hoi4-general

[tiny iris]

Dude, i remember my latest game. Making over 1k guns per day.

[hollow skiff]

;-;

[sudden grotto]

Flex?

[ebon osprey]

Herbert Seaton won the British Communist Civil War

[hollow skiff]

Respect 🫡

[tiny iris]

So I can spam coups

[fallow forge]

that wasntt everything

[sudden grotto]

I dont think its enough

[heavy vigil]

Good

[sharp sierra]

vlud just added two new production lines

[heavy vigil]

are those like dutch/romanian?

I cant tell by tank icon

[fallow forge]

austrian

[heavy vigil]

Oohh

[tiny iris]

Question, do you like do some stuff in HOI4 then screenshot your accomplishments so you can show it everytime or is this picture recently?

[azure elbow]

guys can you give me fun country(path) to play

[sudden grotto]

Austrian emblem on the back of the tank icon

[sharp sierra]

such dumb looking generic tank icons

[heavy vigil]

i save things when i think theyre cool

[sudden grotto]

Commie fr*nce

[sudden thistle]

Who would be fun to play in EAW because I never tried it yet

[heavy vigil]

Most of my saved pics are stolen

[craggy trail]

I still have to work with a bunch of other achievements

[heavy vigil]

Templates mostly

To send in ask for help

[azure elbow]

ok bet

[hollow skiff]

You have it written down????

[heavy vigil]

I stole this

[tiny iris]

me too.

[sudden thistle]

Now I’m stealing it

[heavy vigil]

You can tell its mine when its in portuguese

[sudden grotto]

Australian ones are so Easy but so boring at the same time

[sharp sierra]

bevrijding

[craggy trail]

I was so close to finishing the Tannu Tuva achievement, but I did not have enough war score for a few states

[sudden thistle]

Guys rate my division

[azure elbow]

huh

[hollow skiff]

Oef 😭😭😭🫂🫂🫂

[sharp sierra]

netherlands exile to east indies path

[heavy vigil]

Annexing DEI path is rlly good

[sudden grotto]

Coudltn you ask for control during the war? I did It and formed it

[heavy vigil]

You get like

+25%? Non core mp

Maybe more

And 70% free compliance

[azure elbow]

oh ok ty

[craggy trail]

I wasn't particularly able to on that run

[hollow skiff]

Oef 😭😭😭🫂🫂🫂

[tiny iris]

I got to show y'all my germany run. My greatest accomplishment thus far.

[hollow skiff]

It's alright tails, do you have a whole paper of achievements you want to do?

[hollow skiff]

And sort them on order?

[ebon osprey]

I think I will finish the save here

[hollow skiff]

@craggy trail

[soft yacht]

how many factories should i assign to subs and destroyers for spamming

[craggy trail]

Mmm, not exactly...

[ebon osprey]

What I learned from this save?

Adenauer is Communist
You should never surrender in Luxembourg
And USA is part of the Czech Entente

[tiny iris]

I have not watched MLP for a long time but I remember it was peak.

[hollow skiff]

@craggy trail 😭😭😭

[craggy trail]

Maybe you should go for a rewatch

[tiny iris]

Is that a reference to my pfp?

Napoleon.

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/pinkie-pie-my-little-pony-blush-gif-9630041

[hollow skiff]

Lmao 😂😂😂

[soft yacht]

.

[hollow skiff]

The most famous painting of Napoleon of course 😂

[craggy trail]

The napoleons are multipliying

[hollow skiff]

A lot

[scenic basin]

How do you get planes to fight back for superiority

[hollow skiff]

:>

[tiny iris]

This is a monarchy manifest.

[soft yacht]

hm alr

[hollow skiff]

:>

[craggy trail]

You may as well become ✝Napol3on✝

[soft yacht]

usually just do 4 for subs and 5 for destroyers

[sudden grotto]

Hire zeppellins

[hollow skiff]

Lmao 😂😂😂

I'll remember that X D

[fallow forge]

MOREEE

[viscid swift]

guys should 60 paratroopers be enough for uk?

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[craggy trail]

4-5 screens per capital ship
3-4 capital ships per carrier
4 carriers per task force with a max of 5 before heavier penalties kick in

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[viscid swift]

how much more

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kobe-bryant-gif-15223189

[scenic basin]

https://tenor.com/view/no-problem-mark-hamill-luke-skywalker-star-wars-jedi-gif-16316192

[sharp sierra]

how big are ur paratroopers

[vapid bough]

0 oil, 0 supply, almost 0 convoys
i think I know why the IJA randomly stopped eating now

[viscid swift]

huh

[sharp sierra]

how big are they

[hollow skiff]

😭

[viscid swift]

wdym

[fallow forge]

MOREEE

[sharp sierra]

yea like how tall are they

[viscid swift]

this? 😭

[hollow skiff]

If you see me with that username don't be surprised :P

[sharp sierra]

but i was actually asking what width are they

that mght not survive idk

[hollow skiff]

What kind of paratrooper is that? 😭

[viscid swift]

idfk

im new

[hollow skiff]

Show me

[hollow skiff]

The template please 🥺

[sharp sierra]

its just 3 paratroopers battaliosn i think

[viscid swift]

ohhh

[hollow skiff]

It's alright I was young once too

[heavy vigil]

Anythinf

[hollow skiff]

Now I'm 15

[heavy vigil]

Up to 32 width

[hollow skiff]

:>

[hollow skiff]

That's really small-

[fallow forge]

RAGRR

[sudden thistle]

More

[heavy vigil]

Template ?

