hoi4-general

[sharp sierra]

yea i still havent played sheeps

intimidates me

[grizzled zenith]

I don't like that, don't give the AI free stuff just make the AI good

[sharp sierra]

idk if thats what i want to play the game for either

[grizzled zenith]

True

I'll try it later

[sharp sierra]

but it does kind of make singleplayer vanilla accomplishments meaningless to me

[grizzled zenith]

Sadly I can't use it with mods

[candid pecan]

how can i tell when the justification ends

[grizzled zenith]

You can't so just be prepared

[candid pecan]

ok

[grizzled zenith]

Or you can count 70 days or something

[grizzled zenith]

Because it's a German focus to demand the Sudetenland

[grizzled zenith]

Btw iirc Stalin was so mad about the encirclement of Kyiv he almost left his position

But he was talked out of that

[grizzled yarrow]

NAW

[grizzled zenith]

I think Khrushchev wrote something about that

But I don't remember where

[grizzled zenith]

Also bro loves corn way too much lmao

[grizzled yarrow]

Hm

[ornate marlin]

why have i never seen thesse MIOs before

are they new?

[grizzled yarrow]

I havent seen the heavy tank designer thi

The medium one i use every game

So idk

[ornate marlin]

huh

weird

i never ever noticed it before lol

[grizzled yarrow]

Sob

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/blee-raspberries吐舌頭stick-out-tongue-gif-11966212

[candid pecan]

how can u see how strong ur army is compared to another army

yo guys if you do a focus to take land and they decline

can u just load the save over and over until they accept

[broken sky]

dont think so

never really worked on me

at least

[fickle cove]

honestly i have a question that's kind of like this one

guys how do i get czechoslovakia to refuse handing over sudetenland

[candid pecan]

why do u need to do that lol

[fickle cove]

bc i wanna play as eva

as germany

[candid pecan]

idk

bro

its 1939

and germany still hasnt invaded me

and yugoslavia still hasnt stop being guaranteed

@grizzled zenith

[toxic sapphire]

guys why wont it let me assign divisions to naval inv i wanna assign 2 each to 5 naval invasion lines

[grizzled zenith]

Does it have a war goal on Czechoslovakia?

[candid pecan]

how can i know

wait yeah

it does

[toxic sapphire]

shows this when I hold ctrl

[grizzled zenith]

It might stop being guarantees in 1939 I don't remember when it happens

[safe wing]

Rome total war is basically two games in one

[candid pecan]

it is 1939

[safe wing]

Its the paradox map games with the rts battles

[grizzled zenith]

Then just be careful

[grizzled zenith]

Maybe like mid 39

[toxic sapphire]

bro why yall ain't helpin

[candid pecan]

bro

i need to invade yugoslavia and romania

[ornate marlin]

is this what gives me trickster trait

[toxic sapphire]

why cant i assign them to a different order

[grizzled zenith]

You might need to research the naval invasions

[candid pecan]

do u have boats in that region

[toxic sapphire]

it litteraly assigned all of them to 1 of the orders

[grizzled zenith]

Keep 1 army on the border with Germany and use the rest of the army to invade Yugoslavia when it loses guarantees

[grizzled zenith]

Oh, then you run out of naval invasions

It's like 10 max with the first research

[toxic sapphire]

no

I have 10 units

[candid pecan]

ok

[toxic sapphire]

I want to assign 2 to all 5 lines

[broken sky]

8, I think?

[candid pecan]

but then ill only have like

[toxic sapphire]

but it instantly assigned them to 1

[candid pecan]

44 divs on yugoslavia

[toxic sapphire]

and wont let me reassign

[grizzled zenith]

No it's 10

[grizzled zenith]

Oh

Basically what you do is remove all naval invasions orders and create 1 for each division

Basically choose just 1 div and then do an order

[broken sky]

He was so mad at Budyonny

😭 He got the Stalinist equivalent of a slap on the wrist

[grizzled zenith]

Then cancel the create naval other thing and do that for the next

[toxic sapphire]

God im tired of explaining the conditions of my sht pc

[candid pecan]

yooooo

look at my cook

ery

[broken sky]

Nice

[sharp sierra]

thats wack

[candid pecan]

thx

[broken sky]

You can also eat up Yugoslavia and Romania, fun tip

[candid pecan]

ik but germany might declare on me

soon

[grizzled zenith]

Evil Budyonny be like: hmmm, what if I adapt to the today's military technologies?

[broken sky]

Germany WILL declare on you

You have Czechoslovakia

[candid pecan]

but they havent yet

its march 1939

they better hurry up

[grizzled zenith]

Do you have a non aggression pact?

With Germany

[candid pecan]

yes

[broken sky]

He did, though

[grizzled zenith]

Then it won't unless it breaks it

[candid pecan]

in 15 days i can revoke it

[broken sky]

He was the one who pushed for the mechanization and the KMG Soviet units

[candid pecan]

should i break it

[grizzled zenith]

Did he?

