Can I say that it is very dumb, when you play as main-land china, and give back the territories to Communist China, you just lose the game because you give him back your entire nation?
#hoi4-general
slim nexus
lost hollow
hey guys am i playing good 🥺
patent thistle
gotta love the german reliance on my oil
but hey i aint complaining
free factories
split bane
Well, two years of friendship before you kill each other
patent thistle
Well, two years of friendship before you kill each other
funnily they still cant get the wargoal from the focustree anymore
mystic gale
average non historical game
nocturne cedar
whos winning and why
grizzled zenith
What are the requirements for Iraq to becoma a British puppet?
cerulean bear
grizzled zenith
What are the requirements for Iraq to becoma a British puppet?
Because it has been fully conquered by the UK twice already and it didn't surrender nor did it capitulate(I loaded my save a few times)
grizzled zenith
Because it has been fully conquered by the UK twice already and it didn't surren...
Truly a No Compromise, No Surrender moment
But still I don't want go ro war with Axis while being at war with the Allies and the Soviets just because I need Uraq to form the Macedonian Empire
grizzled zenith
average non historical game
What happened to Lithuania bruh
grizzled zenith
whos winning and why
If not for South America in Axis the Allies, but since you're literally South America taking out the US and then the UK doesn't seem to be too hard for you so Axis will probably win. But hitler sucks ass he can't push shit and it's 1942 already, just like in my Greece game, why is Hitler so stupid bruh
nocturne cedar
If not for South America in Axis the Allies, but since you're literally South Am...
The Axis are managing to win greatly agaisnt the USSR
and I'm prepping for an UK invasion
that'll make us win
- if hitler needs supply
i'll lend lease a shitload of it
oooh i also forgot
i have a defense line just in case
if hitler loses the ussr front
patent thistle
Well, two years of friendship before you kill each other
abusing that to its finest rn
because for some god dam reason the UK isnt doing shit rn
against my stuff
even tho i am litterally in the german faction
nocturne cedar
abusing that to its finest rn
which country are you
patent thistle
which country are you
soviets
nocturne cedar
soviets
i hope the axis win and you loose
also what the hell is that game quality
patent thistle
i hope the axis win and you loose
what the hell man
vichy what the hell are you doing in ireland-
nocturne cedar
vichy what the hell are you doing in ireland-
lol
the german AI managed to pretty much kill the soviets
patent thistle
the german AI managed to pretty much kill the soviets
the ai soviets are just way too weak in my opinion, change my mind.
grizzled zenith
The Axis are managing to win greatly agaisnt the USSR
Lmao
nocturne cedar
the ai soviets are just way too weak in my opinion, change my mind.
THEY CAN WIN AGAISNT FINLAND
IRAN
they ARE strong
patent thistle
THEY CAN WIN AGAISNT FINLAND
i meant for the german war
also finland is also fairly weak considering it gets overrun easily
THERE AINT NO WAY THEY ACCEPTED 😭
nocturne cedar
also finland is also fairly weak considering it gets overrun easily
no they arent
patent thistle
Im looking for people who I can friend that have this game
bro you are asking this at 3:30 my time-
white harbor
im in the u.s.
nocturne cedar
bro you are asking this at 3:30 my time-
time zones
white harbor
so its 8:25 PM from where I am
nocturne cedar
Im looking for people who I can friend that have this game
i would but i dont want to risk getting scammed or shit like that
so sorry but no
white harbor
scammed?
patent thistle
i think it is really time for sleep
white harbor
how is it a scam to friend someone so I can play this with them?
Im not advertising free robux or whatever
lol
pearl jackal
what should i form
patent thistle
i'll form it as the netherlands
pearl jackal
https://tenor.com/view/it-is-acceptable-gus-fring-acceptable-better-call-saul-ac...
cuz i made progress, and netherlands is really fun
and luckily germany is kinda falling apart
but im still super weak so i know i'm gonna somehow fumble this
patent thistle
i am really abusing that german alliance to hell and back
patent thistle
pearl jackal
oh berlin-moscow axis, makes sense
patent thistle
yes the germans have gone that path
nocturne cedar
do i have a good amount of factories?
pearl jackal
yes the germans have gone *that* path
interesting
white harbor
do i have a good amount of factories?
yep
pearl jackal
do i have a good amount of factories?
its good yeah for 1943
patent thistle
do i have a good amount of factories?
not enough my friend
nocturne cedar
its good yeah for 1943
i need so much steel
pearl jackal
i need so much steel
fair enough
dusky burrow
vichy what the hell are you doing in ireland-
winning
dusky burrow
do i have a good amount of factories?
that's a lot
nocturne cedar
totally only soviet fleet
use cheap destroyers
pearl jackal
https://tenor.com/view/it-is-acceptable-gus-fring-acceptable-better-call-saul-ac...
may 1939
france is fumbling because they're france
czechoslovakia's doing well tho
pearl jackal
wow uk en eu lmao
yeah they're my puppet
dusky burrow
are you the netherlands rn?
patent thistle
use cheap destroyers
... CAN YOU PEOPLE F***ING DECIDE HERE? MOST OF THE SERVER WANTS LIGHT CRUISER AND SOME LITTERALLY DM ME FROM THAT CHINA SCREENSHOT I POSTED "BUILD DESTROYERS NOT CRUISERS"
dusky burrow
... CAN YOU PEOPLE F***ING DECIDE HERE? MOST OF THE SERVER WANTS LIGHT CRUISER A...
if you're asking me then light cruisers
nocturne cedar
... CAN YOU PEOPLE F***ING DECIDE HERE? MOST OF THE SERVER WANTS LIGHT CRUISER A...
calm down buddy
dusky burrow
I've generally been consistent on this
opal nymph
... CAN YOU PEOPLE F***ING DECIDE HERE? MOST OF THE SERVER WANTS LIGHT CRUISER A...
