hoi4-general

[dry kayak]

0 manpower for 2 full years and blockades

[mild plaza]

Tag over to them and check

[kind vale]

First one with factory output debuf

[brittle cypress]

google conscription law, they are mobilizng more men

[mild plaza]

You're just basing it off speculation

[brittle cypress]

idk what you mean by illegal retreats and magically moving divisions

you might be right on the supply honestly cant remember if they get some cheats for that or not

[dry kayak]

you can mobilize the men that you want, but you cant keep up with full production of tanks, arty, rifles etc

[mild plaza]

Extensive is the last one without output buffs. But with infantry + CAS you wouldn't have needed to go to the point of debuffing output

[brittle cypress]

don't think they do cause ic onstantly see ai in red uspply

[mild plaza]

I'd generally stay at extensive at max. Unless you're really desperate

[brittle cypress]

literally just tag over and check their production

[kind vale]

I made like 72 offensive infantry divisions and 72 port defense ones

[mild plaza]

But you should be able to kill france, UK, poland and USSR with extensive, some good infantry divs and CAS spam

[dry kayak]

air superiority first

[kind vale]

I got france and Poland i plan to do the ussr then build ships to invade the uk

[mild plaza]

Yea thats part of the CAS spam

[dry kayak]

that's what i saw, spam fighters then openup with all you have

brits and reich are crazy

[mild plaza]

You can cheese a naval invasion or use paratroopers instead

You don't need to build up ships

[dry kayak]

they make like 8k planes😂

[mild plaza]

Fighter and CAS can shred yea

[kind vale]

I dont really know how to use paratroopers

[serene token]

I'm alive.

[dry kayak]

if you drop them on a free port you can just send troops without preparing the invasion

[mild plaza]

Its not too difficult. Just research them. Get 100 transport planes for every 2 paratrooper divisions you've got and get air superiority. Otherwise you can just cheese a naval invasion

[heavy vigil]

45 per div

50 for first

[patent thistle]

how did these 4 pre-dreadnoughts cook-

[serene token]

Man, chat dies when I join.

[mild plaza]

Its basically 100 per 2. It'd only matter once you get to 11+ divisions

But also since when is that a thing?

[kind vale]

And invade from the east if doing that for the uk?

[patent thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-white-persian-guardian-why-gif-10312546

[mild plaza]

You can land on london. Or more in the south west

[serene token]

Hey, in the German Civil war, there's a timer for something called "The 4th scilian uprising."

What would that do?

[kind vale]

Yeah but the aa kills my para troopers

[patent thistle]

silesian revolt

[mild plaza]

Make 1 state in the east rise up

[patent thistle]

2*

[mild plaza]

Its the one between czech and poland

[kind vale]

You can do the German civil war in like 2 weeks

[dry kayak]

btw i was checking all the malus of Italy, they are impressive: -15% research in all the sectors, constant expense of politcal power to keep Benito on the head, -10% of organization penality that can be slightly reduced, tanks division super weak, unless you unlock tons of stuff and brits that keep guaranteeing every target nation lol

[serene token]

Not for me

[kind vale]

Do you not cheese it?

[serene token]

Probably because I messed up on something.

[mild plaza]

You can't cheese it like other civil wars

It gives each side 24 divisions guaranteed

[kind vale]

The german one?

No

Well yeah

[serene token]

I got the South defeated, but I got pushed in the north a bit.

[mild plaza]

So you can't delete your army and quickly make cav

[kind vale]

But you can still do it in 2 weeks

[patent thistle]

ye cause you start with 24 shitty divisions but the other germans now get 3 more

[dry kayak]

always push for the kaiser, without the reich i can be the major fascist faction lol

[mild plaza]

Idk about that

[kind vale]

Make 203 2 width infantry put half in the north in land you keep and half on Frankfurt

[patent thistle]

if you use your tanks at the start well yes

[kind vale]

I use infantry and still get it done in 2 weeks

When im not trying to get the focus locked behind wars

[patent thistle]

anyways i am going to sleep early today cause got a shift tomorrow relatively early

[mild plaza]

2 weeks isn't realistic. You can do it quickly but not in 2 weeks game time

[kind vale]

Around that

I dont track the time that much but I get it done fast

[mild plaza]

Still 2 weeks is way too short. Probably an underestimation

[heavy vigil]

No clue

[kind vale]

Probably a month then idk

[fair horizon]

you doubt the power of an ai that does nothing except build subcaps

[serene token]

This is what I'm at rn

I'll probably just redo it.

[calm delta]

German civil war is easy

[brittle cypress]

you're battleplanning

[calm delta]

Don’t restart

[brittle cypress]

this is an example of a war you should micro

[calm delta]

And micro

Don’t battleplan until you have everything apart from eastern Germany

[serene token]

I've been microing, I did the battle plan to just put pressure on them.

[calm delta]

That’s what I do

[serene token]

Okay

[calm delta]

Your wasting org and getting more attrion

Restart and I’ll help you

And @serene token wants to help too I think

[heavy vigil]

This is an example of a war where 1 more battleplan would win

[calm delta]

Have you got green air too

[heavy vigil]

Youre 1 battleplan away from victory

Always remember

[calm delta]

He needs to have hamburg and be closer to Berlin to battle plan that’s what I do

[serene token]

No, and I moved all of my air to there the rebellion would start.

[calm delta]

What I do when I have the east to deal with just micro it

[serene token]

Ik the basis, I cut off the Germans and focus on the South, then go to the North and deal with them.

[calm delta]

Don’t bp it until you have most land apart from Berlin

[heavy vigil]

The entire gcw is part of basics

[brittle cypress]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/809454117428133939/1420508759465267372/yes.gif?ex=68d5a760&is=68d455e0&hm=5e5e7bab220429cbd6e47449991d774234ce4e062f20062d2252630f56c09e3e&

[heavy vigil]

Its not that tough

[calm delta]

If you have hamburg Munich then you gotta take Berlin then they cap

[heavy vigil]

Me battleplanning tanks into the south american jungles

[calm delta]

Play on 3 speed too

It’s easy to control the front

[serene token]

I've realized that I didn't do the 10 width divisions before the civil war started.

