hoi4-general

[leaden mulch]

Not very nice

[tiny viper]

I mean are there even fun ones?

[leaden mulch]

Egypt

[hasty owl]

Didn't mean it to be rude

[heavy vigil]

guam is very fun

[tiny viper]

Got job got an gf I can't complain brother

[plain tusk]

Hey is it normal for Japan to declare war before China forms its faction?

[slim nexus]

❌

Ain't happening ever

[hasty owl]

Maybe you do go outside

[plain tusk]

I just want to know if my game is screwed

[slim nexus]

Yet you clearly don't "got" a passing grade in English

[tiny viper]

I mean I am out of school since nearly 5 years now

[hasty owl]

I got a 77%

[heavy vigil]

i mean theres some "powerful" ones

[tiny viper]

And in my job I rarely speak english

[heavy vigil]

jan mayen, ukraine, nigeria, egypt

[tiny viper]

So I am getting kinda rusty in it

[wraith mauve]

Tuff or nah

[slim nexus]

ESL

[slim nexus]

I got a 100 like a good boy 🥺

[hasty owl]

I have 99 in spanish

[slim nexus]

Kumnin esta brah

[heavy vigil]

forming east africa as an east african nation or idk uniting kurdistan as themselves

[plain tusk]

Being in a country that doesn’t have english as its main language is gain cause the stardard is incredibly low

Easy peasy to get a 100% grade

[hasty owl]

I don't speak Chinese

[leaden mulch]

Uniting Germany as volga germany

[heavy vigil]

oh yeah thats a thing you can do

[slim nexus]

It's supposed to be a bastardisation of the "mexican" phrase of "Como esta?"

[tiny viper]

I am reading criminal idees

[heavy vigil]

forming siberia or turkestan too

[plain tusk]

I tried to unite Germany as Bavaria in RT56 but the industry was so bad I gave up

[slim nexus]

It's easy regardless

[plain tusk]

I am not that good

[slim nexus]

You speak the language big man

[leaden mulch]

Forming siberia as tannu tuva is fun

[plain tusk]

If it gets to advanced grammar I am a bit screwed though

[heavy vigil]

if you think any country, even releasable, in europe has bad eco you have not played real bad nations yet

[hasty owl]

Just pick what sounds right

[tiny viper]

Conquering the Alps as Russian Liechtenstein is funny (I know it's modded but yeah)

[plain tusk]

One MIL was enough to give me a iron deficit

[plain tusk]

Peak HOI4 is picking a schizo nation and conquering a whole continent

[heavy vigil]

imagine theres a country with not enough core pop to make a division, no military high command for ticking xp that can only be released ideally late 37 ish and while it has formables it takes taking on 3 majors to form it

(assuming historical map but on ahist it still sucks as well)

like it does exist

and with division i mean batallion as well

500 manpower batallion

[leaden mulch]

Portrait of marx

[tiny viper]

Na I am not gonna do that to myself

[heavy vigil]

no xp

[heavy vigil]

you have to spend focus time

[heavy vigil]

its the western sahara btw actual trash nation

would not recommend

[tiny viper]

I mean in theory can't u make a division with only 1 artillery in it

[heavy vigil]

no build slots no resources you cant even build it up before releasing

[heavy vigil]

and you dont have the manpower for that

you would on like extensive conscription tbf

[leaden mulch]

Attache

[tiny viper]

I mean it costs 500

Manpower

[heavy vigil]

you get released after spanish civil war

so only china war

and you need it for doctrines too

[tiny viper]

So you would only need like 101 to be able to use it no?

[heavy vigil]

yes you dont have that

[hasty owl]

That's such a stupid idea

[heavy vigil]

20K core pop

[leaden mulch]

Manpower over doctrine

[heavy vigil]

i should try but i dont wanna play hist vanilla ai

[tiny viper]

I mean to be able to only create 1div to gain XP by training should be alright no?

[heavy vigil]

ill do it my first run after the update

[hasty owl]

Then you would always use mass mob

[heavy vigil]

with what manpower or which guns

like it has nothing redeemable

you can try playing it

[summer beacon]

WHAT

[tiny viper]

20k should be enough to get 1artillery batallion as a unite

[leaden mulch]

Only 20k manpower

[plain tusk]

That happens

[heavy vigil]

core pop*

not manpower

[hasty owl]

Do that and get ideology loyalty. That sounds horrible.

[tiny viper]

With Marx protrai you can get your manpower I guess

[plain tusk]

I once took Berlin as france only for the yanks to get the credit

[leaden mulch]

My bad

[heavy vigil]

no

you dont have the xp to finish massmob

[plain tusk]

For the first time I think ill experience WW2 in south america

[heavy vigil]

either SFP for first node or GBP for fourth

[tiny viper]

20k should give like 300manpower no?

[plain tusk]

Wild

[heavy vigil]

maybe

[hasty owl]

What would you do then?

[heavy vigil]

thats assuming theyre not like gone

[leaden mulch]

Read

[heavy vigil]

but yeah

10/10 trash nation

[leaden mulch]

Which one is this?

[heavy vigil]

if you disagree, try to play it and win and idk ill give you a month of discord nitro if you get the 2 formables done

western sahara

[leaden mulch]

K

[tiny viper]

Oh brother you will regret this

Historical and Ai?

I meant

Vanilla instead of ai

Are joining factions allowed yes or no?

Brother for you I'll even record that shit

[leaden mulch]

Blud is going to embarass himself

It'll be fine tho

[wet plover]

Jesus Christ that’s a lot of bombers

[plain tusk]

Either infinite glory or utter shame

[plain tusk]

HOI4 players look at this and go "Yeah this is perfect for me to stare at for four hours"

[heavy vigil]

ofc

[leaden mulch]

True

[heavy vigil]

play how you want

[tiny viper]

Na I will make it harder for myself and say no faction

[wet plover]

Only four?

