#hoi4-general
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you're finland.
just summon 300 simo häyhäs and you're good to go.
I managed to push soviets but germany and soviet union at the same time is hard
And defending the baltics too
Soviets are ass
Am i supposed to be surprised by that statement?
yooo
sup
im making a 1000 people civilization on minecraft
anyone wanna play?
YOOOOOOOO
i have 80 dms
keep dming me to play
for me greece
without that many fighters
ioannis metaxas strongest fighter over here
georgios kosmidis better
i always try to form the ottoman empire as turkiye (without the dlc)
its torturous. (Or whatever.)
you can do that?
is it just a decision
Yeah, you can, but its incredibly painful
what does it require
Having to fend off against the british and french at once.
Iraq, Kuwait, Arabia (a part of it), Syria, Mandate of Palestine, Lebanon, Yemen.
basically, half of the required countries you have to conquer are under british and french control
But you don’t get the decision without the dlc right
and yknow the allied ai likes to naval invade the shi of you if you don't have a navy.
You do get the decision.
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What should I do now Im belgium goverment in exile in pvp only england and america are now player controlled
someone help, i cant advance for the life of me
as it should be
half a million men in sussex and no supply
no wonder you arent pushing
what should i do
if i take them away
ill just lose
then you need better divisions
im just using the default template
yeah thats not an attack division...
literally using ww1 tactics for fighting ww2 💀
aorry bro
this is ther first time ive beat france
so what do i do
with the template
you should make some templates for attacking
tanks, special forces
do i just do this or something
also im trying to land somewhere else but bro
its stuck on 49.7% naval supremacy
i need 0.3 more
to naval invade
wait its at 0 percent now
well since you probably dont have any tanks worth a crap, go naval invade somewhere else
cause you aint breaking through with your current army so you need to split their forces or like cas them to oblivion or something
limit ur troops there bc of lack of supply
and try to get armor divisions there
push anywhere where there isnt a river
move excess troops out if u can
and make sure u have air superiority and cas
Almost one year since GtG launched and bug
are u at war with soviets
yea no ur cooked
try to push them out of italy and just build up
soviets will probably invade you soon
too
focus on getting a lot of cas, get proper division templates
try to encircle those 14 troops
which ones
luxembourg's
and whenever uk just goes to reinforce send troops to halt them
im abt to lose my push
send me ur infantry template
real
ok so
reinforce where ur losing that battle
maintain that spot and also
search for supply hubs
and target them,
cut off london asap
tbh id just encircle but idk how well ur troops are
also dont use entire stacks to attack, leave some for defense
how can u tell where supply hubs are
supply map
f4 by default
theres none in that area
ok
monkey go oooo
u really need to hold that 1 spot
and keep using stacks for defense, and keep fighting troops to prevent them from attacking ur troops from behind
so use them to push behind the riverline north of london
move ur armor from cornwall to help you
yea
show me ur infantry template
Your gonna eat up supply
No support?
sigh
Good game brosquito
if u add a tank
Add support companies right now
which ones
can you send me a picture of ur equipment
wtf
like how much you have
Take some mils off infantry equipment and put it on planes NOW
1.1k deficit of cas 💔
bro
then convert useless troops into good armor divisions
idk how to make good templates
show me ur armor division for light tank
wdym
do you have a tank division
Template for light tank div
^
do you have self-propelled artillery
how can i check
not there
where
go on tanks rq
cooked
ok
wait
i still have these
i have 5 research slots
research tiger tank
170
wheres that
near panzer II
wym
ok yea thats fine
alr
i mean to this
yea
😭🙏
Try bringing your other troops to a port and manually send them over
HOW
someone's missing convoys
u need the boat
dont cry its ok😄
I send around 4 million guns, 30k convoys and 400k artillery to the UK
I play argentina
🙏
yo
hey
the marder 3 finished researching
u pro😎
Can someone help me with hoi4?
ok make a light tank division with self propelled artillery and motorized @candid pecan
How do I design good templates?
ok
In various terrains
how do i add the self propelled to it
under tank division
how do i add self propelled to it
I do not do "Intelligence agencies", I do not "naval invade", I do not use "CAS". I PARADROP. And if it doesn't work, I KILL MYSELF
yd
and it should be there
its not
I play non historical so it aint that difficult
did u research the wrong thing
wait for support company?
