#hoi4-general
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I forgot skill tree was even a thing
you shouldn't TBH
because it can make your generals better
with no distinction
and field marshals too
When will soviets capitulate anyone from dc tried taking over soviets?
yeah no I still use it
Bro generals work gud
do you have la resistance?
Whats that
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I have all of them...
even the speechs
because
you need field marshals for large fronts and they give free stats
all my generals are almost max
OK forget about it.
Vanilla hoi4 you need to go to the Urals
absolutely no reason to not use marshals
I just use em for the stats
What dat mean
I'm rich
mine are so disorganized
the big line of mountains....
I am thinking huge invasion to stalingrad with 3 generals and field marshal
once you've assigned the marshal, delete all general frontlines, select the field marshal, select the frontline tool and assign it while maintaining SHIFT key to create a single fluid frontline
So like general, field marshall and army controller are 3 different things, also i use rommel
it will avoid troop stacking in the void, leaving gaps and will increase the flexibility of your front as it moves
what are you calling "army controller"
The one who controlls 5 generals
that's a field marshal
OH but field marshall needs generals you want me to delete all generals
they give stats to all units under their command and allow you to draw a single, cohesive, frontline
what
what
pretty explicit on how to do it
there is no higher power
btw, you having 40 divisions on a single general makes them basically useless
damn he does
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๐ฅฒ erwin rommel was great blitzing to moscow with 40 men
you have like 10 generals dawg split that army
dm me if you want a nordic hoi4 server
40 divisions is a little more than 40 men
I guess only rommel is capable of being a gud general to 40 divizions
also, you need to pause the game and adress these popups man
Ye alr
no he's not
mb
๐ญ ๐ญ ๐ญ ๐ญ
there's a reason the number is red
all generals have a cap of 24 divs, except ones with skilled staffer trait which can control 30. After that you get a big ass penality to general bonus until you exceed their capacity by 50% at which point you gain no bonus at all
Alr so i line up 3 generals at the down side in middle one maybe near general and 3 at top give 1 field marshalls down and up and start an invade
the more you look the worse it gets
How do i invade not in a single line but a whole like uh wall
dude your so right
dude he has some generals with like 2 and 6 divisions
and then 3 generals with like
What is the hoi4 sub ๐ญ
Gotta do a run with this
1/3 funny stuff, 1/3 bad advice and noob content or troubleshoot, 1/3 help posts or "today i learned"
Yall how do i invade to stalingrad with whole wall not a single line to it?
seems meta to me
wth is this ๐ญ
if you want to battleplan with all units then just assign a battleplan to all units and enable them all
20 combat width tank brigade trust me its meta โ๏ธ
Like i know how to blitz but i dont know how to make a plan to inavadd a whole wall of enemies not just a single line blitz to it
sounds like you don't know what you're talking about mate
How can i do what i said
True
Bro
select battleplan order and rightclick+drag
But i can only go in one line
To up
why tf is there motorized infantry in this tank brigade
what
I just realized the photo I sent
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Bruh, I am the world's greatest superpower but I am only 7th place because I didn't deploy my entire stockpile of planes and didn't split my navy into 100 fleets
there will only be 1 arrow but it won't only advance on that arrow
Bro this is dificult to explain but i need to invade not a line to stalingrad but more then that
Let me fix that really quick
toaster strudel
Give me a minute
the arrow only shows the general direction. Troops will advance on the whole frontline if the order is set correctly
these are getting worse by the second
WHAT is that template
19 combat width light tank division
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Got to deploy a few planes
runs into a div under red air
dies
erm but it's got soft atack ๐ค ๐ค ๐ค ๐ค
thus it's good
๐ค ๐ค ๐ค ๐ค ๐ค ๐ค
hello niche community
Bro how do i just take this whole land to my self?
invade it
bro didn't listen to any of us
wait actually this isnt that bad myf
field hospitals and recon kinda unnecessary tho for line infantry
Cuz i fear troops will go only where the arrow points like to moscow i want that whole piece of land to me not just one singular line to stalingrad you understand?
fr
how do you not understand how battleplans work?
