#hoi4-general
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50 euros. I believe the DLC is gonna be a flop at launch.
Not because its bad but because it costs as much as HOI4 itself.
Why isn’t Lebrun the leader of France in HOI4 base game
It’s also Japan dlc so weebs might buy it in droves
DONT CARE ABOUT NAVY? someone shore bombard this dude
Is there a dlc for camps?
camps?
german ones
No and it wont happen
U could do -5% population and +5% stability
If mods about them are taken down almost instantly I really doubt PDX would make them official...
dont even have to doubt it, they wont and that has been their stance on it forever
Lol playing as trotsky Mexico path, invaded the US in 1944 and they literally have like 20 divisions here
Just rushing victory points
US be like
Today we'll discuss the entire HOI4 naval meta, enjoy!
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epic
the sheep has spoken
Why bother with britain when you can nuke london
It could be 1940
🐑
because im gonna nuke them anyways
people that dont like navy come from countries that dont use combined arms doctrines 😡
make a bunch of horses and rush his victory points
Don’t cavalry suck
they're fast and cheap
literally 1 battalion of horses in a div can take victory points
Okay that’s good to know. Thank you 🙏
Cavalry are literally just slightly worse infantry
I just spam tanks tbh
So they're still usable
imo they're better, speed is king

but you cant double stack infantry/motorized buffs if you go horses
I wish you could declare war as a democracy without 100% tensions soooo bad.
I’ve been waiting forever to go to war with Mexico
Main problem is that they cost 20% more and don't get doctrine bonuses
But speed is good
Unless you're going mass mob, you won't suffer from using a pure cavalry army imo
if i have to go pure one or the other i like cavs but if i get anything else like trucks infantry is the real deal
Does speed give any combat advantage
Like motorized infantry?
every unit you kill thats encircled is gone so theres that
You can encircle easier + overruns
yeah motorized or mechanized
It's not that important tbh
Stellaris is unplayable without speed
you can double stack infantry and motorized w/e the military guys are called
the humble hyperlane
Takes years to get from one side of your empire to the other in that game
For a moderate sized empire too
is the great wall of china modeled in this game?
It will be when the new DLC comes out
sweet
did they not nationalize US oil
Don’t remember seeing anything about it, and I assume that gives you the ability to justify a war goal? In which I can’t.
There is an option when they nationalize US assets to get a wargoal
either that or it decs automatically idk
but its a good trade
Anyone here have more thsn 3k hours
anyone have a good mountianeer division?
how am i even supposed to take over allies as usa lmfao
invade them?
You need to train more divisions. You need a bigger army to take over the faction
I just built an aircraft carrier but it wont be operational until early to mid 1941 because im refitting Scharnhorst and Gneisenau with 38cm guns improved secondary and improved fire controls
i know and i can probably do it
but tbh the 150% requirement is absolutely insane
that and the UK being as strong as they are*
You need more light cruisers
Also a sistership to Graff Zeppelin is underway and will be ready by april 1940
whenever theres a usa dlc or hell hopefully even this upcoming one there should probably be an event where USA takes control over allies faction
I prefer destroyers
not only is it historical but its just more convenient all around
i used them before and are actual comparitable to light cruiser
Like you will end up with 3 carriers and 6 battleships, you will need 40+ screens to screen them properly
because wdym i have to have 10 million divisions in the field just so i can say i run the allies
And if you are going destroyers even more
when my air is the only reason theyre doing anything
Because destroyers get destroyed easily
Well without the entire Commonwealth the Axis will be invading your homeland
they wouldnt be
How can i upload disaster saves?
https://disastersavior.com I believe
Yep that's right
Should I get arms against tyranny or should I wait for new dlc or should I just pirate it
piracy is VERY wrong and you should NEVER do it and its INCREDIBLY cruel to the HARDWORKING devs who charge HALF THE GAME'S PRICE for FOUR FOCUS TREES
wait for a sale tbh
why are you refitting the main guns
never ever do that
it takes a ton of ic
larger firepower is a goodthing yes?