How do I create good templates?
a ok u pro😎
And how do these types of companies work?
yes absolutely
do u mean for support @glacial compass
brb
yo
What is a Destroyer tank?
How good is the Stormtrooper Battalion support company that Germany gets access to in the Prussian legacy branch of their army tree?
yea ok i understand u pro😎
How many internationals will there be?
idk
how u get that much territories with kyrgyzstan
what
soviet union after civil war
now how do i beat the allies sobbb
no
russia
civil war
other side won
then you get that
then why he playning for kyrgyzstan
im playing the soviet union
it aint kyrgyztan
kyrgyztan didnt even exist then
Best focus tree and best doctorine for SOV pvp?
Mobile doctrine
Why?
Okay, let the clussy be free.
What about focus tree?
Follow the path of having babies with Stalin and then killing him to end this shitty regime.
Don't deny your past, you are from Africa.
What about mass assault doctorine 
We come from Africa.
And monkeys are our brothers
In summary = Human waves with assault rifles
What are you implying, you white, supremacist, Texas, skinhead, emo, and goth!
The average Brazilian from the south manages to be more Aryan than you, mogado ezz
Mogged
What are you talking about?
I'm just kidding.
is it true that MP does not help with suppression at all, only helps you lowers the losses from suppressing

Is there a way to check casulaties of wars one isnt a part of?
Yes
Click the WT icon then click wars
Hey, can someone help me with how to create good templates and how to design tanks?
Tsar Black Vs Tsar Bomb
Do whatever Dankus does
Clearly it works
ultimate socialist india win
Hi, can you help me?
in vanilla?
SP or MP?
a little overkill?
naah
(the time)
naaaah
it higly depends on how many mils you have
yeah
and if you are playing SP or MP
paratrooped but ok
yeah
Yup
i forced romania to submit ❤️
Epik 🤑😛
hail magyar ❤️
it took me around 12 runs to form rome and after i did that i did it 3 times in a row
all it takes is just to perfect your tactic
I am playing Romanov path in Russia and I wanna use console commands to white peace the allies
Did the dlc release
Somone pls help me
whats the best mod for yall
just fight everybody ur russia
@zenith swallow I’m tough blud 🥶
whats the most overrated hoi4 mod?
pause the game, use allowdiplo to conditionally surrender to the allies, then tag switch to the leader of the allies and accept the peace deal, and just dont take anything
You can turn that of
Am I the only one who thinks hoi5 will be paradoxes next game after eu5?
I hope they do a Cold War game first
They had one made idk why they cancelled it
Would have been so peak
why can't i get flame tank support divisions even though i have them researched and can produce them
shii nvm
Did you change the tank type
Does air superiority or interception help with stopping bombers from getting shot down
Epic
They both work well against stopping bombers, but if you have a smaller airforce, interception is better
I mean stopping, in this the case, the British from shooting down my bombers. Like a bomber escort
Hey
Ah, then yes. Air superiority acts as bomber escort
FINNALY,now how do i do naval invasions cuz the uk kept doing them i wanna bring back the favour 😊
able to demolish france but not do naval invasions 😢
@bright matrix
ur so goated ik u can help
u explained aerial now say how to naval invade
Hello
wsup g.o.a.t
I will say that motherships and maritime bombers do work a little better with the ice ship than conventional naval bombers
Select several divisions that are grouped under generals and issue the naval invasion order, prepare your invasions by planning the invasions of the Great Britain coast, wait a while, and then land.
When the sea is green
with what you teached me i killed the benelux and france in less than a month combined
Huh
i tried even with aerial
never green
I'm terrible at navy 🥀
It's possible that you haven't been mass-producing airplanes.
At the beginning of the game
i managed to make a naval invasion near paris bc it was green for 2 secs tho lol
Then you're losing against the French and British air forces.
