hoi4-general

[dusky burrow]

I mean how did you lose this badly

[warped flint]

will try to limit that

[bright arrow]

communist belgium formed the EU

[warped flint]

I didn't expand my army

[dusky burrow]

Bruh

[warped flint]

I JUST, cored saudi and syria and jordan

[bright arrow]

How can countries with focus trees change ideology in game ? Without having to be capped?

[paper echo]

they want that sweet tasty oil

[wanton whale]

ahhh okay

[bright arrow]

How much support do i need to switch ideology?

[solar tundra]

i'm not able to do this because italy doesn't exist

it was annexed 5 years ago

[split bane]

So you need at least 50% to do the referendum or if you have more than 60%, your people will try and force a referendum
Unless you want to change to Non Aligned, I don't think you can do so legitimately

[subtle elm]

average hoi4 mod communist path:

[wanton whale]

as we now it

Peak

[solar tundra]

Recruiting some more defensive divisions!

[ripe fox]

If I'm not mistaken, just capturing Zagreb will make Croatia separate from Yugoslavia, doesnt matter which country you play, right?

[solar tundra]

if you puppet or liberate it yets

[ripe fox]

But if ur in a war with Yugoslavia I think just capturing Zagreb as a province will make Croatia separate and automatically become your ally, like how Italy does when you capture enough of it

[sudden thistle]

It just appear when Germany invades

[hot patrol]

Has the ® symbol always been there?!?!

[sudden thistle]

Yeah

[hot patrol]

By god..

[dusky burrow]

bread?

[bright arrow]

rate my game

[dusky burrow]

https://tenor.com/lCO4VK8PtW4.gif

[dusky burrow]

how did you lose so badly / 10

[bright arrow]

it was really easy

first, you dont play

then you tag yourself into the 3 province germany that was left

4, you get your land back by winning with the british, but the Russians break through neutral poland with 500 divisions

[sudden thistle]

Skill issue

Just lock in

[bright arrow]

what is annoying is i cant seem to be able to switch to communism again

i dont know what are the requirements

[sudden thistle]

Focuses

Uhh

I forgor

Mb

[bright arrow]

yeah, im already with the commie tree, but im playing as democratic capitulated germany

i have 60% communism support

[sudden thistle]

Just get more somehow

I think u get a civil war/just flip

I’m not sure how much though

[bright arrow]

yeeey, i connected my two long lost frontlines

the spice must flow

[lunar oracle]

on the way to 100% before the new dlc!!!

should i celebrate with a cake?

[umbral agate]

can germany get 3 special forces doctrines

[brittle cypress]

No

Pretty sure only the goe countries can

for now

[split bane]

Get an ice cream cake!

[lunar oracle]

love an ice cream cake, was thinking a cake with the 100% steam imahe printed on

[mint acorn]

How tf can i get in a civil war bc musolini gets deposed after forming rome

[digital aurora]

i think i found a new strat, make a nuclear facility around 37, because by 1940 when you can actually take the focuses, you already have around 3 breakthrough points

[steady rapids]

depends as nazi germany i like making it very early

along 1 civ so i can take the 5th research slot focus

[digital aurora]

I built it early as the soviets, because you also get a 1 year ahead bonus iirc for the nuclear tech

[misty fossil]

powercreep, low quality content, bait or any combinations?

[ivory hull]

just anschluss early

[steady rapids]

Yes that's implied

[ivory hull]

why build a civ then?

[steady rapids]

Cuz anchluss witjout building ONE civ will always give you only 49 civs

[ivory hull]

no

it gives me 50

[steady rapids]

Yuh

Try in non ironman

[ivory hull]

i always do that

i always have enough civs

[steady rapids]

Do annex aus like 6 months after Rhineland remilitarization

You'll see it gives 49 if you don't do the focuses to get civs w four year plan ig

[ivory hull]

i always rush institute price controls too

soooo

[steady rapids]

Like if you do only kdf wagen + reichsban

And the anchluss as fast as possible

You never get 50 civs

Only 49

[steady rapids]

Yuh when doing the price controls branch you get focus civd xd

Civs**

[ivory hull]

damn didnt even realise

[steady rapids]

But usually I do it after anchluss and the extra research slot

[ivory hull]

i get it asap mostly

like directly after anschluss

then the research slot

[steady rapids]

You get civs w reichwerke and the focus before price controls

[heavy vigil]

hoi4 germany but you have to abide by versailles world conquest

[ivory hull]

200k manpower max

[steady rapids]

Eh I find it better to rush reorganizing Wehrmacht, then furhrerprinzip and anchluss

[ivory hull]

no planes

no tanks

[steady rapids]

300k I think?

[steady rapids]

Dw they're not tanks.. just tractors

[ivory hull]

i do reorganize, führerprinzip, todt, price controls anschluss

or smth like that

[ivory hull]

only 100k

[steady rapids]

Eeh I I prefer doing reorganizing, furhrerprinzip, then todt, then anchluss then extra research slot then price controls

[ivory hull]

i always get price controls before that

[steady rapids]

If im fast enough consumer good factor doesn't get above 8% ig

[heavy vigil]

yeah

[ivory hull]

do "light tractors" even count as tanks tho

[fair horizon]

no surface navy 🤮

[umbral agate]

Goe?

[fair horizon]

graveyard of empires

[sinful cloud]

how are you all guys

any ideas on a fun playthrough?