[candid pecan]

to beat them before italy joins

[grizzled zenith]

Ok

I'm probably misremembering that

[broken sky]

Sometimes it'll stall

[grizzled zenith]

I thought he was for the cavalry till the end

[broken sky]

Like this one run of mine

[broken sky]

Myth

basically

[grizzled zenith]

Ok

[fickle cove]

how do you play as queen elizabeth when you play as uk

[broken sky]

Although Bulgaria will join the Axis if you expand to Romania and Yugoslavia (automatic)

[toxic sapphire]

goat

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-sheep-lamb-of-god-gif-25939458

[broken sky]

YT guide

[candid pecan]

BRO

ITALY JUST JOINED THE WAR

[fickle cove]

fair enough

seriously though how do i get czechoslovakia or austria or lithuania to decline the ultimatums i give them as germany so i can just play as eva braun

[broken sky]

Pact of Steel😞

[broken sky]

delete your army

have zero presence whatsoever

[candid pecan]

they cant invade me tho

[fickle cove]

ok but then i can't do the focuses in the first place

[broken sky]

Yeah, Cisleithania border

[fickle cove]

in order to even do the focuses, you need 500k or 750k troops on the field

[broken sky]

Guide in Reddit

[candid pecan]

what do i do

im getting pushed back

lol bro i caught them lacking

[gritty karma]

gave shot and somehow Communist Kongo is far more fun to play than Ethiopia wtf, i just got half of Africa before 1941 stole Angola, stole british land, stole from france stole from vichy and peace out with PP as African Union

[candid pecan]

BRO IM GETTING COOKED

SOMEONE HELP

[gritty karma]

#ask-for-help-here

[quiet vessel]

i think somebody should play hoi4 and wear a shock collar and everytime a battle is lost it shocks them

[candid pecan]

@grizzled zenith

is there any way i can give germany sudetenland after i clicked no

i just tried to go to war and i got absolutely cooked

[grizzled zenith]

No

Only restart

Or fight

[summer stag]

well..... I am only have ALternative History of Germany Monarhy . but Great new war started

[patent thistle]

this china game is dragging on to hell and back man 😭

because the game is running at like 10 FPS rn-

[candid pecan]

can u help me

cuz im not good at fighting

that much

last time i cooked them but then got destroyed after

[bright arrow]

Make forts in Austria

[placid rapids]

Hello

[bright arrow]

And just let Germany pummel itself

Also make sure the forts in Czech are well maintained

Make only fighters, put them on interception

[candid pecan]

wait

yo

[bright arrow]

I found the operational integraty thing to be great for interception

Your first problem is you are attacking

[candid pecan]

it says "inferior enemy"

lets gho

[bright arrow]

When you should not

[candid pecan]

wait

are u talking to me

[gloomy charm]

Idk how im gon invade uk as german i cant get naval supremacy and i never get 70% air superiority on both places at once😭

Anybody got any advice?

[fair horizon]

plan z calling bud

pick up the phone

[candid pecan]

oh no

[bright arrow]

Yes i was talking to you

You should have listened

[patent thistle]

a little overkill for some indonesian ships?

(i am making the soviets suffer)

[candid pecan]

bro

what am i meant to do

if i cant attack

[fair horizon]

defend

until the enemy wears itself down

[candid pecan]

ok

[bright arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-squarepants-wow-mindblown-gif-13169052

[void canyon]

playing seelow heights and im holding this is this good

[bright arrow]

Why are the soviets not in the United Nations?

[candid pecan]

wont they win at some point

[void canyon]

ask the modmaker

[void canyon]

there's a million green bubbles

theyre killing themselves

[fair horizon]

also dont use the battleplan to attack, it forces all your troops to attack usually and then you have nothing entrenched

[candid pecan]

ok

[bright arrow]

Germany does this very funny thing

[patent thistle]

hello again

[bright arrow]

Called commit self die by war declaration

[fair horizon]

you need guns as well

[candid pecan]

bro im still losing badly

[fair horizon]

hello i was going to comment on your rt56 game

[candid pecan]

yeah i just lost that province

[fair horizon]

no guns

[grizzled zenith]

Rely on Czech forts in the Sudetenland

[patent thistle]

all are on light cruisers

[fair horizon]

look at how under-equipped they are

[bright arrow]

This is where defending on a fort line like i said would have helped

[grizzled zenith]

Don't push, defend

[bright arrow]

I assume your airforce is also non existent

And that Austria has no forts

[grizzled zenith]

Also you should research anti air and put it into all your divisions as you probably can't create airforce right now

[candid pecan]

austria isnt in the war

[grizzled zenith]

And build at least level 5 forst in the border terrirories

[bright arrow]

Dont call them in then

[candid pecan]

yeah cuz im hungary

[candid pecan]

yeah i didnt

[bright arrow]

They'll get bent over harder than a wooden pencil

[candid pecan]

what fort line do i defend on other than czechs

when do i know is the right time to attack

[bright arrow]

You could have made fighters, and used interception, you can import rubber from the allies

[grizzled zenith]

Well Czechs are most of your border with Germany. You can also build forts in Poland

[candid pecan]

also i have no manpower

should i do all adults serve

[grizzled zenith]

When Germany stops attacking and their divisions start to lose strength, it is very noticeable when the Germans are weak cuz they've already lost by that point

[grizzled zenith]

Don't worry a lot of your divisions come form your puppets, so they use their manpower

Instead of your own

[candid pecan]

do i do all adults serve

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah go for it

[bright arrow]

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[grizzled zenith]

It'll help you survive

[grizzled zenith]

What is that

[candid pecan]

nah im still getting no manpower

[grizzled zenith]

Oh damn

That's Megamind

[candid echo]

pretty close

[grizzled zenith]

Just wait you'll get some later, get used to having low manpower for now.

