ask-for-help-here

[serene karma]

Press this and press train

[silent tiger]

Okay.

[serene karma]

If ur new u should try playing around with the game

And watch tutorials

[serene karma]

Dont be afraid to fail

[final estuary]

and i have successfully anschlussed in 1936

[silent tiger]

Okay

what nation should i start with?

[final estuary]

somehow even before the civil war in spain

[final estuary]

austria

its peak trust

[silent tiger]

Okay..

[final estuary]

invest in navy around 1939 tho

[silent tiger]

bro..

2 things

[royal gazelle]

gotcha good to know ty, if i was going for a meta "destroy everything" division i guess i'd be best using that new tank division in pins? I normally avoid tanks due to expenses/keeping my fuel for air but could be a neat little pet project. for GBP Im guessing its 36w is the current acceptable width? Think it used to be 40

[silent tiger]

1-im new
2-AUSTRIA IS LANDLOCKED and gets taked over by germany i think

[glacial steeple]

im afraid to fail

what do i do

[uncut narwhal]

just rush down austria hungary

[silent tiger]

How

[fathom thistle]

Yh 36w pretty much. For this you would change 2nd to self propelled artillery and 3rd to armored spearhead for the breakthrough bonus

[silent tiger]

I attack hungary?

[uncut narwhal]

your focus tree

just go down the annexation path

do the decisions

[silent tiger]

okay..

[royal gazelle]

good to know ty!

[keen hemlock]

do you think the spirit that gives spgs +100% piercing and +25% hard attack is worth it

[final estuary]

you can do it fast

however i dont recommend playing historical before your ready

[fathom thistle]

I'm not sure if you even need more piercing in sp but it's viable. I wouldn't say it's the only one cuz the supply focus from GB doctrine is also nice

[uncut narwhal]

100% not

piercing and hard attack in sp isnt needed until like 1945

[fathom thistle]

Like hard attack is useless in sp

[keen hemlock]

yeah i felt like the supply is just better

[fathom thistle]

So...

[keen hemlock]

same with the static warfare one

[wise dew]

thank you bro i was able to send my navy division of battleships to the english channel where they had like 100 naval dominance before out of nowhere a fleet of 50 ships blew them all up 😄

[final estuary]

<@&916727971820240976>

i have completed the 4 year plan and have done todt what do i do

do i flip to speer or goring

[serene karma]

Goering

[final estuary]

Aight

[uncut narwhal]

dont you want speer for 10% output

[dusty sandal]

efficiency cap is much better than output
the real strenght of speer is the construction speed buff

[uncut narwhal]

how much does göring give?

[dusty sandal]

10% for sure of both cap and growth and maybe more iirc

[uncut narwhal]

does he start with 5% already?

[dusty sandal]

iirc yes he does

[uncut narwhal]

it only says he starts with 5% resource gain efficiency

[dusty sandal]

there are buffs earlier in the path

[rain hawk]

whats the best doctrine for tanks gbp operations

[uncut narwhal]

the spg one

[rain hawk]

OPERATIONS

[uncut narwhal]

oh shi

grand assault ofc

[rain hawk]

ye was thinking about that one but just asked incase

thanks

[dusty sandal]

for operations Grand doctrine is by far the best
then come the two with desperate defense and rapid domination which both have their use (manpower and soft atk maxing). Everything else isn't worth it

[keen hemlock]

I don’t even know why expeditionary forces is a doctrine

[dusty sandal]

could have been fun if it buffed special forces or something

half of the buffs are just useless

[keen hemlock]

Ngl I only know grand assualt, rapid domination and desperate defense

Don’t think I’ve ever used the others

[keen hemlock]

Do any doctrines overall besides the sf doctrines buff sf?

It would be cool if there was a naval doctrine that buffed marines or shore bombardment

[rain hawk]

what about inf

[indigo sapphire]

what does this mean: you dont have these modules unlocked?

like what

i researched em ALL

[dusty sandal]

grand assault

oh wait im dumb

it's assault infatry that's best with individual excellence that's very good as well

militia is nice if you have it too

[indigo sapphire]

hey franci

[dusty sandal]

what module

[indigo sapphire]

the ones for carriers

[dusty sandal]

what module

[indigo sapphire]

idk

i forgot

[dusty sandal]

no fire control/sonar ?

preventing you from saving the design

[indigo sapphire]

yes

[dusty sandal]

just add any

[indigo sapphire]

again i researched em all

[dusty sandal]

fire controls are in electronics

[indigo sapphire]

alr

[spark gorge]

yeah forgot to tell you that

sending ships to the english channel is not the wisest idea

[final estuary]

yea

uh also fortify the benelux border BEFORE you try and bypass the maginot

firsthand experience

[lavish sierra]

Why did im cant open achievements? It said im with cheats or modded saves but im without mods im take without mods version

[keen hemlock]

I think that says you didn’t start in 36

Can’t read Cyrillic

[fathom thistle]

some kind of mod file

[subtle socket]

@dusty sandal omg french game!

[deft panther]

You need to start in '36 and without cheats or country modifications like: more experience for allies, etc. And choose the "Sergeant" difficulty.

[vital plinth]

As Iran with 9 civs of my own is it waste or worth to do a focus of 70 days for 2 more civs ?

[buoyant cargo]

guys, this game acts so weird with me. I played as communist china and got all core territory and invaded soviet and all his allies after they won against Germany and I took their land to half of Europa. Austria asked me to give them land but I rejected but the land transferred to them somehow..

[neat widget]

yeah I think you do that focus

[vital plinth]

Thx also I’m trying to demand land from Iraq normlay they say yes but this time they are refusing

Any reason why they can refuse could a little later date be a reason ?

[neat widget]

oh yeah, i forgot to say that you should do those focuses first

since it depends on iraqi war support

and you have to do it when it is low

[vital plinth]

Ah ok I see 👍

[kindred tundra]

I’ve already tried a few different methods of restarting and troubleshooting. Any tips?

[wise dew]

how am i supposed to naval invade then

how am i doing right now can someone tell me im trash at the game and this is the closest ive gotten to reforming roman empire

[vital plinth]

Hmm could it be something else it stays the same for a while even at the same period they gave me their region last time but weirdly this run they keep refusing

[errant chasm]

Hello Lionwarrior

[vital plinth]

Hey man

[errant chasm]

Need help with hoi4, I might see what i could do once I get off work

[neat widget]

channel seems empty

might be an opportunity

patrol in the channel and you should get naval superiority

[wise dew]

thye have a strike force that blows everything that enters it to smitherines

[neat widget]

huh

do you have naval bombers?