[warped flint]

why did the uk attack me

I have low fascist support

[fair horizon]

war goal in their tree

[warped flint]

I thought that needs for iraq to have fascist support

[fair horizon]

doesnt look like it from what the wiki shows but im not in game to check

looks like you denied becoming a puppet?

also communism counts for the one you're thinking of too

[warped flint]

I never got anything for them asking me to be their puppet

[warped flint]

Communisms banned

[fair horizon]

wait im rarted i read iran as iraq

nah it shouldnt have let them then

[warped flint]

bruh

[steady rapids]

Monarchist Germany lowk so fun

[fair horizon]

found it

[steady rapids]

Especially since they made forming the HRE simpler, tho I think it's still buggy

[fair horizon]

UK wanted your oil ches

[warped flint]

The americans also joined the war against me

dirty greedy brits

[fair horizon]

we would never!

looks like you got a free qatar though

[sinful cloud]

brits really took a nose dive since the ww2

now when someone mentions a brit i just imagine a ginger white male pissing in my 1700 year old historical town

drunk as a skunk

[lapis snow]

nothing has changed there, just we used to do it as part of the royal navy, now it's with TUI

also as a Croat you can hardly complain about us when the spanish have suffered for decades

[sinful cloud]

that is true

[heavy vigil]

hii baba

[sinful cloud]

we do like the moniez, although we've been getting a lot of €10 ryanair brits coming over

[heavy vigil]

hi vendrip

[sinful cloud]

big L for that

jokes aside, i like you guys

[lapis snow]

it'll be the montenegrin's turn eventually

[fair horizon]

Hi Casey!

[lapis snow]

ahoy

[fair horizon]

i didnt do it whatever it was

[azure crescent]

and my fun is over

[fair horizon]

chat i learned that theres still a country that flies the a4 skyhawk

argentina ❤️

[sinful cloud]

easiest cap of your life

just snake hubs, capture equipment

[azure crescent]

and cap 4 majors

[fair horizon]

do you capture more equipment if you keep the enemy in red supply?

[sinful cloud]

you're alf landon, you can do anything

[azure crescent]

true

[sinful cloud]

i believe in you

looks like a fun playthrough though

mind giving me the save file?

[azure crescent]

i got screwed at the start and started the civil war with 2 tiles

[azure crescent]

how?

its ironman mode so

[sinful cloud]

just copy from the documents folder on your pc

paste here

how did you even end up at war with germany?

[azure crescent]

idk man

i just pissed off the germans

[sinful cloud]

do germans have military access in russia? or are they at war with each other?

[azure crescent]

faction members

[sinful cloud]

rip

dont send me the file

forget it

[azure crescent]

its quite frankly a weird game

[lapis snow]

might have something to do with that italian civil war

[fair horizon]

dw they'll stop hounding you when they go to war with france

[sinful cloud]

oh, i thought you were playing manchuko

wtf

[heavy vigil]

hru ??

[solar tundra]

finally after year of attrition

the troops enter india

[sinful cloud]

idk man, maybe send less units, lmao?

9 mountaineers will do instead of 70 divs there

[terse quail]

Hi, guys

How complicated would you say this game?

[azure crescent]

wheres the fun in that

800 more units to the front

[sinful cloud]

not having to put 150 factories on guns

been there done that

[solar tundra]

they're tank divs

[sinful cloud]

okey then 900 mils on tanks

[dusky burrow]

I don't know how you'd do it, you can't have a single plane, you can't have a large enough navy to land in France, and you can't have tanks either

[sinful cloud]

^ what did i say

[terse quail]

I have played Crusader Kings 1, 2 and 3, have a very good understanding of them all. I understand pretty much most things in EuIV and find it nice and sometimes challenging. Played EU3, too. I playe da lot of Imperator Rome. And I played some of Stellaris

[solar tundra]

negative 1 million guns

[terse quail]

by no means I would call myself at odds with Paradox or too stupid fro their game genre

[sinful cloud]

think you should find it really easy then

[heavy vigil]

probably by getting good

[terse quail]

I do not

I suck ass.

[heavy vigil]

im gonna give it half an attempt

[sinful cloud]

supply and planes are everything

learn the game with germany

[dusky burrow]

200k troops means like 10 18/0 infantry diviisons

[terse quail]

It's like after so many hours in the game, I understand less

makes me feel so dumb

[heavy vigil]

let me look it up brb

theyre more specific than that

idk how much leeway im given tho

[sinful cloud]

eu4 is much more complicated than hoi4

[terse quail]

So I wanted to see is Hoi4, like, the pinnacle of Paradox complexity?

[terse quail]

lol

I would literally call it almost easy

no joke

[fair horizon]

naval part doesnt seem so bad though

[solar tundra]

oh yeah

i was lend leasing my allies thousands of guns

i forgot

[sinful cloud]

bro, just play germany. make saves before offensives like taking poland france uk russia

reload when you fail, you'll be good at 10-20 hours in

[fair horizon]

i cant even figure out why my bigger army loses in that when ive been milteching up the whole game

[fossil furnace]

naw that shits easy

[dusky burrow]

But they're also displacement limited, the battleships can't be above 10000 tons standard, light cruisers 7200 tons, destroyers 600 tons

[heavy vigil]

Germany was to demobilize sufficient soldiers by 31 March 1920 to leave an army of no more than 100,000 men in a maximum of seven infantry and three cavalry divisions. The treaty laid down the organisation of the divisions and support units, and the German General Staff was to be dissolved.[

[fair horizon]

like ill have a 3 star general and then lose

[dusky burrow]

If I remember correctly

[dusky burrow]

Oh my

[fossil furnace]

I've played 3 eu4 games in my life and done superb on 2/3 of those

[solar tundra]

the shortage was due to promising tens of thousands of seized french guns that have now run out

[dusky burrow]

So you can't change division templates either

[sinful cloud]

idk man, i just couldn't wrap my head around how to play eu4

[terse quail]

Every time I just keep postponing every war becuase there just isn't enough time to get ready. I don't have enough of at least something

[heavy vigil]

The manpower of the navy was not to exceed 15,000 men, including manning for the fleet, coast defences, signal stations, administration, other land services,

[fair horizon]

right but that deutschsland class is the panzerschiffs we have in game

[terse quail]

and then with all the designers and various equipment, the game like exploded between my attempts

[sinful cloud]

brother, you can take poland with just horses if you wanted to as germany

[terse quail]

I see now you can design tanks, design ships, design planes lol

[heavy vigil]

15K in navy with 10 land divs

[fossil furnace]

why did u give them alsace

[terse quail]

is this game gonna get an equipment designer next

[dusky burrow]

Yeah the Deutschland replaced the battleships

[terse quail]

or food mechanics

[heavy vigil]

liv do i have freedom to use these with own designs?