[fallow forge]

YESS MOREE

[hollow skiff]

I mean good if you're paradroping france

[viscid swift]

what about uk 😭

[sharp sierra]

i would make an actually good unit that can land, entrench a bit and hold before you send some better units

[hollow skiff]

WHAT IS THAT COMBAT WITH-

[sudden thistle]

Make them bigger if ur doing uk

[sharp sierra]

once you capture a port

[hollow skiff]

Uhhhh

[viscid swift]

how much bigger

[hollow skiff]

Paradrop port Dover and it should be alright

[heavy vigil]

50

[sudden thistle]

I think 2 or 3 times bigger

[hollow skiff]

Yeah-

[sudden grotto]

2wt

[hollow skiff]

😭

[heavy vigil]

2 war thunder

Wow

[viscid swift]

this will be good?

[heavy vigil]

Cant paradrop

[viscid swift]

oh

hmm

[serene token]

Oof

[viscid swift]

this?

[heavy vigil]

Add support companies

Paratroopers are infantry after all

Not the most powerful unit offensively

[viscid swift]

also how much divisions will i need then

[fallow forge]

I build tanks bigger

than loosing

them

[heavy vigil]

Idk

Try it out

You can paradrop with anything

Bigger just means youre investing more and theyre more likely to win battle

[viscid swift]

huh why cant i save it

[viscid swift]

well i need to do it with that

[sudden grotto]

Best div ever

Banned in mp because too OP

[bright sinew]

Uh

I don't understand

Okay so I'm playing Sweden

I took this focus

Finland was attacked, so I took the decision, the Soviets won the Winter War and took part of Finland

Then I did a focus or something that let me puppet Finland, and 3 months later, this pops up

Why the hell are they attacking again? The Winter War just ended; Shouldn't they only start getting at each other's throats when Barbarossa starts?

I'm getting banged from the North and South because of it

I reloaded and hit the neutrality option, and there's no war, and Finland doesn't seem to care?

Is my game glitched or something

This is vanilla, all DLCs, Ironman mode+Historical

[buoyant flume]

I stopped world war 2 as France

[bright sinew]

did you do what the french should have done to begin with

and call the allies as soon as the rhineland was remilitarized

and marched in and kicked their asses back into berlin?

[buoyant flume]

Because I stood up the demilitarised the rhineland

[bright sinew]

after burning down their stupid planes of course

[bright sinew]

good lad

they should have done that to begin with

[buoyant flume]

I'm trying to go to war with them so I don't have to deal with them in 1940 and I can get vive la France but they gave didn't go tow war

I failed the task successfully

[bright sinew]

"sir the german army of 520,000 is remilitarizing the rhineland!"
"damn... all we have is 340,000 men, plus the Brits 208,000 men with their territorial army of 175,094 men and unequal navy..."

"let em take it"

[buoyant flume]

Then chad France stands up by themselves and Germany back down

@bright sinew well time for me to restart

[bright sinew]

loll

nooo wait

you gotta save the world from soviet communism

the next cancer

(that made someone out there butthurt)

[viscid swift]

guys can i send normal troops to britain?

[buoyant flume]

Im taking out Germany first not making it so they just keep rhineland demilitarised

[icy crescent]

Very mindful.

[buoyant flume]

Danm how did they get so many convoys your lucky you don't need to build anymore yoy can focus on navy

@bright sinew does Germany always back down

[tiny iris]

Guys, whats the best option?

[sudden grotto]

Surely dont kill him lol, he Will be killed and they get a war goal against you

[tiny iris]

Ok, thanks. Thought maybe I could take China with 20 divs.

[flat barn]

Victory accomplished

[sudden grotto]

You can defend...but when Japan joins you Will get crushed

[tiny iris]

Joins? I thought we were gonna team up against China.

[sudden grotto]

I was saying if you opted for the killing of Chiang kai

[tiny iris]

Ok, well. I let him go.

[fickle cove]

congrats

can you teach me how you defeated the uk?

[cursive oxide]

500 nukes will do it

[heavy vigil]

if you wanna go to war kill him

[sudden grotto]

"woooo sugoii"

[fickle cove]

do nukes automatically lower the war score of a nation or do they just damage infrastructure and more?

[heavy vigil]

yea

[cursive oxide]

Idk bro 😭

[fickle cove]

either way i wish to defeat the uk before january 1941... it takes me until then to even research the atomic theory.

[cursive oxide]

Never dropped one

[sudden grotto]

And then you have to wait the atomic reactor...and then the atomic bomb

[cursive oxide]

Operation sealion

[fickle cove]

exactly

[sudden grotto]

Operation green>>>>

[fickle cove]

i'm bad at navy :(

[heavy vigil]

they dont lower war score

they hit stability, supplies, buildings, war support

[fickle cove]

only time i EVER did a naval invasion in base game is when i naval invaded finland as ussr

[heavy vigil]

its good to nuke economies or freeze frontlines now

[fickle cove]

i see

[cursive oxide]

Is Steam down ? Cant open it

[heavy vigil]

still can nuke planes tho

[cursive oxide]

O now it's working after 20 minutes

[robust ibex]

after having the dlc for over 6 months i just now realised that you have to actually assign the mios to the production lines

[sudden thistle]

Bruh

[heavy vigil]

yeah and design

[sudden thistle]

U don’t notice that 😭

[robust ibex]

i have the attention span of a gold fish

[cursive oxide]

First ever nuke I dropped

[sudden grotto]

That was personal

[cursive oxide]

Why ?

Did I nuke your grandparents?

[cursive oxide]

Why

[void canyon]

what is a good mechanized division

[sudden grotto]

You odnt like bulgarians bruv?

