#hoi4-general
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Germany...
wonder if the belgian economy can manage a few medium tank divisions
ive figured it all out now...
no
belgium by itself is like playing manchukuo
unless u get more cores
luxembourg core take it or leave it
we dont talk about luxembourg
except for the fact it has some steel
its genuinely so ass that the rexist path only gets that 1 core
Playing historical Belgium rn and I just watched the Germans casually raid my fortline and I have nothing to stop them
tho this focus is nice
you basically just get on your knees for adolf in that path
I love monarchist germany tbh, one of my favourite germanys
not really tho
you dont give them anything
Communist is the worst imo
and im just gonne use it to attack germany
should i continue my monarchist infectiouspathogenplethoraof run?
thats like saying you love eating garlic bread
i think u forgot democratic germany
i mean everyone loves monarchies
commie germany is like the 2nd worst
but im not saying its bad
me when i absolute my monarchy:
Ok democratic germany is true giga chad #1 true
honestly same a little
me when hoi4
u just put commie propaganda in your neighbours
and then wait till like 1939
and puppet them
1939 aint even that bad tbf
No no, i love hoi gameplay, but communist germany is just not fun for me
i mean thats not evne bad
couldnt be me
i hate this game
and still have 1600 hours
im starting to get bored of hoi4 and im playing it less so im just waiting for the asia dlc to release
i have formed
Guys, anybody knows how to stop the production of old planes? I even manually deleted the line e created a new one with the most recent model, manually decommissioned the old model and even gift the stocks to the allies. Still can't figure it out how to stop those old model production
i started doing achievement because i got bored
every difficult formable that is humanely possible and wont make you actually lose all of your sanity just for 1 factory and 1k extra manpower i have already formed
the replayability kinda sucks in this game
on historical you're very limited in some cases and its always the same
and ahistorical is just cancer
genuinely unplayable unless you're lucky and everyone does normal shit
you have 1600 hours
dont eb surprised\
fair
just play mods
i only have about 1200
but i also have 1200 hours in eu4
and i have no problems there
with replayability
nahh
Reichskommissariat + with Festung Europa and West Russian War submods is so good imo
maybe because you feel that the hoi4 mechanics of playing minor nations over and over again feels repetitive?
then dont complain about replayability, cause your ignoring like 80% of content
Not really
but lwk festung europa bugs my like ideology screen
ah yes i forgot that mods are official content and part of the game
maybe form macedonia like 3 times on ironman and no restarts in a row
never said that but ight, and who does it matter who made it?
its content for this game
so why care?
And it’s fun
cant be bothered to argue because you missed my point
especially those schizo paths in kx
also kinda mb for forgetting to mention that i meant vanilla replayability
yea, a game with limiting content is gonna get boring after a while
why do you think people developed mods in the first place?
because devs cant be so fast
what does schizo even mean in hoi4 slang
is it like stuff where
anything
u form the inca empire as tannu tuva
its just a funny buzzword for some people idk why
u form the roman empire as finland
absurd stuff, and absolute crazy buffs
Really? Only bug i found was the requirements for total victory not working…
like no point in getting defeated
alright
like the sub-ideology gets displayed 2 times, for example facism and national socialism
like on top of each other
still a good mod tho
i dont get this one at all
once i did the second focus mentioned here
and he got sent to congo
???
no but he's not even my general
i'd very much like to get him as an advisor tho and the check says that i have to complete either of those 2 focuses
but
this is the second focus mentioned
and it clearly states that he goes to the congo
and the other one requires capitualiting first
🙏
apparently that modifier exists
am i missing something
What do you think your missing
I did a focus to join the allies I'm not in it thanks uk
hello yalls
Hello
Yo
wassup yalls?
Chats dead currently
Hoi4
alr
when does the dlc come out?
?
november
oof
After the explosion of the sun
I have 0
Do what germany did during the battle of berlin
recruit everyone.
infra lv 6?