[candid pecan]

2 of my bubbles are red

but its not changing

[bright arrow]

What are your inf templates

[candid pecan]

number

[candid pecan]

a lot of it is from my puppets tho

[bright arrow]

Put digging men

[candid pecan]

wdym

[grizzled zenith]

Don't worry about the red, what matters is the number. If it goes up you're good if it goes down with time then you're losing

[bright arrow]

The ones who dig

[grizzled zenith]

Shovel support companies

Maybe instead if the recon

[candid pecan]

ik its not changing number

[grizzled zenith]

Also you should really add anti air

[candid pecan]

i think theyre worn out

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah then you should be fine

[candid pecan]

i only have anti air + anti tank

support

[grizzled zenith]

Add anti air

It's important

Also research the shovels

In the support companies research tab

[candid pecan]

wait

[void canyon]

anti air is really important

[candid pecan]

it made one of the bubbles green

the anti air did

i mean

[void canyon]

halfs CAS impact and adds piercing

[candid pecan]

ok

[bright arrow]

This is where the fighters as interception would have helped

[candid pecan]

oh no

i lost a fight

[bright arrow]

But at this point just run without airforce

I once did fighters with Operational integrity and was able to demolish the german airforce as austria

[candid pecan]

should i fallback

[candid pecan]

im hungary

not austria

and idk what that is

[grizzled zenith]

Keep the line since that's the forts

Forts are really good for defending

[candid pecan]

yeah do i fallback to the fort

[bright arrow]

Id you fall back you'll be gecooked

[void canyon]

was an example

[candid pecan]

ok

[bright arrow]

You just have to hold until Germany declares on Poland

[grizzled zenith]

Yes, definitely, make sure you stand on the forts and don't lose them

[candid pecan]

im getting pushed back

[candid pecan]

uh

how do i make sure i dont lose them

[bright arrow]

Pump out men

[candid pecan]

i cant

i have no manpower

[bright arrow]

Send everything that moves to the frontline

[grizzled zenith]

Like make sure not to get pushed out of forts

That's it

[candid pecan]

ik but

how can i stop them

theyre way better than me

its october 1939

germany might invade poland soon

[bright arrow]

Yes

Any day

[grizzled zenith]

Also you can shuffle divisions, if in a fight you're starting losing and maybe 1 division retreats and there's a stack of healthy divisions on the tile next to it you can move some of those divisions into the fight so you'll have healthy divs and they can defend

[bright arrow]

Btw Poland will probably collapse and will cook you from the back

[candid pecan]

i forgot italy was in the war lol

[bright arrow]

Thats why you dont call Austria

[candid pecan]

bruh if poland collapses the frontline will be way bigger

idk if thats a good or bad thing

[bright arrow]

Yes they do that sometimes

But you use the opportunity of German being spread to push and encircel them

[void canyon]

ach ffs its kinda collapsing because i keep forgetting to micro

[candid pecan]

theyre not winning any battles now

[void canyon]

good keep holding

[candid pecan]

for how long

what am i even waiting for to happen

[void canyon]

i mean its germany so ww2

they kill themselves by declaring wars

• i think austria-hungary tree gives enough bonuses to out-industry germany

[candid pecan]

im not even austria hungary yet

[void canyon]

the austria-hungary tree

the little bonus thing

at the bottom of ur focus tree

[candid pecan]

wait

i didnt see that

shouldi just do that

[bright arrow]

That's the joint tree

Your allies can do them for you

But they rarely do

[candid pecan]

dude

[fair horizon]

waste of ic

[candid pecan]

they havent even done the first focus

[fair horizon]

build a mil for guns before you decide to build a fort

[void canyon]

yeah forts are a waste

AI js bombs them out

[bright arrow]

Forts are great

[fair horizon]

or attacks from multiple directions and nullifies them

[bright arrow]

If you have a plan against the air

Like an airforce

[grizzled zenith]

Obviously, but the forts normally help a lot in defence

[fair horizon]

forts are crap 99% of the time

[void canyon]

if you have an airforce you have CAS and dont need forts

[fair horizon]

if you have a level 3 fort and i attack you from 3 directions you no longer have a fort

if you have a level 5 fort and i attack from 3 directions you have a level 2 fort

[bright arrow]

If you small and focus everything on interception fighters you can decimate airforces 10x your size

[fair horizon]

forts are garbage

[void canyon]

if youre good at air

[fair horizon]

if its not a chokepoint with 2 directions to attack from total they're a waste of ic

[void canyon]

they were crucial for my austria v. germany survival run

[grizzled zenith]

Which won't happen if you have a good defence line(depends on the tiles but you can go around that if your terrain(I mean the tiles, not the terrain like mountains, etc) is good enough)

[void canyon]

but it was prob the river doing everything

[candid pecan]

i think theyve just given up

[fair horizon]

literally happens all the time with the ai because they use battleplanning

[candid pecan]

they arent attacking at all anytmore

[void canyon]

yeah thats the problem w forts

AI stops grinding

they get full strength again

[candid pecan]

oh

[void canyon]

but it gives u time to build too

show me ur armies rq

[fair horizon]

id take a 9/1 over a fort any day

[void canyon]

zoom in a bit i wanna see germanys units

[candid pecan]

ok

[void canyon]

if you can find some weak spots just attack them and push tile by tile

you have sudeten they dont

if its really bad just fall back

[candid pecan]

there arent weak spots

there all covered by at least 3 divs

[candid pecan]

wdym

[void canyon]

looks attackable

[candid pecan]

thats what they were pushing me back on though

[fair horizon]

did you make a division or did you just use the ones the game made?