Light cruisers to wipe enemy screens
nocturne cedar
it works
dusky burrow
But unfortunately what you ask me to do is get every possible navy player together and decide what is better
light cruisers just eat through the enemy screens in a way destroyers struggle to
you can do rf3 equipped destroyers, but they will have like 25% less damage output
opal nymph
Destroyer spam is to help give quick screening for your capital ships
dusky burrow
Yeah that
opal nymph
But if you want damage, use light cruisers
dusky burrow
Or get some quick screening on convoys while your naval air destroys enemy subs
patent thistle
Destroyer spam is to help give quick screening for your capital ships
thats how i usually use them, and then get carriers and pretender heavy cruisers for light damage
patent thistle
thats how i usually use them, and then get carriers and pretender heavy cruisers...
always worked for me
opal nymph
Heavy cruisers cant do much against light cruisers, right
dusky burrow
that'd be heavy damage
opal nymph
Even though heavy cruisers were designed to take out light cruisers
dusky burrow
Heavy cruisers cant do much against light cruisers, right
which is strange because they should be pretty good
opal nymph
Make heavy cruiser guns give out moderate amounts of light and heavy attack lol
patent thistle
Heavy cruisers cant do much against light cruisers, right
for those are usually the carriers
opal nymph
Heavy cruisers are your cruiser killers
dusky burrow
Heavy cruisers are your cruiser killers
No not really
dusky burrow
Well in IRL heavy cruisers would be cruiser killers
dusky burrow
But in-game since it is stupid you're better off just using light attack cruisers
opal nymph
So im right
patent thistle
Battlecruisers are your fast battleships
battlecruisers and fast battleships are 2 very diffrent contexts
dusky burrow
Yeah then you're right
opal nymph
The limits of the hoi4 naval system
dusky burrow
battlecruisers and fast battleships are 2 very diffrent contexts
that too, battlecruisers are generally less protected against heavy fire
pearl jackal
😭
opal nymph
How wack would heavy cruisers be if they are designated as screens
That also have heavy attack
patent thistle
that too, battlecruisers are generally less protected against heavy fire
battlecruisers are meant to choose engagements tactically usally irl and fast battleships are meant to give an active support role to strike forces
pearl jackal
i cant even defend the homeland tho
dusky burrow
battlecruisers are meant to choose engagements tactically usally irl and fast ba...
Yes pretty much
pearl jackal
logistically im doing well
patent thistle
battlecruisers usally got used for herassing trade on sea
pearl jackal
like, i would make more cas but we have 0 manpower
i think i should go up on conscription
patent thistle
while fast battleships got used for support roles for say a carrier strike group
dusky burrow
battlecruisers usally got used for herassing trade on sea
well their original use was killing the things harassing things at sea
patent thistle
well their original use was killing the things harassing things at sea
ye and avoid battleships at all cost
dusky burrow
Well they could perhaps survive / act as deterrrent against a battleship
But in general they are designed to do things like scouting in force or, as said, deterrence
patent thistle
while fast battleships got used for support roles for say a carrier strike group
which is why the games showing of the kongo class is very much incorrect
they wer not battlecruisers, they actively fought with carrier strike groups
opal nymph
What was their armor
Maybe they are designated battlecruisers because of the strength of their armor
dusky burrow
kongo were battlecruisers that were internally and externally reinforced so they were a lot like actual battleships
pearl jackal
I'd shorten the frontline and send the extra troops to defend southern france
i retreated back to amsterdam in the north
patent thistle
Maybe they are designated battlecruisers because of the strength of their armor
battlecruisers have the exact oposite concept, less armour but more firepower and speed
opal nymph
battlecruisers have the exact oposite concept, less armour but more firepower an...
I know
Until one shot hits your magazine
dusky burrow
Maybe they are designated battlecruisers because of the strength of their armor
Yeah they had 8 inches of belt armor
it's not a lot
They're literally WWI vintage units
opal nymph
Isnt that half your navies in hoi4
sudden thistle
whats good hoi4 general
sudden thistle
I wonder how thr new naval system will work
i think it was in the DD for it
dusky burrow
In any case battlecruisers are pretty suited towards carrier engagements because they have a lot of space for AA and the belt armor is less needed here since you're getting attacked from the air
battlecruisers just can't stand in the line of battle, but they have the guns to damage battleships
opal nymph
i think it was in the DD for it
Yeah, but that was a dev corner
sudden thistle
lemme read it again uno minuto
opal nymph
Not the latest up to date dev diary
sudden thistle
Yeah, but that was a dev corner
close enough
patent thistle
Yeah they had 8 inches of belt armor
ye like i said earlier battlecruisers sacrificed armour for speed and a little more firepower
sudden thistle
tomato tomato
dusky burrow
ye like i said earlier battlecruisers sacrificed armour for speed and a little m...