[heavy vigil]

"noo you need to micro youll attrition"

[calm delta]

After civil war then go 5 speed

[calm delta]

Restart and start it on 3 speed

[serene token]

Yea, that's what I'ma do

My third attempt.

I'm still new to Hoi4, so this is a learning experience

[calm delta]

Then you can focus on the front without having multiple troops attack your positions that are weaker to the others

[calm delta]

We all start somewhere

[calm delta]

Took me around that to complete it

Ping me if you need help I don’t mind helping you

I want a challenge so I’m gonna learn Japan

[dusky burrow]

Oh okay

[zinc light]

I very much enjoy clean borders and giving my faction members land

[untold sphinx]

marxist france

[serene token]

The new dlc is gonna throw a wrench into everyone.

[dusky burrow]

Long Poland

[dusky burrow]

No more cheesy naval invasions

[zinc light]

indeed, very long poland

[serene token]

Lol, and power.

[dusky burrow]

My minors are RUINED

🙁

[calm delta]

Japan will be better when the pacific dlc comes out

[mild plaza]

Power cost scales exponentially with factory amount

[serene token]

Yes

[mild plaza]

So it won't be as bad for minor nations

[serene token]

I pray to god.

[calm delta]

If Japan gets a good focus tree and other pacific nations there will be better

I just watch bitt3rsteel when I need help

[calm delta]

How’s the civil war going

[lusty birch]

I have 50 hours in HOI IV, I finally conquered the French and then it all stagnated as I had no clue how to do a naval invasion on the British. I guess it's back to the drawing board and the array of YT guides KEKW.

[calm delta]

Yt guides help

Well you gotta do is set up a divison in a naval port

[kind vale]

Thank god

[calm delta]

Then move your naval into the port

Then click on the divison click on the tile then click on a uk tile but you just have green naval strength

[warped flint]

What will i ever do, i lost 6 fighters!

[calm delta]

So go onto your naval

[lusty birch]

Yeah, I didn't know it was a max of 10 divs and I also had no hope in hell of achieving Naval Superiority. I didn't build any additional ships except subs. I didn't want to overcomplicate things by dealing with the Navy side of things.

[calm delta]

Try paras

Then send in your naval then send in your troops on the lands the paras have occupied

Because paras aren’t strong divs

[warped flint]

Soviets were pushing into me while i was trying to encircle them, look what i did!

not bad

[brittle cypress]

nice

[lusty birch]

That and I was getting bombarded with air raids and struggling to deal with Manpower issues in conquered countries.
Feels like it's 1 step forward 2 steps back learning HOI IV.
It is my first ever Grand Strat game though.

[atomic spoke]

Did they make f*ance more powerull or something?

[calm delta]

Lemme dm you something

[atomic spoke]

3 Times as germany i stream roll trough Poland and Dutch then i get stuck at belgium border

[calm delta]

Have you got green air

[atomic spoke]

Yes.

[calm delta]

Show me your map

[atomic spoke]

I used to reach paris with infantery now when i use mech and tanks divs i get stuck brih

[calm delta]

Don’t make them divs until after use light tanks and infantry

Use them for Barbarossa

[atomic spoke]

What barbarosa bro if i get stuck at war with france

[kind vale]

Which is a pain for me to get

Without italy in my faction

[atomic spoke]

My tanks would have 31 attack and their infantery 211...

[brittle cypress]

you're not not making good tanks then

pushing with infantry is never faster than pushing with tanks

ok

that's a lie

but still you get the point

[atomic spoke]

No.

[candid sigil]

I LOVE HORSES

[kind vale]

Would 16 width motorized with motorized arty work for barbarosa as well?

[calm delta]

I use light tanks and inf and I push into belguim quicker

[atomic spoke]

I did the same

Wiped netherlands in 1 day

[kind vale]

Whats your breakthrough

[calm delta]

I would do mediums for Barb as the ussr normally has them by 1942

[atomic spoke]

Then got stoped by infantry divs in belgium

[calm delta]

Make your light tanks better

[kind vale]

Would a mix of mediums, motorized, and normal infantry work?

All in separate divisions

[calm delta]

By going into the design

@atomic spoke

[violet veldt]

have you tried mechanized?

[atomic spoke]

U want me to crank armor to maximum?

[violet veldt]

what year is it

[calm delta]

Just do mediums and mech

[kind vale]

Using them for tanks bc i only have like 1000

[violet veldt]

is it 1939?

[calm delta]

No

[kind vale]

Alr

[calm delta]

Make sure your amour and breakthrough is enough

[violet veldt]

hey i heard if you like mess around with the template for mech you can lower the cost

[neat kayak]

Juicy mexico

[calm delta]

I would say in the 40% there good

@atomic spoke

[kind vale]

Huh

[calm delta]

Try these @atomic spoke

[atomic spoke]

I didn't made any modifications.i jusstmass produce them till half of 1939 then slowly add mils to make mediums

[violet veldt]

they don't have a bba mtg or nsb adjacent template

[violet veldt]

undlc template really

just the production template

[calm delta]

This is cheap and good

[calm delta]

Then go into the design and do what I sent

[violet veldt]

sometimes i hear people say tanks need hard attack more than soft attack

[atomic spoke]

Can't make what u do in the second pic

Don't have the dlc

[violet veldt]

i get that yeah this is for tank v tank battles

[calm delta]

Instead of medium small howizter 2 do 1

[violet veldt]

but like

[calm delta]

Them do the template I sent

[atomic spoke]

I will

[paper echo]

i hope port cheese does not get fixed on new dlc 💔

[atomic spoke]

Thanks

[calm delta]

Hard and soft are good

[violet veldt]

tbh idkkk

[calm delta]

Try them out

And see the difference

[violet veldt]

is it a good idea to have 2 different types of tanks?

one for soft and one for hard?

[atomic spoke]

U don't know how frustrating is to have barely 2 hours free after school and u spend them getting molested by belgium as germany

[calm delta]

I would just have the same amount of soft and hard attack

[calm delta]

I do because I was once like you

Just ping me if you have any other questions or concerns ppl

[remote quarry]

you don't need hard attack at all against ai

[violet veldt]

idk i wanna mess with spgs but everyone tells me artillery is shit

[calm delta]

I meant just soft attack because I play elite ai haha

[violet veldt]

and yeah yeah yeah i know width org and whatnot

[calm delta]

Art is good for defending

[remote quarry]

spg is good

in fact you should never really build normal tank(instead of spg)

[remote quarry]

you just do the same design as the tank

spg is not artillery

[violet veldt]

?

isn't spg art tank?

like tank in an artillery role?

or are you talking about specifically line arty?

