hoi4-general

[slim nexus]

Because Spain is gonna do fine

[dusky burrow]

Spain is always doomed

Portugal is fine

[weary estuary]

Portugal has that juicy ahh tungsten fr

[dusky burrow]

Also the player is Portugal

[slim nexus]

Spain is doomed because all the Chads left La madre patria to do devious things in the american continent

[rich nacelle]

Who tf uses small airframes 💀

They can reach like 2 feet.

[slim nexus]

cheap

[rich nacelle]

Eh true

[slim nexus]

and not meant for long range

frontline type shtuff

[rich nacelle]

Although I am used to playing China so not many air hases

[slim nexus]

South America is screwed in the air department too

CAS ain't as effective and the airzones are too big

[slim nexus]

european

[rich nacelle]

Prolly good in Europe where where every nation has 30 air bases

[slim nexus]

The only thing you ain't screwed on by the terrain is the navy

[slim nexus]

very much so

[rich nacelle]

I need to play more Europe tbh

[slim nexus]

navy not too complicated

[slim nexus]

Which nation?

[weary estuary]

Sweden time 💯

[slim nexus]

onl

Sweden big cringe ngl

[rich nacelle]

Italia probably.

[slim nexus]

ragebait

Sweden be like

[rich nacelle]

Maybe the Spanish if I can ever understand that civil war

[slim nexus]

"hooor we are the swedish!" then proceed to swed all over the place

Big cringe

[steel mica]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqCeZpEKPTo Hey guys in 8 minutes it will be the big premiere

[buoyant lodge]

YOOO HITLER KILLED HIMSELF AFTER I TOOK BERLIN

[rich nacelle]

Gg

[buoyant lodge]

i must win the civil war

[steel mica]

YOU SERIOUS

[slim nexus]

If you can stream it I can tell you what to do in VC

The civil war ain't that hard

[steel mica]

NO EFFING WAY

[slim nexus]

I've actually driven that civil war to it's maximum efficiency too

I win the civil war in 1 year max

I would win it even faster if Germany sended tank volunteers

[steel mica]

@dawn steppe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqCeZpEKPTo premiere coming out in 7 minutes get the champagne ready to pop

[slim nexus]

They start off with 3 light tanks, that's enough to roll over the peninsula

[steel mica]

Civil war is all about the economic benefit

you gotta save sum pp to get that juicy total mobilization

if u know what I mean

[ionic crescent]

I need gigamarine templates

[slim nexus]

Marines don't win you naval invasions

Amphibious tanks do

[rich nacelle]

I can’t get on my pc today. Also, not very comfortable doing a VC with someone

[slim nexus]

Why?

You got a feminine voice?

I got a very masculine voice

[weary estuary]

Don’t make it weird dude

[ionic crescent]

For single player

[slim nexus]

Well, no need to do it in VC

[rich nacelle]

Isn’t it like the Soviet one where you rally states but you have to make sure you have higher support like in the Chinese power struggle?

[slim nexus]

You can just talk about it here in the chat

[ionic crescent]

Shouldnt need amphibious eanks

[slim nexus]

Nah nah

[steel mica]

you need those for the civil war

[slim nexus]

I can tell you step by step

[rich nacelle]

I am just not comfortable talking to people I don’t know

[steel mica]

HOW THE FLIP DO YOU GO ACROSS WATER THEN

[rich nacelle]

I also can’t get on today

[slim nexus]

Introvert issue tbh

[rich nacelle]

Onto hoi4

[slim nexus]

But it's very easy

[rich nacelle]

Teach me in chat pls. Or a dm is you so desire.

[slim nexus]

You have to save some political power to take over Catalonia

Do a Primo de Rivera speech anytime you can to speed up the civil war

When you get Catalonia you can get a bit of the state between catalonia and the rest of northern spain that you get

You use that to micro encircle the units in there and unite both fronts

You have to micro a lot the very first month of the game

[slim nexus]

You snake micro to take all the space that you can take over

Then the frontlines will solidify

That's when you gotta do the decisions to plan attacks on certain parts of the country

[flat barn]

guys

[slim nexus]

Then use your african divisions to push and encircle

That's all

[flat barn]

how many battleships to be effective?

[rich nacelle]

Just use subs

[slim nexus]

It's not about how many, it's just about how technologically advanced they are

[flat barn]

3 light cruisers 3 battleships 45 subs rn

[slim nexus]

You can take down Britain's navy with some updated big battleships

I've seen a turk player do that

But nah

[slim nexus]

It's wrong

Let me tell you

[flat barn]

Total portuguese navy

[slim nexus]

The whole point of navy is to control the access to resources through trading

You need a surface navy if you want to do that

You can't just use subs

That's bad advice tbh

Subs ain't even that good

Subs are like deffensive navy units

Just like infantry is in the land

If you want to push, you need tanks and artillery at some point

[ionic crescent]

I wish they made the civil war like, ridiculously easy

like you can win in two months

i dont wanna spent time fighting a civil war

[flat barn]

for once britain might be cooked

[slim nexus]

spend*

[slim nexus]

It's still a easy civil war

[ionic crescent]

thanks i guess

it seems to be slightly more difficult than before got

[slim nexus]

What exactly do you struggle with?

[ionic crescent]

eh

nothing really

i can win just fine

i just want it to go by quick

[slim nexus]

Yeah but can you clock it to the 100%?

to the 120%?

[slim nexus]

But honestly playing as Germany as anything other than Fascist is a big waste of m

nevermind

I was about to say some rambunctious thing

Anyway y'all got any country you suggest playing?

I'm about to hop on Hoi4 or another

[buoyant lodge]

i think we might be winning gng

[slim nexus]

type stuff

[patent thistle]

GET SHAT ON GREECE

[slim nexus]

what is vro doing

[buoyant lodge]

what

[icy crescent]

It was an anticlimactic game, but yay, I guess.

