hoi4-general

[heavy vigil]

Its odd that hoi4 doesnt let you cross the sahara

The french did it rather famously

[placid sleet]

how fried are we?

[flat barn]

I like the sahara me personally

[heavy vigil]

Freedom of movement idk

[cedar latch]

You’re a mod now?

[heavy vigil]

Also probably where cities/settlements were

[primal timber]

reichstag minigame feels less like a minigame and more like pp drain

[heavy vigil]

blue

[cedar latch]

That means you work for Chak my arch nemesis

[snow rain]

I get that but there's so much wrong in it
like, some tiles can be attacked from 4 angles while not being encircled, if the combat width isn't extremely small (which it should be) it means you can basically send in 100k troops to fight there

like, the french sahara campaign in 1940 was led by 2-5k men iirc

[heavy vigil]

Why isnt there some terrain in hoi thats like a base 10 width

Like idk pacific islands and stuff

[flat barn]

Luxembourg Switzerland Nepal Bhutan Tanna Tuva

The 5 strongest countries on earth

[primal timber]

wheres aussa

[random snow]

um

[flat barn]

sixth

[flat barn]

looks like lebensraum is for the british now

[wind swift]

Today I learned that war goals expire 🙁

Rip Ironman run

[primal timber]

they want more colonies

[random snow]

i might just invade sweden and steal the manpower after i core it

[flat barn]

are you on economy of conquest btw

[serene token]

Morning

[flat barn]

hi

[serene token]

Hello

[random snow]

no i canceled mefo bills when my shit went to 100% and i did the price control focus

[primal timber]

i get free mils from funding rheinmetall and mauser

and im instead gonna use them to make planes

[random snow]

i havent been using that mechanic

[primal timber]

all you need for the bundesrat is bavaria and thuringia

thats it

[random snow]

if i get into a war with the US or UK im screwed

[flat barn]

no kriegsmarine build up 😢

[random snow]

i got 2 battleships on the way

[flat barn]

your new right?

[flat barn]

2 battle ships arent saving you now lol

[primal timber]

the balkans have yet again

blown up

[random snow]

nah

[flat barn]

oh wow

[sudden grotto]

Broski Just extarminated a whole Village lol

Without even touching the rifle

[primal timber]

does he know

[flat barn]

clearly so

[heavy vigil]

Im just amazed at how bad their army was

[random snow]

Im gonna be honest im just now researching carriers

[heavy vigil]

They lost like 450K to like 7K on ym end

And i was using mostly bad inf

[flat barn]

we are two dev diaries away from the trailer for the pacific

[random snow]

maybe

[sudden grotto]

Shouldnt they get massive defensive buffs in cores?

[heavy vigil]

No because they went aggressive

[flat barn]

trailer is coming in october

[heavy vigil]

They declared the war btw

And then did

[sudden grotto]

What the focke

[heavy vigil]

So poorly

Its actually embarrassing

[random snow]

my newest planes are upgraded bf109s

[sudden grotto]

They Just launched a bunch of french swiss at yo ass and died before crossing the border

[heavy vigil]

For a while yes

I got vetted inf

Because i had 4 guys on their border

No field hospitals or buffs

And they just kept attacking with like 5-10 soft attack units

[primal timber]

i still find it funny that the west bank of the rhine are still it's own states as if france is just gonna steal it back

[sudden grotto]

F

[primal timber]

strongest scw units

[placid sleet]

11% of the world's population is dead now if we factor in civilian deaths

[heavy vigil]

It was the swiss army

Not spain

No dumb state or nation debuffs

[primal timber]

ww1 experience

[flat barn]

its poland time

historical poland

lets go

[primal timber]

i didn't want angola i just needed british neutrality but sure

chat is this meta

okay im starting to understand why ww1 was an absolute meatgrinder

[flat barn]

ye

[primal timber]

"no attack? no breakthrough? no nothing?"

[wide lagoon]

is 419 hours of hoi4 gameplay a long or a short amount of time

[primal timber]

that breakthrough will be

hell on earth

[placid sleet]

chat

did i hit the integer limit 🥀

[flat barn]

i think you have a lot of guns

[placid sleet]

that's what 29 years of war will do to you

[primal timber]

i imagine the guys in my MIO will look at this and think "what the hell is a tank"

[trim pike]

Yes

[primal timber]

china just collapsed again

it's been a whole 2 years

[placid sleet]

china's whole again

then it broke again

[primal timber]

we have invented

truck with gun

[random snow]

um

[primal timber]

truly revolutionary stuff

i hope this can actually improve our

abysmal breakthrough

[serene token]

?

[random snow]

isnt it supposed to be churchill

[serene token]

Did Churchill get removed or something.

[primal timber]

straight line

classic europe

[serene token]

And what year are you in?

[serene token]

One small little push is gonna crush your dreams of a straight Turkey border.

[primal timber]

ferd i think you're slightly overextending

uh oh

im gonna save the game

and see what happens if i just let it keep going

[inner jewel]

Yippee, I got it

[serene token]

Wouldn't it be easy if you sided with the Germans?