[wise dew]

no

[neat widget]

you may want to get some

[vital plinth]

@neat widget any idea to this ?

[wise dew]

i just made this design is this good

[glacial steeple]

iran is one of the nations where i believe some civgreed is good tbh

[glacial steeple]

good at what

being expensive?

having like no naval attack because of torp 1?

[errant chasm]

Hi Casey, hi Livadeia, Hi Harrison. I just came back from work.

[wise dew]

greetings

[wise dew]

bro im not good bro thinks im the aircraft designer

[errant chasm]

I have never used a naval patrol bomber only the small navy bombers and heavy fighters

[glacial steeple]

im just asking whats its purpose

[wise dew]

remove the british armada hiding in the ports to strike force my navy

[wise dew]

i cant do anything to advance the war cause of the unsinkable army of ships

[glacial steeple]

you can make navs

just give them better torp

and less secondary modules

and less engines

and theres no need for recon

just put fighters over a seazone and theyll spot for you

[wise dew]

so they shouldnt have radio targeting and everything else

[glacial steeple]

yes

[wise dew]

should i even use heavy bombers

[glacial steeple]

you can do the thing that makes it cheaper

theyre fine

medium frame is better

but theyre fine

they have more attack per plane

[wise dew]

if i nuke them a bunch will it do anything

[glacial steeple]

not to the ships

but to their industry and resources yes

and units in the state too afaik

and if you nuke an airport it deletes the planes

[neat widget]

that's way too expensive

[gaunt bolt]

i need the best template for attack for late game, it's 1945 i have 20mln manpwer and 744 factories (civil + mili + docks). I need something to destroy any opponent and i have pleanty of every material in game, any help?

[neat widget]

i think it is rolled when you start the focus or something but idk

[light knoll]

no

tactical nukes are dead

they don't work anymore

[abstract crown]

whats the best division template for germany 1940-41 ish

[light knoll]

36w block of infantry with arty aa field hospital logistics shh/recon rangers

more possible options: light tank recon, medium flame tanks

[abstract crown]

cheers time to go play 1939 start

[glacial steeple]

it does work with thermos

[wise dew]

bruh

so i can burn england to ash and itll do nothing to them

[glacial steeple]

it will

thermonukes damage units

[light knoll]

[wise dew]

ah so my old atomic bombs arent going to do anything? 💀

[keen hemlock]

i mean

they will add a debuff to the state and nuke the indistry

id just use all my old nukes on supply hubs

so th ai only has local supply

[glacial steeple]

i think they can still kill planes

and yk state debuffs

[keen hemlock]

they should reduce local population

imo

to show people evacuating out of the area

[glacial steeple]

vic3 has this

[keen hemlock]

dont they also reduce your war support

[glacial steeple]

yes

[light knoll]

yeah but how war support works is stupid

war support should be affected by you winning/losing

[keen hemlock]

i mean

most nations got more war support as they started losing

at least the facist ones

except italy

[light knoll]

not really?

there was way more support for the war when they were winning

and way more people who tried to kill Hitler when they started losing

Japan lost war support as they were losing

that's why they surrendered

there is no human nation that gets more war support when losing than when winning

people like to win

[keen hemlock]

to be fair the japanese government did keep tons of info censored

but im thinking more about like the totalerkrieg speach and stuff

the nazi party did try to keep the war looking good but tons of people illegally lisetned to the bbc

but its different for germany because they didnt go onto a full wartime economy

untill like 1943

but i would feel a need to defend my homeland if it was ever threatened, even fi i didnt agree with the war in the first place

[fathom thistle]

the fact that both wars were so pointless...

[light knoll]

propaganda gets stronger if you're losing yes

[keen hemlock]

i was more trying to say that

[thorny atlas]

What are the best land doctrines when playing traditional SP germany?

Playing casually as a mid experienced player.

[fathom thistle]

while using spgs or without?

[thorny atlas]

Figuring it out, should I add them to an infantry or tank template if I choose to?

Lets go without for now

[fathom thistle]

in tank templae replacing normal medium tanks

[thorny atlas]

So a medium SPG template will become the new tank division?

[fathom thistle]

GPB. As for sub doctrines assault infantry 90% of the time cuz you get a lot of soft attack from that. For 2nd field engineers or later on flying cavalry. For 3rd you could use a mobile in its name, I can't remember how it's called but it has a small buff to inf. As for 4fh Grand assault always pretty much. This build is for pure inf keep in mind

[thorny atlas]

I guess it makes sense when going against the sovjet horde

[fathom thistle]

pretty much

u want something like this for spg template,, for 5th slot depends on your needs

[thorny atlas]

Dang, I really wanna use traditional medium tanks for roleplay but apperantely roleplaying is harder now

[fathom thistle]

I mean you can use them they are just not as good

[thorny atlas]

As I said, iam still a beginner - medium experienced player, I dont know if ill be able to do all that while keeping it together.

[thorny atlas]

I know youre right, ill try producing them

[fathom thistle]

thats valid, its just for when you want to build them properly, I dont want you to waste your spgs with smaller templates cuz then it kinda defies the whole point of it.

[thorny atlas]

Thats for pure inf as you said, what should I take if ill lean into a more tank heavy gameplay?

[fathom thistle]

replace 2nd with self propeled artillery and 3rd with armored spearhead

[thorny atlas]

Grand battleplan still? for the logistics spirit I assume

[fathom thistle]

mainly for cordination but yeah still gb

[thorny atlas]

You mean siege arty?

[fathom thistle]

oh you dont have dlc

you have NSB tho right?

[thorny atlas]

I have pretty much every major DLC EXCEPT the latest one

[fathom thistle]

NCNS has it so rip

[austere roost]

just pick the one that gives soft atk to self propelled guns

[fathom thistle]

might as well take field engineering

or air cavarly later on if you get it in time

[thorny atlas]

Ill see what I can do, so bascially I should use the standart 9 inf with support arty and engineers plus SPG templates as my tank forces?

