ask-for-help-here

[neat widget]

Okay I have no clue how your units got to balikesir

[velvet arch]

i need some help with offensives and stuff

😇

i gotten german casualties to 1.5 million but im struggling with making breakthroughs and encirclements

[lucid torrent]

You need tank

[velvet arch]

k

[hoary glen]

What kinda infantry do you have? In the south you attack with 15 units on one tile, that's terrible bc if you click into that battle you'll see that you're only in the battle with like 2-4 Divs while the other wait and only reduce your stats bc there is a over stacking mechanic for tiles.

[velvet arch]

normal infantry and some mountaineers

[uncut narwhal]

whats the templates?

also

always attack from at least 2 sides

[scenic nacelle]

Why no frontline?

[noble frost]

Why in the meta the naval invasion attack bonus should be around 50% ? Why not more? Is there a cap?

[vital plinth]

Should destroyer be full topedos or only very cheap ?

And the BBS I make them full heavey guns or am I doing it wrong ?

[uncut narwhal]

iirc after +50% it doesnt do anything

[hoary glen]

Correct. The max attack debuff is -50% from 0% Naval Attack. So going above 50% no longer does anything in combat. (It doesn't turn into an attack buff)

[noble frost]

I thought it will be a bonus🥹

[hoary glen]

Sadly not

[turbid ingot]

can i make my military attack from the ocean?

[visual dove]

So....no Pioneers on Naval focus?

[scenic nacelle]

Like the small minor operation of d-day?

Yeah

[warped osprey]

How to download mods im installing HOI4 and I wanna play The Great War Redux

[uncut narwhal]

naval invade

[dusty sandal]

head to the steam workshop, subscribe to mods you like, always check that they're updated and compatible with other mods
then, in the launcher, select the mods you want to enable while keeping an eye out for compatibility and version issues

[warped osprey]

Kk can you tell me that tmrw i gotta sleep imma get ur dms so I can ask whenever i wanna install a mod alr?

[serene karma]

U can always ask here

[warped osprey]

So I want great qar redux

[serene karma]

I assume u bought hoi4 from steam?

[warped osprey]

Yup

With no comp

Though like

Code

Activation

[serene karma]

Use steam workshop

Search great war redux

[warped osprey]

Alr

[dusty sandal]

you know you can just copy the link of that message or take a screenshot or whatever to see it later on
and please, as stated in my profile desc, no friend request for in-game help

[warped osprey]

Alr ty for help bgw what mode would you advice me to play first cuz im not rlly familiar with em

[dusty sandal]

I wouldn't advise any mod until you learn how the game works (at least the basics) to be honest

[warped osprey]

I wanna play mods tho

I knew abt hoi4 ftom mods

Like KX

TNO

[serene karma]

U should understand the basics first before trying those

Its going to be too overwhelming without doing so

[dusty sandal]

Look, you play as you like but you're asking for my advice, and the thing is, you probably won't enjoy the mods if you have no idea how everything works, let alone if mods add specific mechanics

[warped osprey]

I saw ppl play hoi4 like blitt3rsteel and ik how to play ig

Can you tell me the best mods

[dusty sandal]

you can just sort the workshop by most subscribed or best ranks
There is no "best mod" in the absolute sense
the most extreme in terms of depth and game building is probably euestria at war, but I don't really like it
same as kaiserredux or kaiserreich, I don't really like them even though they're basically worshipped by the average joe

My favorite mods are TFB and oak which are MP-focused mods

[uncut narwhal]

the "best" ones are probably kaiserredux and something like road to 56 or tno/twr

[iron veldt]

@uncut narwhal do you use space marines

[uncut narwhal]

not really

[iron veldt]

is it good still

[vital plinth]

Hey question do I get more stockpile if I annex my puppet or is it only 50% ?

[turbid ingot]

how that work, when i use it it always says no army assigned

[uncut narwhal]

then assign divisions to the plan

[uncut narwhal]

ofc

[turbid ingot]

they start walking over land tho

[uncut narwhal]

wdym?

[turbid ingot]

when i assign it they js start walking over land i think

[uncut narwhal]

send a ss of the situation

[turbid ingot]

oh nvm i think it worked

[hoary glen]

Wrong, you want to use them so you can add more other stuff than Marines into the div. Like Tanks or Mountaineers, something with stats.

[vital plinth]

Is there a way to get China to help me with axis war ?

[visual dove]

So the ye Olde meta of Mountaineers + Marines got more amazing?

[keen hemlock]

Wdym

[iron veldt]

no

do they have a facist path?

[keen hemlock]

Yeah

[visual dove]

Last game I had, the entirety of the Chinese factions joined the Axis

Yeah they all got wiped tho lmfak

[hoary glen]

Always good 😊

[iron veldt]

put the chinese on a facist path

[visual dove]

Even Sinkiang joined the Axis, I'm not even joking.

[keen hemlock]

Were they a puppet

[visual dove]

Not even a puppet lol

[keen hemlock]

wtf

[visual dove]

They all got too busy fighting the CCP, maybe that's why they joined the Axis

[keen hemlock]

I don’t think communist nations can join the axis

[visual dove]

Because the CCP joined Comintetn

[keen hemlock]

Unless Germany invites them

[visual dove]

Sinkiang is a different story that is

[visual dove]

I think the reason why is because AI differs

This was after Japanese invasion btw, so now it's back to civil war

So China Communist joined COMINTERN against Axis and China Chang

Then the rest of the Chinese factions joined the Axis

[keen hemlock]

Ah

I need to try the ccp

Sometime

[vital plinth]

After beating Japan to help with fighting axis

[serene karma]

I dont believe u will know how to play/win from watching vids alone

U need to try it

[sick ginkgo]

SPGs or tanks or modern tanks?

[keen hemlock]

Oh

Ur the Allie’s

[vital plinth]

Is this fine for rangers ? Or should it be different?

[keen hemlock]

They alr have their own faction so

I doubt

[vital plinth]

Ah fair

[warped osprey]

Check dms if u can i explained

[keen hemlock]

But they will fight the ccp and they might join the comentern

[serene karma]

Spgs

[sick ginkgo]

Okay, thanks

do i really need easineses in use (2nd engineer research thing) and armorshirts?

[keen hemlock]

Easy maintaine

No

[sick ginkgo]

oh yeah

english is my native language so i didnt know the thing

[keen hemlock]

You can just use wet ammo storage

No problem

[sick ginkgo]

like i considered running wet ammo storage and radio for breakthrough

[vital plinth]

How is this template or does it need more width?

[scenic nacelle]

Why can’t u just say why here

[warped osprey]

I closed the game while it was running and now its stuck on stopping

Yeh

Im dumb

I need help with that

[warped osprey]

Here

[scenic nacelle]

What

[serene karma]

Why here

[warped osprey]

Can ya help me with this

My game is now locked on stopping

[keen hemlock]

Send what you need help with

[warped osprey]

Well

Im dumb and i closed game when it was running

[serene karma]

Task manager

[warped osprey]

I cant stop it now

[keen hemlock]

I had this with some other games a while ago

Just close out all of steam

From task manager

Worked for me

[warped osprey]

Kk

[dusty sandal]

ctrl+alt+supr -> task manager -> find hoi4 and end its task
I recommend pinning task manager to your hotbar too

[keen hemlock]

Supr?

