hoi4-general

[raw karma]

Its literally a joke relative to literally everything else historically

[hearty mist]

we study history very extensively, but we spend a lot of time on World War II in grades 9-11. (yes, we have 11 grades in total)

[terse skiff]

it's not about the dead count

[errant remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/oversimplified-french-revolution-guillotine-robespierre-maximilien-robespierre-gif-8081297201075743631

[terse skiff]

this isn't a hoi4 game

it's about the people involved

[warped flint]

Is there anything I can do to destroy czechoslovakia early game as Hungary

[terse skiff]

that's why we all talk about the le terror but not a lot about the farmer revolts during the french revolution

[fair horizon]

encircle their units

[hearty mist]

And we have a lot of anti-Sovietism

[dusky burrow]

I don't think so tbh

Especially like that

[raw karma]

Dude here literally 90% of my classmates wouldnt even know what a nato or Warsaw pact is

[hearty mist]

IN RUSSIA BRUH

[raw karma]

Or even what a rhineland is

As a matter of fact

[inner ocean]

Bout to spark up and have some fun with this game

[hearty mist]

I envy you because your school cafeteria food is good.

[hearty mist]

ОООООО ДААААА ОБОЖАЮ ЭТУ ДРИСНЮ

[terse skiff]

i know we're in a hoi4 server but before you start naming some place 5000 km away, plz first know your neighbors and communities well, that will do more to you than knowing how to say achtung

[raw karma]

For history hobbyists its a nightmare

[hearty mist]

there are no words in the English lexicon to describe it...

[inner ocean]

You dont know shite cafeteria food until youve had it at an American public school;

[wet plover]

American school food is specially notorious for being bad

[terse skiff]

yeah you can thank our property tax system for it

[terse skiff]

or even worse the fascist prop 13 in california

[misty fossil]

yall have food in school?

[hearty mist]

IT IS BAD????????!!!!!!!!!!

[fair horizon]

thats better than they served us lmao

[misty fossil]

they didnt serve us food in hs where i went to

[inner ocean]

Apparently its worse than prison food here

or the same

[terse skiff]

the fruit is canned

[misty fossil]

i had to buy it the whole way

[inner ocean]

like they get the same products

I never ate it

[tardy marten]

High school food here sometimes making students sick

[misty fossil]

diabetes by 25 speedrun

[hearty mist]

I ONLY EAT THIS ON HOLIDAYS

[wet plover]

For the most part yeah

[misty fossil]

peak

What country

im vietnamese

[tardy marten]

Big boi, your neighbor

[raw karma]

Dude but US history classes are nightmares for hobbyists and people ahead of the curriculum taught

[misty fossil]

china

[tardy marten]

Guess

[misty fossil]

real

[inner ocean]

its supposed to be healthy but thats just a joke

[tardy marten]

Nah, I mean Indonesia

[misty fossil]

stop trying to rename us to xiaozhi

[wet plover]

My school is actually pretty good tho, surprisingly

[hearty mist]

I see

[misty fossil]

oh okay

[tardy marten]

Big boi of southeast asia

[raw karma]

Would you understand the struggle?

[dusky burrow]

Yeah US history classes miss alot

[terse skiff]

obama's wife wanted to make kids eat more veggies and the republicans lost their minds over that

[tardy marten]

Indonesia school meals is not the best, the government kinda corrupt

[inner ocean]

fr I was so bored because everything was just surface level shi

[dusky burrow]

Does anyone know what happened in the 1880s?

[hearty mist]

I saw a video about your program.

[inner ocean]

reconstruction

[raw karma]

Are you doxxing me or sum?

[misty fossil]

same in vietnam

[dusky burrow]

Nope

[misty fossil]

its boring

[terse skiff]

no reconstruction ended in 1876

[misty fossil]

keeps glazing the vcp

[dusky burrow]

That happened from 1865-1876

[terse skiff]

if you're talking about reconstruction era in usa

[inner ocean]

ah but the tensions were still high no?

when was the klan formed?

[terse skiff]

yeah, reconstruction ended because tensions were high and northern republicans gave up on the program

there were three klans

1880s was the original klan

in the American south the first black politicians were elected in the 1860-1870s and then the next ones were only elected in the 1970s

[hearty mist]

I'm sorry for the Russian but... Я БЛЯДЬ НЕ ПОНИМАЮ, ВЫ ЕДИТЕ ТАКУЮ АХУЕННУЮ ЕДУ, БУРГЕРЫ-ХУЮРГЕРЫ, И НАЗЫВАЕТЕ ЭТО ДЕРЬМОМ?!
НА ФОТО НЕ ПОНОС, ЭТО ЕДА В ШКОЛЬНЫХ СТОЛОВЫХ РОССИИ

[raw karma]

And people here seems to think Iosif was Russian and not Kavkaz

[inner ocean]

They should have executed the leaders of the south and then they should have tried to lift the south out of poverty and really improve their material conditions to help them move past their racism and to show that the north was generous, I heard pro secession congressmen got their jobs back after the war like wtf were we doing

[hearty mist]

💀

[hearty mist]

He is Georgian

[inner ocean]

kinda looks like some good comfy winter food

(except the image on the left)

[raw karma]

Georgian= Caucasian= Kavkaz etc

[hearty mist]

bruh

[raw karma]

Or is it more nuanced?

[merry sequoia]

Any tips on how to Eastern front Soviets with Germany by (ideally 1938 if not 1939)

[terse skiff]

Abe Lincoln was a moderate Republican who was okay with letting the south getting away relatively free. When he was assassinated, his 19th century Dem VP was a staunch conservative that just let the south do whatever they wanted.

[hearty mist]

I clarified

[merry sequoia]

Bc I own poland

[terse skiff]

but yes all slave owners should have been executed, as any of the Sherman's boys figured out when they marched into Atlanta

[inner ocean]

Are school lunches at least free in Russia? (They arent in the US but they are in most other nations)

[inner ocean]

I agree, and the poor should have been uplifted, poor African-Americans and White Southerners

[tardy marten]

Wait I can kill Zhukov as Stalin Soviet?