Yeah and that was also Kongo
opal nymph
If escort carriers dont need capitals to escort, but are still capped to 4 and have less hanger space, do you think they will be useful
patent thistle
Yeah and that was also Kongo
read a little, originally it was planned as a battlecruiser in mind but it was eventually refitted to a fast battleship
dusky burrow
I know
Well, originally it was
It was built as a battlecruiser back in pre-WWI times
sudden thistle
instead of manpower it will be "naval domiance"
and that number varies from its stats like speed
dusky burrow
instead of manpower it will be "naval domiance"
Don't both systems exist or no?
patent thistle
gotta lave the german reliance on soviet oil
opal nymph
So you need to patrol to gain naval dominance and strike force acts as a multiplier
opal nymph
I dont think we will sea lion any time soon
dusky burrow
gotta lave the german reliance on soviet oil
166 civs lmao
dusky burrow
I dont think we will sea lion any time soon
naval bombers and cruiser fleets will still pose a severe threat to the Royal Navy
nocturne cedar
why's chile in europe
patent thistle
166 civs lmao
its 1939 start date so yeah, expected that its lower then what i would have usually as the soviets
sudden thistle
i mean you usually build to around 120-140 anyways
patent thistle
i wanted pain and the paradox gods awared me the f***ing berlin moscow axis
dusky burrow
i see
patent thistle
i wanted pain and the paradox gods awared me the f***ing berlin moscow axis
which btw never happend to me ONCE in this game
patent thistle
i wanted pain and the paradox gods awared me the f***ing berlin moscow axis
and a UK which doesnt ruin shit with there garanties
sudden thistle
bro why is there so much phonk on my spotify
patent thistle
even tho i am in the german faction
patent thistle
THERE AINT NO WAY THEY ACCEPTED 😭
also btw that happend a bit earlier
opal nymph
naval bombers and cruiser fleets will still pose a severe threat to the Royal Na...
But will Germany be able to patrol as well with the RAF competing as well?
dusky burrow
But will Germany be able to patrol as well with the RAF competing as well?
I mean don't you have fighters
the RAF should not be competing in sea zones
opal nymph
Being forced to actually send ships in the channel for the strike force to vaporize might pose issues
patent thistle
also btw that happend a bit earlier
i just say free alaska for me
opal nymph
Or are we patrolling with capitals now
dusky burrow
just don't run out of fuel
pearl jackal
may 1939
update: sept 1939; germany's at war with the soviets now because of south america (communist mexico invaded central america and central american nations joined the axis then mexico joined comintern)
opal nymph
capitals only meta
Going to send the Bismarck and Prinz Eugen out on their own. Wish me luck!
Wdym it died to biplanes
patent thistle
Wdym it died to biplanes
should have waited for the soviet navy
sudden thistle
Wdym it died to biplanes
if they were stuck going in a circle
why didnt they turn off the engines
like a torpedo got lodged in the rudder right?
patent thistle
why didnt they turn off the engines
nah most of it was because the captain was an idiot
dusky burrow
why didnt they turn off the engines
that can take hours
also they needed to get home, but that aside
sudden thistle
nah most of it was because the captain was an idiot
not like the german ww2 admiral has much naval experience
sudden thistle
also they needed to get home, but that aside
good point
how tf will it take hours for it to turn off
dusky burrow
steam
patent thistle
not like the german ww2 admiral has much naval experience
still, what did he expect what would happen if he refuses to listen to commands of radio silence
dusky burrow
a steam engine of that size is a beast to handle
patent thistle
PRETTY CLOSE to the british isles
sudden thistle
ohhhhh
lowkey thought it was gasonline/diesel
if that biplane wasnt there sealion would have happened 🗣️
patent thistle
if that biplane wasnt there sealion would have happened 🗣️
nope even if the bismarck didnt sink already after that, you have to remember that the british were being cry babies and would litterally search everywhere to find that one ship because it sank the hood
i personally think it would go into a similar situation that the tirpitz was in
dusky burrow
if that ship could kill the hood it could decimate british commerce
so it was worth it
sudden thistle
wasnt the hood a ww1 battlecruiser
patent thistle
if that ship could kill the hood it could decimate british commerce
the hood was an outdated design
dusky burrow
wasnt the hood a ww1 battlecruiser
yes but a better armored and armed one than kongo
patent thistle
by that point
dusky burrow
by that point
yeah but it is more powerful than a convoy ship
patent thistle
yeah but it is more powerful than a convoy ship
still if the bismarck got away they would still agressively hunt it down
dusky burrow
the scharnhorst class battleships were stopped by an even more outdated battlecruiser
patent thistle
i hope that supremacy spam is killed
yes
i want to actually battle the AI fleet before i get naval supremacy
dusky burrow
night night
regal berry
any games
umbral agate
why do people make medium flame tanks instead of heavy flames if they have the industry for them
silk fern
why do people make medium flame tanks instead of heavy flames if they have the i...
cuz flames r badass
slim nexus
Rate my map painting of europe
dry briar
Hoi 4 ,400 years later....
viscid hazel
opal nymph
Hoi 4 ,400 years later....
When did humans learn to survive on a moon with liquid methane
dry briar
When did humans learn to survive on a moon with liquid methane
They developed technologies that allow us to partially terraform planets in harsh conditions
opal nymph
They developed technologies that allow us to partially terraform planets in hars...