[scenic nacelle]

Ahh makes sense

[keen hemlock]

Didn’t know there was a key that made me a superhero

[warped osprey]

Yo TYSM

Now im loading TNO

[scenic nacelle]

Anything but learning the game first 💔

[turbid ingot]

Im fighting the french and switzerland rn and i cant seem to get through their defense idk why

[warped osprey]

What german path to play first in TNO

Borman?

Guring?

Or Avg-Liberal-Speer

I won't mention the last cuz I dont want to play the hardest path for germs

[vital plinth]

How is this template for forest and jungle do I need to add more lines ?

[dusty sandal]

is it for defense or offense ?

[vital plinth]

Offense

Im planning for 48 divisions for attack

First in Asia then Africa

[dusty sandal]

then it needs to be 32, 33, 35 or 36width
(35 is probably best)

it NEEDS breakthrough, that means medium flame tank and light tank recon are basically mandatory, or at the very least one of the two
you're likely gonna need AA too, ideally just 1 line AA

use flamethrower 2 on both tanks once you have it
don't bother with the speed, you'll be stuck at 4km/h
using the 4brk from suspension is probably better if you can afford it

[vital plinth]

Is this for multiplayer or single player ? The AI seems very weak with normal infantry

Not many planes in Asia being used weirdly is it because I’m not using mods ?

[dusty sandal]

it's a universal rule : want to attack without a ton of CAS over your head ? you need breakthrough

or you'll struggle for your life on each tile provided the enemy can fill the combat width

[tired surge]

ive started playing like 2 days ago is there any way to actually learn the game?

i have literally 0 idea on whats going on

@dusty sandal sorry for pinging u, u seem to know the game well!

[dusty sandal]

play slow, pay attention to alerts and icons on the map
something red ? probably want to check it out
see an orange icon ? it's there for a reason
Dunno what a buff does ? Read the tooltip that appears when you hover over it
About to do something ? Ask yourself why you're doing it. If you can't find a proper reason, reconsider

best way to learn this game is play it while paying attention and reading the info it tells you. Nearly everything has a tooltip that appears once you hover over it that explains what it does and, in the case there isn't, you can very much find the info only as there are numerous tutorials and threads about it, just don't trust 100% everything you read as there are common misconceptions that are spread around the community
(such as thinking that a div made of 1 cav batallion set as garrison template will do worse than a div made of 30 cav batallions set as garrison template)

[tired surge]

oo i see what nation do u suggest i play as rn?

[lament mason]

how exactly does IC work and where can I see how much I have

[dusty sandal]

Also, play exclusively historical and follow what your focuses do (no wacky stuff with manual justification and such) until you have learned the basics of the game.
US and canada are good picks because you're safe so you have a lot of error margin
Germany is a good early-action pick where you can do everything but you can die if you don't pay attention
soviets are good too, but way more focused on land and no air builds, although you'll probably need to do some reading to understand the purges

[tired surge]

say i want to paly germany how do i actually win wars and stuff?

[dusty sandal]

IC is a general term brought on from hoi3 to indicate the cost of something
each equipment, each building has a value of ic and each factory, whether being a civ or a mil or a dockyard produces IC daily
it's all displayed when you hover over the production

[dusty sandal]

build up the economy, follow the focuses, plan ahead, get divs out, get some air power (focus on fighters first. If you have By Blood Alone DLC, don't build your own, aim for designs pinned here or you'll get assblasted by the AI. There is little to no margin in this case) then declare war with the focuses that give you the ability to

[tired surge]

im letting u know i am starting with pretty much 0 info on the game all ive seen is how to navigate the uis. how should i build my economy?

[dusty sandal]

basics are : you have civilian factories (civs) that build other factories ; military factories (mils) that build equipment
you want to start building mils about 3 years before the war, meaning that for germany you need to stop building civs by mid 1936 at the latest

that's the standard, there are variant such as civgreed (build civs later on) or milgreed (build mils very early). In the end, it's all a balance between scaling (more civs) and more equipment for war (mils)

for more in depth guides there are tutorials pinned in the comments here, it's the same principle since the start of the game : you want more factories to build more factories and equipment to field more and better armies to invade land

[tired surge]

ohhh i seeeee

so not as complex as ive thought

[dusty sandal]

hoi4 probably has one of the most easy economy mechanic, the complexity of it comes for the different buffs you can get from your economy laws, focuses, advisors and how to use them adequately

[tired surge]

yes ive been super confused on focuses

i used to play civ 6 and thought it would be easy to step into hoi4

i was mistaken

[dusty sandal]

focuses are a basic : Select and wait for x buff(s) or ability to do x
it's like a mission tree in EU4 or timed events in CK

[tired surge]

i see

[tired surge]

is there a way to see the land of a conflict mid war? lets say im at war with poland and im a few weeks deep is there a way to see how much i invaded/last

[quick rapids]

how to get more units?

[dusty sandal]

right click on your country will open the diplomacy view, you'll see invaded land is slightly greener color

[dusty sandal]

need more factories with more production buffs to produce enough equipment
you also need enough manpower to train

[dusty sandal]

https://youtu.be/QvHT121_lWQ

[indigo drift]

whats the greece meta?

[vital plinth]

Ah ok so wait flame thrower on both ? Isn’t the light tank normal gun as in picture ?

Any idea why AA ? My personal experience against ai it doesn’t use much planes or bombers only some figthers only Europe I see it use planes , do I need a mod to make it use its plane more and harder to break through?

[keen hemlock]

Either form Byzantium

Or hold out vs Italy

[keen hemlock]

Is stabilzier good for these or does it have some secret downside

[lament mason]

which carrier doctrine is best for japan

[austere roost]

sortie efficiency is the most important because it dictates how many carriers can send planes in combat

[dusty sandal]

flamethrower 2 gives breakthrough
you desperately need brk on attack inf

[dusty sandal]

AA has dual purpose of piercing AI tanks and reducing enemy CAS damage
if there's none of these threats out there, you don't need it

[dusty sandal]

it's good, but there's no point going for 1940 electronic tehc but that. IT's not really worth the research time

[vital plinth]

Ok makes sense 👍

[keen hemlock]

i always go for research speed

[dusty sandal]

the first 2 techs are good, 3rd one is niche at best

[vital plinth]

Do you know what decies if an ally wants to give control of state i desperately need mills but UK is just keeping the areas in Asia for itself that are not its core

[keen hemlock]

ah

ok wait

nvm

[dusty sandal]

war participation

[vital plinth]

And second question I have 0 aluminum and barely anything is being traded to me I tried spies and increasing trading influence but still I’m minus 50 can’t get more it’s being traded to others and the Allie’s are having limited export

USA is facist in Allie’s and is only trading few aluminum

[austere roost]

They're not there for research speed purposes. You research them for radio, cryptology, radar, and fire control purposes. Which is why you only need first two if you don't do navy

[dusty sandal]

trade influence system isn't really straightforward, you only have very limited margins

[keen hemlock]

wait they affect radar and fire control research?

you learn new thing every day

[austere roost]

They're prerequisites

That's why you take them. The research speed part takes like 9 years to break even if you're 3 slot and 6 years for 4 slot

[keen hemlock]

ah

40 radar needs 40 computing?

[austere roost]

No

You need first tech to do radar tech

That's it

Just look at the tech requirements

I have dynamic research mod and even with 8 tech slots it takes 3 years to break even

[keen hemlock]

ah ty

[indigo drift]

im talking abt what to build

[drowsy holly]

i wanna learn hoi4 but its super frustrating and i rage quit cause i dont understand anything. just looking at the ui makes my brain melt, can anyone help me ?