[placid sleet]

moon landing just happened

[inner jewel]

I didn’t ally anyone the entire game

[serene token]

Oh

[inner jewel]

I killed the Benelux and British first, then the Axis, then the Soviets

[serene token]

Your playing The New Order:

[placid sleet]

i'm playing ts

🥀

[primal timber]

it just went away

[random snow]

what were you saying 2 battleships wont do anything

[primal timber]

i think the ottomans de-escalated on their own

would've been funny to have ww1 in 1913

[serene token]

Indeed

[primal timber]

i just saw "liberal mexico declared war on mexico" and thought "dear god woke mexico is rebelling"

this is like their third civil war within these 3 years

[slim nexus]

LMAO

[primal timber]

mmm

big bertha

[dark fulcrum]

Hello

[primal timber]

i like the tank better though

[dark fulcrum]

@woeful briar buenas

@woeful briar

[glad forum]

no

there is a + button

right of the number of the mils

[inner jewel]

Funnily enough Germany was the easiest one to cap as they were preoccupied with the Soviets

[dark fulcrum]

@woeful briar hola

[serene token]

Lol

[woeful briar]

wtf

pero si no lo tienes

[primal timber]

still trying to fix this

horrid breakthrough

[woeful briar]

ooooooo

epic

[dark fulcrum]

A qué si

[dark fulcrum]

Ya y quería que saliera en mi nombre

[flat barn]

who will win?
HeilKarlenschnitzelKriegendiezhanzenbratwurstenfuher
OR
Polskimcwarwezxarezmzmfiatblyatibolslawcoleslaw?

[woeful briar]

entonces te gastas 60 euros

[dark fulcrum]

No

Alomejor cuando esté de oferta si tengo dinero

[primal timber]

i can feel the howitzer shells flowing in my blood

my army is not big enough

clearly i need to train another army of infantry divs

[random snow]

wtf is the dutch doing

[flat barn]

1945

[random snow]

Fortress holland??

Dawg my panzers are losing to a single bicycle division

[heavy vigil]

This is an english only server, stated in the #server-rules channel, please keep spanish/any non english out of chats as there are no current means to moderate it

[paper echo]

are they made in italy by any chance

[random snow]

nah

[paper echo]

bro is the definition of a mentally unstable person

why tf are you declaring so late 💀

[random snow]

They are being pushed by light tanks

im done

i cant send anymore divisions

might have found my issue

i dont see why i cant push

[serene token]

They stole your title.

Your not number 1 anymore.

Your now the second.

[paper echo]

do you have air superiority?do you have fuel?

[paper echo]

also its a river crossing

[paper echo]

😔

[random snow]

i have fuel and there is no airbase for the planes

[serene token]

Lol

[serene token]

Build some.

[paper echo]

its a river crossing and you dont have air superiority so this might be the reason

[paper echo]

also its probably late game and the allies probably have a LOT of air

[random snow]

i cant use planes from my territory

[paper echo]

what year is it

[serene token]

Why?

[random snow]

45

[paper echo]

its late game so allies probably have a lot of air

[random snow]

i cant push because i dont have infantry support and the ones i do have are under supplied

[heavy vigil]

Thats your stats in theory

Not on the field

Youre underequipped, probably untrained, with terrain and river debuffs

And modern tanks arent good anyway

[random snow]

My stuff is at about a 70% capacity

[serene token]

Its just L's across the board.

[heavy vigil]

Ok so?

[paper echo]

and allied cas damage

[heavy vigil]

That could be full guns 25% tanks

[random snow]

thats the design

[heavy vigil]

Its not average overall

It needs the equipment to have stats

And those are not great

Because moderns are just bad

[royal marten]

And

[heavy vigil]

Use this design if youre forced to use moderns

[random snow]

thats the division stats

[heavy vigil]

With HC 3

[heavy vigil]

Yeah now click on the battle

[random snow]

i found out why

they prob have some good anti tank guns and they are entrenched to shit

[heavy vigil]

Hover over modifiers

For yourself

[serene token]

So much water needs to be restocked.

[heavy vigil]

Belgian stats are good but not that good

[random snow]

mmm

[heavy vigil]

There you have it

[random snow]

im just gonna build a railway gun and see if that works

[heavy vigil]

Tanks are all about maximizing green

If not maximizing green, dont do tank

[sudden thistle]

When in doubt. Use a nuke

[random snow]

as soon as i leave they fold

[serene token]

Move in

[wind swift]

I just spent days following ESGs guide for Germany, got right up to Danzig or War and let it expire lol. First game back in abfew years haha 🤣 oops.

I thought war goals lasted 6 months for some reason

[random snow]

ok new aircraft carriers

and yes i have the planes

[opal nymph]

This is cool

[heavy vigil]

Yes i thought you would find it cool

I made some cursed tanks with it with sp_ra

[opal nymph]

But what they just really need is recoilless rifles and the ability to mount medium cannons on small turrets

[heavy vigil]

Yes

[opal nymph]

Like a 1944 light tank chasis

[heavy vigil]

They add a lot of turret types

[opal nymph]

Yeah, im just saying vanilla needs that

[heavy vigil]

I wasnt able to read them properly because no localization

But mod is cool

[opal nymph]

Recoilless rifles could be a branch of anti tank or you gain them from doing anti tank

[opal nymph]

Or rocket arty

[heavy vigil]

Next update they should let you put the AT gun on the tank

That japan did

[opal nymph]

No turret?

0 production cost -20% defense

+10% speed since less weight lol

[heavy vigil]

No they put the AT gun on the chassis

Idk if it was actually produced at all

[opal nymph]

The only prototype vehicle from japan I remember is cannon on top of chasis

I dont remember any others

[heavy vigil]

Yes that one

Idk how they even found info of that

[opal nymph]

I think how I found it, tankepedia or something like that

It is just 1 site that mentioned it I think

[heavy vigil]

From world of tanks? Lol

[opal nymph]

Sure

Probably

Don't they make up some tanks for that game

[serene token]

Think its tank prototypes that never came to a reality.