[heavy vigil]

idc if you cheese it

[tiny viper]

I'll show dominance

[leaden mulch]

I'm going to play as schizo as possible

[heavy vigil]

because its still hard btw

you are time locked

[leaden mulch]

Is there a time limit or can this run go as long as you want

[heavy vigil]

like you need to do certain focuses for eco and manpower but can only be released after spanish civil war end

[heavy vigil]

play how you want if you manage it ill be impressed

[leaden mulch]

K

[heavy vigil]

2 formables

iirc

[tiny viper]

Would say 1950 is maximum

[heavy vigil]

i play longer than that sometimes and it does not get easier

manpower becomes the main resource

[tiny viper]

I'll try smth funny

[heavy vigil]

the thing is

paradropping france wont work

they should be in the allies by the time you have the planes and manpower

[plain tusk]

Ok sorry for asking again, but is it normal for China and Japan to go to war before China forms the United Front?

[tiny viper]

As said I won't join a faction

[plain tusk]

I wanna know cuz I might not be able to do a historical game

[heavy vigil]

im just saying thats like the common cheese method

[tiny viper]

So I'll only do africa massacre

[dusky burrow]

i think it can happen

[plain tusk]

I have a mod thats meant to make national opinions matter more, so all the nations that have fascist ideology are joing axis and etc

I am worried that it will result in way too many nations in WW2 and cause a lot of lag

Cuz there is already some nations in South America that are part of the Axis and Comintern

[tiny viper]

Bur chat

I'll head to sleep now

3:15i am sleepy

So night night

@heavy vigil ill keep u updated tmrw

[plain tusk]

Gn

[leaden mulch]

to show legitamacy imma do it in ironman with achievements on

[hasty owl]

Why is nobody in the hoi4 server american?

[leaden mulch]

i am

casey is south american

depends on what u mean by american

[hasty owl]

I mean like in the USA

[leaden mulch]

born and raised as a US citizen

[dusky burrow]

the USA?!

they have internet access?

[leaden mulch]

yes

[hasty owl]

Didn't they make the internet?

[leaden mulch]

bluh

[dusky burrow]

i thought their supreme leader of the USA has blocked internet access to the outside world

[plain tusk]

You guys got any tips for playing as Australia? I wanted to try out the pacific front and Australia seemed like a good introduction

[leaden mulch]

idk

[heavy vigil]

play new zealand instead its easier

[leaden mulch]

true

[hasty owl]

Why not play Japan?

[heavy vigil]

you get good planes as well

just do plane tree

[leaden mulch]

ive done a singular run as nz and it was peak

[plain tusk]

I heard Japan was like the least beginner friendly nation

[heavy vigil]

i mean

[hasty owl]

Are you a beginner to the game?

[heavy vigil]

it kind of isnt but its just infantry and air gameplay

[plain tusk]

Kinda?

[heavy vigil]

and you learn how to kill submarine

[plain tusk]

I am still getting the hang of it

I don’t have a standard to really check my skill level

Like "if you can do this thing then you are good"

Yknow?

[unreal hinge]

Anybody know anh good up to date tutorial videos on airforce?

[leaden mulch]

what province does it spawn from?

[heavy vigil]

rio do uoro

[leaden mulch]

ok

[dusky burrow]

the one true spain

[plain tusk]

Later

[dusky burrow]

also france in the desert lmao

[hasty owl]

Once you can easily win as Germany I'd say you are okay at the game.

[heavy vigil]

its genuinely easier to learn and play than australia

and pretty similar

[plain tusk]

I am just wondering what I should really do as Australia. If should help defend north africa or take east africa, focus on defending Indonesia and so on

There is a focus tree meant to help defend Singapore

[heavy vigil]

theyre part of one of the longest one-sided wars ive ever seen the ai have

[plain tusk]

I won as France does that count for something

[heavy vigil]

theyve been fighting it out for like 40 years and have not been able to kill japan nor has japan been able to make a comeback (ive been aiding them) besides rebuilding the navy pretty impressively for ai

[hasty owl]

Did you ever fall and go into exile?

[plain tusk]

Nope

[hasty owl]

Did you lose Paris ever?

[heavy vigil]

@dusky burrow look at this unfair lineup

[plain tusk]

No

I held Germany back, but I did lose Benelux though

And Indochina

[hasty owl]

Japan's gots this

[hasty owl]

What year did you win?

[plain tusk]

Brazil mentioned 🇧🇷 🇧🇷 🇧🇷

[heavy vigil]

faction map to visualize

they got palau tho

[plain tusk]

Around late 1943 I think

[hasty owl]

The Japanese will still win

[heavy vigil]

i mean ive been helping them a lot so maybe

[hasty owl]

What is that blue?

[opal nymph]

836k casualties
1% war contribution

35k casualties
2% war contribution

Poland stronk, Sweden fail

[hasty owl]

Took over 20 times the casualties and get half the credit

[heavy vigil]

tannu tuva faction that ukraine took over

[heavy vigil]

its for a good reason tbf

[opal nymph]

Playing Poland I assume?

[deep solstice]

stalin DO SOMETHING

lmfao 😭

[heavy vigil]

russia

[rapid furnace]

Naw I saw worse

[deep solstice]

I lowk js pulled out of the USSR

im not dealing with ts

🥀

im too busy cooking japan

[rapid furnace]

Bro what did my brother draw

Sry if this a bit off topic

[deep solstice]

lock in stalin ✌️

[deep solstice]

"I hate tanks bro why do you like them so much"

[hasty owl]

Maybe land in Europe

[deep solstice]

I HAVE to deal with japan

the UK, and literally ALL the other allies COULD do something

[hasty owl]

The Chinese look good enough

[deep solstice]

I tried leaving the chinese alone

and within 3 months they had lost 20 states

no point

[eternal aspen]

Basically hoi4

[deep solstice]

I wish i had a ss before and after

[hasty owl]

The ussr is a better ally than china

[hasty owl]

Woah buddy. What you mean by ss?