[keen hemlock]

prolly just an inf wall with mountianeers

stronghold network

state aa

[drowsy holly]

how do you guys not get overwhelmed when playing this game

[hoary glen]

In the pins there's some posts to help new players

[hoary glen]

Try, fail, know why I failed, restart, fail something else until you're successful

[drowsy holly]

I rage quit after 15 minutes

Cause i get overwhelmed and dont understand anything

[hoary glen]

I enjoyed learning and getting better over time, so I guess it's different for me

You can try to play something like Australia or Canada. It's more chill and less pressure on you

Turn on Historical AI on and stay on the historical path (loyal to Britain + democratic)

[feral grove]

How do I use mod Road to 56 without using steam and launcher?

[vital plinth]

Oh hmm i can’t build much planes then Germany has 25 k and i have acesss to very low aluminum or cant import much of it im playing as India

[keen hemlock]

are you use non strategic materials useage

[vital plinth]

What’s that ?

[uncut narwhal]

module for planes

[keen hemlock]

moduele

it lowers how much allu and rubber you nee dby 1

or you could just do the conversion exploit

[quick rapids]

wait guys how to attack from the sea like im united kindom and i wanna attack netherlands

[keen hemlock]

Naval invasion

[quick rapids]

yeah how do you do it

[vital plinth]

Ah and convert later for armor frame ?

[vital plinth]

Thx Will try this then 👍

[keen hemlock]

Plan it, get naval superiority, launch

https://youtu.be/GiMFUVCpmkM?si=UYqJqdPDHArz38Cb

[daring gorge]

how do i make them accept?

[fathom thistle]

you dont, especially when they have strategic reasons against you

[daring gorge]

whyt do they have against me

[fathom thistle]

usually that means they have focus that gives them war goal against you down the path

or something that they want from ya

[daring gorge]

so do i just conquer them?

[fathom thistle]

yeah

[meager pier]

do tanks work best with motorized or mechanized?

[sand ember]

Mechanized

[topaz goblet]

Hello everyone
Did you got a problem that
The system count USSR defeat the Germans even the red army still suffer in Poland and you hold the German core?

[lunar notch]

can you elaborate further

[hoary glen]

Move the mod files into the game files and replace all similar files. But tbh if you need to ask about this I can't recommend to you trying it

[vital plinth]

What does armored train and railway gun do ?

[sand ember]

Armored trains are trains that are harder to destroy
Railway gun gives combat buffs in a radius around it

[lunar notch]

with elevated engineer corps, you get neat bonuses to railway guns

[sand ember]

Or debuffs the enemy ig depending on how specific you want to be

[hoary glen]

If you're playing Allies and did the yalta conference it's a scripted peace deal

[violet maple]

hey guys me and the HOI4 team decided to put the game on a 70% discount so i advise to buy it right now

we wont be doing these types of discount anymore

[lunar notch]

people in this server probably already has the game

[topaz goblet]

I am doing an achievement
Ask me to capitulate the Fascist Germany........
And after the Nazi was defeated
some land in Austria just show under control of USSR
But the red army was still in East Poland at that time

So I guess it means the system count the USSR capitulate The Germany while they don't got even one victory points from Germany

[vital plinth]

Are they worth it ?

I also have issue with getting through river crossing I don’t know how best then back from it

[cold bloom]

Try calling them in from the war screen

[balmy merlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ue6BRtwykU.

[tired surge]

do u suggest while i play to watch a tutorial or figure out stuff myself?

[elfin perch]

why are they not attacking?

[drowsy holly]

are there any good beginner playthroughs that walk you through what to do im new to this game

[keen hemlock]

Do you have air superiority?

[elfin perch]

yes

[lusty basin]

why cant i edit the mountaneer template?

[iron veldt]

are your transport planes deployed on the airbase they are standing on

[iron veldt]

screenshot

[iron veldt]

watch bittersteel on youtube

[ashen marten]

Okay so im playing as PLC (originally Lithuania) and Germany went to war with the allies, i declared on them, took a lot of territory but couldnt join the allies faction, anyways was just about done as we were attacking Italy.

Suddenly the "Italian leader deposed" came up and then the Italian civil war popped

So the Italian resistance guys went to me as a subject but for SOME REASON wound up at war with the allies, dragging me into a war with the allies that im not ready for

Is there anyway to stop the italian resistance guys from being at war with the allies? i do not have the military to fight them, and i have a save right before the civil war pops but thats it.

[drowsy holly]

his video is 5 years old

[uncut narwhal]

bittersteel isnt good btw

[iron veldt]

i think he explains game mechanics well for beginners

[uncut narwhal]

he uses line arty

[iron veldt]

& he’s honest sometimes about not being optimal

true

[elfin perch]

yea

[iron veldt]

is china in the war

[iron veldt]

watch his guides he still uploads

[elfin perch]

yes

[iron veldt]

do you have 600 transports

[tired surge]

if im learning to play and choose germany. (im brand new) should i play and follow a strict tutorial or just learn the game by playing

[iron veldt]

try both

[elfin perch]

1200

[tired surge]

elaborate?

[iron veldt]

do a germany play through see how you do

then watch a germany guide

[tired surge]

oooo okay okay thanks!

[iron veldt]

idk just make a new paratroop order😭

[elfin perch]

tried 3 times lol

[iron veldt]

screenshot your air superiority

[meager pier]

holy

[iron veldt]

also you’re the US just delete japan navy

[elfin perch]

idk how, they dont reach there

[iron veldt]

ohhh

you need air superiority over the waters too

the tiles the red line goes through

you only have it on japan

[tired surge]

actually if im brand new should i play germany or someone else?

[elfin perch]

oh...

i will try

[iron veldt]

france, ENG, italy (not imo), & germany are good starting nations

[tired surge]

if u had a favorite who would u chose?

[iron veldt]

idk why it didn’t say that when you hovered over the green arrow

[iron veldt]

probably france…

[inner sparrow]

this is horrible btw, segls is better

[iron veldt]

idk

[hoary glen]

You have Divs with the template in the field and it will put you above the SF forces cap

[vital plinth]

I finished jet engine and axial engine but why can’t I use more than type 2 jet engine?

It just gives the same thrust as level 5 normal engine

Im a bit confused

[twin kayak]

:)

1st time surviving the germans

[tired surge]

genuinely what the hell 😭

whyd u leave france alone

take france

[twin kayak]

it's planned

I just want to have a good airforce

since I'll have to fight the allies

[tired surge]

im starting my first ever solo gameplay lets see how this goes

playing germany

[iron veldt]

good luck

[tired surge]

thanks bossman

[iron veldt]

don’t give up caused you get confused lmao

[twin kayak]

1st solo play ? did you only play multiplayer or what ?

[tired surge]

uh oh whats this?

[twin kayak]

Or have you just bought the game

[tired surge]

i mean i played by tutorials before i am 2 days into the game!

[twin kayak]

Well, good luck. Don't forget naval bombers

to defeat the pesky brits

[tired surge]

idek how to use airforce but thanks

[twin kayak]

I struggled with germany at the start

And you'll too if you take the mefo bills path

if you take too long, your economy just collapses

[tired surge]

idk what mefo bills are but all ik is they are very noticeable

[twin kayak]

you can cancel them

I started doing that

[tired surge]

should i tho?

