#hoi4-general
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Was Discord down?
love the progress on china!!! finally
second largest ww2 theatre gets ignored until now
how long has it been, 6-7 years?
uhhh guys
@trim pike we lost so bad bruh
no the main controller fumbled
we carried
ALRIGHT BUDDY
he gave up once barb started
JA JA JA JA
Thats it im stationing you in greece
worst fate than death
Why did you give all of the Soviet Union to Turkey
i didnt
Why is it like that then
idk we got bored
whats the best combat width for mountaineers? in mp
32
in mp it is 32 aswell?
I'm pretty sure yeah
The mountains don't change based off of whether it is sp or mp
Unless you're playing a mod
Im losing it
Hai
do all the focuses that give mils, make another template that's a copy of the default but add 4 artillery, make 2 use them to break Bulgaria's front, take the two tiles next to turkey from Bulgaria, puppet the rest, put like 6 unit with forts on the small front with Romania and put the rest on the border with turkey and just encircle their units in east Thrace repeatedly, and make more units before the war
Just make mountaineers
mountaineers, shmountaineers
Tbh for an early Bulgaria war 9/4s might be worth it since you don't yet have guns 2
But early game Bulgaria is a pushover
By the Turkey war you probably have guns 2
You can get Gun 2 in time for Bulgaria, its just a question of how many you will actually have
erm.. why is communist italy sending fascist spain volunteers?
Enough I assume, not like they have an army to stop you
I'm having trouble initiating my naval invasion
Neuilly-sur-Seine does a number on them
Greece gets a 100% bonus for inf equipment third focus in its army tree
why is UKRAINE the one declaring war on the soviet union
So if you rush guns, you can probably get Gun 2 in late 37 or early 38
always the same silly shit here
I mean coincidentally that's also when most of your factories are coming online
They're supporting the Provisional Russian Government
Which can either accept their (temporary) independence or wage war on them
chechen just commited suicide ๐ญ
declared war while encircled
oh
i stand corrected
Does it look like the Soviets have spare troops?
Yeah this tends to happen
100%
And then the Soviets clamp down
I pray that they are making navel invasions easier this dlc.
whats hard about them now
what the
I don't understand them.
good thing i put that black bar on my profile
I got all green on the sea zones, I selected the ports to launch and invade.
yea
But they are not launching.
are there divisions assigned to the orders
When I click on the navel invasion deal, it has 10 units selected.
damn right lmao
anyways gn cya all
Nice
didnt know thats an achievement
yea i remember it being a little finnicky when i first started but i dont know what ur issue could be without seeing ur game
finally got it
yeah that looks fun
Is it super flimicy in the base without any dlc's?
no idea i never played without dlcs
They're making them harder
๐
figure out what tomorro
I'm playing Buckshot Roulette then.
in real life
shot roulette, one is vodka, 7 are water
Gosh, I just feel stupid.
relax
Like almost 100 hours, and this is my first time attempting to do navel invasions, and I just don't get it, lol.
I am, I'm just drained.
Typed a 3 page essay all in a few hours.
usually people will do like 2 units per arrow
theyre not that hard
dont know if thats anything to do with youre issue but i cant see your game so
your
what do u not understand
whats your issue corrupted man
blood meridian profile ahh ๐
๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
why every single time i have a save on the cloud it gets corrupted?
this tbh
They are just not launching.
you have to wait to them to prepare
Maybe that was the problem, but it shouldn't take 2 in-game months, right?
do you have naval supremacy
1 division takes 7 days to prepare
assign every division a different naval invasion
i mean
Yea, all zones have navel supremacy.
do you have transport ships researched?
can you provide a screenshot
Can't rn, I logged out of the game and my laptop is charging.
Plus, the country joined a major faction, so I decided to load a save.
