria actually gets its shit, the faction never desolves

[celest fern]

why no Serbia there?

[patent thistle]

they get forced into the entente

due to the russian garantie

[brittle sigil]

does anybody know where to get the historical german portrait DLC my cousin got HOI4 but its not showing in the DLC section of the launcher

[celest fern]

are you playing on historical or nah cuz for me the bulgarians always starts BW2

[patent thistle]

average ottomans moment

[patent thistle]

non historical

they got it in the peacedeal

[reef jetty]

Js get a new one ( not saying u have to ) oh n u can use a cooler beneath ur laptop i mean i dont have a gaming laptop but mines still run at full graphics i Js use a cooler

[celest fern]

oh ok, that's why

[patent thistle]

my guy its always easy to say that when you dont have monetary issues currently because some bastard has driven in into your car and his insurance is being assholes and setting the value way lower then its actually

[maiden verge]

Sorry for that

[patent thistle]

its fine. i will still most likely get the value out of it and some extra after a court hearing. i am definetly not accepting a 5k settlement for a car which was worth atleast 10-15k and still was at that point in time

[slim nexus]

what is this military budget thing?

[heavy vigil]

@hidden spruce switzerland mentioned!!!

or its denmark idk

[slim nexus]

denmark

[patent thistle]

also the car btw is completly wrecked meaning they cant argue that it was just the repair costs

[heavy vigil]

i might be blind

[heavy vigil]

thats from the dlc focus tree

[slim nexus]

i dont have it

[heavy vigil]

yeah idk why it shows up

probably a bug

you should report it on the forums if you want it fixed

[slim nexus]

ok

[maiden verge]

I hope you will

[sudden thistle]

Are you European?

Because they have laws against that

Search like “uncensored Germany” or something along the lines of that

[sudden thistle]

I mean EU

[uncut carbon]

not all of EU has that

only germany and maybe austria

but in NL we dont have that

[devout trench]

Steam workshop

[sudden thistle]

I thought they did?

Oh

[devout trench]

No

Germany I think is the only one who restricts use of it

[uncut carbon]

book is banned but his face is not

here atleast

in a lot of places the book isnt banned either

would be weird to not depict him but also allow his book with all his ideas lol

[limber arrow]

I just bought the expansion pass 2 for 48 euro

I feel like an complete addict now

[devout trench]

Pre ordering a DLC

What have we came too

[limber arrow]

Idk

[devout trench]

Actually

Has it came out yet?

[limber arrow]

Its coming 20 nov

[heavy vigil]

https://discord.gg/4hSjEaN6A?event=1438585414494457896

[limber arrow]

I bought it cuz it may be a profit for me

[devout trench]

Got the discussion and release confused

[limber arrow]

Buying the expansion pass instead of waiting for all the dlcs and cosmetic packs to come out and then buy all of them might be cheaper

[devout trench]

Why are we buying cosmetic packs

[limber arrow]

Cuz why not?

[heavy vigil]

cosmetic packs are awesome id spend all my money on silly models personally

[limber arrow]

I love cosmetic packs

[heavy vigil]

i even got a chinese mod to give all models to all countries if you want

[tepid crown]

USA is getting nerfed again with the new dlc

[heavy vigil]

i dont support the axis glazing but nerfing places is good

[limber arrow]

But this is not gonna be some new random dlc for me

[heavy vigil]

everyone must have no stats

[limber arrow]

Because i play east Asia all the time

And i meant it

[tepid crown]

-1 level for all generals and admirals is crazy though

[heavy vigil]

yeah :/ doesnt say skill level tho

[tepid crown]

Pretty sure it effects that as well to a point

[patent thistle]

okay maybe i should not engage the modern german kaiserliche marine with some pre dreadnoughts

lost quite a few heavy cruisers

i admit to my mistake

[reef jetty]

Oh damn i didnt know that hope ur issue gets fixed !