[twin kayak]

You get recovering economy, but you don't have the annoying mechanic

[hoary glen]

It should give more speed

[twin kayak]

you don't need to. If you know what you're doing, it's pretty easy to get to the autarchy archieved focus

[jade jewel]

So I'm playing the netherlands and I am part of the axis. Shortly before germany took luxemburg. After that I took belgium and northern france. Is there any way to somehow trade for luxemburg so I can get the united netherlands?

I already asked if they might just give it to me but that didn't work as expected

[iron veldt]

you can ask for territory

oh

[cinder plinth]

how can i learn the game?

im too lazy to watch 40 hours of just tutorials

only to remember nothing

[jade jewel]

Something about having an unfair share

[wind canyon]

well play a game of germany

[cinder plinth]

i genuinely didnt think it would be this hard

so many mechanics

civilian factories military factories

[vital plinth]

Should I change my advanced frame to moderen ? Or wait for super sonic jet ?

[cinder plinth]

offensive lines

and all that

[vital plinth]

What’s the difference between the 2?

[cinder plinth]

bro i cant take ethiopea with italy in tutorial mode let alone play germany

[wind canyon]

then its best to watch a tutorial video if you need to type down notes

[cinder plinth]

i dont learn from videos tho

[wind canyon]

then perhaps watch youtubers play it? for me watching an entraining hoi4 video is what got me to learn what to do

and my friends throwing me into an mp match the first time i got it, didn't help

but it was funny and allowed me to recognize things i needed to work on

[wind canyon]

if you don't want to watch a video sure but play a game and make a note on whats confusing you

most tutorial videos have time stamps on just about anything

so you skip to that part that you need to find out

[cinder plinth]

yeah i kinda do that

[wind canyon]

like this, one makes guns the other makes more buildings

[cinder plinth]

okay sounds good

[wind canyon]

and of course of the videos dont help

[cinder plinth]

well thank you very muchj for the help

truly appreciatecd

[wind canyon]

feel free to ask here

or me

[cinder plinth]

okay

[wind canyon]

anyways good luck

[jade jewel]

So? Is there any way or do I just have to keep playing like this?

[scenic nacelle]

All u can do is ask

Literally

[jade jewel]

Is there any way to improve my chances of getting it?

[teal ether]

Hey, Can anyone help me learn the game? I have played it many times before, but I just feel like a complete beginner... I might just be misunderstanding things... Idk, but can someone join the Helping Lounge VC to help me out... I'd like an experienced partner I can learn with

Also, I might sound a bit younger (As I have been told many time in the past), but I ensure that I am 15

[wind canyon]

perhaps imporove relations with germany?

[wind canyon]

cant talk as of rn but i can try and help what do you need to know?

[teal ether]

My main concern is winning wars

I'm absolutely trash when it comes to combat and wars

[wind canyon]

okay what specifcally when it comes to that?

[teal ether]

Lemme use an example, so I have played the commanders mod a couple times... And I have done 2 1v1s before, and lost both. Ig it's either that I don't understand Division Templates, or that I don't know how to encircle, or something completely different.

[wind canyon]

im not familiar with this mod but let me take a vanilla example

when you go against say, the allies as Germany what happens?

[teal ether]

Uhh, I kind of haven't done it before, cause I get worried that I'm just gonna lose

[wind canyon]

its only a game brother nobody is gonna judge that harshly especially since your new

[teal ether]

But, I have done and Italy playthrough and barely won against Ethiopia... Hope that shows my complete noobness

[cold bloom]

Giving them French states might nudge them to agree, as it reduces your share

[teal ether]

Well actually umm... I've had the game for what's felt like a WHILE now

[wind canyon]

but alright lets have a look at your infantry templates what do you use?

[wind canyon]

so? i still learn new stuff all the time and i have over a 1k hours

im still a bit trash when it comes to the navy as well

but its a game stuff happens you learn from it

[teal ether]

I don't really edit templates because I don't understand them, so I guess I use what the base is

[wind canyon]

okay so let me explain to u basic inf theroy

so you have your infantry divs witch are your line holders

[vital plinth]

Im using my tanks that have 45% equipment capture to wipe this stack but when I look at the logs I don’t get any equipment is there something I’m missing ?

[wind canyon]

it should be a standard 3x3 block of infantry plus suport companies

these units shouldn't be pushing and just standing around defending your line right

[teal ether]

right

[wind canyon]

just keep griding them down surond them attack from more angles

[wind canyon]

then you have your sword the units that punch thru the line right your amored, mechinized and mortoized divsions

[teal ether]

yep

[wind canyon]

so first get a bunch of basic infantry divs this should be the bulk of your army

[teal ether]

Well

I'm not in the middle of a game rn

[wind canyon]

right well get back to me when you do get there

[teal ether]

That;s why I wanted to start a game and learn in Helping Lounge VC

[teal ether]

alr

[wind canyon]

don't worry man you will elarn the game it just takes time

[vital plinth]

I wiped the whole stack but I don’t get any equipment is what I’m saying

[sick ginkgo]

should i produce anti air for support companies even if i have my own aircraft?

[warped river]

does anyone have a good paratrooper template

im currently using stosstruppen

[tired surge]

does this mean they died?

[proven rain]

if i stronger how i dont win

[vital plinth]

Hey @austere roost can I get your help at something?

[keen hemlock]

Wait for reorg

Plus air

[vital plinth]

I unlocked moderen air frame after finishing axial jet

Should I wait for super sonic jet or use the moderen frame to make fighters ?

[austere roost]

you can definitely build moderns now, just remember to upgrade to supersonics

[vital plinth]

Ok cool what should the design be for the modern and which engine?

[kind lark]

Does researching rocket artillery let you use rocket artillery on spgs?

[hoary glen]

Really sorry, I have no idea, my games end 1941.

But iirc the first jet frame is garbage and the 2nd is good

[keen hemlock]

There is a rocket module for tanks but I have no clue

You can also research motorized rocket arty

[deft pawn]

Sorry for asking, but I’m new to the game. How do people do that?

[hoary glen]

Old screenshot

Not longer possible

Or it's a spawn in template

[scenic nacelle]

Mods too

[hoary glen]

Igb

[hoary glen]

You need to win Battles. Are you winning them or do the Divs just die? Might be the difference.

[hoary glen]

Not possible to tell from your screenshot. Could also mean you reassigned the Divs to another order

[austere roost]

There's a rocket rail module but it sucks you can honestly just click on the tech and check the unlocked things

[austere roost]

It's pretty much just the same principles as designing other planes

[hoary glen]

You only need AA if you expect to be CASed. If you have green air that won't happen.

[tired surge]

im brand new im sooo confused on whats going on. happily i helped italy take ethopia

[hoary glen]

36w all paras and a field hospital. H the div when it lands and last stand until you take the tile.

[hoary glen]

You need to trade them something else for example in France first.

If you're not going for some achievement use console with 'yesman' enabled

[jade jewel]

Like give it to them, wait, and later ask them for it?

[hoary glen]

Yes

AI wants to receive first and then will give something

If they've done integrate Alsace you might be screwed tho

[jade jewel]

But northern france for luxemburg seems kinda much

Does it still work if I ask for multiple

[hoary glen]

I think AI looks at it 1:1 regardless of state. So if you occupy something in Africa try that first

[hoary glen]

Depends on AI vibes

[frosty obsidian]

is the wiki just wrong?

this makes no sense for slovenia to have this

also pretty sure it doesn't

[hoary glen]

The wiki is a slot machine about getting something right or wrong

[vital plinth]

Which one to pick for marine ? This is my field marshal

[hoary glen]

Thorough planner

Then logistics expert, then Infantry expert

[sweet dragon]

any tips for a new player who constantly loses to czechoslovakia as germany

I invade Poland, I Lithuania, Czechoslovakia Divides and conquers me.

