#hoi4-general
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idk, many ppl told me to not do those tanks but they are so based
Just grind in spain
Heavies r better stats wise iirc and thats like the only reason why
my general is based
but i did heaveis too lol
And invest even more into air
for france
Iirc apparently ger does howi med and heavy td?
I've done that before it is fun
yeah but instead of howi i did amphibs
U do howi gun on amphib๐ฅ
Yeh that'd also goated
But imagine howi 2 amphib against gun2 soviet massmob
Cos noone in ape games gets gun3
with cas that woukd stomp soviets
Battleplan time๐
Yeh mediums r so stupid
Ngl tho in ape hist i did the 5/13
And it works so well
liek those stats r rly good
Like u can snake so much
As long as there isnt a td
U force attack
And lose nothing
And have tim3
To save th3 tank
this?
Yes
I personally did i5 with mediums but that 2as a mod with mc3
U can also just do alphib
Amphib
And are fine
400 hp ๐
Td in this case is probs bett34
no stats ๐
U might make the other td bounce
yeah
ohh
i actually ahd 6 veteran h tds from france
U grinder them in france?
spain
idk how they r still veterans lol
From spain and china
how
damn
Its just horrific to micro and grind all gens properly
But if u do it properly
U get tank fm
Tank gen
Inf fm
And if u rly want can get a dday wall gen/rm
Fm
And put ur own mech on dday
btw, whats good amount of tanks for danzig/france war?\
I generally just do abt 10? But imo just make sure u have more than france
And France has 6 max
10 heavies or mediums
?
how ๐ญ
what abt air?
I'm doing a sheep mod game as ger against double buff allies
Should always be red day1 so I dont bother looking at it
Unless they strat bomb
when do u start building aier then
Just put air over rhine airzone
as ger
Whenever Italy gets it
But I mean i don5 care about it cos vets dont care about red air
If i do mediums I'm rly greedy and go down on 30 on meds
And put like 60 on air
10 on other stuff
Whatever left on mech
I gotta go now cos p0 In school
๐ญ ๐ญ
alr, see u
Yea u grind IW howitzer for daimler
Then use those on dday
Don't forget to apply heavy cranes policy on Daimler
but i still dont get how to get 10 tanks by war with france
do u like put shit only on heavies until 39 and then u start making mediums?
fr*nce
Well that's 10 heavies
You deploy mediums later
My guy @tender swift over here is able to get 14 tds by danzig
I got summoned ๐ฃ๏ธ
but u also build air right
Enlighten this guy about ger I can't do it :prayge;
yes pelase
what's that about
How to balance air and tanks on td germany
Well tbf, balancing these two will most likely make you lose
not enough tanks against sov & losing air
so you gotta prioritize one of them
what do u think is better to prioritize >
So, either you be happy with 9 vets td's for france and let it go
or you go all and 14-18 (depends on trade) td's
vanilla checksum is mostly about air
so I'd say air
do u also do mediums or no
yes, but not for france
for dday
just have it like 5-10 on it
or mass mob sovs
for dday-el ala clicking
yeah yeah
when do u put it
it depends what ussr does as well
after like you have 10 on heavies
in vanilla most of the times it s just mass mob
how much do u normally have on heavies until u start building air
25-30
alr
including armor meme ofc
for entire game? or u go up on it later on
don't touch the mediums but yeah you go up heavies later on
unless you see a lot of soft target potential then maybe yeah
I wouldn't do amphibs but that seems nice
extra research like meh
amtrac on the other hand 100%
still, its a funny build
@tender swift last question, do u think its better to make the howi mediums with amtracs or mech?
Amtracs if u can afford but mech/mot is fine
But is this sp
Amtracs are basically just better mech
no
And mot isn't fine ๐
He's asking mp specific
I didnt back read ๐
๐
amtracs are always better but if you can't afford it mech is fine
and I'd probably spare amtracs for heavies instead mostly
Although idk if you can cheese special forces cap or not
i did those medium amphibs with amtracs and i didnt even have to do sf cap exploit lol
at some point you start to need it on mass numbers ๐
i was able to get 35 of them, and i had 20 h tds
I guess, if you say you don't need it then its fine probably; I don't remember the exact numbers tbf
nah thats actually insane then
They're exaggerating but be prepared for 6 hours of gaming, 1 hour of which is sitting in lobby waiting for a hotjoin because the host is ass
So yea they take long
Yeah I always say make the host an hour earlier to compensate for that
how the hell
lool?