How do I report a hoi4 player for saying the n word 10x ?
stalin is the only really serious tree
obviously don't cw yourself
why wont they invade
@bright matrix how do i fix this i got aerial superiority and am killing their navy with airplanes
put more ships
then you should have naval superiority
which ships are considered transport
it says 0 transport now
convoys
its best to paradrop into the uk
speaking from experience
just drop into london and birmingham then just capture everything
uk should capituate in no time
this good?
yes
alright
plan a naval invasion, i also suck shit at navy
i think you do that atleast-
i did
it wont let me assign units
to the oprt
then i am shit idk what to do.
select ur units and control+left click
on the invasion plansd
x next to curso
cursor
@woeful berry
do u have other invasion plans and do u have the naval invasion tech
yes
exactly what im doin
idk then
theres an x next to my cursor when i hold ctrl n point on the inv
do u have enough convoys
try deleting all other orders then making new plans if that doesnt work reload ur game and try again
mao china
how to check
on the top where stability and war support for example are
wait until you have enough of them then try
cus if u got all ur convoys raided you cant do invasions
why would i know 😭 i have the same probelms
god save our world
What happens if I do this before going down the German civil war path?
You have to remiltarize the Rhineland first, so it would be locked
are there any tournaments
Oh, didn't see that, oops.
Isn't there a hidden goofy method to get the "Fuhrer" trait on the democratic leader for Germany?
guys i reached 500 hours on hoi4 do i get a medal
italy when i exist ;
Still not holding in Ethiopia
came late+ currently busy
K pluh
Hell Yeah!
early endsieg? (germany betrayed the pact)
Should I play fascist or non aligned
As what country?
Why not third Rome?
pan slavic lets u core every slavic nation
alr
W resolution
you have been like only the 2nd person to complain about it
STOP STEALING MY TERRITORIES, ITALY! You let France reach Lombardy!
The Changed pfp is fire
You don't deserve all of France's colonies! Nor Britain's!
Thx :3
Youre welcome!
Dam bro, were you playing as Germany?
Yes. I thought I’d be europes big brother and help all the little guys vs the Soviets
So I allied with the British
Which kinda broke their ai cuz I was on historical but they went facisr
Dont loose hope, France about to cap
France went communist as they should for imperial Germany
And you'll get Rhineland back
It’s late 1943 and Italy got capped
And the uk is unable to even take Ireland
And Japan is stuck on its homeland
Also Hungary died too
Trust the process
should i watch himym or 911 chat?
im truly a naval mastermind (my navy is on the right)
playing benelux and expecting naval supremacy 💔
not difficult against ai if u know how to design ships i just didnt prepare enough
i understand naval i just never bother building anything other than destroyers or subs because it just requires too much focus that i'd rather focus on anything else unless you're the us,japan or the UK it aint a priority
i like naval combat more than ground i just got bored of sitting around and attacked with only 2 good ships in the navy
Heavy breathing from the montana class
i love super heavy battleships🥰🥰🥰
you cant NOT focus on navy if you're the US because otherwise all your troops would be useless because you cant move em around :P
unless you just wanna invade south america
Same. I have the Soviets trying to take coastal lands from me in Asia and they're just disintegrating against the shore bombardment
i like playing japan and putting my entire focus on navy
i always do that but never notice any actual effects
i played japan once,did a revolution, lost it and just quit
I kinda changed the history of my run bc I wiped out Japan and claimed it, along with Korea, never got involved in fighting the Germans and just made myself an industrial powerhouse that the Soviets just cant take an inch from lmao
ive never played any other japan than fascist and historical
Really? I have a carrier, 3 battles, 3 heavy and 2 light cruisers alongside 40 destroyers so maybe thats the difference?
as china?
No as Americans lol
yeah i just send cruisers and destroyers
the others r not worth the fuel
just spam refineries and fuel isnt a problem
As America i dont notice fuel loss. At one point I was producing a TON of midget subs to farm some xp off training and it stayed full up. I had near 1200 minis just training lol
also only have a small fleet of patrol ships on sea constantly and make ur battlefleet wait at port for an enemy to show up
there's too much multi tasking to do 😭 like you need to do 20 things at once i just like the combat
Yay
What width do you guys use for infantry?
20
Mines 18 with loaded support and they cant be touched it seems
Alright
Russian civil war is easier then German ✌️
Late game 40 width?