[solar tundra]

alsace??

[heavy vigil]

or do i have to find and use the correct ones by the terms of versailles

[fossil furnace]

mission trees r a good help, find smth u want to larp and do so, it'll make the goal more clear

[dusky burrow]

My bad it's 6000 tons for the light cruisers

That's even worse

[sinful cloud]

i might give it another go, the UI is atrocious though

[terse quail]

Poland seemed surprizingly resilient when I invaded it, but OK

[dusky burrow]

You certainly have the freedom with the ships, that's how the Deutschlands came up

[terse quail]

maybe 1940ish is too late

[fossil furnace]

do so, I dont play it much but its fun every once in a while to do a campaign lol

[heavy vigil]

Germany was forbidden to manufacture or import aircraft or related material for a period of six months following the signing of the treaty

[terse quail]

So, really, is no one here on the line with me?

[heavy vigil]

you can have an airforce

[fossil furnace]

bordering province, where the maginot is built

[heavy vigil]

its winnable

[terse quail]

Do you all actually consider EU4 more complex?????

[sinful cloud]

brother we are, you're overthinking it

[fossil furnace]

no???

[solar tundra]

well it's still wartime

[fossil furnace]

you can core it :(

[solar tundra]

they're occupying it cause the troops came from that direction

[fossil furnace]

mid war

[solar tundra]

How?

[fossil furnace]

focus

[sinful cloud]

make 120 default template divisions as germany and steamroll poland

[fossil furnace]

it cores luxembourg and alsace-lorraine

[sinful cloud]

then you'll have some trouble with benelux and you'll learn new things, enjoy the process

[heavy vigil]

ok so basically for in game restrictions it would be: no more than 100K deployed in army (except coast garrisons) with no more than 10 divisions, coastal garrisons and navy combined may not exceed 15K manpower (but any ship other than submarines is fine for gameplay), no airforce, tanks may not be produced or deployed

[solar tundra]

whic one

[terse quail]

I think by this time I have watched 8-10 times more YouTube content than have actual gameplay

[solar tundra]

oh well i can't do the focus because i don't control the province

:(

it will be mine after the war is over eventually

[sinful cloud]

just play and dont be afraid to lose, you can always reload

[fossil furnace]

wilted rose emoji

[sinful cloud]

my first game i got capped because i forgot to put units on maginot, was too focused on poland and the game just ended

[terse quail]

Yes, but the thing is after losing I get new ideas or figure out what whent wrong or decide to try something different the next time

In Hoi4, I do not

[solar tundra]

what does this one do

[heavy vigil]

@fierce vault just came up with a germany challenge :D

[terse quail]

I should have added, I have also played all 3 Victorias

[fossil furnace]

lets you give slovakia to ur czech puppet or your hungarian puppet

[terse quail]

including an incredibly enjoyful countless amount of hours in VIcky2

[fossil furnace]

not really worth it since slovakia actually has cores on itself

[solar tundra]

i don't have a hungarian puppet or czech puppet

[sinful cloud]

idk what to tell you, the game has a learning curve but it aint that hard. watch more videos on youtube from someone like feedback gaming (but not the exploit videos)

[fossil furnace]

I meant the regions

bohemia-moravia or whatever it's called

the reichkommisariat thingy

[dusky burrow]

The armed forces of Germany must not include any military or naval air forces.```

So unfortunately yeah, no air

[terse quail]

youtube is just full of exploits and metas

[heavy vigil]

ok let me change it

that should be fair

actually maybe no div limit just 100K to send volunteers

[sinful cloud]

here you go, full playthrough, historical germany, a lot of explanations, no exploits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZh9hbx-lew

now stop moaning please

[heavy vigil]

but thatd be easy

wait no

i think you can send vols?

yeah you can have 15K from coast garrisons

thats 30 divs

[solar tundra]

the american naval invaders have starved to death

[terse quail]

you know how you study some lesson and you are capable of replicating it? But, you just replicate that because you learned by repetition?

Not actually understanding why things that worked, worked, cause and effect, etc?

if I recall, I watched that feedbackgaming's video and it was like that

[regal jackal]

Is it physically possible to run HOI4 on iPhone 17 Pro hardware?

[heavy vigil]

oh i forgot to add no submarines

[terse quail]

I can replicate famous youtubers

no problem

[ebon jasper]

anyone interested in 1 v 1 ? tfb or commanders

[terse quail]

but I don't understand why things happen at their core in order to adapt and implement in alternative scenarios

[sinful cloud]

read the wiki then, ask questions, try to answer them yourself, what kind of an answer are you expecting here

[terse quail]

And I don't understand how people do, unless they play all the time with massive spreadsheets

and calculators all th etime

[sinful cloud]

no we're not

[ebon jasper]

any idea about some servers that interested in mp like tfb?

[sinful cloud]

check the Discardian server

[solar tundra]

mwuahahahahaha

[solar tundra]

their military has shrunk with losses and ours has not

[sinful cloud]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2714213712

[timid crest]

Technically yes

[heavy vigil]

@dusky burrow effectively 22K manpower left for ground army (22 divs of 500 men)

also do recon tanks count as tanks?

i suppose they do

so sad

[dusky burrow]

Yeah no recon tanks unfortunately

and also no armored cars too

[heavy vigil]

armored support vehicles arent tanks

imo

[dusky burrow]

Yeah that's a grey area

And also aren't the only nations you can attack like the Netherlands, Sweden, and Norway?