[patent thistle]

maybe i should stop buying american guns and save myself the political power-

[fair horizon]

destroyers 🤮

[fair horizon]

once again destroyers are to blame

[zinc light]

Poland looking very large and in charge (germany, austria and bohemia are my puppets)

[solid dirge]

For once germany is the b of polans

Ru playing modded or a historical also

[zinc light]

Indeed

now to swallo yugo and then turn eastwards

[copper sluice]

this is a 1 time thing, right?

or will it change later on depending on how the opinions change

[frozen sparrow]

one time thing just improve your relations to get the max effect b/f you do the focus

[heavy vigil]

mauser rile yoo

[zinc light]

oh boi this is gonna be pain

[devout trench]

Polish monarchist paths feel like the only viable paths of Poland

[zinc light]

WHO ARE YOU

[zinc light]

yeah, agree on that

[candid pecan]

NO

WHY

[devout trench]

“All paths lead to democracy” in Poland

[zinc light]

damn I just noticed

it's januray 1941

this was a FAST game

ah yes, Mitteleuropa... in Ethiopia and Jaan

[devout trench]

It’s the DLCs

Mittelafrika and Mittelasia

[zinc light]

but it's not even in the Mitte!

[simple citrus]

uhhhh

[zinc light]

Alliesn't

[devout trench]

It’s their eastern Sub-DLCs

[simple citrus]

i forgot to turn off allowdiplo

uh

[zinc light]

bruh

[simple citrus]

what's the command for no decisions check

[fair horizon]

ngl i feel like bigger ships should be the only ones that need cruiser escorts

[heavy vigil]

i will be ending the forever war between ai

that has been going on for 50 ish years

when the year hits 2000 in my save

[fair horizon]

lore accurate war

[heavy vigil]

its between allies and GEACPS

not rlly lore accurate

[fair horizon]

who the heck is that

[heavy vigil]

greater east asian co-prosperity sphere

[fair horizon]

ah

[heavy vigil]

consisting of japan, iceland and palau

[fair horizon]

go palau!

[simple citrus]

uh

[buoyant rivet]

how is this as a space marine template?

foccussed on soft attack > hard

I plan to swap arty for a land cruiser when I finish researching everything I need

[heavy vigil]

ehhhhhhhhhh

[dawn mango]

6 days till dlc

[dusky burrow]

yes

[versed rapids]

racist

[eternal aspen]

@dawn mango
> 6 days till dlc

bro make up yo mind pls <3

[simple citrus]

uh

[eternal aspen]

nvm you js updated it

[dawn mango]

i do that everyday

[simple citrus]

kingdom of norway declares war on norwegian norway

[sudden thistle]

A bit expensive for space marines

[buoyant rivet]

Any advice

[eternal aspen]

what terrain are you fighting in?

[buoyant rivet]

So cut down on the support companies and definietly no land cruisers?

[eternal aspen]

because you should be going for the CW of the land you're fighting in the most

[heavy vigil]

dont use SPAA for space marines>

[buoyant rivet]

My biggest limiter is manpower

[heavy vigil]

infantry benefits greatly from piercing and breakthrough

[eternal aspen]

what's the new meta for SM's? i remember SPAA always being good

[buoyant rivet]

OH really, I thought that was normal for space marines

[sudden thistle]

Supp arty, and hostpital are find to keep

[heavy vigil]

"normal" if you hate winning

[heavy vigil]

for armor its the best

its just thats not the only value you want out of a tank batallion

[sudden thistle]

If u remove the SPAA just add supp AA then

[buoyant rivet]

Ethiopia, I went empire of solomon, I want to conquer all of africa as I started off with africa de-colonised

[simple citrus]

despite all that iberia is still absolutely okay

[eternal aspen]

so desert and mountains

[sudden thistle]

Are u fighting other African countries?

