hoi4-general

[orchid lily]

from what i understood the best choice should be 9 infantry with arty, engineer, aa and recon support companies

[paper echo]

i build simple units but i let my air do the rest

[orchid lily]

oh yeah air

i never manage to build a good airforce

[paper echo]

do you have by blood alone dlc

[orchid lily]

yeah all of em

[paper echo]

alr

[orchid lily]

building an airforce always seems so expensive

[paper echo]

imma open hoi rq and send my air template

[paper echo]

#ask-for-help-here message go there

it has designers

[paper echo]

the outcome is really good tho

when you build just dont forget to train them

[tiny iris]

Why you have some wierd man with a goatee as pfp?

[hoary wind]

Imagine they made a thing where they added speeches to the games

You record a speech with a mic, and like you can choose whether you want to do a speech to boost defence, offense etc and using AI it rates how successful you were and the buff is based off that

[paper echo]

walter white is NOT a weird man 😠

[tiny iris]

Idk who that is.

[paper echo]

he is a very wise man

[tiny iris]

He looks like someone that would be in an alleyway selling drugs.

[paper echo]

he? never

totally

he would never do that

[tiny iris]

I wonder how Bryan thought first episode of filming breaking bad. The first scene is him in a gas mask with no pants on.

[paper echo]

what a great way to start a show

[woven dragon]

WHY DID THIS HAPPEN PARADOX FIX THIS PLEASE

I am Poland btw

[paper echo]

did they form that polish thing while you are in the axis?

are you a puppet by any chance?

[nova snow]

Gng what should I do next?

I did 30 minutes in Hell

[woven dragon]

Yes I am I did Beck Ribbentrop

[nova snow]

73% of all achievements

[paper echo]

if you are a puppet they can make reichkommissariats inside your country

[nova snow]

And made Luxembourg into the holy roman empire

[woven dragon]

Am I allowed to console command all of my land back

[paper echo]

i wouldve done that

[woven dragon]

Because I lost 95% of my industry

[nova snow]

Ion wanna be a npc and js finish the achievements

[paper echo]

world conquest as democratic tibet

[nova snow]

Countered the world as tannu tuva

Cant be harder

[bright arrow]

Going for Commie German game

[nova snow]

Ig the supply issue but thats fixable

[bright arrow]

But put everyone else on a fascist path

[tiny iris]

How good is Götterdammerung? Is it worth the money?

[nova snow]

Yes

[random delta]

hearts of tuff 4

[paper echo]

do the achievement where you need to be the one to cap ussr as afghanistan but play hist on

[nova snow]

100%

[nova snow]

I think i did that

[tiny iris]

https://tenor.com/view/job-jumpscare-job-application-job-meme-job-jumpscare-gif-5102454363566376023

[paper echo]

do that thing

whatever khalistan is

[bright arrow]

Haven't played it much yet, got it this sale. But so far i find it fun. Tho i haven't experienced with the super tech much

[nova snow]

The Afghan nightmare

Thats it

[tiny iris]

I love the Hungary focus tree. So much fledged out from d*ath or dishonor Hungary.

[nova snow]

I remember

I love the Switzerland focus

Its so sophisticated

[paper echo]

both austria and hungary austria hungary paths are fun

germany is also good

[nova snow]

Tbh I might js do random side quests

[tiny iris]

They added like all the German focuses into the base game.

[nova snow]

Yk what's a good idea?

Conquer germany as austira and do ww2 as her

[paper echo]

accept the turkish investment thing

[paper echo]

not the gotterdammerung ones

[nova snow]

YES

Ill dk this one

[nova snow]

And this too

[tiny iris]

I always invest in them cuz I feel bad for the Turks.

[paper echo]

i dont accept

[tiny iris]

They did.

[paper echo]

i find it useless

[bright arrow]

I was told Germany is easy, hence i chose my run this way

[nova snow]

I never do

Turks sometimes pmo in HOI4

[paper echo]

bro my friend did ottoman path once and the other turkey on the civil war joined the comintern

[nova snow]

Randomly switch sides

[paper echo]

so yeah they pmo

[nova snow]

Exactly

And its such a pain playing as them

[paper echo]

i do love their chromium tho

even though i dont find many things to use it

[nova snow]

And the hair transplants

[merry sequoia]

guys should I attack the united states?

[paper echo]

as what nation

[merry sequoia]

mexico

[paper echo]

if you think your army is strong then why not

[merry sequoia]

bet

[paper echo]

but make a save before attacking

[merry sequoia]

hoi4 keeps crashing 😭

[paper echo]

classic paradox moment

[merry sequoia]

bet ive got uh crippled troops bc I was stupid and attacked a country with weak divisions that didn't have their equipment
I have 17 military factories, a bunch of submarines, and 1% stability ive got this trust

ima restart my computer rq to get steam to stop having an aneurysm

but trust me i got this

[covert hinge]

hungary

[tiny iris]

8 hours playtime in HOI4?

Get out of here.

Fake HOI player.

You're not one of us.

You have a life.

Leave the server and come back when you wasted it away on the game.

[thick kettle]

let's hope they don't cross the warsaw bridge

[gilded heart]

hi, pls can someone help me with this focus on URSS tree ? i don't understand according to the text why it didnt get completet since i already got the event with japan

[lapis snow]

it can only be taken after WWII

[covert hinge]

real

hungary

[tiny iris]

Hey everyone! 👋 I’m [Your Name]. Happy to be here and excited to meet you all! 😄

[merry sequoia]

got past my war with the united stated with 1.2k manpower 😭

[covert hinge]

how

[brittle cypress]

Welcome to the server [insert name here]! Hope you have a great time! 😀

[covert hinge]

marcus

is it easy

beating tibet

as mongolia

[brittle cypress]

I mean

what

[covert hinge]

its a question

[covert hinge]

insane

[merry sequoia]

rahhhh i have a feel for this game with my 8.1 hours and i have to waste my time now

and spend 8k hours just to never want to touch it again

[covert hinge]

is this good

[sudden thistle]

NO

[covert hinge]

why

[tiny iris]

Hows your tank design?