Why you nuke bulgarians 🙏

Balkan internet moment

[void canyon]

hate it when that happens

[viscid swift]

why macedonia 🙏😭

[sudden grotto]

@cursive oxide

[sudden grotto]

Facts

I am asking the same thing

[cursive oxide]

Highest Chance to work

[void canyon]

chromium deletion

[sudden grotto]

Like, bomb Serbia or Bosnia, why macedonia

Poor bulgarians for nuked

[sudden thistle]

And why Yugoslavia 😭

[sudden grotto]

Tahts reasonable enough tho

Let them break up with a nuke

[cursive oxide]

Cus why not

[sudden grotto]

Hater

https://tenor.com/view/macedonia-macedonian-average-gigachad-gif-27224963

[viscid swift]

guys what do i click to make less angy hungarians (force them to be happy)

this thingy

[void canyon]

"improve relations"

ah

[sudden grotto]

Put as garrison law "harsh quotes"

[void canyon]

violently oppress them

[cursive oxide]

I'm at war with tema cus Romania what's at war with them then ussr joined the war and then NATO with china cus chinas where sr war with ussr

[viscid swift]

yeah but what did u click to violently opress them

[sudden grotto]

Harsh quotes

Fr fr

[robust ibex]

the second i read this they fell into a civil war in my game bro

[void canyon]

go into garrisons and press

either harsh quotas or martial law

idk

i puppet

[sudden grotto]

No garrison>>>>>

[void canyon]

yes ✅

removes the most resistance obviously

[cursive oxide]

@sudden grotto @viscid swift

[sudden grotto]

My english aint thst good to understand it

[viscid swift]

okay i have violently opressed them

[viscid swift]

wtf do u mean i do not understand a single word

[sudden thistle]

I can barely understand it either dw

[sudden grotto]

Lol

[viscid swift]

i should deport hungarians

[sudden grotto]

Yooo chill

[sudden grotto]

Peak democracy

[cursive oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/im-sorry-my-english-is-not-good-zack-carmen-sandiego-not-fluent-in-english-im-not-good-at-english-gif-19225376

[sudden grotto]

Peak

[viscid swift]

yay my first prototype is almost done :D

[viscid swift]

nuke prototype

hm am i cooked if i didnt attack the UK in 1943

im scared of D-Day

altho i did do something about it

[ornate marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/0-gif-14224457178163031750

[flat barn]

naval invaded with motorised divs had lots of cas and air and the raf was completely destroyed

its non historical tho so like

[languid patrol]

is la resitance good man the guns and gotterdangmarun good?

[gilded vessel]

Yeah

[languid patrol]

which one is the best

[gilded vessel]

la resistance adds spy agencies man the guns adds designs and gotterdammerung adds focus trees and stuff like that

[languid patrol]

is the deshgin complicated?

[gilded vessel]

yes design* is slightly complicated but is a amazing addition to the game

[languid patrol]

hmm

which one would u reccomend the most

i want them all for differant reasons

like gotgerdammerun really improves nukes and stuff

[gilded vessel]

nukes are a minor part of the game

[languid patrol]

maybe i just get the season pass? it seems cheaper

[gilded vessel]

oh wait

[languid patrol]

i mgetting man the guns

[gilded vessel]

i forgot no step back is the good dlc

that adds tank designs

[languid patrol]

this seems complicated

[gilded vessel]

not really its very usefull after you learn some good designs

[toxic bluff]

guys i did it finally... i beat united states being uk

[gilded vessel]

just remember high break through and some other stats like speed and soft attack

[languid patrol]

ill just get the seasn pass

[gilded vessel]

and not to mention no step back adds even more focus trees

[gilded vessel]

i think the season pass is a bad idea if you plan on playing hoi4 for a long time

eventually it will get more expensive than just buying the dlcs

[languid patrol]

okay ill just get man the guns

[gilded vessel]

alright

alot of people in the community agrees no step back is the best tho

but do whatever

[bronze mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1416350006985756714/1417207368554512515/hitler.gif

[fallow grove]

Are armored cars good?

[dusky burrow]

Balkan League? Never heard of it

[split bane]

No

Actually

[fallow grove]

Why they exist 😹

[split bane]

If you use them as garrisons they are kinda alright

But other than that no

[split bane]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[bronze mango]

"they are good at not being used"

[sudden thistle]

Because they were a thing irl

[icy crescent]

Let's gooo.

[heavy vigil]

i feel like roleplaying today

time to play south africa and do wholesome things

[flat barn]

which ideology

[heavy vigil]

c

[flat barn]

make sure not to kick out the white farmers

Ohohoho!

[serene token]

They were mainly created to beat up the Ottomans before WW1

[fallow grove]

So they not good in game

[soft yacht]

chat ts is tuff fr

austria and me are allies btw

[remote quarry]

paradox envisions them to be a cheaper alternative to light tank

but obviously nobody use light tank already

[fallow grove]

Against the ai

It works

[lapis snow]

so do loads of bad equipment types and division structures

doesn't mean you should use it outside challenges and memes

[sudden grotto]

They are Crazy good as garrisons

[mint adder]

Can i be honest

Encirclements are boring

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/family-feud-survey-says-strike-buzzer-wrong-answer-gif-16312959

[mint adder]

They make wars too easy tbh

[crystal tide]

most factually incorrect statement ive ever heard

[mint adder]

Well if its against china then yeah maybe encirclements are required

But if its like against ussr

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/red-army-berlin-soviet-union-ussr-russia-gif-13152874792523907328

Su 76M mentioned

[crystal tide]

🔥

[sudden grotto]

Surely you dont get pleasure by it

[mint adder]

I do get it

Wait a second lemme get dome screenshots

[scenic basin]

Does Japan ever bomb pearl harbour bc in my USA save it was 1942 and no pearl harbour

[crystal tide]

they dont rllyy do that just dec on the phillipines

closest to a pearl harbor would be them doing port bombing on hawaii which they need to be at war for

and also dont generally do

[scenic basin]

On the date imma declare war and attack

[sudden grotto]

Tbh the war begins Just with them declaring on philippines lol

[crystal tide]

i hope they do add smth for it with the japan update bc thatd be a neat way to slightly disable the us

[scenic basin]

Oh

[patent thistle]

very happy ottoman rome noises

[sudden grotto]

Unlock decision: TORA TORA TORA

[mint adder]

These are encirclements ive done in a mod, there were also others against that pink nation bc i had to conquer everything to cap them but i didnt screenshot them; at that point it became pretty boring

Theyre boring to me now

[patent thistle]

(UK and russia arent puppets btw)

[crystal tide]

i remember this existing but i forget what it does

[sudden grotto]

Only the last One was truly satisfying ngl

[sudden thistle]

Yearly raptor appearance

[crystal tide]

also tho i mean like a decision thing between japan & usa to like increase/decrease port security and on declairing damage boats in pearl harbor could be cool

[mint adder]

Basically that pink nations capped at 0%, but not in victory points, in literally EVERY SINGLE TILE

[sudden grotto]

Pov usa ships get randomly dmg and you lose 100 carrier Planes from your stockpile

[crystal tide]

too true

[mint adder]

i literally destroyed their entire army

Took all vps

And still didnt cap

[crystal tide]

oh that IS a thing?