Anyone tryna play some millennium dawn?
hello yalls
I did some mining off camera
im germany btw rommal actually did something
uh did i go too far
my entire airforce vs 16 spitfires
The Fire Rises is one of the most schizo mods I ever played
Everyone in 2020 suddenly loses all sanity and self-preservation
alr
Ultra high reinforce rate and AA hit chance is absolute pain
I had Chicago encircled for a year and I couldn't break it
alr
My federal government game went much faster though
alr
this will be good
i did test out the Red dusk mod aswell as USA
good indsutry minor nations without needing to expand that much?
Red Dusk is a solid 9/10 mod
yeah same
havent played HOI4 for quite some time now
im using those exact same mods
remind me what the tank and air mods are again? forgot the name
vnr is so damn goated i genuinely enjoy it
does eaw have a mod that makes the ai spam ships
I found it from this collection
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3466418188
thank you thats what im using
It does feel weird having all these extra slots though
Armored Car designer
Some of my friends were joking about adding the Better Laws/Policies mod together with better mechanics: production
I gotta practice my Germany I was playing an MP game and barb turned into like Ww1 trench warfare and bumper cars
Didnโt make enough cas
And barely supply in half the areas
idk about you but i like them numbers
How did you get that ship blueprint
no way i could handle allat tbh
I use the Italy ship designer from this mod collection
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2908523689
im not sweating hard enough to deal with tryhard ais
you should install vanilla navy rewoek
US and Japan have flushed out ship blueprints
you wont regret it
๐
i might try that
Does bm increase ic for equipment
No particular clue at all
if i can build enough ships than i completely dominate
i figured out a while back that carriers are key if you use them right
I don't exaclty know the actual mechanics for that mod
i tried black ice once and i got folded by the army and i completely desimated the british navy after a few runs to get a feel for the designer
i dont brush my teeth
marshall lawford๐ญ your back๐ญ ๐ญ ๐ญ havent seen you in a while
?
dont you remember me erdemiepmiep
this is EXACTLY why you annex lithuania asap
what are libyan troops doing in kรถnigsbergโ๏ธ
did you know tanks are just mechanized artillery but with armor
oohlala
there crazy useless two only light tanks are good there cheap have good fire power if you aim them on the fire power and there fast shoot and scoot is the best tactic believe me slow heavy tanks are like sitting ducks screaming to be shot at
might try it on my next mp game
make sure to put evrything into fire power and keep it as cheap as possible
mix in a logistics company there gonna use alot of fuel
logistics reduce fuel?
if i can take this out quick i might be able to defend poland
im honestly so impressed youโre winning against sheepโs germany
as poland
wide croatia
bruh i just gave you all the baltics plus half my country what do you want now
your soul ig
its compatible with vnr?
Britain can
Idk probably not. EU is decidedly a democratic formable lol
you can as fascist uk and democratic germany doing a civil war to flip to fascist
Oh you meant it like that
Then Italy can go commie core Africa and then EU via civil war to flip democratic iirc
wha
Yup
fair
communist italy can core all of africa?
Yup
WHAT
this is a test my friend did, idk how it works
are 40w good for czechoslovak
nobody uses 40w
why not
simply doesnt fit in plains tiles
plains are 70w so 2 40w divs suffer pretty bad pnelaties
penalties
36w is perfect
i see
you only get a -2%
can i use it to defend?
no
never use 36w to defend
you run the risk of reinforce memed
by that i mean your division stack gets pushed out before reserve divisions can replace frontline divs
for line inf you go with 16w, 8 inf battalions
and kiss that line arty goodbye
why does this happen
each month all reserve divisions have a % chance of reinforcing a fighting div
EACH MONTH?
if all fighting divs are pushed out before reserve divs have a chance to come towards a front line
i think its each day
idk
ts crazy
doesnt matter
but you get the point
the higher chance of at least one to reinforce?
ok i will adopt this theory
hence you want 16w and not 18, not 20, not 21, not 36
but why no line arty
lower hp, lower org, lower attack per cw than line if
inf
lower hp = more casualties and equipment losses
lower org = more likely to be reinforce memed
support or line
huh
yes
okay
line arty can be quite expensive from my experience
some examples for offensive tanks
(dont put mot. AT but rather replace it with a heavy tank for breakthrough stat boost)
what mod adds this
replace mechanised with amtracs and go down the marines and mountaineer tree to get that 20% special forces attack
thats equestria at war which is a total conversion mod. does not affect combat system
same thing as vanilla
umm waht about the added support slots
thats not vanilla
i would pick these companies
dont play with sheeps ai if ur new
if ur not why are you asking this
because im not good at the game....