[austere roost]

yeah

you can also look at pin

[fathom thistle]

engineers for inf aint necessary but if you can afford them sure

[thorny atlas]

Thanks, will also be the first time iam using helicopters lol

[austere roost]

get radar before you get helicopters

[fathom thistle]

tbh at the point you get helis war already ends most of the time

but yeah

[thorny atlas]

Yeah, all I need to do is plow away the sovjet wih a soft attack death stack and than clear out the allies with the rest

[austere roost]

it's not hard to play as germany

as long as you have 18w infs and green air and cas you can just battleplan

[thorny atlas]

I think roleplaying will work too, I dont even need to play super optimized

[dim salmon]

Can anyone add me and teach me the game mucj appreciated

[gleaming grove]

Why dont they attack?

nvm

i hadnt invited colombia into the war

[ocean mantle]

Excuse me guys im recently start to play hearts of iron 4 but I only installed the main game without DLC, I've heard that's very essential part in this game, so I have 2 questions :

1. Is this game playable without install DLC?

2. What DLC should I download ?

[fathom thistle]

1. yes 2.NSB for sure

if I had to pick one

BBA if I had to pick two

[ocean mantle]

Can I find the tutorial for the case 1 on the internet ?

I saw many tutorials but they have so many functions from DLC

[gleaming grove]

Is there any chance to get the channel without war with the US?

[fathom thistle]

ig if you just follow the dlc ones with ignoring the dlc parts

[glacial steeple]

only by winning the fight

which btw uses the tile across the river

[ocean mantle]

Got it

[glacial steeple]

not the south tile

so if you have units in the south they wont join the battle or fight

and youll need like marines probably

[ocean mantle]

Will it significantly change the final results ?

Like, the tutorial process may be very different than my screen

[glacial steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-owl-dancing-owl-owl-sneaky-gif-12975781

[fathom thistle]

I'm not sure what are you trying to say but most of the basic tips are included in decent tutorials

Like gameplay wise it's hoi 4 even without any dlc

[fathom thistle]

Sneacasey

[gleaming grove]

damn i dont wanna fight the US

[neat widget]

better make some marines in other words

[neat widget]

it's a border conflict i think it won't put you into a full scale war with the us

i think

[spark gorge]

brother

its the british navy

either build up alot more

make naval bombers

[neat widget]

british navy is not insurmountable

[spark gorge]

or just try to take a paradrop to ports

[neat widget]

but yeah

Probably do all 3 honestly

[spark gorge]

I mean it kinda is if you try to set your entire navy to die off in the channel

[neat widget]

well you're telling them ways to surmount them so...

sending your navy to die in the channel is not the only way

[spark gorge]

yeah

naval bombers just goated

[gleaming grove]

so i trigger that event start attacking the channel (probablly best with 2 or 3 marine units), conquer the channel, garrison it, later core it and than there is no more war with mainland US?

[candid pulsar]

My friend who just bought hoi4 and I want to play together, how do I set up the multiplayer game on his side because he doesn’t own any dlcs? Isn’t it something like fixing the betas or wtv? If anyone has an idea on how to fix this please ping me. Thanks

[wind canyon]

It should be as simple as starting and hosting mp game what exactly is that poblem?

[spark gorge]

host sets the dlcs afaik

whatever dlcs host has will be used

[candid pulsar]

Ok thanks

Was unclear if something needed to set up

[wind canyon]

oh alr have fun

[gilded flame]

For railway guns do you have to mainly select a target to fire at or what?

[wind canyon]

Nah just gotta set it in range of wherever your fighting

[vapid gate]

how does the first election in greece work? like whats the benefit of either arresting the king or not

[gilded flame]

Alright

[modern merlin]

can someone here help me

[gilded flame]

If you don’t I pretty sure you can restore Byzantine I forgot

[wind canyon]

Wsp?

[modern merlin]

which option is correct?

hungary = green
turkey = red
china = blue

hungary = light orange
turkey = light green
china = yellow

2 is the ingame one

except in the recent DLC for china

[wind canyon]

Right but what exactly is it that u need help?

[modern merlin]

which colour pallet

[wind canyon]

Wdym?

What about it?

[modern merlin]

which one is better

in your opinion

[vapid gate]

honestly i think green

[wind canyon]

2

[analog comet]

2

[modern merlin]

okay

thank you

[analog comet]

Np

China just fits yellow

[glacial steeple]

correct

[neat widget]

china should depend on the ruling party

[modern merlin]

this is europe with hungary green and turkey red

[neat widget]

imperial china - yellow
kmt china - blue
communist china - red

[modern merlin]

yes exactly

[neat widget]

turkey should be red yeah

[modern merlin]

that is my thought process

what about hungar

hungary

light orange or green

[neat widget]

hungary being green would technically be more correct - see any hungarian nationalist symbol and you'll see what i'm talking about

but it doesn't really stand out when there's cyan czechslovakia and green bulgaria

so that's a harder choice

[glacial steeple]

hiii livadeia

[neat widget]

hiii casey

what color do you think hungary should be

i'm handing this off to you 🙂

[keen hemlock]

i like the pink

and the greater hungary color is good too

[white marsh]

Having trouble invading neighbors as communist states of America. Have wargoals active, however all neighbors have not created 25% world tension, locking me out of using my wargoals. what am i missing?

[neat widget]

check faction rules

[white marsh]

ah tysm!

[dim salmon]

can someone join a vc w me and coach

[glacial steeple]

uhhhh what if we make it red and then romania can be blue

and then germany could be like brown

poland could be pink because that looks nice

ussr could be idk white

grey

france dark blue

belgium green

italy orange

uk idk make it yellow

usa could be purple

do you need more

[vapid gate]

are starting generals traits random?