Like the Pancor Jackhammer.

[heavy vigil]

Yeah

[opal nymph]

Some were made

[heavy vigil]

Japanese tanks are

Made up by wt too

[serene token]

I love watching Gun rants.

[random snow]

im gonna have a stroke

[opal nymph]

Netherlands seem to feel a bit threatened

[random snow]

you dont say

[sudden thistle]

nukes...

[brittle wave]

Anyone know when the next sale is

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/derpy-derpy-hooves-mlp-my-little-pony-clap-gif-15401120

[frail bolt]

Bro is trying to do the treaty of London

[random snow]

this just got interesting

[hardy mirage]

are thee uh

mp servers broken

[craggy trail]

Not sure about public mp servers, but private ones still work

[hardy mirage]

ahh i see

[placid sleet]

russia finally fell apart

after 35 years of war

[craggy trail]

We love our horse puns. It's definitely not "illeagle"

🦅

[humble viper]

whats da best infantry template

[trim pike]

lmao

[trim pike]

Pins in #ask-for-help-here

[trim pike]

Working

Just scroll down and join the rest

[humble viper]

tysm

[serene inlet]

romania classic

[random snow]

ok i replaced the modern tanks with the advanced medium tanks and im selling the moderns so i can atleast turn a profit

[serene inlet]

line artillery works good against AI

if you're playing an oil intensive country with low industry spamming artillery might actually work

[random snow]

this is going to be controversial but im going to use heavy tanks along with the medium tanks and mechanized

[trim pike]

Armor meme?

[sudden thistle]

how is that controversial

[trim pike]

Exactly

[random snow]

ive always been told that it was a bad thing to do in single player

kinda like using anti tank

[trim pike]

This is bad

Armor meme is not

[serene inlet]

i had better warscore than germany as romania against the soviets + the allies

[sudden thistle]

heavies? or mediums

[trim pike]

No

[serene inlet]

using whatever that is 😂

[sudden thistle]

both aRE FINE IN SP

[serene inlet]

for minors it is

[trim pike]

If u have no industry u shouldnt even do arty

No

[trim pike]

Remove arty

[serene inlet]

no

i wont

[trim pike]

Yes

[sudden thistle]

oh woops caps lock was on

[trim pike]

Do it

[serene inlet]

i already did

[trim pike]

Good

[random snow]

which one

[serene inlet]

60% warscore as romania against the allies

and 55 against the soviets

using that

no air

[trim pike]

Wait why did u want to change

[serene inlet]

no tanks

[sudden thistle]

loyalty in our fuhrer

[trim pike]

Comparisons against ai is not valid

Try without arty

[serene inlet]

pooping 8 tank divisions would've been useless and lame against the soviets

[serene inlet]

i already did a run whitout

[sudden thistle]

wrong

[random snow]

i want more compliance in my annexed territories

[serene inlet]

i pooped like 10 tank divisions and did worse

[sudden thistle]

🐟

u prob made bad tanks

[trim pike]

Then do 35.2w inf bricks

22/0 inf with no line arty

Easier

[random snow]

I chose speer

[serene inlet]

with what manpower 😂

[trim pike]

With ma r manpower

[sudden thistle]

excuse me ur romania

[serene inlet]

u get 0 cores as romania in the focus tree

[trim pike]

Fh and op res decrease losses

[serene inlet]

yeah u get zero cores

u cant even deploy a million whitout going beyond extensive

[sudden thistle]

u get 2% rec pop in the focus tree

[trim pike]

It’s enough

[lethal ether]

no its not

[sudden thistle]

5% with doctrine

[serene inlet]

literally useless

[random snow]

plus i need more building speed for more reacters which means more nukes

[sudden thistle]

no

[serene inlet]

you need to go service by requirement to deploy more than 700k

and be a fascist aswell

and max out non core manpower aswell

only after invading soviet union i could deploy more than a million

[sudden thistle]

ur just bad at the game it seems

[serene inlet]

nice argument

play romania instead

[sudden thistle]

i already did 5 times

not anymore

[serene inlet]

oh, maybe try opening your eyes then

[sudden thistle]

i do

guh

have fun bro 👍

[serene inlet]

thanks

[lethal ether]

you dont need 10M manpower on the field

you can manage with less than 1M

[serene inlet]

if you don't go fascist + service by requirement you literally cannot get 700k and invade turkey

i've tried whitout lol it's not possible

[lethal ether]

so then go fascist and service by requirement

[serene inlet]

yeah and you wouldn't be able to make 35w inf only divs before invading the soviets

or if you do you'd make a low amount

and get less warscore than the germans 🤷

[marsh ravine]

Extensive is like the bare minimum?

[serene inlet]

no?