[void canyon]

oh god

show templates

i think we know the problem

is it still the 12w you start with

[candid pecan]

no

i just added more inf and an anti air support

[void canyon]

normal template

thats really good

[candid pecan]

ok

[void canyon]

what abt logistics

[candid pecan]

lemme check

[void canyon]

maybe ur lacking guns/mp

[candid pecan]

yeah its mp

[fair horizon]

missing equipment

[candid pecan]

wait

nvm

i think its the anti air

[void canyon]

missing 30k guns

[candid pecan]

bruh

how do i fix that

[void canyon]

show production

[candid pecan]

wait

i just realised

i completely ignored support

equipment

[void canyon]

23 mils is really bad

[candid pecan]

ik

i built a lot too

a lot of those mils

[void canyon]

if u can just build more mils then make more guns get rid of ur deficit u should win combat again

[candid pecan]

okok

im building more now

[brisk briar]

God damnit.. 1 missclick

From very strong to that

And my last save is 4 years ago

[candid pecan]

bro

its 1940

they still havent invaded poland

@void canyon

[void canyon]

uhhh

see if you can form actual austria hungary and then just brute force outproduce germany

they should also do war with the soviets

[candid pecan]

yo....

[patent thistle]

good riderance, thanks for taking out my other shit heavy cruiser UK

you saved my time from pressing a button to delete it

[candid pecan]

i have 28 mils now

[patent thistle]

as a gratitute i sink your entire fleet

[candid pecan]

@void canyon i have 28 mils

i just put them all on guns

[void canyon]

take mils off of stuff you have in surplus and make GUNS

yes good

youre learning ❤️‍🩹

[candid pecan]

i have 20 mils on guns

[patent thistle]

dam i should actually use good light cruisers more often with battlecruiser support, makes the numbers look nicer when you didnt lose like 10 destroyers

[candid pecan]

is that enough

but 0 support equipment

and artillery

[viscid coyote]

Idk

I like a bunch of ships to take hits

Like cheap destroyers

[viscid coyote]

Depends

[void canyon]

light cruiser spam is current meta i think

[candid pecan]

yo

[patent thistle]

i usually dont play meta

[candid pecan]

they bombed all my infrastructure

[viscid coyote]

I go torpedo spam

[candid pecan]

its rlly hard to build

[viscid coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-cooked-hes-cooked-you're-cooked-ur-cooked-gif-16603214519610947661

[void canyon]

yeah torpedo cruisers

[patent thistle]

i have like 170 dockyards i can afford the expense i think

[viscid coyote]

Well yeah what’s your main naval rival?

[candid pecan]

is this a weak spot

[patent thistle]

currently the UK

a already crippled UK

[void canyon]

uhhhh can someone take over helping new guy im busy microing seelow

[viscid coyote]

Well I think you’ll be able to overwhelm them with numbers

[void canyon]

they broke thru frankfurt

im fked

[patent thistle]

tbf the UK isnt exactly a threat with its fleet rn

[viscid coyote]

Ohhh ok

[patent thistle]

when i joined they only had like 2-3 carriers left

[viscid coyote]

Tbh tho i would like to keep the navy intact

[patent thistle]

might have gotten in some bad engagements with the american fleet?

[viscid coyote]

Huh

Ok

[candid pecan]

bro nothing has equipment

[patent thistle]

cant steal it anyways cause i dont have by blood alone

[patent thistle]

Commie UK joined the soviets

which were at war with the americans

[viscid coyote]

Austria rn once I paratrooped into Britain and stole their whole navy, I had 2 deserters, look at me now

[viscid coyote]

Wow

Operation downfall

[viscid coyote]

Sad

[patent thistle]

also i dont see the reason in shit AI designs

[viscid coyote]

Agreed

But hey the British navy is the British navy

[safe wing]

Its the AI what do you expect

[candid pecan]

uh

i cant really take anything

[patent thistle]

these two have been sitting in some random port never being used

[void canyon]

then dont offensive at all

hope the AI just grinds on you ✌️

[candid pecan]

they wont bro

[viscid coyote]

I honeslty can’t tell if they’d be able to take a battleship or not, they are experienced…

[candid pecan]

only on these 2 provinces

for some reason

[patent thistle]

nah my lightcruiser spam got this

[viscid coyote]

👍

[viscid coyote]

It’s the ai

[patent thistle]

illustrious fans i might would want to look away

[viscid coyote]

Actually, have you ever tried the Guangxi clique?

It’s my favorite country in Asia

[fair horizon]

HMS Acasta

[patent thistle]

dont do ze warlords, they feel extremly boring

[viscid coyote]

Yep

[viscid coyote]

Really?

Actually I can see where your coming from

[fair horizon]

im more of an ark royal fan myself

[viscid coyote]

But I just love rebuilding my navy from scratch

[patent thistle]

that one sunk way earlier i am pretty sure

[patent thistle]

as china i was basically forced to

[candid pecan]

vendrip can u help

[fair horizon]

ngl i hate countries where you have to stop being a crap country for the first 4 years on an alt history path

[candid pecan]

pls

[viscid coyote]

Damn

[patent thistle]

i start with like a shit heavy cruiser and some light cruisers i really would not recomment using

[viscid coyote]

Yooonjce

[viscid coyote]

It’s gonna get shredded by the Japanese

[fair horizon]

china fleet?