[buoyant lodge]

it's a civil warf

[slim nexus]

best strat for german civil war is splitting then in half

by the check border

[buoyant lodge]

whats a strat lmfao

[slim nexus]

strategy

[near schooner]

how i do make them accept

[slim nexus]

atleast it was at one point

[buoyant lodge]

imagine using sucha weird thing

[buoyant lodge]

99 luftballons

[slim nexus]

bruh

[slim nexus]

rare case of needing to improve relations tbh

[buoyant lodge]

i just win

ngl

[slim nexus]

auf ihrem weg zum horizont...

[buoyant lodge]

uhhh

ufo

[slim nexus]

you talkin alien?

LOL

[near schooner]

max relations

[slim nexus]

German

So earthling alien so to speak

[flat barn]

Massive cluster

[slim nexus]

99 Luftballons is a song by german singer Nena

babushka

another one

Yeah I know some russinans songs too

Tri Poloski

Tri pa tri pa loski

is vro ok

https://tenor.com/view/kalinka-kalinka-russian-drunk-russian-drunk-gif-23982613

holy

Germanic and slavic languages are so cryptic tbh

They don't sound like languages at all

French is almost in that zone

[slim nexus]

english is a germanic language....

Italy is almost a language

Portuguese is weird and Spanish is best

[icy crescent]

What is your motherlanguage/primary language?

[slim nexus]

Yeah but English is second nature at this point

[slim nexus]

Italian, french, spanish and Portugese are from the same family you do realize that

[slim nexus]

ESPAÑOL DE ESPAÑA, SIUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-gif-8185197727299684078

[near schooner]

should i use radar or anothe rtorpedo tube

[slim nexus]

Yeah I know, they are romance languages

[slim nexus]

because its a result of crossbreeding between a germanic and a latin language

[slim nexus]

never radar on sub

Which means those languages are descended from latin which is the imperial language

torpedos all the way

[near schooner]

onda vital🗣️

[slim nexus]

Latin is the language of the civilized, everything else is barbarian babble

[slim nexus]

yk which romanic language is closest to latin

ROMANIAN

[slim nexus]

Occitan?

Romania is weird ngl

[slim nexus]

GREEK:

Greeks are honorary civilized

Just because they ain't that bad compared to everyone else

[slim nexus]

Greek is older than latin

Greek is older than Rome too

It's not about who did it first

But who did it best

Which is the romans

[flat barn]

Italy is managing to fight europe alone

I dont know how

[slim nexus]

some germanic tribes in 9AD in a random ahh forest:

[flat barn]

Their front has been consistent and stable too

[near schooner]

CHINESE?

[slim nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-tom-meme-cartoon-gif-25305784

[icy crescent]

Latin, best language.
Vatican.

[slim nexus]

Latin is still a bit cryptic

if it wasn't for christianity spain would be part of arabia today

Spanish is the only language that ressembles a language tbh

[brittle cypress]

the war situation has not developed in our favor

[near schooner]

wym

[slim nexus]

bro is so patriotic he cannot fathom the idea of anythign being better than spanish

[patent thistle]

OH COME ON GREAT WAR REDUX DEVS

ATLEAST ALLOW SOME FUN

[slim nexus]

Drah di nedt um

[near schooner]

how many languages do yall speak?

[slim nexus]

just don't listen to the rambling of a very patriotic person. logic is not present in their minds

[slim nexus]

GERMAN

Der kommissar geht um oh oh oh

[slim nexus]

GERMAN

I only know Spanish and English

[slim nexus]

German english and french

The only two languages you need to know

[slim nexus]

idc about spanish ong

ok then

[near schooner]

i know spanish english and a little chinese

[slim nexus]

what has spain achieved in the last 200 years

Decay gracefully

[near schooner]

falling into a nationalist dictatorship

[slim nexus]

Any other nation would've splattered in the fall

[slim nexus]

not a flex tbh

[icy crescent]

#off-topic

[slim nexus]

And Spain still has to decay even more

[slim nexus]

mbruh+

It's taking a siesta

[patent thistle]

F YOU I JUST CAPITULATE YOU BEFORE PRESSING IT

[slim nexus]

L Great war redux

normal thing tbh

[near schooner]

spain recieved karma lol

[slim nexus]

Yeah

I agree on that

Good thing is that hispanic american countries got their independence

We can form a new identity born in the future

[patent thistle]

and i still got that bonus, F YOU DEVS I LOVE TO ABUSE YOU

[slim nexus]

You know how USA is England but better?

Hispanic America gon be like that

[slim nexus]

Germany has been regaining Karma since the end of ww2 with how we are basically the global insurance company

somethign broken? call germany, they'll pay for it

[slim nexus]

probably ye

I mean I hear a lot of Germany being efficient and hardworking

[near schooner]

bad thing later most of the countries had military dictatorships

[slim nexus]

not really?

[near schooner]

but nevermind

[slim nexus]

I mean yeah everywhere that isn't bueraucracy

our bueraucracy is so ass

[slim nexus]

It's the natural course

[near schooner]

and stupid people worship the dictators

[slim nexus]

that half our infrastructure is falling appart

[icy crescent]

I mean, it was.
But the last years were kinda bad and kind of broke down a little.

• some political stuff going on.

[slim nexus]

Hispanic america is a disaster that can only be handled by might most of the time

[slim nexus]

El Salvador dicator doing dood stuff

I wish it wasn't that way

But it is that way

[slim nexus]

lets hope they actually fix it this time ong

[near schooner]

im talking about the independence times

[icy crescent]

Gran Columbia irl when?

[slim nexus]

eh true

Nah screw Gran Colombia

[languid patrol]

wish me luck

[slim nexus]

I want a caribbean empire led by Venezuela

All the caribbean islands and guyana

[near schooner]

ENGLISH THIEFS!!!