[covert hinge]

good i suppose

for hungary

its also cheap

[dusky burrow]

You're missing support companies

I would make it an 8/8 or 8/10

[brittle cypress]

Tank division with less attack than pure infantry moment

No you gotta fix your design and add support companies

[dusky burrow]

Yeah you need to fix your design

And actually since this is Hungary you actually want to do SPGs

[finite nacelle]

guys what a good country to play

[brittle cypress]

Union of Soviet socialist republics

[finite nacelle]

aight

[dusky burrow]

83.5 soft attack mmmmmm (spgs because that's the only mio we have) (also try to use basic heavy chasis if possible)

[heavy vigil]

what gun are you using

medium gun 1 ?

no extra turrets

[misty fossil]

40 reliability

[honest night]

Reliability to high

[misty fossil]

too* /s

[honest night]

If reliability is not 10 or below then it’s a bad tank

[icy crescent]

CHAT.
Pls name a not tooo minor country for me.

[raw widget]

portugal

[shut gazelle]

argentina

iran

[misty fossil]

south africa

[slim nexus]

Peru

[shut gazelle]

yugoslavia

[shut gazelle]

argentina is better

[ancient marsh]

spain

[slim nexus]

Shhh I know

[ancient marsh]

paraguay

[icy crescent]

Portugal.
I spammed Portugal so often by now, I appreciate the choice.
Good choice indeed. Unfortunately I gotta skip this one.

Argentina it is.

[honest night]

Brazil

[shut gazelle]

argentina on top

[shut gazelle]

what do you do as portugal

which path?

I started a save but gave up cuz it seemed boring

[icy crescent]

I often went Monarch for China, Iberia against Axis and normal Fascist with join to Axis.
This was the last game.
Anti-Bordergore. More or less.
And allowed my Mozambique and Angola to create their formables.

• my Oman to create Arabia.

[icy crescent]

Peru is cool, no question.
Having the option to create Gran Colombia AND Peru-Bolivia Confederation.
Many cores, good pop, not too powerful neighbours.

[shut gazelle]

Argentina has cores on whole south america👍

[icy crescent]

I mean, yeah.
So does Brazil and Chile, by extension Uruguay and Paraguay too.

[umbral agate]

why can hungary claim half of the world?

[dusky burrow]

Perhaps it'd look something like this

[icy crescent]

Because of their Uralic language.
Which is kind of half northern europe/asia.

[umbral agate]

i know but the urals are not in far eastern siberia

or iraq

[icy crescent]

I mean... the Uralic people got around.

[umbral agate]

to iraq?

[icy crescent]

I am no Historian.
Paradox magic.

[umbral agate]

fair

they should allow u to core it yk

core all the world

[slim nexus]

Because mongol empire

[shy birch]

Well this achievement is broken lol

Just got it by requesting a part of France from Germany after joining the Axis

Hurry everyone before they patch it!

[icy crescent]

Does Germany own sth in South America too by chance?

Be it Guyana or sth else?

Maybe Germany becomes a South American nation, when it owns sth there.
With Paradox coding, I wouldn't be surprised.

[shy birch]

Clean SA.

[icy crescent]

Curious.

[warped flint]

I wanna try sheeps mod again

last time I got stuck in the west

[heavy vigil]

congo

[dusky burrow]

Huuuuh

[vagrant crow]

WHAT

[misty fossil]

How do u only have 600 soft attack

[vagrant crow]

ATTRITE THIS MAN TO DEATH

[heavy vigil]

tbh low relia is fine

very common lol

[icy crescent]

I don't have GDR, but I could release myself as Belgium.

[dusky burrow]

There are only 6 SPGs in here, plus I forgot to apply MIOs to guns

[heavy vigil]

thats not very exciting but tbf the dlc tree isnt either

[dusky burrow]

So it should be more like 640

[misty fossil]

do you get enough mils to invest in planes

[heavy vigil]

hoi4 players will look at this and use it as their only singleplayer tank

[honest night]

Reliability is a fake stat it’s unimportant

[vagrant crow]

since when

[misty fossil]

based

[brave siren]

When will mp finally get a chat filter🥀

[misty fossil]

we all know HE slingers are king in wt

[vagrant crow]

doesnt attrition destroy your tank stockpile with low reliab

[honest night]

Just strat redeploy and don’t click bad tiles and you lose nothing

[honest night]

You shouldn’t have your tanks in area with bad supply anyways

and you add logi companies

[dusky burrow]

Probably the better way for Hungary tbh

Since aluminum

[vagrant crow]

but in russia it gets very hot and very cold i assume you dont want to lose 500 tanks to a cold spell or heatwave

[dusky burrow]

What about the flame tank

[misty fossil]

honestly

[honest night]

You just strat redeploy when you move and you lose nothing

[heavy vigil]

attrition is only forced on limke mountains and in jungles

like*

[vagrant crow]

what about marsh

[misty fossil]

if ur playing as a minor nation it would still be beneficial to build air imo

[honest night]

Marsh is forbidden terrain

[misty fossil]

cant rely on germany for air supremacy

[honest night]

You never click marsh tiles unless you have to

[vagrant crow]

what about snow

[honest night]

Snow is fine

[heavy vigil]

dont go into marshes with tanks

ever

[misty fossil]

you’re asking questions you cana snwer yourself

[heavy vigil]

marsh is actually ok to build marines for

[thick kettle]

things are looking tough in lwow.