[mint adder]

They capped when they had only 1 tile and literally a no strenght div

[crystal tide]

idk i dont play japan i just say shit

[mint adder]

I almost conquered

[sudden thistle]

When sheep’s mod

It’s peak

[crystal tide]

sigh

get shyy and toxic on board and im fine with it

[mint adder]

Casualties were almost 5 milion to them compared to mine 696k

[crystal tide]

or even just shyy she'll manage

[sudden thistle]

Are u scared

[crystal tide]

its you and i on usa we'll be okay

they have a much worse time

[sudden thistle]

Why can’t I play Brazil

[crystal tide]

almost forgot im in a public server

gotta watch myself 🙏 (thank you automod)

[crystal tide]

why i oughta

[sudden thistle]

It’s fun

Oh yeah

I have an mp guide for us

So u can use that while I do Brazil

Trust

[crystal tide]

bro 😭

[sudden thistle]

I know u need it

[crystal tide]

i hate using guides ngl

i figure it out eventually

[jolly kettle]

What could they do to make armored cars actually worth using

[sudden thistle]

True

[remote quarry]

make it have hp and org

instead of it being backline unit make it better mech

[jolly kettle]

Better mech would be interesting

[merry harness]

Lost as germany to sweden 🥀

[sudden grotto]

No? It was Just some prediction to the coming dlc

[crystal tide]

ok well you made me think it was smh

[gilded vessel]

i hate when a pin is too succesfull and instead of holding the troops in place it just moves them back on the province im trying to attack to encircle them

[jolly kettle]

Honestly why aren’t armored car techs just tied to tank research or something, it also sucks it’s separate research

[green moss]

It's time for WW3 (yes I know that TFR exists)

[terse ether]

is that md

[green moss]

not really

[terse ether]

what is it

[scenic basin]

Why cant the marines invade anyone

[green moss]

welp

[green moss]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3525219659

[sudden grotto]

Technically they arent really tanks

They mostly get machine guns as primary weapons and are more opted for Just light infantry support or have at least some armor tò use

[jolly kettle]

Well yes technically they aren’t tanks, there’s just…

Very little reason for them to be their own research IMO

[sudden grotto]

Naaaaah

Puma goes VROOOOOM

https://tenor.com/view/puma-german-tank-uzbeki-spyat-спокойной-ночи-gif-953846672618610722

[jolly kettle]

Puma can go vroom and not take a whole research slot

[terse ether]

so basically vanilla-ish md

[green moss]

I'm trying to find a properly optimised MD mod that I can enjoy

I'd love to bring the Chinese Century in MD, but games run slow af

[loud shuttle]

couldnt push russia so had to resort to orbital bombardment

keep in mind i have good divs

[green moss]

Imagine seeing this in 1915

[scenic basin]

Wow

[tiny iris]

Did they nerf the USSR? It just capitulated on historical.

[scenic basin]

"Sir... This bomb... It is so big!" 30s later shockwave hits

[tiny iris]

It seems the USSR is much weaker now.

[terse ether]

you wont because youd be dead

[terse ether]

no

[loud shuttle]

yes, minding your buisness anywhere in russia then suddenly 50 nukes drop onto you

[tiny iris]

My game is gone cuz of the USSR failing.

[terse ether]

but germany kinda got stronger

[green moss]

is there any good way to optimise MD (any submod)?

[jolly kettle]

Sometimes USSR just can’t stop the Germans

[terse ether]

you cant 😭

[jolly kettle]

Ends up being a slaughter

[tiny iris]

Well, thats my game and several hours gone cuz I need the USSR's support.

[green moss]

I hate that HOI4 relies purely on CPU ngl

[fickle cove]

ok then how did you achieve naval superiority?

[jolly kettle]

Who are you playing?

[fickle cove]

also, does the uk have a lot of troops in their homeland?

[tiny iris]

Communist China.

[scenic basin]

kinda

[terse ether]

you dont need the ussr

[jolly kettle]

Rough

[scenic basin]

1936-40 yeah

[terse ether]

just win in asia

[green moss]

Paradox Interactive didn't know a shit about Lua, so they had to invent their own programming engine

And it's sad

[tiny iris]

Its like my first time playing it.

[terse ether]

yeah the clausewitz engine sucks

[loud shuttle]

ah yes 1 day after lenin leaves switzerland

[green moss]

I heard there is a tools folder in HOI4 files. I don't know a shit about it, but in theory I think it's a good way to add support from external programming languages

dunno though

[dusky burrow]

God what have we done

[heavy vigil]

"little entente"

[sudden grotto]

New encirclerment casualties record set to 800k thx to swiss militias 🙏

[urban ivy]

very little

[bright sinew]

???

this is my third ironman game in vanilla with historical and the dlc and yet again

fascist germany has not declared war on the soviet union

[dusky burrow]

"gruesome" (they literally just walked in)

[bright sinew]

it's almost 1942.

what givees

[dusky burrow]

Very little

[lethal jackal]

gurl

why do i lose so muchh

likee im tryna do monarchist norway in r56 but so confusingg

i keep losing the civil wat

like ive maxed out my military tree and my industry tree but still im floppin

[bright sinew]

helo i show u today how make u big money...