[errant chasm]

Yo Casey. I was watching Segl's new video and I saw your name in the channel members

[glacial steeple]

i dont think i am

i havent given him money

[austere roost]

no, generals given to you on day 1 have fixed traits

[plain mason]

casey doesn't do meta so she'd never follow a meta youtuber

she only plays with light tanks and camelry

[austere roost]

casey did artillery only

[glacial steeple]

im subscribed tho

[austere roost]

also if you're talking about segl's soviet guide it's not meta

[glacial steeple]

im watching some peak content rn tho

[plain mason]

he's a youtuber talking about the meta that's what i refer to

[glacial steeple]

https://youtu.be/iw7OzNmk0z0

[austere roost]

meta ussr would include rushing nkvd focus, giving one province of finland or whatever country you early war to tuva, and a bunch of other things

[plain mason]

one of the only large hoi4 youtubers that actually play proper matches

besides dankus

[vapid gate]

do traits matter more than stats

[austere roost]

also he didn't build infra in zaparozhia and stalino which is must

[errant chasm]

Fair tbh there is a lot of people named Casey

[austere roost]

the only stats that matter is attack, traits depends

[plain mason]

i wish i had your free time

[glacial steeple]

what about tacwedie shes my favourite content creator

[woeful turtle]

question

[austere roost]

attack > important traits > other stats > unimportant traits

[woeful turtle]

im playing Facist Romania right

[glacial steeple]

this is good to sleep to

[plain mason]

yeah tacwedies channel is p good

[austere roost]

except for faction marshals where only planning and logistics matter

[woeful turtle]

would a navy of light crusiers and sub with trade interdiction wrok

[plain mason]

id be surprised if you could build a navy

[austere roost]

so like zhukov is actually a great faction marshal because he has 10 planning+logistics even though he sucks as a regular general compared to grinded generals

[woeful turtle]

I dont wanna die to ussr..

[austere roost]

you overestimate ai ussr's competence

[plain mason]

anything works against the AI, although don't do trade interdiction for light cruisers

[woeful turtle]

o

[plain mason]

trade interdiction is only good if subs only

otherwise it's dogshit

fleet in being is better

[glacial steeple]

its just bad

[woeful turtle]

alr

[glacial steeple]

only good for blockade runner gambling

[woeful turtle]

im gonna use subs then

tbh

[plain mason]

i don't know current naval meta but if it's anything like 1.16 then light cruisers are still good

[austere roost]

there's a naval spirit that gives visibility buffs, i think it's only for trade interdiction

[woeful turtle]

what battery do I do

[glacial steeple]

its different

[austere roost]

if you're using subs you're doing fleet subs + aip

that's the only proper sub design unless you want to wait until 1950 and get nuclear subs with nuclear torpedoes

[glacial steeple]

nuclear torps suck

theyre too expensive

torp 4 better

[plain mason]

i mean if you want to do light cruisers then you only have one battery option

light battery

they should always be the maximum level which you have available

[glacial steeple]

bahia class:

[plain mason]

what about it

i don't play brazil

[glacial steeple]

it uses the dd gun

[woeful turtle]

alr

also

guys

[plain mason]

amazing

[woeful turtle]

when im researching something that i'll replace with my main thing

like

lets say

[austere roost]

if you're in 1950 and have a cost problem that's on you

[woeful turtle]

I want to research a BUNCH of tank stuff in a short burst

do I keep producing my outdated tank stuff

or

do I just wait

and THEN

produce

[fleet reef]

Why can't I use this design?

[glacial steeple]

last image i have saved of it

[glacial steeple]

change

[austere roost]

if you're talking about chassis then the only chassis you need is 1938 medium, if you're talking about tank modules then you can convert later

[fleet reef]

Alr

[woeful turtle]

I mean in general when referring to outdated equipment

[plain mason]

against the ai just do 1938 medium and research howitzer tech

[woeful turtle]

al

[plain mason]

• radio

[austere roost]

if you use the fixed turret then any heavier weapon will be locked to specialized role, also you the armor stuff is useless. Change them to two small cannons

[austere roost]

outdated equipment are treated differently based on their type

[woeful turtle]

like infantry, artillery, vehicles, aircraft, etc

?

[austere roost]

sell your fighters

you can keep most of other stuff

[woeful turtle]

alr

[pliant condor]

the important thing to know is that techs are not equal

most techs in this game is useless

a few are essential

so there's mostly a final design you can get on everything with a designer(plane, tank, ...)

for tank the essential tech would be 1939/1941 artillery

so you just make whatever heavy machine gun base and swap the line when you get the howitzer module

most tank research(in the tank tab) are completely useless

[austere roost]

Yeah that's also why ussr has such strong tank games because ussr has a focus to get 2 art research cards with 2 years in advance

You can get 42 art by 1940

[woeful turtle]

alr

[pliant condor]

lots of times researching better tech makes your tank worse

because you lose efficiency + make the tank more expensive with no gain

[austere roost]

Yeah sadly ai Germany doesn't do the Soviet research focus anymore, no early 1940 chassis anymore

I can't think of any other reason to get 1940 med chassis

[glacial steeple]

no dlc you want to rush adv heavy

[austere roost]

i just downloaded a dynamic research slot mod I'm going to research all the armored car techs

[glacial steeple]

which one

is it good

[austere roost]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3606377449

I tried starting a new game and ussr will have 4 slots so it gives +1 at 4 slots

[neat widget]

lmao

[austere roost]

and when I'm at 1k factories I get like 10 slots

[glacial steeple]

what are you laughing about

[glacial steeple]

too much bloat for me

[austere roost]

we'll see who's laughing when my 50w armored car divisions tear through enemy lines

[keen hemlock]

armored cars

i forgot those were even in the game

[austere roost]

i'm pretty sure most of the damage will be done by the land cruisers tho

[neat widget]

the cruiser has 2 75 mm guns and no other armament

of course i'm laughing

[glacial steeple]

it has anti air.

[neat widget]

oh yeah, and that

[austere roost]

true men play germany with 100% screen efficiency meaning you don't need screens anymore

[keen hemlock]

only use the bismarck and tirpitz

[glacial steeple]

it was better IRL though

[neat widget]

oh

yeah

[glacial steeple]

well not in combat performance but in weaponry

[neat widget]

they had rapid fire guns but they weren't like 75 mm

[glacial steeple]

1925–26:
10 canhões de 120 mm
6 canhões de 47 mm
3 canhões antiaéreos de 20 mm
1 metralhadora de 7 mm
2 tubos de torpedo de 457 mm
4 tubos de torpedo de 533 mm

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahia_(cruzador)

wiki

[neat widget]

yeah they were basically fleet scouts and supporting destroyers and not much more

[austere roost]

also speaking of navy, does sub/surface detection only apply to the ship or to the whole fleet?

[proven cargo]

Does the infantry template you're using change depending what country you play as?

