#tech-support

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night ridge
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Tell me again your issue

candid lake
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Ah yeah

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It doesn't even open now

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Before the launcher opened but now it doesn't either

proud anvil
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normal

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wait ima reset the game

candid lake
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I gotta go sorry

night ridge
# proud anvil normal

Keep in mind you do need to make exclusions to your Anti Virus for the Hearts of Iron IV folder to stop having this issue. I cannot help you those kind of DLCs. You are on your own now from this point on

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@candid lake ok

proud anvil
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iam fix it

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thank you so much

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slavy

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you are amazing

night ridge
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Np, hope you can enjoy the game again

proud anvil
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thanks

candid lake
proud anvil
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ive fixed everythin @night ridge

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i am so thankful for everything that u have done

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i am gonna kms

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everything works

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i select a country

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click play

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crash

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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wait

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found someones problem

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nvm

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so

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another problem

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i pick a country

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then click play

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immediate crash

night ridge
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Try a non DLC nation

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and try without those DLCS

proud anvil
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ok

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didnt work

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still crashes

night ridge
proud anvil
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its not disabled

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lemme try it disable

night ridge
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Disable it before you start the game

proud anvil
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and it worked

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wow

night ridge
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Like I said, you have to make exclusions on those folders your Anti virus won't check them, else you will stay in trouble

night ridge
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Np 🙂

paper scroll
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can someone help me? I play as Germany and everytime after i defeated france and did the peace treaty, the game crashes

candid lake
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Why doesn't my Hoi4 work if I uninstall it and revise the files multiple times

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?

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My hoi4 just doesn't open

swift umbra
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Anyone who knows why my game keep crashing?

narrow kettle
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i still cant play mods. can someone help me?

minor flax
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dude

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vanilla update dropped

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your mods probably not compitable?

minor flax
swift umbra
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mine dosent work

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just installed the game

minor flax
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whats your specs and did you installed system components

swift umbra
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eh

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I dont know where to find them

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but i got gtx 1660

minor flax
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videocard not so important, processor is

swift umbra
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Found it Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-9400F CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz

minor flax
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whats your ram

swift umbra
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8gb

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Now i also get this

minor flax
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is this license

swift umbra
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?

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Yes steam

minor flax
narrow kettle
swift umbra
minor flax
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relocate path of your one drive to other place

swift umbra
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how?

minor flax
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relocate it

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move it out from documents to somewhere else

swift umbra
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Ok

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IIve tried to move onedrive

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Dosent seem to work

minor flax
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what you did

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why small screenshot

swift umbra
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?

minor flax
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stop showing shortcuts, show full paths

swift umbra
minor flax
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ok

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now make back up of documents

swift umbra
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wdym

minor flax
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does it have files of paradox games?

swift umbra
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nope

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The files is iin the steam thing

minor flax
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no i mean cache of paradox games

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saves, cache, mods descriptors

swift umbra
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nope

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nothing from paradox

minor flax
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ok

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do you have regular documents folder?

swift umbra
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nope

minor flax
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@swift umbra?

swift umbra
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oh

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I will try

minor flax
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or command promt

swift umbra
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its working now - thank you

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🫡

minor flax
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🤓

minor flax
kindred vortex
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Not exactly
A lot of the colonies split off into their own faction, in the middle of WW2, but the Axis immediately declared on them too
Canada is/was fascist but still in Britain's alliance. So is Australia/New Zealand

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India, most of the Caribbean, and some of Africa split off into their own alliance. Pakistan also separated from Communist India but has not yet joined any alliance.

narrow kettle
narrow kettle
minor flax
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um clear user directory in launcher?

maiden bramble
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anyone else having iisues with mods after the new patch

quiet juniper
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hello i try to launch the game but nothing appears

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idk how to fix it can someone help

faint widget
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anyone know how to fix this, I have uninstalled and deleted everything and installed everything back yet this error just wont go away

minor flax
near nova
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hello I downloaded hoi4 from a site and I also downloaded Paradox, but I do not understand why on Paradox it does not appear hoi4 since I would like to install the mods who can help me?

minor flax
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pirate?

wooden saddle
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Does anyone know why my alienware M16 R2 keep on freezing the screen and forcing me to restart when I play hoi4?

lucid comet
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Is there info about the new relative_force_ratio (or whatever it's called) added in v1.15.
It's used for the Anschluss calculation and also the followup Austrian decision to annex the second chunk of Yugo.

I'm wondering if AUS_political_events.119 is bugged or if the way that relative_force_ratio is affecting the result in some way.

normal lynx
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so for some reason, i cant connect to people when playing online and when i do connect, i cant chose a country

lavish rampart
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i need help pls, my game isnt starting sometimes on steam, and whenever i try to close the game on steam it just will be ´´stopping´´ for a few hours and i cant play hoi4, alot of errors too

swift umbra
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Open windows security

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And then you should allow =

chrome grotto
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[15:06:22][1936.06.28.21][triggerimplementation.cpp:2853]: events/DOD_Romania.txt:1468: has_idea: generic_democratic_reformer is not A valid Idea

Thanks devs

eager delta
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I'm experiencing a crash in vanilla Hoi4, January 1939, as the German Empire. I think it's related to my war with Poland-Lithuania, which is coming to a close. I thought, or maybe still think it could be related to taking a city, or cities (Originally it was January 16th, taking Kleice), but I switched to running the front entirely manually, avoided taking that city, and now it's the 21st and I'm having similar issues taking another province I think. But also the game defintely crashes when I try to check on current wars.