[marsh ravine]

Yes

[serene inlet]

no

[marsh ravine]

Why would you not go extensive

Like its asking for manpower problems

[serene inlet]

oh

i said beyond extensive

service by requirement

[marsh ravine]

Yeh service is fine

[serene inlet]

no

[marsh ravine]

Imo service is standard but some people hate -10% output

[serene inlet]

output debuff as a minor is deadly

[opal nymph]

Extensive conscription is where I like to stop

[marsh ravine]

No its not

Just do day1 mils

And u have more than enough

[opal nymph]

If manpower becomes serious, then up to service

[brisk shore]

When is we getting hearts of iron 5

[serene inlet]

day1 mils as romania lmao

[marsh ravine]

I've played romania enough times to know its fine

And that it is pure skill issue

[opal nymph]

Small army better than big army with production debuffs

[marsh ravine]

If you struggle with output in sp

Mp makes sense

[brisk shore]

Rage bait?

[marsh ravine]

Cos u get castrated and slaved into a billion things

[brisk shore]

Bigger army always better

[marsh ravine]

Depends on who u r

[opal nymph]

Id rather have production

[marsh ravine]

Romania? Big army

[opal nymph]

I never went past extensive as Canada

Though you do get some buffs in the focus tree

[marsh ravine]

If u r like greece but don't suffer manpower problems (I havent played greece so idk) then yeh ofc

[opal nymph]

Romania i know is supposed to be the infantry wall for Barb

[marsh ravine]

But as soon as u have a big front ideally u wanna fill the combat width EVERYWHERE

[opal nymph]

I just concentrate my army

My allies hold the line

[marsh ravine]

I never trust ai😭

[opal nymph]

Neither do I

But I can always play fireman

[stoic mortar]

In the year 2457

[neat stag]

should I hoi4 again

[silk furnace]

yes, alway hoi4

[rare ingot]

Wtf dem Spain doing encerclement ? Never saw that in 2700 hour lol

[crystal marsh]

[stoic mortar]

Bro is stacked

[brittle wave]

Does republican spain ever win

Or is it always the facists

[slim nexus]

bro ive not played hoi4 in a while wth is this

[hollow silo]

if you change their country rules it could

[brittle wave]

But normally it’s always the facists

Without any changes

[brittle wave]

Lots of weird people play these sort of games bro

[umbral agate]

how do i break through this

[soft yacht]

guys whats a good attack infantry temp

im new to templates

never used them before

[silk furnace]

TONK

and plane

[mild tapir]

show templates

and air

[bronze mango]

9 infantry, anti air support company, artillery support company and engineers, the perfect division for everything

[soft yacht]

thanks

[silk furnace]

true

[grizzled zenith]

Is there a quick way to gain autonomy?

[stuck bloom]

Who made france so big.

Why did France eat switzerland

[grizzled zenith]

John Paradox

[stuck bloom]

I play as germany btw

[grizzled zenith]

XD

[stuck bloom]

Im so confused

[bronze mango]

War score, and certain lend leasing such as convoys

[stuck bloom]

Why is france so disgustingly big

I would expect the UK

Or the USA

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah war score doesn't seem to help that much(I want to do a Kuwait WC)

[bronze mango]

Why is France so disgusting

[stuck bloom]

Its always disgusting

and now its big

New capital dropped

[mild tapir]

Is this mp

[stuck bloom]

Yeah

how did you tell?

[grizzled zenith]

Oh that explains everything

[mild tapir]

are you new

[bronze mango]

It isn't even a german core

[stuck bloom]

Yes, very very new

[grizzled zenith]

Germany can in fact core it

[bronze mango]

I thought only the north can be cored, not Ljubljana

[stuck bloom]

I think i have like 56 hours

[stone mango]

O question when is hoi5 comming out and is it going to be in set in the cold war

[grizzled zenith]

Oh wait

[bronze mango]

It isn't

[grizzled zenith]

It isn't North Slovenia?

[mild tapir]

God I hope hoi5 never comes out

[grizzled zenith]

Why

[stone mango]

Why

[grizzled zenith]

What if they fix diplomacy

[mild tapir]

they’ll Vic 3 it

[stuck bloom]

My friend im cooping with has like 40 hours

[grizzled zenith]

And you?

How many hours do you have

[stuck bloom]

56

[mild tapir]

they’re gonna add 3d characters for leaders and pops and it’ll be zzzz

[bronze mango]

Paradox still has a shit ton of money to milk from hoi4, it would be unwise to make a new game when the current one is still gaining players by the day

[grizzled zenith]

Ok

[lapis snow]

hoi series has always been wwii and hoi4 isn't even 10 years old yet. If EU4/EU5 is any indication we have at minimum 2 more years of hoi4

[mild tapir]

Besides UK needs an overhaul and so does US

both of them have shit trees

[stuck bloom]

We probably need ww3 for paradox to make more content

Every ww a new hoi games comes out

*game

why is there so much divisions

[mild tapir]

what year is it

[stuck bloom]

1940

[sudden grotto]

Never said its coming out lol

[lapis snow]

that isn't a lot of divs wdym?

[mild tapir]

[sudden grotto]

There are still years ahead

[mild tapir]

Sorry

[sudden grotto]

Before tjay

[stuck bloom]

and Switzerland is now attacking france

without being at war

[umbral agate]

i did it

[mild tapir]

Oh god the equipment

[stuck bloom]

i got 56 hours, this is the max ive seeen

[fickle cove]

"we can still win this war" ahh

[stuck bloom]

i think

[stuck bloom]

My friend keeps on saying this, i lost all hope already

Im just laughing at big france

[bronze mango]

Steiner will save us

[fickle cove]

LMAO I WAS RIGHT

[mild tapir]

You’ve lost the war

[stuck bloom]

Even the USSR is dying now

[mild tapir]

Germany has the most efficient mills in the game, Italy sucks

[stuck bloom]

I can never reach the hoi4 player mindset

i play this game once half a year

then forget about it

[fickle cove]

honestly i don't think i'll ever be good at the game

it's sad but it is what it is

[plucky mason]

dont worry you aint supposed to be good

[fickle cove]

idk man i just wanna have the satisfaction of beating any country i want whenever i want

[fickle cove]

yeah i am?