[heavy vigil]

i kind of wanna be a bit liberal with myself and allow all support tanks

like recon and flame

[heavy vigil]

thats a thing you have to ignore anyway

its just like army restrictions

[dusky burrow]

Lmao

At the same time how are you going to capitulate the UK

[heavy vigil]

this is so sad

[heavy vigil]

kill their navy?

you can have a navy

[quick trout]

What is the meta right now?

[heavy vigil]

its anschluss thats my concern rn

[heavy vigil]

for what

[quick trout]

As germany as an example

[heavy vigil]

tempted to go PEG because i wont need mils anyway

[heavy vigil]

theres multiple for multiple scenarios/enemies

but i guess heavy TDs

[quick trout]

Do you know where i can check them out per chance?

[heavy vigil]

youre probably just playing singleplayer right?

[quick trout]

Yes

[heavy vigil]

also just go to #ask-for-help-here and ask precise questions instead of anything vague smh

then you wouldnt even want heavy TDs

[heavy vigil]

what about transport planes btw

are those military

also very tempted to do heed the concerns

i love my coastal defense force

[jovial carbon]

is this good for 14 years?

[fair horizon]

show navy

[heavy vigil]

i forgot to delete some destroyers let me downsize it more

[fair horizon]

NOOOOOOOOOO

[heavy vigil]

thats like 2 coast guard divisions worth of manpower

[fair horizon]

SO CRUEL

also why does your winter look so nice?

is that a map mod?

[heavy vigil]

i have a lot of cosmetic mods

yes one of them is a map

[dusky burrow]

Good question

Maybe you can just "requisition" planes from the local populace

[heavy vigil]

yes so this army is fine

[dusky burrow]

You can have 12 destroyers and 12 torpedo boats

Yeah

[heavy vigil]

i dont want them i need more coastal garrisons

might let me send 1 more volunteer

i think i did something wrong because the 10 divs are 96K manpower

just need to scrap another 2K manpower from the navy

which is fine theyre all gonna be light cruisers someday

6 ships is kinda sad

[dusky burrow]

Isn't the 100k number just the army

[heavy vigil]

yes

but navy is 15K

which includes coastal

[heavy vigil]

hmm

i think mechanized forces arent banned

thats silly

[solar tundra]

at least 10 million people have died in this playthrough fighting in the desert over nothing

what

[heavy vigil]

accept

rare event

[brittle cypress]

Holy hell

[warped flint]

I am tempted to try my first world conquest ever

[jovial carbon]

make sure to get atleast 1 south american country to get involved..

in ww2

[warped flint]

Probably can just use the colonys there

[marsh ravine]

6.7

[solar tundra]

The result of the war

[maiden shard]

No it is kurapika

[solar tundra]

I need to disband axis

And defeat romania

And then defeat Yugoslavia

and make croatia

:p

[marsh ravine]

You do not need croatia😭

[solar tundra]

I want to release croatia

Romania took too much in the peace conference

[marsh ravine]

Why😭

[solar tundra]

i love croatia

That has been my goal this whole time

but the meddling british

[night lintel]

do you want to make us blind

[merry relic]

I tried playing as Italy and fought the war in Ethiopia and it didn't go so well. Advice?

[solar tundra]

THE WAR WAS SHORT

WHERE IS THE UK

it's still around??!?!?!?!

[mild hazel]

oh boy i feel like playing a nice relaxing game of non historical--*mexico goes communist and declares war on everyone and their uncles forming the greatest hyper allies faction youve ever witnessed *

every game too btw

mexico loves communism

[solar tundra]

how do i find the uk

it still puppets canada

i want canada to be free

[misty fossil]

are there any cheat tools i can use to carry out some tests

im trying to experiment with the best carrier composition (for my modded naval game)

[heavy vigil]

damn

versailles makes germany kinda hard

[silk gust]

Accurate china color

[solar tundra]

what do y'all think

SCOTLAND

[silk gust]

lol nice

Hey do you guys have any tips for playing Japan?

[marsh ravine]

what mod

[silk gust]

Just china color

[marsh ravine]

okay

also we cant see anything important

whats ur div templates

do u have green air

have u escalated the war

cos u wanna escalte asap

[silk gust]

I have green air and escalated

[marsh ravine]

okay

div templates?

[solar tundra]

i'm giving the united states a huge lend lease

to help them

they only have 5 divisions

[silk gust]

lol how

[drowsy arrow]

Why are there light tanks in infantry

[silk gust]

Idk I’m just using the premade template

I’ll change it soon

[drowsy arrow]

Remove 1 arti and add 2 inf and it will be good for China

[silk gust]

Okay thanks

[marsh ravine]

dont have that much line arty in all ur divs

it is too expensive

[silk gust]

Okay

[marsh ravine]

@heavy vigil whts the funni div again

[marsh ravine]

u should have 10-16 divs with like 2 arty rest inf, then rest 12w inf

[silk gust]

Okay

[marsh ravine]

and u use the 10-16 divs to push cos they crit china

[heavy vigil]

what

im busy

i found a way to go to war with france they guaranteed lithuania

[solar tundra]

how do i make germany democratic

[wind swift]

Appeal to their sense of social justice ⚖️

[merry relic]

any tips for fighting the Ethiopian war this was my first time

[solar tundra]

ive already taken over 40% of the world

Can i make the big german reich democratic

i puppeted the uk, annexed London, and liberated their colonies

[heavy vigil]

capped france

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/derpy-derpy-hooves-mlp-my-little-pony-clap-gif-15401120

[supple pelican]

How can you play war thunder and hoi4 at the same time

[warped flint]