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I've already reverified all files

last flint
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My friend has an issue with downloading kaiser redux guys it stops downloading for some reason all other mods are good i think though

rocky ether
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Hello, I came here to ask you for help. I discovered this game two months ago, it has become one of my favorite games and I have more than 200 hours of play on steam. But from my first hour until now every time I played the game my pc crashed until I turned it off and restarted it. This happened between 10 minutes and 1 hour of play (almost instantly if I shared my screen via discord or obs). However, it's surprising my pc is pretty good, I have 32GB of ram, a good motherboard etc... I tried everything. I asked for help on Reddit and they told me to check the files via steam, it didn't work, They told me to update my drivers, I did it, it didn't work. I uninstalled the game and reinstalled it, I emptied the user directory, I removed the mods, I launched the bug-free mode and now it shows me this (image attached) I introduced friends to the game, we even started a multiplayer game but now I can't even enjoy launching the game... Oh and sorry for my English, I'm a young French guy.

short jay
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@rocky ether Did you try this ?

rocky ether
short jay
rocky ether
short jay
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I think you should use an external driver with a clean windows install and installing the game/playing on it, you'd be able to know if it's software or hardware related

rocky ether
short jay
rocky ether
candid cloak
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im playing with the mod rise of nations and it keeps crashing after loading graphics

lavish rampart
candid lake
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I have one question

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What do I do with this?

mortal sierra
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the game kleeps crashing

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whe ni try to load up ion multiplayer

swift umbra
prisma pumice
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anyone else noticed elephant models cause the game to break visually?

vivid zenith
minor flax
prisma pumice
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I'll try that ty

stoic wolf
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Referring to when I used the nudger and did the silly (states no longer have names) whenever I try to boot up hoi4, it gives me an error saying that there are errors present in the map or something, I've tried disabling the mods (all attempts have been in vanilla) have all dlcs enabled, and reinstalling hoi. Could anyone help?

lusty scaffold
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after the new dlc germany is focusing on the middle east and they literally start operation barbarossa with 30 divisions and half of the border empty, it happened twice out of like 10 games i played

minor flax
vital quail
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anyone know how to fix this

candid lake
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What do I do with this?

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What do I do with this?

short jay
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My save is stuck on editing order... I can't leave the tool nor use any keyboard shortcut... Please tell me my save isn't dead...

river star
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ye with the new update when u do mughal civalwar if u finish it and ur troops are in burma they are stuck and not delete able.

hallow bloom
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plz help

stoic wolf
royal heron
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Why tf is the game launcher glitchy as hell? Constantly turning black every 10 ms or so.

empty holly
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i got a steam deck, and i started up hoi4, it autosaves weekly no matter what i do, it also doesnt let me save manually, the button is grey.

vivid zenith
empty holly
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its always weekly

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changing it to daily works

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but everything else just autosaves weekly instead

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even when i turn autosaves off

vivid zenith
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there was a bug about this a while ago but it's supposed to be fixed

empty holly
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let me boot up hoi4 and see if its still doing it

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still doing the bug

paper scroll
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my game crashes very often, any ideas?

vivid zenith
paper scroll
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road to 56

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for some time i had the german addition mod too, but it wont start with it anymore so now i play in english

keen temple
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What is the current game version?

vivid zenith
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try in vanilla see if it crashes as often

candid lake
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I have some questions

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What do I do to solve this problem?

hallow bloom
candid lake
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Hello?

tiny needle
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you need to disable it for hoi4 otherwise it wont let you load in

modest drift
rain atlas
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im getting validating issues

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literally everytime i try to install anything

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to do with hoi4

polar junco
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Hi there! Yesterday I downloaded the "Graveyard of Empires" DLC and it changed the wallpaper of my main menu. Is there any way to change it again? Because I'm not too fond of it

vital quail
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HOW DO I FIX THISSSS

vivid zenith
vital quail
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N

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can you show me how?

vivid zenith
vivid zenith
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causing the issue

vital quail
vivid zenith
vital quail
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im new and i hav like 0 idea what your talking about

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thats the thing

vivid zenith
vivid zenith
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you should try reinstalling the paradox launcher

vital quail
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ok

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do i delete it from the fiels

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with it

vital quail
vivid zenith
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if it's a launcher issue deleting the game won't help

vital quail
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ok i tried it and it didnt work

vivid zenith
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then idk, you may contact prdx support using Paradox Forums but you may want to simply restart your comuter first, in case

vital quail
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ok ill do that

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i just want to access teh moids

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and put simpole map

paper scroll
compact yacht
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is there any way to make hoi4 mp faster? (like not take 12 hours)

hallow bloom
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anyone can help?

cursive totem
vivid zenith
hallow bloom
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2 times

vivid zenith
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clean wipe the files before installation

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that means mùanual delete

ancient orbit
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Help

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My launcher won’t update

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I’ve checked my WiFi it’s fine

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I’ve reinstalled the launcher many times

wooden saddle
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Does anyone know why my alienware M16 R2 keep on freezing the screen and forcing me to restart when I play hoi4?

vast reef
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Please i need help, i have all the DLCs, even the model and the soviet art, and i cannot use the last version because it keeps saying i am using a modified version, in the launcher it says i am using the Counterance 1.16.0.ca3e (722d) and now i have another one. One more thing that happens is that the buttons dont make sound and the events dont have the respective image

tardy sun
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gotta love how even when set on random the ai still goes historical for no reason

lofty musk
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how can i acess version 1.15? it doesnt show up in the betas section

minor flax
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mm?

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how

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there is must be 1.15.4

ancient orbit
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How do I fix this

weak burrow
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I'm trying to get my friends to join my multiplayer lobby, but their games keep crashing when they try to join.

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We've verifies the game files, restarted, but nothing seems to work.

devout widget
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Turn off all mods, clear cache

latent fox
minor flax
plain prism
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any suggestions what is problem i already reinstall game, install latest Visual C++ and net framework.. and still same problem..

vivid zenith
plain prism
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no mods

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this is fresh new game

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jeez

vivid zenith
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try switching your resolution (fullscreen, windowed, fullscreen/windowed) to something different and try again

vivid zenith
# plain prism jeez

90% of the time, people asking about crashes have mods causing it. It's basically the automatic response when someone doesn't provide the info beforehand

plain prism
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same

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game just dont start..

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i dont understand this f ucking game..

vivid zenith
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you clicking on resume or play ?
Also, remember that even after a reinstallation, steam workshop redownloads mods automatically and enable them by default (as long as you're still subbed to them in the workshop)

plain prism
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this error i'm getting to.

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before i star dowser..

vivid zenith
plain prism
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it wont start from library

vivid zenith
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you clicking resume or play ?

plain prism
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play

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it's fresh new game

vivid zenith
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show me the mod folder to be sure

vivid zenith
plain prism
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this is what i get starting on steam librabry

vivid zenith
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you may also try to bypass the launcher to see if it works that way (although I doubt it will) by going into properties and then selecting the "bypass launcher" in the launch settings

vivid zenith
# plain prism

Make sure to wait for a bit, if you're not on a SSD, booting up the launcher may take some time
I'm guessing you starting from desktop shortcut doesn't work either ?

plain prism
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yes

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i wait like 30 minutes and nothing..