[patent thistle]

OH COME ON GIVE ME A MOMENT OF PEACE 😭

[slim nexus]

HELL NO

[slim nexus]

I think you mean pirates

English are pirates

Not thiefs

[near schooner]

both

[slim nexus]

what are germans?

[flat barn]

portugal navy game went shit

[icy crescent]

Damn.
Non-historical Balkan Dominance Path? D:

[slim nexus]

Germans are collective hivemind

[flat barn]

navy is so shit unless you start with a big one

[slim nexus]

eh true

[patent thistle]

its great war redux damit-

[icy crescent]

Oh, whoops.
Pls forgive me, Oberkommando Knaxer.

[patent thistle]

i would guess its because i own southern dabruja-?

[slim nexus]

I still hope the Kaiser comes back

one day

[patent thistle]

eitherway, free puppet?

[slim nexus]

Well good luck on that

I don't think we need kings, we need heroes

Prussia best form of Germany

Though they often overlap

[near schooner]

why didnt paradox added focus trees to all south american nations

why only cono sur

[slim nexus]

Because they're the most relevant nations in the continent

[slim nexus]

They're lazy

It's not a controversial opinion

It's jsut true

[icy crescent]

Technically Venezuela was more relevant than Uruguay.
Or Paraguay.

[near schooner]

im sorry but my venezuela did more in ww2 than uruguay

[slim nexus]

imma go play some modded hoi4

Venezuela in HOI4 often goes crazy ngl

hmmm

TFR

[icy crescent]

Have fun.

[slim nexus]

now what country to play as

[patent thistle]

romania. HOW?

[icy crescent]

Modpack or sth light modded?

[slim nexus]

TFR

da heck is TFR?

[icy crescent]

https://tenor.com/GxkP.gif

[slim nexus]

the fire rises

what if 2020 was much much worse

[near schooner]

ZHONGGUO

[icy crescent]

We don't like fire.
Play sth with Snow.

Nordics.

[slim nexus]

Norse you mean

Norse is a lot cooler than nordics

[slim nexus]

Nah I'll be playing TFR USA

though I have to pick which faction because US civil war 2.0

[icy crescent]

What's the point of you asking us then? D:

[slim nexus]

Nordics has no focus trees yet

[icy crescent]

Traitor.

[slim nexus]

Screw it I'm gonna play Bannerlord

france, Germany, USA, Russia, China, Japan

let me see who else

ello

[icy crescent]

Could you show us how the Generic Focustree looks like?

[buoyant lodge]

i lowk lost the civil war

[near schooner]

why paraguay has a city named like philadelphia but in spanish

[slim nexus]

there is none

[slim nexus]

which ine

[buoyant radish]

rate this (using shock troops from rt56)

[buoyant lodge]

german one

[slim nexus]

they didn't make a generic focus tree for whatever reason

[icy crescent]

Damn.

[slim nexus]

oh

[buoyant radish]

ive pretty much perfected this, multi use division

[slim nexus]

skill issue

[dry cove]

fellas

ok so

[icy crescent]

https://tenor.com/r8GqLimFKFw.gif

[dry cove]

im trying to play mp right

[slim nexus]

mhm

[icy crescent]

Needs motorized scout for more speed.

[dry cove]

yet it keeps saying invalid version the version im trying to play with has f6d3

yet i ahve

991e

[slim nexus]

#tech-support

you have to manually clear your game files

tech support pins

[buoyant radish]

motorized recon?

[slim nexus]

soemwhere there is help

[fleet cliff]

anyone down to teach me the game? ;D

[slim nexus]

here'S what you gotta do:

Open file explorer
Go to Documents/Paradox Interactive/Hearts of Iron IV
Move the mod, save games, Screenshots folders, as well as career profile files to somewhere else on the drive. (If these don’t exist or you don't care, ignore this step)
Delete everything in the Hearts of Iron IV folder.
Put all the moved files and folders back in.
Launch the game again.

[buoyant radish]

you super new to the game, or kinda new?

[fleet cliff]

idk much i got 26 hours but uhm i kinda sold the whole game with my friend today as monarchist germany i somehow ended up with some admiral leader kinda pmo bcuz i wanted wilhelm as my leader 😭

[dry cove]

Yeah, I'm forwarding it, and then i'll try it out later thx🌞

[icy crescent]

And another support company.
Because too much org.

[slim nexus]

leave while you still can
once you're in too deep you cannot escape

[icy crescent]

Divisions get a "too much org"-org recharge penalty.

[buoyant radish]

lol, ill show you what to do in my current run if you want, its november 1941

[fleet cliff]

i fw strategy games i got 3150 hours on league vro 😞

[buoyant radish]

never seen that

[slim nexus]

ah

you're lost already then

good for you

[fleet cliff]

im not saying league is similar to the game but having 3150 on league idk lol

quite alot

;D

and yeah hoi4 seems fun af

so

[icy crescent]

The first 50 orgs get recharged normally.
But recharge slows down after it.
Or sth like that.

[slim nexus]

whos gonna tell him

[icy crescent]

60 good.
Over 70 it gets worse.

[buoyant radish]

what is https://discord.com/channels/183787140671471616/1312058664483422269 for?

[slim nexus]

how many DLCs you have?

[buoyant radish]

join https://discord.com/channels/183787140671471616/1312058664483422269

[fleet cliff]

couple 😭

im not sure

[slim nexus]

whatever you do don'T buy graveyard of empires

absolute ass

[slim nexus]

HOI4 DLCs

[buoyant lodge]

why is britain cooking my anvy

[slim nexus]

you basically need most of those for the full experience

[remote quarry]

this focus used to be super op

[slim nexus]

ok so

[remote quarry]

it used to be good

[slim nexus]

you know how you have heavy ships right?

[icy crescent]

You get it relatively late tho, because usually there are higher priorities.