you're gonna spend 3 of that refitting a ship
is it a good investment?
you tell me
Ok well maybe i dont want my shit blown out the water by enemy capital ships
you;re quite literally better off building a new ship
boom you have 2
instead of 1
wtf happend
WE talked about this the other day
no one learns navy because it doesnt pay off
i learnt navy and it paid off
its a meme that people with like 8k hours dont understand navy for a reason
i have 900 hours and i understand navy
the best navy is an airforce
I have 500 hours and I understand focus tree
correct, but i like my bathtubs
the naval meta for bigships is also just carriers WITH naval bombers
all roads lead to planes
i dont think this is even possible
they can just make infinitely more when i cant catch up because i dont mobilize that fast
1m and theyre on service by requirement
i have 7.6m and im also on service by requirement
it will take till like 6 years after they stop to match them
@pine dragon
these achievements are so poorly thought out
WERE REHOSTING WITH SOMEONE WITH BETTER INTERNeT
old achievements: bugged or takes till 1960
new achievements: bugged or wc
nothing ever changes
whatever, go my 6000 naval bombers
maybe its possible as fascist usa and you invade uk and form your own faction?
thats ridiculous though lol
only way to get an achievement for eisenhower is to...not have eisenhower
whatever you say paradox
Hypothetically you are to become faction leader and then request expeditionaries
Except no one can ever request expeditionaries to save their life
Including me. I see the button, but have never been able to use it
goated at navy
refits main guns
I only do it to keep up with rivals
child named building new ships
believe it or not heavy guns dont do a lot of damage
battleships are quite literally just there to eat up damage and provide AA coverage
and leave the killing to the CVs
I cant just pump carriers out like they're liberty ships like 1 a day and shit i build battle groups so that when the carriers are done they shit is ready
real
That reminds me i have to fit the carriers with radar
dont want it to end up like in midway
shit didnt get radar until 1943 even then it was dogshit cant see anything until its like 2 miles away and diving on you
yeah
the navy system scares me
its like learning to drive
it does absolutely nothing
this is like, smaller than the starting german fleet
don't split your fleet
"the rest"
yes, don't split your fleet
ah well
yeah
naval combat is all-or-nothing
don't send anything out before you have a large enough fleet
and never split
also better build more useful ships than carriers
I see your problem, not enough destroyers
You need destroyers to be the bullet sponges for your big ships
yeah i usually use 20 destroyers with the complement on 4 or 5 battle ships and 3 carriers
You need at least 3-4 destroyers per capital ship so if you have 7 capital ships you'd need 21-28 destroyers
*screens not just destroyers
light attack light cruisers are better until u get torp 3
not enough screens in general
What is going to fight the enemy screens as well
ai portugal would win against that
What did i tell you
also dont put raeder as your admiral
find someone with brilliant strategist
iirc germany has none anyway
i usually pick gunther lutjens because
yes
Just look some Curt Who Games naval vids you'll know what to do then
i would absolutely reload if i were you
is curt who games actually good at the game or is he just another dumb youtuber who pretends to be pro
no
every youtuber in hoi4 is bad
how many ships can i put in a task force before i start getting positioning penalty (assuming i go against another equally sized TF)?