omg
bro i tried to guard some subs from a few destroyers
and now the british royal navy is on my ass
and i won outnumbered like 3-1
Hearts of Iron Official Discord
Indeed
real
Hoi4 and fun 
dude this is like im actullay the real life leader
oh my god tno
not only is it complicated it runs like poop
TWR mogs
"Scream if you hate hoi4 but cant stop playing"
"Scream if you love crushing world powers as the worst minor nations in the game"
This is pretty good actually, you should keep using on the basis that you came up with them on your own
real
Best source of soft attack per batallion since you get SF buff on any heavy cannon
But the div is a bit too expensive
Which is prob the tank design
nah its perfect
its not unnecessary because amphib tanks receive spec ops attack buffs
thats perfect
17K cost only issue
For your tanks, its a bit high
Its affordable dw about it
Mediums are more expensive than heavies tho
50 per batallion instead of 40
Also which tank chassis do you use?
basic ofc
reliability is kinda important for barb imo
but if u do alot of amtracs then its fine to do interwar
like for 5/13 reliability isnt that important for tanks
for 9/9 it os
It really isnt as long as you dont attrition
Though i guess with amphibs you may be clicking marsh tiles for fun
But youre going 4kmh anyway no?
With 4kmh you can have 100 relia
MIOs+torsion bar can get it up further
actually on those tanks on screenshots i sidnt turn off on of the flame tank designs whixh reduced the speed, wouldve been 6 kmh without it
But you were going 4kmh so who cares
Soviet air is a funny thing to do
why cant i do a collab??
Democratic governments do not get access to them
Hi!
A friend and I have just started a game, our first non-solo game.
El Salvador versus fascist Germany!
So of course I've played 4 hours times more than him, and I've already played a dozen games with El Salvador, whereas he's only played 2 with Germany.
And, of course, I decide when we can fight!
I look forward to seeing your comments and having a good laugh.
lowkey dont think thats roosevelt but good enough ig
Remember mexico has a marsh tile
Its quite annoying to push
join twin
#1239926537512292362 exists if youre looking for people to join your multiplayer game, though its a very poor time to host
yeah we know
its 12 pm
tell them to wake up
No, get out of general chat or i will have to warn you, this is simply not the chat for it.
my fault twin
what
for asking for people to play with
nice
Yes
abuse of power
That is against the rules
yo casey i dont know this guy
lol
dont include me in his autism
๐ค
You can read #server-rules if you think its power abuse, im simply informing you it isnt allowed
Yk it's bad when Germany hasn't done anything by 1940
Im pretty glad that people asking for mp games in general is being cracked down more
@rustic furnace
What you want
what he said
come play mutiplayer
no
breaking the rules
why not
Im not going to play MP with someone 1, asking in general. And 2 breaking rules.
Sure....
What
...
WOOOO
nice
lucky man
why did no one tell me lithuania is this overpowered
because fun isnt allowed in hoi4
why do volunteers not get reinforcement
thats so dumb
@rustic furnace hihi can you help
Idk
I'm alive
No port/capital supply
oh my god
my capital?
Of the nation youre sending to
It either needs to connect with a port route to yours
figured
Or a land route to their capital
its a landlocked nation
Happens
every alt history path got the focus to start your own faction that nobody ever joins
as opposed to the join the faction thats already there
what if im also landlocked
Who
one of the most based paths in game ngl
you should try slavic union
Yeah there might be some logistical issues
damn
the mfing Yaks wondering what the hell mfers from the pony equivalent of TNO Burgundy is doing here
LOL
so do i get reinforcements if im landlocked?
i assume i would but idk
I dont think so if both are locked with sea in between
That explains it
Do hoi4 need more mod tools or nah?
Or a better one?
I wanna relaunch the project I did like 5 years ago
Tool for modders
Ik there a website but the one I made was a program and it works offline
how do i get rid of hubert pierloit as belgium, or is that a rt56 thing? (its for the EU, and i clicked i wanted Spaak but it didnt work, or do i just have to wait?)
Lithuania is great because you can Just give up memel and Germany will never come for Danzig
yea
i love turning off historical focuses
(yes,freakin ANDORA owns the the uk...which formed the franco british union)
Mittleeuropa > Axis
First one has a cooler name
is this good
if im playing as hellquill when should i start declaring war on the river coalition
peaceful
I wouldnt know
Never played them
Really?