[bronze mango]

How many hours do you have?

[fickle cove]

i forgot, i'll be on my computer shortly and check that

so in a moment

[plucky mason]

lol

[stuck bloom]

Italy is dying too

[bronze mango]

You start getting good around 2000/3000 hours i'd say

[fickle cove]

ah ok

[stuck bloom]

Chile is attacking now

im scared

[fickle cove]

i'm WEEEEELLLLLL under a 1000, that i remember

but i'll go on my computer in a minute and check

[lethal ether]

sorry i accidentaly reacted

lmfao

[vale solstice]

I have 90 :/

[fickle cove]

LMAO I WAS SO CONFUSED

[floral mortar]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[lethal ether]

ai upscaling 😼

[umbral agate]

what is a good marines templete this is what im using rn

[bronze mango]

I would get rid of the line artillery and add anti air to the support companies

[lapis snow]

you can be trash with loads of hours and decent after a few dozen depending how you've spent that time

[bronze mango]

That is true

[lapis snow]

people who don't engage with the game will rack up time without improving

[bronze mango]

It is more so a guide line

[safe wing]

Anything that doesn’t have line arty

[fickle cove]

thought so too

there has to be a way to get good really fast

surely there's some tutorial that explains everything

[bronze mango]

Hoi4 is a peak mapping tool

[fickle cove]

wdym

[silk furnace]

not playing=skill

[bronze mango]

Using it to map out scenarios

[fickle cove]

true lol

[lapis snow]

the only really fast way would be to be really invested in understanding the mechanics and combat stats, watching and learning from those who are really good, then practising in detail. Not just doing random fun-runs. Tutorials are plentiful but there is a mountain of crap and dated advice out there

[fickle cove]

fair enough ig

do you consider paratroopers a good strategy?

bc i'm considering just using that every time i have to invade an island or smth

e.g. britain or japan

[lapis snow]

powerful when used right. There is a reason their use is strictly limited in MP comp

[sudden thistle]

I think livedia or whatever his name is is like that

[dusky burrow]

@umbral agate marines

[bronze mango]

Overkill

[dusky burrow]

Oh shoot

[sudden thistle]

Speak of the devil lol

[fickle cove]

lmao

[dusky burrow]

What a coincidence

[fickle cove]

ikkk

[sudden thistle]

How many hours do u have again

[fickle cove]

tell me how to use them right then

:)

[lapis snow]

• best used to snipe supply hubs and VPs
• best used in combination with armoured attacks to reach their position a-la market garden
• best used with heavy air support
• best used temporarily rather than for prolonged contact/frontline

you kind of expect them to be expendable a lot of the time, the benefit is badly messing up enemy frontlines and supply

[fickle cove]

alright

if i play as germany, you think it's fine if i use them on france (while invading them simultaneously), uk, and ussr (while invading them simultaneously)?

like you think it will be op

[dusky burrow]

Technically something like 1400, but I've probably only spent 800 actually playing

[fickle cove]

oh yeah i have 391 hours btw

@bronze mango

392*, mb

[lethal ether]

theres a strat to make france capitulate like instantly

using paratroopers

[fickle cove]

oh yeah i saw it in a tutorial vid

land on paris and orleans right?

[sudden thistle]

its not a strat its a cheese lol

[lethal ether]

same thing

[bronze mango]

Its unfun

[heavy vigil]

My strat is to have strat bomber AC brazil and using my french tanks to click into rhineland day 1 of war

[lethal ether]

🤯

[heavy vigil]

My strat is to scorched earth poland and roach in the center

And delete factories before war start

Not toxic or cheese at all

[soft yacht]

guys should i befriend china if japan went monarchist

[lethal ether]

does it genuinely matter if i call it a strat or a cheese

it can be a speedrun strat or something

[sudden thistle]

no

[heavy vigil]

The difference between cheese and strat is how much it lets you actually play the game

[sick pawn]

My strat is to play as Yemen and to use my massive carrier fleet against the US

[heavy vigil]

Sure cheese is great, until it gets patched/your enemy has a brain

And then youre lost

[sick pawn]

You get some genuinely insane buff

Buffs

[bronze mango]

My strat is to play iraq and stack the multiple weekly manpower buffs from the various parts of the tree and the marx portrait

[dusky burrow]

There got to be rules against deleting all of your factories rip

[lethal ether]

hey thats actually a nice strat

good suggestion

[heavy vigil]

Oh yeah but deleting factories is cheese

:D

[lethal ether]

no

strat

[placid sleet]

the only countries

it's 1981

[hard glade]

Damn Casey went from red to blue

Congrats 🎉

[worn coral]

guys

how do i stop exporting all my steel out

[vale solstice]

Change economy thing

You got free trade?

[dusky burrow]

Lower free trade or export focus to limited exports

[urban ivy]

where is the "greatest ally"

[placid sleet]

decrease your resources to market with the economy law

bro 🥀

[dusky dagger]

Ur cooked

[placid sleet]

guess how many casualties there have been in the various wars

[dusky dagger]

How many?