[buoyant lodge]

yes

[remote quarry]

it used to be like 5 civs

[slim nexus]

you need to put 4 light ships for each heavy ship into a fleet

[buoyant lodge]

i have an outdated heavy ship in production

[remote quarry]

now it's completely useless

[slim nexus]

thats not an issue

you just need to produce 4 light ships (destroyers and light cruisers) for each heavy ship

[icy crescent]

I mean, this feels good, I guess.

[remote quarry]

because you have a smaller navy than uk

this is the one and only reaosn

[slim nexus]

they act like a shield so your heavy ships can beat the crap out the enemy

[remote quarry]

fleet composition and whatsoever are irrelevant

[slim nexus]

don't listen to him please

[slim nexus]

its notttt

[buoyant lodge]

alright i'll see if that works

[remote quarry]

by the time you have done this focus you would probably on total mob already

[slim nexus]

remeber to put them into a fleet together too

[buoyant lodge]

do i just select them all and navigate them together?

[slim nexus]

gimme a sec

[remote quarry]

the only thing about navy is that 1. you need to combine all your fleets and 2. you need to invest enough in it to have a larger fleet than your enemy

[slim nexus]

no shut up

don't give them misinformation

[slim nexus]

I'll record something for you give me a sec

my game taking its sweet sweet time

as usual...

[remote quarry]

this is as useful as saying that "10 divides 70 so your width should be a multiple of 10"

[slim nexus]

it actually works tho?

against AI at least

[remote quarry]

it's correct, but practically useless

[slim nexus]

yeah ik

[remote quarry]

you need four screen for one heavy ship, what does it mean?

you build screens?

[slim nexus]

but they are new

[remote quarry]

you don't put heavy ship into the fleet?

[slim nexus]

we gotta keep it simple

[icy crescent]

I guess this is an alright focus.
5 civs (conditional)

[remote quarry]

simple answer is "combine all your fleet and build light cruisers"

[slim nexus]

ah

[remote quarry]

yes this one is good

you need to build two infras to get all 5

[slim nexus]

yeah maybe I'm thinking too complicated

[remote quarry]

it's just a common misconception

like maybe you have read thishttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2943980823

[icy crescent]

^ kicks you out of faction.
(Faction Traitor. Relations -100)

[patent thistle]

i think its time to end albania, they have outlived there purpose.

[wraith mauve]

I need a good mid game infantry template who got me

For italy

[slim nexus]

I did read that ye

[patent thistle]

depends on what you need it for

defense or offense?

[wraith mauve]

Just offense

[patent thistle]

i am not that well into offensive infantry templates, for offensive templates i tend to use marines or mountaineers.

[wraith mauve]

Oh

[broken sky]

feenland

[patent thistle]

let me guess your active wargoal is either the soviets, UK or Germany?

[broken sky]

i am going to take russia and reclaim the title as the true bastion of socialism

[icy crescent]

Red Snow Jumpscare.

[patent thistle]

am i wrong here?

[icy crescent]

Usually they are guaranteed by Italy.
Watch out.

[cerulean orchid]

how did u win against the soviets

[patent thistle]

they are my puppet-

[cerulean orchid]

ive been wanting to play finland for a while but i couldnt beat the soviets

[icy crescent]

Ehrm.
They are guaranteed by you.
Watch out!

[broken sky]

Incredibly focused micro

And the motto tactics focus help if you struggle

[patent thistle]

cursed ottoman navy

[broken sky]

Otherwise... Finland isn't for the faint of heart

[broken sky]

ceddin deden

[patent thistle]

i could totally understand what you just said

[broken sky]

well ic ant

🥵

[patent thistle]

nah press button

[fallow grove]

Can’t devs make that when you reject someone’s offer to join your war they won’t ask again till i call them to war? Is so annoying having all the reichkomissariats asking to join war and sending lend lease

[silk fern]

guantanamo bay just conquered all of cuba

[patent thistle]

YOU MISSED A ISLAND

[broken sky]

purchasing.... boats.... from an.... allied power...................................

[patent thistle]

its the better of the three options

[buoyant lodge]

bist du deustch?

[broken sky]

will use said boat in ww1 afterwards

le troll

[slim nexus]

Warum sollte er Deutsch sein?

[sudden thistle]

wtf is that map

I need it

[patent thistle]

ja bin ich

[buoyant lodge]

i can

smell it

tastes like panzer tanks

wait

my brain is melting

[slim nexus]

dann ist dein Geruchsinn besser als meiner

(then your sense of smell is better than mine)

[patent thistle]

ich glaub ist nen bisschle offensichtlich mit meinen namen

[sudden thistle]

I love how I only know like 2 words of what ur saying lol

[slim nexus]

stimmt, ich vergesse manchmal das ich lesen kann

[patent thistle]

typisches hoi4 spieler symptom

[slim nexus]

He said "Its a bit obvious with my username"

[slim nexus]

my response was "right, I sometimes forget that I can read"

[slim nexus]

shit bro

[rich sand]

i just got my ass beaten by the allies, it was my first ever major war

[patent thistle]

"typical hoi4 player"

[slim nexus]

actual insanity

[slim nexus]

ouch

what time zone buddy?

maybe we can MP tmr or next week?

[rich sand]

i invested hours into the campaign and now i just saw a reddit post saying "you declare war on the lowlands first, that way you can bypass the maginot line"

[rich sand]

no time

sorry

[slim nexus]

ah

[rich sand]

i have school

[slim nexus]

same

[patent thistle]

well f you then guess i just use annex here. -_- the great war redux devs really dont allow ANY fun

[slim nexus]

show division template

[rich sand]

i just got off my pc, I'm about to go to sleep now

I'll do it later (if i don't forget)

[slim nexus]

what time is it for you?

1:30am for me

[rich sand]

but if i remember correctly it was 21 infantry then 2 artillery

then some engineerz

[rich sand]

like 7:30am

[slim nexus]

21 infantry?