[misty fossil]

deep snow:

[heavy vigil]

its the tile made by satan himself

[merry sequoia]

dont ask me i took america over with only infantry 💔

[thick kettle]

also what do you think of this 💔

[misty fossil]

Bice?

[merry sequoia]

i didnt even know i could recruit tanks until recently

[thick kettle]

❌

[heavy vigil]

excellent at dying

[dusky burrow]

What's that motorized and what mod is that

[uncut pollen]

the m44 was bad in war thunder

[honest night]

Maybe works for singleplayer will get you exiled in multiplayer

[thick kettle]

i

NEVER

[misty fossil]

false

[thick kettle]

play multiplayer

at all

[misty fossil]

m44 was peak

i love it

[thick kettle]

shock motorized

[misty fossil]

until you get strafed by a plane

[dusky burrow]

Are marshes really that bad when you have amtrac tanks?

[thick kettle]

also motorized shock troops

[merry sequoia]

ussr no i was gonna invade you 💔

[thick kettle]

marsh 💔

[uncut pollen]

or get 1 shoted by 1 mg round

[misty fossil]

who doesnt love playing in the mud

[heavy vigil]

yes

width is awful

[misty fossil]

dont get shot…?

[heavy vigil]

attrition is mega forced

[vagrant crow]

i feel like eastern front in spring would be quite terrible with low reliability tanks tho due to mud

[orchid lily]

I can barely keep a supplied army and afford an airforce as italy

[misty fossil]

skill issue

jk you’ll learn eventually

[orchid lily]

I know 😔

[misty fossil]

italy is tricky

[heavy vigil]

you have to remember youre sacrificing stats for reliability

[uncut pollen]

nah

[misty fossil]

I feel like you’d have more game influence as a naval country like japan

[dusky burrow]

Fair

[misty fossil]

italy is teetering on that major/minor threshold imo

[sudden thistle]

Indeed.com

[thick kettle]

Yes

[misty fossil]

i got my job from facebook marketplace

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1308354496493260831/1425612380834103378/kindness.gif

[uncut pollen]

:3

[orchid lily]

Imo Italy is almost more important than Germany

[vagrant crow]

yes but what if half ur tanks get destroyed not even in combat

[sharp sierra]

i got my job from my brother in law who was a manager at my place my application looked like shit i would never have gotten hired

[heavy vigil]

they wont

[misty fossil]

false

[heavy vigil]

you can strat redeploy

[misty fossil]

just dont call italy into ww2

[sudden thistle]

Don’t let half of them get destroyed

[warped flint]

So uh what should I plan on doing ?

[misty fossil]

italy is quite literally irrelevant

[sudden thistle]

Hear me out

[misty fossil]

they’re a liability

[sudden thistle]

Calvary only

Mobile warfare

And no tanks

[heavy vigil]

artillery only

[dusky burrow]

Yeah mud is very bad attritionally

[uncut pollen]

invade poland as early as possible

[heavy vigil]

tbh 1937 war rush in sheeps is easy

[thick kettle]

rail cut

[orchid lily]

A strong Italy secures the Mediterranean Sea and uses it to build a giant navy that almost rivals the British one, keeps the front in Africa fortified to prevent a southern naval invasion, diverses Frances forces to guarantee a quick victory, usually has enough leftover divisions to aid barbarossa significantly and defend the northern coast

Talking about player Italy btw

Not ai lmao

[misty fossil]

Im talking about ai italy

[sudden thistle]

U should declare war on the Netherlands instead

Trust

[uncut pollen]

wowie

why?

[misty fossil]

against britain ai you only need 5 carriers

easy

[sharp sierra]

who here plays multi player

[orchid lily]

Are carriers strong?

Haven't considered them a lot

[misty fossil]

humour me this

remember what happened to japan

carriers are gods among mortals

[sudden thistle]

A funny thing will happen

[heavy vigil]

i was invited to play mp rn but instead im slacking off at playing wt

[orchid lily]

A lot of things happened to Japan be specific

[sudden thistle]

Me

[misty fossil]

battle of midway

[uncut pollen]

i get invated?

[sharp sierra]

like how long do you usually play for

[sudden thistle]

That’s part of it

[sudden thistle]

5-7 hours

It is draining

[orchid lily]

Well I wanna build carriers but as I said I cannot easily sustain both an industry for my land army and a strong airforce

[sharp sierra]

sheesh man

[orchid lily]

Spending more on one causes me to lack on another

[misty fossil]

exactly

[sharp sierra]

just for that reason alone its kind of off the table for me to begin with

[dusky burrow]

Not the only build, a typical build is an air-mass mob build

[warped flint]

Im going to do this later

[dusky burrow]

And Italy is just mass mob fodder essentially

[warped flint]

I can't breath out of my nose cause of allergys

[sudden thistle]

If u play with freinds it’s way better

Since u can just save and do it later

[dusky burrow]

Italy isn't normally strong in MP because it gets few chances at expansion

[sharp sierra]

i can barely play any game for more than 2 hours

[slim nexus]

I did a good review I think

[sharp sierra]

before i get tired of it

[dusky burrow]

Yugo... between 1937 and 1940... and southern France, and that's it

[merry sequoia]

nooooo i cant go to war with britain rn 😭

[dusky burrow]

Naiton?