[hearty mist]

there are paid and free ones. the paid ones have slightly better food

[terse skiff]

yes if stalin is getting too paranoid

[tardy marten]

Bruh, my boy Zhukov died by Stalin, his paranoia is too much

[inner ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/zhukov-gif-20082782

[tardy marten]

I almost killed him as my first soviet historical gameplay

[dusky burrow]

beef stew and mashed potatoes?

[tardy marten]

Literally

[inner ocean]

thats nice

[terse wigeon]

am i accidentally using mods because what the hell is that thing

[inner ocean]

At least some are free

[dusky burrow]

That's vanilla

Kosmidis is just like that

[terse wigeon]

why does he look like that

[inner ocean]

Gives people that need food an oppertunity to be fed

Unlike America

[terse skiff]

meanwhile irl all the Confederate lowlives who whitewashed their reputation are now considered the Great Men of the South while the Confederate leaders who repented and tried to help the Government do Reconstruction are slandered as traitors

[warped flint]

Whos weaker, Romania or Czechoslovakia

[inner ocean]

yea we really botched the whole thing and the effects from it are clearly still seen today

[hearty mist]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1178738224689070140/1270111493622599753/1667901867812.gif

[inner ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-yump-jump-bounce-excited-gif-8354929291245656896

[tardy marten]

He looks like some ww1 soldier suddenly become facist Greek leader

[hearty mist]

Is Rickroll still relevant in the West?

[inner ocean]

Not anymore, people will call you an unc if you rick roll

[nova rune]

unc

https://tenor.com/view/brock-lesnar-scream-if-you-love-venezuela-vzla-wwe-gif-12077502882913542184

[inner ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/did-unc-snap-gif-6586152468706719040

[hearty mist]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-20035041

[nova rune]

41 but i got 41 goals

[nova rune]

what does this mean

[hearty mist]

just meme

[terse skiff]

I never heard that happen in any other country yikes

[nova rune]

yall know what time it is

[warped flint]

?

[inner ocean]

Uh, forty-one, but I got forty-one goons

[tardy marten]

My soldiers walking very slowly at wasteland of soviet

[hearty mist]

Which memes are relevant to you?

[tardy marten]

Red supply

[tardy marten]

"I'm tired boss... "
-my infantry division at eastern urals

[dusky burrow]

tiring indeed

[nova rune]

real

[terse skiff]

just get collab govs

[nova rune]

they didnt have ipads back then so it was worse 😔

[tardy marten]

I know, but I like to be more challenging for myself

I can imagine their stomach is empty, walk very slowly, and still fight starving Soviet infantry

Both infantry starving to death and still battle happening

[warped flint]

Whos weaker, Czechiaoslovakia or Romania

[hearty mist]

Why aren't there any rules about Nazism?

[tardy marten]

1938 Czech are somewhat even against German before Munich

[fair horizon]

wym?

[tardy marten]

It's just they will lose on long run

[nova rune]

i know how to win ANY singleplayer game in just 15 minutes

console > research all > it > ic >

[hearty mist]

shouldn't it be banned and everything related to it?

[fair horizon]

i mean theres a rule against it

[hearty mist]

So I didn't see it

[nova rune]

one thing that i like about the chick fila pickle bun sandwich

is the pickle

and the bun

[terse skiff]

no controversial, i think that's what naziism is included in. After all it's hoi4 so you can't ban all mentioning about Nazis

[valid prairie]

Hello guys

What’s up

[terse skiff]

Hello did you touch grass today

[valid prairie]

Hoi4 is the capital of all Nazis in the entire world

[valid prairie]

I did

I’m currently outside doing mechanic work

[glass adder]

Are there any other girls that play hoi4 here?

[terse skiff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/wmzvv0/does_any_woman_actually_play_hoi4/

i mean

bokoen does crossdress sometimes

[valid prairie]

Strategy games as a whole are a more male orientated activity

[hearty mist]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1150749739248255058/1226190742666350592/attachment.gif

[tardy marten]

Most females here playing 3 match games

[dusky burrow]

annex all

[glass adder]

Yeah thats why im actively looking for other girls 😭

[tardy marten]

Or, deepscape

Or they not even playing games, just playing tiktok and dancing

[fair horizon]

nice try we hoi4 players know girls dont exist

[glass adder]

What are you even saying man?

[tardy marten]

They like dancing

[tardy marten]

Who's at center

[glass adder]

What do men like?

[valid prairie]

Fair enough

[tardy marten]

Women

[terse skiff]

the Austrian

[tardy marten]

Kinda right, it's just his inner circle

[terse skiff]

the genius of Austria is making us think Hitler is German and Beethoven is Austrian

[hearty mist]

https://tenor.com/view/kumiko-oumae-walter-white-hands-up-you-got-me-hibike-gif-7390393797069899575

[fair horizon]

waltuh

[hearty mist]

cool gif

[valid prairie]

Austria started both world wars smh

I wonder if they’ll go 3 for 3

[terse skiff]

and they also started 30 years war and 80 years war

something sus about Vienna

[valid prairie]

Zamn bro world antagonists

[fair horizon]

USA won both of them 😎

[terse skiff]

it seems like the chin genes have spread to more Austrians than intended

[tardy marten]

Danzig for Slovakia
Befriend Poland
And historical focus after that

[valid prairie]

Switzerland won both of them

[fair horizon]

Poland ❤️

[valid prairie]

Lmao

[tardy marten]

Poor Slovakia have Poland as leader

[terse skiff]

yeah they got a lot of gold from the wars

[tardy marten]

and then Hungary demand Slovakia

[fair horizon]

and then hungary died

[hearty mist]

In short, I have 4:33 (UTC+3) and I'm going to bed

[fair horizon]

nobody hurts poland

[sonic sand]

OH MY GOD GERMANY JUST GIVE UP ALREADY

[valid prairie]

Playing both sides is an ultra Strat for making crap loads of money

[sonic sand]

IT IS NOT THAT DEEP

[valid prairie]

The actual combatants rarely make as much profit

[sonic sand]

YOU AREN'T WINNING THIS

[tardy marten]

Ribbentrop Beck pact is something I'll try as German gameplay

[terse skiff]

sounds like 1980s China selling arms to both Iran or Iraq

[valid prairie]

What about Steiners counter attack?