Well your building it currently
great frontline
Cant
yeah but 5 is max?
worth
It
heirs of the roman empire btw
Swimming lesson
1939 and 68 divs as the Dutch is that good or bad ?
depends what kind of divs
Inf
Most likely shit.
whats you army doctrine
Non
NONE??
What's about to ask now I have xp
cant believe this
pick a doctrine
What's the best you guys think?
any doctrine is better than nothing
we were actualyl able to build some tanks in a reasonable amount of time
germany should be easy to defeat with 4 medium tank divs
considering how they're busy with the soviets
except in extreme situations
its so much easier and more fun to play with them
yeah thats a good point
Going grand battle plan cus of the defensive buff
since u dont need to train ur divisions to 20%
and the debuffs arent even that terrible
yeah 10% isnt that bad
and construction speed also doesnt matter atp
every hoi4 player neglects naval (including me)
ehh construction speed might be important
eh
its still possitive
and i have nothing to build atp
no building slots on cores anyway
id say build anti air
or supply hubs but supply hubs are too expensive
idk why they cost 3 times as much as a factory
anti air would be a good idea but not when germany probably wont even be able to cover the front
at bare minimum you need to add support anti air in this
ideally add support arty as well
the leftmost divs are awful btw, you shouldn't use them, only use those on the right
A yes a 210 day focus
ill just wait until they're deep into the soviets
ive just started using cas
its really useful
at the very least u need to prevent them from using their cas
yeah it is nice
but i find it hard to make air if you're not a major ngl
building air from scratch now would take a long time
we have fully reverted back to WW1 tactics
try licence production
u might be able to do that
itll cost some civs though
ngl cant even be bothered 😭
feels like vanilla ethiopia weirdly, just running to where the bubble is red
?
can u explain?
whereever i am starting to lose i have to divert a few units to save, and its been like that for several months now
ahh that makes sense
i'd say thats pretty great
u can hold out as ethiopia?
1 million men as belgium
that sounds tough ngl
mountains are easier to defend
like i dont think u could defend as well on plains
don't use bycicle and cav, you can't afford it
its my starting divs
doesn't matter
just never bothered to change it
bicycle divs?
it still uses more equipment for nothing and the templates of those probably are awful
u can change the template of starting divs
they use support equipment to go up to 6.4km/h (like cav)
motorized is overpriced inf
and yes, it's not worth it
just use cav if you want real mobile inf that doesn't cost 4x equivalent of inf and doesn't requires fuel to move fast
ok so cav has its uses then
slightly faster infantry
good for minor nations
that cant afford tanks
i never use cav
ive been told cav is quite bad tho
yes but it's not that good
you just use it as a replacement for mechanized in tanks until you get those or if you need a division to snake
I've never seen anyone do cav armies
it isn't
so idk if its worth it
it's just fast inf with a bit higher terrain penalities, consumes a bit more supply than inf but only cost about 20% more
motorized costs 400% more
400%...
yeah its better to motorise supply hubs instead of making motorised divisions
yes
also, that % doesn't takes into account the cost of fuel and rubber which will worsen the equation
cav just uses 20% more guns
that too
The 20% is the food for the horses. 
rn weirdly enough the only thing im running out of despite me spamming last stands is the AT, that is being arranged though
true, they like eating the guns :p
you shouldn't use AT in singleplayer
it's a waste
I usually dont anyway but Belgium has extra stuff for ATs and I decided if there's ever a game where I use ATs its this one
wait what?
i've decided
early tanks take soft attack?
its time
AT has 2 objectives :
- Hard attack
- Piercing
Except that, since hard attack only applies on hardness and AI divisions never exceed 45% hardness, there's really no point in trying to get any hard attack because you'll be better off concentrating on soft attack (you'll run into way more inf than tanks, and tanks will still get damaged by hard atk)
Plus, AI tanks are so ass that you'll always be able to pierce them with lvl 1 support Anti air in your divs, which you'll always have in the first place
in MP it's useful but not meta
It is a question of the entire division, not the individual tank.