[buoyant rivet]

I swear it used to be the meta for it, just as Astram did

[buoyant rivet]

yes

[buoyant rivet]

yep

[sudden thistle]

Then why get SM then

[uncut carbon]

ngl 'japs' is crazy man ngl thats just racist

how hasnt casey deleted that

[sudden thistle]

AI that are released are just bad

[buoyant rivet]

because it is fun lmao

[sudden thistle]

Fair

[uncut carbon]

it's ok my nihon jin amigo i will not let them defile your good name like this anymore

[buoyant rivet]

if I wanted to steam roll the AI I would obviously not be doing this, I would just go mass mobi for manpower and rush weapons 3

buts it 1945 already and Im going for an africa conquest

[heavy vigil]

its meta for getting armor value

but what infantry really lacks when attacking is breakthrough

SPAA gives like none of it

[heavy vigil]

i didnt read it

[buoyant rivet]

true, I have optimised my designs for the +1 entrenchment and as much breakthrough as I can

only thing I could change is swapping easy maitenance for autoloaders

[uncut carbon]

get him then cuz thats crazy offensive

[heavy vigil]

'jap' is a hateful/offensive term, do not use it and refrain from using any such slurs in the future

[dusky burrow]

norwegian norway 😡

[tulip thorn]

We love norwegian norway

[dusk nova]

No way

[eternal aspen]

mfw the nothing ever happens people see something happen

[hasty owl]

No it's not

[grizzled zenith]

How does the capitulation progress work, does it take non cores into account? What if you have no cores then, such as switching to a Reichskommissariat?

[hasty owl]

Only cores count. I don't know about the other thing.

[grizzled zenith]

Okay

[heavy vigil]

its either all owned cores or all owned states

[grizzled zenith]

Does the 2nd one apply when you have no cores?

[heavy vigil]

yes

or rather

when you own none of your core states

[grizzled zenith]

Ok

[unkempt zodiac]

mass assault literally gives 5% recruitable population with no debuff how did i not know this 😭

[hasty owl]

Are you a femboy?

[ripe slate]

Mobile warfare has one of those too 🤷‍♂️

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah

[unkempt zodiac]

no..

[grizzled zenith]

But mobile warfare has 2 useless squares at the end with 1 giving 3% and one 2% and mobile warfare has just one for 5

[ripe slate]

Bad time to discover since they overhaul doctrines in next weeks update lol

[unkempt zodiac]

damn

[grizzled zenith]

So it's better if you just go for guerilla warfare and recruitable pop

[grizzled zenith]

True

[grizzled zenith]

Damn the dlc is next week

[dim hazel]

why cant they add antartica to the game?

[heavy vigil]

it is in the game

just not all of it

[dim hazel]

where?

[heavy vigil]

google kerguelen islands

[dim hazel]

🤯

[heavy vigil]

but its also not in the game because mainland antarctica was starting to be explored and wasnt officially part of any nations

so itd be weird

and holds no real value

[honest glacier]

how is my puppet at war with me

[fresh moss]

it was plyaka i remember now

what

wrong chat

sorry hoi4 general guys

[ripe slate]

No relevance

Theres map mods that add it

[fresh moss]

tno added antarctica and that mod goes to show just how irrelevant it would be

has 0 impact on the game

whatsoever

[dim hazel]

nah antartica was involved in ww2 cuz a british and a german guy had a standoff there

[fresh moss]

🥹

[heavy vigil]

ill get the devs on it if i ever get the opportunity dw

tho it would probably be an event not a map change

[dim hazel]

can paradox make a hoi4 movie

[unkempt zodiac]

does justifying war goal in less time generate less world tension

[stoic crag]

hey

[runic wraith]

I am a new player. is this good? did i make any mistakes?

[stoic crag]

is multiplayer alive? ive been playing rise of nations on rblx for a few days and im addicted,wanted to try hoi4

[hasty owl]

How may planes you have?

[hasty owl]

Probably don't put the guys in bad supply

[candid pecan]

i thought i was producing cas when it was actually naval bombers 😭

[hasty owl]

Now I know I am not the dumbest person alive

[stoic crag]

answeransweranswer

[candid pecan]

hey hey hey

[candid pecan]

looks like you forgot you could use field marshals

to do frontlines

[runic wraith]

what

[candid pecan]

u used generals individually

to do frontlines

when u can just use a field marshal

[runic wraith]

oh ok

they wont attack cuz of phony war, right?