[cosmic reef]

What is the best papal state italy troops template

[wind canyon]

The base template is different at the start of each game like for example the Italian inf div is 2x3 while the German inf div is 3x3 with support companies

[proven cargo]

But like is the one you want to turn starting template to always the same?

[thin nebula]

It averages it iirc

[gilded flame]

Is there any way to train troops in non core land?

[neat widget]

if it is connected to your capital by land, yes

actually it doesn't even matter if it is core

you can deploy on any owned land connected to your capital or your capital itself (even if you don't own your capital)

[gilded flame]

Oh I didn’t know

[thin nebula]

Honestly not even that badly armed compared to stuff like the sendai class cruisers

[gilded flame]

Also I have naval unit in production but I don’t gain any

[neat widget]

sendai had larger guns and more armor

[neat widget]

the date in which your naval unit will be added is shown on the green bar

[thin nebula]

Also built later too

[neat widget]

yeah

[thin nebula]

Compared to other ww1 designs its quite on par with them

[woeful turtle]

Is quantity better than quality you have enough factories and tech and can supply both

[austere roost]

a lot of good enough is better than having one perfect army

like for example I can get 120 of 36w divisions of these spgs to the frontlines and +4 axis doesn't stand a chance, meanwhile if I did all the fancy upgrades I would at most be able to get like 24 of them in which I can't even hold the frontline with them

[thin nebula]

Depends on the country imo, quality is always better but if you have zero quantity is better

[keen hemlock]

in someways you can

like poland getting romanian or czech generals

using their monarchist focus tree

[neat widget]

quantity is a quality on its own sometimes

that said, a good spg can be as little as 13ic, so you'd probably have like 100 divisions

[obsidian badger]

I want to move a general of one country as a leader of another

[austere roost]

Tbh if you get easy maintenance you likely can get 2 heavy mgs and ez maintenance and still get lower than 10 cost with cut corners

[neat widget]

yeah

[restive abyss]

hello im new, what does trains do?

[thin nebula]

Move supply for troops 👍

More train good

[vital plinth]

Hey if I use mod thsh makes AI use meta plane designs then how do you win against each other wheb you both have the same stats and maybe same amount of planes or other maybe have 1 k more ? What makes the other side better ?

[glacial steeple]

hi v

[glacial steeple]

gm b

[rustic sparrow]

hi can someone help? The game can’t register my dlcs bruh 😭

I’ve tried to clean reinstall

[thin nebula]

hi casey

[glacial steeple]

how are youu

[glacial steeple]

just wait?

steam needs to process it

its a steam thing

[glacial steeple]

i feel like playing mexico in sheeps mod

maybe portugal wouldve been better idk

[rustic sparrow]

Been awhile

[glacial steeple]

idk, contact steam

we cant rlly help

[thorny atlas]

When playing as historical Germany, my civ factories occasionally disappear completely, stopping trade and construction, than after some time reappear, I know it likely has to do with the mefo bill and economy of conquest mechanics, is there anything I should regularly do to prevent this?

[glacial steeple]

click price control decisions all at once

but anyway

its your civs that are bad

so dont make civs

like MEFO gives you insane mils and refineries, it just might give you some consumer goods, but you can still get autarky, and your mils never stop working

[thorny atlas]

So I should build only mills since starting and click all the price controls?

Makes sense actually, I could also cap the Dutch early for that rubber and oil but I’ll loose the MEFO boost early.

[vital plinth]

Hey if I use mod thsh makes AI use meta plane designs then how do you win against each other wheb you both have the same stats and maybe same amount of planes or other maybe have 1 k more ? What makes the other side better ?

[left mica]

national spirits and mio

brazil has op air spirits so it outscales other countries like ussr

and range mio is the best so 1000 planes with range mio is better than 1000 planes with like high agility statistically speaking

also a lot of other factors like doctrines, army air spirits and advisors

radar detection

how many planes you produce

[vital plinth]

Ok so alot of other factors even if both sides use the same air designs

[left mica]

air design is just one factor

[thorny atlas]

What are tactics you can use as Italy to lure as much of the royal navy as possible into the med to trap them later?

Especially after the revamp I think old tactics work differently now.

[tall zodiac]

How are the Japanese fighting me when I am not at war with them?

[languid trout]

japan sent volunteers

[tall zodiac]

Ha okay, I though I need to reinforce my colonies in china aginst them 😄

[vital plinth]

And range Mio is what ?

[left mica]

do you have arms against tyranny

that dlc unlocks military industrial organisations

range focused mio adds up to 50% extra range to your planes so you can add 2 armour plates and self sealing, which massively boosts your air defense

[vital plinth]

Yeah I have that it’s a module ?

And those industrial organizations are polices important to use that cost 25 political power ?

[tall zodiac]

Is there a easy way to change the repair queue for ships?

[uncut narwhal]

you want to assign the buffs first that give the most range

[vital plinth]

No I mean there is a small tab that says policy and I can choose different stuff form there one where it reduces cost by 5% but 25% less range

The policies last for a year and I’m wondering if the debuff also only last for a year or is a permanent change on ship ?

[tough wedge]

yo chat, when im playing as hungary in hoi4 with becoming a superpower with tanks, what should i do to amss produce tanks?

[uncut narwhal]

arent the policies permant until you remove them?

[uncut narwhal]

play austria first of all

then wait till you have hungary/czechia

produce tanks

thats it

[tough wedge]

is it cuz of the resources in austria?

[uncut narwhal]

no austria just has the better tree

[tough wedge]

then for austria,w hich path goes good with tanks?

[uncut narwhal]

austria hungary one

go down the annexation path

dont forget to fix the economy in between annexing stuff tho

[tough wedge]

so monarchist?

[half glade]

how do i deal with turkeys national spirits and decisions

like the kurds

cause i wanna make ottoman empire

[dusty sandal]

national focuses

[half glade]

is there an optimised way to do it?

im also gonna play non-hist cause i cannot be bothered with the allies im not good enough

[dusty sandal]

no idea
read the focuses, find the ones you need and which spirits you want gone and head for those first

[half glade]

i might try finding a youtube video

whats the best trade law for turkey

[dusty sandal]

as always for this kind of question : it depends

and there are a lot of factors it depends on

[glacial steeple]

limited

[glacial steeple]

ai hates trading

[half glade]

okay cool

[half glade]

does it change that much?