1 u play island nation not under attack by germany

2 u make germany attack u

3 get len d lease from ally......

4... sell it back to them

😄

[lethal jackal]

gurl what abt my norway

[bright sinew]

#infinite money glitch

[lethal jackal]

any tipss

[bright sinew]

o ok

so 4 nor way waht u gonna do is

play sweden instead

[lethal jackal]

😂

[bright sinew]

sand

[lethal jackal]

ok sure

[bright sinew]

join allies

and then

declare war on soviet union

so the allies help u beat them

[lethal jackal]

any tips to likee learn the game

[bright sinew]

#moneyglitchsuprem,e

oh

[lethal jackal]

bc im so clueless

[bright sinew]

uhhhhh

[lethal jackal]

even tho i got like 100 hours

[bright sinew]

oh dont worry

[lethal jackal]

do i just play until i understand it

[dim hazel]

is puppeting better or is taking state better in peace confrence?

[bright sinew]

my experience was:

hour 100: i dont know what is going on but i like this game

hour 200: ok what is combat width then

hour 300: so... what's the meta now then?

hour 400: do i even need to follow the meta

hour 500: ok this is just a list of current optimal combat widths; im just gonna make my own templates

hour 550: my templates are garbage

hour 600: oh sweet bunch of guides on how to make templates that are up to date

hour 700: holy crap am i getting it?

hour 800: switches to a naval power

hour 900: ok this is stupid; i have A THOUSAND DESTROYERS ALL OVER HERE WHY CANT THEY GETY NAVLA SUPERIO-

hour 1000: ok. so im gonna spam subs.

hour 1100: subs and destroyers...

hour ....

hour 1870: ok these designs for ships are p cool

hour 2000: i understand the navy

hour 2500: NOW i understand the navy

hour 3000: i feel invincible

(take a 4 month break)

hour 3100: i cant remember how to play.

[bright sinew]

so

just keep playing

read guides

its a dense game

but its really not that complicated once you understand the big important things like combat width

[lethal jackal]

its not like rise of nations 💔

[bright sinew]

n

this is more like

war focused

[terse ether]

pretty accurate

[bright sinew]

tyty

oh

i neglected to put in there

hour 110: ok so... i need cas?

hour 150: i need plane.

etc

balancing tank prod with air plane prod was a huge learning curve for me on some nations

i woudl either have like

too many planes and not enough tanks, or too many tanks, not enough planes

o also you never ever stop learning new things

[scenic basin]

I failed to invade Poland so badly the allies invaded me and made me capitulate

[bright sinew]

im still learning new tricks with shortcuts and the ui as of like, 3500 hours

[icy crescent]

All time classic.

[scenic basin]

how defeat poland

[bright sinew]

air superiority and encircle

damn i remember that early on

[scenic basin]

how encircle 🫠

[bright sinew]

first boss was beating poland, then second was beating belgium

and netherlands lmfao
it was either netherlands or belgium, icr, one of those two just always would bite me back early on when i was starting to play lol

[icy crescent]

Have enough divisions, make sure that your divisions actually have guns and that your storage doesn't say -2000 Heavy tanks -5000 guns -3000 support equipment.

[bright sinew]

oh also

SUPPLIEIS

dont put too many divs in one area

[scenic basin]

I might just go to 36 and kaiserreich

[bright sinew]

i just noticed im screwin myself down here but lol

good example

[scenic basin]

when is Japan tech tree update

[sudden grotto]

lovely game ngl

[bright sinew]

jesus

dark asf game

rip to that world

my god

[scenic basin]

holy axis

[bright sinew]

unholy!

✝️

UNHOLY FIRE

jesus christ we gonna need ta resurrect stalin, churchill, and get patton in office for that one

[scenic basin]

why is a britton yapping about 10 downing street and poland

[proud tapir]

i wanna try some mods, anything good?

[dusky burrow]

1914 Germany is so successful they're invading the Channel Islands RIP

I definitely did not send an attache to them

[lapis snow]

That's Neville admitting he fked up

[dusky burrow]

Also for some reason Luxembourg is Germany's puppet and 23% capitulated

[scenic basin]

does that mean I did some bad things

[lapis snow]

its scripted to fire when WWII begins. It's the historical radio address the PM gave to Britain when Germany invaded Poland

[scenic basin]

oh

[proud tapir]

also is millennium dawn that bad?

[bright sinew]

man i cant wait until im a dad yall

im gonna ask to use my son's neural interface

and install mcaffee 2044 on it

without telling ihm

[scenic basin]

"Germany has untill eleven o'clock to withdraw there troops from Poland 🇬🇧 "

[austere star]

Guys what country should i play as

[heavy vigil]

fighting them rn

[simple plank]

Tanna Tuva

[simple plank]

Aussa

[simple plank]

domanican republic

[austere star]

you serious

[simple plank]

yes

[dusky burrow]

Is it Ragnorak like

[heavy vigil]

no its just south africa

[simple plank]

https://tenor.com/view/100-gif-549184224117281305

[dusky burrow]

As for me I'm waiting for my chance to join the Great War

[heavy vigil]

im being wholesome

im getting a squad together

[simple plank]

your to late for that bud the great war was 100 hears ago

[heavy vigil]

me and the gang

[gilded vessel]

just gained 128 troops from puppets

[timber pewter]

How Can I stop my game from crashing?

[gilded vessel]

did you install mods?

[timber pewter]

Only FPS

FPS map

[gilded vessel]

whats the crash message?

[timber pewter]

Let me check

[dusky burrow]

True

[scenic basin]

making kaiser happy

[dusky burrow]

I'm not sure that even at the literal gates of Paris and Brest, Germany could win; they failed to encircle 24 divisions in Sedan, and the whole British army in Paris itself

[scenic basin]

I hanged bad people

[dusky burrow]

And they also have 1 million casualties in November 1914

[simple plank]

eat it

[gilded vessel]

wrong one

[timber pewter]

Which one

[gilded vessel]

it should be in the paradox files

[scenic basin]

Is there shame in using commands

[warped flint]

Is my supply good enough?