[deep solstice]

Screenshot

oh damn

we took back all of africa

well now that I have 24 divisions maybe I should help the USSR....

[vagrant dagger]

thank god i have so much stability, i would be dying if not

[deep solstice]

I see opportunity

the lion smells fear

[hasty owl]

https://tenor.com/view/edna-mode-too-much-darling-incredibles-too-much-gif-13919919

[vagrant dagger]

i actually think its capped

[dusky burrow]

that's just kaiserreich

[hasty owl]

I'm shocked you gain pp

[deep solstice]

DANIT

[vagrant dagger]

thankfully

[dusky burrow]

Yeah you naval invade with more

[vagrant dagger]

if not id be actually cooked

[deep solstice]

I thought they would hold for a second

Britain if your gonna naval invade

please

do it right

[vagrant dagger]

at this point im seeing how far my stability goes

ggd

[rugged nova]

people of

szchio hoi4

[hasty owl]

Better than any pron

[deep solstice]

well then

we are all doomed

[random delta]

pron? like prawn?

[deep solstice]

my only ever iron man run btw

and the soviets do this btw

like

btw

this is

garbage btw

like wtf btw

[hasty owl]

No. Switch the r and o

[deep solstice]

like fight for yourselves you idiotic commies btw

WHY

ITS ALWAYS IN IRON MAN MODE BRO

[random delta]

no🤑

[deep solstice]

I HATE THIS GAME 😭

[hasty owl]

Get good kitten

[deep solstice]

What am I supposed to do

[random delta]

me too bud

[deep solstice]

as the USA

I have to help the chinese

or they capitulate

I have to assist invasions

[hasty owl]

Just navel invade Germany

[deep solstice]

its 1942.

THIS IS NOT MY JOB

IN 1942

WHY HAVE THE SOVIETS CAPITULATED

in 1942.

this is FRYING ME

[deep solstice]

I did tbf

[opal nymph]

Should have lend leased them

[deep solstice]

but yk

I guess the soviets are just morons

[opal nymph]

Also I won the war as Canada in the 1939 start date

[deep solstice]

so 20k guns and 1k tanks wasnt enough 🥀

[leaden mulch]

im bad at this game

[opal nymph]

Soviets died in 41

So

[deep solstice]

these damn commies bro

[opal nymph]

It's possible

[deep solstice]

now I have to pick up their slack

[opal nymph]

You can win, especially as the US

[deep solstice]

yeah

your not wrong tbh

[hasty owl]

Did you bomb the Germans?

[opal nymph]

Just downfall Japan if you need to save China

[deep solstice]

1942 btw

cant even bomb the germans 😭

either way I lend leased them 20k guns at the start of the war

[hasty owl]

Don't you have the uk as an ally?

[deep solstice]

yup

dont HAVE a nuclear bomb to drop on them 😭

[opal nymph]

Did you make flying fortresses?

[random delta]

i have been in a brutal slog against the soviets and commie britain and greece and romania and turkey as monarchist gErmactuallymany and its ALL finlands fault (and italys)

[opal nymph]

Nukes arent needed to win

[hasty owl]

Put long range bombers there and bomb the German industry

[deep solstice]

oh

I mean I could

but I was doing that

[opal nymph]

You just need good marines to land a D-Day if Germany defeated the Soviets

[deep solstice]

like genuinely the soveits had EVERYTHING they needed

we bombed them, naval invaded, took africa, lend leased them

[opal nymph]

They didn't have org in their units

[deep solstice]

soviets at their finest

ill deal with this tmr ngl 😭

[opal nymph]

Also why didn't you invade Italy

[deep solstice]

had to save china

[opal nymph]

Didn't take out Japan immediately?

[deep solstice]

It was 1940 dude 😭

I didnt join the war until 1941

[opal nymph]

Invade Taiwan, Okinawa, and then the home islands?

Yeah, I do the same

[deep solstice]

working on it

I just took taiwan

[leaden mulch]

spain tests my micro skills

i am great at macro

but micro

ughhh

[hasty owl]

@leaden mulch

That's messed up

Who kills solaire

[leaden mulch]

me

although its split

50/50 i kill him or dont

[hasty owl]

Still evil

[leaden mulch]

his armor though 🤤

[hasty owl]

It's not even that good

[leaden mulch]

dripsouls

[hasty owl]

Dark souls one is not the most dripy of the souls game

[leaden mulch]

solaire's armor or elite knight set is drip

or if giant dad build

[hasty owl]

Meta maxing in a skill based game is just so bad

[leaden mulch]

?

playing giant dad is cool but thats not all i do

[hasty owl]

It's a meta build

[vague fossil]

I was looking at getting hoi4 is it worth it and how long does it take to learn gng?

[leaden mulch]

ik

[leaden mulch]

if playing multiplayer like 200 hours

[hasty owl]

Do you have friends that play it

[vague fossil]

yeah a couple

[leaden mulch]

its worth it

[vague fossil]

I wasent really worried abt playing multiplayer i just wanted a political game tbh

[hasty owl]

Worth it. It probably will take a while even with friends to learn.

[vague fossil]

and ive been lookin at it seems pre good

but quite complicated looking

[leaden mulch]

playing meta is fine esp if ur playing w/o invasions gng let a person play how they want but i can also send you a recording of me killing havel within 20 minutes of starting the game if u need that

[leaden mulch]

very complicated

[hasty owl]

Do you use summons during boss fights?

[leaden mulch]

no

[vague fossil]

you reckon i get it?

[hasty owl]

Do you play elden ring?