[glacial steeple]

generally

with more resources you want a lower trade law so you can use more of your own stuff

unless you have like a coordinated faction

if you have less who cares if its free trade its gonna save maybe 3 factories

[half glade]

okay i see

bro disorganized armed forces sucks

so many focuses to remove it

tryna balance it with the political stuff

[glacial steeple]

its not that bad

just ignore it

well you should do it at some point

but it like isnt a priority

[half glade]

okay

i got rid of some of the other ones

including debt council

[glacial steeple]

debt council suucks

[dusty sandal]

basically : stayed non aligned ? free trade will pay big time because all non aligned AIs will trade for steel and aluminium + you'll get the chrome trade from axis
going anything else, you'll have to weight the trade you get, the resources you need and the eco buffs you obtain

[half glade]

whats the best air force doctrines

[half glade]

okay i see

can i use local police force as turkey

im kinda worried about the kemalist states

[dusty sandal]

In sp anything that buffs CAS and range

[half glade]

thanks!

[glacial steeple]

yes

dont use the special law

its really good but its troll

they will kill you with resistance

also put garrisons on high reinforcement priority

[wise dew]

should i just give up its 1945 i have 0 manpower germany isnt pushing deep into russia like they always do im still holding on cause this is the closest ive gotten to forming the roman empire

[shadow jewel]

Im playing sovjetunion in 1939 with road to 56 mod. how do i get the eastern provinces of poland? is there a certian event which will get triggered or what do I have to do?

[glad birch]

they have to kill poland first

[shadow jewel]

so i just have to wait more?

[glad birch]

I believe

[glad birch]

that is how it usually happens

a event

[shadow jewel]

okii

thxx

[half glade]

i suck so bad lol

[glad birch]

?

[half glade]

i cannot figure out how to do this well lol

all of my troops have no equipment

[glad birch]

what are you doing?

[half glade]

greece declared on me as turkey

[glad birch]

what year?

[half glade]

but i cant do anything because my troops have no equipment

[glad birch]

Okay so I believe this is because of attacking or defending they have equipment but I only have 450 something hours so I am not gonna tell you much except your unit designs may be the cause of this.

[half glade]

i only have 200 hours lol its okay

im using this rn

i cant afford an offensive div

[glad birch]

those are defensive units

o

[half glade]

i have no clue how people do tanks and stuff as a nation like turkey

there is genuinely no industry

[glad birch]

mountaineers

[half glade]

i could try this

not much better than my inf though

literally 3 more soft attack

[glad birch]

what is it without armored recon?

[glad birch]

also the thing that makes it good is the doctrines

[half glade]

ive got this

[glad birch]

special forces

doctrine

also add engineers to it

[half glade]

all i can afford rn

[glad birch]

go to helping lounge 2

[glad birch]

go to helping lounge 2

[uncut narwhal]

looks like youve grinded yourself down on that mountain with a river crossing

naval invade them

[uncut narwhal]

field hospitals are too expensive for you aswell

[vapid gate]

will this cancel if opinion drops below 80?

[light knoll]

no

you just need then to have opinion over 80 when the focus finishes

[wise dew]

what division templates should i use for the invasion of turkey as greece for byzantium?

[glacial steeple]

you dont have time to edit

remove the engineers from the inf

use the mountaineers to encircle

dont stall the war for 5 years because its better to annex stuff early

[wise dew]

i have 30 army xp

its 1937

[glacial steeple]

you need to pick doctrines

grand battleplan, grand assault/desperate defense

[wise dew]

doctrines cost like 100

[glacial steeple]

individual excellence

so save up

you can spend 10 on removing engi from the normal inf because its crazy expensive

[wise dew]

so i should just train mountaineers?

[keen hemlock]

and inf

[glacial steeple]

just train inf youre poor

[errant chasm]

Hello Casey

[glacial steeple]

war should be like early 37

[wise dew]

ggs

[glacial steeple]

helloo

greece is poor idk what to tell you 😭

[keen hemlock]

isnt the strat for greece to naval invade and trap the turks over and over

[forest ore]

do you guys know if line arillery works?

[glacial steeple]

you dont get luxuries

[errant chasm]

Not in vanilla

[glacial steeple]

depends on mod

[forest ore]

base game

[glacial steeple]

bad 95% of the time

[keen hemlock]

every greece game i do fails so i need to follow the michanvelian startagists guide

[wise dew]

so i should just rush the byzantine tree and not do anything else?

[glacial steeple]

yes

grow larger

[wise dew]

my army is going to be made up of homeless bums

[glacial steeple]

yes

your enemy is also homeless buns

its okay

its all about relative strenght

[keen hemlock]

turkey does have like 30 divs

but no factories or equipemnt

[wise dew]

if i had the german army id probably still lose 💀

[glacial steeple]

i could make a reference to modern politics here but thats against the rules

you can imagine it

[keen hemlock]

nah

i get it

i think

[wise dew]

so i just rush the tree then throw all my fedex workers at the 2 inch border to turkey?

[glacial steeple]

well no

you want them to move in

because like youll be able to push 1-2 tiles forward

in certain areas of the theatre

which are most prevalent in greece

and then you can encircle guys there

keep 1 division on athens

if they naval invade, its free encircled units

last stand the unit on athens if needed

just the basics really

[wise dew]

do i naval invade or just set all my troops up on the border thats like 2 miles long

[glacial steeple]

you do neither

you let them walk in

and encircle them until their army (thats on the frontline anyway) is significantly weaker than yours

after that you can naval invade/land push/both if you want

[wise dew]

encircle them where

[brazen panther]

is the PRC without NCNS hard?

[glacial steeple]

in greece

[glacial steeple]

not particularly

[brazen panther]

should i do it? i can easily do germany and the USSR on regular and beat germany with the UK on regular

[wise dew]

if they are stealing my land in a linear way how can i go around them

[brazen panther]

aw come on

[wise dew]

bro venezilios just died 1 month into his presidency

[brazen panther]

whered help go

[glacial steeple]

its fun yeah

[brazen panther]

k ty!

[glacial steeple]

you let them walk in, and then encircle them in places where you only need 1 tile

after they get there

because like the istanbul area is just terrible to push because of the strait

theres also no supply in like half of northern greece so

[wise dew]

okay where should my army be before that

[glacial steeple]

like, in greece

[wise dew]

just anywhere in greece?