[safe wing]

1-2 weeks for me

[orchid lily]

Sometimes I get in the zone and play for like

3 hours

[ancient marsh]

SOVIETS KEEP NAVAL INVADING MAKE IT STOP

[safe wing]

Before I jump ship

[merry sequoia]

mexico

[sudden thistle]

How tf do u play for a week straight

[ancient marsh]

dude they just did the most comprehensive naval landing ive ever seen ai done

[slim nexus]

I’ve never seen the soviets naval invade outside of Türkiye

[ancient marsh]

literally 20 divs were concentrated into HELSINKI

[sharp sierra]

i just completed stalker clear sky and the longest i sat and played was like 2 and a half hours

[heavy vigil]

hes a patient guy

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-shrek-meme-shrek-good-question-good-question-gif-7176451729184982026

[ancient marsh]

and they just flooded by entire coast

[dusky burrow]

Oof

[ancient marsh]

ive never seen the ai do that

[slim nexus]

That one mod that adds like 100 start dates

[sharp sierra]

those games are kinda stressful tho

[safe wing]

Lot of stuff happening in my Western Roman Empire campaign

Atm

[merry sequoia]

well mexico but i own the united states now 😭

[sudden thistle]

Just ignore the stress

[dusky burrow]

That would do it

[uncut pollen]

me too

[sudden thistle]

Have fun

[uncut pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-2375696290766999196

[dusky burrow]

How's resistance?

[sharp sierra]

when i played shadow of chernobyl i was shitting bricks the whole time

[merry sequoia]

well im not keep on working

[orchid lily]

Well I've seen Britain do like 5 naval invasions in 5 different spots within a week

[merry sequoia]

whats that?

[sharp sierra]

the entire games vibe and ambience just leaves you depressed

[orchid lily]

Each one with 20+ divisions btw

[uncut pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/i-cant-take-this-social-distancing-anymore-cat-jump-kitty-gif-16756741

[orchid lily]

HOW do they do that bro 💔

[sudden thistle]

By naval invading with 20+ divs

Duh

[sharp sierra]

they make lots of cheap and ok ish units

[orchid lily]

They had lost like 15 million men

[merry sequoia]

this?

[orchid lily]

India has to run out of people eventually 😭

[dusky burrow]

Yes

[slim nexus]

I saw Afghanistan destroy India once

[dusky burrow]

Now multiply that by all of the 42 US states

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-gif-19708758

[dusky burrow]

And that is soaking millions of manpower

[ancient marsh]

just throw on secret police and call it a day

itll start to die down

[dusky burrow]

Also take a look at here

[brittle cypress]

the only mp games up rn are that random guy who always says things in blue "1941 germany wanted" and nodisc games

tragic

[ancient marsh]

also you get a focus to reintegrate the southwest

[merry sequoia]

ohhhh so nuke them until they comply?

[orchid lily]

I use martial law if garrisons give me problems

[ancient marsh]

i mean

brutal oppression is an option

[dusky burrow]

As you see, since I console edited it to add manpower and occupy the entire world, Hungary has 1.34 million people in garrisons

[dusky burrow]

No don't do that

[ancient marsh]

idk his mp situation

[dusky burrow]

Or martial law for non-fascist countries

[ancient marsh]

ye

[merry sequoia]

huh

[dusky burrow]

Oh

[ancient marsh]

okay tahts not bad if you're on mil governor

[dusky burrow]

So that might not be the problem

What do the other numbers look like

[ancient marsh]

if you just conquered them they're gonna be high

for a bit

[merry sequoia]

i think the problem is my training divs

[thick kettle]

also the USSR justified on me because of besrabia

i didn't accept since they were at war with several powers, and yeah no lwow fell lmaoo

[heavy vigil]

no nazi imagery/flags please.

[dusky burrow]

What recruitment law are you on btw

[merry sequoia]

uhhh lemme look

[thick kettle]

ooops.

[merry sequoia]

limited conscription im not at war rn

[gray gust]

STALKER MENTIONED!!!!!

Is there a Stalker mod

[brittle cypress]

no

well actually

there might be

[sharp sierra]

for hoi4 i wish

[brittle cypress]

but there is a metro mod

[merry sequoia]

i bumped it to extensive

[brittle cypress]

i take it back

it exists

[icy crescent]

Without and with faction (Axis).
Yes, it appears to be bugged indeed.
Unless the requirement changes when at war.

[merry sequoia]

ye its been bumped up to extensive it was limited

would suck if i sent troops back to ireland tho

[dusky burrow]

Wait how did you get Ireland?

[merry sequoia]

naval invasion earlier before the manpower crisis of 43

i want this thing but i dont know how to do wars for specific territories

[dusky burrow]

Yeah you can't peace them out

Until you invade the home islands themselves

[merry sequoia]

if you cant peace em slime em 🙏

[heavy vigil]

only exists in vic 3

and prob other games idk

[misty fossil]

dont stalk people

[gray gust]

???

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/yeat-tonka-gif-25271654

[patent thistle]

i am litterally just battleplanning without a single drop of oil-

[tepid kraken]

really

[misty fossil]

Never ask what Hans did it Vraks

[merry sequoia]

well time to kill uk they just blockaded my oil

[sudden thistle]

why that one

[merry sequoia]

alright its looking bad for uk

[sudden thistle]

ez win

trust

[merry sequoia]

yeah ima clap them frfr

[tawny galleon]

Rate the division (im new to division building)

[merry sequoia]

the uk just losts its navy to me 😭

[tawny galleon]

based on that last screenshot you playing mexico?

[merry sequoia]

yeppers

[fair horizon]

Magic power*

[patent thistle]

wall of text jumpscare

i aint reading that blyat

[dusky burrow]

Are you in position to invade Great Britain or no?

[merry sequoia]

uh yes ish i took out canada

and the entire continent of europe is trying to naval invade the mainlands

😭

[dusky burrow]

Ah I see

Good luck

Hope you have good marines

[merry sequoia]

wth

bulgaria??