[leaden mulch]

you will sink much time

[vague fossil]

it cant be that hard 2 learn

[leaden mulch]

yes

[vague fossil]

elden ring goated

[leaden mulch]

i beat pre nerf radahn

in dlc

[hasty owl]

Do you use rivers of blood?

[leaden mulch]

no

[hasty owl]

Maybe you are not that bad

[merry bloom]

is 8gb ram good for hoi4?

[hasty owl]

I wish I bought the dlc sooner so I could beat him in his pre nerf state

[leaden mulch]

#tech-support

or smth

idfk

read

on steam the requirements

[leaden mulch]

just because i said that i had fun occasionally in DS1

pluh

[hasty owl]

Thought you played with the most overpowered builds possible

[leaden mulch]

i said i played giantdad occasionally

headahh

anyways

those who are off topic in hoi general

mods please dont smite us

[grand wolf]

Is ideology drift defense good for anything

[leaden mulch]

no

[grand wolf]

Alright open borders it is

[nova rune]

haven't showered since 2022, the water is dark brown LMAOOOOOO
||this is satire||

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-thank-you-thank-you-thanks-youre-welcome-thank-you-youre-welcome-gif-13507037457028433257

[hasty owl]

If you want to keep your current ideology

[leaden mulch]

nah

[grand wolf]

Im playing millennium dawn and only have 77% employment fulfillment

[hasty owl]

My opinion no longer matters cause I don't play that mod

[hasty owl]

It's great

[grand wolf]

Rip

[leaden mulch]

i played probably 100 hours of millennium dawn

not much

[desert pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-flightreacts-tongue-tongue-laugh-gif-13724048537815479089

[fickle thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-ltg-ban-this-bot-delete-messages-bot-spam-gif-14610588642106395216

[eternal aspen]

Im gonna murk you for this

Put them all together

[random delta]

is great war redux actually a good mod

[devout trench]

better than actual great war mod imo

[random delta]

not what i asked

[devout trench]

on scale of comparing to the og great war it is

comparing to other mods it is not so much

it is very much dependant on what type of mod you are looking for

[random delta]

well according to the goat isorrowproductions it fell off

[devout trench]

GW fell off

for a while now...

[random delta]

i was talking about redux

[devout trench]

both of the GW mods fell off

redux is just the KR of GW

[weary edge]

Go touch some graß 🥀

[devout trench]

play GWR if you want freedom, play GW if you want historical

[random delta]

i heard that they removed the fun focus trees from gwr

[devout trench]

not heard about that

[weary edge]

What's GW and GWR

[devout trench]

great war and great war redux

[weary edge]

Oh yeah

That sucks

[random delta]

well i saw isorrowproductions vid on the new update

[devout trench]

GWR always been a bit bland

same with GW

[heavy vigil]

hoi playthrough but you cant change conscription law

[random delta]

i will find you

[devout trench]

average monarchist game

[heavy vigil]

usually you go up from starter with them no?

[heavy vigil]

it cant be that hard no?

[hasty owl]

Do you listen to mommy asmr?

[heavy vigil]

especially as like the US tho youd have to avoid selective service focus

[random delta]

every single monarchist germany run leads to extensive conscription

[heavy vigil]

no

[hasty owl]

You seemed like you would

[devout trench]

https://tenor.com/view/biden-blast-joe-biden-biden-blast-gif-6547929686164862695

[fickle thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-gif-23976170

[devout trench]

a bit extreme acusations here

[hasty owl]

No it's not

[tulip thorn]

The only good asmr is making a large epic encirclement amsr

[devout trench]

ISP asmr is the only asmr i listen too

[random delta]

taiwan is country

[hasty owl]

You forgot the a

[fickle thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-unbelievable-surprised-at-computer-shocked-at-computer-gif-1790140920113201224

[devout trench]

rule 2

[random delta]

that was intentional

[hasty owl]

Nah. I think your just stupid.

[hasty owl]

What?

[random delta]

you aint hiding it mah boi

[merry kiln]

We ALL saw

[random delta]

did you get a screenshot

[hasty owl]

You guys saw nothing

[random delta]

saw everything btw

[merry kiln]

No 🥀

[devout trench]

https://tenor.com/view/pushsupreme-mongoliamode-mongolia-supreme-mongolian-gif-25189013

[random delta]

yey

[hasty owl]

Ai

[fickle thicket]

oh hell nah

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-stare-at-paper-gif-5257839294650729742

[devout trench]

call me genghis the way i save china

(i infact do not save china)

[random delta]

we need north belgium as netherlands core states

[fickle thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-woah-wait-what-shocked-what-did-you-say-gif-16673454

[devout trench]

is this 1836 or something

[random delta]

yes because dutch population to this day

[hasty owl]

Belgium is just not a real country

[fickle thicket]

technically u get north belgium cored via benelux he got a point

[random delta]

SOMBODY gets it

[devout trench]

wasnt really ever meant to be...

[random delta]

i mean base game

[fickle thicket]

mtg gonna get integrated on the 20th

[random delta]

i was about to screenshot btw

[hasty owl]

What is mtg?

[fickle thicket]

man the guns

unc dlc

[random delta]

that doesnt change the netherlands thingy

[fickle thicket]

so if i fired up base game hoi i wont see a benelux path

[random delta]

yes

[fickle thicket]

bet

[random delta]

also base switz dont have nothin either

[fickle thicket]

true

[random delta]

or any latin american country

tho man the guns getting integrated so mexico gets a tree

[dusky burrow]

seven research slots in dixie

rip

[cedar kite]

i got unlucky but its possible to get up to 12

[dusky burrow]

How

[hasty owl]

Might as well have full research

[random delta]

son😭 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 im crine 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[cedar kite]

ussualy 7 - 10 in normal cirumstances

[fickle thicket]

uh huh

[cedar kite]

that path got added in gtd, well the eu part

[weary edge]

Starting play as Germany,I decide to make fortress at Berlin and keep Berlin stable

[fickle thicket]

i only have mtg

thats it

[hasty owl]

It's the tien hater

[cedar kite]

yeah but the update that introduced it not the dlc

1.15

[fickle thicket]

when was mtg released

2017?