How did we warm up Titan
To the point we can survive
dry briar
When did humans learn to survive on a moon with liquid methane
And World War 9, Russia trying restore their lands
opal nymph
Holy crap
How did we survive the other 9
I mean 7
World War 3 is the war where humanity vaporizes itself
And send us back to the stone age
dusky burrow
And World War 9, Russia trying restore their lands
russia is scerwed
as ever
by the end of this there will be 500 russians
opal nymph
Im trying to figure out how there was a world war 4
And 5-7
People when they forget about Mutually Assured Destruction
dry briar
russia is scerwed
valid prairie
is te himmler ss reichsleiter path good?
silk fern
is te himmler ss reichsleiter path good?
Yes
opal nymph
is te himmler ss reichsleiter path good?
You get some generals or buff your spy agency
But you also hire himmler
valid prairie
what about the units
dusky burrow
Maybe I shouldn't have said that
valid prairie
are they good
opal nymph
what about the units
Mediocre
silk fern
can u change reichsleiter after u pick them all?
Yes
valid prairie
cuz i think ill do goebells until im full fascist then go himmler
opal nymph
You only have 3 at a time
valid prairie
type shit
opal nymph
I do Totd, Hess, Speer and call it a day
Who needs propaganda
Who needs mid divisions
silk fern
Arent Todt and Speer mutually exlusive?
mossy blade
you can get both
opal nymph
Only their bottom thing
opal nymph
I just go Speer to the bottom
opal nymph
no goebells
So why should I get him
brittle cypress
So why should I get him
stability and war support and all that and you can literally switch todt for speer through event
brittle cypress
100% stab is just that good yes
dusky burrow
Maybe I shouldn't have said that
There's an obligatory Taiwan is a part of China/Taiwan should be independent argument with my family every week since my parents are from China and can't fathom a world where Taiwan would be independent
mossy blade
do yall know how to find discord hosts
ive been waiting for like an hour with nohting
opal nymph
stability and war support and all that and you can literally switch todt for spe...
But 2 industry buffs funny
1 industry buff and 1 company okay I suppose
brittle cypress
but todt does nothing
brittle cypress
i mean idk i dont actually remember
silk fern
Todt has some solid construction bonuses early game
brittle cypress
but if he was worth keeping people would keep him
opal nymph
I do, and in my singleplayer game where you always win, it works
opal nymph
Oh snap
You might be onto something
So Germany starts at like 60 stab right
And 100 stab gives you -10% consumer goods?
Factor
inner rose
What country should I play to win in my first multiplayer game with my friends
dusky burrow
what are your friends playing
deep solstice
we landed in SOUTHERN. italy about a month ago btw
idk WHAT happened to their armies
but they are SLACKING bro
UNGUARDED CAPITAL AND SPLIT 😭
LOL
they just LET this happen
valid prairie
how many casualties is to be expected after taking out france and poland?
tribal peak
Guys I think I am beating the allied airforce
fickle thicket
they just LET this happen
what mod
deep solstice
probably just the vintage map mod
fickle thicket
k
winged field
9inf/ 1 spaa - (if you dont have dlc to make spaa just put medium tank with most armor
Or so I dont get crucified for 20w you can do 8inf/1 spaa
fair horizon
go AWAY JAPAN
make sure they dont naval invade you
dusky burrow
make sure they dont naval invade you
true
deep solstice
im ngl they are whooping my ass
12 divisions vs like 100
its not going well lmfao
kind of a useless colony anyways
dusky burrow
It has so much rubber and tungsten
of course france proper takes prioirity
but you should try to keep the route open
deep solstice
honestly I can mobilize more divisions over there
this is a smashdown of the axis powers
its honestly funny
if italy capitulates
then greece shouldnt be an issue
they can hold themselves
ive gotta go save that colony 😭
OH WAIT
THEY HAD TO SACRIFICE THEIR BORDER WITH CHINA
dusky burrow
this is a smashdown of the axis powers
Rush Milan that would do it
deep solstice
the entire guangxi was gone a second ago
and china has reclaimed like 8 states
perhaps all is not lost
jade juniper
It feels justified given I am from an ex commie country
deep solstice
is it possible to starve out an enemy division?
they are holding me off super well but literally have no supply
my allies just genuinely fighting a war for me:
marsh ravine
is it possible to starve out an enemy division?
No
deep solstice
dang
marsh ravine
Unless they strength delete themselves while cut off from supply attacking you ig
deep solstice
would be convenient
marsh ravine
Or build a supply hub
Just do this lmao
deep solstice
Unless they strength delete themselves while cut off from supply attacking you i...
desperate germans surely wouldnt do that
marsh ravine
Push from Kuwait?
Or this
deep solstice
Push from Kuwait?
im literally just not fighting in the iraq war tbh
deep solstice
I needed my guys in japan
well
im france
so
the entire french axis border
and italy
and japan
im a little spread out
😭
marsh ravine
If u dojt have supply build it
But you should definitely be able
To push Germany
Theres no river u have to cross yet go take saarbrucken
deep solstice
I just realized I had the entire italian capital + 50 divisions encircled
anyways
thanks italy
now I have like 50 extra divisions to launch at iraq
keeping 72 divisions to push up into germany
22 to japan
and the other 6 to iraq
also this happened
yugoslavia is back
so all the work is now on the balkans and germany itself
cedar lance
hello yalls
devout trench
dont mess with chiang
shell storm
does anyone have a mod recomendation that add a lot of additional feature/overhaul
marsh ravine
does anyone have a mod recomendation that add a lot of additional feature/overha...
Bice
devout trench
does anyone have a mod recomendation that add a lot of additional feature/overha...