[patent thistle]

that was the old fleet

[tulip thorn]

My puppets are sending vols to the british who i am at war with lmao

[patent thistle]

the new one has a crap ton of light cruisers

[viscid coyote]

Hey the central powers won yay

[quiet vessel]

my puppets have a tendency to lend lease who im at war with a crap ton of guns

[patent thistle]

@fair horizon me think this engagement says it all

[tulip thorn]

Its like really funny

[fair horizon]

id post azur lane stuff about ark royal but uh... i choose not to

[tulip thorn]

all 4 are my puppets

[viscid coyote]

Thank you for your donation Britain

[fair horizon]

i think im gonna vomit

[viscid coyote]

The Brit’s

[fair horizon]

repairing because destroyers suck and they got their butt kicked

nope

i dont believe you

[patent thistle]

why do you have so many diffrent sub fleets-

[viscid coyote]

I just got them

I didn’t merge them yet

[fair horizon]

training admirals, really good for getting positioning for cruiser captain

[patent thistle]

who needs some shit ai designs

just sink them and remove that problem

[upper shuttle]

is there a way to remake carthage

[viscid coyote]

Idk

[fair horizon]

i literally use ai heavy cruisers with floatplanes as scouting cruisers

[patent thistle]

just neglected that i even had those-

[fair horizon]

tseng better

he has screening efficiency

fleet protector

[candid pecan]

how do i leave my faction and join the allies

[fair horizon]

less ships = more stats because of positioning

[patent thistle]

i have over 100 light cruisers i dont think i need screening efficiency that badly

[fair horizon]

MORE

[patent thistle]

i am litterally producing them with 170 Dockyards calm down

[fair horizon]

i usually play australia so having the ability to make less cruisers is kinda good okay? 😡

[patent thistle]

i am shitting them faster out when then france falls every game

[fair horizon]

also i suck at expanding

biggest issue for australia is having nothing but major power neighbors

[patent thistle]

this world is so starved in steel-

[fair horizon]

make steel mills

you're playing rt56 i know

[patent thistle]

OH RIGHT I FORGOT THAT WAS A THING rt56!

[fair horizon]

look at this guy with all his build slots 😡

[prisma zealot]

LMAO

[void canyon]

look at the green bubbles 😊

[leaden oyster]

ive got a problem

i made the personal union of flanders as monarchist germany

but i need the terretory so i can make the holy roman empire

can i like release them or smth

whats the strat

[void canyon]

annex them thru autonomy

[leaden oyster]

personal union

[void canyon]

if possible

[leaden oyster]

u cant do that

[void canyon]

oh

[leaden oyster]

im thinking i could like

[void canyon]

literally never been in personal union before

[leaden oyster]

maybe do a civil war?

via spies

man this shit sucks

[quartz canyon]

Non-Victoria German empire can form the HRE?

[patent thistle]

@fair horizon there goes the ark royal

(ships fleeing are not even mine, again the german and italians)

[leaden oyster]

dude im doing the same run

dont do dutchy of flanders

cant annex belgium to create holy roman empire

[void canyon]

god save meee

this defecit is new

is this the price of green bubbles?

[patent thistle]

okay tbf this is mostly a german victory, my ship just steamed through and they got involved

HOW THE F*** DOES GERMANY HAVE 7 CARRIERS-

[plain frigate]

seems like in alternative universe Mr.H got the purest meth from Heisenberg himself

[patent thistle]

i mean this universe is pretty much F***ed anyways-

[void canyon]

show world map lol

[patent thistle]

most of this shit is still in repairs

[void canyon]

ok yeah thats

thats something.

[plain frigate]

holy attiration

[patent thistle]

the americas are pretty much still normal

[patent thistle]

attrition?

[void canyon]

most active americas game

[plain frigate]

i can fell the pain going throught mongolia to invade the soviet

[patent thistle]

mongols were already mine

same with some far eastern states cause somehow green ukraine broke free

yes, green, ukraine out of all people

[patent thistle]

dont worry i got the men for the job

[void canyon]

hopefully my jets can do gods work

[patent thistle]

litterally

[fair horizon]

Monster

[fair horizon]

Uk fleet hits like a truck

[patent thistle]

tbf true, i litterally have 1940s battlecruisers and they still took sometimes like 30% strenght damage

[fair horizon]

I usually go with 1940 battleships with shbb armor

They still take like 3-5% damage

[slim nexus]

The more you watch it more curses it looks

[patent thistle]

austria hungary

italy being competent

india being split into states

[void canyon]

05.01.1946

finally rebounding

[patent thistle]

always recomment going soviets first, west last

[void canyon]

i couldnt push past the rhine if i tried

[patent thistle]

also dont build in berlin cause the AI will nuke it once they can for some shit reason

[void canyon]

gonna have to like mass produce jets to get air superiority just to paradrop or something

[patent thistle]

this is why usually you hold the rhineland if your situation allows it

[void canyon]

i mean

read wrong whoops

[patent thistle]

i mean the land before the rhine crossing

[void canyon]

yeah that was impossible

needed the river bonus

now its working against me

[patent thistle]

it depends on how the AI is able to attack

guess you were just unlucky

[void canyon]

like 180 divs

versus i think 90 at the time

[patent thistle]

back then that used to be like 220 or so

[void canyon]

i didnt really count

[sudden thistle]

whats the name of this again?