it cant be mastered
he is
actually good
at navy at least
They all good except feedback he does some "meta" that doesn't work
feetback is my favorite one to make fun of
https://youtube.com/@teefeeraw?si=Nx_LB0vaGJwnMgT1 this guy is good
has someone tried beating hoi4
why he has only 18k subs is a bit crazy
with luxembourg
on the hardest difficulty
lmao
and no
theres a lot
hatless spider ♥️
id dare you to stop the german invasion
just look up Luxembourg ec
spiderless hat
wc
luxembourg wc is just cheese
i literally dont understand how vanilla fleet composition is supposed to work
wiki says nothing
i dont think
i dont care about navy
4/1
like how many screens and battleships should i have before i get positioning penalty
its too hard to think about
4 screens to 1 capital
We'll get new sistem in november 20th
basically that
At least that's what daddy paradox says
you would think redundancy would be cool, like 1 carrier to 3 battleships, and 1 battleship to 5+ CLs and DDs
but no
what am i even saying
you can do fo that
yeah but positioning penalty
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the us is so lucky they have a couple guys with both BS and air enthusiast
eugh
no
daddy paradox and mommy gajin
Or just make a dead stack of ships you got from Winston
yeah nah
Yes that's how it is
daddy paraadox pls just update the dlcs and not add new ones 🙏
You'll have to pay anyway
rework the damned hellenic focus tree
greece tree seems fine tbh
no its not
the dominions need an update
Spain also needs a rework
its missing a commie branch
yes but
And America and if they want to ticle our fencys they can rework UK to
we need to uhhhhhhhhhhhh
commies take over greece
civil war
and then uhhhhhhhh
um
im not good at making focus trees
its like denmark
Paradox devs when they made south american focus trees
just play r56 at that point 😭
what is r56
its a mod that makes the game better
We'll to be thrue only tree's people play is byzantium and macedonian empire
i love democratic greece 😝😝
If you not goning after achivments
really?????
does it continue after
theres millennium dawn
Yes there are even tech trees till 1960 i belive
modern day warfare
2000?
That's just economy simulator and dogecoin miner
But it's fun if you have spare 2 weeks of your life to reach 2005
iirc yuh
but if youre looking for wacky niche paths to play
kx is fun
hey
driving also scares me
It would scare me too
Driving is not that scary, def more afraid of doing navy XD
Somehow i did navy Yesterday
(With alot Help)
Amerika
I wanted to Play diffrend countrys than my Home country
It feels so weird seeing hoi4 in german
lemme guess
you're german
yeah I dont speak them words
alabama
I only speak freedom words not like yall commie words
crazyy
and I hear your freedom is expiring soon
Naval invasion not landing?
German words are coomie words?
not on my watch
yeah east germany
it should
Man
driving is scary
the amount of crazy drivers on the road is concerning
Karl Marx type shit
im aware
I hear donnie likes ID verification
Niederländer
and the uk ohh they are coked
African front got me trippin
that one guy hitting 300kph on the autobahn before hitting a road sign
Pls god no
This disgusts me
I should stop appropriating southern culture
True freedom begins on the autobahn
Except the A3
its about nothing
the hate is because its overhyped
i remember that one time i went 60kph on my motorbike and my fight and flight kicked in
it was visceral
I am old and don’t understand it so I must hate it. It has been the law for generations
whats it like there?
Its overrated
True heaven can only be found playing tannu tuva!
labubus are just meant as a collectors thing and have no purpose outside of that
If I go to the steam workshop now, I better not find a labubu mod
i like playing Italy but the duce really needs to calm down with these missions
RELEASE MEEE
I see the ai do this so rarely sometimes
Its like they want to absolutely loose and be shit
Nah
ok
true
if someone buys a resource from me do i get a civillian factory for it?
Yeah
so i have navel superorty but my maries keep falling to invade japan
hover the arrow above the army
?
the button to start the invasion?
it'll tell you if you're missing a sea region
im not
are there divs assigned to the order?
the go the beach and then the turn around
yes
weird, are they losing the battle instantly or something?
there no damge bubbels on enemt armies that pop up
there just turing around i ques the dont like the japan beachs
help in #ask-for-help-here pls
😭 i'll never recover from this, my pride of the fleet
I kinda wish you could trigger a Operation Valkyrie type coup when your loosening a war as Germany
Like
I‘m pretty sure there is a mod for that
Really?
Yes
Link?