[rich sand]

yea

[slim nexus]

too chunky i think

[rich sand]

then what do you recommend

[slim nexus]

though I am out of the meta loop

ask topazand

he prob knows

[remote quarry]

yeah, lots of misinformation

[slim nexus]

crazy

[rich sand]

i thoughtbit was op at first then i got my ass whooped by somebody that irl germany took in just a matter of days

[remote quarry]

you can go through maginot if you like

[rich sand]

isn't it hard

[remote quarry]

the thing is that template never really matter, especially when you lose

it's always the other reasons

[rich sand]

if i gain more exp maybe I'll do it but rn i still have no idea of each interface do

[slim nexus]

this any good?

[remote quarry]

just keep using your starting infantry template

[remote quarry]

no

[slim nexus]

what to change?

[remote quarry]

don't make destroyers

[rich sand]

I'm still learning

this is my first ever campaign

was

[slim nexus]

I like to be historical

thats why

so is that a good destroyer design?

[remote quarry]

well yeah at first the important thing is to learn clicking the buttons

[slim nexus]

or not?

[rich sand]

no artilleries?

[remote quarry]

there's no good destroyer design because destroyer is bad

if you want the least bad design keep it empty

[slim nexus]

did you produce enough artilery?

[remote quarry]

support artillrry

only

[rich sand]

oh

[slim nexus]

this any good?

[rich sand]

i put lile 2 artilleries on my templage

[sinful pond]

dum dum here

[rich sand]

that's probably yje reason whh

[rich sand]

well i jjst literally started playing this game hours ago

[remote quarry]

replace the anti air with turrets then it's fine

[sinful pond]

oh

[slim nexus]

also did you produce enough of everything

[remote quarry]

idk why your design always have maxed out everything

[sinful pond]

do you know history at all?

[slim nexus]

and did you have air supiriority

[rich sand]

i did build a lot of civ and mil factory so i did produce a lot of everything

[sinful pond]

he probably doesn’t have good planes so nah

[remote quarry]

you can, it just doesn't help you

[slim nexus]

how bout this?

[remote quarry]

and you need to produce more artillrry

[rich sand]

not much just the basic ones

[remote quarry]

heavy cruiser is another bad ship type

[sinful pond]

you got dlcs yet or no?

[slim nexus]

got it

BB or BAttlecruiser?

[remote quarry]

the only thing you need to build are guns, and planes, mainly fighters

[rich sand]

the subscription, trying tp see if it's worth to buy

[sinful pond]

best way to go

[remote quarry]

it's enough to go through benelux

[rich sand]

ah alright

[remote quarry]

BC is the third one

build BB or SHBB

[slim nexus]

it works against AI and because I have no friends all I play against is AI

[slim nexus]

?

[remote quarry]

yeah this is good

[slim nexus]

too much AA?

[remote quarry]

against ai you can replace aa with secondary

since you won't need aa value

[slim nexus]

so basically light cruisers and BB

what about carriers?

[remote quarry]

or only light cruiser

it's good if you can get them

[patent thistle]

i tend to prefer BCs due to them being a little faster and costing a little less

[rich sand]

this is by far the most complicated grand strag I've played 🫩

[slim nexus]

don't play vic 3 then

[rich sand]

I've played that

[slim nexus]

ECONOMY SIMULATOR

[rich sand]

it's easier than this definitely

mainly because hoi4 you have so much to look at

[slim nexus]

yeeeeeee

HOI4 good for my chronically bored mind

always new stuff every game can be different

[sudden thistle]

True

I have 3000 hours and there is still more to do

[slim nexus]

there is always more to do

[umbral agate]

is going for hess before todt an alright idea?

for the research speed

earlier

[daring tundra]

Big ships are fun to build

I don't care they aren't optimal

I will build superheavy battleships that take 2 years to build

[remote quarry]

armor is everything

[remote quarry]

shbb is optimal

[daring tundra]

Big cannons that delete the enemy's fleet are fun

[dusky burrow]

Well at least Albania's still your puppet

Or you can let it go free and maybe declare war on it later?

[bronze mango]

What if the post great war treaties were fair?

[dusky burrow]

Funny imagining a Czechoslovakia that controls both Vienna and Budapest

[bronze mango]

It actually doesn't

Fully atleast

It has half of budapest

[brittle cypress]

im not so sure that hungary and germany are fair

or that bulgaria

[bronze mango]

Not fair enough?

[brittle cypress]

a little too fair, maybe

[bronze mango]

I wouldn't really know how much fairer I could make germany, maybe splitting it into separate kingdoms? But then it no longer fulfils my trianon parody

[dusky burrow]

Americans can't have anything 😡

[slim nexus]

I hope both sides of your pillow are warm

I hope you'll stub your toe the next time you walk by something

[bronze mango]

Fine ill make them fairer the other way around

[slim nexus]

I do hope both sides of your pillow are cool

Ok chat this is weird

?

There's a infantry weapons in Spain that gives +%5 max speed to infantry equipment

[slim nexus]

LOL

Does that means that my infantry will be faster?

probably

[sinful pond]

nah the guns shoot faster trust

[bronze mango]

Bruh why are there so many scam things here

[rose prawn]

Belguim wanted this at ww1

But they also wanted to annex dutch lands

Because they thought dutch collaborated with germany

Ans therefore must be finished

They wanted Zealand and limburg

[bronze mango]

Most borders are actually based of of real proposals, others are just for the sake of "fairness"

[patent thistle]

italy would garantie then, great war redux is really one of the few mods i gladly dont do ironman for shit like this so i can say annex still puppets

[rose prawn]

Nice try

@proud sparrow

Please

[craggy trail]

<@&846894118219022336>

[rose prawn]

Nuke him

[rose prawn]

Bakker Schut propaganda was really uhh

Bad

"DUTCH PEOPLE WANT GERMAN LAND WITHOUT GERMANS"

[hollow pulsar]

You're welcome

[rose prawn]

Thank uu

[patent thistle]

execution?