RT56, Kaiserredux/Kaiserreich, The fire rises, Old world Blues
dreamy moat
cedar lance
im gonna make new REAL LIFE templates using the vanilla and dlc units
regal heron
does this mean i can attack everyone?
devout trench
does this mean i can attack everyone?
no
US is probably most defensive tree in the game
0 war goals on anyone
it just gives you buffs on fighting them
regal heron
0 war goals on anyone
bru
slim nexus
does this mean i can attack everyone?
Therese are if I remember correctly , focus that increases your stats while fighting countries.
slim nexus
it just gives you buffs on fighting them
Yea my bad, he said it before me.
winged field
Waiting for Spain to get autonomy so I can get 100% conquest is another lvl of pain
marsh ravine
Waiting for Spain to get autonomy so I can get 100% conquest is another lvl of p...
Sned convoys to them
It lowers autonomy
regal heron
does mass charge is good for masss mob?
winged field
It lowers autonomy
I want to increase it tho
marsh ravine
I want to increase it tho
Oh
regal heron
If defend no
ok
marsh ravine
Trade with them
winged field
Trade with them
Doing that already. It's just gonna take some time
regal heron
I want to increase it tho
why would you puppet them if you dont want it?
winged field
Fortunately I got kingdom of Hawaii to attack so I can request land lease to help with it
winged field
why would you puppet them if you dont want it?
Didn't think about it in 1942
regal heron
Didn't think about it in 1942
bru
winged field
Now I pay the prize
slim nexus
Is okay, everyone makes mistakes.
On my case I declare war on the Allies in 1940 and me and Japan, while hating on each other, are fighting the USSR and the USA.
Germany capitulated now.
heavy vigil
On my case I declare war on the Allies in 1940 and me and Japan, while hating on...
as who
nocturne cedar
could this be the end of the allies?
regal heron
how they can afford this with 17% contribution bru
tropic lance
what's the best path to play as luxemburg in rt56
cedar lance
hello yalls
cedar lance
hello
inner rose
Thanks
It’s tough 😢
I was playing historical and communist Denmark invaded me through facist Belgium
marsh ravine
I was playing historical and communist Denmark invaded me through facist Belgiu...
You went ahist?
Thats tje only reason Denmark can change
marsh ravine
Ik Belgium has funni spirit so might accidentally change
tropic lance
but oh am i gonna abuse this
marsh ravine
I have the power of weird multiplayer mods
Discardian?
tropic lance
discardian.
marsh ravine
Based
heavy vigil
sheeepp
heavy vigil
I couldn't' even push properly on India..
do you have allies
like useful ones
so you can license techs
fair horizon
paradox you should give australia a focus for an 80% battleship since they had one during ww1
pls
also one for nz
so i can steal that one
hot patrol
what really concerns me about the dlc is wether or not the other warlord states will get generic focus trees or something personalised
coarse juniper
Hey, my laptop is having trouble running smoothly after 43. Do you recommend any mods to optimize the game? Maybe some speed limiters. I'm looking for working ones.
bronze mango
what really concerns me about the dlc is wether or not the other warlord states ...
It has been confirmed that in addition to an update warlord regional trees they will also have their own original mini trees
slim nexus
sheeepp
At this point it is not even needed, my only allies are the United Fronts, and "Japan" Neutral .
I have already unlocked all 4 research Slots. Is 1944 .
hot patrol
It has been confirmed that in addition to an update warlord regional trees they ...
ayy
nice
might make a video speedrunning chinese unification as each
do you know if there will be a korea releasable with a focus tree
potentially
bronze mango
do you know if there will be a korea releasable with a focus tree
No Korea will not have a focus tree, however they will have leader portraits
limber jackal
does anyone have a navy tutorial i could watch that includes also designing ships and stuff
heavy vigil
At this point it is not even needed, my only allies are the United Fronts, and "...
you do need it for stuff like air tech
cedar lance
hello yalls
valid prairie
DO I GIVE MY REICHSKOMMISARIATS LAND IN THE PEACE DEAL?
limber jackal
no
or if you want to sure
depends if you wanna garrison in exchange for better industry
or abit worse industry
but less garrison
valid prairie
alr thanks
limber jackal
(reichkomirsats will still give you industry but not all of it since they're a puppet)
cedar lance
im bored
ripe slate
Good morning bored
cedar lance
wassup mari
ill use these current vanilla and dlc units
to make Real life templates
limber jackal
why is submarine spam considered so good in singleplayer?
cedar lance
why is submarine spam considered so good in singleplayer?
well so yalls can take the enemies of your nation DOWN TOWN
XD
nocturne cedar
what should i do here..? The americans are pushing fast. Help.
heavy vigil
what should i do here..? The americans are pushing fast. Help.
send more units?
concentrated attacks where theyre weak
nocturne cedar
concentrated attacks where theyre weak
i cannot attack
the whole front got demolished by small counter attacks on certain cities
im retreating
nocturne cedar
send more units?
i tried that but it took too long
winged field
https://tenor.com/view/top-gun-top-gun-maverick-salute-tom-cruise-military-gif-2...