[fair horizon]

germany sweep

[sonic sand]

They're just last standing

[valid prairie]

Precisely. It happens all the time

[valid prairie]

Yeah because the wubderwaffen will save them bro

Trust

[terse skiff]

Mein fuher ...

Steiner ...

[valid prairie]

Lmaooo

On an unrelated note, why is line arty hated so much

Whenever I use it I win

[inner ocean]

memes suck now its all brain rot

pure bliss

[tardy marten]

UK has 99% towards capitulation
I encircled the Edinburgh, last capital
Press offer peace to Churchill
"Didn't accept it, the war rages on!! "

[inner ocean]

my divs are finally motorized

and they are quick

[valid prairie]

Nice bro

Good soft attack

[dusky burrow]

15kmh motorized?

[inner ocean]

yes its to do with the tech mod

[dusky burrow]

tech mod?

[terse skiff]

because it sucks, 3 width so low soft attack/width ratio especially when considering you can customize tanks to have like 50 soft attack with 10 cost

[inner ocean]

ultimate tech tree

[fair horizon]

lore accurate trucks

[inner ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/ford-jump-gif-13001104

[valid prairie]

I usually play Chinese nations so they serve the role of tanks before I get them

[fair horizon]

expensive for not that good of stats

[inner ocean]

how my divs be moving

[terse skiff]

just get a close support gun inter war chassis tank if you play kmt

[valid prairie]

And like if I add them on my mountaineer divs they get like 400 soft attack

[valid prairie]

I play warlords lol

[terse skiff]

the extra armor and hardness makes the extra cost so much more worth it

[valid prairie]

Well that would make it a space marine div right?

[fair horizon]

automatic cannon is better

[valid prairie]

And most of the time I don’t have the ic to separately make tanks

I can make arty to serve as support company too so that’s why I build a lot of it

[terse skiff]

yet you have ic to make artillery guns with 0 hp and armor

[valid prairie]

Dual purpose

[fair horizon]

you really only need a few factories for arty support

[terse skiff]

you don't need line artillery, just add tanks to your divisions instead of artillery

[brazen flint]

I love Hoi4

[terse skiff]

arty support is great but line artillery is a f tier

[valid prairie]

Ok what template then

[terse skiff]

10 inf 8 tanks

[valid prairie]

I can def agree with first part

[terse skiff]

or whatever template you like

[valid prairie]

Oh I meant design

Mb

[dusky burrow]

For china SFP 12-widths with line artillery, super-heavy artillery, rocket artillery, AA, and flame tank should be what you do

[terse skiff]

if you're china, just get cheapest tank with a soft attack gun

and flame tanks too

[valid prairie]

I always go spf so yes but that’s so much tech

I only get land warfare facility like 1941

[fair horizon]

spf mains when mobile warfare chads run them down

[valid prairie]

Mobile warfare chads when

Uhh

They die

Because spf is better

[terse skiff]

mw sucks

[valid prairie]

Fr

[fair horizon]

im speedpilled, im breakthroughmaxxing

[tardy marten]

GBP left

[valid prairie]

I’m mountaineer maxxing

[terse skiff]

in sp you need soft attack, in mp you need piercing and armor

[tardy marten]

Mass mob right

[fair horizon]

i refuse to listen to this propaganda against mobile warfare

[valid prairie]

Vendrip I’m not mad just disappointed

Come to the light my brother

[terse skiff]

mw just adds org to tanks

[fair horizon]

Embrace the future my friends

overrun the enemy with your speed

[terse skiff]

7 day rail conversion says hello

[hoary mortar]

naval bombers with 2 torpedoes?

[inner ocean]

so many factories idk what to do with them! (I use core states mod so thats why theres so many)

[fair horizon]

more boats

[valid prairie]

Build lots of supply hubs

[dusky burrow]

Something

[valid prairie]

They are very handy

[dusky burrow]

Just make sure you have the resources

More boats is always helpful

[fair horizon]

always more boats

[tardy marten]

More boats

[fair horizon]

let your mainland forces suffer for more boats

[inner ocean]

I shall invest in boats then

[dusky burrow]

#hoi4-general message

[uncut pollen]

Come on come on come on

[terse skiff]

radical party leon blum 💀

[opal nymph]

France Leads being successful?!

Impossible

[hoary mortar]

Ooh thanks! is the littorio a battleship

[uncut pollen]

Im Not getting Support from the UK so

Its useless

[tardy marten]

Italy refuse stressa front

[opal nymph]

F

[remote quarry]

torpedo 2

the tech

[tardy marten]

[valid prairie]

Does double force attacking work and is it worth it

[hoary mortar]

aah lol

[remote quarry]

you should put 1 factory on basic carrier fighter day 1 that you can later convert to torp 2 navs

[terse wigeon]

oh how i reap the rewards of tears

[uncut pollen]

UK did

[tardy marten]

Yeah, but not Italy

Sometimes

Little entente > France leads

Little entente, more like crippled entente covering both German democratic and Russia democratic

[hoary mortar]

im 100% starting the war late. I have so much to redesign

[dusky burrow]

PUERTO RICO A STATE!!!