[bronze mango]

I am making an opposite version currently to appease people like you

[rose prawn]

What stopped UK from reannexing ireland

[bronze mango]

Like they won historically too and still lost Ireland also the map is focused on the 4 treaties

[rose prawn]

Is that a mod or

Vanilla hoi4 tree

No tree

I mean

[bronze mango]

Oh the trees are normal hoi5 but ofcourse I have all sorts of mods just for mapping

[rose prawn]

Seems like a mod too yeah I noticed it from munster and oldenburg

[bronze mango]

The mod for the states is pulchritudinous states

[rose prawn]

Gotta check it out then

What about for america

And

Asia and africa

[bronze mango]

Everywhere has too many states

[rose prawn]

I mean as treaties lol

[bronze mango]

They wouldn't be any different

[slim nexus]

What bro did?

Bad stuff?

[rose prawn]

Scam ad

[slim nexus]

God dammit

[bronze mango]

Why does this server have all of these scam ads?

This is the only server I see it on

[rose prawn]

Because its a picture

Its not a link afaik

[bronze mango]

No I mean I dont see any scam ads on any other servers, I know that it's a picture it sent

[rose prawn]

I think this is a organised thing because I also got it thourgh my dms

Once

Its like "sorry I accidently reported you" scam tactic

[ripe slate]

Classic Steam scam

[rose prawn]

Weren't they forced to keep British Monarchs at their constitution until the Edward

Sorry for late response though just to clarify

[bronze mango]

Regardless that wouldn't be something that would affect the map about the 5 treaties

[rose prawn]

Yeh

[patent thistle]

HELL YEAH I DIDNT GET SCAMMED OUT OF MY 2 SHIPS

welp that has become expected given i murdered serbia

[rose prawn]

So that means

No ww2

[bronze mango]

Like given all five of those countries were decimated in that map, yes, atleast not in the same form as historically

[rose prawn]

Beside Japan and USSR

[rose prawn]

I think it would be regional

Possibly Japan vs China again
And Soviets vs Poland

[bronze mango]

The japan war would probably develop like historically

[rose prawn]

Imagine playing germany if this was a real mod

Itd be somewhat fun lol

[bronze mango]

Unlike hungary which i double trianoned'

[rose prawn]

-9999 missed calls from mountain general

Netherlands would be fun too
They'd have full resources to bully belgium

Also belgium would collapse under 1 sec here

[umbral agate]

is danzig for slovakia bad ?

cuz i think you get more from danzig

but it isnt a core

[bronze mango]

You gain cores on danzig

[near schooner]

TFR>TNO?

[bronze mango]

Tfr is by far better

[cerulean orchid]

crazy that you can just annex and core romania as democratic kingdom hungary and also core sweden

[bronze mango]

By popular demand: What if the central powers won ww1 by losing ww1 aka, what if the entente felt sorry for the central powers after the war

[bronze mango]

Your wish is my command

This might be one of the dumbest things I've mapped out

[cerulean orchid]

what if china let taiwan back on the chinese mainland aah

[hearty nacelle]

hello

[bronze mango]

Hello

[hearty nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/ilia-topuria-ilia-topuria-ilia-topuria-rose-ufc-gif-2982087246329265940

[bronze mango]

If you look closely at the entente countries you can see that most of them are demilitirised,to represent revolt, this is a subtle reference to the fact that if your government intentionally crippled itself after a war you won the people wouldn't be happy

[distant knoll]

Is there a mod which lets you switch nations mod multiplayer game

[bright sinew]

guise i want to suffer

whats the worst nation to play vanilla

[bronze mango]

Bhutan

I'd say

[bright sinew]

eh

whats sweden like

[cerulean orchid]

no manpower

literally i formed the nordic union and i still was having manpower issues

[sudden falcon]

anyway to access an old version of tgwr?

[warped flint]

Should i just sit here and try to let germany exhaust themeself? they have suffered nearly 150K casualties in only like 2 weeks.

[bronze mango]

There is the pre götterdämmerung one still on the workshop

[sudden falcon]

where?

[bronze mango]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1946557392

[sudden falcon]

thanks

[sudden falcon]

ruh roh

[bronze mango]

Oof

[serene token]

Hmm

[vapid bough]

the almighty wehrmacht is on a permanent vacation

[uncut heath]

Yes

[uncut heath]

Tsingtau is like german version of hong kong

[cerulean orchid]

bro wtf is going on in iberia

[serene token]

A party

[vapid bough]

Hitler still has a sub, a cruiser, and a destroyer
imagine if he tries to sail back

he still has a guarantee from Japan

[dusky burrow]

You should probably take a look into your attrition problem

[dusky burrow]

Normal things

[vapid bough]

Yugoslavia won the war but managed to lose land

Bulgaria got Macedonia and just ran with it while Montenegro got puppeted
I might give them Istria to balance it

[warped flint]

I did a focus, which i thought just gave me a war goal, but it actually declared on them, and i was doing exercises, so many units were still exercising when i was doing this

[dusky burrow]

Happens

Basically in creating Montenegro and expanding Bulgaria it makes Yugoslavia de-own those lands

[glacial hearth]

Yes

[warped flint]

Germany pushed me after breaking through int he south

then poland capped, and all my units got encircled when that happend

[glacial hearth]

Wow

Germany always losing no matter what they do

[astral sentinel]

okay so this is the first time ive really played the game with the music and i had no idea the soundtrack was so good

[serene token]

My mother freaking eyes.

[rustic turtle]

i just got a level 9 general and a level 8 by encircling so many soviet divisions ,but they got only 3 mil casualties from me💀 and i wasnt even trying to get high level generals, this is my first time getting someone to level 12 attack and 7 for the other stats

[serene token]

I supported their uprising, for this.

[rustic turtle]

somehow they will still win in 1943

[serene token]

You may be correct.