then why are you playing sheeps mod
because vanilla is too easy
oh and doctrine its always either gbp left for anything and mass mob right for inf meatwall
without meta'ing
true
ive lost every single fight ive had with sheeps ai
as soviets twice, finland thrice, austria once
go figure
i thought the winter war starts in winter
Question: What in gods name is that grind. And what in gods name are these stats
Also u dont have reserves then of course u get pushed off
i used console to get all those traits
Thats not getting memed, you dont have anything to defend
only wanted to see how much i can jack those numbers up
Technically if u have infinite generals and infinite cp, u can get infinite stats
I saw one dude get 600k soft
Oh no what my dude did is he swapped generals and kept clicking force attack.
So u can stack it infinitely
my one polish tank on their way to cap the germans in a week because 20 generals told him to attack
YES 
im gonna do this, find out it doesnt work, cry because i spent 2 hours on this run, try again because it must be a bug, rinse and repeat
Hi creep
moin
The UK is op asf
i am retreating my words
they single handedly knocked italy in a cw without american help
ironman mode btw
im in kamchatka
I see, that what about ur manpower though
wait does "topple government" do anything different as a war goal?
Makes changing government cheaper
huh
i have a recruitble population of 105
Wait what?
Also go to local police and use cav as garrison
How do u have 60 factories then?
i have no idea honestly
i think i have another state, im all ovr the place
Thats not how it works
non-historical, germany went central european alliance and went to war
Dont be afraid to use #ask-for-help-here if you ever face issues
yeah i think my games bugged
What transition??
beef pizza
Whats happening here
They dont have more to trade
hold on did u lose singapore ๐
Oh wait I thought the deal was 1 factory for 20 oil, not one for 80 ๐ญ
oh wait this isnt rubber
The game just started
I am familiriazing myself with navy
WEll right now it is cuz Malaya doesnt have more oil ๐คทโโ๏ธ
I have too many hours in this game to be this shit ๐ญ
How many
Yea I see it now, its fine I guess
400
teach me your ways ๐
you should have enough oil
if u said like 2k I wouldve been worried. But hours are like a bad indicator of skill beyond 1k anyhow
from iraq
Well I cant move my navy around without loosing my entire stockpile in 2 days
๐ญ
Well when the game starts
you like
uh
organize it
and stuff
I am fighting germany, not the americans
Also I didnt understand how puppets worked
I always hated how I didnt get their resources
only now I realized I do have to trade for them
but I get huge discounts
separate the subs and destroyers and merge everything else
train destroyers for naval xp
put the destroyers back into the fleet before going to war. subs stay separated
Guys, I just capitulated the USSR as Romania. I am so proud and happy of myself that I screenshooted the map and put it as my backround.
Subs are seperated, I have one fleet of all heavy stuff, seperate fleet for carriers and I mix light crusiers with destroyers and stuff
u should have a deathstack
death stack?
How is that meta ๐ญ
it is
What if I have to fight on multiple fronts
then unlucky
Is human wave any good? I know its fun but ain't quality better than quantity when it comes to land forces?
like I wanna hold the mediterrean sea
Wanna hop on vc
in this regard
There is a new one?
U either split in half or move it around, but deathstacking is just the way to go
Everything but Hoi5 ๐ญ
then move ur fleet there and protect gibraltar and suez with land divisions
So what, there is gonna be 2 naval dlcs? I still dont have the one with naval designer
no
Screw HOI5, I will not spend like 80 dollars on another map game.
they will probably update the game mechanics
like they added special projects
or the MIOs idk
This
if u dont have naval designer dont bother with navy
just make deathstacks and u shouldnt have any issue
I thought you needed a seperate fleet for destroyers, since they are like
patrolling and stuff
Yeah, I don't think cussing is prohibited but its blocked.
no
u have a battlefleet task force
multiple taskforces for:
convoy escorts (6 destroyers each)
convoy raiding (10 subs each)
patrol (1 light cruiser each)
So should my carriers be in my main fleet?
yea
for each what?