I love getting achievements without trying

I didn't even assinate mussolini

[marsh ravine]

one of the best hoi4 players just at all plays hoi4 and wt at the same time every game iirc

lmao

just tab out of hoi4

not that much to do

[supple pelican]

That seems very off

[marsh ravine]

well this is like top 10?

just at all

[supple pelican]

Still they give me the creeps

[marsh ravine]

like ive seen them do it before

they jsut queue everything like mios etc

click what they need to when they need to

and go wt

then tab back to click something when they har alert

hear

[supple pelican]

Well

Maybe instead of wasting away on war thunder

They should make another tab of hou4

And play

[marsh ravine]

💀

[supple pelican]

At the same time

Isn’t that an idea

[marsh ravine]

well also not rly allowed in mp

cos u could be savegame checking

[supple pelican]

You could play two different multis

[marsh ravine]

💀

2 diff disc accs

for 2 diff vcs

[hoary mortar]

I gotta eep cya

[supple pelican]

Eliminate elite players?

[solar tundra]

America has only 5 divisions left

my American puppet took the other 60

[hoary mortar]

NUHUH

[supple pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-staring-suspicious-memes-gif-9038143639402170425

[warped flint]

uh

lots happend

Hungary attacked Romania as I invaded Poland, and they were getting their asses kicked, so I joined the war to help, not realizing they were at war with the french....

French were here by the time I noticed

and here when I finnaly stopped them

[wraith mauve]

Should I make the kaiser come back or military dictatorship

Anyone?

HELLO

[warped flint]

Militiary dictatorship

[wraith mauve]

Thank you

ooh communist Britain and France

and Russia is also non aligned

[heavy vigil]

imma go sleep

cant wait to do barb when i wake up

[warped flint]

rate my encirclement

[warped flint]

Are you just playing germany with only 10 divs?

[gusty oracle]

6/7

[dusky burrow]

Versialles mode

[heavy vigil]

10 inf divs without air and no more than 100K manpower deployed

Also like barely any navy

Which like i cant do czechs but otherwise its been pretty historical

Oh yeah the ussr is at war with the allies thats kinda bad

For historical stuff

[gusty oracle]

Ronald Regan

[marsh ravine]

Yeh bolshevik not communist

Isn't bolshevik just 1 bit

[warped flint]

Aren't they like very similar tho

[marsh ravine]

Iirc bolshevik is apart of communism

Like its 1 bit of it or whatever

I cant word properly

1 view of it

I think

So they oppose that view

[warped flint]

huh

THE FRENDCH GOT THE OCCUPATION AND GAVE IT TO THE

BRUH

[median fulcrum]

Hoi4 bordergore, a tale as old as time

[brittle cypress]

bolsheviks are communist but not all communists are bolsheviks

Like squares are a rectangle but rectangles are not a square

[merry relic]

When I attacked Ethiopia I had difficulty deploying my airforce.

[warped flint]

Whats a good amphibious tank design

[brittle cypress]

wdym

Just deploy them

[merry relic]

use them as air cover for my troops

[warped flint]

Heres what I got now. (ignore support companys I am to lazy atp)

[brittle cypress]

Where are the amphibious tanks

[warped flint]

Wait said that wrong

[brittle cypress]

Also bro u gotta pick better support companies for your tanks

[warped flint]

I mean just like a tank div that can work for naval invasion

[median fulcrum]

You mean deploy as CAS?

[warped flint]

😡

[brittle cypress]

Just get the 50% amphibious bonus by having enough amtracs

Not sure how many you need

Find the ratio

[warped flint]

fine

[brittle cypress]

Flame tank and field hospital at least

[ember parcel]

TANNU TUVA DLC TREE SPREAD THE WORD

[brittle cypress]

Then you can add rangers or something

Assault engineers

[warped flint]

I gotta research field hosp

[marsh ravine]

Lt recon

[merry relic]

yes and my fighters

[warped flint]

I can get flame tnak and assault engineers

[marsh ravine]

GG

[brittle cypress]

I don’t understand what you’re having issues with

[brittle cypress]

He’s making soft attack mediums

[marsh ravine]

Field hospital is the best company in game

[marsh ravine]

Yeh stack break go superstructure with heavy howi

[brittle cypress]

bru

who researches heavy howi

[marsh ravine]

Me.

[warped flint]

Think I did this right?

[brittle cypress]

Uh

That’s a lot more than I thought you’d need

The heck

[merry relic]

I'm just learning to play and am trying to figure it out.

[marsh ravine]

Cos its normal mediums and assault engineers not pioneers

[warped flint]

how do I get pioneers

[marsh ravine]

Marine doctrine

[cloud jolt]

yo guys, im just seeing that man the guns is free rn for some reason (im in england) is there some limited event or smth?

[brittle cypress]

It is being integrated into the basegame

Because paradox wants to release more dlcs

Based on the content of it

[cunning sorrel]

same as what they did for together for victory and waking the tiger

[cloud jolt]

yh but i thought they was doing that nov 20 when no compromise no surrender comes out

[brittle cypress]

Idk man they’re doing it now

[mild hazel]

they made man the guns free because youre already gonna pay for it in therapy <3

[median fulcrum]

That’s when it’s being fully integrated into the base game, as in no longer a separate dlc in launcher, no disabling it, stuff like that. It’s free now so people don’t waste money buying it before the integration date.

[cunning sorrel]

huh, will it no longer be a dlc in the launcher?

[median fulcrum]

I don’t believe so? Could be wrong but I don’t believe WTT DOD and TFV are either

[cunning sorrel]

yeah and that’s despite ncns completely overriding everything added by waking the tiger

i dont think it’ll no longer be a separate dlc like you said

[next wigeon]

Got a question. Is Line AA worth it? Does it just do more Air Attack than Support AA

[marsh ravine]

R u sp or mp

Sp sup aa should be enough

Mp do AA bricks they're op

[median fulcrum]

I’m feeling masochistic today, so I think I’m gonna torture myself by starting an Iraq run

[fair horizon]

did your iraq game end?