But I did just watch a video that makes me want a few different div templates across a couple different generals so I can tag them out to fill the gaps and max the terrain
the american is the easiest imo
Isolationist America is a dream
Same, I may suck at navy in hoi4 but boats are cool
(Points to several dozen unpainted shop models)
I got man the guns since it’s free and it’s near having an actual customisable navy
"War, war and bad times, oh the humanity!" -Throws paper in the trash and goes back to making jets and nukes.
made em socialist
you can see a pattern
i have modded in ones but when im running w no mods the speeches are great for background
I kinda wish that Russia was smarter, and finished their war with the world before they attacked me. Feels a little anticlimactic watching them fail this hard lmao
eh the ai is made to do mistakes that could happen i mean germany literally did that
At the very least they couldve teamed up with the newly formed democratic China in hopes of getting me out of Korea lol
Valid lol
Im gonna assume they needed the Alaskan chromium and thats why they tried me
i doubt they have a navy you could go through arkhangelsk
They haaad a navy. But not much of one anymore lol
if they do have a navy it might even be in the black sea or the baltic sea
then you could just navaly invade anywhere no?
keep korea to keep their troops as far as possible too
Im already in Korea and Japan, so I have a foothold. I think im content with just seeing how many lives it'll take before they give up lol. Im building more missile silos to just bomb them perpetually while I stay home with my factories.
might be ruining railroads you'll need later though no?
No plans for Russia lol, I just wanted Japan out of the way and took Korea as a foothold to do exactly what Im doing right now lol. Gonna start throwing the Monroe doctrines at south America soon lol
you're just gonna leave em there? 😭
Yeah pretty much lmao, well when they declared war I started promoting democracy there just to mess with Stalin lol but thats about it
dude's gonna purge zhukov 🥀
damm already know this game(ironman) will get pretty chaotic soon
Who is that you're playing as?
Fascist Iran
took alot of land from soviets when they went to civil war
Lmao hopefully they're not too sore about it
and went to check how europe doing and see this bs
too early to assume anything other than maybe commie france and historical ger. no?
non-aligen france as far as i see
making spain win the civil war is so painful
also just saw this 💀
only played france once and it was historical just guessed commie because they could be like the UK where they release their puppets
is russia a japanese puppet
border gore
no lucky
I see
actually that was super fun although you're stuck w no manpower until you recore the provinces and that's a pain
I mean like sending volunteers to make them win
It would be funny though
and thank god there werent too many countrys that went independent
for me no had to so many retrys with how much bs AI went
ooooooohh i mean depending on which spain and if you have it on historical or not
It would be really funny if non-communist Russia is a puppet of communist Japan
lot of variables
i still dont understand how tf they communists
RIP
Cause old paradox didn't know how to make dlcs
Hey livadeia I did a imperial German playthru, it didn’t go to plan so to speak
It gets worse the longer u look
Japan for me has turned into " Chinese Japan" and idk why lmao
Competent italy?
Was not comp
200 divs and still gets clowned on
Ew what's wrong with Albania
Yugo had Like 30
where is germany rip
So I went monarchiest and the civil war ended in like 3 months, I then went the alt option of being allied with the uk, but despite this being historical the uk went facist when I joined the allies
You should have been saved by Italy rn
France went communist as they were meant to for monarchist Germany
On the one hand I'm not surprised. On the other how did they murder france
Does anyone else feed the bloodshed of other nations with high manpower and low divs? I just give them infantry equipment and hope they send more men to fight
Germany was a nice distraction
Also I saw a fascist Uk
So I guess Italy wasn't fighting the uk neavy
Wait I just realized that center stripe isn't east germany
Wonder what would happen if you made everyone fascist
Thats switzerland
You win the game
Belgium and Mengukuo?
So I went down the focus tree and fixed up a lot of the economy and then started the anti comintenr pact
Almsot everyone joined
Then war happened and I went to help Estonia but only Finland me and the uk went to help
Like fr? As in if everyone shares ideologies the game is over or?
He was a real person. So probably has some historic reason
Thanks Poland
this is a real person, he was a missionary in inner mongoila
and that's why he's labeled as a citizen of mengkukuo
No, u konda can make just a gian alliance and win
Ohhh for sure lol
Ended up getting 3 armies encircled cus of Poland messing the front
also a real life resistance member
And personal advisor to the Belgian king
The poles let the Soviets push into east Prussia
We were very slowly pushing the sovs up the Baltics
Close that poket
Then I made a defensive line when that pocket died from Stettin to the Czech border
It held pretty well
our progress after exactly 1 month 🥹
Turns out my fort wall back line worked
The Italians and Japanese joined me around this time
Only issue was the Japanese invaded the Dutch East Indies
HAH
I didn’t have any troops on the Dutch border cus the Dutch joined the komintern

Ya this save had alot of the ai trying to do good but making the situation worse
I might try do democratic germany next
Typical unhist rnjoyer
Also Ireland joined the komintern
And cuz the uk went facist they lost the empire
So only like 60 divs by 1941
France was being France so stuck on their border
But I had to go thru the Swiss
if u ever feel stupid remember my phone has more max fps and higher quality than my pc but my pc gets 20x more fps than it (avg)
How many divisions do I need to hold againt the germans as the soviets
I have 360 so far, should I get more?