If you go to the division designer, check the hardness bar.
If you don't have that many tanks it maybe only has 20% hardness.
This means 80% of the enemy soft attack reaches you and 20% of their hard attack.
well irl the flak 88 was a very good anti tank gun
so this makes sense
ok so dont use at in singleplayer
Multiplayer and more or less sweaty competitive wise is a different world. Yeah.
fair to say they werent prepared
What
Low armor.
But nice hardness.
Dunno how you managed that.
Bloat mod? Ok
is it a bt5 or a t26
man :(
:)
please maintain SHIFT when assigning field marshal frontlines 😭
(It's not that bad when a front is static but will save you when lines begin to move)
i dont remember lol
Franco-Spain moment.
reverse dunkerque
Does this also mean the germans will also successfully flee?
hopefully not
do u have a navy?
u got it in the peace deal?
stole it from them yeah
going well so far
just gotta fully control paris now and then rush berlin
but they're also having a war on many fronts
and once allies start spamming naval invasions its over
my 100 decent inf divs are enough
good
tho they arent really that deep yet as i attacked faster then planned
theyre gonna start getting pushed back
and the germans are running out of manpower
rich man's navy is all stolen
yeah they havent reached the a-a line yet
its funny but italy is a bigger problem
the crack cocaine spider though building a navy was for "suckas"
Stalin line must resist
and romania, apparently
half of romania is defending the italian occupation zone of france
gotta watch out for my equipment or they will steal it
lol
the romania ai should always use maintenance companies ngl
i could try capping germany first now that i think about it
nvm italy has 0 mp
and germany has 100k
its over
they let u capture enemy equipment right?
higher capture ratio yeah
jesus genuinely no one has manpower in the axis
bulgaria is also at 0
hungary at ~20k
romania at 125k
i just need the allies to distract them somewhere
finish the war and then you can take it during the peace deal
also i have decided to hold the line in france for now
and rush germany so they collapse
do u have the strength to push any further?
yeah
its easy but i just dont want to brainlessly push because my mp also isnt that high
im moving my tanks from france to germany
wrong kind of frontline 🤮
wdym
u can def take the ruhr region
its the worse of the two field marshal ones
situation is ok, there was a slight scare at Antwerp where the King wussed out early but I fixed it
take away their industry
one looks nice and the other one is grotesque abomination
ah ik what you mean
but
idk
how to like
choose
theres a diff?
between the 2
the Germans blew up my fort with a raid but they still cant push
yeah one is a single line
hold shift when you make the frontline
better
do they just look diff
much better ❤️
no
one lets all units be anywhere the other specifically sections the armies
both function the same really though
yeah the tanks are absolutely shredding the germans
beautiful
Should I ally with Austria or start an invasion?
I'm playing as Germany.
1936 yeah?
Yep.
invading will give u more control
take austria
but allying will give u more total resources
who says that austria isnt german? smh
unless theyre a core state
man ur doing well
is belgium fun?
huh japan is fighting the soviets somehow
thats been my experience
i mean it did happen irl
i've only played the fascist path so far
historically accurate
its kinda satisfying tho ngl
ive never played any of the benelux
didnt even take this focus yet, was doing other stuff
killed 460k germans so far, and only lost 62k to them
also killed 152k italians while losing 5.5k to them
which is ridiculous
if u go for denmark u can cut them off from norway
the King left me mid-war, so whenever I win I guess imma see if he comes back
altho there wont be many factories there
That's a lot of lives.
only war crimes if someone reports it
and there are people who say that you need forts to hold anything smh
i did actually have forts lol
but
they never got used
we're the ones pushing since day 1
child named mass mob
how far are you on your doc ?
let me delete that so it goes with your meme sir
You just never got army xp
766 hours in... 125 left to go... (until the new dlcs come out...)