Just search in the workshop for Operation Valkyrie. Pretty sure its the first result XD
Oh wow it’s literally just the first result
I thought I’d have to do a bit more than that
On it
Hello libs
hello yalls
OH HELL NO, AUSTRIA! GET KICKED
border gore award 2025
What country are you playing as
i guess persia
or this one
wasnt sure why iran would have hindu generals but i swear that was a persian lion on th flag
Skill issue
btw
pride of the fleet designation does give buffs
so its worth it to very carefully choose what ship you should make PotF
Next time do battleships too
A trained superheavy battleship
the reason
my SHBBs were averaging 5 kills
Carriers are for aviation fans
incorrect
Superheavies are for true navy enyojers
Make the dream of Wilhelm the II true
794 planes bombing the boats is for people who don't trust their navy to do the job
CARRIERS ARE SO PEAK
I love doing superheavies that take two years each to build and you have to take the water out to put them in the sea
word
literally
there's a naval rework mod that ive been using
carriers are pretty cheap compared to battleships
you can try that if you want to design super heavy bbs that are fast
but they literally destroy everytjing
i just recently discovered that '36 carriers are good enough to do the job
i mean
you want as many planes on the ships as you can
if you have high enough sortie efficiency you can go over the deck limit
i usually did the most modern research for it but now i js use that one
what even is sortie efficiency
how good your crews are at making sure as many planes as possible can get into the air in the shortest period of time
i think
look it up on wiki
hm
he said the thing‼️
basically a modifier on carrier bomber atk
it's massively powerful, you can get easily +40% sortie efficiency on carriers as USA for example plus the advisor that brings it to 50%
it makes the first damage in the battle absolutely massive considering you can get 4 carriers with 60 navs each + one with 30 navs, 20 fighters, 1 CAS
Basically, you can instantly sink any enemy capital if you stacksortie efficiency high enough
more than 4 carriers ill give you massive debuffs that render them worse and worse (except if you do the glitch that allows you to get 5)
it's basically a waste to have more carriers and is way better to just have better carriers (with more plane capacity)
but yeah, it's powerful and very much fun to play with
im using a mod that lets me have 6 carriers before suffering penalties
and like
that was 2 task forces
then using 6 is best
the other one joined
i was having 2 with 5 cvs
(this was before i knew of the 6 cv cap)
debuff still applies iirc
bruh
the other task force joined of its own accord (if i caught it joining i would have manually set it to return to port)
its pretty annoying
nothing i could have done about it
might have something to do with the 800 navs
or the UK's had no org or was scared and left, letting them get shot at for free
i assume the oob was my fleet caught part of the british fleet in the channel; theirs being weaker than mine (the power parity bar) drew the entire british home fleet into the fight which in turn drew my other task force out
@snow rain ^
they had 600 ships before that
i ultimately sank 2/3 of their capital ships force (25ish carriers and over 20 BBs)
hellu
hellu
are they making man the guns free for everyone
yes it free rn just dowlond it
free dlc where
don't know, its just an announcement they made that they were going to make mtg integrated into the base game
no

i got it
mabye dont
if you cant annex the benelux as germany dont get a dlc and make stuff harder
but tbh surely they should give people who bought it already something?
this doesn't sound right
:/
a discount on the new dlc would be cool, just saying, doesn't even have to be that big
yea true
doesnt really matter to them
it's already served it's purpose, to make money
Is it beter to have Historical ai on or of when tryin to unite the Benelux as the Dutch?
depends really
if you're just going for the achievement then it doesnt really matter as its very very easy
if you plan to continue the run beyond that non hist might be better
What's beter to unite the Benelux?
Fascist maybe cus Germany is close to you ?
do you just want to unite the benelux or will you play the run after that?
check this out
So Historical is off and now the Germans ar in a civil war
@flat gazelle do I help the one of the Germans?
yes
K
Need a lot of pp to give the uk points before I can do the focus
And why is everything a 70 focus
its an old focus tree
Average pre-NSB focus tree
And the WW1 debuffs
Wtf the new dlc is £40
Yes, they are worse than Belgium's
How do I get rid of undisputed isolation so I can get More man Power
Playing the US I suppose?