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jus loading

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icon

vivid zenith
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Ok, here's what I think you should do :
1 - Try to bypass launcher (#tech-support message), see if it works
2 - Updates your Drivers and OS
3 - Double checks the mods (through workshop page or launcher) and remove any leftover
4 - Find the exe file for HOI4 and Rclick + Run as administrator. Do the same for the paradox launcher, although you'll be able to close it as soon as it opens (you won't be able to start HOI through the pure prdx launcher)
5 - Verify the game files integrity. Fresh installs may miss folder they don't have access to or won't recreate new links to folders that have been moved
6 - Check your antivirus for false flagging and create an exception if needed

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Do all the steps, don't leave out any because you think it's working as intended. Only stop if one of them fixes it

plain prism
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1 step try

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2 try

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3

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try\

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4 5 try

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😄

vivid zenith
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I know it's boring and annoying to have to repeat the same process over and over but what I do know from 5 years of active support for Prison architect is that often people think they did everything while they stepped over something without noticing because they're getting angry and impatient (and I understand that) but you need to go through all steps to make sure because realistically there's not much else to do

You can always contact paradox support but I'm 90% sur they'll ask you to do this all over as well

plain prism
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ot just uinstall this game and play pirate one 😄

vivid zenith
plain prism
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BUT I DONT UNDERTSAND ONE THING HOW IS IT POSSIBLE WHEN YOU PLAY GAME FOR THE FIRST TIME????? JUST TELL ME HOW.

vivid zenith
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there are a thousand reasons why it could go wrong

plain prism
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and its motivation drops then this happens.. i pay money to play normally.. i'm not paying to solve problems with games.

vivid zenith
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this is from the official paradox support team

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with the error code you're getting

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other solution community-provided is to clean wipe the game https://steamcommunity.com/app/394360/discussions/0/601892242036098616/ <hich I didn't propose if you want to try

hey guys i got this error code and been looking on the internet and just cant find a solution can anybody help ? I am not tech saby so without help I dont think ill be able to figure it out ''The game appears to have crashed or terminated unexpectedly (exit code 3221225477). The issue may be solved by verifying the integrity of your game files a...

plain prism
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i just did this and it's is same..

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man i think i need to forget to play it.. I dont have any motyvation to sit 3-4 hours and thinking that else to do with this game..

woven juniper
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Every time I try load up even base HOI4, it always ends up in this error coming up

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The game freezes and kicks me out showing this error

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I did nothing for it to go like this and have done the basic repair attempts i found on the internet

woven juniper
vivid zenith
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does the game crash after you clicked on "play" or during a game ?

woven juniper
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Ok ok so

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Basically you know where the game is loading

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U-Boat screen

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tanks whatever

vivid zenith
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naval distances making it crash ?

woven juniper
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no

vivid zenith
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because you should know that the screen during loading are random

woven juniper
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on this screen

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ik

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but around a third in

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on the loading screen it dissapears and shows the error

vivid zenith
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that just means it's crashing during loading
any mods in the playset ?

woven juniper
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No I specifically chose no mods

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And I don't have any anyway, since I uninstalled all of them anyway

vivid zenith
woven juniper
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ok

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Nope it just crashed again

vivid zenith
woven juniper
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Let me see actually

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im just waiting for a hoi4 update..

woven juniper
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after updating those

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The game that is

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Wait a second..

woven juniper
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Oh crap wait it's working

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Thanks for that I think it was the OS

west thorn
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is anyone else's game running like shit all of a sudden or am i trippin

vale ocean
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Hello everyone. I hope you all are doing fine on this beautiful day. I had an inquiry I hope to get assistance with. The last few days, I have been getting a terrible amount of ping in HOI4 MP. It is not an issue with my connection, as it is stable and quite fast (See attached image). Today, I tried to make some differences within my graphics settings by lowering them and switching from Borderless Fullscreen to just Fullscreen. Moreover, I turned off my second monitor. At first, I got ~150MS. It was much better compared to the 10-20kMS I have been getting lately. After the fix, my friend and I were able to maintain 150-200MS on 5 speed consistently on vanilla. Following this, I wanted to try how it would work with my second monitor on. It was once again working perfectly fine. Afterwards, I tried to switch to Borderless Fullscreen and restarted my game. Once I did this, I began getting 400-500MS. Although it made no sense to me, I went along with it. I reversed the changes I did and went back to the game. However, I was still getting 400-500MS on 3-4 speed even though I was getting stable ~150MS on 5 speed 10 minutes ago. There have been no internet changes, my internet is stable, and no other changes other than the video settings of the game. Now, we have tried to test the MP using optimisation mods such as "SOO Optimisation" (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2270893555&searchtext=soo+optimisation) and I am getting 350-400MS on 4 speed. No matter what I do, I can not go back to the 150MS. None of this makes sense to me and I was wondering if anyone could help me understand why I have such a big difference in ping whenever I restart my game.

In terms of my PC specs, I have a CPU of 11th Gen Intel Core i5 and a GPU of Nvidia RTX3050 4GB, Windows 11 Pro

undone drift
west thorn
# undone drift nah mine runs like shi too since new DLC

i've got the 9800x3d and it was running like literal butter, i was getting the quite substantial performance drops yesterday idk how it works but could it be that it was being affected by paradox working on a patch cause there was a patch earlier today i'm not sure if that's a thing that happens. but i might just go back to 1.15.4 for now lol

unkempt inlet
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Hey I keep having desynch and "lagging" issues in multiplayer. The other players aren't lagging behind but it will say they are and it will perma pause the game to wait for them to catch up. When it desynchs I try to resynch and sometimes it works but eventually it keeps firing the desynch issue, more frequently as game progresses.

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I checked online and followed directions to remove cache on me and friends games but issue remained. Couldn't find any solution on paradox forums.