[uncut pollen]

SOMETHING INEVER COULD DO

[dusky burrow]

Oh never mind

[uncut pollen]

EVEN IN MY DREAMS

[merry sequoia]

alr its gg for uk

dont block my oil 🙏

idk what happened to my other screenshots i just dont think my computer took them 😭

huh...

i want all of canada tho...

idk what bulgarias doing here

[uncut pollen]

just passing by

[merry sequoia]

this game has taught me why beginners shouldnt play with historical ai off 😭

[uncut pollen]

this game taught me to never play as poland with historical ai on

[sharp sierra]

i mean u can dumpster them both if u play right

[uncut pollen]

they dumpster me faster than i can say dumpster

[split sable]

What does "organization +1.0" mean?

Not "+1%"

[worldly glacier]

“oh boy i will play as ethiopia because i am ethiopian and i like games with ethiopian representation”

the evil and nefarious italy:

[dusky burrow]

Honestly the ethiopian tree is not too good not too bad, one of the problems is that ethiopia wasn't even on the map for a lot of the time

That said it is doable to win as Ethiopia

[worldly glacier]

who’s in a worse situation

[dusky burrow]

Ethiopia versus whom?

[worldly glacier]

i mean

like in general

[safe wing]

Axum (Ethopia) is more fun in Attila Total War TBH

considering you're enemies (bar the Sassanids who are boss faction) are on the same playing field as you

[heavy vigil]

it means + 1 org flat

[honest vale]

will the asia DLC give a focus to thailand?

[heavy vigil]

#hearts-of-iron-news

[runic spoke]

mech only france was a mistake

[dusky burrow]

Mech template?

[runic spoke]

the 24 on the italian border are 18w pure mech and the ones on the german border are 36 width pure mech

[dusky burrow]

You are also doing about as well as mech should, which is holding

[runic spoke]

support comps are hospitals, armored engineer, anti air, super heavy howitzers, and 1 more thing i forgot

[dusky burrow]

flame tanks? Or something else

[runic spoke]

ye but 900 oil consumption 💀

[runic spoke]

naw it wasnt flame

uhhh

maybe it was just normal arty?

[dusky burrow]

Also btw you're out of fuel

[runic spoke]

ye if i battleplan for a day i run out lol

[honest vale]

i have spent the past 8 minutes looking at the turkey focus tree to see what path is the ottoman one

for turkey ong

i got the bosporus DLC ts confusing

[dusky burrow]

It's on the left

[honest vale]

thanks

[ancient marsh]

gud?

[dusky burrow]

You have to fully integrate the is bank, hold multiparty elections, vote Adnan Menderes and his DP into power, and then a popup will give you the Ottomans

And then you will have a civil war with the Kemalists

[dusky burrow]

You could add AA and put on the best fire control and radar

Perhaps even another gun and better armor, but that will skyrocket costs at the same time

[ancient marsh]

ye i wanted to get at least 1 out by the time i dec on allies

doing ger emp

its jun but im going to declare jan at the earliest

[dusky burrow]

AA because you might get targeted with carriers (actually you will for sure)

[opal nymph]

Elect the Demokrats to get Ottomans

[dusky burrow]

My bad, misremembered the party name but yeah it's the DP for Demokrat Parti

[edgy wedge]

For how long will the expansion pass be up?

[ancient marsh]

until the dlc releases

[heavy vigil]

until the end of time

[edgy wedge]

Amen

Like

The heat death?

[heavy vigil]

woah

we dont know that yet

[edgy wedge]

Lol right

[gusty oracle]

do I have a chance?

[final ingot]

of course

do they have a chance?

[misty fossil]

i forgot turkey has a focus tree

[misty fossil]

change that into dual purpose

and add radar and a better fire control

those 3 things are vital

actually no

[north spoke]

can someone teach me how to do operation sealion? il naval invade into scotland but I always get pushed out

[misty fossil]

knock 3 secondary guns out and replace them with anti air, then use max BB armour and best heavy guns, then add FCS and radar. AA is absolutely vital to your survival

[misty fossil]

how do you usually do it

[north spoke]

I go from hamburg into scotland, try to cut off scotland from the rest, and get swarmed by a billion british divisions and get pushed out

[gusty oracle]

yes

[misty fossil]

you need a few things

first, cas and air cover

second, a navy

third, use proper offensive templates

[north spoke]

I just use the marines that i get stock after researching.

im assuming they're bad

[misty fossil]

what i would do is have a main battle fleet with some escort destroyers to protect convoys

ugh i mean someone can demo you

its hard to explain since you have to start planning for it by game start

[north spoke]

Im just obtaining knowledge for a new game

[misty fossil]

i usually decimate the british fleet first then sealion them straight in dover

never had a problem

[north spoke]

Is there any naval templates in specific i should make a lot of?

[misty fossil]

use the 8 marines 8 mountaineers one

get rid of AT

[north spoke]

I usually have some 3000 bombers and Cas and 2000 fighters by 1939 so thats covered

[misty fossil]

make it 36cw

[north spoke]

is it possible to replace the mechanized with motorized in the event that im broke

[misty fossil]

dont use motorised

the mech is there just for hardness

and hp

[north spoke]

alr

[dusky burrow]

No, France will wreck the entirety of Italy

[fickle thicket]

then paradrop if they still have disjointed gov

[dusky burrow]

8 marines 8 mountaineers?