Now to do world conquest as Luxemburg
nocturne cedar
Now to do world conquest as Luxemburg
youve suffered too much
rest now
also, @winged field
can you help me with tuis
this
winged field
can you help me with tuis
sure wassup?
winged field
holly garrison divisions
winged field
whats your template?
nocturne cedar
whats your template?
the casual
9 blocks of inf
etc
shit hit the fan because the garrison divisions in south america went full on suicide with the american units
winged field
9 blocks of inf
you might want to invest in actual offensice template,
nocturne cedar
you might want to invest in actual offensice template,
yes, 5 mountaineers
winged field
And you will only need like 2-3 armies to do conquest
nocturne cedar
And you will only need like 2-3 armies to do conquest
we were coose to dominate the US actually
they were split
winged field
yes, 5 mountaineers
I mean if you make them 36w sure
winged field
try to deal with florida asap
nocturne cedar
try to deal with florida asap
ive sent some divs to hold it
cannot push there either
winged field
ive sent some divs to hold it
how many armies you got there? Cuz I dont see a frontline line there
nocturne cedar
how many armies you got there? Cuz I dont see a frontline line there
im trying to retreat the units. There’s a backline if you zoom in.
and over 50+
winged field
rip
winged field
ive sent some divs to hold it
Fill uo your main army group with units from the garrison armies
nocturne cedar
Fill uo your main army group with units from the garrison armies
the garruson armies are not meant for combat
winged field
you are lacking to many
nocturne cedar
they have 6 infantry blocks
if i retreat from europe, everything will collapse
im thinking of retreating to mexico and preoaribg a counter attack there
winged field
they have 6 infantry blocks
they will fill up the fronline at least
if nothing else
nocturne cedar
as the americas are too large for my current army
limber jackal
why cant i make 2 types of destroyers at once
like
if i design a model
and then make a new model
the new model replaces the old one
eternal palm
the new model replaces the old one
Recommission the design
limber jackal
i do click save as new
limber jackal
keep the old version
that makes sense ig
just weird how i cant have both designs at once
nocturne cedar
just weird how i cant have both designs at once
true
limber jackal
even if i click save as new
i dont think the british used 1 type of destroyer and thats it
eternal palm
just weird how i cant have both designs at once
U can though?
limber jackal
well maybe you can but im not smart enough to figure it out
i guess
i press save as new, template doesnt get decommissioned or anything at all it just disappears and replaced by the new one
meh i guess im doing smth wrong
winged field
why cant i make 2 types of destroyers at once
Change the icon at the top and you can
Like if you have a shield icon you change to something else
limber jackal
wow that seriously worked
tysm
bit absurd in my opinion
all it took was a bloody icon
but tysm for the help
ripe slate
wassup mari
Hello, prolly gonna go hike and then eat cereal
cedar lance
alr
tiny iris
When I invade Poland as Germany, I can never get air superiority.
limber jackal
train your planes and make better plane designs if you have by blood alone
winged field
When I invade Poland as Germany, I can never get air superiority.
When do you invade?
Cuz if you invade in like 1937 even the planes you got will get you air superiority
tiny iris
When do you invade?
Usually ´38
But I don't justify manually
I wait for Danzig or War
winged field
Usually ´38
Then just make sure they are trained
limber jackal
i do recommend invading on late 1939 like germany did irl
winged field
But I don't justify manually
You should immediately when you get 50p. Allies won't join
limber jackal
you have a WAY better industry cause of your focuses
winged field
Not necessary
limber jackal
or you can just justify on useless nations then justify on poland and allies dont get into a war with you
winged field
You can focus on industry after Poland in early 1937
limber jackal
ive never seen ai poland on a historical actually go a strong path
istg every time its either communist or just the regular path
tiny iris
But what's the fun in that? France capitulates as soon as you drive to Paris with a motorised div. The UK will just put all their troops in Africa and you can easily invade them.
winged field
I mean if you are going historical then sure thing.
limber jackal
But what's the fun in that? France capitulates as soon as you drive to Paris wit...
thats literally every germany game before 1941
so if its boring jut
just
invade way later
or dont play germany
or get sheeps mod
coral gorge
will it all turn white or turn green?
eternal palm
<:KEKW:751015759257272391> will it all turn white or turn green?
Hwite
limber jackal
<:KEKW:751015759257272391> will it all turn white or turn green?
black
eternal palm
Red?
limber jackal
pinkish-red
heavy vigil
<:KEKW:751015759257272391> will it all turn white or turn green?
i vote greek faction
coral gorge
Greece has indeed joined the war
daring tundra
You should immediately when you get 50p. Allies won't join
I fail to see the fun of it
What's the fun if not having stuff as bad as Germany had historically?
misty fossil
says the austrian emperor
daring tundra
What's the fun if not having stuff as bad as Germany had historically?
Your economy is an illusion, your army is over engineered, your allies are morons...
You are not exactly an underdog but in the long term the allies have the upper hand
The fun is in reversing that
I want to play one day a Germany game where I attempt to play "historically" (as in not capping Britain until killing Russia), but playing with a battleship navy
It won't most likely happen until Christmas at least, though
slim nexus
you do need it for stuff like air tech
I do not have the Air Dlc. only the frees one and the Neavy one.
Still my entire air force was reduced to pieces.