[uncut pollen]

Italy refused

Rn

[opal nymph]

Stressa Front as France:

Stressa Front as Italy:

[tardy marten]

Italy can have wild ride toward his expansion with UK backing

Churchill kick Italy
Labeled Italy as traitors

Huh, wth game

[ancient marsh]

total stressa front collapse

[eternal acorn]

make nuclear weapons

[ancient marsh]

paradrop paris

cross the channel

restore rome then flip to democracy

[opal nymph]

Well, you can flip democratic first

Then invade everyone

Italy can do that

[ancient marsh]

only monarchist

unless advisors

[opal nymph]

True

[tardy marten]

Italy also can declare war on democratic nations as democraric ideology

[opal nymph]

Christian Democracy Italy is fun

Formed Rome as them

[ancient marsh]

christian democracy vs christian theocracy

🤔

[opal nymph]

Democratic

No Elections

[ancient marsh]

a hoi4 classic

[inner ocean]

ARRRRRGGGGG

[tardy marten]

Idk why but those Chinese warlords leading all ideology party

Li Zongren

[opal nymph]

It is the percentage they agree with an ideology

And advisor convinces them that one ideology is better 0.1% a day

[tardy marten]

damnit, what your ideology man?

"I'm open minded to any ideology, as long I'm in charge"
-li Zongren

[hoary mortar]

how many carrier lines should I be making rn

[opal nymph]

4 carriers makes a task force

But you also need 4 other capitals and 24 screens

[terse skiff]

a shiny beacon of european democracy to deport hungarians vibe

[opal nymph]

I wonder how many people know that is from TWR

[terse skiff]

tbh if you know that mod you should stop playing hoi4 and go outside

[tardy marten]

Play irl hoi4 mod

[dusky burrow]

that doesn't stop you from knowing what twr is

[tardy marten]

Because go shower is exclusive with playing hoi4

I need to hire democratic advisor irl

[terse skiff]

isn't there a hoi4 mod where the game tells you to do unthinkable things such as go to the toilet and take a shower?

[hoary mortar]

wtf is UK doing

[tardy marten]

He said he will fight on the beaches

[dusky burrow]

28 dockyards and 36 civs

seriously UK?

[warped flint]

Should 1 army of infantry be enough to beat Czechoslovakia

[dusky burrow]

What year is it btw

[dusky burrow]

Do they have guarantees

[warped flint]

Oh shit almost forgout about that lol

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

[warped flint]

Isn't there a time where they lose those

for a lil

[tardy marten]

🤚

[terse skiff]

after sudetenland?

[dusky burrow]

post-Sudetenland crisis

That's when you attack

[terse skiff]

but you do lose sudetenland, which has infantry and forts

[hoary mortar]

insanity

[dusky burrow]

That makes more sense

[hoary mortar]

Yeah. im just building carriers

i'll start the war in 1940

[tardy marten]

Never expand interwar as German
Turn every mills to civs
Civilian economy, free trade
UK has declare war on german

Still happen not sure why

[uncut pollen]

THE UK JUST GARANTEAD ME

I HAT MY LIFE

[dusky burrow]

You sure it's not the Soviets?

[tardy marten]

Nah

[dusky burrow]

That's good

[hoary mortar]

i KEEPF ORGETITNG TOH IT THE HILFKREUZER BUTTON

[tardy marten]

UK has focus on declare war on german

[dusky burrow]

That means you can declare war on anyone the UK guarantees

I see

[tardy marten]

UK really hates German, they even have it's own focus to war

Fdr hates German despite democratic german

[warped flint]

Germany just took the sudeten land

I am doing the focus now

[uncut pollen]

Nope that means Germany is soon going to war with me

[terse skiff]

did someone find a new tea plant in germany, why is uk trying to dec on germany

[tardy marten]

Not expanding, I'm just using economy focus

[dusky burrow]

Ah you're Poland

[warped flint]

?

[uncut pollen]

Im france

[tardy marten]

Pure Peace Hitler gameplay

[dusky burrow]

If you're France you should have nothing to worry about when fighting Germany

[warped flint]

Im talking about my own game

[tardy marten]

I see

[dusky burrow]

You should actually be capable of pushing Rhineland

[uncut pollen]

Brother you know what happend to France in ww2?

[tardy marten]

Just stay at Maginot line, I'm sure German won't do anything funny at lowlands...

[runic briar]

never got the damn navy coup

[uncut pollen]

It prob will

[dusky burrow]

I know what happened, the French armored corps rolled through all the way to the Rhine and took Mainz before the Germans overran the Netherlands and Belgium, stopping just short of Paris in a miraculous Battle of the Marine

And then the Germans ran out of steam, got encircled, and lost everything up to the Weser

[uncut pollen]

THEY EVEN SPLITT SLOVAKIA WITH DEMOCRATIC HUNGARY

[dusky burrow]

Is that not what happens to France in HOI4?

[warped flint]

Shit I expected them to be defensive

[dusky burrow]

Didn't the French have 5000 Char 2Bs in 15 elite armored divisions?

[uncut pollen]

I Just got scared bc i tought someone was talking to me

[dusky burrow]

I swear they did

[uncut pollen]

Idk

[uncut pollen]

It was my music Expansion

[inner ocean]

First time ive seen the Ottomans survive

https://tenor.com/view/godfrey-g-golden-gleeks-gleek-gleek-party-green-gif-13234586700244969773

[dusky burrow]

I'm sure you guys heard of the Franco-Japanese war, where Japan demanded the French to let Japan station troops in Indochina and close trade with China

[warped flint]

I am debating on if I should retreat from the encircle ment in the west, don't know if I can hold it

[nova rune]

Holy peak

[dusky burrow]

Prime Minister Laval took the fight to Japan, invaded Kyushu, and seized Tokyo in the largest amphibious operation in history

Who could possibly not know this

[dusky burrow]

Last stand if you have to, but keep the encirclement for sure

[warped flint]

Bubbles turned green luckily

[dusky burrow]

The very concepts of Germany and Japan have been vanquished from the earth

And Italy

[warped flint]

Why do I feel so good after just using basic microing

I feel powerfull

[runic briar]

10 years felt fast

[warped flint]

Germanys joined

[dusky burrow]

Wait which focuses have you done btw

[inner ocean]

Italian hell (the Green is Australia)

[dusky burrow]

Ah okay

Let me check the pannonian socialist focus

[uncut pollen]

I want to Attack so badly

[warped flint]

Does France give up their gurantee on Romania ever

[inner ocean]

Radar grid has been completed

built on the borders and costal tiles

[dusky burrow]

Oh okay I see so I think your priority in this peace deal is taking over any parts of Slovakia Germany wants to take. Second would be Bohemia and Moravia. If Germany decides to change government on any part of Slovakia that's fine

[dusky burrow]

Yes

[warped flint]

I did get all of slovakia luckily

uh i tried to get moravia and that um

[dusky burrow]

Ooh free land to reinvade

[warped flint]

Wish I had pp

[dusky burrow]

RIP

[warped flint]

I had to deal with strikes during the war

and I got this guy tho

builds my stab up a bit

[sonic sand]

Interesting 🤔

[dusky burrow]

ooh weekly stability

[sonic sand]

Small Slovakia

[sonic sand]

Bro can see the future.