[eternal aspen]

Correct

Sorta

[stoic crag]

people is it worth buying hoi4

[eternal aspen]

Historically France could have won right there since Germany never had any real divisions on the front, but ingame the French won't attack first, the second you attack or show weakness its gonna lose you the war

[heavy vigil]

depends on how much time you have

[candid pecan]

yeah but just keep one or two armies

[heavy vigil]

its not easy or fast to get into

[runic wraith]

imma keep one

[heavy vigil]

but good replayability imo

[candid pecan]

hoi4 is hard to learn im still bad at it

but i beat the allies for the first time

today

[stoic crag]

ive gotten addicted to a roblox copy,rise of nations,so im thinking about buying

[eternal aspen]

You should buy it, piracy isnt worth it since you take so much longer to update, buying saves that time, issue is its expensive so wait until PDX publisher sale

[eternal aspen]

RON is more like hoi3 and vic2

Hoi4 is very different

[stoic crag]

isnt hoi4 simpler than hoi3?

[heavy vigil]

its a lot more complex

than RoN

[runic wraith]

first time invaiding polnad as germany

[eternal aspen]

Its easier to learn, but its not that bad

[stoic crag]

well RoN was a bit complex

but i got it after 3 days

[heavy vigil]

its not comparable

[stoic crag]

conquered europe today

oh okay

[eternal aspen]

Hoi4 is more like a month

[stoic crag]

damn

[stoic crag]

with Serbia

[heavy vigil]

a month to know how to produce stuff and move units aroudn the map for most people somehow

not rlly but like

not particularly skilled level

[stoic crag]

so i have to dedicate my life to hoi4

[eternal aspen]

Basically

I should 0lay RON, i was p good at it when they added nukes and I shouldn't be that bad

[heavy vigil]

no but it takes a lot of time

theres some tutorial videos pinned in #ask-for-help-here if you want to learn before getting the game

to kind of see the complexity i guess

[stoic crag]

wait

why cant i swear

wth

[eternal aspen]

Server rules

[heavy vigil]

for a more casual paradox map game experience i would highly recommend crusader kings 3

its much easier to get into

[stoic crag]

no 10 year old is gna play hoi4

[stoic crag]

danke

[stoic crag]

is it world war based

[heavy vigil]

some have

[eternal aspen]

Still server rules

[heavy vigil]

yes

[eternal aspen]

I taught my 11yo brother to play hoi4

[stoic crag]

oh dear

[heavy vigil]

their next update is an expansion into china

ck3 isnt americas/asia yet but will be soon (not for americas)

[stoic crag]

i have always loved age of civilizations II i conquered the whole world atleast 20 times

been playing since i was 12

11 even

[heavy vigil]

its more character driven

its really fun but not for me because youre more playing a character than a nation

[stoic crag]

but its very simple

all you do is manage taxes and research

and make army

going to war is by the push of a button

[candid pecan]

oh yeah

ive played aoc2

and aoc3

[stoic crag]

hows aoc3?

[candid pecan]

oh

its pretty good

but its more complex than aoc2

after u finish a doctrine can u do another

once again italy did nothing in the war and got more land than me

[stoic crag]

im js gonna buy hoi4

but im broke

idkk

[heavy vigil]

do some research before buying it then

[stoic crag]

thats why i came here

[heavy vigil]

watch some vids or something

[stoic crag]

alr

[toxic sapphire]

IS THIS GOOD FOR FIRST EARLY BARBAROSSA

[toxic sapphire]

@heavy vigil

IN A MONTH

i took over

estonia

leningrad

ukraaine

belarus

and inflicted 500k losses (soon 1.5m from encirclements

[heavy vigil]

a month?

no but jk for a normal build thats pretty decent

[dusky burrow]

Lmao

[toxic sapphire]

cmon now

ion even have 100 hrs

[heavy vigil]

im kidding sorry 😭

[toxic sapphire]

allg

[heavy vigil]

its also only possible with armored car build

[toxic sapphire]

ik

[heavy vigil]

cuz fastt

youre doing well

[toxic sapphire]

and thank god i seperated ukraine border

romania aint stealing nun

[toxic sapphire]

i encircled like 40 or 50 units at once

i had a 2nd one

but ss was late

month of prog

[dim hazel]

why is the french ai now attacking the maginot lime when i play germany they didint do that before the updates 😭

[azure palm]

I just had the thought "wouldnt it be super cool if you could demand nations give you terretory in exchange for loans and if they dont give you the civies back they have to pay you more and if they refuse you get a war goal on them". Like either pay or be destroyed. But now that I think about it it sounds a lot like Blackmail

I think I need to go to sleep...