[weary edge]

I don't even know who is tien

[cedar kite]

a lot of luck and civil war shenanigans

[cedar kite]

2019

[fickle thicket]

what version

[hasty owl]

He's a fighter from dragon ball

[dusky burrow]

I see

[weary edge]

Heard DragonBall before but never heard him

Yall I am making Berlin as a fortress

[cedar kite]

followed a guide on the wiki

[split bane]

It's alright, if you want to play a ww1 mod then it's good, but (being a ww1 mod) warfare is pretty slow

[fickle thicket]

are u at war

[heavy vigil]

its pretty fast tbh

[weary edge]

No

[dusky burrow]

Yeah GWR is fun

[heavy vigil]

war ends in like 1-2 years if you play well

[fickle thicket]

dont waste the ic then

[weary edge]

But I am making a save that Berlin became a fortress

[dusky burrow]

favorite gwr template?

[hasty owl]

Germany is the only nation worth playing in it

[fickle thicket]

so if u get clapped u can fall back

[dusky burrow]

I thought that was Italy

[weary edge]

Ye

[dusky burrow]

Germany's been released in an incomplete state

[fickle thicket]

how many hrs u got

[hasty owl]

Italy would not be that strong

[random delta]

WHAAATTTT? YOURE TELLING ME THE MOD ABOUT THE WAR THAT HAD THE LONGEST BATTLE IN HISTORY TAKES A LONG TIME?

[weary edge]

Wym

[dusky burrow]

oh wow confederate chicago

[fickle thicket]

how many hours on hoi

[weary edge]

700 I remember

[fickle thicket]

do u have experience with tonkers

[split bane]

They got rid of the HRE path in the German update (which is the main one people have been complaining about) but they revamped Italy recently and you can make the Byzantine Empire as Greece for what that's worth

[cedar kite]

confederates annex unaligned during the civil war

[heavy vigil]

idk i dont play it

[weary edge]

Bunkers or tonkers

[fickle thicket]

tonkers

[heavy vigil]

ive just seen some people play it on like youtube and its like yeah

not that slow

[fickle thicket]

tanks

[random delta]

ok

[weary edge]

No I ain't using tanks

This save

[fickle thicket]

so mass assualt inf

[weary edge]

Ye

[hasty owl]

Best infantry

[fickle thicket]

better go left side economy

[weary edge]

I am go straight on military

[fickle thicket]

so mefo bills

[weary edge]

Uh

I canceled the mefo bills

[fickle thicket]

so left side economy it is

[heavy vigil]

also not rlly been playing a lot of hoi anyway in the past bit

[devout trench]

how do i deal with MEFO?

i lose like

almost 50-60% of my factories by the time i can even get to war

i always cancel them and go for the left side eco

[weary edge]

I justifying war goals on Denmark

[dusky burrow]

Lmao brilliant move there paradox

[eternal aspen]

Thats the plan

[cedar kite]

eh me and some others have found way worse things than that

[sage karma]

how do you get manpower?

[devout trench]

max width calvary, as genghis intended

[sage karma]

i have enough factories and enough equipment.
but lacks manpower

[sage karma]

i'm already scraping the barrel

[tulip thorn]

Well pretty much nothing you can do

[hasty owl]

Did you do mass mob?

[sage karma]

also recruiting from conquered states

[sage karma]

nope i did superior firepower

[tulip thorn]

You could take a super high pop state

[weary edge]

Sao Paulo WT*

[devout trench]

who are you playing as?

[sage karma]

i need to send more man to death

[sage karma]

mongolia

[hasty owl]

You could do that for a little bit of man power. Also an advisor called something like prince of terror gives non core people to be sent to the army.

[tulip thorn]

Karl marx portrait fr fr

[hasty owl]

Do you have any of your own guys on garrison?

[cobalt dawn]

Anime mods when they take more space than the original mods:

[tulip thorn]

Had to tag to a communist country for this

[cobalt dawn]

🤔

why tf do they bloat so much

[weary edge]

Does everyone bully Denmark

Always

[random delta]

im sad because BASE GAME monarchist germany doesnt have a focus to take south jutland from dennmark

[tulip thorn]

Wait really

Lmao

[sage karma]

yea

[sage karma]

Karl marx ftw

[heavy vigil]

make mils not civs

[tulip thorn]

Either swap to no garrison untill you get that manpower pack, or try to see if an ally or their puppet will do it for you

Dont stay on no garrison unless you want 100 resistance

and after just do civ oversight

[heavy vigil]

i mean

thats only at war/low stab

it normally only drifts to like 50-60%

max

[tulip thorn]

I didnt know that

I always just use civ oversight lol

[heavy vigil]

its +40%

not +100%

still kills the factories tho

[frozen rock]

can someon play w me, im a pro.

[tulip thorn]

#1239926537512292362

[frozen rock]

what about a no

[tulip thorn]

Hard to use the correct channel?

[frozen rock]

nah.. I just wanna be different from everyone else because im cool beans Ok.?

[tulip thorn]

So its cool to use general for asking about mp

Sounds real cool

[frozen rock]

Yeh, like I said i wanna be different :/

[sage karma]

mongolia really have manpower issue

[tulip thorn]

98% of people arent going to join you from general

Lots of people here arent mp players

Use the mp channels for mp players

[frozen rock]

What aboit a no😑😑😑😑

[sage karma]

mp matches takes a long time, and needs stable ping depending on the region

it's almost impossible

[frozen rock]

im sayinhhgg......