[warped flint]

im not gonna do a focus just to build some pp to invade them

[terse wigeon]

is this how the AI gets around forts 😭

[sonic sand]

There is one

One tile

[warped flint]

I want to get romania but uh

lots of divisions...

[sonic sand]

That has no forts

[sonic sand]

There is one tile with no forts on it

[sonic sand]

Welcome to playing Hungary

Romania

Beats your ass

Yugoslavia

Beats your ass

Czechoslovakia

Beats your ass

Italy

Beats your ass

And the soviets

Beat your ass

@warped flint

[dusky burrow]

Czechs are fortunately down

[sonic sand]

Peak

[inner ocean]

I forgot this dude was still around in exile lol

[dusky burrow]

guy is turning democratic lmao

[terse wigeon]

i think its joever

[warped flint]

No I destryoyed czechoslovakia

Like abused them

[tardy marten]

Nah, not yet

I'm sure the Union will collapse...

[terse wigeon]

😭

[dusky burrow]

No

That part of the Czech border also has forts

[warped flint]

oh

[rose mason]

Yo guys, Do you know the exact model of this vehicle?

[warped flint]

250 days is a lil to long for me I think

[terse wigeon]

i had 10 volunteer divs from belgium and japan but the soviets ruined it by starting WW2

[dusky burrow]

Zaolzie doesn't, but that's a story for something else

[uncut pollen]

Would you all attack?

[dusky burrow]

They aren't even covering their front

Germany is screwed

[uncut pollen]

So should i?

[warped flint]

Yeah why not

[dusky burrow]

But where are your 15 heavy tank divisions

[warped flint]

always can go back to the border

[uncut pollen]

There are non

[dusky burrow]

Noooooooooooo

[warped flint]

Wargoals gained by focuses stay right

[dusky burrow]

Yes

[brittle cypress]

nah man they're hiding their forces it's an ambush

don't attack

[uncut pollen]

I should wait Till the extended magniot Line is done

[warped flint]

I remember my last france game

Germany defend Belgium a shit ton

but completely ignored core german territorys

besidse like 1 div per tile

[dusky burrow]

Yeah I remember that

[rose mason]

this vehicle is real?

[uncut pollen]

PURE ADRENALIN

[valid prairie]

Best attacking mountaineer division?

My current one I think is good but I need knowledge from the discord

[wet plover]

Erm what 😭 😭

[dusky burrow]

gettem

[valid prairie]

Ok thanks

[wet plover]

WHAAAAT?!

Uh, did historical focus get disabled or is this because of RT56

[warped flint]

When does France give their gurantee on Romania u

[dusky burrow]

"the democratic way of life has become a minority" 98% democratic

[warped flint]

Do I have to wait till the french capped

[uncut pollen]

But Look at that😭

[dusky burrow]

When they join Allies I believe

[wet plover]

They immediately left wth

[dusky burrow]

But they should have already

[dusky burrow]

nooooooooooooooo

anyways you gotta save them

[warped flint]

You mean Axis ?

[dusky burrow]

France should join Allies eventually

[warped flint]

oh

I thoght they did after they cap to germnay

[uncut pollen]

But its my First time playing the game

[hoary mortar]

ooh

buildingt his navy is exciting

First carrier comes in january and april

[warped flint]

OH

[hoary mortar]

only 2 so far sadly

[warped flint]

i miss understood I think

Well there still guranteeing

[dusky burrow]

well think about it, if the Germans defeat the Soviets you're all alone

[uncut pollen]

Stop scaring me

[dusky burrow]

Historical France will do these two focuses, Buy Time -> Join the Allies

Buy Time removes guarantees

[hoary mortar]

Do I go with "naval refit yards ( +25refitting and +15repair speed on ships) or "mobile force"(+20% carrier research, -60% carrier cost)

[inner ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/tuco-salamanca-raymond-cruz-woohhoo-yes-yey-gif-17026577

[uncut pollen]

Italy is getting defeated

ITS FINALY GOING TO GET BETTER

[hoary mortar]

ill go with carrier-design

[hoary mortar]

RIP gj

[dusky burrow]

Refit yards is the better one

You can use old hulls for a long time

That said, naval reform is also a good consideration

[hoary mortar]

Yeah they're both great

ill switch to refit then once I've done my carriers

[slim nexus]

i lost

[uncut pollen]

Im gonna loose too

[hoary mortar]

i need new aircraft models fast

cant fit enouh stuff on my naval bombers or fighters

[remote quarry]

this is basically enough to kill uk navy

[uncut pollen]

Is a defencive Bonus Of 400% good?

[hoary mortar]

Yay

Shall I put 'em on strike force and leave em to it?

[warped flint]

Yugoslavia next

[terse wigeon]

yeah guys i think its ggs for this run 😭

[sonic sand]

This is peak Hungary

Very hungry

Hungary

[sonic sand]

America junta

[sonic sand]

Wait

So

I go slavia?

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/super-mario-ishowspeed-ishowspeed-mario-kai-cenat-kai-cenat-luigi-gif-424807815338992903

[uncut pollen]

I gave up

[sonic sand]

You may not like it but this is peak hungarian performance

[sonic sand]

False

Broke hungary

Stronk hungary with austria

[deep solstice]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/944709788569309214/1034492088219349162/gamer.gif

[hoary mortar]

cant deploy my naval bombers o my carrier even tho I have over a thousand in reserve

[inner ocean]

We shall liberate the homeland of Lenin!