[void canyon]

prob two full army groups

[void canyon]

battle of seelow heights

[sudden thistle]

thx

[patent thistle]

... do you even have a fleet austria-

[void canyon]

kinda easy once you get the hang of the tech

[patent thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/bravo-gif-gif-8524601943548603280

you managed to get out one ship which is properly just some shit destroyer

clap for austria

[void canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/bravo-gif-gif-8524601943548603280

well done austria 😐

[silk fern]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-heath-ledger-clapping-sarcastic-applause-gif-17494560

[patent thistle]

kinda wanna try and save this as the soviets some day

meh, maybe one day

[frank estuary]

"Skill vs Spam"

[patent thistle]

considering the british fleet is gone its going to be even more dificult

the UK: "where did my ship go?"
China:

https://tenor.com/view/sowrong-whenitsgone-gif-9168365545215695951

[violet veldt]

dw dw ypi

wait

dw you'll be fine

those are like

low quality methinks

[void canyon]

if i put all my air over a soviet airspace i get green skies

but i cant split my airforce

so still getting bombed

i think i got rid of the US airforce actually

[patent thistle]

time to lag out the game

[void canyon]

quality > quantity

[violet veldt]

fellas

show me that map

show me the world map rn

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[patent thistle]

are they gonna do shit? hell no i intentionally keept them divided and weak-

[patent thistle]

quality aint gonna do shit if you have like 2 planes against 1k

[violet veldt]

is this vanilla

[patent thistle]

there has to be a balance

[patent thistle]

nope

RT56

[void canyon]

1600 good planes v 1200 bad planes is actually pretty good odds 🤔

[violet veldt]

if you only have like 2 planes why are you building planes

especially good ones

[patent thistle]

i have neglected the airforce the entire game

navy and army focus

[violet veldt]

you cannot win the industrial war by mass producing planes chat

your losses will outpace whatever ic you save by making it cheap

[patent thistle]

i am not even producing many anyways airforce is not my focus, the 2 planes thing was a joke

[void canyon]

is the design

production run

i only lose like 2 every week

[patent thistle]

dont have the air designer my guy

[slim nexus]

No don't

Don't do it

[patent thistle]

i did it already the war is basically over anyways

the soviets are on there last legs and the british fleet is gone

[slim nexus]

Hell yeah

[patent thistle]

just did it for the

fun

[fading elk]

Average Germany borders when trying to form the HRE

[void canyon]

air stats (monthly/yearly) over west germany

[boreal crest]

yo

why is there a russian empire in my defualt hoi4 game

lmfao

[inland yoke]

theres a burger

[sudden thistle]

alt hist

[boreal crest]

is this a glitch

[sudden thistle]

no

[boreal crest]

wdym

[sudden thistle]

prob a german puppet

[boreal crest]

oh

[patent thistle]

cant really complain that much rn

[finite plume]

How do some of you guys genuinely play with full rendering resolution off 🥀

[patent thistle]

we dont relly on grafics to "enjoy" a game

[finite plume]

Pretty sure turning that off literally hurts your eyes but alr

[fair horizon]

didnt even get the important part of russia smh

[patent thistle]

i will not even keep it, i will split it into billions of puppets

also resources will be found there eventually

(more)

[fair horizon]

border gore 🤮

no such thing as border gore if everything is part of the british empire 🧠

[patent thistle]

state transfers solving that issue:

[fair horizon]

cheating? smh

[patent thistle]

only using it in my territory i already own

[sharp sierra]

thats like beating your wife dude

[patent thistle]

what is so bad if i dont want some crap ah long driven russia which is cut into 50 pieces because the devs refuse to fix it?

[sharp sierra]

fo fix what

[patent thistle]

that.

just give some bordering states extra cores

[sharp sierra]

what need fixing

[fair horizon]

i think im gonna vomit 🤢

[patent thistle]

okay your eyes are immune to bordergore man

[fair horizon]

nobody let ober use mods again

[sharp sierra]

dw im just playing

[patent thistle]

what you see here with russia is quite litterally base game

[fair horizon]

BUT YOU DID IT

[patent thistle]

then dont blame the mods

[sharp sierra]

but at the same time thats starting to look like the female coworker whos kind of ugly looking but you still like her

https://tenor.com/view/weevil-bug-bodhi-gorman-dance-gif-3545674727125586975

[patent thistle]

still not perfect but better then, that, earlier

should have actually just annexed that blue state on second thought

and this small russia could not become any threat in the future yet it still can be used as a war reason = )

[deep pike]

is there a way to "juggle" the research bonuses in vanilla?

[fickle thicket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274052083397562409/1287044807520419892/PoPivu.gif

[atomic grove]

absolute insanity

[sonic sand]

no more navy

[fair horizon]

ngl you should be able to loan ships to other nations

[atomic grove]

for "realism" yeah

like giving 1/4th of your navy to your colonies or puppets

[fair horizon]

yes... definitely not taking my puppet japan's navy...

[patent thistle]

FIRE

whats up with the icons tho?

maybe i should get some sleep-

[fair horizon]

and not finish conquering the world?