When your focus tree finally lets you lmao
takes years
Before the form into the River federation or when barrad starts the war in the South
ah
im late then
it is what it is
I think the best option is to literally do no other focuses other than the ones to go to war asap
Maybe 1 or industry ones
But you really just canโt afford to wait
Get your conscription laws up as soon as possible, maybe even mass assault for the extra manpower
Is my strategy
Canโt remember if you actually need mass assault for manpower or not
But you have no resources either so I think best option is to just rush gun technology and make tanks that require low amounts of resources, no air really too expensive
i puppeted diamond mounts for some reason
seriously
oh
my
god
If they unify that already makes the war a bit harder
How much manpower do you have deployed compared to them
could someone give a link to the millenium dawn mod? im searching through the workshop and i dont really know which ones the real one so
Sort by most subscribed
Itโs that one
Its the one called equestria at war
okay thanks
You can still fight this war
Though you would have to take over a lot and do a lot of encirclements
Barbarossa is untenable, Iโm going to retreat until I get wunderwaffen
how?? im on historical
struggling on barbarossa are youa new player??
Did you puppet Malaya or East Indies or Philippinens?
Their focus tree gives a wargoal against these nations.
You'd have to annex everything and form the Eastern Griffonian Empire
okay
does anyone know why im not getting the achievement from owning a state on every continent while being at peace?
is the panama canal not considered north america or what
I don't think it is
its considered the dividing point
buy Belize
good
gonna civ greed as Imperial Germany I'm on non historical BTW
I'm building civs in the provinces that have dams BTW
W?
So from playing this mod, i am noticing everyone is joininh my faction so early on, like normally its all in 1939-1941 for these nations
thats gotta be half the German Army
You playing sheep mod?
Yep
Yeah Bulgaria joins faction early so it can rearm
๐
fun
hoi4 working properly as always
indian civil war got stopped by the british civil war
but they're still at war with the uk
planme
average goe gameplay
Top
Alr good i did that alr
How can i be entirely sure that the uk and usa wont declare war on me if i nationalize my oil as mexico? I did the great thing to set the game on unhistorical and everyone on random so im scared they will declare war
Maybe that
What am i doing wrong with the designs ? i don't remember this design being to fat
did i just declare was on someone without even declaring? ๐
its a carrier fighter
One question, does Paradox have some sort of recruiting system for voiceovers? I was wondering why so many nations actually lack voicing, so how come they never managed to go for it.
its heavier
oh my god
you put 2 armour plates in
Uni you should join hoi game tomorrow fr
I wanna have range
for germany specifically range modules r fake
u get enough
if i don't have that the range will be ass
look at what fw gives u
585๐
Perfect
They all suck
20% range from designer
wdym
with 0 upgrades
no?
Like bad players who are not good at the game so i will play the nation im worst at
from designer
ima just stick with using what i had before
Addfunds 1000000
Theres some more
But i dont use them
Fw is just better
Dont be stupid
I want to have range
Yes so you use fw
My dumbass will forgot to upgrade focke wulf
It auto upgrades
i appreciate that you think about me but i have plans for tomorrow
just dont forget?
You can queue MIO upgrades too
Sad... Good luck with whatever ur doing tho
thanks
Trying to invite my 3 friends from this server who arent sweats fr
Fine ill use the shitty design, i already know ima forget to upgrade it
average
I like clicking it manually because i have a zoomer brain that needs constant actions
But you dont have to
Is this like rt56 finland
Lemme recheck what i have
finland yes, but unmodded
thats a fully levelled mio btw
yeh
Also i wanna do that conversion thingy with fighters
what should the bad one look like that i convert into this
@heavy vigil
Ohh ok
im bad with csc
The inf equipment looks different
@marsh ravine
how do csc
i never remember
how do it
/ratios
i just alw go look in rb
@warped flint for range only u only need up to 7
You convert
If convert good is good
If need produce more produce more
If need convert more convert more
I am just confused what the design should be
This is what i got rn
idk what else to remove
Nothing
does anyone here play hoi4
No
ok
I rushed these
more mils?
Bros cooked
nah im good
hi good im dad
Weakness mf
why do i lose all my puppets when i flip fascist
Isn't Hoi4 just for shits and giggles?
some mods in the paradox launcher dont have thumbnails
the question is how he had china
declaring war probably
British thing
U must decolonise
sinkinag was in my faction
then when japan killed china
they declared on sinkinag
so i did a funny
you dont
declare on them during civil war
then annex them
ohh ty
can always use the #ask-for-help-here channel
Must say, poland did put up a fight
yummers
How'd u get pushed poopoohead
whenever i play as a small country with generic focus tree, my allies become brain dead
they let go of regno del sud and sent 10 million soldiers to die in naval invasions
this UK is cooked
what mod makes the map look like that
Ur bad icl
Haven't picked doctrine
๐ฅ
the waves rule britannia
what do you guys usually do in your liberia games
Exercise irl
i hope pdx changes the generic focus tree
why..?
Its very strong
70 days for 1 factory???