[uncut pollen]

Looks Like a nice Germany flag

[warped flint]

What should I do to hold out against gemrany

[hoary mortar]

IM SO STUPID

[uncut pollen]

Against Gemrany?
Build forts and supply hubs
And anti air

[hoary mortar]

i never made carrier fighetsrs

[pine rain]

Playing as the British raj is so hard man

[sonic sand]

What i did

Beat the crap out of them

Remember

All the borders with the Germans are moutains

So building level 5 forts will really fw them

[hoary mortar]

Shit

i accidentaly didn't declare war on poland

was fixing up my carriers

nice to know it expires

[terse wigeon]

i regret playing non historical </3

wtf is this

btw the borders are (mostly) final

the ones that arent will probably get worse

[hoary mortar]

i just sank Netherland's navy yay

and their capital ship

[jovial carbon]

which country should i play

that is fun

[remote quarry]

never do that

[silk fern]

Stalin is a real american patriot or something

[remote quarry]

raid around uk with subs and engage their navy with your fleet

[valid prairie]

Anyone?

[hoary mortar]

Alright then ty

i had my subs patrol around earlier and they engaged a Dutch fleet. I'll switch 'em to raiding just to be safer

Anyways gn fellas cya

[wooden mica]

It’s great at destroying your strength and use up tons of equipment but that’s about it

[inner ocean]

BRO LMAO WTF

[valid prairie]

Does force attacking even give you buffs?

[wooden mica]

I don’t remember it off the top of my head but it should tell you when you hover over it

[inner ocean]

WTF IS THIS FOCUS LMAO

[wooden mica]

What mod?

[inner ocean]

Rotten Morgen for KX Anarchist path

[dusky burrow]

hello vertin

[inner ocean]

reached the urals before Moscow

[errant stream]

why is soviet union fascist

[dusky burrow]

This is Kaiserredux Soviets

Also player Germany didn't care that France was socialist

[oblique plinth]

Hey guys I got banned from tfr server cause some stupid moderators thought a link to a google form was 'sus'. I guess this is gonna be my main hoi4 share channel from now on.

Btw can I post screens from mods?

[slim nexus]

The Spanish Marshal died really quickly.

[slim nexus]

Bulgaria is just chilling

[gilded pike]

yea

[gilded pike]

rotten morgen is a submod for germany?

[brisk finch]

hey~ can i ask here for general tips or is that something for the ask for help channel?

[warped flint]

I think its fine for like small things, but bigger things like struggling in a war is for ask for help channel

[brisk finch]

alrighty. just wanna know some tips for starting with fascist belgium. i have the dlc with the big belgian tree. i wanna stick with belgium cuz i love belgium.

im fairly new 😅

[warped flint]

Hm, not to good with Fascist belgium, but I can maybe help you hold against Germany

Just build some forts on the border, and try to get right side mass mobilization

[warped flint]

Dutch border to btw

cause they will be invaded by the germans

[brisk finch]

already doing that. i know some stuff but germany aint a problem. i play with a friend and i stick with belgium and he sticks with germany

[warped flint]

Alright

[brisk finch]

i can trust him (hopefully)

[warped flint]

Oh and don't forget to add anti-air in your divisions

[brisk finch]

yeah green air important

[warped flint]

Oh and I think you can get lots of cores on France

[brisk finch]

yeah but i think i declared war way too late since usa already joined war haha. i did manage to take the netherlands

[warped flint]

Ah

[brisk finch]

yeah i know some stuff

my pacing might suck a lil

[brisk finch]

as support company or as actual unit?

[warped flint]

Support company

[brisk finch]

and is anti tank worth it?

[warped flint]

nah

[brisk finch]

yeah i thought so

[warped flint]

Anti-air actually gives piercing

[brisk finch]

hmm kk

[warped flint]

which is good enough

the ai won't ever make good enough tanks

[brisk finch]

so just engineer and anti air company?

or do i need to try and fill all 5 slots?

[warped flint]

Could add support artillery

[warped flint]

Not most of the time

[brisk finch]

hmmm oke

hey thanks for the help btw! 🥰

[warped flint]

no problem

[valid prairie]

top 3 hardest hoi4 achievements?

[fickle cove]

if i had to guess: don't die for your country (seriously HOW do you want to defeat poland and france with less than 475 casualties?)

[valid prairie]

france sure, u can use paratroopers i dunno about poland tho

[fickle cove]

and honestly any achievements that require you to own the entire world

[fickle cove]

doesn't mean all of them WORK AT THE SAME TIME >:(

it sometimes leads to a situation where one of my paratroopers lands in calais, the other in paris, and before the other paratroopers land, the paratrooper in paris has been crushed and i'm screwed

[valid prairie]

well we know the hardest achievement, but what about the tuffest achievement?

like the one you show ur friends and they go wow thats great

[bright forum]

How do I scroll down in order to make the Flammenpanzer?

[wicked root]

beating world ablaze as germany
finishing any campaign playing black ice
endsige germany

[silk fern]

hungary can save this

https://tenor.com/view/hungary-gif-1142201547216426190

[valid prairie]

real

[silk fern]

why is the ethiopian empire a major power

[cursive oxide]

Do para troopers county as infantry

[wary geyser]

amp community manager is corrupt, he hates me for no reason and the event economy is broken

[valid prairie]

i want battlecry achievement. do i go after germany or allies first?

[heavy vigil]

Germany to liberate ussr

Cold war larp

[valid prairie]

also this is my better shanxi run

does battlecry require u to own the states or just control them?

[shrewd lagoon]

do other people just stop caring for generals in later game?

[wicked root]

my fav thing about hoi4 is playing it for 30minutes, looking at the clock and realizing two hours have gone by

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

But why do you have 1000+ divisions?