For me about 120 do just fine
What template?
This, I am trying to get mass mob but I am having issues with army xp
Although since you say hold i presume you are going to be sitting behind the Dnieper instead of just pummeling the germanic hoards
I'd add an engineer company

I can do it with ~200 of those divisions but add engineer and cav recon(preferably rangers) alongside logistics. Mass mob working well, and then you want pure good fighters to protect them aerially. After that you'll want to mix in some mot/med or mech/med tank divisions to help reinforce against the german tanks, and potentially break the lines once the germans lose enough manpower
im not doing any tanks or air
I will try to get rangers
Either a. you're bad at the game or b. is that a challenge run or something?
no
I just figured since my air gets so many debuffs its not worth it
I remember the few times I did do air, even with meta design I trade like equelly at best
Soviets national focus: Finish all the purges, invest into your army and airforce, justify on and take turkey near immediately, which lets you also destroy romania = you have a super strong advantage against the axis
No industry
go for war economy as early as possible, and build mils in high infrastructure locations
The air debuffs are quite negligible
When I do use air I just trade equely at best
I just deceided its not worth my time
I get stuff to counter their air anyway
well you have until 1941 typically, and you should do the industry path too. i actually think i did the whole plan before i did the full army/air investment, but after i beat out turkey and romania
Yeah it's all ace debuffs, all unimportant
Also finland will attack you with germany if you let them live.
Focusing on air wins you the war
air accidents is annoying, kills a lot of planes
Weird, cause when I did use air I traded equelly at best
so just focusing on removing that makes the soviet airforce better
With meta design
Ehh metas aren't real
💔
a mix of the air accident/nighttime penalty is the issue
you only need like 4-5 focuses to fix it
You could easily do that, it's just like 2 focuses
I would rather do industry and militiary
anyways, as i said, 200-300 of the infantry divisions will hold the lines
And even then with me usually ignoring those focuses i beat the Germans by mid 43
Unless romania becomes part of the axis
They are in the axis
if romania joins the axis, hungary gets bigger and stronger
You need to immediately justify on turkey early game
and take both turkey and romania out to make it easy
Since yall like metas you can always do the invaded Turkey strat
I use meta designs
not strats
okay then 250+, and you'll really want good supply, anti-air, and fighters
Meta is slop anyways
good luck
I have gun 3
Its not hard to make them
Its just images in a row
Like a Minecraft animated effect
he never said anything about them being hard to make
Ik, but imagine how cool it'd be in vanilla
they declared war
Sometimes, left aligned text is all you need
But eh, center aligned works I suppose
PARADOX PLEASE GIVE US BRITAIN/COMMONWEALTH REWORK
(and not charge us 999999 dollars)
We already got it
Have you heard of Man the Guns
i remember when i was first toying around with gifs in an edit of animated leaders mod
Gave the UK alt history paths
pretty cool to see this implemented
They also gave Canada free content and India got a revamp as well
Integrated and outdated
18 days till dlc
Oh you want a second rework
how many days until the next free dlc
10 years
Im getting the next few DLCs for free
2030
I just spent 50 dollars for ship models
if germany gets two then britain should get it as well.
germany got alt hist paths in waking the tiger
drop some free dlcs my way
paradox interactive dont know what is a "free"
They do
Yugo got a free rework
Romania got extra content
Canada got a free path
hey i spent 80 dollars on ck3 and i still couldnt buy all of the dlcs
And some extra focuses
who cares abt yugoslavia romenia annd canada
paradox be like "NEW FOCUS TREE FOR LIBERIA, $99 DOLLARS PLS"
Well I gave you examples
Romania and Yugoslavia are peak
waiting until imperator rome goes on discount so i dont have to make a hoi4 rome mod

You want abandonware?