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If anyone is willing to help I would really appreciate it.

lilac kelp
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how do i fix connection bug

weak burrow
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Is there a command to remove a nation's ai so it does nothing?

mellow rose
shadow ivy
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I have a bug, I am playing Germany, took out the allies, then the IMRO started doing stuff, "removed" my cores on Central Macedonia, and thrace, then I destryoed them, and now I have cores on thrace and central macedonia

weak burrow
mellow rose
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Lol

mellow rose
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For once imro is bugged in your favour

shadow ivy
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This could work for any nation if im correct

vivid zenith
bitter apex
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Before the game crashes

vale ocean
solid leaf
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I think I have lost my 1946 game... Any tips to get it back, please?

minor flax
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send crash log idk

solid leaf
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where is the helper team 😭 🗣️ 🔥

minor flax
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im serious

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send crash error log

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its in documents/paradox interactive/hearts of iron iv/crashes

vivid zenith
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(pre-GoE DLC)

solid leaf
vivid zenith
vivid zenith
solid leaf
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I think it was a bug of that specific verison tho

vivid zenith
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mods ?

solid leaf
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because it has only happened 2 times with it

solid leaf
thick stratus
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~~how do I change controls? I just need to rebind the middle mouse. ~~
~~my fav mouse doesn't have a middle mouse click that works anymore. (also it's just very uncomfortable with smaller hands to use it generally, that's why it hasn't been replaced.) ~~

reposting in here, googling this isn't super helpful. is this actually just not possible?
rebound in ckb-next. CRAZY i can't do this in-game

stuck otter
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how the nicebro do i fix this lads

native tartan
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i deinstalled hoi and its still not working:/

ivory tapir
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ummm playing hoi4 mp fps map only and..

solid ledge
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u have to deal with it

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but try getting someone else or u to host

honest chasm
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do the x3d amd cpu's do better in paradox games? than the non3xd counterparts? im considering new cpu on am5

plain lantern
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Please help, half of the countries are not displayed in my mod, what should I do, although the half that is displayed is no different from the other half?

plain lantern
minor flax
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теги хоть совпадают?

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скинь файл локи

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@plain lantern

hollow flint
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why my game be lagging when there wars happeing now?
14 fps on a 4070 ti goes crazy x-x

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but it goes back to 60 fps when paused

minor flax
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videocard doesnt matter that much

whole smelt
stiff meteor
hallow mesa
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Hi, I completed the German Civil War but I don't get the message to demobilize the militia divisions, is this a new bug?

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Which I also can't form the holy roman empire since the netherlands accepts the return of the kaiser

spare ruin
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Achievement not firing.

jagged isle
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Can somebody tell me why i have a different checksum in the launcher than in the game? I cant play with a friend because of that

plain prism
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hey can somebody can tell me why i cant save my savegames??

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i'm not playing ironmode

minor flax
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do you have onedrive?

unkempt inlet
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Hey I keep having desynch and "lagging" issues in multiplayer. The other players aren't lagging behind but it will say they are and it will perma pause the game to wait for them to catch up. When it desynchs I try to resynch and sometimes it works but eventually it keeps firing the desynch issue, more frequently as game progresses.
I checked online and followed directions to remove cache on me and friends games but issue remained. Couldn't find any solution on paradox forums.
If anyone is willing to help I would really appreciate it.

steep wharf
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help

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how does one fix this

heavy tree
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please fix cloud saving

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literally should not have to start over just because I forgot to make manual saves

polar junco
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Hi! Is there a way to change the main menu's theme? I recently bought the "Graveyard of Empires" DLC and I'm not too fond of how it looks in the main menu

vivid zenith
vivid zenith
vivid zenith
scenic shoal
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i have enough money

main jasper
# spare ruin Achievement not firing.

I guess EIC isn't India anymore, because you reject staying the Raj and becoming technically a new country.
My uneducated guess. (I agree that this should count and is sad that it isn't the case.)

tacit zodiac
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this is happening to my game which has been crashing alot and i havent been able to play it

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not a single hour

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what is happening

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i tried verifying the files

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deleting the hoi4 folder in paradox interative folder then reinstalling the game

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nothing works

cunning pecan
vivid zenith
plain lantern
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Hello, I ran into a problem, I was making a mod during which I upgraded the flags, but they do not appear, they are displayed in the main menu when the game continues.
I put size: 82x52 in ordinary flags, size:41x26 in medium flags, and size:10x7 in small flags. (files with the .tga signature)

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Which means that "Color cards are currently not supported in TGA images"?

modern shore
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cant play mods anymore and steam says all mods are 0 B. reinstalling mods doesnt help either

surreal fiber
bronze light
#

Yall my 3D unit models are invisible and Idk how to fix it.. Anyone got solutions (I alr checked in the settings and the problem isnt in the settings)

surreal fiber
bronze light
surreal fiber
#

JuiceCat np

heavy tree
#

issues don't get fixed that's assuming they even respond

umbral blade
#

Somebody please help me heart keeps crashing from on steam. I have no mods in. It’s been happening since the graveyard of empires DLC I don’t know what to do. I verify the integrity of the files, but it keeps crashing at loading graphics. It just stutters and then crashes says. I need help. Do I reinstall it?

wooden saddle
#

Does anyone know why my alienware M16 R2 keep on freezing the screen and forcing me to restart when I play hoi4?

modern sage
#

i know, i know, im really funny

plain prism
#

Hey why i cant save game?? I'm not playing iron mode, but i cant save it, then i press save just nothing happens..

vivid zenith
vivid zenith
vivid zenith
tacit zodiac
surreal fiber
fallow pivot
#

So I can’t play the game and I’ve verified integrity of the game files. I turned off all mods. Is there anything I can do?

stoic knot
#

no mods work no matter what I do I uninstalled the game verified game files uninstalled all mods

ruby granite
flint palm
#

My cursor is so big it covers up the top left corner of text boxes is there any way to fix this?

minor flax
#

what about your ingame resolution

steady stratus
#

bro everytime when i try to save a map and when i try to load it it say it is from an older version even though i just save it to cloud, how do i fix it guys

#

how do i fix it someone help

tardy sun
umbral blade
#

Game keeps crashing midway through loading. I’m not trying to load up a safe it keeps doing that even with mod to disabled I reinstalled it. It still does the same thing it’s been happening since the graveyard of empire DLC.

flint palm
night ridge
#

@flint palm do you have screenshots so we know what it looks like?

night ridge
#

Which DirectX version are you using for the game?

flint palm
night ridge
#

In the splash screen game settings. Have you looked at any of these?

#

You might be able to fix your resolution there as well

night ridge
#

And if you set it here to Windowed, does it still go crazy?

flint palm
night ridge
#

And what is your resolution set to when you set it to Windowed?