[placid sleet]

just take a guess

[dusky dagger]

Jst tell me

[placid sleet]

150 million

[dusky dagger]

That’s not too bad

[placid sleet]

yeah but that's just the amount of soldiers that were lost

[placid sleet]

usually for every soldier that dies 2 civilians also die

[lethal ether]

what?

[placid sleet]

that was the figure in ww2 so I am assuming it will be roughly true for wars in hoi4 in general

[jovial quiver]

Pretty sure civilians don't die in hoi4

[lethal ether]

why didnt i know this? 😭

[placid sleet]

which is why i am extrapolating it

[lethal ether]

thats because they dont exist

[placid sleet]

because hoi4 doesn't calculate civilian deaths

[jovial quiver]

Yeah I'm very aware so civilians deaths didn't need to be mentioned lol

[placid sleet]

technically they do

[jovial quiver]

Just sayin

[placid sleet]

but they don't do anything

[placid sleet]

either way, germany still got no country for old men

[jovial quiver]

Lmao

[placid sleet]

quite a long time ago, actually

it's 1982

they got it i think in 1960 ish

but population growth and compliance in occupied states gave them a bit more as time went by

[lethal ether]

did they fix it

[placid sleet]

not really

[lethal ether]

hoi4 should have more ways of increasing population

[placid sleet]

who are partisans

and why are they here in 1982

[lethal ether]

especially for people who spend like 30 years in 1 playthrough

[lethal ether]

are u playing a mod or smt

[placid sleet]

none that change content

[daring geyser]

my strat is to uhm, crash the lobby

it sounds like a reasonable strategy

[dusky burrow]

Lmao

[slim nexus]

I need a soviet union for a vanilla cold war alt history anyone intrested?

[lone sail]

like a save file?

[slim nexus]

nvm

[limber jackal]

is approach tukhachevsky better or approach primakov? (trotsky civil war)

[cursive socket]

i can not send air volunteers any help

[spark quartz]

Guys don't check hoi4 multiplayer servers

it's crazy

[bronze mango]

What happened?

[gilded vessel]

just made the menu theme 24 minutes of combined songs

[gilded vessel]

is it the server called "child toucher"?

[spark quartz]

gy furry prn

is the name

[gilded vessel]

dont see it

[lone sail]

black sunday but in game

its even sunday today

[spark quartz]

turn on "no passwords"

[gilded vessel]

is there even anything in the servers or is it just a multiplayer server used for promotion

[spark quartz]

they seem to promote a discord server that way

[lone sail]

i bet the guy doing it is the same guy from black sunday

[spark quartz]

what is black sunday

[lone sail]

hes getting revenge for getting banned

[lone sail]

on a sunday night in this discord server someone started posting nsfw and cheese pizza in gif form

for 20 minutes

[spark quartz]

dang

[lone sail]

the mods where gettin spammed but no response

[sudden grotto]

India?

[spiral eagle]

is this vanilla

[grizzled zenith]

Is there a way to have a civil war as a 1 state minor with 1 core?

[sudden grotto]

I think It has the rk++ mod

The only rk you can make in the balkans is balkania so

[grizzled zenith]

Balkania to unbalkanize the Balkans LMAO

[sudden grotto]

1944? Isnt that lad hess?

[mild roost]

what mod are you using?

[spiral eagle]

i dont know

[uncut pollen]

What Guy?

[lyric shell]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-kitasan-black-satono-diamond-fus-ro-dah-gif-2306389661078326831

[lone sail]

Kelly moneymaker made that rule

[random snow]

My baltic lines are falling apart

my panzer corp are dead

[dusky burrow]

How did you lose your panzer corp

[random snow]

i wasnt paying attention and they got encircled and destroyed

[dusky burrow]

Aeugh

[random snow]

my airforce was blown out of the sky

im not producing enough

[brittle wave]

anyone know if hoi4 is part of the political sim steam sale tomorrow

[stoic mortar]

Idk

[brittle wave]

it better be ]

i cant be asked waiting until november for the autumn one

[stoic mortar]

Maybe google it

[brittle wave]

it said it is part of it ig

but i dont know for sure

[stoic mortar]

Ok

[woven marlin]

is there someplace i can post about an oversight/bug thats messing up my game?

its the supply hubs, not working as they should

[lethal ether]

whats wrong

?

[woven marlin]

i can post screenshot it will be clear

im soviet, conquering japan, most territory i conquer going to communist china

all the supply hubs in that china region display "no connection to capital" (despite working connection to mine)

i assume because china capital is separated

[lethal ether]

right

[rare ingot]

Guys

is there a meta where sending volunteers give you victory point ?

[woven marlin]

but all the supply hubs in the region below dark red work

even though, the connection they use literally includes the supply hubs that "have no connection"

[woven marlin]

so my troops are getting no supply based on something i dont even control

[fathom obsidian]

something is very wrong

[lethal ether]

thats a bad situation to be in lol

[leaden mulch]

what mod

[woven marlin]

its ridiculous!

outrageous!

[lethal ether]

can you ask china for control of the land

[woven marlin]

they refuse unfortunately

[fathom obsidian]

Russia Reworked

[woven marlin]

if i get peace conference can i get those land do you know?