[calm delta]

Kinda

[heavy vigil]

Yea

[heavy vigil]

How

It lowers your org

Increases supply usage

[calm delta]

I’ve used it plenty of times for defending and had no issues

[heavy vigil]

It is good before the 1939 gun

[calm delta]

Yh

[remote quarry]

yes

[heavy vigil]

Which vanilla ai only gets in 1939

Which is super late

[remote quarry]

nowhere in the game does spg have anything to do with line artillery

or ok they both are not frontline battalions but it's only reelvant if you are on superior firepower which you don't want to go anyways

[violet veldt]

So spgs in arty role dont count as arty?

If i make a med tank yeah

Put like a howitzer on there or whatever

[remote quarry]

not in any sense

they are just a tank battalion that has 3 width

[violet veldt]

Ohh

[remote quarry]

yes you do the exact same design

spg sacriface your breakthrough for a significant reduction in cost(-33%)

so it's always good

[sudden falcon]

2 total achievementsl ost because of japan

need 1 more province to restore austria hungary which my ally owns and i cant kick them out of the faction until we are no lonjger fighting a war

[serene token]

I just got done with chores, might restart it.

[misty fossil]

@dusky burrow i found ur post

[dusky burrow]

How do you know it's me?

(other than me mentioning that account several times)

Or were you there when I posted that design here

[heavy tangle]

What mod should I play

[ripe slate]

👀

[tired lintel]

what kind of experience are you looking for? Alt hist, different type of game, harder vanilla/

?

[calm delta]

Lemme know 🙂

[heavy tangle]

Alt history or just outright schizo stuff

[tired lintel]

Kaiserreich/Kaisserredux is probably the best for that, but there is also people who play OWB which is a fallout inspired mod where you can play out the conflicts in the fallout world

[heavy tangle]

Cant even play kaiserredux

[serene token]

Ight

[dry kayak]

They kept for like a month with 3 units

[heavy vigil]

Honestly i looked at it ur acc is so weird :p

I dont post tho so i cant judge

[heavy vigil]

Your army sucks

[zinc light]

so the soviets are not difficult to push back
but it's difficult to simply survive their onslaught

[dry kayak]

also this one without any rifles lol

[zinc light]

I can get easy encirclements

[dusky burrow]

True, I got locked out a few times and also I bounced between like 6 different fandoms on there

[zinc light]

but I've been playing so long now, gotta take a rest and freshen my head

[wheat copper]

how do I get Czechoslovakia to always accept when going the Austria-Hungary path?

[zinc light]

I never had issues

[wheat copper]

they either get directly annexed or are a dominion

[zinc light]

to make it easier you can use diplo pressure, improve opinion, a NAP and use all your manpower

[wheat copper]

ty

[zinc light]

then you gotta do it earlier

[dry kayak]

9 inf lvl 2 rifles, lvl 3 support weapon, line arty, at, 3x motorized 50 org and hundreds of attack and defense

[wheat copper]

alright

gotchua

ty

[dry kayak]

9/3/3

[heavy vigil]

Theyre not even equipped

[dry kayak]

it doesnt sucks

[heavy vigil]

It does

[craggy trail]

[dry kayak]

they had a bit of depleting due to bunker battles lol

[misty fossil]

I saw your message here

[heavy tangle]

Which dlc is for polish tree

[misty fossil]

as in i saw that division you posted here

[dry kayak]

wether the french with 0 equipment is fighting a tank division

for days

[paper echo]

no step back

[dry kayak]

that's crazy ahahah

[dusky burrow]

Yep, what did you think?

I think I might have awoken something in them

[misty fossil]

nothing

im braindead

[heavy vigil]

What happened lol

[misty fossil]

is that a serious design btw

[heavy vigil]

Yeah

[misty fossil]

because those reddit guys take it seriously

[heavy vigil]

It looks good

[misty fossil]

oh

i mean

ive never bothered to look at camelry

[heavy vigil]

Theyre great until you get mech

Prob italy or france designs

They use camel tanks

[dusky burrow]

You saw the post right?

[heavy vigil]

Yeah but not the comments

I like commenting im not a big poster

[misty fossil]

apparently camel has more hp than mot

um

[dusky burrow]

They're talking about the camels

They're waking up

[heavy vigil]

Me when i learn to read numbers

[dusky burrow]

The other guys are commenting about how good of a breakthrough division this is

I mean, that's the point, I post at least a semi-decent division to parody the meh divisions posted on Reddit all the time

[heavy vigil]

Its rlly good

You should make a div out of the worst advice you got

To ragebait

[warm forum]

bruh, i wish people enjoyed memes on the Steam Community without getting political...

there are two nutjobs giving their lives debating on a post of mine

like wtf

memes bro

[meager valley]

Average human experience ngl

[warm forum]

surgical

[neat kayak]

Is this mexico big enough?

nah

[meager valley]

Gulf of Mexico is so back

[neat kayak]

this run was the break i needed from australia

and yes i ain't playing on IM cuz i wanted to chill

[warm forum]

Is Australia getting something with the upcoming DLC?

I mean, they are on the Pacific...

[sudden falcon]

germany

f you

[meager valley]

Probably not

[neat kayak]

2 tiles...

[warm forum]

hate when this happens

i've figured out that they're more prone to accept if they're at war

[meager valley]

Just join a war they’re in

[neat kayak]

And the end

[meager valley]

Now to fight the UK

[finite nacelle]

romania tried to invade me so i freed slovania and locked him. 200 iq move

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/stands-online-gif-21404429

[sharp sierra]

so many factors

[sudden falcon]

"yeah i know your allied with us but you have a coalition government with the fascists instead of a complete dictatorship so you cant join"

[plucky skiff]

hello

[serene token]

Needs to be bigger.