#

I just tried it with multiple resolutions and it works fine for me in Windowed Mode, but I do change the resolution in the splash screen

flint palm
#

which is my default

night ridge
#

Is the game in Vanilla and how is your Windows DPI set up?

night ridge
#

What happens if you set that lower?

flint palm
#

but I'll try running HOI

#

yeah HOI seems fine now but it comes at the cost of the rest of my computer's display lol

#

is there anyway to change the scale for just the game and not my computer?

minor flax
#

go buy smaller monitor

night ridge
#

Not sure if that also fixesyour zoom level

flint palm
#

I've tried that before it doesn't work unfortunately

minor flax
flint palm
# flint palm

this is what happens to the rest of my computer when I turn it to 100% lol

minor flax
#

your monitor is too big

flint palm
#

its a laptop 😭

minor flax
flint palm
#

graphics={
size={ x=1536 y=864 }
min_gui={ x=1280 y=720 }
gui_scale=1.000000
refreshRate=60
max_refresh_rate=75
fullScreen=no
borderless=yes
shadows=no
disable_3d_model_viewer=no
shadowSize=2048
multi_sampling=4
maxanisotropy=4
gamma=50.000000
vsync=yes
adapter=0
}

I've been checking my settings.txt and it seems my size is really weird

minor flax
#

stellaris have screen resolution mods. lemme check if hoi4 have them

flint palm
#

I think the issue is that the game is using my computer's DPI parameters, so its doing the 250% for the game's UI too

minor flax
#

btw game is from 2016 year and supposed to work on smaller resolution monitors

flint palm
#

probably why

#

I don't think there is a satisfactory fix 😔

past locust
#

what is this

flint palm
stuck widget
past locust
#

Its all good now

stoic knot
stoic knot
#

it was the only mod i installed after i restarted my pc

cold steppe
#

can somebody help me understand why this is crashing on one specific date every time? (its a modded game)

vivid zenith
cold steppe
vivid zenith
cold steppe
uneven rover
#

What should I do?

#

Where is the integrity of the game files inside Steam?

#

Ok now I try to clear my user directory

#

Even if I don’t understand how

#

Yeah even clearing the directory doesn’t work

#

I tried everything but nothing work

jolly spindle
#

My mod is crashing randomly and the error.log is clean. If anyone knows how to debug please tag me here or dm me and i will give more details.

strong crane
#

Anyone try and load up a save you played the night prior and now it just crashes when you unpause? lol

#

Think I'm cooked, probably no fix

strong crane
#

I'm thinking its a corrupted saved and its cooked

#

Tried disabling mods, didnt do anything

jolly spindle
sonic tusk
#

A friend of mine cannot delete/download mods, and they stay within his mods list. Is there anything I can recommend to him?

hidden hornet
umbral blade
#

If I roll back to 1.15 can I play a mod to its latest version? And would it work with the version

blissful gulch
#

My troops wont attack, all bars are full, declared warr and justifiedd war goal, warr support high, asssigned division assigned generals assigned offensive line assigned front line but nothing my troops wont atack followed tutorial and watched you tube guide my troops wont atack

final cloak
blissful gulch
#

Deffinetly not atacking my own land my trops are on the border

final cloak
blissful gulch
#

im japan atacking shanxi

final cloak
vivid zenith
#

You aren't at war, yeah

blissful gulch
#

shit mb

final cloak
#

and call in your puppet (mengkukuo) when u do it

#

zlatan ibrahimovic you are most welcome

blissful gulch
#

my people still arent moving im so confused man im desperate to learn this game but its harder than i thought

blissful gulch
final cloak
#

mengkukuo

#

right click then > call to arms > Sino japanese war (or wtv war it is)

blissful gulch
#

cheers man

blissful gulch
final cloak
final cloak
blissful gulch
#

Cheers

sturdy lotus
#

Can anyone help me how to fix the launcher, I somehow cannot launch it and when I try to download and install it to the original paradox launcher I got this "fatal error during installation"

sturdy lotus
sturdy lotus
fierce gale
#

i’m trying to make new provinces and when i go to the nudge tool and click on database then coastal and it crashes

wild sapphire
#

I desperately need some help with this. I have done a full uninstal and re-instal of Steam, Hoi4, and the hoi4 launcher. Ive tried to find all files regarding hearts of iron and delete them and I still am getting this same error when I bring up the launcher.

Can anyone help at all? Ive played this for ages and this has never happened.

vivid zenith
vivid zenith
# wild sapphire yeah

can you try to bypass the launcher by starting the game in safe mode : in properties select "skip launcher"

wild sapphire
#

It will display running for a few moments but thats all

wanton hamlet
#

bro why is my frontline not matching the front

orchid crystal
cedar flare
#

i was using my firends hoi4 for a long time with steam family (it didnt have the spies update), and now i bought it and it still doesnt have it, how can i get the update?

vivid zenith
grave briar
#

Bug report(?): Ahistorical on Historical Portugal path, Iberian summit focus shows the factions have changed in accord with the factions the Germans and British are in. Problem is the decisions are not coming up once the focus has completed. Effective waste of 70 days and do not see anything from the Spanish side.

vivid zenith
grave briar
#

Ah, Another account to make.

orchid prairie
#

Hello. I'm struggling with R56 mod since I got a Spain Focus Expansion mod and that mod's new focus tree is overwritten by the "Standard Focus Tree" option in R57

#

How do I fix this?

vivid zenith
orchid prairie
#

Alright

exotic brook
#

i was going for the Die, Perfidious Albion! achivement

vivid zenith
#

it doesn't want you to grab it to get it, it needs your puppet or a puppet of your puppet to currently control it
this way, you'll get direct control over the congo

exotic brook
#

i do have belgium puppeted but im not sure about the congo
i had a look at a video and that one had all of belgiums states for the focus instead of the congo

exotic brook
#

never mind,i ate them and it bypassed the focus

wanton hamlet
plucky hare
#

idk if this belongs in tech support or ask for help but I did the imperial fedeteration focus but i didnt get cores on south africa and india

trail epoch
#

hey guys can some please help me everytime I start up the game my sound turns off, how can I fix this. I start up vanilla so no mods

vivid zenith
vivid zenith
plucky hare
vivid zenith
trail epoch
vivid zenith
trail epoch
sacred cosmos
#

Hey could anyone help rq, My pc is kinda buns but either way whenever I try playing on my save its completely fine and smooth when paused but when I unpause it, it starts to freeze every 5-10 seconds then unfreezes and then freezes again

#

I think its because I used a mod that made it so that I have tons of Factories and resources along with a modern tech tree but idk

#

I would apperciate any help thanks

lethal jolt
#

Anyone know how to fix this problem? I found the file but idk how to verify it

copper temple
#

Good afternoon, I live in Russia and recently I've been logging into multiplayer only in observer mode, does anyone know how to fix it?

neat ocean
#

Need Help – Instantly Lagging Behind in HOI4 MP
Whenever I play HOI4 multiplayer with friends, I immediately lag way behind, making it unplayable. My PC is good, WiFi is solid, and single-player runs fine. I’ve tried all the usual fixes—reinstalling, verifying files, clearing cache, etc.—but nothing helps. The only time it randomly worked was when I joined a game years after it had started.