you're so goated for this
im more of an intergrated support guy, couldnt tell you the difference but I think it has better bonuses
yeah as belgium you only get 75xp from focuses
1 div train
Send attaches
i also spent a ton of xp on tanks
here's a tip
I think integrated is better
this is me 1600 hours in
Since it gives bonuses for the support artillery which is cheaper
superior fire is rubbish if you dont have anything to deal with artillery
im forever loyal to my 9/1 infantry divs
im not gonna stop you then
I nearly got all achievements for Iran, but my spanish puppet capitulated and it controlled all of western europe so they got their land back and I've been kicked out
i dont have any of the iran ones lol
i almost got the one for getting greece
but turns out you need the dodacanese too
I could try that rn actually, my turkiye puppet has been chipping away at them
i dont think the germans can recover atp
thats an incompetent germany if ive seen one
Belgium raaaah
What's the best compliance law as the German empire?
None
civilian oversight
Compliance in the white countries none
or the mix secret police/harsh quota/forced labor but you need to micro
Slav do SS
FORCED LABOUR FOR THE GERMANS
Tobias
he's german empire hat's not even possible
Wack
I'm the German empire, I ain't no larp German.
Iehxbxjalqlanbxjforoejuehfb fn
Meh
And I just split the congo.
Split my cheeks pls
see this is why I don't like to do sealion.
Do mp and mil governor then ig
the UK is gone yet the british administration in india still exists?
that makes no sense
burma, inda, and Malaya should all collapse when the reich marches triumphant into London
Australia, New Zeland, Canada (and to a lesser extent) South Africa should all survive
but there's no way any other part of the British empire can survive
now should the collapse be instant? eeeeh maybe not
but the moment the UK capitulates certain parts of the empire are living on borrowed time
the german ai had a stroke
stronk
why did you leave them alone
you didn't take them in the peace deal
because the reich never had any expectation or desire to take land in Asia
then what are you complaining abou_t ?
third reich larper
historically speaking the ambitions of the Nazis were limited to Europe and Africa
dodgy that
🤨 are you trying to imply im a certian kind of person because i want to play historically?
/realistically
no im just making a joke tbf
I don't understand what's your point tho
why is half of italy protecting paris
also Japan
rome has litterally fallen
i don't want to get into a tussle with the Japanese
you're complaining about uk colonies still existing yet you leave them alone in the peace deal
why complain then
The japanese are ready to start a war and waste a million manpower just because you took a smol island in the pacific
because i think the british enpire should collapse
...
I mean usually when I peace deal the allies the raj turns into india
I always balkanise india tho, because its funne hihi :3
they probably do normally but the portrait mod might mess things up
do you honestly think the nazis would have tried to annex india, burma, australia, and new zeland?
or the uk still exist somewhere
I didnt even see that until you mentioned the portrait 😭
portrait mods tend to mess with flags and names
Most anime mods also contain malware or viruses
like the old hitler portrait mod that never allowed you to change from german reich name even when opposing hitler
historical accuracy in the sense of what they planned
not ya know
IT MUST BE IRL
if you want maximum realism go play Cold War Iron Curtian
because OTL is maximal realism
theyre cooked
If you want otl realism while playing the germans, you need to take panzerschokolade frfr /j
theyre not recovering from that
whats that?
Black ice for ww2
:bonk:
Meth.
ahhh
In chocolate
?
Ya
chocolate spiked with Meth
i lowkey need that rn
there are rumors about this but they're probably overexagerations if it even happened
how do you even upload malware onto steam
and how havent i thought about it as a possibility
once again, the heirs to rome
right there
I never understand why even anime pfps
imagine if theres a vanilla map mod for tno
because they love women
KSRE
?
I think its Reichskommissariat +
because im a duckin weeb
What happened here?
Fair enough
base game dlcs
jesus christ
baltics just joined?
:0
what ui?
wym XD
this ui?