Ngl, playing as America is boring.

[mellow falcon]

sit back for 2 hours have a division so strong you cap germany and japan in 10 minutes

[serene token]

Fair.

[cerulean orchid]

average soviet civil war bruh

the ai gets like 2 states and gets stuck in an endless civil war

S S S R

[serene token]

Eh

[mellow falcon]

thats even worse cause then nobody has supplies

[serene token]

They are pushing.

[mellow falcon]

atleast ukraine has good supply ails

anyways im looking for someone to 1v1 me sov vs germany I can be either

[serene token]

Spain still looks like hell.

[wraith mauve]

Can somone give me a mod that makes the map look cooler (ive already looked on YouTube)

Nvm

[feral tiger]

Hi, does anyone know how to do the following in the Iron Curtain mod? It asks for more civil than 9. Can it be used for projects like launching a satellite into space? Thanks.

[serene token]

I need a good light tank template until I can actually get good tanks.

[cerulean orchid]

js dont use light tanks

use medium tanks or dont use tanks

use those mils to make cas instead

[viscid badger]

how many hours you got?

[mellow falcon]

2.4k

[viscid badger]

ah nice i got 2.5k

[dreamy zephyr]

@regal river i cant join bac

it wont let me

i got disconnected

[cerulean orchid]

huh

[dreamy zephyr]

im usa

[cerulean orchid]

where is vichy france

[mellow falcon]

Liar

[viscid badger]

nah lmao

i've played since waking the tiger came out

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/stands-online-gif-21404429

[serene token]

CAS as in strategic bombers?

[viscid badger]

?

[cerulean orchid]

close air support

[serene token]

So tactical bombers.

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/weezer-fred-oh-my-gammit-it's-gif-16193337413509075125

[dreamy zephyr]

@gaunt pawn yea im tryna join

i dont have a mic

[viscid badger]

hoi4 players try to be have a normal conversation challenge (impossible)

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/diddy-blud-diddy-gif-16820390887287528746

[dreamy zephyr]

@gaunt pawn game id

can you steam it

[dreamy zephyr]

yea

i can play south africa

@gaunt pawn what mod is it

[crisp wyvern]

before

after

kaiserreich but what if austria-hungary was ten times more powerful

[cerulean orchid]

dam axis cooking this game

[crisp wyvern]

i created the central powers again, invaded communist yugoslavia, smoked the soviets with germany, and just created kaiserreich in vanilla

that screenshot of yours is just wolfenstein in a nutshell

when the german invasion of america?

[analog ivy]

what map mod is that why do the colours look so good

idk why i replied to such an old post

[sharp sierra]

it just looks vanilla

[formal flicker]

@rough copper

UNDEAFEN

[sudden falcon]

what hoi4 version do i have to use

[near schooner]

tno map mod

[brittle cypress]

least scuffed alt hist mp game

[cerulean orchid]

holy amerikabomber type shi

[misty fossil]

has anyone ever looked at this

[brittle cypress]

Yes

[misty fossil]

im wondering how having -55% carrier stacking would affect the carriers

wait what am i sayin

[rocky mist]

are carriers even worth it?

[misty fossil]

wronf ping wtf

oh my god

@rocky mist you tell me

[rocky mist]

yes?

[misty fossil]

yup

[rocky mist]

how expensive is the average carrier tho?

[misty fossil]

make it as expensive as you can

[rocky mist]

ok

honestly

i think with my cruisers I still fend off planes

[misty fossil]

wrong

[rocky mist]

but im fighting germany

[misty fossil]

https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Naval_battle#Sortie_efficiency

[rocky mist]

soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[misty fossil]

just to show how utterly powerful CVs are

[rocky mist]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1375305562908004362/1408645599963644087/crackbert2joint.gif

[cerulean orchid]

brasil

ts ratio is crazy

[worthy hound]

Encirclement

[heavy vigil]

Woah

[misty fossil]

they went to brazil

[misty fossil]

hello

you really should play vnr

[heavy vigil]

ive heard of it yeah

But deathstack...

[cerulean orchid]

holy

[misty fossil]

what is the point of deathstacks when the enemy keeps running away

[heavy vigil]

Deathstack supremacy

[misty fossil]

at least in vnr you actually get cash money out of a properly organised fleet

[misty fossil]

0 available manpowr
scraping the barrel

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1356061197052674178/1414159924375846912/FEBD82B4-7F73-4692-9956-1E626CF9F29A.gif

[hoary mortar]

real

[misty fossil]

is there a way to prevent multiple task forces from joining the same battle?

[silk fern]

march 1940

https://tenor.com/view/scream-love-poland-gif-10918710646251769391

[misty fossil]

poland can into germany

[misty fossil]

ur legally obligated to play vnr now

do not resist

[heavy vigil]

Ill do it later i guess....

[misty fossil]

i wholeheartedly recommend that you play it

[cerulean orchid]

oops

[misty fossil]

whats the best air doctrine for fighter supremacy and naval attack/carrier naval attack?

[silk fern]

germany got the most useless allies ever

[serene inlet]

soviet union's industry need to be buffed heavily

historically it was depicted as way bigger than in the game

[quiet vessel]

https://youtube.com/shorts/nqoBBIrQVZw?si=zOBLjnVuOSKxJxgH

[steel summit]

Petition to make this a sticker as a response to bordergore

[steel summit]

Germany w only 100 div?

[vapid bough]

we did it boys, we have saved europe!!!!!!!
(ignore the random denmark still being german)

(also ignore purple germany)

[silk fern]

its 1941 i dont know what they have been doing

[vapid bough]

this is 1944 german economy, italy has more civs than them

also they probably have like 10 free civs with that amount of mils and consumer goods

[fallen vigil]

its good but not amazing

[rich sand]

hundreds of losses through attrition 🫩

[silk fern]

is turkey stupid?

[fallow grove]

??????????