equestria at war should be integrated into base game
yes
yes
Imagine an EU5 mod that is basically Imperator Rome 2
ill work on eu5 when eu5 comes out
hoi4 doesnt have any good rome mods anyway
Because it doesn't fit with gameplay well
almost like this game isnt made for rome
At this point just integrate tno
nothing ever happens, the mod
Or if we want a good mod, red dusk
Stare at the decision screen
Peak
At least that mod has content outside of the decision screen
road to 56 should unironically be in base game
Please no
tfr should be integrated into the base game
but content
Proxy wars my beloved
The trees are mostly just vanilla trees
Peak
i still have not played tfr
but hey let me at least try
Integrate kaiserreich for the annexation decisions
But mediocre content is mediocre
does tfr have uk content
No
no
Also half the trees in R56 are vanilla
shame
TFR is an absolutely schizo mod
i mean there is the uk cibil war i think
2020 happens and everyone loses their minds
TFR is made for people on the fbi watchlist
ive played east showdown, the ukraine war mod
Well yes but that's just due to the 1st European war
world if among us wasnt created
Covid must have had neurotoxins in that universe
can england become independent from the uk in the civil war
i want to do an english nationalist playthrough
There is no UK content in TFR except maybe scottland leaves
In tfr the amount of lead per litre of water is quadrupled
Flint Michigan is considered high quality water
btw i never understood why are there 4 aryan revolts in us civil war
Sounds about right
Like honestly given the state of the country there probably would be
btw i am a neurotoxin, people go schizo just from talking to me
unfortunately, i exist
So you are the reason the hoi4 community is this way? 
are we chad reacting every jonathan message
Great I’m at war with the US now
Germany moment
whats the rarest achievement
Oh, thanks!
yall have a problem with saving ship refit designs where once you've had too many of them the game refuses to let you save more?
how does it happen and how can i fix it
the great war and rt56 would be rlly good in the base game
like 45 years of straight content
playing tfr and-
tfr?
Sounds about right
pov you put turbine in wheeled tank
well ur cooked then
bruh what is this
fw190 fuselage with wheels
they should not worry, in about 80 years the US will get the debuff "century of humiliation", which decreases their stability by 100%, decores multiple states, and reduces recruitable population by 80 percent
So long as you have a Russian puppet you should be fine
IDK the video was talking about car brakes
wait what happens in tfr?
I'm kidding
But the US shouldn't be that hard as long as you keep them off whatever continent you are on
yeah defending is a lot easier than attacking
its time-
Which one are you playing as
Did you win?
i lost
huh- nothing happend-
nevermind shit happend-
california does not like me saddly. too bad that wont last long.
these civil war borders are... strange to say the least
easy fix

who are you talking to?
hell yeah!

could you still form the hre?
HELL YEAH!
Yo im new could i get some help with my divisions pls?
Holding just fine with no air
Normal against ai
Yeah just go Monarchist, and invade Italy with the "Conquer Italy" focus in the Mitteleuropa branch if you have GDR
If you don't, just do what you used to do before
alr thank you
do you need victoria still?
Nope, only if you're doing it without the DLC
hehe i winning
go to #ask-for-help-here and check pinned messages
i have the perfect mii in mario kart for that
The fall of the British is near 🫡
finally someone did sealion
Plan Z
Is that Mr generic as Field Marshal?
what do I do, the Germans stopped attacking
win
PUSHHHHHH
but seriously, try to peel off bits of german strength
im not able to battleplan
and if they collapse they collapse
Of course don't battleplan in this situation
there are several salients in east prussia you can make use of
cut off konigsberg and encircle those troops
Im not able to
skill issue
the germans still have manpower
shut up
they didn't battleplan enough
they have just under 4m casualties
what about you
in any case you can always naval invade
also romaina is also a thing you can encircle
maybe, but they will have a second front soon
fair
d-day in france to make that 3
kidding but it's definitely possible if you get military access
Yeah with 300+ divisions your supply will have issues
classic eastern front
Just upgrade the railways?
true except on the souterh front
You can also use more trucks in your second tier of supply depots
I am doing that to
also that
Im not very good with dealing with the railways ngl
I just upgraded some and its the same
Level 5 railway from moscow to every front supply hub will do the trick
Alright
Typical doesn’t need to be lvl 5, I build lvl 3 and a few extra supply hubs and I’m fine
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