[atomic grove]

im playing kaiserredux

[patent thistle]

i am still doing that my guy

[atomic grove]

this is why the icons are like this

[patent thistle]

nothing says i have to do every WC in a single sitting

[fair horizon]

actually its in the rules bud ☝️ 🤓

[patent thistle]

i dont care about the rules my guy. i am not submitting anything.

i simply do no longer have the energy to do everything in one sitting when work gets in the way

[fair horizon]

likely story

[patent thistle]

enjoy school while you still have it my guy, seriously do so

[fair horizon]

im too old for that i just make bad decisions

[patent thistle]

oof

anyways gn

[fair horizon]

gn

[devout trench]

my games are too laggy for a world conquest fr

[deep solstice]

how the germans feel watching 3.5k men die while only killing 64 dude

HOW does this happen

[ornate marlin]

yo

my lvl 5 general is not getting xp towards traits

even tho im fighting in forest and with cav

is it bc he too high level

[silk fern]

stupid frenchies will never learn their lesson with these ports

[dusky burrow]

I mean they should be earning towards traits so idk

[deep solstice]

I am the stupid frenchie (220 deaths to 9k deaths)

IS THIS THE BEST KD EVER? 😭

500 DEATHS 30K KILLS?

[dusky burrow]

what is this lmao

why are you just funneling troops into the same ports over and over

at least secure the land between the two ports

[misty fossil]

Juan empire

https://tenor.com/view/juan-gif-21122849

[ancient plover]

What is the advantage in using dive bombers in aircraft carriers, if the torpedo bombers have a better attack against ships?

[misty fossil]

I once had a 56/1.1 million KDR

posted an image in here look it up

[misty fossil]

cas with 3 ap bombs has more naval attack and targeting than a nav with 1 torp 2

adv frame with 4 bombs better than nav with torp 3 in the same fashion

[ancient plover]

hmmm

you right

so what's the advantage of the torpedo bomber? 🤣

[misty fossil]

imagine you have an enemy task force in port and you want to push them out

you can just have 2 torp squads do port strikes

cas cant do that for some reason

even though it should

[misty fossil]

if ur in game send me a screenshot of AP bomb, torp 2 and 3’s stats

[midnight musk]

When you want to play modded hoi4, but go overboard with production value...

[tulip thorn]

Bro is losing trains in factories

[deep solstice]

im in a stand off with the germans

they've been at my border (im france) for one month

we are just sitting here

staring at eachother

italy will join the war soon... i am becoming increasingly worried of my southern flanks.

oh

thank you churchill for not getting angry when I decline your italian war thats directly on my border and would result in me losing 1/2 of my land

❤️

https://tenor.com/view/italy-meme-battleship-pizza-mamma-mia-gif-22460103

[pulsar light]

why are you making armored trains

[uncut carbon]

So they dont get logistics bombed into hell

Useful for countries like austria or czechia vs Germany

Bhut why so many

[pulsar light]

state aa????

[uncut carbon]

Wtf

[uncut carbon]

Expensive…

[pulsar light]

less so than armoured trains

[uncut carbon]

Gotta build that in lots of provinces

[uncut carbon]

Imo u can throw 1-2 on it

And ur good

[dusky burrow]

Yeah you could use like 10 on armored trains

If you are getting bombed really hard

[deep solstice]

the 50 divisions of infantry on my border with germany while germany does literally nothing to them

https://tenor.com/view/paul-baumer-all-quiet-all-quiet-on-the-western-front-gif-27475681

ignore the swiss confederation im not helping them

[deep solstice]

(if I move a single division the germans will harass me, and I wont have enough to stop them)

ay britain you got me right!!

can you fight my wars for me please britain

[dusky burrow]

You have bigger issues

Namely the Swiss are getting destroyed

[deep solstice]

the swiss dont matter

im sure this wont be an issue

[dusky burrow]

Like the Swiss are suffering super badly

[deep solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-2088247993237804628

[misty fossil]

i stand corrected

[dusky burrow]

They will literally fall and open your flank, and then you'll fall just like France in 1940

[dusky burrow]

it's strange tbh

[misty fossil]

anyone who says carrier nav is better than cas failed kindergarten maths

[misty fossil]

what is

[dusky burrow]

Everyone recommends using torpedo bombers on carriers but the math seems to suggest dive bombers are better

Until 1944 torp

[misty fossil]

AShM has 1 more naval attack but cant stack up to 4 AP bomb's 16 targeting

[dusky burrow]

It's super strange

[deep solstice]

they are doing fine

[misty fossil]

they're high

[deep solstice]

[misty fossil]

same with everyone recommending 14/4 or 9/1 back in the day

[regal heron]

damn,how much they have

[deep solstice]

also I literally have no divisions, i can do nothing about the swisses failure

[misty fossil]

it just doesnt make sense

[deep solstice]

if I take even 5 divisions off my border, german WILL do stuff to me in places I dont like

[misty fossil]

into my hall of shame

[deep solstice]

I have to out aura the germans

if I just aura farm hard enough

they'll continue to NOT attack me

and will be a good boy and let america take berlin

im a methodical genius

[dusky burrow]

Use 3

[deep solstice]

with 23% stability

🔥

[misty fossil]

@ancient plover should have left ping on but there you go

carrier cas is simply far better than nav in all circumstances. have 2 nav wings on one carrier only

[dusky burrow]

hold around Bern or something so that they won't capitulate immediatelyy

[deep solstice]

thanks britain!

Britain is so goated

❤️

god its only 1940 and its been 3 hours

I need to speed this up

[deep solstice]

im about to have 4 infantry divisions and 2 mot pop out, Ill send those over

I hope they can hold out in my absence

banning communism rn 🔥

manstein these days

🧹

and theey just

they jsut do this nonchalantly

max level fort and he is DOGWALKING my divisions

had to reload the save and fix my godawful defense 😭

[remote quarry]

at what cost

[misty fossil]

10 mils on those cas

what else

[deep solstice]

how it feels to spawn in 10000 planes and harass the enemy supply line with 10K strategic bombers NO FIGHTERS.

https://tenor.com/view/bill-nye-billnyeusesmywifi-bill-nye-the-science-guy-gif-27403377

[dusky burrow]

BTW if I didn't post this then here it is, a simple tank guide

[deep solstice]

Im atleast delaying the inevitable

[misty fossil]

just do 14/4

[grand wolf]

Spanish civil war ez

[deep solstice]

HELP

yo I HATE british divisions

walking AWAY from the LOSING battles.