I'd like a snow icon for the division designer
thats also very strong for most generic nations
But imagine for 2 factories
We have this for the time being
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3247609887
also no non aligned advisors
embrace chaos
Sunclaw my goat
(No clue who the fack that is but oh well)
He recently came back last week
Wym integration?
I'm dumb
Compatability moresay for the ai
Oh
your mom (joke)
Hi Jon don
AHHHHH
Ur the person with maths right
The complicated maths
Unfortunately yes
idk if thats possible
Lmao. Probably would know it. I think math majors have to go up to calc 3 also
why are you british
I lose org to fast
My parents are dumb
rip
Are you double combatted?
I think math is pretty universal. Besides 99% of the time we use metric anyways for stuff that has units
Aoght
2 tiles attack he same one?
The most true statement I've ever seen
? No when you have the modifier
i think i did good
I built tanks as Luxembourg
No poopoohead
idk
B tier
I broke maginot with just siege buster in sheepโs mod yesterday
But for like few days the combat was going on I could see my strength bar dropping
Did not realize that forts had such an affect
Or wait it wasnโt the forts it was that I had -105% breakthrough
yeah this is def not happening
Youโre cooked
I didnโt look at the screenshot hard enough
Poland
i already turned the game off
U can deffo beat that maginot
i just lose all my org in 1 second
I just need to cycle
whats the goal?
I think you civil war, ally with France, and then kill Germany and the Soviets
you can also buy colonies I think?
Itโs very strange
Madagascar too
Huh??
wont happen
sheep already said making it compatible is a lottt of work
like multiple times
ok i might be cooked
minnesoda is better
obamna
EaW already does some of their own ai stuff too I donโt think the benefit would be as big
marcus aurelius?
I meme you could see Equestria do some memey stuff like declare war on the buffalos to get war eco in 1009 and do their war focuses
Man learns that people share first names
Colorized 2025
ok maybe im not cooked
Australia has 2
you know this server would be amazing if people had coloured names other then the moderators
Where is the Grand Tanu Tuvan encirclement at stalingrad Killing 100000000 Soviet Divisions
nonexistent
boosters...
Scam
I think people with a specific role maybe like server veterans should get a colored name
No bias here at all
you did not figure out bios existed in 22
Yeah I did
I wrote the bio on that date
the phillipines have a motorized division in denmark fighting with the danes and germans as they fight the UK
eu4 gameplay
Soviet union is bad, change my mind
@brittle cypress Wincenty Wilos or Stanislaw Mikolajczyk?
I have no idea who these people are
democratic leaders of poland
in the morges pact
wincenty gives tranining time war supp
stanislaww is stability
+5% recruitable pop
Good
How many carriers can you have in a fleet before the penalties come into effect? 4 or 5?
5
Your last 2 wings need to be carrier cas and carrier fighter
Everything else carrier nav
Cos 5 gets a minor debuff but with the 2 airwings being carrier cas and carrier fighter they eat up the whole penalty while not being in the battle so itd fine
Carrier fighters and Carrier cas are both useless
Thats why u have them eat the debuff
The only one that matters is navs
yummers
guys does hoi4 run ok with integrated graphics if i set all settings to low
i have an ok cpu
Graphics:Intel iris Plus graphics 655
CPU:Intel Core i5-8279U
will it run fine if i set all to low on 1080p
i have an ssd and 8 gb of ram
Need a good mountaineer division for invading Switzerland
Just buy the game on steam real quick and test it. Youโre guaranteed a refund if you play for less than 2 hours
Flight sim is just on another level compared to hoi4
25.2w mountaineer with flame, ranger, engineer, arty, field hospital
32.4 is probably better combat width wise
No
Its all mountain
So 25 is better
If u dont take debuff thats better
You dont have enough break
To justify overwidth
When it is all mountain
I know line arty is kind of bad but it wont hurt anyone if i put 1 right
It gives rlly good soft attack
It doesn't tho
Its just a waste thats it
Bro im so desperate as finland
When you say kind of bad it is actually just bad
?
Go mass assault right side
U have insane bonuses if u cant push its pure skill issue
Use ur special support companies
Make mountaineers if u have to
10W are holding front and 15W arty strike forces trying to hold Leningrad
Its so easy
I went for trench doctrine lol
No i dont need trust
Thats why u r struggling u dont have alot of manpower
Yeah absolutely
This is better for attacking
Hmmm
But why do u care abt that as finland in sp
When all u care abt is bullying soviets
I rely on my 1 W horses to garrison ports๐๐ป
I have 12+3 W elite inf to push but what im gonna do if i remove line arty
Line artillery is not bad for manpower constrained nations
Yeeey
Back then i was actively using line arty but idk why ppl abondoned it
Im actually building one
Just waiting for cap
Look at pins in ask for help
Okay
Its just inefficient esp against gun1 and above
(Gun1 with passives and above)
Id rather have mech over arty
What do u suggest as template
Maybe, it still offers quite a large benefit against gun 1
Gun 2 is where it's at
For push?