[hoary glen]

Play on historical and do the focus where you demand Sudetenland and do the focuses after.

[sweet dragon]

Also, for Decisions, is it worth cancelling MEFO Bills?

[hoary glen]

Czechs are a peak noob killer bc they have super good defense and a high industrial output

[hoary glen]

No, do right side eco, build max 5 civs then only mils and conquer all of Europe before you reach 1940

[sweet dragon]

hahah yeah they really just divide me, so do I go and invade poland as per usual? and then czechs after? after i demand sudentenland

[sweet dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-souljaboy-soulja-boy-huh-soulja-boy-tyga-gif-4086522772699119831

[vital plinth]

Where can I see the principles. ? Is it 2x canons ?

[austere roost]

It's just air attack > speed > agility > defense, and then don't waste it on unnecessary things like 2x engines

Use hmgs before you have 1945 cannons

[hoary glen]

No, ideally you do Anschluss and do Czechs immediately after or do some eco focuses first and then do it, but it's basically free industry bc on historical they will always fold.

[austere roost]

Not much else to do

Ofc assuming you can satisfy range

Also speed is important but is very rare to come by so usually you just optimize atk agility and then defense

[sweet dragon]

Soo I dont invade Poland. what do you mean like civs and stuff I have like 10 hours on the game

[hoary glen]

So you get it without war. That's like the main thing of German eco growth. That you get Australia and Czechs for free

[hoary glen]

In the construction tab you can build factories

[sweet dragon]

ah right, thanks. i normally just upgrade the infrastructure

[hoary glen]

Orange factory builds more stuff, green factory builds actual relevant things like Tanks, Guns and Planes

[sweet dragon]

so you want me to build orange ones around berlin and stuff?

[hoary glen]

You can max the infra in the dam states, but else leave it as it is

[hoary glen]

No, you can play Germany with only building greens

Gives you the strongest possible military for 1939

[uncut narwhal]

as germany you only build military factories

[sweet dragon]

what do you recommend? Orange in the Rhine and stuff?

[sweet dragon]

alright thank youi

[hoary glen]

You have 3 dam states. Those provide +15% construction speed. Always build there first

[austere roost]

You build mils 3.5 years before the war so for Germany at most build one civ and then build mils

[sweet dragon]

What are the dam states?

[hoary glen]

Tbh 8 if you insist on hist Anschluss, else none.

[sweet dragon]

Im building 4 military factories there

is that god?

good*

[hoary glen]

Hessen, Westfalen and Rheinland

[austere roost]

You click on the states and check if they have dams on it

[sweet dragon]

im still remilitarising it

[austere roost]

All the game information is out there for you except for damage equations

[austere roost]

Yeah but he's asking you to build not to put troops in there

[hoary glen]

Don't build anything in Niedersachsen, Brandenburg, Thüringen and Franken bc you later get 100% infra from Autobahn focus. After that you want to build there

[sweet dragon]

I know but i cant build militarty things htere

[hoary glen]

You can still build infra there

And the infra is done after you complete the focus

[sweet dragon]

So what do i build and like where?

[hoary glen]

It's the first focus you pick

[sweet dragon]

infra in rhine and?

those 4 for infra?

[hoary glen]

That's good

[sweet dragon]

alright and then im gonna build my military factories where?

i wont build civillian factories like you said

[austere roost]

In high infra areas

[hoary glen]

Where you just constructed the infra, infra boosts build speed. So you build where there is the most infra

[austere roost]

If you hover over construction progress bar it will show you that each infrastructure lvl gives 20% extra construction speed

[sweet dragon]

oh nice alright

thanks

im constructing nfra in rhine and stuff rn, do I build the military factories atop of that?

[austere roost]

Yeah when the infra is done, put the mils in that state to top

[sweet dragon]

alright

[austere roost]

And then later when you finish Autobahn you can queue mils in those four provinces on the top

[sweet dragon]

Also to get the Anchluss thing

I need to have a huuuuuuuge army

[austere roost]

Also when you do the Hess focus, later on he will finish the Reich labor focus on his own and after that you can prioritize on regions as shown in the decision list

Just put your mils on guns

[sweet dragon]

Alright

im building like 65 guns a day lmao

thanks for helping btw

i know its annoying to help noobs

[austere roost]

Also, prioritize getting war economy law first

That 150 pp is the most important pp to spend in the game

[sweet dragon]

instead of like anchluss?

[austere roost]

That's an economy law not a focus

[sweet dragon]

i need that to demand sudentenland

[hoary glen]

Just mass train your starting Infantry division. And you put 20 mils on guns. Force deploy the infantry as soon as you can (the little arrow)

[sweet dragon]

Bet alright so litreally just pour everything into infantry

[austere roost]

No you don't need it for sudetenland you just need a certain amount of troops

[hoary glen]

You can do Rheinland, Inner circle, then one guy then Anschluss.

[austere roost]

Yeah cuz the goal is to rush through anschluss-sudetenland-fate of Czechoslovakia asap

And all you need to do for that is to get a lot of infantry out

You can reform your army later

[sweet dragon]

thats what my focus looks like right now

[hoary glen]

Until you click Anschluss. Afterwards go down to like 8 on guns and put the rest on Tanks and Air. (If you want to build Tanks else all on Air)

[austere roost]

Also for Czech focus do the option that gives you Slovakia as a puppet

[sweet dragon]

Alright thank you

[hoary glen]

You can do eco focuses for now. Right side has some incredible mil buffs and spawn ins

[sweet dragon]

what national focus do i choose?

[sweet dragon]

right side?

that side?

[austere roost]

Go down to fuhrerprinciple

Don't take ribbentrop

The other one is better

[sweet dragon]

I have no idea what ur talking about...

[hoary glen]

You have different kinds of trees. The first is Army, then you have Air, then Nav, then Economy, the Politcal. Your Screenshots Show the political tree

[austere roost]

The other option is better but you took ribbentrop already so it's too late

[sweet dragon]

ohr ight, sorry.

[austere roost]

Look just follow bittersteel's Germany guide

[sweet dragon]

Do i do the four year plan?

[hoary glen]

Don't do anything there now. Not needed for now

[austere roost]

And that's not the other option isn't it?

What option conflicts with ribbentrop?

[hoary glen]

It's better, yeah

[austere roost]

Also don't take Molotov pact that's a useless focus in game

[hoary glen]

You just need to declare war June to Aug 39 to not die from mefo

[austere roost]

Start doing the inner circle because you need 140 days in between each inner circle member

[sweet dragon]

Do i ban DNSAP? or react to it rather

[hoary glen]

Lmao

[austere roost]

Hess - todt - Goering - Speer (keep Goering and Speer but for industrial advisor use todt's company)

[sweet dragon]

alright so wheres thta

[austere roost]

Just follow bittersteel's Germany guide

[sweet dragon]

tutorial?