[fallen vigil]

guys im playing as monarchist germany and i want the girl right but the netherlands allowed wilhelm the II to come back, does force crashing the game using task manager change the netherlands decesion??

[silk fern]

depends on if ironman is on

[fallen vigil]

its on

[silk fern]

no

[fallow grove]

Wait a few years and Wilhelm will die i think

[faint void]

you can send wihelm on the hindenburg and the hindenburg will crash

[analog ivy]

that would mean an entire industry rework and every countries will have to have more factories to balance the game

otherwise the ussr would be even more OP then it already is

[fallen vigil]

God what are the odds wilhelm is denied entry to germany???

[tiny iris]

Guys, how tf do I beat the USA as Mexico?

[tiny iris]

Well, if you delete your military they'll reject you.

But otherwise, you're fine.

[weary estuary]

Get them to have a civil war if you are fascist or communist by influencing public opinion on them. Stage the coup then stab the coup nation in the back. Once you’ve taken over their states, you’ll have an easier time taking over what remains of the US

[tiny iris]

Ok, thanks.

[heavy vigil]

Guys

I need to play more new zealand

Some guy on reddit has 900+ hours on it...

[weary estuary]

Reddit

[heavy vigil]

Nah but

100-200+ hours on any minor nation and youre like one of the top players

Any singular*

[silk fern]

turks got their homeland back

[clear dagger]

thats almost as much as my 1000+ hours as luxembourg

[zenith charm]

depressing

what is this sad industry count

[weary estuary]

I should be an expert on the nordics by now according to that logic yet the gameplay always finds ways to surprise me

Skill issue I guess

[heavy vigil]

nordics

ah

so thats multiple combined

[weary estuary]

Take your pick between Norway Sweden or Denmark

Sweden is favorite

[heavy vigil]

they all play differently lol

[weary estuary]

All of those sweet resources

I was looking up formable nations and nation tags

There are way way more than I thought there would be

[copper cobalt]

But denmark gets cores on uk

very cool

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[tiny iris]

Guys, I just capitulated Yoguslavia as Italy. Should I puppet it or annex it?

[heavy vigil]

AMNEX

ANNEX*

[tiny iris]

Alrighty. Thanks.

[heavy vigil]

Puppeting is bad

I mean its pretty good as fascist cuz you get most mils

But

Its just bad

Their manpower pool sucks

Your eco sucks

You want the eco

[tiny iris]

Ok, thank you. Bitt3rsteel seems to love puppeting. I should really stop taking his advice.

[heavy vigil]

You can puppet as fascist nations

If you want to

Just needs to be kommisarisat/japanese puppet levels

So you get 65% or 75% of mils

The yugo decisions give you a too low level

And if you want civs (which italy does) you dont puppet since puppets never give a lot

Communists have liberated workers occupation law so you annex

Same for democracies who also get terrible puppets

As non aligned you dont get good puppets and dont get good occupation

So if you have manpower, annex, if you dont, bad puppets

Integrated puppet is fine and collab government is fine

[drifting kiln]

hi casey

[tiny iris]

Ok, I'll keep your advice in mind.

[heavy vigil]

Hi elm whats up

[tiny iris]

But I lost 100k troops to Romania. Is that bad?

[drifting kiln]

thy sky

[drifting kiln]

who are you playing as?

[tiny iris]

Italy

[drifting kiln]

nah not too bad but italy doesnt have that much manpower

[tiny iris]

Ok. I feel like I suck at the game whenever I reach 100k casulties.

[drifting kiln]

probably becasue you do but its ok you will get better

romania is also hard to push in depending on which border bc of barriers and shit supply

[tiny iris]

I have over 300 hours on the game tho

[heavy vigil]

If you push carefully youll always be fine

Take it one battle at a time

[tiny iris]

yeah, supply was an issue.

[drifting kiln]

bro thats not alot of time

[heavy vigil]

When you reach consistent results in battles you start multiple

[tiny iris]

Ok. I'll improve. That's the only thing you can do.

[tiny iris]

I guess not. I'll get better.

[drifting kiln]

the only place you can go from being terrible at the game is being a little bit less terrible

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/the-hand-hoi4-hearts-of-iron-yugoslavia-gif-27522001

[tropic laurel]

i havent played road to 56 for weeks and i didnt knew the china update was released

blue china jumpscare

[tiny iris]

Omfg.

[tropic laurel]

this is
uhh
a lot

what should i do

[tiny iris]

I just wanted to take Turkey.

[atomic grove]

u should just declare on bulgaria, greece, and turkey all at the same time to avoid guarantees

thats if u want to conquer all of the balkans

(u get romania, yugoslavia, and albania for free)

[leaden quartz]

didnt expect a super faction to pop up

[gentle briar]

crazy stats

[drifting kiln]

dam this looks good

is there a ccp update too?

[uncut pollen]

road to 56?

[leaden quartz]

the first time ive ever formed anything related to rome

[uncut pollen]

what happend to turkey?

[leaden quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-west-kanye-ye-shrug-meme-gif-5673972712848832740

[drifting kiln]

belgica formable is lowkey annoying bc of the fact that germany will steal all your land most of the time

you gotta invade france before ww2 starts

[uncut pollen]

and why is china there😭

[leaden quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-west-kanye-ye-shrug-meme-gif-5673972712848832740

[leaden quartz]

yeah this is my 3rd run i decided to js full rush france while being in the axis and then rush germ

[tropic laurel]

yeah

[uncut pollen]

nice

im gonna play it now

[leaden quartz]

but i got kinda luckey bc the czechs invaded germany

[tropic laurel]

i did a ccp run once
i think this is different

[drifting kiln]

nah im pretty sure its still the same

ccp isnt fun in rt56 still because u cant invade everyone easily like in vanilla

and u have to wait until like 1944 or 45 to be strong

[tropic laurel]

well ma clique was certanly updated
(no more xibidi san ma )