Any idea what’s causing this or how to fix it? Would really appreciate any help!

uncut kite
#

And how about your friends wifi and pc

neat ocean
#

uk

uncut kite
#

And you?

neat ocean
#

he has a better pc than me

#

and im uk

#

and his wifi is 100>

#

so he's good with that

uncut kite
#

100 what

neat ocean
#

MB/s

#

wifi.

uncut kite
#

What speed are you playing on

neat ocean
#

4

uncut kite
#

What is your in game ping

neat ocean
#

mine or his?

uncut kite
#

Well the host’s ping will be 0

neat ocean
#

true 🤣

#

ok

#

like it fluctutates but always really high

uncut kite
#

What’s your wifi speed?

neat ocean
#

i don't acutually host it its another mate

uncut kite
#

So how many mates are there

#

Clearly someone has bad wifi

neat ocean
#

the host and mine are like 100MB/S >

#

Nope all amazing wifi

#

3

#

of us

uncut kite
#

And is this your effective speed or just what the speed test shows

neat ocean
#

both

#

this always used to happen so he stopped playing but yesterday he joined mine and the host game around 1937 and it worked

uncut kite
#

Are you playing with nakama by any chance

neat ocean
#

no problems

#

what's nakama?

#

we play road to 56 mod only

uncut kite
#

The cross platform multiplayer

uncut kite
neat ocean
#

we are all on steam if thats what ur asking?

uncut kite
neat ocean
#

yeah all steam, all same mod

uncut kite
#

In the sense that they add a lot of extra stuff

#

So that could be why

neat ocean
#

yeah but it worked completly fine yesterday with it?

#

and his pc and wifi is better than mine

uncut kite
#

Didn’t you say you switched hosts

neat ocean
#

and it's only him

#

yeah we switched host didnt fix it

uncut kite
#

I thought you switched hosts and it was fine?

neat ocean
#

nono that was with the same host

#

as today

uncut kite
#

Sounds like someone’s wifi is not as good as they thought

#

Or there are other people using wifi at the same time

#

Try running a lean mod

neat ocean
#

checking wifis now

uncut kite
#

And see if it’s better

#

Like for the sake of testing play a super streamlined mp mod

neat ocean
#

mine is 200mbps, the guys who doesnt work is 350 , hosts is 400mbps,

uncut kite
neat ocean
#

simple wifi test

#

google type

#

shii

uncut kite
#

That’s not reliable

neat ocean
#

how would you want us to test it then?

#

all other games work?

uncut kite
#

Well unless you’re also playing paradox games

#

Other games working isn’t a good metric

neat ocean
#

only hoi4 and city skylines 2/1

uncut kite
#

Just play the spot mod mp or some other mp mod that deletes half the countries and simplifies things

#

And see if that runs ok

#

If it does

#

Then wifi is not up to par

neat ocean
#

understood, just weird why it worked yesterday

uncut kite
#

You sure it’s not because of different time of day or someone on the network?

neat ocean
#

i doubt it

#

he had this problem

#

for like 5-6 months

#

never worked till yesterday

#

which he started playing around 6 (it's 8 rn, we tried at 7)

#

and he has no siblings so no other high intensity wifi things on

#

we're doing the mod now

uncut kite
#

Could he be getting throttled

neat ocean
#

what's that?

uncut kite
#

Internet providers restricting wifi speed

neat ocean
#

is there any way to check?

uncut kite
#

Probably but im not expert enough to tell you

neat ocean
#

damn, why can't they just release a hoi5, which is better optimized 🙏

uncut kite
#

Trust me

#

It will be worse optimised

neat ocean
#

noooooo

uncut kite
#

Vic 3 mp was disastrous upon launch

neat ocean
#

life is sad when no hoi works

#

we doing mod now

#

is "Horstorical Multiplayer" good?

uncut kite
#

You can try hmm by chrom

#

I’ve played that one and ik they delete a bunch of stuff

neat ocean
#

not worked

#

his ping is 2600

#

and yesteday it was lower than 200

#

@uncut kite

#

now 4000 ping

#

nevermind 41000 ping

#

mine is 200

uncut kite
#

Hmm

#

Unfortunately I don’t think I can help you with that

neat ocean
#

yikes

#

is there like a proper paradox support?

#

or is his game just gg

uncut kite
#

You can also try the forums

neat ocean
#

tried that, reddit, and now the discord

uncut kite
#

And nothing eh?

#

Is he playing off a laptop?

neat ocean
#

your the only on who responded to everything

#

he's play on a pc i'll get his cpu/gpu

uncut kite
#

My guess is issues with his wifi

neat ocean
#

ryzon 5 3600

#

his wifi is fine

#

42,000ms can not be really the wifi

uncut kite
#

Have him prioritize the app in task manger maybe

#

For wifi and cpu

neat ocean
#

already doing that.

uncut kite
#

Huh

neat ocean
#

he's already doing that for both

uncut kite
#

Quit all apps and stuff too?

neat ocean
#

yeah first thing he tried.

uncut kite
#

Could very distantly possibly be cpu issue

#

But I doubt it

neat ocean
#

what's that?

uncut kite
#

Typed on phone

#

Misspell

neat ocean
#

oh cpu

#

"ryzon 5 3600"?

#

isnt good enough

uncut kite
#

It should be imo

#

Any lag when playing shower speed?