But arent they like movable airfields? What would they do in a fleet battle
and battleships need destroyers and light cruisers for screening
launch naval bombers into the battle
Carriers can technically act like that, but in practice they are only ever used in naval battles
at 10x the efficiency of the land ones
oooh
carriers are basically the top dog doing damage in battles
because of the naval bombers they hold
if a carrier has, say, 90 airplanes
in battle they bomb 10 times more often than the ones on land
so the effective damage would be the one of 900 planes
its like using a shield to shield you from being hit by arrows
in this case you are the capital ships and the shield are light ships
i would just skip vanilla navy and install a navy rework mod
im using vanilla navy rework rn
So capital ships boom boom the enemy ships, and small ships boom boom the incoming torpedos?
i could never bring myself to go back to playing vanilla ever again
So what does this it rework?
light attack-oriented light cruisers are used to shred their screening
more intricate naval mechanics
basically vanilla but an extra step
maybe 2
slightly tweaked mechanics but follow the same ideas
id recommend you look it up and see it for yourself
it is 100% worth it
So screening is what exactly? Intel they can use to shoot me or?
the name is confusing
I dont have man the guns sadly
I may get it on a sale
i think someone else can explain it better than i can
this game is really expensive
i just finished a major assignment this morning so im really tired rn
I get it
get every dlc bar graveyard of empires
goe just sucks
The entire concept of dlcs suck
trvth
can someone ban this guy for filter evading?
but pdx people still need to put food on their table
@solemn topaz GET ON IT
says the f word once
advocates for his ban
bro ran to get a trusted adult ๐ฅ
its not even that bad of a word
bro going after the small fish instead of the big ones
I will work towards annexing australia
and giving it to Canada
this is your punishment
ok bro now this is crossing the line
making fun of my because of my nationality?
what if i was jewish it wouldnt be so funny now huh
huh ?
Get the joke, because I am playing UK I said mate instead of bro
and I pretend I dont understand what bro means, because english people say mate
or so I heard
Bro what ๐
@chilly plover get him @packgod
idk what chess hes playing but to me it sounds like checkers
finally somone with a brain here
please kill him now

death threats now -_-
atleast make it sublel
Philipines it is
Dont filter evade please
๐
Filter is way too cruel cmon
This is a game about WW2 and stuff, wouldn't it be reasonable to loosen the filter up a bit?
thanks for umuting me mods or something

Dont say that
Or u wont get another chance
im gonna say it after this message
Theres a reason automod mutes u
it
why
Mods, embargo this fool immediatelly
mods sever his urethra
why
He was skinny dipping
in the damn english chanel
with destroyers
This is my best general?
frick
.....thats not how that works.
I am gifting him to the canadians, he can be a paratrooper
And no? You have better ones
I missed em then
Even before tbh
Some people are pretty good like liveida or dawn
Oh no I mean we got bored as we used the host tool
Someone deleted our entire army
We played it and lost to barb
Since barb happened in late 42/early 43
D-day went great though we encircled 100+ divs
Does spamming subs still work ?
At least naval invade or something
they give like no supremacy
maybe early subs with no snorkel or anechoic tiles
get killed easy
wdym what are subs even good for
theyre good for completely limiting the ai to land only
if u set them to always engage it will keep warships stuck for a while
in the battle
youll kill warships
Torpedo slots on planes are limited by airframe type?
What means I can fill the rest of the slots on a carrier torpedo bomber with rocket rails if I wanna RP them as CAS ?
Ah I see
Maybe?
damn it, stalin...
TNO is so freaking awesome โค๏ธโ๐ฅ ๐ฅ ๐ฅ ๐ฅ
killings convoys??????????????????????????????????????????????????