The Dutch
Look it up in the focus tree
With man the guns DCL
There is a tool where you can look for key words
Cant find it
Army tree
Its down in the eco side
War against pacifism or something
As the netherlands you dont have to do any of the political tree besides the first focus on historical lol
Because youre traumatized by ww1
We where not even in it
From the uh refugees
No
W
took me way too many tries
i wanted to form hre but i'd need to take a single state from hungary who are my allies
so i cant be bothered
I need so much PP
just kick him and justify
.
plus i would have to wait 200 days for the swiss justification to finish
Does anyone know if their is going to be a preorder bonus for the expansion pass
A battotai bonus song would be sick
You have to go to the war on pacifism in the Dutch focus tree so you can get decisions to get rid of the debuffs
Definitely
Idk if there is going to be a battotai bonus dong though
Maybe, it wouldn't hurt if we hope for it at least
There are some skins i know of as a bonus for some ships.
I need more guns Im just using my pupets man Power
I now
Some Els told me already
Yes why ?
Me too :]
Glorie aan het vaderland 🫡
Ga proberen België en Luxemburg te veroveren
How do I give my submarines weapons?
Help pls
The Germans want willen back do I say yes or no?
what nation u are
The Dutch
If you say no they can get a wargoal on you
But your choice
somehow they white peaced in 1937
i love ahistorical
damn everyones going communist this run
uk and italy for now
latvia also went commie
Lol
Wacht a yt tutorial
^
K
its much better then someone trying to explain it on discord
Ok
Btw what IS better Japan or China in Focus tree?
?
can you form benelux with no dlcs?
Got it
What in the
What path / mod is that
its rise of radicalism
Ah
ribentrops path
nice european pact
argentina is the only member
also i feel like i wasted too much time on the civil war
its august 1939 and im still white
jesus
cant remember the last time i actually saw poland agree
Holy thats rare
the borders annoy me so much tho
The borders are quite ugly ngl
The famous nation of count and kebab lol
civil war has been going on since forever
Lovely strait moment
Hiiii
🔛🔝✨
I had the anarchists win once
thats more common than carlists ngl
Kebab just chillin
Ngl this Makes me a bit hungry
Lets eat eachother
i love non historical
💔
Hell no
Tf hellstrom talking about
also wtf is this
The wind bro the wind
Nah bro that was NOT the wind
Idk
🪫💔😭
Is that, ecuador winning?
Proof?
not even winning, its after the war
Good boy🔋🙏
Huh
Lithuania comeback raaah
Ain't they quarantee eachother in historical ai?
Watch them get deleted in 1 day max
Non historical
this is non hist
Ohh
and on historical they will try to split poland with the soviets for some reason
Ma bed
well not really split
Is that an invitation?
they get wilno and the soviets get the rest of eastern poland
My bad
😔
I know what kind of man you are
Im not complaining
No thats what i meant
The first time
Freaky ahh😭🔋🧐
WHAT DO YOU MEAN
A döner would be pretty good rn.
for some reason india has claims on all the baltic countries
Rightful indian clay
Yeah
The claims sometimes are weird
Or some Indian food
Pass, döner must rule supreme
Trust me If flowi wants some Indian food shes gonna get some Indian food😈
Hii flowi
oh how i love achievements like this
haha the british fked france over
they were in the allies together
but the british did a focus to form a new faction
Is this ww2 or ww3?
france has been exiled to guyana
Haiahiahai, Erika
i love u
erika
i love erika!
i’m erika!
...
Hold on
ecria ist derived from erica (erika)
You? Or we?
We.
do i need to explain?
vs
vs
the whole population of netherlands
the whole population of netherlands
slow and steady the us fleet goes down
a bit more spam needed
what is volksstaat paneuropa bro
its commie germany
So i am right
mao is not having a good time
get in
only took me until 1941
but we're making tanks now
I forgot if kv-2’s exist in hoi4 or not
do they know?
YOU DELETED THEM!!!
good
Adolf hitler:
argentina has gone mad
they are declaring on everyone
also jesus christ wtf is this
They're gonna get destroyed.
there was 62 units
Argentina will be mauled.
those 2 wars have been going on for like 4 years now
Is it another balkan war?
Who and who?
turkish civil war and yugo + bulgaria vs greece
1600 hours and this is the first time im seeing this
Hiiiiii Casey!!