Im js finding random template pics
wtf
technically even arty isn't necessary just for holding
missing vital support AA
cavalry recon is basically useless
hospital is good but is very expensive. Only keep if you are a manpower-limited country or wish to abuse Close air support
engineers are ok but very expensive
if big bro dont go first we finna get clapped โ๏ธ
Bro like i arrow straight to stalingrad or make an arrow like this ill send a pic
it is NOT mine
Ddhgfd
sry I thought you were gonna ask our opinion
lol no im just finding these randomly
There we go, now I am 1st
try finding the most brainrroted one possible
Deploying my planes and splitting a bit of my navy made me go from 7th to 1st
Lol that leaderboard
I make a battle plan like this?
select the battleplan order (arrow), click and drag your mouse cursor (MAINTAIN Rclick) on the green line then activate battleplan
Like this bro?
Just push down to Rostov
I havent used cavalry in ages
what should I even use when I start my next playthrough
Also make field marshal frontlines please
let me send my actual templates
just win
we tried explaining this stuff but the kid seems to be either very young or only semi-literate
But like i do it like that round from moscow to stalingrad back to kiev or like what
try using the awful designs showed in the top hoi4 guide for new players on steam
very poor designs
hungary and afeganistan and romanov poland get some NASTY bonuses
just push to stalingrad bro
stop overthinking it
man playing baltics is such an exercise in frustration
Bro if youd be playing you would make a battle plan to stalingrad or to stalingrad and back
Group up 5 of your generals per field marshal.
Click the field marshal portrait. Click the frontline creation tool. Hold shift and then left click the front while holding shift
I would personally push down from Moscow to take Stalingrad
Bro 3 million of wehrmacht is dead ๐ฅฒ
And follow the railroad
What good will the shift do?
I would aim for encirclements, but for that you need supply lines so just do that : follow the supply
I wouldn't even battleplan if I was playing, I'd micro everything
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Instead of splitting the frontline into the armies, it will make 1 solid frontline
And it is 1 single frontline for 24*5 troops
send me yalls best templates
But i want to take this whole area
fluid frontline. Will give you better organization overhaul with no gap in the frontline
Not just a single line to stalingrad
STOP DOING THIS
we know, stop posting this image and listen
for some reason Australia has a template like that
JUST HEAD TO STALINGRAD
Push down to Astrakan, then you can clean things up
You will encircle the Soviet army and you win
He already has Kiev
I got kiev
period.
then move on already
I think a push down from Moscow works
I hate Switzerland so much omg
finally
bearing in mind it took until 43 for him to get this far
And i probably will have one field marshall from leningrad to push top to moscow
and he lost 3million men
Wait, I thought you owned Moscow
but idc anymore
Austria had a really big Danubian Federation Alliance, and Switzerland just straight up annexed them because of their stupid focus tree
like he's been asking that for the past 15min and doesn't even listen
I will let yall know if it worked or if i turned american ๐ซก
Turned American?
Bro soviets lost 7 million bro
died
that's like germany annexing Austria hungary cuz of aunchluss on those timelapses
You have the Soviets on the backfoot
You just need to reorganize your army and things will be 10x easier
I holded west from from america really good and its 1943 got moscow
More like Austria annexing Germany
guys should I use this "meta marine build" ๐ญ โ๏ธ
who even comes up with these
This is not great, but you do you
F no
so we are using 5 support companies
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every single type of artillery
acting like marines need anti tank ๐ฅ
18 marines with those support companies would do well
where are you finding this ?
Though support AA would be nice
I think ppl thing hospitals are good cuz they think they'd loose way less manpower
Oops
I really hope Switzerland gets whats coming to them
You also lose less XP when soldiers get shot
I can never use field hospitals
Since they live
Switzies got level 99 forts
they're not wrong, but it's very expensive on anything but tanks and special forces
Field hospitals are nice
Expensive, but nice
I only use them in marine templates
where if they die
then I lose
other than that its just not really worth it in my eyes
personally I only use them on tank divs ye
FH gives 10% bonus HP + trickleback. It's useful on everything as it reduces losses (both mp and equipment)
tanks too
Yall united states of mexico just joined the war am i cooked?
for me its just marines/tanks
especially bc I play as the US mostly
How's that historically accurate?