[neat kayak]

Hmm I can take Britain

But after school

[sudden falcon]

spanish dday but the germans decide "nah f you"

i mean

spanish sealion

holy shit

can the british not pin me for a month

[serene token]

Ayo

[open quartz]

facts

u can get screwed sometimes in sealion because the british ai is willing to attack every opportunity it gets

fortunately their divisions aren't that good

[sudden thistle]

That’s because it’s AI 🥀

[sudden falcon]

why am i nonaligned as nationalist spain

[sharp sierra]

thats normal

[kind vale]

Whats the best infantry division for defense

[sharp sierra]

all of em

[warm forum]

holy bonkers

[heavy vigil]

guys

im having a unique experience in hoi

the ai is actually protecting me with a world faction and also the US

[open quartz]

yh ik

[craggy trail]

[wraith mauve]

I need meta tank division

[serene token]

What's up

[craggy trail]

Vibing

https://tenor.com/view/my-little-pony-my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-mlp-twilight-sparkle-microwave-gif-13289092693693133434

[heavy vigil]

axis

[tepid crown]

Singleplayer or multiplayer

[brittle cypress]

what is this hp maxxing in singleplayer

smh

[heavy vigil]

For you

[brittle cypress]

art

[uneven portal]

is ur ratte just aa

[rose siren]

how..

its 1941 and germany is dieing to the netherlands.

and italy is being taken over by france..

[serene token]

Yeesh

[rose siren]

HUH THEY CAN DO THAT?

[dusky burrow]

Warsaw Uprising?

As for Germany dying to the Netherlands, probably because the Allies have launched their invaison of Germany from the Netherlands

[rose siren]

Well guess they getting nuked lol

and iraq just joined the axis..

[heavy vigil]

Yeah?

[dusky burrow]

usa is afraid because ratte will shoot down their air

and then the usa will have no air dominance

🙁

sad story

Globe HOI4 can't hurt you

[dusky burrow]

||if you're evernight then you can eat it||

[dusky burrow]

We're taking on Trotsky in Antarctica

[clear dagger]

why can i see scotland and wales

[dusky burrow]

Yeah that's odd

[clear dagger]

and northern ireland

[tidal granite]

Hello

[magic tinsel]

u guys are

||poopy heads||

[leaden mulch]

@mods slur

[dusky burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/dissapointed-vita-vita-vita-hi3-vita-honkai-vita-vr-gif-3214654515210587547

[leaden mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-no-goofy-ah-schwarzenegger-gif-3232264195128170765

[wraith mauve]

Is it possible to para trooper into Uk super early game

[opal nymph]

Your air force is outmatched by the UK

[remote quarry]

yes

[broken sky]

Yes, you can, actually

Tip: only set your air missions on the day of invasion themselves

You can even naval invade into the UK

[meager valley]

Was this to the anime thing?

[meager valley]

Globe would lowkey be cool

[rustic furnace]

Ill be stealing this gif btw

[hoary mortar]

hey goodluck with HOI

[misty fossil]

https://youtu.be/IAP_TalQW-4?si=pHNxmERhdK-5zPXY

[last pecan]

so am i getting my money back for man the guns?

[patent thistle]

there is a lot more examples then just this-

[leaden mulch]

lol

[split bane]

No... unless you bought it super recently then you can ask Steam Support for a refund

[last pecan]

i bought it in july

[sudden thistle]

Nukes are obviously 5/5

[patent thistle]

it feels like they got nerfed and strenghtened at the same time-

[wraith mauve]

How?

What cities should I para trooper into to capitulate France

[trim pike]

Nukes got nerfed hard

[broken sky]

Paris, and the cities with the pentagon/circle marks

Just check each state for the victory points

[wraith mauve]

Ok I also learned i dont exactly need the most planes to paratroop as long as I have planes in the air so I can land before France mobilizes there airforce also I need a paratrooper template

[broken sky]

Also, if you want to take France, make sure to take France and Belgium European land ONLY in the peace deal, since Belgium tends to get roped into the war, and joins the Allies early.

Well, if you don't want to war with the Allies early.

[wraith mauve]

Can somone give me a good paratrooper template

[opal nymph]

1 battalion if you are doing memes, 9/0s with support companies if you want them to fight

[misty fossil]

no

i wish

[wraith mauve]

K Ty

He he ha ha

I can make about 100 more of those should I land in Uk to

[wraith mauve]

English?

[charred lake]

My Honest Reaction:

Is what it says

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/asshole-stalin-gif-7577563

[dusky burrow]

quick, kill him before he gets you

[dusky burrow]

gets overthrowed
What did Yuan Shikai mean with this

[slim nexus]

https://x.com/HOI_Game/status/1970810392822825066?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

Hearts of Iron (@HOI_Game)

Will an empire rise in the East, or will an unbreakable coalition push back against invading forces? History is yours to shape in Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass 2!

X · Sep 24, 2025, 11:19 AM

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/bateman-axe-bateman-blood-patrick-bateman-american-psycho-gif-4809274724049481617

[split bane]

BALKAN REWORK????

[heavy vigil]

Central america

[broken sky]

Ice picked

[normal bloom]

Banana

[sudden grotto]

Not another expansion pass...

I really wonder how much its gonna take to make all the releases...

[feral lark]

o7 Heroes of NULL

[digital jolt]

brother that's czechoslovakia

[vapid bough]

bros I have no idea what is going on in the air force
I went from clapping them to getting clapped and now I'm back to clapping them
nothing changed

[vapid bough]

I thought that my planes were getting outteched and that the Axis was just stacking way too many planes in the region so I sent my planes back home for a while and now I am back to beating the hell out of them

I guess I managed to get some equal numbers while waiting for my air force to rebuild

[split bane]

Yeah ik, what I meant to say was Little Entente rework

Which I should've said in the first place

[fierce mist]

https://tenor.com/view/ronnie-coleman-yeah-buddy-light-weight-bodybuilder-gif-13490358335738779484

[gusty oracle]

is this TFR?