#

Slower*

full delta
#

anyone else game crashing alot?

neat ocean
uncut kite
#

Like turn down the game speed

neat ocean
#

oh

#

wait slower speed

uncut kite
#

If he’s still lagging on 2,3 speed then it’s cooked

neat ocean
#

it is

full delta
#

im naughty UK invading french with a Spy mission for a caolab gov

full delta
#

none of the new dlc

uncut kite
#

Maybe contact their actual customer support

full delta
#

who me?

uncut kite
#

No

#

I can’t help you with your crashes

full delta
marble skiff
#

uh my game is bugged because i tinkered with the beta participation

#

which one do i choose

#

i forgot which I had

stable snow
#

my game is loading pretty slowly despite it being on an ssd, reinstalled, and deleted all saves. while my friend's hoi4 with a similar pc takes about 20 seconds to load, mine often takes longer than a minute or two. what do i do?

sinful wedge
#

when trying to download paradox v2

strange swan
#

My version is 1.16.2.6317 (edae) (s)

Please how to change my version the the regular one (225a). i have no mods, all dlcs disabled and beta is set to none.

whole smelt
strange swan
hexed mantle
#

I've cleared user directory ect tried deleting the game manually but my checksum is still not what it should be

#

this is not in debug mode

#

nor is it with mods

tranquil belfry
#

i keep getting this when i play sheeps mod

#

game crashes after

#

i have disabled all mods besides sheeps mod

#

i have latest version but that shouldnt really matter tho

#

and also this doesnt happen in vanilla or gwr

#

i also verified the game files 5 mins ago

minor flax
#

i guess you know what mod is causing map errors

hexed mantle
#

I just delete via steam then the hoi4 folder

#

I think it's an edited file but i have no idea which one or where it is

#

If so, how do I get steam to ensure when i reinstall won't re-install the edited file and only the original one

tranquil belfry
sturdy lotus
#

For some reason I keep crashing

#

This sh doesn't make sense

sturdy lotus
#

Can someone help me fix this?

#

It crashes everytime I play or open a mod

vivid zenith
hexed mantle
solid ledge
hexed mantle
hexed mantle
solid ledge
#

That are guaranteed to have the right checksum

grand trout
#

how to fix?

#

I have done the integrity of the game files and cleaning the directory from launcher

#

I cannot use any mods

hexed mantle
#

THANK YOU

idle junco
#

I was playing an Ironman game, turned on Toolpack+ to test out something in another save but forgot to turn it off so now my save isn't achievement-compatible even with the mod off. How can I fix this?

wooden saddle
#

Does anyone know why my alienware M16 R2 keep on freezing the screen and forcing me to restart when I play hoi4?

dark agate
#

try to launch the game on dx11 if u arent

uncut geyser
#

Has anyone else had the game ctd when they saved?

#

playing modded but I've never encountered this issue till now

#

new games can save without crashing so i just think its that specific game that is corrupted or something

#

loaded a earlier save in that game and I was able to save without crashing

#

very weird💀

quartz flame
#

can someone help me fix a mod I downloaded

#

it was not identifying the director file earlier but now I think it loads an entirely different mod and it crashes midway through loading?

#

also the mod files keep moving around my computer at random and I think the mod uses a different form of storing itself?

scarlet ferry
#

someone knoe why I can manually save my game?

plucky tundra
#

i have all dlcs but hitlers portrait is blacked out. is that because im in germany?

orchid crystal
#

I thought they got rid of censored portraits, but maybe not

#

Check to see if you have the dlc historical German portraits

sturdy canopy
#

My Italy Ironman Save keeps quitting itself when I try to delete my Puppet American's Marine Template and I don't know why. How would people be able to help me figure it out?

#

I'd REALLY appreciate the help.

#

Please*

#

Okay weird, deleting most of my equipment helped.

hexed mantle
#

Do i just replace steam files with those?

lofty island
#

For some reason I keep crashing at "Loading Database"

  • i verified steam files
  • i have all dlcs, error log is just 100s of lines saying I don't own x DLC
  • I tried launching the game with no mods and then no DLCs, issue still persists
  • I've played HOI on this PC before, just installed it back again
solid ledge
#

alternativly u can hust play it

#

since its the same files

uneven rover
#

It's been about a week and I've tried everything I can but nothing seems to work, I've tried all the things the game says but nothing has worked so I was thinking of deleting it from Steam and reinstalling the app, would that be a good idea?

#

This is the error message that the game displays. I have already tried everything mentioned there.

uneven rover
#

I reinstalled it but it gives me the same problem

fluid notch
#

Does the new update make the game freeze when play as india? cause this is the first time i have game freezes in ages with this game and only as mughal india so far

vocal vortex
#

I have a problem that my HOI4 only runs on 1FPS when I try to create an campain. Can someone help?

gloomy crater
#

Game keeps crashing upon trying to save, does that mean my save is corrupted?

full spear
vivid zenith
gloomy crater
#

What's causing my game to crash? Is it a specific mod? If so which one?

idle junco
#

how to turn on achievements? I accidentally had cheats on an ironman save, how do I edit the files to make the save achievement compatible?

vivid zenith
sick spear
#

Just don’t delete it

uneven rover
#

How can I fix this?

#

This is the message the game displays: "I have tried everything the game suggests, but it doesn't work."

lethal plank
#

Hello, I would like to roll back to version 1.5.4 and i have this error after clicking "play" in steam, what should I do?

real shale
#

Hi, as fascist monarchy poland, i had peace with germany and war with the soviet union. I have bren pushing them back so they no longer have a border witj the axis.

When germany does their focus to go to war with stalin, i got excited but suddenly i realize gwrmany is NO LONGER at war with stalin.

What jappened?

vivid zenith
real shale
#

Thry bamboozled the finns then because THEY went to war. 🤣

hexed mantle
vocal vortex
#

I have a decent PC and I already have played over 1k Hours on Hoi4 and had never any problems but since a few days after Gravyard of empires released my game suddenly only run on 1FPS after I try to create a new File and I already tried to reinstall it and delete all my mods so I dont know how to fix it

remote summit
sullen spoke
#

Hello, someone know why my game crash and then the crash report says this ? Can anyone help me fix it please.

lethal plank
idle junco
#

How do I make my save file achievement compatible?

alpine shard
idle junco
# alpine shard Dissable any mods that lock them

All my mods are achievement and ironman compatible. The problem is I turned on a toolpack mod so I could test something in another save, but I forgot to turn it off so now my save file is no longer achievement compatible

idle junco
alpine shard
paper hill
vivid zenith
eternal elk
#

I cant use the launcher how could i chnage the language ?

surreal fiber
pulsar wasp
#

whenever i try pressing the button the menu pops up for half a millisecond and goes away

#

can't create any new airwings

carmine loom
#

someone help me with this ??

hasty mulch
#

Made a mod, uploaded to steam to test if it works, and everything that i made and specifically put into the mod, doesnt appear. please help

dusky mirage
#

Yo devs there is an issue where Italy after the civil war just balkanizes if they go democratic or communist. Any plans on fixing that?