TNO map mod
yeah this ui looks nice
map isnt ui tho
man i love this meme so much
it was a real thing
Operationszone Alpenvorland
Crazy
Guess thats what you get for taking meth AND morphine
I DID IT
can anyone help in #ask-for-help-here please?
and ill actually even continue this run i think
usually i drop a run after getting the achievement i want
im watching the British getting absolutely owned in the air war bruh
even the Italians have more planes now
now its just a race to see how quickly u can defeat their army
before they run out of supplies
they already did that
god
45 divs on 1 tile
so based
3,5mil casualties inflicted while only suffering 450k loses ourselves
basically all i could get in the peace deal tho
also wtf is this
gl to hirohito
time to provide myself with brain damage
?
i have no clue myself honestly
lol
theres 2 communist polands
1 is a soviet puppet with a generic leader and generic focus tree
one is the real poland with 2 states and in the allies
Any active MP server?
why is poland purple?!
because this ai in this game loves border gore
read the description
I'm going crazy I swear
Yall I finally did it
ukrainian ssr and its just bucovina
Dumb question
I FINALLY DID THIS
Bc i have been Born in germany
it was a joke question
Anybody else play with allowdiplo? I feel like it’s so much better and not so limiting
Is it possible to create collaboration governments using commands ?
If this Is uk, ig its the Alliance of England and Portugal that lasted till the to the present day
doesnt england and portugal have the longest standing alliance in history
The image Is of a bunch of italians
Pretty historical
Thats what i said 💔
“Come è fallita la mediocre blitzkrieg italiana in Grecia” 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️‼️‼️‼️🇮🇹🇮🇹
“Come è fallita la mediocre blitzkrieg italiana in Grecia” 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️‼️‼️‼️🇮🇹🇮🇹
“Come è fallita la mediocre blitzkrieg italiana in Grecia” 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️‼️‼️‼️🇮🇹🇮🇹

why am i even playing democratic belgium
Achievements
me when ming in eu4
me when the uh
Oh wait
war of the protestant league
To some people their fps cuts in half?
also thought about that
My game just freezes lol
lol
only 2 lag spikes in eu4 tbh
dont remember ming collapsing that hard
i mean it isnt every run
usually they lose half their land and then split into 3 countries
shrug
Its 1940 and I'm not in a war yet do I try to join one or keep building up?
when does the next dlc come out (no compromise no surrender)
Oke
20th nov for the Japan one
I have 100 divs ready of defense and 30 for attacking
Wait so when the doctrine rework coming out
.
pretty sure they're together
i might be wrong tho
With the dlc
When
Q1 2026
With the Japan one?
I Just said It.
its nov 20
what was hoi4 recommended specs again?
Hello gey
You can find It on the steam page
oh right thanks
Why is today so bland?
I don't get the hate for field hospitals
Its great for countries like Norway where nobody lives.
Find one person hating on field hospitals
They’re S tier
Joining it rn
Bitt3rsteel
Bitt3rsteel's followers who agree on him with everything.
Why is Bitt3rsteel so hated
I heard he's bad.
actually never saw it before
Because bokoen1 rules supreme
he's goated unless i missed something
shame he stopped doing achievement guides tho
was my lifesaver back when i started doing them
AAT is goated
based
now i just have to afk research 10 special projects
so fire
green poland 🔥
the italians arent that smart
if i get france in i might actually form the eu
Guys playing as Italy and puppeting small Ethiopia countries after the war. How do I stop greater oromo from giving me pointless shitty divisions? I can’t find a way to stop it. I just delete the division every time but I would like to just completely stop them from giving me the divs in the first place
Looks like saori takebe
Bokoen1 well know for having a thing for gup
You cant
The European onion
Obv ye
also got poland now
Alr
On god the faction rework will be actually peak
UK is communist
Soviets are communist(duh)
???
somehow theyre my puppet
even tho i didnt do antyhbing in the war
non historical is so cursed
Bro 💔 do you read like the japanese?? From top ro bottom?
????