I find those so hard to watch tbh

[austere roost]

He's also not going to feed you meta stuff that overcomplicates things for you

Try to follow them

[vestal comet]

hello chat

how do i play communist indonesia

mass mob

[hoary glen]

Either click dei or start as Netherlands and release nation and click play as

[vestal comet]

alright

[austere roost]

Also for doctrines use gbp

[vestal comet]

im more like looking to develop a strategy because of a multiplayer game soon

[austere roost]

Ma became mediocre post ncns

[vestal comet]

and i gambled and got mass mob commie indonesia

[sweet dragon]

oh thanks guys! i got anchluss

[hoary glen]

Mass mob no longer exists vroo

[sweet dragon]

what do i do after anchluss

[hoary glen]

Eco focuses and Czechs

[tired surge]

how do i move my navy?

[austere roost]

Click on fleet and then right click if it's not on a mission

If it's in a mission it moves automatically

[tired surge]

so im playing germany and im supporting the civil war in spain rn

and i want to move my military

i just right click?

[austere roost]

Did you send volunteers first

[tired surge]

yes

[austere roost]

After you do that just move them like you normally move troops

[tired surge]

does this mean they are on the way?

[austere roost]

No

[tired surge]

uh oh

[austere roost]

You can't send naval volunteers

[tired surge]

oh

that sucks

[austere roost]

You can only send land and air volunteers

[tired surge]

im very bad at actually using my soldiers

are there any quick tips on how to win my wars

im brand new sorry

[austere roost]

Follow bittersteel's Germany guide

[tired surge]

okay!

[austere roost]

The better option is to help Republican Spain but if you helped Franco it's almost scripted to win

Ofc maximizing general grinding and mil XP earned is another issue

[tired surge]

they changed their diplomacy to non aligned

they used to be fascist

[austere roost]

Yeah cuz the leader changes to Franco and then he builds up fascist support again

[tired surge]

great

[sweet dragon]

finally got it!

thanks

the czechs look far weaker now, what do i do?

[austere roost]

Take fate of Czechoslovakia and pick the option that gives you Slovakia as a puppet

[sweet dragon]

Yeah I have to do some venice thing first

[austere roost]

You mean Vienna?

[sweet dragon]

shit yeah vienna my apologies

[sweet dragon]

Hey I got it thanks, i have the option to INtegrate Czech manufacturers and form the rome berlin axis, do i do those?

[austere roost]

Until you know what mios are don't take the Czech manufacturer focus

Doesn't Italy ask to join Axis once they annex Albania? Can't remember

[sweet dragon]

wrong guy to ask lmoa

lmao

do I reassert eastern claims or demand slovenia

if I demand slovenia I can get yugoslavia

[austere roost]

you can do both. You need eastern claims to do danzig or war anyway

a general rule of thumb is that diplomacy focuses that give you cbs are useless. Germany is an exception because the early focuses give you cores and allow you to lower mefo costs

[tired surge]

they are fighting for weeks now literally 0 things have changed maybe im helping wrong

[austere roost]

it's because of unplanned offensive

[sweet dragon]

Do I do Danzing or War? or demand slovenia first

[tired surge]

elaborate?

[austere roost]

the game elaborates it for you when you click on the state and it shows you the unplanned offensive modifier

the only real way to damage when you have that modifier in spain is through cas

[tired surge]

whats cas?

[austere roost]

close air support

[tired surge]

thats what im doing too

[austere roost]

then you have to wait for the spains to remove the modifier

bu that's why spain is soo good to grind generals because the line barely moves

so you can grind for a long long time

[sweet dragon]

do I expand claims in baltic, Demand slovenia or do Danzing or War

which first?

[tired surge]

so its built to take ages?

[sweet dragon]

i did danzig or war

[unborn mason]

I'm struggling with the Woman in a High Castle achievement, would someone be willing to help?

[austere roost]

yeah until the spains remove the modifiers

and ideally you want it take as long as possible so your generals and military gets more xp

[cerulean abyss]

is this a good marine template?

[austere roost]

no if it has line artillery then it's a bad template

any template with line artillery can be improved by removing the line artillery

[cerulean abyss]

yeah but like

the soft attack

im trying to build these things to break AI division deathstacks

[austere roost]

just watch the video in pins if you want to complain about line artillery being good

[tired surge]

how do i fix me not having enough fuel

[austere roost]

stop wasting fuel then

[tired surge]

ive been spamming making fuels on my factory stuff

[austere roost]

also trade for it

[tired surge]

how?

found how

[versed rose]

bad width, has line arty instead of real units, has motorized recon, has engineers instead of pioneers

very cool div design, go back to the drawing board

[cerulean abyss]

what's wrong with motr. recon

also i get it im hitler for putting in line artillery i get it

I also dont have pioneers for some reason

So how do I fix it

[austere roost]

pioneers aren't necessary

is your amphibious buff already 50%? It's capped at 50%

[cerulean abyss]

yeah

[austere roost]

then you don't need pioneers

what are you doctrines? Look at them to figure out which recon is the best

usually it's recon rangers or light tank recon

[versed rose]

needs AAT dlc, if you dont have it, use assault engineers

[cerulean abyss]

no I have AAT

[versed rose]

useless stats, use tank recon if you have NSB and max out breakthrough

[cerulean abyss]

they just randomly wont show up

im not building any lights

[austere roost]

then just use recon rangers

also lights are very cheap you can just get the cheapest light tank design until you can equip all divisions and then make an improved version

like 2 mils on lights is enough for ussr to provide light tank recon on 240 divisions

[versed rose]

use SPGs on the div too, you're too heavy on amtracs, you said you used the line arty for soft attack, they're worse than SPGs, use SPGs

[cerulean abyss]

great i have those

why tf dont pioneers show up

[versed rose]

you need marine doctrine

[cerulean abyss]

did the doctrine

i did

[versed rose]

remove engineers

[cerulean abyss]

ah ok

wow

the stats are worse across the board

incredible

[austere roost]

i mean you removed two amtracs

[versed rose]

Good job reducing the unit size to try and prove your point

[austere roost]

also it's a higher damage/width

and damage/ic

[cerulean abyss]

said i was too heavy on the amtracs

[versed rose]

That doesn't mean not replacing them

Add more spgs

[austere roost]

if you want to make offensive templates make them 36 or 38 width

[cerulean abyss]

alr 36w it is

[dense vapor]

help i cant get achievements

[cerulean abyss]

how is this

[turbid trail]

need template for this

[austere roost]

10/8 is better

also what is your spg template?

[turbid trail]

can't get speed when playing italy fsr

[errant chasm]

how is it going that fast?!

[austere roost]

what do you think about delphine btw

[turbid trail]

YEAH

[versed rose]

Spg design lacks break it looks like. But the soft and hp aren't bad

[austere roost]

also speed doesn't matter

[turbid trail]

it

does

wtf

[errant chasm]

im surprised it went 8.0 km/h in a heavy tank in the first place

[austere roost]

no it doesn't

[austere roost]

as long as it's >4kmh then it's fine

[cerulean abyss]

made it fast to catch up with my fast mediums

[austere roost]

stop adding all the useless speed buffs

[cerulean abyss]

fire away

cool radio can go

why does it matter at all?

i have all the industry i need

[versed rose]

Use 3-man turret

[cerulean abyss]

i put the stupid medium howtizer on a bigass armored tractor that should be enough to call it a day

[versed rose]

Superstructure is a meme that only light tanks ever use

[turbid trail]

you know

speed affects

reinforce rate

[austere roost]

no it doesn't

[turbid trail]

it does

[austere roost]

reinforce rate is a separate modifier

coordination does affect it

[static gazelle]

why cant i take this option pls help

[errant chasm]

i wonder if leg infantry and tank divisions might be economically effienicent than mech infantry. Tho the point of mech is just armor and nothing else. Maybe if there was a Prototype Infantry fighting vehicle that has lots of armor/attack but super slow in the special projects.