[scenic moon]

Its bohemia's coat of arms so its prob czechia pack ig

[sudden grotto]

Czech rework would be crazy

• romanian One ig

If they dont add zapadoslavia in czech rework its not worth it

[stoic cargo]

Yea good luck with that xd

[sudden grotto]

Schizo battle

Romanian troops accidentaly used 2 pills of pervetin in One go

[stoic cargo]

i mean they are kinda stupid ngl, i set forts so they don't attack me while i mine the shit out of Black sea, yet they still go for it..

[vapid bough]

Greece lost half of their own country and they're taking it out on the Italians

[stoic cargo]

like why are you even trying

[cursive oxide]

the ar adding man the guns to the base game ?

[craggy dove]

does belgium do its part in the shared focus tree if so when?

historical*

[barren crag]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/hoi4-official-dlc-release-november-20th-no-compromise-no-surrender.1860234/

Season pass 2

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/1nq0f31/hoi4_no_compromise_no_surrender_november_20th_dlc/

[craggy dove]

did that get leaked?

[barren crag]

Idk i found this on reddit

Also wtf is a theater pack and a focus pack?

[craggy dove]

what coat of arms is that?

[cedar lance]

looks similiar to Estonias

[wintry island]

Hello <33 i would like to help regarding the german military origination, i tried finding a guide online on the most optimal route for upgrading it, does anyone have a spreadsheet, or a simple show just comparison in total stats given by each MOI company (germany specifically)

[potent zinc]

maybe it's dutch

[wintry island]

oop organization

[craggy dove]

looks more czechoslovakia like

peace for our time seems something to do with munich conference

[wintry island]

i got back to the game yesterday and decided to play ragnarok, looks like i still got it 😂

[potent zinc]

yeah

finally czechoslovakia rework

[sudden grotto]

Bohemia

[cedar lance]

im hyped and pumped for the NEW DLC and Expansion

[sudden grotto]

Huh? i dont think lop

[cedar lance]

ill always buy the new stuff

like dlcs expansions etc

[sudden grotto]

Doesnt look like estonian to me

[potent zinc]

i think they will also rework focus tree for romania

[sudden grotto]

Its bohemian

Or czech

Whatever its called

[craggy dove]

also the slovak coat of arms

is in it

so czechoslovakia for sure

[cedar lance]

hello yalls tbh and imo PDX should release another unit pack

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/slovakia-gif-9466492006236051147

[misty fossil]

-40% cs factor

bro

[misty fossil]

“focus pack”

have they learnt their lesson?

[sudden grotto]

The czech focus tree tho sucks

[clear dagger]

no way cav only sheeps mod works

[sudden grotto]

Decades old

[craggy dove]

yeah, at least its a country thats historical and people want to play unlike afghanistan or iran bruh

[barren crag]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/1nq0f31/hoi4_no_compromise_no_surrender_november_20th_dlc/

[misty fossil]

well

we have learnt not a lot of people want to pay 20 usd for a pure focus tree dlc

[blazing belfry]

what even is the potential for a czechoslovakia focus tree?

Maybe we get one more state that Germany can annex...

[sudden grotto]

I would 😏

Simeone gotta feed the pdx

[wintry island]

does anyone have a guide on MIO

for germany

the most optimal meta upgrading setup

and a comparison between each one

[stoic cargo]

What could Thunder at our Gate be, other than Asia?

[slim nexus]

Obivously africa

[blazing belfry]

I just mentioned that in #latest-updates

[stoic cargo]

yea i got some ideas about Tunis

[slim nexus]

YES I THOUGHT TOO NORTH AFRICA HIVEMIND

[blazing belfry]

❤️

italian north africa released on start 🥺

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Libya

Tunisia Carthage meme path would be awesome

[sudden grotto]

Whats a theater pack?

[gilded hearth]

man the guns is free lets go

[ornate marlin]

i love being unemployed so much

i get to wake up and open the curtains to a sunny morning

and play hoi4 for the rest of the day

[gilded hearth]

wait lets go i can design ships now cause of this dlc

WAIT I CAN FINALLY DO SOME OTHER ACHIVEMENTS

we are so back

[vapid bough]

wth is this bro

what did the balkans do to bro

eh, every plane in yugo is a plane not on fighting d-day

[gilded nymph]

So the man the guns is free?

[white echo]

Yes man the guns is free

[gilded nymph]

I like how I just bought it a week ago just for it to be free now

That’s pretty stupid because now I wasted money when I didn’t know it was going to be free

I bought it before the announcement and before it was free

from now on I learned my lesson from them.

<@&846894118219022336>

[sudden grotto]

Why did you tag them lol

[gilded nymph]

Because that’s pretty messed up for the ones who just bought it recently.

[sudden grotto]

If you are asking for a refund you aint getting it

Mods aint responsble for what pdx does

So It aint gonna do much

[gilded nymph]

Thats fine, because the new players now know not to buy DLCs from now on. There’s a lot of videos coming out saying to not buy them from now on, which that’s how I found out was on yt

[sudden grotto]

You gotta understand that those are old DLCs

Its reasonable they integrated th

[random snow]

I will be more than happy to help germany find out

[sudden grotto]

You aint gonna buy a dlc and instead wait a bunch of years for It to turn free?

[gilded nymph]

They just won’t receive another dollar from me. 🤷‍♂️

[sudden grotto]

It aint gonna change their ways anyways

[gilded nymph]

That’s fine, it changed my way.

[sudden grotto]

You Just got unlucky, pdx did a good move for the next new players

You Just so happened to be unlucky

[gilded nymph]

well hopefully the newer players do research before doing what happened to me. I mean how would you feel like wasting $20 dollars on something that became free under a few days? That $20 could’ve went into something else like a newer dlc or possibly another game or how ever you want to spend it on.