Is gun1 with passives not strong enough?
Fins have lots of buffs for winter war
Exactly
U have some of the best stats in the game
Being unable to push is skill issue
Camo expert might be the best thing ever, with that and from focus i almost get no hit from CAS
Compared to the artillery of that era? Having some artillery will provide your units with more firepower
Hoi4 or irl?
It's not a linear relationship, it is a parabola and the peak is the maximum firepower
War hasnt even started yet dont roast me ๐๐ป
Hoi4
Gun 2 basically shifts that peak all the way to 100% infantry
Ngl tbf I do not value line arty enough
But I also just think inf is so much better
And hp greeding is so good
You should be getting gun 2 as soon as possible anyways
Yeh ofc
It's an increase in firepower better than any artillery
Yep, only problem is waiting for mass production of new guns
I always go for tools first in industry branch
That's why you do it early
Oh yeah that too
Do your industry first then gun techs ahead of time
Unless you do not even have gun 1
Then it's sort of mandatory
Got it
Ngl even tho
Ik its 100% stats increase
I dont see value in going from gun0 to gun1
Rather have arty and fat divs till gun2 then make divs smaller
I found out 1 line arty debuffs entire template for attacking on several terrains
Its prob why
As well as org loss i think
Imo u do smol gun2 divs so u can snake but still have stats type shit
How to end a multiplayer game that is stalled?
Japan and I are doing naval combat since 1937
is this a good early game light tank template
how hasnt germany capped yet?
You didnโt raid the fuhrerbunker
something i wish paradox added is if germany has lost berlin and they are 80% surrender progress hitler commits..
Anyone knows how i get the saudi refugee national spirit in the fire rises?
Looks okay
B I G A U S T R I A
hilarious
Not even trying to be
Just genuinely hoi4 multiplayer isnt fun in most games
Cos they r all idiots
Who cant play the game
Fr tho
lithuania is suprisingly fun
Yes
Alot of them so
Do
I do sometimes
But like random lobbies r meant for memes
U play aussa and bully italy
Play austria and bully germany
That type of stuff
No need to make the divs smaller
Manpower diff?
Keep veterancy
Iirc arty is less manpower
Also with arty imo u go 39w so u can have more inf without losing veteranch
U have 0 break no matter what so I dont think it matters
With no terrain debuffs artillery + gun 2 is better than gun 2 alone by... around 2.3%. This just happens to be the average terrain debuff for the division
I see what you mean
Thing is your effective maximum org * soft attack would be 4414 with gun 0 and you would be using a 11/5 template, this increases to 5405 with gun 1 and you are using a lot less artillery (more of a 14/3 in this case)
Even rushing for 1939 artillery will leave you with an org * soft attack value of 5316, and you would have to use even more artillery in that case
One research of gun 1 is better than 2 researches of artillery
i thought i had historical on
This is the essentially the starting chain event should Celestia say that everything is fine in Equestria, or if Luna leads the reforms with some chain changes
They eventually join the Axis due to how their focuses happen
Probably 1945 or 1946
its 1941
well i cant complain i guess
Oof
Recovering from civil war is the worst shit ever
agreed
Yeah
which path is that
monarchist
wait is this lithunia
h
Man, is TNO going down the gutter?
What happened this time?
They are removing the African war, and probably removing the German civil war.
Oh that was announced a while ago, wasn't it? I thought it was something new
stronger weapons
I just learned about it.
Ah
Yea
ive never seen this before??
They could've trained enough divisions to increase their max volunteers by 2
dang
but russia always starst with like a 20k deficit
and I doubt ai converts to bad divs to pump out even more
ig they do that
nice
damn used to play 7inf-2art template alot
and got stomped
moved to 9inf with supports only
hi i am a hoi4 addict
and crushing it
Same frfrfrffrrffrrrrrrrfrr
Im curious? Who's allowed to host on this server?
uh anyone can host
like send a notification
in the mutiplayer channels.
Allowed*
typo
mb
*allowed
Anyways who is allowed use the host ping?
and not allowed to.
Chat the german manpower isnt great
Like what do you mean ive lost 283k in africa and europe since 1939 and 1,2 mil in army 300k garri and i got 3 on service by requirement
theyre mobilizing still