[warped flint]

The british invaded me for no reason

oh wait i remember why they did

still bullshit reason

[mild hazel]

goe moment

[dusky burrow]

30% fascism, right?

[warped flint]

Nope

I made sure I didn't have 30%

[fair horizon]

oil fields secured 😎 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (i couldnt find the british flag)

[dusky burrow]

Oh huh

[fair horizon]

nah i figured it out, they get a focus to delcare on you and iran so they have fuel for the royal navy

also like curacao and a couple others if certain conditions are met

[warped flint]

😡

[dusky burrow]

Well you can just join the Allies

That's typically what I do with Iran

[marsh ravine]

🇬🇧

[dusky burrow]

But with Iraq it's more questionable since you have cores all over Allied territories

[fair horizon]

i tried everything except gb

[mild hazel]

hell yeah brother🇬🇪

[warped flint]

I hope the united states flattens the united kingdom with nuclear bombs

[dusky burrow]

How will you invade the United States then

[fair horizon]

no can do, they're our friends 😡

[warped flint]

I will launch a coup against the governemnt

[dusky burrow]

Better a Hashemite king than Richard Nixon

[median fulcrum]

Ain’t that an issue with most GOE nations?

[warped flint]

And flatten the uk

Actually wait

[dusky burrow]

Afghanistan you can literally ask and then attack the Soviets if you're not on the communist path

[fair horizon]

issue with most minors tbhs

[warped flint]

ill give the uk to France

[fair horizon]

literally the monroe doctrine is the reason south america doesnt have to worry

[dusky burrow]

With Iran you can gain most of your territory by attacking neurtrals

India's a superpower

[median fulcrum]

I remember being able to do some expanding as Iran when I played with them, but that was right when GOE released, so idk how much it changed

[rain loom]

NOOOOOOO

[warped flint]

yes

[rain loom]

Pls don’t I don’t want to eat snails

I want to eat glorious British food like curry and naan

[limpid field]

Just heard the second patriotic war has ended
Rip the royal family of Russia🕊️

[wind swift]

when will they civil war 2?

is it just a chance once theyre under 50%?

or will it never happen if we're at war?

[toxic lotus]

How much is ur ping dawg

🥀

[next wigeon]

An AA brick is just a div full of AA and make sure it stays in the reserves in battle right?

[steel summit]

holy f i managed for the first time to form the roman empire as fascist italy

it took me till june 46

[random delta]

what kind of central powers is this?

[toxic lotus]

I can do it in 40 dawg

[toxic lotus]

Lol

[lost parcel]

interesting ruling party

[slow hazel]

hey can anyone teach me how to play please?

i just started playing the game and im a bit confused

[next wigeon]

No one knows how to play. Even people with 1000s of hours are still beginners 👀

[slow hazel]

well uhhhh

idk then just show me the ways

[next wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/jin-ghost-of-tsushima-jinsakai-gif-26781351

[eternal palm]

Are u saying that because you have thousands of hours are still shit

Don't make it out to be impossible, you'll grasp it in the first 1000 and then you just need to look in the correct spots for the correct information

[next wigeon]

Im joking obviously lol. Paradox is adding new mechanics all the time

[eternal palm]

If all your info is coming from YouTube and reddit I can't blame you for still being shit at the game

[eternal palm]

Once a year.

When a new dlc drops.

Is that too much for you lol

Bro they didn't an unplayable game

Hoi4 is fine

I dare to say easy

[fair horizon]

The colonel

[gilded smelt]

how do i improve my divisions org

[rain loom]

Question what happens if the soviets guarantee Czechoslovakia?

Do they still give in to German demands?

[indigo violet]

https://tenor.com/view/rammstein-rammqueens-gif-21313071

[indigo violet]

Radio

[fair horizon]

More infantry, motorized/mech/regular/special forces

[fair horizon]

I know how to do navy

[gilded smelt]

TEACH ME YOUR WAYS GOOD SAAR

[eternal palm]

Radio does not improve org

[eternal palm]

Make these

[gilded smelt]

what does?

[eternal palm]

Make these

[eternal palm]

More inf, mech, sf

[steel summit]

i have 110 h in hoi, im not great at the game sorry

i learnt the game without guides

[gilded smelt]

i'm using this rn

[eternal palm]

As u should.

U did the right thing

Most guides are full of shit

[steel summit]

i was just proud of getting the roman empire

[gilded smelt]

i learnt the game by playing hungary and not germany

so yeah...

[eternal palm]

Uhh go mass mob and this would be good. 20w is kinda ass

[lyric shell]

is this good

[steel summit]

just for a guy to complain and show off

[eternal palm]

U should be

[gilded smelt]

how should i improve

[eternal palm]

Yea pay no mind to them

[gilded smelt]

it

[steel summit]

i rlly like hungaries tree

[eternal palm]

They're not real peoppe

U did great

[steel summit]

also 1 question, whats the best air doctrine?

i use mostly the middle one but sometimes i go left

[eternal palm]

...go mass assault right side

[gilded smelt]

but i wanna do gb 😭

[eternal palm]

Middle is fine. If you still need to win the air war, like if u are heavily outnumbered, do the left one

[gilded smelt]

also it's already 1941

[eternal palm]

Well then reduce width to 16

[steel summit]

i had air superiority for most of the game

[eternal palm]

20w is ass

[eternal palm]

Ye then middle is fine

[gilded smelt]

?