[sudden grotto]

Spending 20 on a old dlc, why didnt you go for stream keys? It costed 5

You could have saved more even with keys

<@&846894118219022336>

Stfu

Get lost

[gilded nymph]

Ya you’re right Ik you can find cheaper stuff somewhere else, but I support steam personally because they started all of this for computer users and helped games advance more

[sudden grotto]

Just tell It that you did it for steam points 😏

[gilded nymph]

I love this game, but what just happened doesn’t sit well for me that’s all. So I just won’t buy anything else anymore that’s all

If I knew this was going to happen I would’ve never bought it, i rather give the $20 to someone else and make me feel good. 🤷‍♂️

And now me and others took a L. Doesn’t sit well for me and others. Oh well lesson learned

I’m sure they didn’t know who was going to buy it anytime soon, but I believe that’s something that they should’ve made an announcement along time ago and put a date. They just did it right away and now others lost the $20 or whatever and they gained the extra $20+

[sudden grotto]

I wouldnt Say "gained" because they Lost a good sale

I could have been predicted too, how old the DLC was and the fact that navy mechanics was getting reworkrd

And man the guns was good especially for the navy design thing

It would have been a bad move letting It sit, a old navy mechanic dlc while a new and reworked One wss getting out

Tbh, its Better this way, for the new ones they get a free navy mechanic and more focuses for them so they can still enjoy mire of the base game

I used to play when the game i had was DLCless , so only paths in default, historical ones, i think It was rather a smart move from pdx

[gilded nymph]

I believe that should’ve been added along time ago. Navy is one of the main tools in the game. Could’ve made an announcement for an update for it. Instead they made it under a DLC and made others buy it just for it to be free later on.

[sudden grotto]

Thats like saying they should make by Blood alone and no step back free.

Thry should get profit somewhere too you know?

People can Just make moss and forget about vanilla

[gilded nymph]

I mean that’s probably the next step anyways so

[sudden grotto]

And this makes One of those usual arguments "dlc should be free"

[sudden grotto]

Ye, in about a year or more

Waiting that long for 20 bucks

Thats kinda wild

[clear dagger]

you can make that by mowing 1 lawn

[sudden grotto]

Or Just a 2 hour work...

Tho It depends

By country

And shit

So i aint gonna go Deep into these

[gilded nymph]

Maybe dlcs should be more of a focus tree thing and maybe some other stuff to make it WORTH it and not to be free later on. most of the DLCs have focus trees but still idk. But hey my opinion doesn’t mean anything to them so it is what it is lol

[sudden grotto]

Dlc should be reworked to give more entraitanment

[mild plaza]

Its pretty classic. Like pdx doesn't need to pay its devs and everyone else working on the dlc

[sudden grotto]

Why Always keeping It old

[craggy dove]

are keys safe?

[sudden grotto]

Lol

[sudden grotto]

I got 4 dlc by keys

Maybe 6

Dont Remember

[gilded nymph]

Not to sure for that website but I do know legit websites

[mild plaza]

Technically you're not allowed to talk about unofficial resellers

[sudden grotto]

Hmmm

Ok ig

[mild plaza]

There's a list of pdx approved ones tho

[sudden grotto]

Eneba should be in it

G2 too

Like, the popular ones

[peak mason]

Bought by blood alone my second dlc

[gilded nymph]

G2 legit

[sudden grotto]

Instant gaming

And so on

Kinguin

[mild plaza]

Nope

[sudden grotto]

But if you are stoobid and go to obv scam webs It aitn their fault lol

[sudden grotto]

Huh

[mild plaza]

Here's the list

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[sudden grotto]

Never Heard of any of them

Noice

[gilded nymph]

Hey that extra $20 can go into food to feed me for a day 🤷‍♂️

Or feed someone else

[sudden grotto]

You Just got unlucky

Dont blame It on them

Lol

[cedar lance]

ill buy ALL of the NEW content

[sudden grotto]

Or at leats

Not all of it

[gilded nymph]

100 percent blaming them😂💯

[sudden grotto]

👍

[mild plaza]

If you bought it in the last 2 weeks steam might refund it

[sudden grotto]

You wont get a refund if you played more than 2 hours right?

[gilded nymph]

Have to be under 2 hrs I believe tho

[sudden grotto]

How much did you play

[gilded nymph]

But possibly can work it out with steam. It has happened to me before

[sudden grotto]

Glorious words

💔

english only🔥

[limpid field]

is it possible for the just russia to win in the election in tfr

[sudden grotto]

[gilded nymph]

Now that’s a crazy map I see

[untold sphinx]

why

[mild plaza]

@solemn rose english only

[solemn rose]

i dondu nuffin

[gilded nymph]

Trolling ^

[clear dagger]

you may only speak the language of the largest empire in history

[untold sphinx]

anyone has good mod recommendations

[limpid field]

the albanian empire

[solemn rose]

tgwr

[untold sphinx]

no like vanilla+ mods

[mild plaza]

Unironically. EAW

[solemn rose]

oh

let me check

[limpid field]

why would you play vanilla+

just play alt history mods

[solemn rose]

just visual or content

or any

[untold sphinx]

Any

[cedar lance]

🇪🇪 URA!!!

[untold sphinx]

they're usually too ambitious and lack proper diverse focus trees

kaiserreich for exemple is so linear

i dont like modern day mods aswell like tfr or millenium dawn

yesterday i was looking for proper turkish focus tree mods but theyre actually either just as bad as vanilla or not compatible

[clear dagger]

not compatible with what

[untold sphinx]

my modlist

or the game idk didnt try it on vanilla

[solemn rose]

real casualties 1-1 is so fun and actually impacts the game

and other than this i use germany uncensored and modifier icons for visual mods

also no undeleteable units

ideology graphics is fine too

and uncensored event pictures

my vanillia modset

and most important this

should be added in game

[solemn rose]

check better turkey +

and europe in flames mod

[scenic moon]

Why would u even want to play trky

[blazing belfry]

ataturk 🇹🇷 🇹🇷 🇹🇷 🇹🇷 🇹🇷 🇹🇷 🇹🇷

[scenic moon]

Here we go again

[blazing belfry]

im more of a greece fan im joking but I suppose ottoman would be fun

[scenic moon]

Yeah it has cores

[vapid bough]

Hitler sending more troops to the Balkans than his own country

[scenic moon]

He will settle into Balkans

[slim nexus]

I’d pay 40euro for a ai dlc

Ai so shit especially in unhistorical

[uneven portal]

why pay

when sheep's mod exists

the ai makes actual divisions, civ boosts eachother, and so much more

[solemn rose]

name?