[toxic sapphire]

too broken for stuff like early mp

[azure palm]

a sign that I need to go to sleep

[fickle thicket]

ew armored cars

[fickle thicket]

christ

[zinc light]

Mitteleuropa has made its way back to Europa, but its all poland

[toxic sapphire]

FIRST TIME EVER

[still loom]

why the default setting is max 75?

this is better. It was capped at 70 before

[hot patrol]

this alright gang?

[still loom]

Okay so I am back after 10 months. I can't resist the urge to play

And guess what? I wanna torture myself with Estonia

[hot patrol]

nice

[hot patrol]

but is this alright

maybe this

[still loom]

yeah was about to say increase org

[hot patrol]

you'd know right?

[still loom]

Which year is it

[hot patrol]

fair

[still loom]

I would say get mecha if you can afford

[hot patrol]

oh yeah

1942

i should research mech

[still loom]

other than that, it's good

Of course, if your economy can keep up with the cost

[hot patrol]

thanks

121 factories should be fine

besides i'll probally have 6-12

[still loom]

great

Oh man I need to remember many things again

[hot patrol]

1942 ussr because i'm a pain in the germans ass and they have 100% consumer goods

[hot patrol]

what do you even intend to do

[still loom]

Exactly what I always do: World Conquest with minor nations

I just love it

and late game

Good thing we have formable nation here

[heavy vigil]

huh

[lucid oar]

this whole japan thing is easy

[toxic sapphire]

129 in menu 💔

[hot patrol]

bro chill

[hot patrol]

advice for the template

[heavy vigil]

just win?

get good general

level 10 attack

[opaque atlas]

on historical is insane

[hot patrol]

mate

i'll replace with mech

but you get the idea

[hidden spruce]

Stfu

Stupid country

Also wasn’t even Switzerland

[sly elm]

great mod

[hidden spruce]

Only ping at Yunnan mentioned @heavy vigil

[sly elm]

(yes i have 5 puppets as turkiye called turkiye, whatcha gonna do about it)

[jovial ore]

anyone know why me and my gf are getting "different version" errors when the version numbers are the same? only difference is i have dlc and she doesnt, all mods are disabled

[heavy vigil]

ENCIRCLEMENT

[hot patrol]

how do i get rid of this

[onyx jolt]

check the mods carefully because the checksum only changes if someone has a different mod enabled

[hot patrol]

is that finland in japan

[heavy vigil]

MY GOAT

[jovial ore]

i have disabled all mods even in steam

[onyx jolt]

what about your gf

[jovial ore]

she shouldnt have any but ill check 1 second

[onyx jolt]

you hit the jackpot with the girl bro

[heavy vigil]

yeah

[jovial ore]

yeah her switching from "initial playset" to "no mods" fixed it but i dont know why because she didnt have any mods in that playset

[onyx jolt]

no idea but atleast you fixed it

👍

[jovial ore]

yeah

[jovial ore]

ik this woman is phenomenal 🙏

[pastel urchin]

playing non hist germany is so ez

its so fun

[deep solstice]

Siam standing there with no more ports:

biggest encirclement oat 😭

the ENTIRE nation is now landlocked with no ports, and will slowly starve because I took the capital of bangkok

I feel evil

[pastel urchin]

guys

i have a question

do you guys do prussian legacy or panzer thingy as germany?

[hot patrol]

depends wether you'll do tanks or not

prussian legacy is better for infantry based

new tank doctrine is for tanks

self explanitory

prussian legacy specifically adds to artillery and whatnot*

[pastel urchin]

idk why but with panzer im kinda ass but with prussian legacy im defeating ussr

[pastel urchin]

idk why but i do blitzkrieg and prussian legacy so i get boosts for both

[heavy vigil]

THEY DID IT

[copper sluice]

will the industry research also give me 20% on these focus things?