Should I try special forces Germany as I'm going to be fighting in the pacific alot
its not worth it since my super high manpower
show a screenshot of how things are going on stalingrad
If you hold Atlantikwall you should be fine
yes
Hadn't started doing plans but after 10 mins ill show
Mexico
What
Febuary 1942 onwards
The Aztec Eagles
Crazy
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united Mexico States
united States of America
united States of brazil
OOOOOOOOOF
ALR chat ill come back with news if i won stalingrad and how to invade britain cuz its impossible
these are frying me
Where's the motorized infantry support
wha
Tank battalions need infantry supporting them
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Perferably motorized or mechanized
I actually use a template like that one
The one you pasted?
That is beyond trash
Like it can't fight
It just swaps the arty
this is the most communist Non historical map ive seen
Btw if anyones down to play italy yall can
There is no infantry helping it
for motorized infantry
Well, the tank divisions I usually use are 10/8s or 9/9s
This is still beyond bad
I used to rock these templates bro
Because no infantry support
It's still raw
When is hoi5 getting released from prison?
It happens on ahistorical semi often
I actually used this
for my run im doing right now
bc I couldnt cook
and was too lazy to change it
You really need more motorized/mechanized
Switzerland is just schizoing the entire game
at what % should I use reduce mefo bills consumer goods
Isn't it able to go negative
yes
Like you get minus consumer goods factor
That is outdated
a major thing
Omg
36 is what you want
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for an offensive division
for some reason I thought it was the craziest shit since sliced bread
I lowk forgot what combat width even does
god has abandoned us
I should probably update these templates
Based
I would agree with this
the ones I sent arent mine
i call for an international crusade against switzerland
but I should probably look through them actually ๐ญ
let me get into my US run and look through them
Who is undercooking
Where are you getting these from
ah
I have NO idea where he is getting these from
but they are absolutely meta
and the best
of all time
clearly
They have a focus that gave them forts on every single tile
me when I need to cross a river or fight in any terrain other than plain/desert :
Switzerland is utter slop
yk actually
little bit of cas dmg
give me good templates yall
Just paradrop them next time 
for the run im doing now
Check pins in #ask-for-help-here
how old are you kid?
Joke bro
what did I see
a tasteless "joke"
I need to build specific buildings in germany but i cant seem to find the option to do so
guess why
How come?
What buildings even?
tf you mean
I think it's forts
yeah
bet you my life savings
are you using mods?
No
chat have you ever seen this event?
wait @opal nymph
you smard
I make
big tank
huge combat width
and little infantry
mini width
But i accept this dis is gud
Excuse me jose yo soy el Grando smokio
buenass queria un casco como este
bro have you took stalingead yet?
Bro these bois havin fun ngl
Not yet
well I am helping the Chinese united front win
isn't there a mod that makes a europe-only map
i should specify the mod makes the map like expanded
Bro thats easy unless you play baltic states
Lithuania underrated fr
hey guys
could use some help
im playing as communist central america
and the fascist mexicans declared on me and on panamรก, colombia and ecuador
then they got venezuela, dominica and the confederates states of america into the war
my casualty ratio is 57.000
and the mexican casualty ratio is 1.350.000
and the american one is 2.000.000
lol I have 17 infantry divs in China
Built west forts level 10
I built mine level 3 no brit or amerikano stepped on my land
i think the americanos that did try to attack me were...well, obliterated
2.01M confederate casualties
I have 3 mil
against a 5M core population country
another 10Mil just to get stalingrad
Is it okay to have 3 million casuelties in 1943 11
Bro after barbarossa operation which took mil lives all lives gone slow
the americans ran out of manpower now
sadly, they are on limited conscription
it is really shameful to see 2 majors fight against 1 minor nation and still fail
You pro player?
350 hours is enough for me to say that im a pro at this game?
or am i still a freshie
and im bored ๐ฅ
prayers for your pc
Ye so look at my plans is it gud?
its going thru it
Take over the world
Im the US
Yall this is a good plan?
i literally cant ๐ข '
no idea, never conquered the ussr at that point
how do i attack multiple countries at once? i just started and the tutorial is kinda ass
350 hours and didnt take over ussr?
Nob
Can i call stalin to make him surrender?