[sage karma]

unless you playing with friends

[tulip thorn]

Mp is so "fun"

Pve mp is boring

[sage karma]

i like ck3 mp.

i always sleeps with their wife

[frozen rock]

more like shut up twilight sparkle,,, grr😑😑😑😑

[tulip thorn]

Ouch

[frozen rock]

im gonja censor your censor so hard until u bleed

[tulip thorn]

Im going to go cry to the german kaiser now

[frozen rock]

dont fw mw🗿🚬🚬🚬

[tulip thorn]

Im real impressed

How many slots u got

8?

[cedar kite]

8

[tulip thorn]

Nice

[eternal aspen]

How?

[cedar kite]

Civil war schenanigans

[eternal aspen]

Ah

Ngl, these mountains seem perfect for the borders of an empire

I should make that in hoi4

[fossil dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/austria-empire-waffle342-gif-26747972

[wraith mauve]

Can this beat Germans in tno?

2nd west Russian war

[fossil dragon]

What mod it is

[wraith mauve]

I have slow ass pc that’s why I’m not screenshotting

[wraith mauve]

The new order last days of Europe

I unified Russia under democracy

[azure tangle]

Honestly tno is overrated

It’s mostly js story based

[wraith mauve]

Ya but it’s fun

[fossil dragon]

Shure it can win but i would cut it just 12 inf battalions

[wraith mauve]

Ya but still fun after a lot of Russia playhtorughs

[azure tangle]

You don’t get enough action compared to the base game

[fossil dragon]

True

[azure tangle]

Plus the devs are irritating cuz theyre tryna be “realistic” with it

[fossil dragon]

Nha better then fire rises

[azure tangle]

We lost a couple good paths to that

[azure tangle]

Haven’t tried fire rises

[wraith mauve]

I have 1500 advanced 1970 fighters in stockpile

[wraith mauve]

My game crashes after 2027

[fossil dragon]

Well it's 2027

[azure tangle]

Honestly someone needs to make a hoi4 mod which is js the base game but with better colonial management

[weary edge]

I AM STRUGGLING AT NETHERLANDS

[wraith mauve]

What?

[fossil dragon]

Nha for me best mod is millenium dawn

Or nuevo vexilium

[azure tangle]

If your UK, you shouldn’t have to train troops in London to send them all the way to Egypt

Imagine this

[weary edge]

HELP ROTTERDAM IS HARD TO ATTACK

[wraith mauve]

I never play France or Uk

[azure tangle]

The colonies like Egypt, Nigeria etc are still part of “Britain” and have the same color

[wraith mauve]

Boring ass nations

[fossil dragon]

Tonk and big gun, city go boom

[azure tangle]

But the borders are there

[weary edge]

I have only lighter tanks

[azure tangle]

So theyre like half UK half puppet

And they can train their own armies but you still control them as if theyre your own country

[fossil dragon]

I mean i don't like playing major nations they are to easy

[wraith mauve]

My airforce is massive as hell

[azure tangle]

They can’t declare wars and if you declare a war on another nation they declare war too

And you can take control of their troops at any point

There should also be a state transfer thing for puppet states

So if I wanna give Newfoundland to Canada I can for some small price like political power or manpower or sth idk

[wraith mauve]

There is

[fossil dragon]

No just that no it will turn sp in mp mods

[fossil dragon]

It's a mod

[azure tangle]

Accept the supports at the top they might help

[azure tangle]

It’s a mod and it works different iirc

[weary edge]

What bro you expect Denmark and Iceland can help?

[azure tangle]

Wdym

[azure tangle]

Isnt Hungary there

They can help a lil

Other then that idk im ass at the game

[fossil dragon]

This is in mp version for road to 56 where you can buy and sell states so anything that makes sp more similar to mp is bad

[wraith mauve]

Holy supply

Dude right click notifications at top

[fossil dragon]

Since mp is bad, it's to meta no fun

[weary edge]

?

[azure tangle]

Change of topic

[wraith mauve]

Bros mountaineers are just walking without guns or any equipment of any kinds

[azure tangle]

Is there anywhere where I can find a map of the new states in the next dlc

Cuz I rlly hoped they fixed some Soviet-controlled states that could go to china that are similar to their Qing borders

[split bane]

You need to basically look at all the dev diaries and look at the state changes that way

[fossil dragon]

No but china will be way more carved

[azure tangle]

It’ll be accurate thank god

Plus the ma cliques are technically 1 nation but divided into the 3 families

[fossil dragon]

I just hope philipines don't get some stupidly hard achivments

[azure tangle]

So that makes it look way more carved

[fossil dragon]

They should use 8 year war of resistance borders

[wraith mauve]

18khm i have speedy tanks

Why does germany own Outland

Ostland

[fossil dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/tank-tank-jumping-bt7-zeke-gif-21777189

[wraith mauve]

Yes

[azure tangle]

Can you send pic

Cuz idk

[fossil dragon]

https://share.google/ywedCUd5H8zmJ5z6m

Like china just whit more warlords

[random delta]

i finally got the screenshot for myself

[azure tangle]

Oh I thought u meant state borders

Im not talking abt nations

[random delta]

yes really

[azure tangle]

Im talking abt states

I wanna reclaim Qing borders as china

[fossil dragon]

I mean some states are diferent shape

[azure tangle]

Give me a second

I wanna make sth like this

Let me make an idea of the state rearrangement

[weary edge]

Ye I repeated Dunkerque

[wraith mauve]

4 divs bro

French army still good bro

[weary edge]

I LIBERATED PARIS

YE

PARIS IST DEUTSCHES

[wraith mauve]

Uhh

Ok ig

[azure tangle]