[heavy vigil]

IT ONLY TOOK THEM 50 YEARS

[hot patrol]

i think this is the most pathetic shit i've ever seen

[hot patrol]

they're mutually exclusive (you can only pick 1)

[pastel urchin]

thats new

[tawny galleon]

a few requirements

[pastel urchin]

cuz i can do the blitzkrieg doctrine and prussian legacy so idk whats wrong

[hot patrol]

can i see your tech tree

[pastel urchin]

i just started a new game

[hot patrol]

screenshot of the techtree though

[pastel urchin]

okay

[graceful flame]

yo guys can i send yt link here?

[heavy vigil]

world peace

[graceful flame]

https://youtu.be/XfqOB4hvxlY?si=JW_W0602VHd2sEJg

[hot patrol]

you can't do both

[deep solstice]

capitulated in mid 1942

friendly reminder

it can always be worse

🥀

[sly elm]

Its a bug, the number in the () is region based, doesnt matter. Fix is swap version and go back to that version

[pastel urchin]

bro but i meant like😭

[deep solstice]

we took down japan

but yk

🥀

[hot patrol]

that <!> thing means mutually exclusive

[pastel urchin]

i know

[random epoch]

not the biggest fan of waiting for achievements like these but hey, got it done finally

[dusky burrow]

they have a capital hub

[pastel urchin]

i meant like i do prussian legacy and in the doctrine i do blitzkrieg

[deep solstice]

Oh i guess your right

[dusky burrow]

don't do blitzkrieg in doctrines

do gbp

[pastel urchin]

it works for me tho

idk why

but sure i do gbp

[dusky burrow]

i mean are you using fast divisions like motorized

[hot patrol]

they should make it locked behind tsarist path

lol

[hot patrol]

i mean its kinda counter-intuative

[random epoch]

It literally says as Tsarist Russia...

[pastel urchin]

nah

or like yeah

but not much

[deep solstice]

FINALLY

Damn 😭

[hot patrol]

oh mb

https://tenor.com/view/bro-fr-babby-baby-babby-oriental-oriental-shorthair-gif-25742308

[sly elm]

trust me i have no clue what happened (colonial mod where nations only get their capital at the start)

[random epoch]

goober.

[deep solstice]

how the grinch stole japan

and the marines clean up north

[dusky burrow]

Yeah pretty much

[deep solstice]

thats FREEDOM right there

[random epoch]

WW3 is very soon

[deep solstice]

what is going on in siam bro 😭

[hot patrol]

handicapped allies

[deep solstice]

oh that pocket is a HUGE encirclement

lol thanks

[hot patrol]

cracked commintern (1943)

[deep solstice]

😄

[deep solstice]

you'd be surprised

ur free france right?

[hot patrol]

i'm really not

no, i'm spain

[deep solstice]

ohhh!

yeah

[hot patrol]

communist

spain

[deep solstice]

see this is what I mean your lucky

your soviet union?

actually survived

my IRON MAN RUN soviet union?

capitulates in 1942

[hot patrol]

i'm in ironman veteran btw

[deep solstice]

see now THAT is bias 😭

[deep solstice]

this is frying me

Im on regular

I guess because im playing the US

[hot patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/my-apologies-cheese-kitty-cat-sorry-my-bad-gif-1026852287997442026

[deep solstice]

I must've forgot something

[hot patrol]

might find a mod for like luxembourg or smth

or i might plan my own mod

battleplan encirclement

[deep solstice]

I left them to fight for themselves and they did NOT dissapoint

[weary edge]

How you not surrender Germans is so near Le Havre

[deep solstice]

absolutely COOKING japan

[hot patrol]

what

[heavy vigil]

@dusky burrow look at this interesting ahist ai world

[deep solstice]

little brother

NOOO

NO

nO

nO

NO

NOOOOO

DAMN YOU

FNO!O!!O!O!O!

[weary edge]

Like won't France surrender after Paris,how u not yet surrender

[random epoch]

Encirclements are very fun

[weary edge]

What country r u

[deep solstice]

WHAT ARE YOU DOING CHINA

IM THE ALLIES

I NEED TO FINISH OFF JAPAN

IM IN CHINA RN

[deep solstice]

GERMANY HAS HALF THE WORLD

IN ITS GRASP

AND YOU DECLARE

ON CHINA?