[glacial steeple]

you should hold the port in the north at least

so like there

i dont really have images but youll find it

northeast port

[wise dew]

thessaloniki?

[glacial steeple]

yes

[wise dew]

just have every division other than the 1 in athens there?

[glacial steeple]

likely

i forgot how to play greece more specifically than that

ive hardly played it so thats the extent of my knowledge

but once you have turkiye it should be easier

[wise dew]

so then after i encircle them all i just walk through their land unopposed

[wise dew]

like will they have more divisions or just poor them all in to die

[glacial steeple]

theyll always have some

the goal is for it not to be very difficult

[wise dew]

okay i have 10 exp should i remove engineers from my 13 bum divisions

[glacial steeple]

yes look at cost

engineer expensive

[wise dew]

why are they so expensive bru

[glacial steeple]

30 support equipment is a lot XD

people underestimate it

[wise dew]

wait turkey is guranteed by romania who is guranteed by france and czechoslovakia will i be pulled into a war with them

[glacial steeple]

?

guarantees are a single level system

[rain hawk]

does fire concentration give the best buffs for line art

or is it engineering

[wise dew]

what

[lean carbon]

[17:35:29][no_game_date][triggerimplementation.cpp:9790]: common/scripted_effects/BLT_scripted_effects.txt:77: has_game_rule: game rule LIT_ai_behavior does not exist
[17:35:29][no_game_date][triggerimplementation.cpp:9790]: common/scripted_effects/BLT_scripted_effects.txt:83: has_game_rule: game rule LIT_ai_behavior does not exist
[17:35:29][no_game_date][triggerimplementation.cpp:9790]: common/scripted_effects/BLT_scripted_effects.txt:213: has_game_rule: game rule EST_ai_behavior does not exist
[17:35:29][no_game_date][triggerimplementation.cpp:9790]: common/scripted_effects/BLT_scripted_effects.txt:219: has_game_rule: game rule EST_ai_behavior does not exist
[17:35:32][1936.01.01.12][effect.cpp:443]: Invalid effect 'IRQ_kamil_shabib' in history/countries/IRQ - Iraq.txt line : 116
[17:35:32][1936.01.01.12][effect.cpp:356]: Error: "Unknown effect-type: IRQ_kamil_shabib, near line: 116" in file: "history/countries/IRQ - Iraq.txt" near line: 127
[17:35:32][1936.01.01.12][effectimplementation.cpp:5447]: history/countries/PRC - ComChina.txt:77: recruit_character: Unknown character PRC_luo_ruiqing

[lean carbon]

what this error?

[keen hemlock]

prolly put that in #tech-support

[lean carbon]

okey sorry

[wise dew]

war started they are only sending in like a single division

nvm

[keen hemlock]

he means that

if you guarentee someone

and they are attacked and call you in

you cant call anyone else in

because you werent declared upon

[glacial steeple]

well you can if its an alliance

but like a guarantee isnt like

i guarantee someone, they guarantee third party, i join wars on behalf of third party

[keen hemlock]

yeah

[wise dew]

yo i dont think ts is working

[glacial steeple]

what are you doing

why are all your units in 1 tile

brother

you need to have a frontline

you also are being double attacked and only really want to attack when they have 1-2 divs on a tile

[wise dew]

you said put all my units on the port 😭

[glacial steeple]

like, in a line

ok so

you can have the port

and the tile north of the port

and if they walk in theres like

seperate places where theyre easily encircled

[rain hawk]

.

[glacial steeple]

yes

[rain hawk]

k

[coral scarab]

does diplomatic pressure (spy ability) affect ai's reaction to player ultimatum?

would make sense

[wise dew]

i failed 💀

i have 400 hours on this freaking game and i have completed my main goal on achievement difficulty without cheats once 💀

[gleaming grove]

What shiptypes should i focus on to make sure the US cant enter my waters as mexico?

[median pivot]

What Is good focus path to go early to war to Russia as japan with dlc?

[keen hemlock]

I wouldn’t even try to build a navy

The us’s navy is so large it’s virtually impossible without taking some navies in a peace deal

But you could build subs

I guess

[keen hemlock]

Monarchist tree

And nanshin Ron iirc

[scenic nacelle]

Lmao

That’s not happening

And u literally border them

[glacial steeple]

@scenic nacelle would love to help

[scenic nacelle]

Why me 😭

[gleaming grove]

so i should just let them have naval supperiority? Cant they deal damage from there?

[glacial steeple]

youre getting conscripted im going to read books

[crisp ledge]

Any advice on how to win the Yugoslavian Civil War? Given my political position, I really think I need to join the Axis, but the British-backed air force keeps pushing into my territory.

[scenic nacelle]

U can’t win

Even if u tried

[wise dew]

you're good bro i gave up on greece

[vital plinth]

Iraq keeps refusing me as Iran when I demand land’s Afganistan said yes in my past attempt run they said yes in my new run they keep saying no

[fathom thistle]

RNG ig

[errant chasm]

Is that a 13 inch Macbook pro?

[vital plinth]

Yeah

[vital plinth]

I’ve done 4 tries now

[errant chasm]

Nice, I had a 13 inch Macbook with a touch bar before I switched to a gaming laptop.

[vital plinth]

Ah Nice when I start my job I’m gonna save up for a gaming pc probably

[gleaming grove]

Should i add normal line infantery?

[austere roost]

No, add more marines

But tbh you don't need marines in sp

[gleaming grove]

like this?

i mainly wanna take panama channel

[austere roost]

It's not bad although you might want to add flame tanks

[sick ginkgo]

How much infantry I need per tile for good offensive (9 infranty artillery and shovel thing additions in the left)

[austere roost]

Remove line artillery

And offensive units ideally should be 36w

[fathom thistle]

if you mean like for holding the frontlines while your attack division do the actual dmg then it depends on how big is your frontline

[sour mountain]

why do me and my friends have dif game versions

[wise dew]

bro i cant assign units to an order because the ui is too freaking big

[sick ginkgo]

Nah, for normal these division to do attack

I just can’t get tanks till 1938-1939 but I still wanna do offensives

[fathom thistle]

I wouldnt attack with 18w in first place

[fathom thistle]

you can do 36w inf

[sick ginkgo]

Ah then can you recommend a better non tank inf

[fathom thistle]

but you want to have at least 200 breakthrough

[fathom thistle]

this one works well

[sick ginkgo]

Can I replace aa with artillery if I have airforce?