Realistically how much does that actually achieve
okay, first non-historical game and everyone is going monarchist
Back to good old times ig
fr
capitulated poland is a naval superpower
where are all of these destroyers and submarines coming from
This on historical?
nah
Yeah.
this on the fun mode
Then that's why. 




I have not felt happiness in fifteen years
Slight exaggeration. There had to be at least a single moment in which you did feel happiness. Do not oversimplify your memories 
I have Not felt happines in Like 3 years
didnt even know the AI could take this path
Its quite common tbh
huh
At least, in my game they leave them with Just Delhi lol
AI probably won't be able to buy other county's provinces
gm
is this normal?
Oh, well, these are simple taxes in the USSR, after all, there is war
Naaah, now I came up with a new joke
It is all because corruption
The entire tank production is disassembled and sent for vodka flasks
Yes
Your cost needs to be above 0
Or it wont produce anything
the gameplay is cool but the color scheme throws me off
TNO is just a visual novel that lags
Hi, is there a method to make the colony rebel to their owner?
How do you have negative IC ๐
cutting corners x8
This is why I despise modded tank designers
so many horsessss
Every no context Is a good context because It has no context so you dont Need context to have a context
my Brain just..........exploded
Please ban this scammer
<@&846894118219022336>
Kaiserreich civil war
when is the new update
yo guys does paradox copywrite your video if you use one of the hoi4 OST's in the video? or do you need to buy a license of some sort to do so?
I have a question. If I have 2 generals assigned to a field marshal and I have one more general that I want to assign to said field marshal, can I do it without deleting the front line?
I'm kinda new to this game
like one more army?
Yea
yeah you can, just use the assign button and click on the front line
im pretty sure that works
Oh my thank you very much
peak mod
Welp
Started playing afghanistan
Is anyone here passionate about playing HOI4 and about football/soccer?
VNR?
@viral mauve
Tststs
Hey man
I once searched up for a mod like ts lol
I quit HOI 4 tho
Like 1 year ago
But football never ofc
Hey Svet
Would you be interested in giving me some ideas maybe?
I have started working on an ambitious Hearts of Football mod. I haven't done too much. Edited the whole map and added the new country leaders for each FIFA football association.
I am texting this to maybe get some ideas, suggestions or even help modding.
Hmmm
Well idk anything about modding but I think I can give some ideas
Yeah, that's also good
So like the country leaders are the irl FA presidents of each country?
Yes
I see
Well I think you should add some club stuff maybe
Like for the focus trees ig
Lol it just hit me how hard making a football mod is
Ideas deadass don't exist if I think about it
All the Caribbean are liberated.
As well as Oceania
Yeah, it is quite ambitious on my part
No, I modded it. That is the easy part though
how do i stop manchuria from going into civil war as japan
Most mods don't focus on the Caribbean at all. I have added all the states to that
I am trying to think of shit ๐ญ
What point of mod?
I am thinking of doing a National team scenario and a Champions League one/ Club World Cup
What is the mod theme?
A HOI4 total conversion mod into the world of Football
Wow, excellent
Make generals managers
Britain's guarantee approves
Should I add terrorismo ball? You know the Saddam football memes that keep appearing?
Getafe ball
5-4-1
For example, my team, Arsenal, would be the heads of haramball
Tststs Arteta
With Mikel Artetanyahu
Oh I will add Osimeone bin Laden as well
I'm alive
And vini infected hoi4 general
I was called here
With his small football knowledge
Small gng?
The only small thing is Barca as a club
This is the ideology maps. I should change it a bit
What mod are you making?
For the clubs part use each clubโs irl ideology for example, Lazio is linked to far right politics and St. Pauli to far left politics
Hearts of Football, basically a mod that converts the world into a Football mod
That's a good one
Where the Chiefs at?
Oh, its soccer
Kaizer
I hope Zeus strikes you.
"Soccer" gimmick
Sorry I'm American.