[grand wolf]

😭

Just use heavy tanks

[dusky burrow]

Italian troops are in France btw

[wraith mauve]

Whats best tno doctrine

[warped flint]

I am gonna play kaiserreich for the first time, what country should I play as

[wraith mauve]

Idk haven’t played it yet

[warped flint]

I would say the one on the right

[wraith mauve]

Ty

[deep solstice]

YES FINALLY OH MY GOD

THANK YOU FRANKIE D

YOUR JUST IN TIME 🥹

[misty fossil]

what mod

[viscid hazel]

https://youtube.com/shorts/QRAeU0BMRkY?si=UAcSAFvkPNEm9cBD

[dry briar]

Literally 1984

[upper shuttle]

what mods allow u to reform carthage?

[silk fern]

Probably formable nations

[upper shuttle]

thats a mod? what about new road to 56?

[silk fern]

I don’t play rt56 but maybe, and yes that is a mod

[dry briar]

Toolpack, TNO Map Projection for Vanilla

[upper shuttle]

toolpack? since when wtf

ive used tool pack for a while

[opal nymph]

Literally

We've always been at war with East Asia

[dry briar]

To the question: Why is Australia so big here, I will answer: this

[upper shuttle]

https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=2913150560

[opal nymph]

We've always been at war with Eurasia

[dry briar]

Eurasian Anthem

[hoary mortar]

Neat

[split bane]

For a simplish game, maybe play either the UoB or Syndie France, their content is for the most part more simple and you can get a hang for the proxies and stuff so you can build up for the Weltkrieg
If you want more up to date gameplay: Russia or Germany
Or China, China is always an option

[tired jackal]

backhand blow

[dusky burrow]

drive to the sea

not necessairly because you will encircle everyone, but you need supply

[opal nymph]

Off to Odessa

Also Activate Windows moment

[dusky burrow]

what is with all of these activate windowses lmao

[tired jackal]

there frontline collapsed

[glass thorn]

Yall ready for operation thunderstorm tomorrow?

[upper shuttle]

thats not update anymore

[upper shuttle]

do you just rename the country or what

[silk fern]

it still works for me

[opal citrus]

south america is MEIN

[warped flint]

Alright

[split bane]

Unironically, China is the most detailed region in the mod and their reworking China again soon

[warped flint]

This looks disgusting

[upper shuttle]

would it work with road to 56 or would I have no disable it

[silk fern]

use this one and it should work

[upper shuttle]

saw saw

just saw*

ill try it, thanks

[opal citrus]

when you get a huge lagspike and see treaty of moscow pop up on your screen

[split bane]

Oh it gets worse, don't worry

[warped flint]

It is already...

[split bane]

Yeah... so who are you playing as?

[warped flint]

Russia

[split bane]

Alright, so what's the plan? Savinkov? Republic? Return of the Tsar? Socialist?

[warped flint]

Well I am trying to do return of the tsar

but of course I was clicking a event to do something with them and the game lagged as I was clicking, so I am not sure if I clicked the one I was trying to

[split bane]

You'll figure it out eventually ig

[warped flint]

Uh

UHHH

[wraith mauve]

How confused are u? Me:

[split bane]

Ah ok you got Wrangel, Monarchy time

[warped flint]

im confused

Yay

[split bane]

Yeah this is what I meant by playing the other guys if you want more simple gameplay

Germany has a straight up card game

[warped flint]

💔

I am taking a break cause its sorta late now

[split bane]

Yeah I get that

[tidal gyro]

anyone from philippines here

[deep solstice]

oh btw, I reloaded a save when I realized you were lowk right

I saved them ❤️

and also re-enforced all my previous divisions

so

cant go on the offensive yet, but atleast defense is less of a worry

im sure america will help!

and my allies came, thanks guys for actually doing something

[regal heron]

but what are the important stats?

[tidal gyro]

armor is definitely the most important tank stat

[dusky burrow]

soft attack, hard attack, breakthrough, and secondarily armor

Also combat width, but you should know that off-hand (2 except for self-propelled artillery, which is 3)

[dry briar]

I wish THIS became a mod

[warped flint]

I wish there was a mod with wisconsin

https://tenor.com/view/wisconsin-scream-scream-if-you-love-wwe-wwe-scream-gif-1409081750862195491

[regal heron]

ok

[dusky burrow]

you can armor meme btw

basically make 1 tank with maximal armor

[wraith mauve]

Anyone know how to reserch

New things in tno

It’s says smh about reserch being outdated

[shell storm]

Anyone have a mod recommendations that overhaul the game?

[silk fern]

did south korea get exiled to the moon in this?

[heavy vigil]

equestria at war

[misty fossil]

equestria at peace

[silk fern]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brother-is-watching-you-gif-26058339

war is peace

ignorance is strength

[misty fossil]

freedom is slavery

[devout trench]

pakistan is the largest buffer state in existence

[devout trench]

the type of stuff mussolini would say during the invasion of greece

[fair horizon]

beer factories replace mils

[quasi shoal]

😨

[quiet vessel]

straight to the frontlines they go

[quasi shoal]

i'm almost out of frontlines 😭