[fathom thistle]

if you have air superiority u can replace aa's with infantry

[fathom thistle]

ye

[sick ginkgo]

Why can’t

[fathom thistle]

typo

can*

[sick ginkgo]

Oh okay, thanks

[fathom thistle]

also what doctrine u using?

[sick ginkgo]

Wait

[fathom thistle]

its kinda importnant

[sick ginkgo]

Assault infranty

[sour mountain]

pls help

[fathom thistle]

good, for 4th slot grand assault always

[sick ginkgo]

And fire concentration (I’m trying to translate it as close as I can)

[sick ginkgo]

okay

also uh

since im bad at hoi4

can you tell me

how to get the fifth line in division template?

[fathom thistle]

the artillery one? its pretty useless cuz it buffes line arty which is bad, you might as well use the other ones depending on your build

[sick ginkgo]

like the previous second doctrine yk

[fathom thistle]

just grind your mastery

and you will get it eventually

[sick ginkgo]

how to grind mastery if im bad at the game (training seems not to give enough xp)

[fathom thistle]

war

attachees

joining civ wars - sending volunteers

[sick ginkgo]

okay, thanks

[manic depot]

i just have one question : i tried played kaiserreich but my game decided to refuse, I tried to follow the instrunctions but the problem is percistant

[sick ginkgo]

what about amount of infranty divisions i need per tile usually

[dark thistle]

why do i have -922m guns

[sick ginkgo]

you either used ale command wrong way

or idk

[dark thistle]

im in ironmode

[sick ginkgo]

then

idk

[fathom thistle]

put the whole game folder in exclusions

idk if you did it already cuz its in german

[manic depot]

?

[fathom thistle]

you know how to make exclusions right?

for your pc

[manic depot]

nah

[fathom thistle]

windows security - virus threat protection - exclusions,
alternatively just find the path which cant be accessed and manually change the permission for it to be accessible

[sick ginkgo]

how to transfer division before civil war

[keen hemlock]

wdy

m

wdym

[sick ginkgo]

(soviet union, sent nkvd divisions to another general)

[sick ginkgo]

i saw some people making their divisions very bad (like 1 aritllery) before civil war so their enemy will have these divisions

[keen hemlock]

yeah

[sick ginkgo]

so uh

[austere roost]

Get a lot of 1 inf + light tank recon + support artillery divisions and train them

[sick ginkgo]

why my enemy changed divisions from 1 artillery with shovel thing in the left to normal infranty

[keen hemlock]

engineers

[vapid gate]

attaches do help with exp

[keen hemlock]

if ur ussr

[sick ginkgo]

yes

[keen hemlock]

sent mountianeers to scw

[sick ginkgo]

so uh

i make a template

[keen hemlock]

i did this a while ago and won the civil war in like 3 months

[sick ginkgo]

with mountaineers?

1 mountaineer template?

[keen hemlock]

send your mountianeers to the spanish civil war

[manic depot]

still doesnt work

[keen hemlock]

to get army xp

[sick ginkgo]

and what template do i do?

i mean before civil war so my enemy will have weakened army

[keen hemlock]

one arty

use your one inf as garrason

or make a one inf

you can also lend lease everything before the civil war and cancel it after it starts to get it back

same with putting it on the market

[sick ginkgo]

ill try this

[sick ginkgo]

how to do it with ussr

[honest bloom]

Any fun mods I should try?

[keen hemlock]

lend lease it to spain

right before the war

then cancel it once the war starts

by war i mean your civil war not spain

[sick ginkgo]

uh but i seem to lack the thing in the right top corner

like i forgot the english word for it

[keen hemlock]

is your civil war about to start

[sick ginkgo]

that needs 50% to start lend lease

[keen hemlock]

world tension

[sick ginkgo]

yeah my bad

[keen hemlock]

put it on the international market

[sick ginkgo]

oh okay

[gleaming grove]

how do i get flame tanks?

[austere roost]

With nsb no gotterdamureng then research 1939 engineer, if you have both it's a special research project

[gleaming grove]

This is the only land research i have

[austere roost]

Do you have nsb

You need nsb for flame tanks

[gleaming grove]

whats nsb

[sick ginkgo]

so

the decision to start soviet civil war just popped

7% world tension

[austere roost]

No step back

It should be the first dlc you buy

[gleaming grove]

i only have these

[keen hemlock]

no step back

[austere roost]

Is special research in base game?

I thought you need gotterdamureng for that

[keen hemlock]

yeah

i think so

but you only have a few

mev is one

[cold bloom]

Mhm a few are free like nukes

[vapid gate]

what are the benefits of a higher supply level like if my troops are in a 2.0 supply province and the enemy is in a 3.0 one

[gleaming grove]

Where can i see my breakthrough points?

No way its the thing saying "0" right?

top left

[scenic nacelle]

It is that

Fun fact

[gleaming grove]

damn

so i probably need more than just 1 aero facility right?

just to get breakthrough points

[vapid gate]

is it better to deduce 1 factory for coal or research excavation if you dont rely on your resources

[glacial steeple]

idk depends

[vapid gate]

im afraid if i research excavation theyre just gonna take the extra coal

[keen hemlock]

Get the coal boilers tech

[vapid gate]

ill just use the factory until the boiler isnt ahead of time

can a convoy be outdated?

[gleaming grove]

Should i stop producing? Its the highest weapon i get

[dusty sandal]

just import the coal at that point

[glacial steeple]

always good to have some

[dusty sandal]

the techs won't help because you don't have any to begin with

[austere roost]

No

[honest bloom]

Is there any way to remove this shit it says it can't be removed but is there a like a cheat to remove it

[keen hemlock]

you get it from a national spirit

there prolly is a cheat

or a console command

[slender magnet]

@left mica lady's and gentleman i finally did it i beat the shit out them France man

https://tenor.com/view/i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-celebrating-gif-6529507804860980052

[flint shoal]

debug
remove_ideas (debug name of it)

[honest bloom]

You got a lot to learn son😭

[slender magnet]

What

??

No I thought I had a fun

For a second