[remote quarry]

just put them under one general

no point in having 24

[shrewd lagoon]

russia in kaiserredux and the german ai actually was working

[dusky burrow]

Could you even supply that many on the front?

[shrewd lagoon]

no

but i still won

i had like 30 million manpower

i dont know how

[dusky burrow]

Huh I see

At some point you might want better units instead of more units tbh

[shrewd lagoon]

i use mainly cas

its worked in most mods

i do tanks every few playthroughs

[bright forum]

I think I'm just bad at the game. I've never once been able to capitulate the USSR as Germany. Historically accurate, I suppose.

My tank army template. I ran out of tanks.

The tanks I was making.

My infantry divisions.

[heavy vigil]

:(

[bright forum]

I think what's happened is that I just ran out of supplies.

[heavy vigil]

???

[bright forum]

For some dumb reason I thought I could get away with making super expensive tanks.

"Yeah I've totally won this."

[heavy vigil]

Well you can

But theyre light tanks

So theyre extremely more expensive

For no stats in return

[bright forum]

Especially when you see that I have a deficit of 20,000.

[heavy vigil]

They use 60 per batallion, mediums use 50, heavies use 40

At 25 cost youd always use a hevay

Heavy*

At 10-15 maybe up to 20 cost you can use mediums

[bright forum]

So, should I have transitioned into making heavy tanks or something?

[heavy vigil]

Thats not the main issue

[bright forum]

Alright.

[heavy vigil]

But the design is very bad partially for that reason

Your infantry is also using too much stuff

It doesnt needine artillery or field hospitals or logistics company it could be so much cheaper

Just needs to hold line

Your tanks dont have hp

[bright forum]

(I watched an isorrow video and thought this was good)

[heavy vigil]

Dont have field hospitals/veterancy

Take huge unnecessary terrain debuffs

[bright forum]

On my infantry?

[heavy vigil]

You want hospitals on tanks

[bright forum]

For a second I thought you were talking about my tanks and I was like "I don't have field hospitals on my tanks."

[heavy vigil]

And offensive units

[bright forum]

OOOOH.

But not my infantry?

[heavy vigil]

Because it retains division xp

Veterancy

+75% stats modifier

Its not to save manpower just to make the divisions more experienced

[bright forum]

I honestly think it's too late to incorporate them now, I think this run is doomed.

But.

I will keep that in mind for future.

[heavy vigil]

Its prob fine

[bright forum]

Wait you think I can salvage this?

[heavy vigil]

You can always come bother people in #ask-for-help-here

And theyll provide help maybe

[heavy vigil]

Youre germany

You have a lot of territory large industry

Unless youve just ignored infantry / eco research its usually savable

[bright forum]

I did slightly neglect it.

I think I've learned some lessons.

But I think the big one is.

I need to focus more on medium and large tanks.

Yeah?

And make better tanks.

[remote quarry]

not cropping out important information on screenshot challenge😭

why

[remote quarry]

no

it's not relevant

[bright forum]

Sorry, I don't know what information is important.

[remote quarry]

the lesson is that you should make air, and have more than 25 factory on guns

[remote quarry]

just send your whole screen

easy

the situation doesn't look bad at all also

[bright forum]

I don't actually know if I would be able to send my whole screen, Discord file size.

I'll try.

BUT.

Here's the save file.

[remote quarry]

if you have air researched, just start making air

delete like half of the tank production

swap it to air

and swap some to guns

then delete all your tank divisions

and put 1 tank in your infantry

[bright forum]

Alright, whole screen.

[remote quarry]

do you have dlc

I can load it

[bright forum]

I have all DLC.

BTW, is this the best choice for the inner circle? I feel like it is, but IDK.

[remote quarry]

no

u need goebbel

[bright forum]

Why Goebbel?

[remote quarry]

which is why you are not at 100% stab right now

[bright forum]

Who should I replace for Goebbels, who has no balls at all.

[remote quarry]

himmler

[bright forum]

Alright.

So what should the ideal inner circle look like?

[remote quarry]

todt -> hess (replace todt with goring on event) -> goebbel

im playing your save

[bright forum]

Unlike usual, I'm not gonna baby-rage and delete the save, but rather upload it.

[remote quarry]

why do you build 700 rubber without ever using it

[bright forum]

I...don't know. I wanted rubber early on, but then wanted fuel.

Better to have more rubber than no rubber 🤷‍♂️

[remote quarry]

corrected production line

[bright forum]

Thank you. I take it planes are very important?

[heavy vigil]

You have a lot of rubber

You should use it

Planes are good

[bright forum]

I honestly...forget to bother making planes.

Unless I want to make strat bombers.

Then I make nothing but planes.

Aight I'm heading off to the masjid for dhikr, please ping me with any and all corrections and suggestions you guys make. Thank you.

[uneven portal]

they lose budapest and its joever

[misty fossil]

you went with 4 year plan 💔

[uneven portal]

bro is not bittersteel

[fair horizon]

boats are better, thats why carriers are the best

combines both

[uneven portal]

no

[fair horizon]

yes

[uneven portal]

if boats are more important

what purpose do they serve as luxembourg

or austria

[misty fossil]

what

you disassemble the boat then carry it over land

[uneven portal]

wait

they couldve done that

and gotten a 5 year research bonus for super heavy tank

and 2x special project research speed on ratte

why didnt they just do that

[fair horizon]

austria had a fleet during ww1 btw and it did exactly what the italian fleet did during ww2

[remote quarry]

actually playing the game is important

there are different ways to win

but you need to be playing

[fair horizon]

if i could teach my brother that 😭

[remote quarry]

like you had a bunch of tanks sitting around for noreason

send them and they easily kill the allied invasion

subs as well

just stack everything under one admiral split them into like task force of 3 and always engage raid everywhere

[fair horizon]

all of them look unsupplied

[uneven portal]

werinww2

[remote quarry]

yes because we are raiding it with 200 subs

[fair horizon]

german subs when they get to discover the hedgehog first hand (they wont make it back to the surface)

[thorn merlin]

Does anyone know if people who owned the "man the guns" dlc will get something for free since its now getting integrated into the game?