[timber pewter]

Is it the logs?

[azure elbow]

bulgaria spotted

[timber pewter]

This one ?

[azure elbow]

maybe build a railway or 2 into lower russia where its red

supply hub as well

[warped flint]

I was thinking that, but I noticed they are really weak, so i don't thin kthat will be nessacary

[azure elbow]

otherwise youre basically doing what russia is doing in real life

running out of supply

[terse ether]

the fps map mod is the wrong version

[azure elbow]

no regard for human life whatsoever

[timber pewter]

So I just update it?

[warped flint]

Yes

they will suffer

I am starving them

[azure elbow]

ure doing proper historical

[timber pewter]

I don't want to lose the save

[warped flint]

Also those are doing exercises

[azure elbow]

what the losses look like?

[terse ether]

probably

[warped flint]

Haven't started the war yet

[terse ether]

you wont lose the save if you disable fps map mod

[warped flint]

i am exercising them to make em more effective

[terse ether]

its a purely visual mod

it changes nothing

[terse ether]

exercising with 0 supply 🔥

[warped flint]

Yes

I am making them work hard

[steady axle]

https://youtu.be/NyjSbtNVXCM?si=hC0KYZ_mDaqlzlo3

[heavy vigil]

its one of those games

[terse ether]

is this modded

whats that eye symbol next to high command

[heavy vigil]

well yeah but no

it has a lot of mods but they dont rlly change anything

besides resources

theres more resources

biggest balance change tbh

oh and licenses are free

[uncut pollen]

I need More iron

I Had -500

[heavy vigil]

need to click agency

[terse ether]

oh

sounds useful

[icy crescent]

Consider changing your Export Law.
And upgrading infrastructure in resource areas.
And excavation tech.

[uncut pollen]

I was the afrikan Union

So yeah

Out of iron4

[icy crescent]

Then really consider it.

[uncut pollen]

I couldnt realy import

All Iron was gone from the other countrys

[scenic basin]

I kinda attacked Soviets with 1 infantry

they are here:

[quick trout]

What is some good advice that you could give me when I wanna do a world conquest as Germany? ( I have rn around 850 hours)

[sudden grotto]

noice

[heavy vigil]

it really is one of those days

[sudden grotto]

Prepare air

[serene token]

Hey

[uncut pollen]

Hello

[serene token]

Also, could I recommend someone to do a mod?

Or well, make?

I'm just curious.

[serene token]

How are you?

[uncut pollen]

Like my Name today was the best day ever

[serene token]

Ooh, why?

[uncut pollen]

I found 50€ ON the ground

[serene token]

Sweet

[uncut pollen]

And its from 2002

[serene token]

Wow

[rose prawn]

rich

[serene token]

So it's worth more?

[uncut pollen]

Its Like an months sallery for me

[rose prawn]

nope afaik

[uncut pollen]

Sadly not

[serene token]

Man, keep it.

[uncut pollen]

But it is cool to have

[rose prawn]

free money so

[uncut pollen]

Or i buy hoi 4 dlc's

[serene token]

Just do a subscription.

[rose prawn]

I think you can buy all dlcs

[serene token]

For a while.

[rose prawn]

with 50 euro

plus the game

[uncut pollen]

Not anymore

[rose prawn]

dang

[serene token]

Gott costs 30 dollars in America.

[rose prawn]

check instant gaming

[uncut pollen]

50€ is Like 2 and a half dlc's

[rose prawn]

sometimes they do sale

[serene token]

I'm doing subscriptions for awhile m

[strong belfry]

gm

[serene token]

I can pay 16.15 for 3 months.

[rose prawn]

I have all of them

forced too

because am a modder

[bright arrow]

Gotterdammerung is 25€

[serene token]

Hey, can I recommend you a mod that you can make if you wanna?

[rose prawn]

I am already part of a big mod

[serene token]

Oh.

[rose prawn]

yes

[serene token]

What mod?

[rose prawn]

austria redone between two giants

1K+ focuses for austria 💪

[serene token]

Yeez

[rose prawn]

we are converting the mod though

into something else

[serene token]

Ooh

[rose prawn]

yes

[rose prawn]

ok

buy stardew valley

best investment you will make

[serene token]

Yes

I love Stardew Valley.

[strong belfry]

MORE DLC

[bright arrow]

50€ is base game alone

[rose prawn]

nvm

[bright arrow]

Hoi4 is so unbelievably expensive lmao

[strong belfry]

fr fr

[bright arrow]

Base game is super undercooked

And its still more expensive than most games on steam

[uncut pollen]

I already have Xbox Gamepass ultimate

So i have it

[bright arrow]

Wait for Autumn sales

You can find fat discounts

I remember seeing Stellaris at 95% discount last Christmas

[serene token]

I actually own the game since like 2021.

Heard the dev is making another update for Stardew, but it will be slow since he isn't over sighting it, if I recall correctly.

[uncut pollen]

Well i never Said i played it so idk

But rn im saving the 50€ untill deltarun is in discount

[serene token]

Ooh.

I'ma get Ultrakill later on this year.

Probably when I get the Steam Deck

[icy crescent]

What was the WorldTension limit for democratic nations to send guarantees?

25%? 20%?

[scenic basin]

When WT is above 25.

[icy crescent]

Roger.

[zenith imp]

25

[scenic basin]

But only if the aggressor has generated 10 WT will they also send garuntees.