Thanks for reminding me on the importance of making more provinces 🥀
hru??
Hispaniola's the size of Portugal yet it's got like less provinces than Brittany 🥀
mods that add more states/ provinces are so goated
A Bit disgusted but good
this made me check and holy shit its actually close
How are you?
i had no idea about that
huh why
what if the ukrainian war for indepedence was successful and this greatly.
76k square km's for hispaniola and 92k for portugal
An little Girl Made that Salute thats Bad in germany
Sierra leone: imma conquer sahara
Jolof: not so fast cuts sierra leone off
Sierra leone: ahhhhh
Nigeria: HELP GHANA
ghana: go my slave
Liberia:
"Go my slave" 🥀
Friendly fire bruh
I Hope you get better
yes i did create this with the console cause i am gonna play it
what is even going on in this run
It was at the Sport Festival where i was an helper for the teachers BC i am class President
And the class was silant
ethiopia
BC of me
or the congo
Most stable Portuguese occupation:
makes sense
well ethiopia can by french somaliland
been a while since i played them
huh
They will boost revolts even as an ally
hey gang i’m new to hoi4 where can i learn how to play the game
is there fascist russia?
yt tutorials and learning by trial and error
YOU CALL THAT A WAR?!
160mil loses wtf
It reminds me of finno korean hyperwar
how long was that run
On Ironman too
wait are those revolts caused by ethiopia
Holy plagarism 🥀
Yes
because ive never seen guinea bissau revolt against portugal
also wtf is even the point of these wars in this game
how can the war between portugal and guinea bissau ever end
its so stupid
The AI can peace out and grant independence
nvm
The colonizer gets an event
i thought it worked like a normal war
To either continue or grant independence
my bad
It's alr
i jsut didnt expect paradox to actually consider doing that
Me neither 🥀
yez
That's a border conflict compared to whatever the hell happened in my save 🥀
I swear the AI knows what it's doing
It always tries declaring randomly when it's nearly dead
To try and spark world wars
So petty 🥀
You call that long?
its almost 1942 already and i gotta do thermonuclear bombs this run
In MD it takes us 5 YEARS TO EVEN RESEARCH INTER-WAR TANK DESIGNS!
peak gameplay
Truly
That's prob why 90% of MD is peace time
You can't even build military stuff cause it takes ages 🥀
well this is ma first time commiting to a save
i dip out if the allies get involve
but ive been burned too many times
uk demanded decolonization
and france agreed even tho theyre at war with the uk
paradox spaghetti code back at it again
Or maybe France was too lazy to garrison lol
its the same for commie brazil, you can demand the allies to release south american/carribbean collonies and theyll accept even at war with you
japanese syria is real
I've had worse
Just dont make tanks
why would they even care
Theyre trash in mildawn
True, MD Special Forces and CAS are super broken anyways
And you can just buy 1st-world troops through PMCs
Even air takes so much research
You can research inf like 10 years ahead of time and get it in like 5
Its very strong
At least it's worth it
Nah
it just keeps getting worse
You can beat the strongest divisions with the weakest just with CAS
Literally does like 100 damage a tick
North Sentinel Island speedrun
what is japan doing
indian led bolvarian allience recruits new members
hungary on the verge of collapsing but still declaring on the italians
So cas does like no damage to it
But you cant because infantry has crazy HP
Trust me you can
fym
CAS SHREDS in MD
Oh i know you can but just get CAS reductions and battleplan
Air is also too much tech time imo
Maybe its fine as majors idk i never played majors
Eh it's good to have
Me neither
Majors are boring
knew it cause the ai never goes with the berlin moscow axis (atleast the german AI)
WHAT ARE THEY DOING
Except like China but even then, Emerging outlook can't declare war on one-another
Told you
you communist, you deserve it
AI Always starts World Wars before it dies
Eh that's Communist enough
they*
hey atleast it gives you some breakthough points
stuff like this makes me regret wanting to do all the achievements
took them long enough
Nuke the Germans
I want to play as Iceland and build a navy that rivals the kreigsmarine.