[austere roost]

it is if you can't mass produce mech

[errant chasm]

actually scratch that leg inf is meta period.

[austere roost]

mech wil have higher hp and hardness which makes it better than inf but it's also much more expensive

[vital plinth]

Im currently filled up with mills at max in my country should I try get more land and build more there ? Or build something else ?

[austere roost]

did you max out concentrated industry?

[wind canyon]

what else do the requirments say?

[gleaming grove]

I got Hongkong from germany and im about to leave their faction and declare war. Now i wanna defend that city to burn as many enemy ressources as possible. I already recruited 6 Tank Walls with 1k Defense and 50 width. How many of those would you deploy to Hongkong, or should i build even more?

[austere roost]

is this a mod?

[gleaming grove]

no

[spark cedar]

I NED HELP

WHY CANT I NUKE GERMANY

[wind canyon]

did you do the raid?

[spark cedar]

wdym

[wind canyon]

that

where i draw the circle

[gleaming grove]

click the nuclear symbol and show what it says

[spark cedar]

lol tysm

[wind canyon]

nws

[mild torrent]

i have just got this game and have gone through the tutorial and looked at yt vidoes and still have no clue how to even start would anyone show me the basics to where i can start to learn on my own without being put off the game? 😄

[wind canyon]

look at some youtubers playing the game

its entertaining and it will teach u

[gleaming grove]

https://www.youtube.com/@machiavellianstrategist i watched some of his videos (got 100 ingame hours now)

[austere roost]

well then make them 36w and to begin take another province so now you're not encircled

I do question why you want to spend so much ic to just hold hk. That is ic sitting there doing nothing

also what are your tank designs?

[gleaming grove]

Urban warfare is 50width, no?

[austere roost]

Do you really need 10.7kmh to defend a province?

[austere roost]

you don't want to be encircled so you need to get another province anyway

[thin nebula]

You can extend it by attacking from multiple directions

[keen hemlock]

are pathfinder raids worth it?

[thin nebula]

Is that the ones to help a naval invasion?

[keen hemlock]

yes

[thin nebula]

Ive never personally done them because naval invasions are big enough but it would probably overwhelm the ai

[austere roost]

also in terms of combat width: You don't want to just match the combat width. You want to exceed combat width by as much as possible

[gleaming grove]

which is why im planning to stack them

[austere roost]

yeah and 50w is a waste

also you didn't address any of the other concerns

[lunar notch]

keep watching the terrain conditions tho

[gleaming grove]

the thing is its 1956, i got unlimited ressources and 700mil factories. My only problem is manpower. So im planning to just let them sit there with 8/8 land forts and let the enemy who has 3x my fielded manpower destroy themselves

[austere roost]

you have 6 divisions there each with around 30k ic. Are you swimming in industry so much that you're just going to deploy 180k ic to hold a province?

[lunar notch]

every width is optimized to certain terrain types

[austere roost]

well if you're 700 mils then you don't really need any help then. Anything will do

it's junk time already

[thin nebula]

50w gives no room to reinforce stuff

So when the attacking div runs out of org battle is over

[gleaming grove]

which is good for as defender no?

[keen hemlock]

yeah i dodnt even know they existed untill today

[gleaming grove]

i could also put 10 or 20 in there. The only question is how many

[thin nebula]

No you want divs to replace the ones that lose when defending

[gleaming grove]

hm

but will they ever lose?

[thin nebula]

quite often yes

[vital plinth]

Yup 👍

[thin nebula]

If the enemy has fast enough troops they can even overun your troops before they can move back a tile sometimes and then poof

[gleaming grove]

how would the AI break through 1k def armored division with like light tanks and infantery against 8/8 fort

[plain mason]

it's an urban tile (i think) i believe so potentially it could be possible but for urban tiles in specific maybe 40w mech with 3 line anti air could do the work

id go safer and lower it to 30 or 36w tho

since urban tiles have the highest cw

[vital plinth]

Which mods do you recommend that improves ai navry ? Germany fx has carriers but only 1 battleships nd never sends out its strike force I struggle to find any battles , and Britain my ally some reason stopped using its navry at all after 1944 just sitting in the docks and putting a lot of production in convoys instead

[gleaming grove]

so i lower the width but increase the amount of units placed?

[plain mason]

ts template not optimal but the only one i have readily available

it's a fairly decent high df defensive unit

[visual yacht]

Isnt armor memeing really strong though? Or is that not the same thing as space marines

[plain mason]

get logi, put AA on them and it should give the AI tough work

although since hong kong is only one tile you can still lose cuz no cycling

if you want to defend (1) tile in specific forts and static aa might unironically be a good idea, static aa makes ai less likely to target that air zone and the ai cant counter forts

[gleaming grove]

forts and static AA are maxed out soon

[plain mason]

make sure your supply lines to hong kong are secure

[gleaming grove]

yeah got a naval army on patrol

[plain mason]

if you have islands that lead up to asia make sure to build max radar on them and naval bomb your convoy routes to bomb the subs out

along with dd patrols

additionally you could release hong kong as a puppet to get yourself local supply

[gleaming grove]

yeah that could be good

so would you just stack 5, 10, 24 units in that 1 tile?

[plain mason]

as much as supply allows for

if you really want to not lose it

[gleaming grove]

how would i know how much supply allows?

cause currently im still in the axis and its getting supply from germany

[austere roost]

it never was

it's a meme and that's it

if you want to tell me about armor memes first tell me how piercing works and then we can talk

[iron veldt]

chill 😭

[visual yacht]

My understanding was that you take up to 50% less attacks if they dont have the piercing to beat your armor

[austere roost]

no it's not how it works

[visual yacht]

And then there was something about having higher armor increasing your attack, im not sure really havent truly done it before

[austere roost]

Piercing. Represents the ability of a division to pierce armour and pin down armoured forces, restricting the movement. If the value is higher than the enemy's armor value, then the division suffers no penalty to its damage and suffers no additional organization damage. Otherwise, the division deals -20% damage with at least 75% piercing, the division deals -35% damage with at least 50% piercing, and -50% damage otherwise.[3] A division's piercing is equal to 40% of the highest piercing in the division plus 60% of the average piercing of all battalions and companies in the division.

it's in game information

also this is the easiest thing to break because piercing is so much cheaper than armor

[visual yacht]

Is that not the same as what i mentioned? The "division" is referring to the piercing unit right?