[fair horizon]

nothing

[thorn merlin]

Okay

[fair horizon]

well nothing except all the time you got to enjoy it before it was integrated into the base game

[hasty linden]

damn the ottomans are cooked

[indigo violet]

They‘ll live

[hasty linden]

bruh

[cursive oxide]

Mods help ?

[misty fossil]

crazy

[tiny iris]

OCD forbids me from playing HOI4

I hate it.

Let me play my map games in peace!!!!!!!

[cursive oxide]

To the guy I whas just in a call with resend that friend request

[thorny pond]

anyone wanna play r56?

[misty fossil]

rule 56: do not abbreviate road to 56 to r56

[eternal palm]

💀

[lilac mango]

halp

[tardy marten]

New York has declare war on rats

[scenic spade]

they need to nerf greece

wtf is this

[ivory hull]

ok how did you get 6 years in 1 hour

[scenic spade]

max speed with really powerful pc

anyways

WOAH

[ivory hull]

what are your specs?

[scenic spade]

i got it yesterday

R5 7500F

RX 7800 XT

watercooler

32gb ram

ddr5 6000mhz

750w PSU

[eternal palm]

Way over powered, but still a good machine

[scenic spade]

why is it op

[eternal palm]

CPU seems a bit underpowered too

[wild warren]

its ok for hoi4 till 1942 xD

[scenic spade]

sir its sep 42

[eternal palm]

Unless u did the math on that I think 750 is a bit much

[scenic spade]

futureproof

[eternal palm]

I can power an r7 5800x and rtx 3070 with 600W

[eternal palm]

Ah ok that makes sense

ye you might wanna upgrade the cpu in the future

[scenic spade]

would you LOOK AT THAT

[scenic spade]

yeh

it was very cheap

on sale

only 120

[eternal palm]

damn

Thats good

[visual pasture]

just no message or anything

[scenic spade]

i had to get it

[eternal palm]

Yeeee

[scenic spade]

all in the montech XR

very good case

would reccomend

[ivory hull]

wouldnt even say that

[misty fossil]

yeah because theres no operational london news agency running to produce anything

[eternal palm]

As the person said, futureproof

[misty fossil]

futureproof when pastproof

[ivory hull]

but its not "way over powered" as you said

[eternal palm]

Yea thanks for you input smartass, got anything else to say?

[misty fossil]

future proof doesnt mean a lot if your pc breaks down anyway

like your house burning down

[ivory hull]

did your parents not teach you respect?

[misty fossil]

lets not be rude

[eternal palm]

Well thats not gonna happen

[eternal palm]

Not to respect you, no

[misty fossil]

me when name calling over a cpu

[ivory hull]

just cause its online doesnt mean you dont have to have respect

it was just my opinion

[eternal palm]

[misty fossil]

and i thought ive seen all there is to be seen in life

[eternal palm]

Dawg I called u a smartass

U get offended over THAT

jfc

[wild warren]

https://tenor.com/view/dol-huh-eyes-disgusted-gif-11690827820922534530

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-picture-not-funny-no-personality-cat-cat-images-and-gifs-mercy-overwatch-cats-angel-no-personality-cats-gif-2920273533671394257

[ivory hull]

you literally said you have no respect to me

just be more polite

[misty fossil]

true

[eternal palm]

[ivory hull]

and think about your messages

[eternal palm]

You cant make this shit up

[ivory hull]

before you send them

[misty fossil]

nah im gonna side with steve this time

its rude

[eternal palm]

I never said its not

[misty fossil]

lets move on

[eternal palm]

I just dont care. I dont need him to correct me and his input is rather unhelpful as I stated yesterday. If his input was helpful, I would respect him

So I would like to ask YOU if what youre saying is helpful

[heavy vigil]

Be respectful and nice

[ivory hull]

just because you see something different doesnt mean to be unpolite

[eternal palm]

I am. Most of the time.

[ivory hull]

?

you literally said you have no respect

for me

and you insulted me

[wild warren]

He told that..
He is respectfull MOST of the time..

not in your case.

[ivory hull]

for no apperent reason too

[eternal palm]

See someone gets it

[eternal palm]

I literally told u the reason

If u cared to read

then again u are a hoi4 player

[ivory hull]

because you disagree with my opinion, you get rude and insult me

[sudden thistle]

So are you 😭

[eternal palm]

Yes 😭

I am illiterate

[wild warren]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-you-love-you-hug-kiss-gif-11644994527097850323

[eternal palm]

nuh uh, read again

[ivory hull]

.

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/ramcharan-rrr-movie-charan-alia-jrntr-gif-25753799

[ivory hull]

just have dont insult people over their own opinion

this isnt the place to talk about this either way

[indigo violet]

Why is everything on fire again? Just hug each other smh

[sudden thistle]

So the scene looks cooler

[indigo violet]

Oh i didnt mean your gif, that one is cool

[tender swift]

Get out from your disneyland, did that hurt you much really?

[ivory hull]

you would insult strangers in real life?

online chats making people have too big of an ego these days

[heavy vigil]

why are you guys fighting

Relax

Its discord

[indigo violet]

Fr

[sudden thistle]

Exactly

Just like close discord

Easy win

[ivory hull]

thats hard for some people yk

[heavy vigil]

Dont instigate

[sudden thistle]

Holy ragebait

[ivory hull]

wasnt my intention

[wild warren]

Just one way to prove who is right..

Lets play

Usa-Jap xD

[heavy vigil]

fight it out with a game of over text rock paper scissors

[sudden thistle]

Rip

[eternal palm]

nah france ger is funnier

mostly cuz france will win

[sudden thistle]

Nah

[heavy vigil]

Depends on war time

[sudden thistle]

Germany will just get Steiner

And win

[eternal palm]

Ye true if march its over

[indigo violet]

^

[eternal palm]

Actually no if its on time as per agreement its fine

[heavy vigil]

Well yeah but if no rules

Youre dead in 37/38