Imm tired ๐ฅฒ
Someone send this pic to stalin to know were comming
split ur forces
how
or if you only have one army
use the half selected units
and then manually click the other half
guys
me and panama had been fighting the hispanic alliance for so long that the panamenians lost 222K men to the confederate and mexico
panama's core population in 1943 is 497K
paraguay levels of utter destruction
Yall i said they wont take all of the land to stalingrad theyr just going a straight line to stalingrad
How to fix this bs all divisions in one place
Anyone ๐ฅฒ
soviet arenยดt home :D
Bro what do i do bro?
Flank attack rather than have 100 divisions try to fit through a door at once
Attack a tile from multiple directions
Yes?
Why would you halt
Mowcow getting a good training from the soviets rn
Idk i thought germans fought worse in winter
Well, everyone does
Bro what if i loose siege of moscow
But you might as well try and get a supply hub
Don't you already own moscow?
The Soviets shouldn't have any supply to push you out
I have moscoe
But its getting scary up here
Should i do total kriek national focus?
Goated idea: 12 straf batallions and 10 level forts in moscow
Yo all my divisions nearing stalingrad are nearly dead what do i do
Oof
Yall?
ive had my worst naval defeat
i lost 2 heavy cruisers 2 light cruisers and a handful of destroyers because i was busy microing my brother's war
i mean as long as ur not getting encircled ur doing better than real life germany
ive got an idea
heavy tank mountaineers
basically tanks suck at mountains but mountaineers are amazing at it, but mountaineers are infantry so they take a ton of casualties, so you combine the two to cover their weaknesses
however mountaineers are slow and special forces so we wont have many of these divisions, this is good because this means that the cost of a heavy tank is justified and we can make it a bit cheaper because we wont have to make it faster than 4km/h
add in logistics, support AA, rangers, flame tanks, and engineers and you have a theoretically unstoppable division
pls fix cas exploit
russia likely
russia has a nasty heavy tank build that you can do
if you use them to go after germany's tanks and then use some mediums to chew up their inf the german ai is toast. MP might be different but I am not up to date on the mp meta
Yes.
poor poland
was focasing on inviting the balkins then italy delcaired war on albainia (in my faction)
What can I do to hold out as Czechoslovakia? This the first time I have played them in so long
pray
i would help but youre from wisconsin
im playing
idk
i dont play czechoslovakia
Are you from, the disgusting state, below the GREAT, wisconsin.
dont let me catch you lacking
are you referring to indiana?
๐
thats a worse state
Illinois
It is horrible here
Either scorching hot, or cold as shit
It was in the 80s this month
OCTOBER
Wait, how do you know what state im from
I never told you
i wonder
how do you check what claims and cores you have?
do u have poland as an ally
i was able to do it a few weeks ago
hey man
No
but i forgot
just click on a state and if ur flag shows up hover over it
ur cooked
What?
france is useless
Is that africa
Thats justs my pfp
i meant the mapmode
oh idk
Cover all of your forts
Against a good player you will not win, but the AI struggles making good divisions
As for you, assault engineers, flame tanks, and railway guns of course
youll be a great hero one day ches
My mom says im special
yeah they make like 8 width artillery, calvary and heavy tank division sort of stuff
"me not slow. im fast. kachow"
Lmao
yk chaos mod? they make like chaos division kinda shi from chaos mod
ha
I don't feel very confident about my line
Forts are your friend
Fortify the line as much as possible
I built AA to
Yay new front for the Germans
My industry is pathetic
10 mils
War started
im cooked
My only issue is the south
Romanian reinforcements!
Just checked air
think my aa destroyed them
Why don't i know any memes about Czech
Ah crap
might have to abandon slovakia soon
Will Germany ever attack Poland if their situation is like this
so uh yeah, i dont think i can lose now
also because italy kept sending me their crappy camicie divisons which you cant delete (is there a way to stop puppets giving you divisions?) i just banished the camicies i got to st helena with himmler
also completely maxed infra and built a giant level 10 defensive line
Another one!
just for fun
Small but adds up
i screwed up my last playthough and now austria is the leader of the Axis
now i gotta do this all over again
ok, im tired, imma call this a save
initial point
Switzerland was rightfully punished for all their crimes
Maybe this? Also allied lend lease might struggle to reach you but idk
Yeah only can get lend lease from sweden unfortenatuely
I can try
What are your divisions
I can't stop the defecit
Those are pure holders as they cant really counterattack either
Well, that might help out
Melting them now
The joys of artillery
Romania keeps attacking and nearly getting me encircled
bruh
I disabled allied supply to
Think im stuck....