[austere roost]

it's not the same

read it

you don't get -50% damage all the time anymore

back then armor meme was make armor slightly higher than piercing to get -50%, now you need actually armor concentration to get -50%

[plain mason]

not to mention when you cannot pierce a division their max dice roll for org damage increases from 4 to 6

[plain mason]

oh wait they changed it?

screw what i said then

[austere roost]

yeah now there are tiers of shields

there are like silver and gold shields in the game

[rare spoke]

Just hit 60 hours I wanna know if learning navy other than naval invasions is important

[austere roost]

if you have the ic to armor meme now you have the ic to buld actual armor divisions

[plain mason]

it is

[rare spoke]

Alright thank you

[plain mason]

but contrary to what some people say getting the fundamentals of navy is easy

[rare spoke]

What about those rockets though how do I make and use

[rare spoke]

Nah the game so far is easy to understand I barely used tutorials

[plain mason]

they're not optimal so if you're going to use them just have fun

[plain mason]

🙏 we need more players like you

[rare spoke]

Could I use them to build like rocket trucks

[rare spoke]

I mean the games obvious just read what the things do

[plain mason]

only with mods

[rare spoke]

Oh alright thank you

I’m actively trying to rebuild napoleons empire

[plain mason]

yeah but people don't do that, struggle against the ai at hundreds of hours then swear some shitty thing is actually good or something

[rare spoke]

The ai are easy just use strategy

[plain mason]

it is easy

[rare spoke]

I like to use my Air Force to weaken them first and try to cut off supplies before invading

[austere roost]

some people here don't even read

[rare spoke]

Speaking of reading

[vital plinth]

Which mods do you recommend that improves ai navry ? Germany fx has carriers but only 1 battleships nd never sends out its strike force I struggle to find any battles , and Britain my ally some reason stopped using its navry at all after 1944 just sitting in the docks and putting a lot of production in convoys instead

[rare spoke]

How can I put my game in arabic

Cuz it’s my 1st language id prefer it

[austere roost]

there should be arabic mods habibi

[plain mason]

i don't know a mod which specifically improves ai navy but sheep's mod improves ai as a whole

[rare spoke]

Can I use mods in multiplayer

[austere roost]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3402098254

[plain mason]

language mods yes

[austere roost]

idk

[rare spoke]

Alright thank you

[plain mason]

as long as they only change the localization files

[austere roost]

i don't play mp

[rare spoke]

Is this the mod

[rare spoke]

Got it

[austere roost]

yeah it provides arabic translation

[plain mason]

you can check it by booting only with the mod and seeing if you're valid for achievements

[austere roost]

but like

[rare spoke]

Why mp is good support for defense divisions in my opinion

[austere roost]

isn't t34 also just t34 in arabic

[plain mason]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-back-laugh-contain-laughter-try-not-to-laugh-gif-14573032070357011316

[austere roost]

multiplayer is good support for defense divisions?

you mean like reinforcing?

[plain mason]

he means military police lol

[rare spoke]

Oh I thought u were talking abt military police in research

[austere roost]

oh

lol

i mean it's okay if you have the 15 support mod

[rare spoke]

That’s a mod?

[versed rose]

mp is the same stats as an inf battalion and gives recovery rate

not a bad support for minmaxing widths but theres better things to use ever since ncns

[rare spoke]

Yea that why it good for defense they recover and go back to the area

[austere roost]

yeah a mod that allows you to put 15 supports

[rare spoke]

Yea I’m gonna avoid mods

[plain mason]

mp is pretty good but the opportunity cost makes it not worth it

[austere roost]

so something like this

[vital geode]

Just a few extra support companies

[plain mason]

id like to order a cavalry division with all the support companies in the game please

[rare spoke]

I usually like to make like really small divisions so I can spread them out further is that a good or bad idea

[austere roost]

i added signals and super heavy artillery by the time I capped germany

[rare spoke]

Once I have most ground covered I make stronger divisions

[austere roost]

smaller divs are good for defending

but that's only if you can't build all offensive divisions

[vital geode]

Honestly I hope the new regimental support companies allow me to put an armored company for my inf

[plain mason]

16 width divisions are great for defending

[austere roost]

like I built 120 36w armor divisions before barb so I have 0 defensive divisions

[vital geode]

My inf could use some shermans providing fire support

Or you just spam another 5 support artillery companies

[rare spoke]

Is artillery good for battering a country’s defense

[plain mason]

artillery is trash in all possible usecases

[vital geode]

But muh support artillery

[rare spoke]

Damn then my 28 artillery divisions should go

[vital geode]

0 combat width and some stats

[plain mason]

dont ever use it except for support arty which is occasionally good if you don't have anything better

[austere roost]

support art is only good for small width divisions

their stats are ngligible in big divisions

super heavy is good though

just hope you enjoy moving those 10 production lines

[vital geode]

I need it. Ww1 taught me that sending troops without arty support is bad

[plain mason]

i see no reason why support arty over signal + logi + aa in 16ws mass mob for example

[vital geode]

I will always use support arty

Unless i really need a flame tank

[austere roost]

16w needs logistics?

[vital geode]

But even then, I tend to forget to make flame tanks

[plain mason]

they're optimal for sovs inf roach builds in mp for example

cuz youre going to have a shitton of divs without logi they will all be low supply

[keen hemlock]

Add super heavy tank and rpg team

[vital geode]

Wouldn't MP and signal be better for roaching?

[plain mason]

technically but you need to balance org too

add too many and org drops too much

[austere roost]

so my garrison division?

[errant chasm]

hello anyone good here at modding? had trouble with an tank module icon not loading in.

[plain mason]

so people generally do signal + aa + logi for multiplayer barb roach builds

ppl who know what they're doing

[vital geode]

Hiding the ic cost

[austere roost]

-470% atk on amphibious

[dusty sandal]

because of the new CAS it's best to use line aa now as well iirc
otherwise you don't have nearly enough AA stat

[keen hemlock]

Let’s see the Ic on that

[vital geode]

Okay, but how much ic does the thing cost

[plain mason]

me! but i have to sleep soon so i don't have time, i could perhaps help with your mod tomorrow

try asking in #modding and #tech-support

[austere roost]

idk old version of game but I would say around 40k

[vital geode]

Impressive

Very nice

[errant chasm]

good night tac

[visual yacht]

Yes i know, "you take up to 50% less attacks". But i get what youre saying now, the investment isnt worth it, is it still not worth it for bad tank tiles where inf/special forces are better?

[amber kestrel]

Hey, I don’t mean to interrupt or anything, but I need help with something

[plain mason]

idk im gonna be honest with you 1.17 killed mp and by extension hoi4 for me

im only caught up on le 1.16 meta

[austere roost]

no just build all mountaineer/ranger divisions in that case

[rare spoke]

Sorry for asking too much questions but should I use better cas?

[austere roost]

also with recon rangers and flame tanks and assault engineers armor divisions can perform very well in rough terrain too

[plain mason]

your nickname is really funny to be asking for help but you probably don't know why

[amber kestrel]

I have no idea which part of the research tree in end to a new era is for to get improved tack

[errant chasm]

is it because of the red baron games server lmao

[plain mason]

yeah

[errant chasm]

funni how you share the same name of the server that does competitive hoi4 mp lmao

[errant chasm]

what is an improved tack

[plain mason]

idk that mod, i won't be able to help you

[amber kestrel]

I have no idea that’s why I’m asking you guys it’s part of a mod end to a new age or era

[plain mason]

try asking it on their discord server

look at their workshop page

[amber kestrel]

I have no idea where the hell it is

Ok

[inner sparrow]

red baron but not in the red baron server

gg

https://tenor.com/view/thy-sins-crushed-cat-cube-gif-25127872

[austere roost]

did anyone test his calculations? https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/1ama8ab/understanding_air_attack/ looks legit from my end

[iron veldt]

whole lotta yap

[inner sparrow]

real

[austere roost]

how is this thing of beauty only getting 27 upvotes when armor meme posts get 200

[keen hemlock]

End of a new beginning?

[inner sparrow]

bc hoi4 reddit is filled with the worst players possible

[keen hemlock]

The mod that goes from like mid 1800s to like the modern day?