[misty fossil]

or 8 marines 9-10 mountaineers

idk

[dusky burrow]

I'm kidding, but yes you kill France that way

[fickle thicket]

personally using paras is too cheesy for me

either tonks or shock troops

[north spoke]

what ship designs should I use as germany to start making ASAP for sealion>

[dusky burrow]

Mountaineers if you're in base HOI4

Check our recent #ask-for-help-here for more info

[ancient marsh]

tbh this isnt a serious naval game

[fickle thicket]

should def slide aat frfr

[misty fossil]

nah its called larping

[ancient marsh]

i replaced 2 of what was there with AA

[misty fossil]

i like to be efficient

i use a naval mod that changes components and such but this is kinda what i go for for that mod

heavy priority on AA and speed

[north spoke]

what mod?

that looks interesting

[misty fossil]

carriers are the gods among mortals

vanilla navy rework

[north spoke]

thx

[dusky burrow]

aat?

[misty fossil]

make sure to check out the changed mechanics

since it slightly changes vanilla mechanics

[fickle thicket]

arms against tyranny

[misty fossil]

anti anti tank

[ancient marsh]

well i built a big ass navy and the uk is scared to engage it

so

i have like 12 of these

20+ of these

tons of higher quality screens

[misty fossil]

too much secondary

ive observed BBs dont contribute a lot of light attack no matter how much DP guns you have

leave that to the dedicated CLs

[misty fossil]

you 100% need FCS and radar because they boost hit chance a lot

BBs are there just to provide AA cover for the carriers

[ancient marsh]

im gonna listen back on this for the plan z game but like

britain is already too scared to engage me with these

i have it on high aggression and they still refuse to engage

[misty fossil]

in vanilla they also eat up a lot of naval attack from aircrafts and enemy ships but in VNR aircrafts are coded to always attack the carriers first

[misty fossil]

they never do

but once they do

[tepid crown]

Ai actually sucks

[misty fossil]

this is the single best naval engagement ive had

its like encircling 300 allied divisions

[tepid crown]

Unfortunately there’s not really much Pdx can do to fix it either

Mostly because they don’t understand it’s bad

[misty fossil]

CSM?

lol imagine

[tepid crown]

Can. Lmao

[feral lark]

uh...?

[ancient marsh]

too late

[heavy vigil]

they do

it has to be bad though to be beatable for the average player

or around that level

whats difficult isnt making the ai good/bad but its hard to add difficulties because that would require a lottt of work

and finetuning

[misty fossil]

based and bluepilled

[misty fossil]

how

[dusky burrow]

Honestly normal vanilla is more accurate in this regard, sometimes you might not see the carrier so you go for different targets

[misty fossil]

not to be pedantic but it also depends on weather and sea conditions

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

True

[misty fossil]

if its raining and super overcast then good luck locating the enemy fleet at all

[dusky burrow]

True

However in that case I think the result in normal vanilla and VNR is the same

carriers become not particularly useful

[misty fossil]

wdym

i usually have my carriers average anywhere from 15-20x my BB kills

[dusky burrow]

During raining and overcast weather?

[misty fossil]

nah

in my playthroughs overall

[dusky burrow]

I see

Yeah that can be different in VNR versus vanilla

[fair horizon]

where carrier?

[ancient marsh]

no carrier

[fair horizon]

smh

times have changed bud, the age of the battleship is dead

unless you can strap tomahawk missiles on them of course

[atomic grove]

british raj did "the jewel becomes the crown" focus

[fair horizon]

what does that do?

[atomic grove]

it gives the entire royal navy to the british raj, turns the raj democratic, puts churchill as leader, and makes the british raj free

they can only do the focus if britain has surrender progress though

thats why playing a game with loyalist raj is annoying

especially if you take too long in killing the uk or you're farming war score in london

oh and it also makes the raj a major

[ancient marsh]

i have enough hours to know better

and i still decided to invade without a collab

[atomic grove]

how tf have they still not capitulated

[fair horizon]

never had that issue tbh

[atomic grove]

usually you only need to get to like sverdslovsk or chelyabinsk

if u dont have collabs

[ancient marsh]

ik idk whats going on

[atomic grove]

because you probably have never encountered loyalist raj

[ancient marsh]

apparently they're almost there

ive just frontlined the last year i reached the 3 cities in like 90 days

[fair horizon]

i mean i have but when i take britian i dont wait

[ancient marsh]

finally

dont even wanna play anymore 💔

[atomic grove]

no wonder

[fair horizon]

kinda intresting though

[dusky burrow]

victory

sweet sweet victory

[ancient marsh]

i still have 2/3 of the achievements left

some of these are so miserable

[dusky burrow]

True

Like don't die for your country

[ancient marsh]

?

that ones bugged

pretty sure it'd be impossible otherwise

if you just kill france and britain and annex poland in the peace treaty you get it

regardless of casualties

[atomic grove]

now that i think about it

i cant believe how much achievements that i couldve probably gotten

especially since i have 1200 hours

[ancient marsh]

i've only got 88 and you have less than i do

most of them are just so tedious

or just ridiculously hard

mostly the first achievements added and the latest achievements added

[atomic grove]

i think ive gotten like most of the hard achievements

but not the very very hard ones

[ancient marsh]

idk if there were more separate peace options most of them would be a lot less tedious

in general more separate peace options are a necessity

[atomic grove]

i thought u had 2/3

[ancient marsh]

2/3 of the achievements left

[atomic grove]

oh

i thought u had 2/3 of them

[misty fossil]

i have 17 achievements

[drifting igloo]

i wish Resistance Did more like remove all supply for a railway for a few months

[sharp sierra]

f that

[hoary mortar]

HELL NO

I'd be scremaing

if it was a player controlled resistance then maybe

Anyways gn fellas

[drifting igloo]

supply is too easy

[topaz sequoia]

join mp2

[sharp sierra]

mp irl

[midnight flame]

Do I need tanks to invade Norway as sweeden in 1936?