?
what is even going on
they had a civil war as an austrian puppet
and became a lithuanian puppet after they won it
lithuania focuses I'm guessing
focus to restore the union
probably the paaradox spaghetti code tbf
no compability between the dlcs
they all mess each other up
I mean not really in this case
if poland being a puppet would prevent them from doing their focuses it would be bad
however there should be a possibility for the master to join the war
?
how is it not shitty coding
but they aren't still at war with each other are they
if austria can get them as a puppet
and in the same moment
the lithuanians force a civil war
where
if the austrian puppet wins
it gets stolen
???
did it win ?
that's something else then
wait until you have to do this one
took me 9 years of wait as can
thoought it'd be faster with canada because of scientist decisions
i mean for this one
mb
lovely borders
nice
also im rushing to this focus now
heya! thinking of buying Hoi4. 😄
its a shame i have to do pretty much the entire focus tree for it
nice
i guess its a lot to learn
Do it
its -70% discount so i think its a good buy
running this as germany, looks good ?
no i just never usually design divisions
Whose faction is that?
all i knw is 32width good
oh
soviets
The default Germany div works just fine
Yoah, ive never seen UK go down the ally with Soviets path
They always form their stupid faction
U lose too much buck for u bang
so literlaly this is fine? aight
tanks are the way to go for pushing ngl
Or motorized with arties
ive got about 50 infantry divisions lmfao
peak gameplay
is there different Difficulties?
I’m just showing them what’s way better 😭
What does the tank divs look like
Not actually AI difficulty
What year is it
august 38
Leichte division
working my way towards Sudetenland
That’s also very bad too lol
wdym lol
Lights are no armor so not very effective
As well as ur div being very small
Make mediums with howitzers and 2 small cannons
Besides Speed 🗣️
oh god i dont even have mediums researched
Then I would say radio/wet ammo too
Btw don’t research tanks above basic level
noooooooooooo they got iceland
The basic chassis is the best
right ill get basic mediums, convert all my lights to mediums and completely pivot production
🧢 super heavy chassis Is best
and i sohuld have them in time for Poland in late 39
Yeah u should have atleast 1-2 by then since I started late
And for the div template
10/8s work best (10 tanks with 8mech/mot)
ofc the uk had to decolonize when i have to have a long run
anything just to make the game run slower
Ok late war we go
Why Is Munich called minga with Bavaria? 💔
No
so fire
I dont think the extra fuel Is good
yes britain please make my game run slower
you just gonna ignore the MG main gun?
I wanna have larp mg 42
would an Automatic Canon be better then?
Maybe a convert tank (optimism) but single man turret and basic chassis kind of rule that out
On medium no?
I knowwww
Medium howitzers
Tank
I'll let you handle it Casey 
how does one do this
Nooo :(
do was?!??!
the whole world fascist achievement is so annoying
i think this is the best/closest ima get but it should work
justifying on random ahh countries
If you go against infrantry only i suggest spg
blud didn’t justify on random countries then cap the allies
Ok so
Dont make a tank
Go into your army tree in your focuses
Do the focus that gives you the sturmgeschutz spawn in
Itll give howitzer 1 because you have basic chassis unlocked
Use that
Casey>:(
advanced panzer research alr
what convinced you to use a basic hmg for your main gun
numbers go up
i need to know the thought process
what
no they odnt
that's the lowest number
i saw green arrows 🤷♂️
prot ip
pro tip
read the stats on stuff
the gun you put has the lowest attack of all of them
it's literally just like a machine gun
will do, i usually just assume greener number = more effectie
but ill read more
Hi?
Im not a developer...?
over
This is like asking a janitor to change the national laws like yeah theyre in the same building sometimes that doesnt really mean anything though
Doesnt really give them yk executive or even informal power
god this is running painfully slow
do you know who i can talk to
so I can put my input into the machine
these mediums cut through the polish front like butter oh my god
Paradox forums
Oh wow you know naomi
Cool
Lowkey can cut through Poland with anything 😂
i know a lot of people :hehe:
oh what
i cant use hehe here
lameeee
External emotes are only for the uh community team role and above
i see
Or you need admin one of the two
Lame