Ok so to get started here’s Kashmir and surrounding areas

China after winning the civil war would claim some of Kashmir, that should be a state

[weary edge]

FRANCE SURRENDERED,HELL YA

[weary edge]

👍

[azure tangle]

Also states between Nepal and Kashmir which are their own states in India irl modern day, they are the himilayan so those would be nice to control

[wraith mauve]

Tuff or nah

[azure tangle]

Northernmost Vietnam and northernmost Laos

I have northernmost Laos js to make the border look smoother if u wanna spend the extra time taking that single-province state

[wraith mauve]

Jan 1st 1975 nothing since 1971 which was Russian unification

[azure tangle]

And then here is a very rough idea of the borders into Central Asia

Again they should heavily resemble the Qing borders at their greatest extent

Hoi4 devs lowkey gotta hire me cuz I’m cooking

[sage karma]

new dlc release date?

ah 21st

6 dats

[azure tangle]

Here we go

Something like this should be able to be done in the game

I also think the “Chinese empire” flag should differ from the Qing flag, puyi forms the Qing dynasty but a non-Qing emperor will form the regular Chinese Empire cuz that makes sense

Oh yea i also hope the dlc lets you reunify china as Tibet and proclaim some sort of Buddhist theocracy

[eternal aspen]

Atp give korea and China region as subjects?

[eternal aspen]

OMG I NEED THAY

[azure tangle]

Thats not the point im tryna throw out ideas for state border redistribution

Look up a lil and I made some rough sketches ab how the borders could change

For states outside of china

[eternal aspen]

Ah

[azure tangle]

So that china can reclaim the Qing borders when the empire was at its territorial height

Something I’ve been wanting for years and I really hope this dlc adds

[dusky burrow]

get buryatia and kachin for good measure

and ryukyus too

[azure tangle]

Would look weird with buryatia imo

Plus Ryukyu can go to Japan as a puppet state

Like what did in my last mostly full china run

[eternal aspen]

They also owned the 2 states on the indentation of the soviet/turkistan border

[azure tangle]

I regret not taking more from India

[azure tangle]

Wdym

Which ones

[eternal aspen]

These 2

[azure tangle]

Those would be states still

If you wanna claim them you can

I wouldn’t cuz I like it when u keep the lake as a sort of guide for the borders i js think it looks cooler

[slim nexus]

somebody wanna come play with me?

[azure tangle]

#historical-multiplayer #alt-history-multiplayer

[weary edge]

Italy screwed at Greece

[late beacon]

god morgon från Sverige, alla! (Good morning from Sweden, everyone!)

[brittle monolith]

Anyone has a goof tutorial so a i can learn the game?

[copper cobalt]

play and figure out o,o

[late beacon]

build more military and civilian factories for war and trade, both build infrastructure and trade for materials (iron, rubber, aluminium, etc.). also, use political decisions, they're important.

[late beacon]

also, assign many divisions to create a army and assign a commander to your army, since they are required to make orders to your army (political power would be needed). research is also important for getting new and upgraded weapons and such. also, remember that you can also trade military armor and such with other countries.

[tulip thorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvHT121_lWQ

[brittle monolith]

Thank you guys a very lot!

[late beacon]

yw!

[late beacon]

also, remember to exercise your divisions

[quick trout]

Hi

[patent thistle]

another day, another time for great war redux korea

[grand wolf]

2000 light attack, 2000 hard attack, 3000 breakthrough

[heavy vigil]

good morning

[ancient pond]

Good morning

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[patent thistle]

morning

[cedar lance]

alr

6 days left

till NCNS releases

tho it comes out on the 4th day of the week

ill try to ask if i can buy it immediatly

[neat kayak]

One year ago on this day austria got a focus tree

Happy b-day Austria 🙂

[patent thistle]

korea going good

[honest bluff]

any mod recs for someone playing vanilla, who's sick of Kaiserreich?

[obsidian token]

wturn the graphics up bro

[patent thistle]

i dont want my laptop to turn into an atomic bomb so no

and done

seems like the russian railway also seized the japanese pne

[tiny iris]

Guys, why doesn't Lichenstein exist in this game?

There is a focus in Germany's tree to stage a coup in it.

I would love Lichenstein to make super heavy railway artillery.

[patent thistle]

i think there is more important stuff then adding some microstates into this game

dont think the qing is feeling so "great" rightnow

[heavy vigil]

its an austria formable

[hollow narwhal]

who even needs capital ships
💀 the onyl reason im making carriers is that some focus unlocked them and made one lol

my entire danish navy sank so im making a new one lool

[fast bough]

Can somebody teach me how to play.

If they can.

If they can't it's alright

[hollow narwhal]

uhh
honestly just play

at some point you will get hwo the game works lmao

or watch bitt3rsteel on youtube

[uncut carbon]

Watch videos and play a lot and you’ll learn

Nothing or no one can teach u better than just sheer experience from trial and error

Game is a lot less complicated than it looks

[hollow narwhal]

i wonder has anyone ever built a fuel silo in the history of hoi4 lmao

other than me accidentally clicking it instead of mil 💀

and that one achievement iirc

[uncut carbon]

May be useful but u can just buy more fuel and you’ll be ok

[heavy vigil]

yes

there was some theory on how it could be good in kr

[copper sluice]

cant wait to play japan

[copper sluice]

I once accidentally built nuclear research facilities instead of reactors

I realised my error after the second one was done

[rich sand]

bruh

[copper sluice]

least scuffed non historical game

[hollow narwhal]

refitting ships is kinda fun in a way

[spiral marsh]

Does anyone know if there is a way I can get the total graphic redux mod combined with another custom portrait mod?

[rich sand]

does that really happen? like is that normal if you go non historical?

[spiral marsh]

I always play non-historical and I saw chile owning Ireland once.