#

like very often

gloomy crater
#

How do I figure out what mod is causing my game to crash repeatly?

vivid zenith
vivid zenith
vivid zenith
gloomy crater
vivid zenith
lusty nest
storm lantern
#

hellos guys do you know how to fix pls ?

#

no mods

opal idol
#

It is just me or when I over my mouse on the top left, it switches to the windows cursor instead of the hoi4 one
sometimes that happens
does anyone know why?

vivid zenith
opal idol
stoic knot
#

my wifi is working fine so what is the right move here btw mods do not work except for black ice

dusky mirage
paper hill
vivid zenith
chrome ocean
#

i tried to reinstall HOI4 after uninstalling it due to mods being in my files that i've unsubscribed from but were taking up almost 200GB of space before i did my first uninstall (I GENUINELY DON'T KNOW HOW THIS IS POSSIBLE) and when i started reinstalling the game, THIS keeps happening. it has been trying to get minimalistic battle plans, a mod i have NO memory of subscribing to on the workshop EVER, and this is the 7th time i'm going through this, i cleared temporary files, download, i even deleted the mod folder etc. i tried doing it in the game files and paradox folders too. (I AM EXPERIENCING ERROR 220 FROM REGULAR SHOW AT THIS POINT)
I have deleted all the files in content, downloads and temp, they all had over 39GB of mods in them, but it keeps coming back.

chrome ocean
#

it just happened again

chrome ocean
#

Okay so basically i went through my files and deleted any file or folder i found that contained the HOI4 ID

#

it kind of worked, but where did the extra GB come from?

chrome ocean
#

maybe

#

but god this was such a headache to deal with

#

if anyone else has issues with it, just delete every folder in steam and your user profile on your system that has the HOI4 ID

#

file too

#

because i scoured youtube, this server and steam discussions for help and nobody had the issue i was having

full spear
hexed mantle
#

where can i find the og game files, i accidently edited or modified one of them

#

i have cleared user cache

#

no mods

#

uninstalled reinstalled

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and deleted the hoi4 folder after uninstall

hexed mantle
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last time someone sent me a link to a Russian piracy website haHaa

surreal fiber
surreal fiber
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Road to 56 needs the newest version

thorn crown
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How do i find leader portraits in the files

halcyon wave
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this has been the same for ten minutes

vivid zenith
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also check the steam download page to see that you're downloading the hoi4 patch (the mod)

halcyon wave
vivid zenith
halcyon wave
vivid zenith
halcyon wave
vivid zenith
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if there's any hoi4 update waiting, start them

halcyon wave
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disk space is pretty uhh... loaded up

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alright finally

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cleared it up

full spear
idle junco
alpine shard
lofty badge
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I get this crash whenever I open my custom national focus tree
there are no errors relating to it in any of the other log files, I checked

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#modding message said focus tree is posted here, I fixed some issues with it though

gloomy crater
gloomy crater
full spear
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also, my launcher just does not work

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i have to manually go into the files to open hoi

prisma pine
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The game Said FUDGE off to me ;) cant get my ach ;( thx for that one

inner lotus
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So i play HOI4 on a Surface Pro 7 and turns out on multiplayer i have a whopping 10,000 ms so is there any way i can improve this

sinful wedge
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hi

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my computer wont let me install paradox launcher

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it says "the administator has put in restrictions to not allow this activity", or something like that

prisma pine
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and is it a home pc?

smoky parrot
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when i click play on hoi4 and use the launcher it crashes and doesnt let me play, but if i skip the launcher it does. im fine with this but its using a mod that i dont want to use, and if i try to use the paradox launcher i cant add HOI4 to it, what do i do?

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im on steam btw

prisma pine
smoky parrot
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i click on play and and it just crashes

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unless i skip the launcher

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the game works fine but idk why the launcher just doesnt open

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ill try reinstalling it

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im verifying integrity rn tho

prisma pine
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if u can

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Clear cache on hoi4

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Documents\Paradox Interactive\Hearts of Iron IV and delete the cache-folder

smoky parrot
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yh i verified integrity but still doesnt work ill try clearing cache

vivid zenith
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also, if it crashes when you click on play with a mod on, it's definitely a mod issue

vocal vortex
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My game only runs on 1FPS after I start a campaign and I do not how to fix it. Can anyone help?

uncut helm
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Hellos👋 Could I please get help with this

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It won't let me deploy my divisions on any of my provinces despite most of them being cores and/or being connected to my capital

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(I'm playing as monarchist lithuania)

vivid zenith
median root
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hi, pls heeeelp🙏 i don't see my ID on the host, what should I do about it?

raven ridge
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linux users, does the game run better native or through proton?

ancient orbit
pulsar reef
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This has been driving me wild. Maybe someone here can help. When I host a lobby, the server id is blank. My friend can not see my server either. But if he hosts, I can find his server and join it no problem.

We have no dlc and only the Road to 56 mod

formal halo
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I think its softlocked bugged since Im not re-integrating anything

stone warren
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playing as czechs and puppeted them and added reperations, however antwerpen was occupied for a second and than i saved them but for some reason that took away my claims on their resources and the factories for war reperations in that previously enemy occupied province

unreal fjord
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hoi4 won't start running steam says im running it
paradox launcher started, and then i get prompted to restart it because it "updated" itself
once i ve done that it completely broke
the problem is with the pdx launcher, the game launched directly works

unreal fjord
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and WM

raven ridge
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Native works for me

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Except some mods don't

raven ridge
unreal fjord
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damn

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i cant really help here

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i used kde

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xwayland

unreal fjord
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i think it s sniper (2)

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or scout (1)

raven ridge
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I'm fine with native

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I don't really need those mods

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The ones I've tried that don't work are just graphical

unreal fjord
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i have a problem that i didnt manage to find a fix yet

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i cant open the pdx launcher i can only launch the gsme directly

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i only managed to open it once, after the first time

raven ridge
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Tried running on x11?

unreal fjord
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after i deleted all config files from pdx

unreal fjord
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im using hyprland now

raven ridge
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Proton or native?

unreal fjord
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i also have a problem when im using fullscreen (from hypr) the game kinda stutters

unreal fjord
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proton doesnt really make a dif to me

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not noticeable at least

raven ridge
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Does the launcher not work on proton either

fluid granite
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i probably should have posted this here lol

unreal fjord
unreal fjord
raven ridge
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I did have a similar issue with eu4 though from Epic Games Launcher

unreal fjord
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i can only launch

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the pdx launcher

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once

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the first time