Basically, keep your aggression to a minimum at best

[dry kayak]

Ooh, finally we are gonna make it

[gritty tundra]

what will happen if i refused

[bronze mango]

You will lose a bit of political power

[paper echo]

your country will get nuked by gandhi nukes

[bronze mango]

Thats it

[paper echo]

which permanently delete your mils

[dry kayak]

feel like CIV VI

[loud shuttle]

you will get nuked by 10 nukes on every province every hour ingame and also why u playing new zealand

[silk fern]

yunnan will conquer you immediately and you will lose the game

[paper echo]

i swear if hoi4 changes ma bufang portrait on the next dlc

i hope they just modify it similar to adolf portrait on gotterdammerung

[opal kelp]

Nothing at all

[opal kelp]

New Zealand best country. 100% Better than USA, More Mils and Civs than Soviets

[sudden grotto]

Bob sample >>>>> all tanks

[feral lark]

it's one of those games. at war with america, we both have access to italy, and italy and me are at war with russia. so america is just kind of following the front line, taking pot shots

[serene token]

What about Bob Bob's?

[sudden grotto]

Just for that, i would pay 50¢

[heavy vigil]

I love nzl

[heavy vigil]

Nothing

[opal kelp]

Real

[serene token]

I thought that said something else.

[heavy vigil]

what could it possibly say

[fallow grove]

Does one batallion garrison works or the resistance will increase?

[serene token]

A certain political party.

[sudden grotto]

Hell nah...3-4 can go

1 Is Just too low

[proud sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/look-stare-face-mean-bruh-gif-27645430

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-ghost-death-gif-27106641

[icy crescent]

Let's gooo.

Ironically without Lone Wolf.

[ionic crescent]

Wow, i actually had a very fun iran game

Set switzerland and turkey to become fascist

I switched to communist

It was very fun actually

[serene token]

Well.....

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/the-fire-rises-tfr-hoi4-hearts-of-iron-iv-mutt-rises-gif-16872438946886045451

[proud sparrow]

yeah im gonna have to say no to this

considering the group it is

[inland violet]

my brother joined PF

[ionic crescent]

They barely have 3K members lol. Why would anyone join

This discord server has more members than they do

[inland violet]

idek they give you money sometimes and randoms to talk to

[ionic crescent]

Oh noooo

😭

They should use that money to buy dlcs

Lol

[inland violet]

jobs also but its not like other groups or sum were they give you like a free house or wtv

bro they make you wake up at 6:00 to have meetings

[sudden grotto]

Sadge

TFR aint welcomed ig

[steady thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1309146510499254334/1316433699381973073/IMG_0635.gif

[proud sparrow]

considering the entire point of it is modern controversial groups, its kind of hard for it to acceptable here with rule 2

you can of course play it I won't stop you but when all parts of it other than the map itself kinda break rule 2, I can't just let ya post about it yk?

[steady thorn]

I wonder what it was now

[inland violet]

oh just some random group that makes you wake up early

[steady thorn]

Tfr and contovetsy, some usa civil war faction I reckon

[inland violet]

they dont even feed you

[steady thorn]

with billion year contracts?

that one

[inland violet]

my brother joined

[inland violet]

idek

[sudden grotto]

Hollon...thats modenr?

Like

A real thing?

[steady thorn]

I gor no idea

[inland violet]

yes bro

[steady thorn]

can u dm me the name

[inland violet]

its real

[sudden grotto]

Dawg i thought It was Just another schizo mod idea

Welp mb 💔

[proud sparrow]

no its all modern controversial groups

hence why i dont tend to allow screenshots of it in here

bc they're all real people for the most part

[inland violet]

its VERY real but kinda small they wont join a civil war

[sudden grotto]

Dawg i fr thought It was some fictional thing created for the mod ngl

[sudden grotto]

Huh

[proud sparrow]

nope, entirely real, but its popular to a degree hence why I ask people not to post it instead of outright warning them the first time

[sudden grotto]

I shot at my own foot

[inland violet]

3k adults 200 "youths"

[steady thorn]

I see then on tiktok sometimes

with baddd flags

[sudden grotto]

Seems like modern politics to me 🗣️

[inland violet]

they told my brother to make a edit for them kinda cringe

[steady thorn]

The guy knows hes in the mod aswell right

he acknowledged that

[inland violet]

Thomas? oh yeah

i seen him irl b4]

he lives in my state

never spoke to bro tho

[serene token]

What army spirits are the best?

[ruby flame]

is there a way to get 70% civ intel on germany now?

need to watch their focuses

[sudden grotto]

Agency + spies

Infiltrate administattion

• research civilian focus

In the agency tech tree

Put agency in germany

Spies*

[ruby flame]

yeah i did all that, i had the civ intel agency upgrade, invisible ink, and two spies with a 100% intel network

only got me to 30%

[sudden grotto]

Did you do the mission to get the civil intel?

[ruby flame]

yep!

[sudden grotto]

Huh

[ruby flame]

MEFO bills gives a flat -25% reduction to civ intel

all intel, but i care about civ

[bleak mountain]

https://i.imgur.com/rGSmxhN.png

@winter urchin why did you roach out

we were having such a good time

[mild hazel]

I finally did the queen wallis achievement😭 it took me so long cuz I was abysmal in my setup and ended up with a mobilized usa war (slog fest)

[icy crescent]

What was the task?

Don't have Steam open rn.

[mild hazel]

Ascend edward VII to power and subjucate the US, then make wallis the leader of the US (and then release scotland as a puppet for some reason)

[icy crescent]

Gz. :o

[mild hazel]

It was worth it for the insane yap fest description of wallis

Wallington DC for life

[winter urchin]

Y’all wouldn’t stfu and i decided to eat dinner instead

[bleak mountain]

ok

[winter urchin]

Baltic and soviets were roaching over 2 states instead of just giving them when you have a huge front already

[icy crescent]

Essentially everyone should chill a little, yer saying?

[winter urchin]

Yep

France and balkan faction + comintern vs axis

This was in 39 and i was usa with no mil eco to do ww2 yet

[dusky burrow]

Oof this hurts

Oh yes

[ruby flame]

look at this lmao

3 spies with seducer and all the intel boosting agency upgrades

can't even see their past focuses

[dusky burrow]

Uh... oops

[worn coral]

guys

i just got my first nuke

how do i use it

[ruby flame]

• Harry S. Truman, 1945

[limber compass]

How can I have the Ottomans as Turkey?