[rich sand]

like non op nation taking on actual op nation

[rich sand]

HAHAHAHA

i might play non historical once and never get back to it

[misty fossil]

exploded

[bright matrix]

@dusk patrol

Oaftonbe

Oaftonbr

My Nick

[hollow narwhal]

why am i doing so much logistic damage but no cas lmao

[bright matrix]

Add

@dusk patrol

See my messages

[viscid stirrup]

Non historical is peak

[bright matrix]

Friendship, friend

[viscid stirrup]

🥹

Its so peak

[bright matrix]

Annoying farts

[hollow narwhal]

cooked, or not cooked
that is the question.

[bright matrix]

What empire are you?

[hollow narwhal]

nordic league

lol i wanted to form the north sea empire but thats kinda imposible without sweating the entire game

i like the "try, fail, rage quit, repeat" method

really annoying that u cant form all the formables together

[tacit root]

does anyone know if hoi4 is gonna be on sale for black friday

[hollow narwhal]

and they had to put the beta for the version AFTER that nerf

💀

[tacit root]

i might have to buy

[hollow narwhal]

hoi4 itself or dlcs

[remote remnant]

русские тут есть?

[bright matrix]

@hollow narwhal

Are you online?

[hollow narwhal]

hi

what

yes?

[bright matrix]

Дайте мне, пожалуйста, горячую русскую девушку.

Then

I need your help.

[hollow narwhal]

with what

[bright matrix]

When should I know when to switch my aircraft, tank, and infantry equipment models?

[viscid stirrup]

Yes

[bright matrix]

So, if I only change something in the design, do I lose much industrial efficiency? In that case, is it better to just replace it without updating the model?

[viscid stirrup]

If you change only 1 module, then youll lose a small part of your efficency

[bright matrix]

What do I do then?

[viscid stirrup]

Put if you replace the entire chassis, then youll have to losr alll the efficency

[viscid stirrup]

What you want

[bright matrix]

Man, I never produce much.

[hollow narwhal]

well fyi im not good at the game
but with air i switch (if theres a major upgrade) immediately
with tanks and infantry it depends if you have a good stockpile or if its way better

[viscid stirrup]

Hoi4 is a game

Its meant to be fun, not stresful

[bright matrix]

And by the way, what should I do when I start the game? Military or civilian factories?

[viscid stirrup]

Dont worry too much about the production efficency, enjoy the game

[viscid stirrup]

Civs

[hollow narwhal]

also LMAO
im gonna run out of CAS

[bright matrix]

This game stressed me out a lot.

How many factories should I put in airplanes and tanks? Also, when should I replace light tanks with medium tanks?

[viscid stirrup]

If hoi4 somehow strrsses you out then you should probably stop playing

Ts is fake

[hollow narwhal]

just play by feel lmao

then restart once u die

[viscid stirrup]

I tried it once it didnt work

[bright matrix]

It took me a year to learn how to win the war in Ethiopia.

[hollow narwhal]

my current production line is completely by feel (ignore the unused factories)

[viscid stirrup]

🗣️

[bright matrix]

Why do you produce so little?

[hollow narwhal]

ok better now

[viscid stirrup]

Reduce the support man

[bright matrix]

This game is very molester

[viscid stirrup]

True...

[hollow narwhal]

my friend calls it a no life game lol

[bright matrix]

This game ir molested my mind.

[hollow narwhal]

i tell him its a no wife game

[viscid stirrup]

Your friend is the lion

[bright matrix]

You definitely won't be hooking up with 5 women in one night playing hoi4.

[viscid stirrup]

🔥 writing

[bright matrix]

Any girls who play hoi4?

[viscid stirrup]

Yes

Obviously

[bright matrix]

Who?

[viscid stirrup]

Blownawish

[bright matrix]

I am black

😈

[viscid stirrup]

Yeah your username makes that clear

[hollow narwhal]

but u know..
a hoi4 player wouldnt have enough free time to cheat
so

LMAO

[bright matrix]

?

Cheat

[hollow narwhal]

like on a partner

cuz theyre busy playing hoi4 !

[viscid stirrup]

Cro just lock your partner up so they cant cheat

(Joke)

[bright matrix]

How do I convince my Brazilian friends not to be xenophobic towards foreigners?

They get angry when people talk about the favelas.

[misty fossil]

thats such a random question

[heavy vigil]

i thinkt thats just a universal experience 😭

[viscid stirrup]

You just need to enciurage him with a semi automatic rifle

[hollow narwhal]

to see if im cooked or not 🤣

uhhhhhhhh

[heavy vigil]

youd be surprised

[bright matrix]

I'm playing as Italy, should I delete all my ships and only build submarines?

[viscid stirrup]

Ai planes suck

[heavy vigil]

why delete

why subs

[viscid stirrup]

If you want to, sure

The decision lies in your hands

[hollow narwhal]

outcome still undecided 😳

[bright matrix]

Well, I generally don't change the modules on my ships because I don't know how to refurbish them afterwards, and also because I don't know any good designers.

[hollow narwhal]

I DID IT

[viscid stirrup]

Im sure you did

[heavy vigil]

thats fine

[hollow narwhal]

sick encirclement

[heavy vigil]

still no reason to delete it

[viscid stirrup]

No one knows navy

[heavy vigil]

its easy

[viscid stirrup]

Ever heard of mp

[heavy vigil]

watch segl's guide

[misty fossil]

talk about it

[viscid stirrup]

Uh huh

Not until you realise you dont have the navy dlc

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1058667062878294106/1430530692583919676/togif.gif

no

build a normal fleet

[hollow narwhal]

HEEHEE

[hollow narwhal]

i dont like pvp games lol

[viscid stirrup]

You dont have to send every frame of your game here🙏 🙏

[hollow narwhal]

but i want to 🙏 🙏

[viscid stirrup]

Why