[steel summit]

i used 36 n 40 cas n fighters

[eternal palm]

Yessss

[steel summit]

n medium airframes for naval bombers coz i had to deal with the british navy

[eternal palm]

That's insane

I wouldn't have thought u would know stuff like that

Good for you

[gilded smelt]

my blob is slowly getting bigger

[gilded smelt]

and i'm getting better at combat because i think i understand stuff now

only land though lol i ain't touching navy or air as congo

and i'd say that's for the best

on my way into mozambique rn

[steel summit]

am i supposed to bomb them with light airframes?

[eternal palm]

Oh no not at all. Check the design I sent above

I thought you were doing that

[steel summit]

its quite simillar to quite i used

[eternal palm]

Good.

[steel summit]

but with 4 heavy machine guns instead of 2

[eternal palm]

Ye difference is small

[steel summit]

oh ok

also should i use 44 fighters or stick to 40 airframe?

i think its better to stick with the older ones so i dont lose production

[eternal palm]

Stick to 1940

There is like a single instance in which f3 is good, and that is on any nation with the range designer. They can do triple armor plate with cannon 2 and e4 like this

[untold prawn]

What is a good defensive division for infantry and a good division for offensive armor?

[eternal palm]

Very niche but very good

[unborn ferry]

Hi, beginner question for planes, so I'm basically focused on close air support, is it a good idea, and how do I make the best varient? thanks (I am with Italy btw)

[eternal palm]

Italy is a special case, they can make this from day 1

[misty fossil]

you need more planes

tanks are irrelevant

[eternal palm]

Later you can upgrade to this

[misty fossil]

the russians spit out a LOT of planes during the 1st european war

[gilded smelt]

my division org is killing me again

i can't fight

[misty fossil]

why strategic materials

does agility only matter

[eternal palm]

Cuz cas in green air doesn't cars about air defense

[lost parcel]

kill it back

[misty fossil]

really

[eternal palm]

It doesn't for cas?

[gilded smelt]

?

[misty fossil]

i mean is agility the only stat that matters for cas

[gilded smelt]

oh and i can't build railways

[eternal palm]

Well aa ignores air defense and why need air defense when you have green anyway

[gilded smelt]

because they're continously attacking

[eternal palm]

Can be removed and still be good, it doesn't matter really

[misty fossil]

aa ignores air defence??

https://tenor.com/view/biden-dance-stare-clueless-gif-7881725227341402421

[eternal palm]

No clue. Haven't thought about that much

All I see is unga bunga ground attack

[misty fossil]

it definitely is the case for naval bombers/cas

[eternal palm]

Yes?

How did u not know that kek

[misty fossil]

no way

because i never cared

[untold prawn]

Does this need DLCs because I dont have any

[misty fossil]

yes

thats no step back i think

[eternal palm]

Oh ye it does. Then just make the best cas available to you. Make sure to upgrade it too

[misty fossil]

you might as well not buy hoi4 if you only want to buy the base game

[eternal palm]

Bba

Nsb was the tank dlc

[misty fossil]

oh

forget it

what does AAT give

[gilded smelt]

is 18 divs in one tile too much#

should i pull them back

[eternal palm]

Sf doctrines

And market

[misty fossil]

depends on your spully

supply

[gilded smelt]

orange

[eternal palm]

He's congo

[untold prawn]

Do you have any other divisions that doesnt use DLC?

[misty fossil]

special forces isnt in base game??????

WHAT

[eternal palm]

Prob not sorry

[eternal palm]

The doctrines aren't

Sf by itself is

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/biden-dance-stare-clueless-gif-7881725227341402421

im dumbfounded

[untold prawn]

Thanks a lot anyways, I will give it a try

[misty fossil]

late stage capitalism and its consequences on the human race................

[eternal palm]

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

• Santa Claus

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-bride-dizzying-intellect-sarcasm-gif-11786403

[gilded smelt]

i'

am staying up to date with gun tech

[misty fossil]

hi staying up to date with gun tech, im dad

[eternal palm]

Noooo

[misty fossil]

make sure to drink your milk and read the tooltip everyday

[gilded smelt]

i steamrolled portugal in angola

idk what's goin on

[misty fossil]

good

\now portugal will join the allies and you will die

can you naval invade portugal

[gilded smelt]

i'm not in the axis

[misty fossil]

countries will just join a faction when world tension reaches 100%

happens to everyone

[gilded smelt]

might be cooked

[misty fossil]

@eternal palm is it true though

my last japan playthrough they definitely joined the allies right after i declared on them

[eternal palm]

Generally yes. But it's mostly democratic nations joining the allies

[gilded smelt]

portugal is non aligned we're safe chat

[misty fossil]

i did snap a pic but i had to cap portugal after the uk fell

for some reason the non aligned countries that joined the allies had to be dealt with in a separate peace deal

but portugal did join the allies

is there a way to do pearl harbour as japan in vanilla?

[eternal palm]

It's close enough

[misty fossil]

nah do a strike on pearl harbour with your fleet then the us declares war against you

so the us is somehow in an offensive war, totally the way it worked irl

[shut lynx]

this took WAYYYYY too long to do

[slow nova]

Good job...

All dlcs???

[shut lynx]

yuppppp, tho had to revert to an old version for the bugged achievement ;/

[misty fossil]

now ask yourself if it's worth it

[shut lynx]

i already know the answer to this

[misty fossil]

no

congrats

[shut lynx]

tho most do come with just playing i will say

[finite valley]

Does anyone know how not to kill thukov during purge ?

[misty fossil]

purge him yourself

who's thukov?

[finite valley]

Zhukov

I made typo

[misty fossil]

oh

how did you lose him anyway

[eternal palm]

Just click the other guy?

[shut lynx]

there should be an option to not kill him when it pops i thought, when compared to another general

[misty fossil]

just reload to an early save

yes

[eternal palm]

Also zhukov doesn't really matter like at all

Unless you wanna go mass mob

But really you can kill him

And I do it

[finite valley]

Its not something I can choose in pop up decision

[shut lynx]

he is a pretty decent general for tanks

[eternal palm]

What?