[heavy vigil]

then invade instead of being in china?

[deep solstice]

WHAT ARE YOU DOING

[hot patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/omerrv-snip-snippingtool-life-hack-supertool-gif-19420393

[deep solstice]

thats not the ISSUE 😭

[heavy vigil]

theyre just unifying its fine

[deep solstice]

this is my issue here

germany is GIANT

[deep solstice]

and now we have the ENTIRE CHINESE UNITED FRONT against us

[heavy vigil]

you didnt d day

or kill german air

so they do that

[deep solstice]

dude it was 1942 😭 I was not ready 😭

[heavy vigil]

1942 is late

[deep solstice]

I mean yeah

but still

[hasty owl]

German letters

[deep solstice]

I had all of my 100 divisions in the middle of japan

they were already about to capitulate china

so I jumped in that

then germany annihilated the soviet union

then the chinese soviet republic declared war on china

we as the allies

have more enemies than allies 😭

[weary edge]

My son so dumb,IQ 21,he try to make friend but they call him Tien's number 1 fans

[deep solstice]

wait.

[hasty owl]

That's so mean

[deep solstice]

I dont think the allies are gonna join the chinese war (please.)

[weary edge]

Then don't be so idiotic,bitte

[deep solstice]

a useful ally

nontheless

[deep solstice]

actually wait

this might be good

if the allies destroy china and take all the land

we will have all of germany surrounded via land

and it MIGHT help

[hasty owl]

But I'm not stupid

[weary edge]

Calling Simplefied Chinese as German,how r u not stupid

[hasty owl]

They both look the same

[deep solstice]

uh

not sure about that

[lucid oar]

Why does it feel like whenever something stupid happens, Italy is responsible

[deep solstice]

wait why did you say this 😭

[weary edge]

吓你冇事呀嘛

[deep solstice]

cause italy is hot buns unless they make it to 1948

lmfao

[weary edge]

Nein,Bulgaria ist

[lucid oar]

bulgaria stays out of the war

[hasty owl]

English please. I can't read German.

[deep solstice]

this sad marine divisions

[lucid oar]

italy volunteers to do something then gives up halfway and doesn't tell anyone

[weary edge]

Nein,ich kein speake English

[hot patrol]

the hell

[dusky burrow]

you're spain right?

[hot patrol]

please just use screenshots

[hot patrol]

yes

[hasty owl]

You miss spelled every word

[dusky burrow]

oof france has issues

[weary edge]

I don't have my Discord on laptop

[deep solstice]

did japan run out of divisions or smth

[weary edge]

It's my mom's laptop

[random epoch]

lol I forgot I was making this many trucks

[deep solstice]

what happened to them lol

[weary edge]

Probably

[hot patrol]

fair enough

[deep solstice]

it was probably in siam

[weary edge]

Waste too much at China

[deep solstice]

because we had encircled ALL of siam, no divisions got out

and there was about ~50 divisions that died

[hot patrol]

am i doing something wrong?

[weary edge]

👍

[hot patrol]

i can do this 😏

[deep solstice]

jesus dawg 😭

yk we are the ALLIES right, the friends?

not yk

whatever THAT is

[weary edge]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-jesus-christ-stu-berks-them-oh-god-oh-no-gif-21089729

[deep solstice]

this might be my worst run ever btw

and its my only true iron man run

like this is actually killing me

[weary edge]

One of my ironman run got beaten by Tacobells

[deep solstice]

soviets go down in 1942, iran in axis, UK keeps failing invasions, our ONLY victory has been africa

and last but CERTAINLY NOT LEAST

chinese soviet republic declares war on china

AND JOINS THE ALLIES

[weary edge]

Which country are you

[deep solstice]

the US

[weary edge]

Leave allies and war UK

[hasty owl]

Don't you lead the allies?

[deep solstice]

US

UK leads

[deep solstice]

Honestly, I just might

i think he deserves it atp