I don't have enough guns
Being pushed back to my forts
Think im cooked
germany can core all of slovakia through the reichskomerisiat decisions
Idk why but I have like no divisions in the north
I think they will push past my forts
Do you have divisions you can force deploy?
Also be aware Hungary will join Axis soon
Produce less support equipment and arty
3 mils on support equipment and arty is probably all you need
Not at all
Didn't build a single civ
I built forts and aa
Huh
Interesting
Oh
That might be it
All IC went into that
Dont build forts as czechs
The focus tree does that doesn't you
I built extra
on some tiles that weren't covered
in slovakia and 1 in czechia
if I didn't they would have broke through, but probably some I did'nt have to build
Microing that one state that Poland gets if you cede sudeten is usually all you need
You can get forts along slovak border via that one focus, which isnt a high priority
All of that IC could have been onto mils
Meaning more troops
Meaning more reinforcements
Do I not build aa aswell?
I felt that realy hurt germany in the air
I looked and they had like 6 cas after a few months o
Yeah, but you can wait late for that
It mostly deals with tac bombers
I think 1 level 5 in Prague is all you need, if that
Support AA is what you need
Alright
I built them pretty much all over czechoslovakia....
Yeah my mills should be doing much better
Ye
Yeah, state AA is a huge investment
I almost say it isnt worth it
Aside from a level or 2
goooooooooood
I don't want to pay $30 for this crap
but I want to try it
make another dlc > make hoi V on a new engine
Just wait until itโs on sale
The lowest it gets down to is 14$
Will go on sale in December
idk how much is that in rubles
Could also just get the subscription
like, is it $30 for u
Itโs 50.
well, ok
regional prices
still expensive af
for questionable content except Japan and China
I do think the game is a if overpriced for what you get
But the subscription is really worth it
since they released GoE I never played on any of these nations
I don't find them enjoyable -_-
today I wanna waste 10 hours on iran/afghan runs
nothing in this game except cursed strats is enjoyable for me but I still don't wanna to play MP
I wasted like 2 hours and went down the wrong path as alternate history Germany
Failed an achievement
nah, I built up Raeder's Germany for 5 hours and got swarmed by everyone
But because Iโm a no life I will contribute tmr as soon as I wake up
Itโs like 11 pm for me rn
also lost 20 hours in the mod where kaiser germany fleed to Konigsberg
cause for some reason Germany USSR UK and China joined the same faction due to AI's focus on history focuses somehow broken down
I have like 70 hours or so in the game, but only 1/3 of it is trying
god pls make hoi 5 I don't trust these swedish ppl
Yeah if you go off course the ai does too
"people"
You could also, play a different game?
there's no macro ww2 game as detailed as hoi4 sadly
not really as detailed as hoi4
pretty close but not quite there
are u jokin
thats whjat poor kids who cant afford paradox financial policy
its more simplified millenium dawn
play
Yeah, hoi4 is superior
with 18 billion toxic little children
its 14 year olds
Who donโt know what being a sore winnner/loser is.
tried World Ablaze SP, it's pure suffering cuz AI spawns million divs if they have to little (due to your encirclements)
and it's impossible to help germany win the soviets as italy
im 20 and if i load roblox up i just feel disappointed with myself
yeah there is a missing 6%
sometimes ill play a little around easter for the nostalgia
the 2013 easter egg hunt
My bf always wanted to play roblox with me, really didnt get the appeal and it was quite stupid tbh
im figuring that most of the older in age players probably played when they were little and theyre attached to the game now
Probably
playing roblox above age 17 is for girls
paradox im begging you to fix ports being counted as surrounded
Each to his own tbh
i had 3 marines when i landed but of course they instantly attacked and instead of retreating they died
Tfym pretty close๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
Ts far from hoi4
brazilian fleet is so beautiful
Only 13 boats
13 very beautiful ships
How good are they
Lucky number
Nah thats -33,000,000,000,000
Imagine
so, uhm, guys
i played as communist central america until synarchist mexico declared on me and brought the confederates and venezuelans in
the entire war lasted from 1941-46
1.02M casualties from my side
102,034 or so from me and the other million plus from the soviet union
and 11 million combined from the confederate and mexicans
it growded
Chinese united the front ๐ฅ
chat how am i being shore bombarded by an island?