I don't understand

[craggy trail]

[sharp sierra]

i wish submarines were separate in the peace deal i dont want that dog shit give me more real ships with my points

[ornate marlin]

ah petue petue ah petue petue

[glacial hearth]

What happened?

[analog ivy]

you use the air raid feature

it sucks i liked having a button to spam 500 nukes

[sudden thistle]

bro the ottomans suck in gwr

they have like 11 factories at game start?

comparable to bulgaria

they fell off so much after the 1800s

[dusk heart]

Omsk my beloved

[cerulean orchid]

indian subs go boom

[glad sun]

ah a little help

[craggy trail]

Have you tried reverifying the game's integrity?

[glad sun]

ok

[craggy trail]

It's interesting seeing you here of all places

[glad sun]

i just dont know how to fix it lol

[craggy trail]

Ah well if it doesn't work, you may need to ask for specific help with the tech helpers in #tech-support

[glad sun]

yeh that fixed it

thanks

[craggy trail]

No problem

See you around

[sharp sierra]

what is with this stupid force concentration at minor faction members

[hoary mortar]

they have the power of uh idk, bs i guess

[cerulean orchid]

oh my god

[misty fossil]

real

[cerulean orchid]

holy crap

mfs are losing to the indian navy 😭

[misty fossil]

insane pulls

too bad my favourite naval mod nerfs subs to hell

[cerulean orchid]

ive never used subs like this before

[misty fossil]

you should

[sharp sierra]

with the always engage thing on

you mean?

[misty fossil]

you just discovered cold war submarine tactics

[cerulean orchid]

i couldnt make regular ships bc im india and im not going to make an entire fleet of carriers and stuff

[cerulean orchid]

yes

i legit never knew you could do ts

[sharp sierra]

yea its funny how the ships just get stuck fighting the sub

[cerulean orchid]

i might actually be able to play minor nations now i never did before bc i assumed i wouldnt be able to invade the usa or uk

[misty fossil]

subs are so powerful australia is building its naval battlefleet around the 8 aukus submarines

[cerulean orchid]

my army is complete dogwater but i have a great airforce and sub fleet

[misty fossil]

keep making 0 visibility subs

[cerulean orchid]

are fleet subs any good

[misty fossil]

the lower sub vis you get the better

range is irrelevant if you can get vis as low as you humanly can

[sharp sierra]

the go longer range but worse visibility

whic is stupid for what they require to get

[misty fossil]

how it feels to field hunter killer submarines

[sharp sierra]

too much time to get something thats worse than the thing i can just research normal

[misty fossil]

they expands your interdiction field

range is pretty useful irl because you have a wider a2ad complex

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-navy-navy-gif-22341984

[misty fossil]

like imagine you’re china and your ships are being raided off the coast of vietnam by an australian sub

that means you have to spread your available ships even thinner making each ship more vulnerable

[sharp sierra]

modern soviet ships are so heavily armed and shit

[misty fossil]

https://youtu.be/_7C4UjLEVXY?si=IrBicViaTwnloJ3d

im literally watching this rn as well

[sharp sierra]

is it that one game

[misty fossil]

its insane how a single attack sub can inflict significant damage to a surface task force

[hoary mortar]

RIP

[misty fossil]

sea power yeah

which is why i find it so funny how the people at my uni are campaigning against the aukus deal

the survival of the australian people depends on the submarines

thats like voluntarily not arming yourself with pepper spray because you trust people to not stalk you at night

[hoary mortar]

aah

[hoary mortar]

True lmao

[sharp sierra]

i read some thing that submarines are bout to be worthless stealth wise

[hoary mortar]

Gonna watch this full vid later tho ty

[sharp sierra]

probably some click bait article it was on my phone i dont remember

[misty fossil]

one reason i stopped trusting mainstream news

[sharp sierra]

something about an ai sonar that could detect from really far away

[misty fossil]

they just go with the most clickbaity and ragebaity titles and ruin everything

and for what?

profit?

[hoary mortar]

hell nah

whats the point of that lol, just views and money?

[sharp sierra]

i think i found the exact article lol

https://evidencenetwork.ca/its-over-and-its-bad-news-for-russian-submarines-according-to-the-u-s-navy-the-new-generation-passive-sonar-installed-on-arleigh-burke-destroyers-can-detect-up-to-150-km/

[hoary mortar]

I bet actual people in the military laugh these types of articles lol

also wow lol

[misty fossil]

i remember this thesis i read in high school about a dude complaining about how useless aircraft carriers are, specifically how he mentioned the cost of one nimitz carrier can be used to solve hunger in africa

[hoary mortar]

crazy guy lmao, entirely unrelated but i kinda understand what he means.
But u could use that same logic for anything

[misty fossil]

i mean thats fair but if the us were to invest in africa much of that money might go into the pocket of warlords anyway

plus so much money in the us are going to the elites, maybe they should look into that instead of voluntarily lobotomising the armed forces like the uk did

[sharp sierra]

the hunger in africa thing was always a joke anyways to solve that youd need contraception items everywhere or something not more food

[misty fossil]

anyway this is getting rather political

[hoary mortar]

Fr, so much money is given to starving african nations. But it just gets stolen by warlords and leaders

[misty fossil]

truth

[sharp sierra]

bill gates tried to solve it

[misty fossil]

its the system thats broken

good luck changing that

doesnt help how cia helped ruin it as well

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/bakayo-warzone-chopper-roof-helicopter-gif-16895889

[hoary mortar]

Fr

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/commando-comando-wakali-wood-uganda-warrior-gif-19424297

[hoary mortar]

kinda funny how so many nations ahve been ruined by cia

Anyways im tired gn fellas