[random snow]

should i send this to the disaster save website

[lethal ether]

ya

if your ally didnt previously own those lands then you can get them

[woven marlin]

nah their stealing it from my advances

[lethal ether]

youre playing on ironman right

[woven marlin]

no

im new to the game

i played 1 ironman and regretted it

[lethal ether]

theyre just occupying it, you can negotiate for it in the peace deal

[zinc light]

okay Space Marines are pretty great

[woven marlin]

okay thank you, do you know how the game decides that it shouldnt go to me, but to china?

[lethal ether]

you negiotiate for it

[woven marlin]

because you can see some land is going to me some to them

[lethal ether]

have you ever been in a peace deal

[fathom obsidian]

100% normal peace conference

[lethal ether]

it doesnt matter

theyre occupying it during wartime

[woven marlin]

no i mean now during the war

[lethal ether]

ohh

no i dont know that lol

ive just played with it and never wondered what or how the game decides

[woven marlin]

it matters a little because my troops are at 0 supply lol

[lethal ether]

im guessing based on claimes, cores or borders

[woven marlin]

i see

thank you for the help

[lethal ether]

np

[umbral kayak]

Im new to hoi can some1 tell me how i make early anschluss

[wispy grove]

Hello

[weary edge]

Rate this

[wispy grove]

Through focus tree

[weary edge]

SPAM TROOPS AND WEAPONS

[umbral kayak]

Ok ty

[gilded vessel]

considering you are a german that lost to belgium you got a good encirclement

[lethal ether]

it depends if u got dlc or not

[weary edge]

Broski I am the Berlin

[umbral kayak]

No

[weary edge]

That white lil dot is me@gilded vessel

[sudden thistle]

ur flag

[lethal ether]

then u just gotta produce alot of infantry eq

[gilded vessel]

could be worse

[lethal ether]

i thogught u were poland

[gilded vessel]

i cant read mandarin or korean

[lethal ether]

for a second

🙏

[umbral kayak]

Have you got dc on your pc bc you can press f12 to take a Screenshot and then go to steam and copy then you can paste it here so we can see it better

[umbral kayak]

Okay ty

[weary edge]

I playing HOI4 at laptop and I talk with my phone

[umbral kayak]

Ah ok

[opal nymph]

Just do windows shift s or print screen

Then ctrl c, ctrl v

Much easier

[random snow]

please send help

[opal nymph]

What is your plane design?

[opal nymph]

Well, lack of self sealing might be an issue

Is that a radar system?

[random snow]

yes

[opal nymph]

Don't really need those

Hoi4 believes in the fighter plane mafia

Actually not really

But go all in on guns, defense, and range

[random snow]

My think is if you can see them before they see you then you stand a better chance

[opal nymph]

Haha, no

Just tank shots

Visibility isnt a stat for planes

[serene token]

Hmm

[opal nymph]

Agility is not as impactful as it used to be

[worn coral]

guys

[serene token]

Thought Agility meant like health.

[dusky burrow]

Either reduce the engines (you don't need them all) or increase your weaponry

[worn coral]

for some reason my naval invasion wont go through

[opal nymph]

No, agility is a multiplier

[dusky burrow]

Also yeah don't need the radar too

[opal nymph]

Send screenshot

[lethal ether]

ss when ?

[worn coral]

and yes i have naval supremacy

[west flicker]

where's your naval invasion

[opal nymph]

Don't use a field marshal

Use a general

Field marshals cant naval invade

Generals can

[worn coral]

same thing

[opal nymph]

Don't get rid of your field marshal though

[random snow]

im dead in the water

[opal nymph]

Just click the general and do it

Also lmao, Albania declined

[worn coral]

i changed the field marshal into a general

[opal nymph]

Nononono

[worn coral]

it still wont go

[opal nymph]

You need to have a general selected

[random snow]

do you have naval supremacy

[opal nymph]

Still have a field marshal

[lapis snow]

if you look at the stats of the module you'll see all air-air radar does is reduce the night penalty. Don't infer stats from the names, look at the effects

[worn coral]

dude

[lethal ether]

u need to prepare

hover over the checkmark

[worn coral]

did you even look at the screenshot dude

[worn coral]

wdym click the general and do it?

[opal nymph]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8ojdYbgwK8

[worn coral]

i know how to naval invade

[opal nymph]

Yes, click a general, then set up the orders

Apparently not

[worn coral]

i just didnt know you couldnt do it with field marshals

[random snow]

i dont care what people say i need this

[opal nymph]

Wait hold up, you can naval invade with field marshals? You have the option available

[marsh ravine]

Advanced?

[opal nymph]

You just never set up an invasion

[marsh ravine]

Tf r u playing where u need AT3

[random snow]

tank guns

[marsh ravine]

?

[opal nymph]

Support Anti Air?

[marsh ravine]

U just put the gun in your tank then?

[opal nymph]

That pierces everything the AI throws at you

[random snow]

the game where im going to collapse in a few months

[marsh ravine]

Like ai isnt good enough to need AT3 pure vanilla

[marsh ravine]

What nation?