Or can I mostly focus on infantry and calvary

[heavy vigil]

Youre invading norway

A mountainous country

[midnight flame]

Yeah

[heavy vigil]

Tanks arent useful.. Regardless...

[midnight flame]

Oh ok

So Calvary, Mountaineers and infantry?

[heavy vigil]

Mountaineers and inf are fine

Cavalry kinda sucks

[midnight flame]

Ok

I tried to invade denmark but it was a massive stalemate so I reset the game and put my eyes on norway

[rich bramble]

when was the pearl of the orient seas release?

[crystal marsh]

Along with the entire expansion, on november 20th

[tiny iris]

HOI4 made me lose so much sleep last nigh

Never playing Bulgaria again

[digital aurora]

wait if i change a divisions templates to replace all the light tanks with medium tanks it will retain those light tanks until it recieves more right?

[gusty oracle]

no

[brittle cypress]

The light tanks will be removed and sent to stockpile and you will have a tank with no tanks in it

Unless you have mediums in stockpile, then it’ll fill up what it can

If you’re doing a replacement, just swap light battalions one by one to medium as you can afford it

[simple citrus]

huh

[misty fossil]

tanks just dont work in norway because of mountains & supply

[gusty oracle]

kaiserredux?

[untold smelt]

Is there any mod to make the AI a bit more of a challenge? I've already tried mods which make the AI use good templates. But I'm curious if I can get something better.

[gilded pike]

guys

didn't shower for a week

[fair horizon]

nice

[drifting igloo]

I think for landings it might be useful

Mountaineers with medium tanks …

[heavy vigil]

Space marines are always good

[gusty oracle]

I did that recently

[heavy vigil]

You do not need infantry with tanks

[gusty oracle]

but lets just say I was outside the whole time

[gilded pike]

good for u

but not for me...

ig

[gusty oracle]

were you camping or in your room?

[drifting igloo]

Some mp servers mention inf and Calvary…. Not special forces …..

[heavy vigil]

Then you dont need it

[drifting igloo]

Sooo not breaking the rules

[heavy vigil]

Lol

Useless in mountains without mountaineers

Terrain debuff and forced attrition

[simple citrus]

this shit so ass bruh

greater hungary my ass 💔

[drifting igloo]

Mmm where’s the fuel

[indigo violet]

Bittersteel when he sees someone with 0 fuel. (he’s gonna crash out)

[atomic grove]

bittersteel when he realizes you did not build refineries

[dusky burrow]

IDK why, but I'd say you should probably use mountaineers or mountaineer marines against Norway

[indigo violet]

Eh

I invade norway most of the time with standard infantry and am fine

[dusky burrow]

I mean Norway barely has the troops to cover the border

So that's fine

But if you're fighting a player Norway that might be a different story

[indigo violet]

True

[simple citrus]

i'm building refineries okay

they're on their way

[drifting igloo]

I’m stealing the fuel

[indigo violet]

Imagine you will need coal to make synthetic refineries work now

:3

[marsh ravine]

Crashout incoming

Don't give them ideas

[indigo violet]

I think they are past the point of ideas, and are at the stage of making the shit work

[uneven portal]

guys rate the borders

[drifting igloo]

Great

[uneven portal]

australia's in izmir

rn

[celest dirge]

what is the difference between Great War and the Redux version mod?

[uneven portal]

just play gwr

[dusky burrow]

coal = crashout material

[simple citrus]

dam

[slim nexus]

It’s been 29,565 days since we lost Tannu Tuva

[simple citrus]

left or right

[heavy vigil]

Logically this means the dlc release is 35 days away

[heavy vigil]

Right is always better unless you have 9+ line artillery

In which case your division sucks and right side is better

[simple citrus]

okie

:3

[slim nexus]

29,585 if you count leap years

[gilded pike]

right if vs bots

left if mp

multiplayer

[misty fossil]

left sucks

[misty fossil]

how

[heavy vigil]

No??

[dusky burrow]

#hoi4-general message

You can stack a lot of attack just by using support companies

[gilded pike]

yes vro

[misty fossil]

bro

[gilded pike]

what

[misty fossil]

read the tooltip……………

click on the button and see what it says vro

then crunch the numbers

[gilded pike]

idc

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-car-buff-imposter-among-us-impostor-gif-6333245066570212250

[celest dirge]

what is the difference between Great War and the Redux version mod? i know GRX is frequenly updated, but in term of gameplay which feel more immersive?

[indigo violet]

Grx imo

Especially with their new germany update

[stuck grail]

can someone help me learn to invade uk with navy

im trying so hard

still the navy is not working

[celest dirge]

As germany?

[stuck grail]

yes

[celest dirge]

Moved to #ask-for-help-here, we will continue here.

[misty fossil]

you mean the update that got rid of all german alt history paths because the devs dont want people to have fun?

(not my words)

[safe wing]

Is that the HMS dreadnaught by any chance

[safe wing]

Ah still a goated ship though

[indigo violet]

The one that in my experience was clunky af yes

And was absolute bollocks even for alt-history standards

[misty fossil]

you're wrong

its not a goated ship

its the goated ship

right next to the victory

[misty fossil]

i see

never tried the mod so i dont get to say anything

[indigo violet]

Like yes ofc hothead willy decides in 1910 to backstab his only ally to form the unstable and wildly unpopular hre which has been dead for over 100 years..