I'll try to save this up, and if I do not manage I am gonna send this to BitterSteel and see him suffer.
fair horizon
I want to play one day a Germany game where I attempt to play "historically" (as...
battleships ❤️
warped crown
You guys think Italy's got this?
they did not
contain your excitement, romaboos
italy is my puppet, btw
grizzled arrow
Hey im doing a research paper on Hoi 4 i need someone to help me abit since i dont got like 5000 hours into this game
I js need sum few questions thas all
warped crown
why are you doing that?
deft crystal
HOI3 makes you want to commit sepuku
Really?
grizzled arrow
why are you doing that?
no clue
deft crystal
Because I have no clue whatsoever what's going on in HOI4
I see a bunch of tabs and a bunch of things
I have no clue what to do
grizzled arrow
sorry might be awkward who r u taalking too lol
warped crown
HOI3 is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more complicated
deft crystal
HOI3 is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more complicated
Alright
warped crown
start with watching some youtubers. that's what I did. also, you don't have to master the game before you start
it's a paradox game.
deft crystal
start with watching some youtubers. that's what I did. also, you don't have to m...
Alright
heavy vigil
whats a country to play for no research
zinc light
I've never seen anyone else do this path lmao
heavy vigil
Still my entire air force was reduced to pieces.
research ahead of time and produce more of the new plane
zinc light
ah
heavy vigil
if fully upgraded
heavy vigil
(youre right, I'm just delusional)
you have to pay me back for giving me a country to play in a game where no one can do research
heavy vigil
no research MP?
SP
heavy vigil
that sounds awful
its not that bad
zinc light
like, you just disable techf or everyone?
heavy vigil
licensing exists anyway
not disabled it just takes forever to research
like a really long time
drowsy arrow
What mod is this bruh
heavy vigil
What mod is this bruh
tiny iris
Hey im doing a research paper on Hoi 4 i need someone to help me abit since i do...
I have 400 hours and I am pretty good at it.
SP anyways.
grizzled arrow
I have 400 hours and I am pretty good at it.
dms?
heavy vigil
I js need sum few questions thas all
grizzled arrow
There is no reason you can't ask questions here.
oh mb
tiny iris
<#589311099674034176>
Casey, I removed the HOI tag and replaced it with an ants one. I do this because I get bullied in this server. So take this as an act of protest.
I am sure you care a lot...
fair horizon
chat why do i always want to play britian/?
limber jackal
Hey im doing a research paper on Hoi 4 i need someone to help me abit since i do...
research paper on hoi4?? why?
bit curious
grizzled arrow
research paper on hoi4?? why?
mandatory im doing IB
heavy vigil
Casey, I removed the HOI tag and replaced it with an ants one. I do this because...
if you want to report someone for harassment/bullying you should dm @grizzled delta and it will open a ticket for the mods to look into
please do provide proof of claims
tiny iris
if you want to report someone for harassment/bullying you should dm <@8184296477...
Ok, thanks:)
Did anyone know that Solenopsis is the scientific name for the fire ant?
tiny iris
but thats pretty interesting
I liked the name so I took it.
fair horizon
minnesota chad
fair horizon
Did anyone know that Solenopsis is the scientific name for the fire ant?
antscanada is that you?
tiny iris
antscanada is that you?
No, but I used to love watching his videos.
limber jackal
minnesota chad
im bulgarian but i decided to edit whatever random wiki article i got on random wiki page website and got that one so i decided to spend 2 hours researching about this lake 😭
daring tundra
I js need sum few questions thas all
What do you need to know?
limber jackal
if you cant tell urm i didnt find much
daring tundra
Not a pro but I may be of help
grizzled arrow
What do you need to know?
i needa know how the game calculates construction speed like the actual equation
grizzled arrow
is it not in the game files?
daring tundra
i needa know how the game calculates construction speed like the actual equation
iirc, there is a unit called IC
daring tundra
iirc, there is a unit called IC
That has a base rate of 5 per day
limber jackal
itd be easily found in the wiki
grizzled arrow
itd be easily found in the wiki
idk the game like wel enough i only got like 70 hours in the game lol the terminologies are kinda hard to identify
daring tundra
That has a base rate of 5 per day
And then the construction speed modifiers add or substract a percentage
limber jackal
ok ill try to find it
grizzled arrow
That has a base rate of 5 per day
so do i just make up my own equation or sm
limber jackal
and explain it
grizzled arrow
it doesnt seem that hard
like civs cap at 12 generally then i find the infrastruction variable then the economy civ tax variable
daring tundra
so do i just make up my own equation or sm
If you have tech 5 for construction, which gives in total +50%, you get a 7,5 IC per factory per day
grizzled arrow
If you have tech 5 for construction, which gives in total +50%, you get a 7,5 IC...
ok
daring tundra
If you have tech 5 for construction, which gives in total +50%, you get a 7,5 IC...
The modifiers stack additively, not multiplicatively
grizzled arrow
doesnt the infrastruction multiplier stack with all bonuses
grizzled arrow
so its a differential equation?
fair horizon
im bulgarian but i decided to edit whatever random wiki article i got on random ...
would have been cooler if you were minnesotan 😔
grizzled arrow
dawg thats abit complicated ill try to use it for my paper
limber jackal
not derivative
those
arent those 2 different things
isnt derivation like discovering a formula
grizzled arrow
huh
limber jackal
and a derivative finding the slope of a function at a given point
grizzled arrow
derivative is just the change or something
limber jackal
yes
grizzled arrow
of*
grizzled arrow
ohh like how you derive something
grizzled arrow
yeye
daring tundra
CPD calculates the number of civs per day per factory
grizzled arrow
CPD calculates the number of civs per day per factory
is that all i need to know
limber jackal
also does it have to be on hoi4
like
howd you decide to make a research paper on hoi4
its
grizzled arrow
im tryna model interdependent systems and like finding the most optimal path to build military factories or something
limber jackal
im tryna model interdependent systems and like finding the most optimal path to ...