look at how beautiful the RNS Vengeance is
First time winning WW3, the Germans immediately declared war on Czechoslovakia after this for no apparent reason ๐ญ
I've lost a lot worse
Yep they should make me a dev
Pin that place where they are attacking from
Situation has been fixed already
I think germany moved troops to polands border
They will get a 50- attack cuz they are in multiple combat
Alr
The german troops here should pretty much have no supply now
They Have a railway in Innsbruck i think
So they Will still get it
Lol
But Italy just joined the axis, will they get supply from there?
Ig so
Oh wait its still not connected to italy even
Pushed back to a decent defensive line I think
Ill sit here untill I get full mass mob
then maybe try an attack
Shit I can't hold silesia
Ima just fall back, ill still be in a better postion then before.
paradox should give the usa the langley if the british get the hermes
Yeah
Trying to get armored trains, realized I have no trains
the G*rms are bombing me
My aa is slowly killing them
More.
Every man shall have a czech flak 20mm
orlekins for all
Honestly I might build more, since I need them to stop bombing my trains, and I have to many mills where I just can't keep them supplyed
Which Realism mods (Ultra, BICE, TW) is the best?
Czechoslovakia not having trains ๐ญ
How will you deal with the Hungarians btw
Fair
Germany is germaning
Will they realse dev diarys only on tuesdays
Started to gain momentum then hungary joined
time for round 2
its the older trains that are being knocked out
Those have been gone for a while
huh
Soviets are invading poland
what is the best artillery template for monarchist germany with Prussian Doctrine and all?
dude.. Uncool.
Mass mob doctrine done?
germany literally lost ww2 as the kaiser and they are destroying the very people that killed them
germany literally went from being in the dirt back to winning against the allies in like a year or two
infantry only austria with 40 divs
1943
the troop difference is crazy
6:1 troops
i think I won but idk
If the season pass goes on sale is it worth buying
vanilla?
14/4
one army group of 14/4, superior firepower left, then just battleplan
superior firepower..
the meta gods are not happy
14/4 is the new meta now thanks to the artillery rework
dont tell the metaslaves that
I usually use only infantry
you should try 14/4
YESSSS OMG 14/4 SFP BATTLEPLAN SHREDS
Is this good
inf rushing
yeah its great though i'd add an extra support company
does any war change germanies spirit from mefo to conquest?
cool
is it worth to declare on the dutch or poland early in game?
Depends on the brits bath
?
If is not democratic they are less likely to guarantee
And you have more opportunities to expand
yeah but the dutch indies have resources
how if im the only country
kicking off ww2
do you ever just
Thicc lithuania
Does Britain need to accept the defense treaty so you can get victoria as germany?
It's Austria Hungary
Dw I fixed it later
4 tank divisions vs 1 infantry and 1 cavalry division, i swtg this game (i have a skill issue)
good encirclement?
couldve been better 0/10
about 200k casulties
rise of radicalism mentioned
i just need to OCCUPY the countries right? do i also need to take the italian colonies?
Great Moderation
xd
do i need the la resistance dlc for the macau achievment or can i just use a puppet state to make it control china?
No
Just their cores
aight thanks
I got capitulated anyway because of a naval invasion i didnt see so rip ๐ญ
F
You gotta ally with ussr
Its best
Or id you are skildled enough, break Italy with a 1 v 1
Skilled*
yea i did, the ussr capped so only i remained, i held out and won ww2 and after the war, i invited russia back into the comintern but for some reason they declared on china which was guaranteed by the us ๐ญ
holy meta
Lol
why didnt i get the achievment
i'm way out of the meta, what infantry template do you guys use
Combat Width: The Luxembourg-German border
Need more manpower
14/4
I got a girl๐๐๐
Exotic fine shyt DMd me
Living the dream
Js had to say it to somebody
Cant hold it in
For filler inf meta in sp (not counting mass mob) is 8-9 inf support arty and AA
interesting
pretty sure austria hungary was bigger than that
actually its 1/17
i still used 7/2..
He's trolling don't listen to that
and the first people you shared this with is us..
thats meta
(thats what i wouldve said if it was still 2017)
Stop