[icy crescent]

https://youtu.be/GA4JThRBvck

[slim nexus]

Yeah but that isn’t historical it’s just giving the ai cheats which is my main problem with difficulty mods

[eternal palm]

🥱

This was fun

[sudden grotto]

Why not Eva braun 💔

[eternal palm]

Cba

[leaden rover]

since when could you get achievements with mods

[eternal palm]

Mods that dont change the checksum

Such as Graphic mods

[dry kayak]

I NEED EXTENDED FUEL FOR NAVAL INVASION

😂

[leaden rover]

oh i thought all mods werent allowed

[eternal palm]

There used to be a mod with which you could cheat

[leaden rover]

that's nice

[eternal palm]

Nope only those that change the checksum

[sudden thistle]

Sheep’s mod is the name

[dry kayak]

Noood don't cheat, wanna compare getting mad 150hrs to figure out why you suck? lol

[leaden rover]

are the allies supernerfed in the 1939 startdate it feels much easier

[sudden thistle]

The 1939 start date is just really bad

[dry kayak]

well, historically USA start the big rearm after 1941

so you have 2 yrs before getting invaded everywhere

[leaden rover]

yea but france and britain are just alot easier to push through

i checked france only has like 70 divisions

in the 1936 startdate france has around 100+ by 1939

[dry kayak]

brits should be strong btw

[dry kayak]

yep but they are butter and dispersed

france get very strong around 1940, they use wide division templates and armored

[leaden rover]

should i make medium tank divisions or stick with the light tanks when i play as germany im relatively new to the game

[leaden rover]

oh

so if you fail to cap france by 1941 you have very little chance of winning

[dry kayak]

i ask that yesterday and they suggest me to go for medium from 1939 and on

[misty fossil]

what

[misty fossil]

its extremely bugged because paradox doesnt work on it often i believe

[dry kayak]

maginot is almost unbeatable, should attack belgium.... ahhahaha

[misty fossil]

light tanks are only good as light reconnaissance company

[remote quarry]

don't make light tanks

[peak mason]

I bought by blood alone finally my second dlc

[leaden rover]

you can now steal the british navy

lucky

[dry kayak]

with italy light and medium have slight differences until 1940 🥹

[misty fossil]

id still make lights

[dry kayak]

paper tanks on the way

[leaden rover]

i js dont make tanks as italy

i rely on infantry

[dry kayak]

i used to do that like you, but i discovered that they work well if you unlock a couple of improvements

[misty fossil]

ew infantry

its over

ngl

thats fair

[leaden rover]

it works really well in africa until i have to fight in mainland europe

[misty fossil]

italy has no industry anyway

[dry kayak]

36 improved chassis, engine 4 armor 5, and at least unlock the second lvl on AT gun

[leaden rover]

uh

i dont own the tank designer dlc

[dry kayak]

not so true, let's say that you have to spend the first year just making civ factories, then from half 1937 start making military

at the beginning yes, it's like playing a blank country lol

[leaden rover]

i can get a half decent industry with italy before the war

[dry kayak]

give the priority to the annexion of albany and yugoslavia, go for italy first

[dry abyss]

is man the guns free now?

[dry abyss]

cause i’ve got no internet and need to know

[dry kayak]

so you'll have a lot of puppets (dont keep the ethiopian, brake it in puppets, they will grow)

puppets growing means more factories and troops

and keep building on their territories

spam screen and subs and you'll survive lol

[leaden rover]

i spam subs all the time either way

im too scared of navy

man the guns being free is gonna force me to learn the designer

[dry kayak]

dont make multipurpose ships

[celest dirge]

Okay, how do you guys thinks about MtG is free now? Is it a good thing?

[dry abyss]

Oh so it IS free after all?

[leaden rover]

mixed

[dry kayak]

yep, imho all the designer should be free

[leaden rover]

it's good that it's becoming free for broke players like me but the people who bought it beforehand should recieve a refund or a free dlc

main thing i want is the ability to steal navy

[dry kayak]

you can when you win the war

[leaden rover]

you cant if you dont own by blood alone

[dry kayak]

french gives you the best navy with italy

[dry kayak]

really?

[leaden rover]

yea

[dry kayak]

crazy

ahahahhahahaha

[sudden thistle]

What

[dry kayak]

i took france 9/10 of the games and i keep their navy

[celest dirge]

Why? Spam sub is enough to blow up enemy, why steal?

[dry kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/mwah-dua-lipa-chefs-kiss-lie-detector-gif-14844808810597451202

[leaden rover]

it's fun

[dry kayak]

subs are good for rading but they are week against a small fleet with screens

[leaden rover]

steal strong navy is fun because enemy country worked hard for it but you can just steal it

[random snow]

jesus christ

[celest dirge]

But you not use them to fight right?

[dry kayak]

"you can just steal it", you have to beat them lol

[leaden rover]

beating them is easier than building a navy from the beginning

[dry kayak]

251 armored? bye bye bro lol

[random snow]

fr

[misty fossil]

false

[leaden rover]

164k manpower?? tf

[dry kayak]

*german armored

[misty fossil]

if you build new ships you are getting ships that are faster and stronger

[random snow]

LMAO

[celest dirge]

You haven't build a proper Navy, have you?

[misty fossil]

the average british ship is sad and old

[leaden rover]

how did you know

[dry kayak]

with italy is so painful making divisions, they have so many coordination penalities lol

[celest dirge]

Because it is easy to build a navy.

[misty fossil]

bro capitalised the word Navy

its over

[dry kayak]

you need researches for 4 yrs to reach a basic decent level

[misty fossil]

nah

you just need to research carriers

i mean

[dry kayak]

carriers are good

[misty fossil]

carriers and planes tech

[dry kayak]

you need 3 years to finally have the good one lol

[misty fossil]

the other ships are optional

[remote quarry]

you need two techs as italy

the 3rd and 4th armor tech

and that's all

[leaden rover]

has someone here invaded france through the maginot

[celest dirge]

3 year? Carrier don't need that much time.

[remote quarry]

this is also true for germany and any other nation

all the good navy techs are 1936 ones

all that navy's about is IC

if you invested enough into dockyards

[untold sphinx]

mog

[dry kayak]

at least 1.5 yrs to unlock the 1936, then you have to make them, and they need around 9-10k of production

[leaden rover]

who is this man

[untold sphinx]

earl browdeer

got him when i puppeted US into communist

[leaden rover]

his name is earl

what the hell

[remote quarry]

hence don't make carriers

and 3 year isn't even that much

just start day 1?