[random snow]

I cant produce the tank

[random snow]

Germany vs russia

[marsh ravine]

Which one

[opal nymph]

As who

[opal nymph]

Germany okay

[random snow]

im germany

[marsh ravine]

Oh

[opal nymph]

HOLY ORANGE BARS

[marsh ravine]

You do not need at3

Like i think u need inf equipment bro

[random snow]

are you sure about that

I HAVE NO MANPOWER

[marsh ravine]

How the fack did u take 4m casualties

Then go up conscription law

[random snow]

IM ON SCRAPPING THE BARREL

[marsh ravine]

Request garrison manpower if u r garrisoninf

[west flicker]

pushing with no supply 😭

[random snow]

I GOT A ACHIEVMENT

[marsh ravine]

What the fack have you done

[worn coral]

how are you so bad

[west flicker]

why are you spearheading russians with no supply

[marsh ravine]

Don't be mean

[random snow]

It got so bad i put it on the disaster saves website

[opal citrus]

guys i just accidentially swalloed a whole jolly rancher

[marsh ravine]

But like genuinely how do u get to 0 manpower

At that point

[dusky burrow]

4 million vs 1 million?!

[marsh ravine]

Delete ur dics

[west flicker]

hold the line get your supply, manpower, and then try again

[marsh ravine]

Divs

Consolidate

[worn coral]

im not being mean

[marsh ravine]

What is your div template

[marsh ravine]

Okay

[worn coral]

im genuinely amazed

[opal citrus]

no i did worse

[west flicker]

ok lowkey i did do that before but that was back when i was even stupider

[opal citrus]

this is my 2nd time playing

[west flicker]

2nd time playing france*

[random snow]

im doing so bad im taking planes from my aircraft carriers

[opal citrus]

i GOTY THE COMMUNISTS AGAIN

HOW

ON CIVILLAN MODE

[west flicker]

russia still alive and you have aircraft carriers? man i want to be that guy

[marsh ravine]

Stability

Keep your stability high

[west flicker]

balance of power

[cold wedge]

The civilian mode doesn't change the fact they spawn

[marsh ravine]

Don't join the civilwar

[marsh ravine]

Its france not italy

/whatevs

[opal citrus]

i have tuah

[west flicker]

france has one too tho

[marsh ravine]

No you dont

Literally

Just send vols

[opal citrus]

morally i do

[cold wedge]

don't join civil war, and don't force Germany to keep the rhine militarized

[worn coral]

dude

[marsh ravine]

+do ban communism

[lethal ether]

play normal imo it doesnt make a big difference

[ebon wolf]

you can get king edward viii to become absolut monarch, how about king george vi?

[worn coral]

what the hell

[opal citrus]

i suck at hoi4

[worn coral]

the naval invasion still wont work

[west flicker]

dw we in same boat

[cold wedge]

then get better

[marsh ravine]

Then send vols instead of joining war?

[barren crag]

How strong that gun is in IRL?

[random snow]

very

[marsh ravine]

Wasn't George vi dead in a month?

[opal citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/kamala-harris-donald-trump-kamala-harris-gif-2927725582966939359

[lethal ether]

hover over the checkmark and seee what it says

[worn coral]

weak

wont go through a modern tank

[ebon wolf]

nah thats king george v, king george vi dies in 1952

[barren crag]

Really?

[worn coral]

yes

[barren crag]

But how about 17cm version?

[marsh ravine]

Oh well I dont think he can become leadee

[random snow]

im probobly going to scrap my entire navy for manpower

[west flicker]

i'm cooked

[marsh ravine]

Tho iirc he used to be able to lead Palestine lmao

Or some.other British colony

[worn coral]

modern tanks have the equivalent of around 2m of steel

[cold wedge]

Depends, it's probably a 75mm caliber, but could also be a 105, also dependent on what shells it shoots it could have up to 150-300+ mm of penetration which could go through modern tanks if you aim from the side

[marsh ravine]

Idk if he still can

[worn coral]

of armor

[lapis snow]

I'll download and see if I can save it

[worn coral]

yes

[sudden thistle]

ez win

[random snow]

https://disastersavior.com/public/disaster-saves/68634d44-08b8-4a1c-8091-95ad75ce8b33

[lethal ether]

https://tenor.com/view/just-do-it-nike-gif-12768367

[worn coral]

@lethal ether

[cold wedge]

No, modern tanks have like 60mm of side armour if you aim for the lower side

[marsh ravine]

That is literally the freest game I've ever seen

[barren crag]

So is still powerfull then

[worn coral]

i mean frontal

[west flicker]

nah bro

[worn coral]

nera elements are much stronger than steel

[cold wedge]

For modern standards nope, because modern artillery has stabilizer and stuff

[marsh ravine]

1949!?!?

Give up breh

[slim nexus]

Historical gameplay ngl, looks like 1940

[lapis snow]

that's nothing, I've done disasters starting in the 50s

[cold wedge]

Frontal they have 800mm+ maybe even 1000+mm that's like 1m, but because it's a outdated shell it is more effective

[west flicker]

i'm noob

so i play historical

[worn coral]

its supposed to go through

but its just wont work

[cold wedge]

war thunder nerd 😭

[marsh ravine]

I just dont know how people can struggle for that long like how do they put up with it

[slim nexus]

Its okay bro. Everyone was noob at this game. You learn over time and playing

[barren crag]

Do you think hoi4 will have more tech beyond 1945 in vanilla?

[lethal ether]

i have no idea

[lapis snow]

me neither but alas

[cold wedge]

not needed

[lethal ether]

youre at war withj albania right

[barren crag]

y tho?

[west flicker]

45 already lasts like 6 hours 😭

[marsh ravine]

Ahist isnt like higher skill imo, but ur current game looks v winnable

Like u get baltics for free

[lethal ether]

no it shouldnt lol?

[cold wedge]

Because the game basically ends around that time, and if you want more just add a mod bro

[marsh ravine]

U have half of europe alr