[misty fossil]

or maybe he didnt care to check the paranoia mechanic and paid the price for it

[finite valley]

Once I do that thing with trials in focus three

He and tukhachevsky die

[misty fossil]

what

thats false

[finite valley]

No matter how much time I reload save

[eternal palm]

You just grind Kusnetsov lol

Who needs zhukov

[misty fossil]

third moscow trial doesnt kill zhukov

[eternal palm]

Wait how many generals did u kill before that?

[finite valley]

I destroyed japan with zhukov, I want to keeo him

[finite valley]

I think only one

[eternal palm]

Insane unlucky rng then the fk?

[misty fossil]

kutsnetsov enjoyer

[eternal palm]

I played the soviets for close to 2k hours and never had this happen

[misty fossil]

bro didnt do the paranoia decisions

and stalin decided to kill zhukov

[finite valley]

Its also shit that I csnt save tukhachevsky

He was a good guy

[misty fossil]

tukhachevsky is cooked

[eternal palm]

Wait you went to war with Japan??? 😭

[misty fossil]

if you want to keep him get rid of stalin

[finite valley]

I know

[finite valley]

Yea

[eternal palm]

😭

[misty fossil]

bro went to war with japan

[eternal palm]

You run is cooked

Restart now

[finite valley]

I do it every time to finish lessons of war earlier

[misty fossil]

have fun dealing with germany

[eternal palm]

😭 😭 😭

It's so over bro

[finite valley]

Why?

I also destroy turkey once they remilitarize istanbul

And I get bonus romania

I do it every time

[eternal palm]

Lemme do my set I'll explain

[finite valley]

Japan and its puppets and turkey and romania

It is perfect

[misty fossil]

well if you also managed to kill the nazis that would be cool

[finite valley]

Of course I will

Look at my template

[valid prairie]

When are they dropping the dlc

[misty fossil]

but have you

[valid prairie]

I can’t wait

[misty fossil]

Q1 2026

[valid prairie]

Bruh

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/omerrv-snip-snipping-supertool-gif-19434006

[eternal palm]

Ok so basically, you know how u have ur eco branch right. Its kind of insane. You can get tools 5 in 1940 and tools, conc and construction 4 all in 1939. It's insane for production. However, if you go to war with a major you're permanently locked out of that branch. And I really don't know if Japan is worth not having 25% more effi cap

[eternal palm]

😭

Just make it 36w twin

[finite valley]

I finished that part before attacking japan

[eternal palm]

28w is ass

[eternal palm]

What year was this?

[misty fossil]

make it 67 width

[finite valley]

I dont know all that w and h things

[misty fossil]

1952

[eternal palm]

Combat width.

[finite valley]

Right now its 1939

[eternal palm]

😭

[misty fossil]

hes baiting you

[eternal palm]

Bro used the year ahead penalty bonus on tools 4 😭

[finite valley]

Does it matter in what order I out them if they are all same type of battalion?

[misty fossil]

yes?

[eternal palm]

Uh yeah?

Do u know what it does?

[misty fossil]

my brother in christ

[finite valley]

I built many factories

And finished that thing

[eternal palm]

Debating if this is bait or not

[misty fossil]

how many hours do you have

[fair horizon]

Too expensive for a bb ngl, could literally just do gun engine and armor and call it a day since you'd just be using them for navam supremacy

[misty fossil]

prolly not he seems genuinely clueless

[eternal palm]

Not these ones

[finite valley]

And after I finished japan I finished resotarion and development

[eternal palm]

If I would do sup spam I would've said so

Also the carrier design is literally for sup spam

[fair horizon]

Fair enough but id still drop a gun since the only reason you'd build a bb is for carrier screening

[misty fossil]

@finite valley

[eternal palm]

Also wrong

[fair horizon]

Not

[eternal palm]

Dude we have different goals here

Don't try to impose yours on me

[misty fossil]

just play modded navy bro

[eternal palm]

I know what I'm doing

[fair horizon]

Carriers do more damage to enemy capitals

[misty fossil]

vanilla navy sucks

billions must play modded navy

[eternal palm]

That is correct. But thats not the only job that bbs do

[finite valley]

I see

Is this better

[fair horizon]

Gun is expensive, waste the IC on more hangar space

[eternal palm]

Again, different goals 🤷‍♂️

[eternal palm]

I'm not trying to do sup spam

[eternal palm]

This isnt even for sp

Those are mp designs

[misty fossil]

get on my level

[fair horizon]

What goal is different? Win the naval battle and have supremacy?

[misty fossil]

its more complicated that following rigid designs

[eternal palm]

Those are 2 different things. Im trying to kill a navy, you're trying to win supremacy

[finite valley]

So what do I do than

[misty fossil]

you have to understand why people use 36w infantry and 36 tanks

i honestly dont know because i think i need to explain a lot

[fair horizon]

You'll kill the navy just as fast with carriers and 1 less gun on a bb

[misty fossil]

hold on

[eternal palm]

🤓

Bro are you trying to explain the game to me?

I did not ask

[fair horizon]

Since its going to come down to screening efficiency

Im explaining why you're wasting IC

[misty fossil]

go to #ask-for-help-here, go to pinned and read every single guide in it

[finite valley]

Thank you lil bro

[misty fossil]

not gonna repeat what others have done

cheers sorry thats the best i can do though

[finite valley]

You helped

But this thing with zhukov is really pissing me off

[misty fossil]

just do a new game

lol

or load a prior save if you have it

[finite valley]

Hell nah man

[misty fossil]

or grind kutznetsov in the spanish civil war... in 1937

[finite valley]

Thats the problem

Game still kills him

[finite valley]

Already did it