[leaden rover]

you could be the most handsome man on earth and have it all negated because your name is earl

[uneven portal]

it's easy, capital ships get aa, make heavy cruisers with good light attack, light cruisers with good spotting and lastly roach destroyers

[celest dirge]

1.5 year? Only land lock country need that much time.

[dry kayak]

i've unlocked the medium 1940 if i remember, maybe also the next level

still have to try it

[leaden rover]

what

[misty fossil]

not here

[fallow cove]

Tuff name

[misty fossil]

but it is entirely doable

you need the siegebreaker commander ability, cas and railway gun

[remote quarry]

all armor techs are 1936

[uneven portal]

that's the only thing u need to do with ur navy designer

[uneven portal]

well not really

[misty fossil]

and armoured assault battalion

[remote quarry]

im talking about navy

[dry abyss]

yeah

[leaden rover]

im just gonna spam subs

[remote quarry]

easily

[dry abyss]

its pretty easy ngl

[misty fossil]

idk then i just go around the maginot

[uneven portal]

u can brute force it with enough determination

[remote quarry]

make sure you have flame tank and engi in the division, attack from 5 directions, click fort buster

[uneven portal]

under green air, ur unstoppable

[dry kayak]

oh, i have the dlc, i have all the tanks tree

[dry abyss]

but i still prefer to go on the benelux since i dont need to grind the generals and do everything

[remote quarry]

maginot doesn't do anything

[uneven portal]

forts can't stop the green air king

[dry kayak]

but for navy yes, 1936 carriers do the job

[remote quarry]

fort doesn't stop anything

[uneven portal]

level 10 does

especially with sheep's mod

[leaden rover]

not even 1 infantry battalion??

ok

[dry kayak]

try to push the french in the alps with full forts

let me know lol

[remote quarry]

not true at all

[uneven portal]

they'll slap a heavy tank destroyer on the Maginot and ur tanks get deorged fast

unless u have green air

[remote quarry]

easily

[remote quarry]

you don't need air at all

[dry abyss]

im getting flashbacks to the time bro spammed lvl 10 forts against me

when it was a 2v1

[random snow]

to easy

[dry abyss]

:(

[remote quarry]

now it's no longer a thing

since levels are capped

[dry abyss]

thank god

[dry kayak]

i tried the combo railway guns+strategic bombing on forts: they are faster at repairing it

[spice turtle]

apparently spelling isn't "to" easy for you though

[untold sphinx]

communit france playtrough

[remote quarry]

superheavy railway gun + flame + engineer + fort buster basically removes like 6 levels of fort

and then you attack from multiple directions

[uneven portal]

year: 1951

[remote quarry]

the fort doesn't do anything

[dry abyss]

yep

[dry kayak]

ok, now doit before 1939 lol

[remote quarry]

ok?

you can kill sheep france right through the maginot

even before 39

[uneven portal]

brother u said u don't need air then u say you need 50 other things that take way longer to get than a decent airforce

[leaden rover]

what if the germans scorched paris before it got liberated

[remote quarry]

which one?

superheavy railway gun is two research, and one special project

flame is day 1 speical project

engineer obviously

fort buster you also start with

[dry kayak]

with italy to have the flametank you need the special research and tons of time and resources

[uneven portal]

and air is available on game start

[dry kayak]

not affordable if you start at 1939 with a naked country

[vapid bough]

the British wanted Saxony so bad that I had to withdraw my bid for it and it lead to Hitler staying alive

[remote quarry]

??

im just saying you don't really need air

[uneven portal]

you don't need air but you need fort buster, super heavy railway gun and flame tanks?

the flame tanks sure

but fort buster and super heavy railway gun is just unnecessary

ur not gonna use fort buster in every situation, ai doesn't build forts that much

air on the other hand

like ???

[leaden rover]

soo

since man the guns is integrated now does this mean we're getting a britain and america rework

[misty fossil]

flame tanks yeah

[remote quarry]

this is sheep mod

with no fort buster btw

since you get way too much fort modifiers

zero percent debuff from forts

clicking into maginot day 1

[uneven portal]

soon

[uneven portal]

yes I said that

[uneven portal]

^^

[uneven portal]

with super heavy railway gun

[misty fossil]

how are you piercing the french heavy tank divisions

[uneven portal]

and if the french had an airforce u would underperform

[remote quarry]

super heavy railway gun is the best special project

you always do it

[remote quarry]

lol there's no time for air to go into combat before the tile is broken

[remote quarry]

im not arguing against air

im just saying forts are so useless that you can just easily break them with any reasonable division

[uneven portal]

ok but air is more versatile

[uneven portal]

you were

[remote quarry]

??

[vapid bough]

what is hitler planning

[leaden rover]

maybe appeasement will do the trick

[remote quarry]

this

is just simply not true

[leaden rover]

hand him gdansk the world doesnt need war

[uneven portal]

u literally said "u don't really need air"

u said u don't need air to break forts but u need a sh. railway gun and fort buster 😂

I'm ending it here since we're going nowhere

[remote quarry]

and you said "you have to have air"???

do you understand the difference

[remote quarry]

?

air doesn't even help you as much

sh railway gun's bonus on its own is basically like half of CAS bonus

and it removes 53.3% of the fort levels

only reason you don't see people using it as much is that they are not optimizing their play

[humble wing]

Did they drop the new DLC announcement?

[urban ivy]

i got

quesitons

what compensations could i receive

[vapid bough]

bro, yugoslavia...

[slim nexus]

Guys look closely at austria-german border here top left corner

[trim pike]

?

What about it

[slim nexus]

Germany is yellow

But why

[heavy vigil]

Romanian puppet

[random snow]

Operation Blau (Definitive edition)

84th and 106th armored divisions are charging full ahead

[humble wing]

That Is One good Stalingrad (i am saying but j am not good in the game)

[urban ivy]

easy i guess

[icy crescent]

I finally understood why the leader of Mengkukuo the Naval Bomber buff owns.

It's a reference to the Mongols failing multiple times to invade the Japanese Islands due to the harsh seas.

It's double ironic, because puppet.