Only path i do miss is the one where germany contains the kaiser and democratises

[misty fossil]

but people wouldnt stop complaining about it

[indigo violet]

People just hate on things these days

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604

they do have a point though

why would devs feel the need to axe alternate history altogether

[indigo violet]

Its the creators mod which they publish and let people play for free so they can decide what they wanna do with it

[misty fossil]

and people can choose to not play that mod if they dont like the direction the mod is headed for

[indigo violet]

Yes but they can do that without hating on the mod for it

[misty fossil]

meh

[indigo violet]

Nothing stops the people complaining to do their own mod as well

[gilded pike]

yh

soviet has not chance to breakthrogh

[indigo violet]

Whats like a good doctrine for poland?

Mass mob?

[gilded pike]

nah

always only superior firepower

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004116375574413395/1326266338611826839/attachment.gif

[gilded pike]

hahahah

ofc

satisfaying

yh soviets are dumb

[indigo violet]

Superior firepower? Interesting

[gilded pike]

ye cuz look on screenshots

[indigo violet]

Do you go hedgehog around warsaw or actual frontline?

When fighting like germany

[gilded pike]

no

im attacking

[indigo violet]

Damn

._.

[gilded pike]

cuz they are weak

like really

[indigo violet]

i guess that works for you and not me since i go gbp…

Should try sfp then

[gilded pike]

what is gbp?

im doing the bear artillery achievment btw

and no more patritions

all other ive alr done

[lapis snow]

Grand Battle-Plan

GBP

[gilded pike]

ah ok

btw

doing more

[heavy vigil]

Why gbp when defending

Its terrible defensively

[gilded pike]

btw template

[vapid marlin]

Hey, I want to ask if you do A-team recruitments here

[gilded pike]

they are cooked

[vapid marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/nicholas-ii-nikolai-ii-nicolas-ii-romanov-tsar-gif-11737360070836007700

[gilded pike]

yh bro

i see

they will caputilate with capturing stalingrad moscow and leningrad

ik

[misty fossil]

fun and games still you have to start pushing

[gilded pike]

yh

[misty fossil]

casey how do you mass produce mechanised

[runic spoke]

im not casey but just invest 100 army xp into production cost and it goes from 8 IC to 4

then get the -3% production cost from a motorized MIO and now its 3.76

[misty fossil]

cheers

also hi not casey but just invest 100 army xp into production cost and it goes from 8 IC to 4 im dad

[gilded pike]

theyre crazy

[heavy vigil]

Put mils on it, have steel, have rubber

Edit it to be half cost for 100 xp

Apply the MIO for a bit more cost reduction

[tropic lance]

battle royale europe

place your bets

[runic spoke]

europe completely balkanized and then theres just poland

[tropic lance]

I should probably mention that france and england are exiled

(in africa)

[misty fossil]

would the cutting corners policy make sense

or do i go with heavy gantry

[gilded pike]

lesss go

[heavy vigil]

The truck MIO has that?

I think it does in sheeps actually cuz bloat

[misty fossil]

oh nah it doesnt

idk

i love bloat

[heavy vigil]

In sheep you could do that

[misty fossil]

stop making it sound bad

[heavy vigil]

Idk if its changed

[misty fossil]

you havent answered my question about if i could use that mod you showed me in sp

[heavy vigil]

Sheeps mod earlier this year

[heavy vigil]

If u want

[misty fossil]

oh nah

[heavy vigil]

Its an mp mod tho

[gilded pike]

yay

[mellow spire]

Guys any advice for playing Sweden?

[heavy vigil]

Dont lose too many men

You dont have much manpower

[mellow spire]

Fr lol

[heavy vigil]

Probably should go mass mob for that reason

[mellow spire]

I got like 20 divs of ok Inf and manpower is basically 0

[indigo violet]

Idk its what poland starts with i believe so i just sticked with it

[mellow spire]

I plan to fight Norway to reform Sweden, should I?

[tropic lance]

...

it is literally impossible to see with all the capitals

one hour freezes the game

[indigo violet]

Holy shit

What mod is that?

[gilded pike]

yo

[willow plume]

which country used gbp irl?

superior firepower is americas doctrine

mass mob is the ussrs

[gilded pike]

germany

[willow plume]

and mobile warfare is Germanys

can u explain?

[indigo violet]

Germany used manoeuvre warfare in ww2

[gilded pike]

no

or

wait

yes

sry

[gilded pike]

yes

[indigo violet]

We quite literally invented blitzkrieg

[gilded pike]

gbp japan

[indigo violet]

And the uk i think

[gilded pike]

ye

[indigo violet]

The americans never had it with organisation and planning…

More like "just bomb the shit out of everything"

[willow plume]

ok so gbp is the uk and japan

i feel like gbp is just a generic doctrine

[indigo violet]

And then act like they won everything single handedly after showing up a few years too late…

[indigo violet]

Its like the old outdated ww1 doctrine

[willow plume]

they kinda did in the pacific

[willow plume]

ahhhh that makes sense

not so much in europe

[indigo violet]

I give him the pacific campaign because the allies were literally occupied with europe, but its still showing up late, not to mention them selling guns to both sides

[willow plume]

yeah it was the soviets who won in europe

[indigo violet]

I wouldnt say that, it was a combined world struggle

[gilded pike]

yay

[willow plume]

yeah the usa gave a lot of lend lease

and the royal navy was a thing

[willow plume]

theyve basically starved to death

[gilded pike]

wopw

guys

what do i do

[indigo violet]

Poland raaaah

[indigo violet]

Oops

Pilsudski would be proud tho

[lapis snow]

womp womp
should've gone masss mob

[gilded pike]

vro its too late

[indigo violet]

Do a Pilsudski and gather everyone you can

[sudden thistle]

Mass mob is life

[lapis snow]

how do you not have the ws to increase conscription?

[sudden thistle]

Life is mass mob