oh
i tried that once
it didnt go too well
for me atleast
grizzled arrow
yoo can i see
limber jackal
well
i started to freak out
after about an hour
when i had to consider boosts
infrastructure
grizzled arrow
its ok if you dont wanna show me
grizzled arrow
when i had to consider boosts
dang
grizzled arrow
what boosts
limber jackal
may you be a better mathematician than me
grizzled arrow
pretty sure there are stuff that like give boosts
civs get taxxed right
grizzled arrow
like so far i need to factor
limber jackal
oh wait
grizzled arrow
civilian economy
like
when u build 1 civ its tehcnially like 0.7 civs or something
limber jackal
i could ask my teacher (quantum physics physician btw) to maybe like figure out smth with me
grizzled arrow
idk the things too much rn
limber jackal
i could rephrase the question to him
so it doesnt seem like im doing this just so im trying to calculate the optimal way to play
grizzled arrow
wait so you also did a research paper on this?
grizzled arrow
i could rephrase the question to him
kindly pls
grizzled arrow
ohh
limber jackal
ive got lessons
grizzled arrow
you got his uhm email?
grizzled arrow
does he play hoi4?
grizzled arrow
idk if its abit too personal mb if im coming off that way
grizzled arrow
dang
limber jackal
only game he plays i think was baldurs gate 3
grizzled arrow
dang you know him well enough to tell you that
grizzled arrow
ohhh
grizzled arrow
ok
limber jackal
singlehandedly why i like maths
grizzled arrow
what r u learning
grizzled arrow
yeah
limber jackal
very surface of linear algebra, complex numbers, calculus 1 (mostly derivatives tho, havent reached integration), olympiad questions since i do still have to prepare for exams and stuff, sometimes but rarily probabilities and trigonometry
limber jackal
thx
grizzled arrow
i just finished calculus
limber jackal
o
grizzled arrow
im on complex numbers
limber jackal
wait
grizzled arrow
?
limber jackal
so you mean to tell me you went through calculus 1 - 3 without complex numbers?
how
me neither im bulgarian
grizzled arrow
idk our teacher decided to do the hard chapters first then the easy ones
grizzled arrow
like rn im doing the modulus/arguments and trig form and allat with cis and stuff
grizzled arrow
how tho, complex numbers are a part of calculus
for calculus i just did derivatives integratles ordinary differential equations kinematics and idk maybe more
forgot
limber jackal
eulers identity states that e^(i*Pi) + 1 = 0
wha
for polar integration ofc
you dont only integrate in cartesian coordinates my guy
grizzled arrow
dawg i never heard of that
limber jackal
i guess you went through calc 1, thought you were done with calculus and are now on complex numbers but will come back when you learn them
grizzled arrow
eulers identity states that e^(i*Pi) + 1 = 0
pi as in theta?
grizzled arrow
wasnt it e^itheta
limber jackal
no
grizzled arrow
oh ok
grizzled arrow
yeah thats the other form
limber jackal
thats eulers formula
grizzled arrow
and the algebraic form and stuff
limber jackal
i once had to prove stuff like (sin(a+b) = i already forgot what by complex analysis
i had to use the complex definition of sin
and like
put a+b as theta
iin that definition
and discover how much it should be equal to
grizzled arrow
i once had to prove stuff like (sin(a+b) = i already forgot what by complex anal...
isnt that like something like (sin(a)sin(b) + cos(a)cos(b) or the other identity idk them by heart
limber jackal
integration with complex numbers is way harder
yeah its smth like that
but i had to prove it via using the complex definition of the sin
grizzled arrow
then maybe u could try integration by parts
fair horizon
cooked
limber jackal
and like
grizzled arrow
wdym a+b as a power
grizzled arrow
yeah gl
limber jackal
you have to just plug in a+b as z (the power)
no no its quite easy ive done it like 5 times
cause i dont have the best memory
grizzled arrow
ohh so then its like e^ia times e^ib?
grizzled arrow
ok then now what
limber jackal
for both e^ia and e^ib
and
then you have to shortern terms that shortern
and in the end
youll be left with the answer
grizzled arrow
also z is a complex number?
limber jackal
you COULD define it as a complex number to like expand sin into the complex realm
but why would one do that
grizzled arrow
i have no clue
limber jackal
ye exactly
grizzled arrow
how would sin even function as a complex
grizzled arrow
i was thinking like using polar coord translated to sin
grizzled arrow
ngl u just have cis for that
limber jackal
as i
and the other one is the real part
i guess?
thats how id plot sin
as a complex function
misty fossil
hoi4 general
looks inside
adv calculus
limber jackal
🔥
grizzled arrow
mb gang
limber jackal
how so
grizzled arrow
that kid gonna know basica algebra at the age of 4
bro i spent 5 years on arithmetic
grizzled arrow
i only started learning x and ys on middle school
grizzled arrow
with my maths teacher
damn
grizzled arrow
bro imm say that math is a language
limber jackal
it is
grizzled arrow
u cant correlate that with intelligence
limber jackal
its the language of the universe
grizzled arrow
like be fr
tepid crown
Math kinda easy ngl
limber jackal
oh yeah
go to calculus 3
and prove the riemann hypothesis after
lets see how you do 🔥
grizzled arrow
imagine
tepid crown
go to calculus 3
Got an A in that class