Tststs
Cool
I might get Kratos instead.
whos gonna win
Himler.
mussolini got his head chopped off and the grand council declared war on me
I hear someone's head rolling due to that decision.
blew up most of germany
but italy joined their faction
so i now have to fight them
i am in the allies
but most of their troops are in germany
very inconvenient that i just happen to ahve this border
and venice while we're at it
Sup
Did you see Israel vs Italy yesterday?
5 4
i don't think portugal gets the iberian union
Gattuso OP
Tststs
hey uh thorez
maurice i need you to garrison your border
the italians are literally walking in
pull out of germany
my plans right now
take venice and south tyrol
main goal against italy
for germany
bayern or silesia
actually did they have silesia historically
i think they did once
had a look
under bohemia
doesn't look like i get cores for either
if the french lose this is wear
though i think under the hungarian side of A-H you could get silesia under the duchy of teschen
Mussolini's grandson is playing in Seria A I think
Mussolini to Lazio here we go
thats a footbal team and his grand daughter was in a corn magazine and works in the council of the eu i know
oh they've got nothing lmao
barely anything
hopefully buy some time for the french
pranked
i do have sheep's instaleld so i don't know why the AI is still like this
here comes uncle sam
whoops
guess we're not taking
all of venice today
Kill and paradrop uk
Easy
i remember the
new italy gets veneto as thier startng state
in the conference
as in i can't take it because im technically their ally
and it's their core
i will take dalmatia and south tyrol from them though
anyways the
kingdom can deal with that
blue china
i swore they were yellow when i started
italy's done
back to germany
The collection does have vnr compatibility
easy to say if i had an airforce
i only have 300 planes
its over
I love blue China
nah bro is so done
accept ur defeat
never!!!!!! i will keep fighting for the turkish people and defend the homeland with all my might
i feel like taking bosnia
austria is hungry for serbia
and i will
Research, do doctrines, special forces
Your manpower is good
Industry is uh not great
Industry can be worked around
To some degree
when germany caps u will be naval invaded till death
good luck in ur pain bro
ill let portugal take all of spain because its funny
Thats awesome
This is one of the few times where maintanance companies could be return on investment
yeah like i can do that i dont have luxury soldier i have no navy no airforce no industry the onlything that i can defend with is the mountains
i did press some fancy buttons that gave me claims on bavaria
but i don't know if i actually want bavaria
because if i do germany'll look like an eyesore
and who wants that
only take bavaria for the nice map
i can't satellite them for whatever reason
Well thats Just a skill issue, air Is Always needed
lol annex them
ill let the french take the rest of southern germany
Democratic?
non-aligned
Do you have democrats in your Alliance?
welcome back 1870
yeah
Tahts the problem ig, having democratic Powers stops you from puppeting
think thats all i need to do
Stupid democracies
I wanna map paint
Imagine being democratic ๐
I mean canโt u annex and then release it
Ok but ai cant make airfields
You can always beat them where theres no airfielss
Ye? But a democracy can steal the tag by putting a provisional gov and stealing the country tag
India, africa, asia, oceania
Maybe ussr
You can kill them in ports either aftey they land or intentionally
Thicc poland
As long as you can replenish your losses and they perpetually lose more your research will catch up
Youll be able to make your own navy, air, tanks when low manpower
Use mountaineers
Very strong units
Fire
good keep it cheap make sure you give it tons and tons of fire power
its a suppression tank
oh okay
nah elephants are better
They're playing Equestria at War, so essentially, infantry are the cavalry
i think they should use elephants
how did italy manage to beat france while in a civil war lmfao
actual chad mussolini for once
hes not brainless anymore
Mussolini locked in
Also france might be more of a liability than italy
So Just Afghanistan? 
Gone, reduced to atoms
Fair point
Never been there in the first place
you can still be saved, i got 2,5k hours
100 hours are dedicated to Austria alone
idk tbh
5000
500 hours were vanilla then the rest was mods
At that point Just delete your social life
Get this game on mfking sale already
It Just was bruv
play it
A month ago
you won't get obssesed
Yeah?