ask-for-help-here

[slender lodge]

its an ironically comment

[rose plover]

didnt read all of the interaction there

[slender lodge]

i hope germany doesnt wins

[bleak helm]

how can i win the chiness - japan war as communist china ?

[tight vector]

Does anyone have any good early game light and medium tank designs for Germany?

[twin kayak]

what should I chose

[slender lodge]

messersmichtt always da best

[bleak helm]

bruh

@ember geyser

[proven rain]

how to win against greece

[rose plover]

get bulgaria as a puppet first

[proven rain]

how

[rose plover]

with the focus

[proven rain]

then?

[rose plover]

ye, after you get bulgaria its easier to win against greece

[novel coral]

any1 wanna play

[tight vector]

Should I use anti tank support?

[minor ibex]

whenever i zoom in/out or move my camera a bit i get these white flashes

[split crown]

I tried to swap out a scientist doing nuclear research. It wouldn't let me add a scientist afterwards. I can't see the project anymore, and I'm in Ironman mode... Is there a fix?

[gleaming grove]

If i give a command to an army, can i still give "subcommands" to single divisions or is that not working?

[proven rain]

i cant win

[dusty sandal]

equip your divs

[rose plover]

naval invade, bulgaria doesnt have any ships

also that

[proven rain]

i dont know

how to

[dusty sandal]

something very simple : see a red bubble ? you're doig something wrong so stop attacking and rethink the strategy

no equipment = no stats = no ability to fight
don't attack when underequipped

[trail reef]

whats the point of these two being exclusive

[rose plover]

select your fleet and put them on these symbols and split them up to for the tasks

[slender lodge]

tf is thus

[proven rain]

cantr

[rose plover]

you have to right click on the black sea as well

[proven rain]

ok then

[rose plover]

and then you stop attacking at the border and split your army or train new troops (you should be able to make new divs) for the invasion

[proven rain]

then

[rose plover]

just sent them to sinop or samsun where is a dock and naval invade

[gleaming grove]

Why cant i just attack to the top?

[rose plover]

seems good

put all your navy in the black sea and you get it

[trail reef]

these have the same effects do they change any other focus?

[proven rain]

they dont move

nah its not work

[rose plover]

wait a sec

[proven rain]

bruh why i cant play other country

[rose plover]

click the dock symbol, then the dock your troops are standing and then the dock you wanna invade

[proven rain]

?

[rose plover]

and then you wait an amount of time for the invasion to start

[rose plover]

?

[proven rain]

cant

nothing happen

[rose plover]

it doesnt start immediately

[proven rain]

but i lose the spot

where they stand

bruh

[rose plover]

you mean konstantinopel?

[proven rain]

ye

[rose plover]

then defend the tile of the other side and invade from sinop or samsun (north turkey)

[proven rain]

but dont work

see

[rose plover]

https://prnt.sc/FEKcpLXBik_V

[proven rain]

yea

idk italy just attacked me

like bruh

[rose plover]

then its over

[proven rain]

how i need to defend this

naval dont work

[rose plover]

you cant

[proven rain]

why is this game that bad

bruh

like turkey cant get bulgaria

[rose plover]

well it can

[proven rain]

i see

[rose plover]

are you playing historic or not?

[proven rain]

his

[rose plover]

ok

no idea how the focusses with puppets work then

non-historic for example will bulgaria give up and becomes your puppet xD

[proven rain]

can u come in vc

[rose plover]

cuz you have more troops

[proven rain]

and

say it

[rose plover]

later, have to go grocery shopping

[jagged grail]

I just downloaded tno how do I fix this?

[gleaming grove]

How can the americans even supply that thin line? I cant break it

ok nvm, but why is it catholic mexico and not my land?

[junior light]

Should I do Plan Z or Trade Interdiction first as germany?

[dusty sandal]

your divs are underequipped. again.
please STOP ATTACKING with underequipped divisions. They're already unfit for attacks and bashng your head against the wall will only succeed in getting you killed faster

[rose plover]

cuz mexico had already one piece of the region in the screen above so they get all the rest tiles of the region

[proven rain]

bruh but i not gon await 500 day for equ

[dusty sandal]

you don't have a choice

[proven rain]

so you saying if i have 14 people in 1 div but full equ i can get anything

[dusty sandal]

you need full equipment to have full stats
you already don't have good divs, I'm guessing no air either so you need all the stats you can get

if you don't have stats, you can't push

[proven rain]

in war you cant get full equ

[dusty sandal]

you can ...

but you started a war with no preparation

[proven rain]

nah

if i start everything just goes

[dusty sandal]

these divs were already underequipped
you attacked endlessly watching a red bubbles, making them even more underequipped

[proven rain]

in another

[dusty sandal]

with shitter countries, and early wars, you can't battleplan without a thought

[proven rain]

check if i start

a war

[dusty sandal]

in need to micro, adapt your templtates etc

[dusty sandal]

yes because you attack with divisions not made to attack

you take loads of losses and then lack equipment

and you keep doing it

even though I keep telling you not to

I can't help and nobody will be able to if you don't listen to advice

[proven rain]

thats what i said

[dusty sandal]

#ask-for-help-here message

[proven rain]

what?

division no attack

what do you mean

[wet crater]

Wait what even are this guys templates?

18 width is at least decent since he seems to be playing france?

[gleaming grove]

I dont know how to stop americans from advancing. They have so many armored units and somehow they still dont run out of full/supply

[proven rain]

show better

[dusty sandal]

base ones probably

[rose plover]

you wanna vc now @proven rain ?

[proven rain]

yea

[dusty sandal]

...

[proven rain]

but wait

?

[dusty sandal]

we can't help if you lie either

[proven rain]

wdym

[wet crater]

If its base 18 width is decent

I wouldnt call them

Attacking divs

[dusty sandal]

not it's not
he's trying to attack with it, and they're already underequipped

[wet crater]

But they shouldnt get ground to pieces holding

Yeah attacking with them is

Suboptimal

[proven rain]

then bruh

[rose plover]

i have no problem attacking with them

[wet crater]

Yeah its like

[rose plover]

i mean thats all i use and i win with them against everything, the only thing i need to add is aa/at and thats all

and i know these arent the best for attacking

but they are good enough

[wet crater]

Line artillery is, not great

[glass hinge]

im playing switzerland on non historical and for some reason germnay got into civil war but the non aligned germany doesnt have the focus tree ? does someone know why this happened

[wet crater]

My go to on majors with enough manpower is 32 width foot blocks

[proven rain]

send the temp

[rose plover]

without them i wouldnt win as much as with them, so like i say, its good enough

[wet crater]

France can definitely hold with the base 18 width infantry though

[wet crater]

Its self explanatory

[rose plover]

https://images.steamusercontent.com/ugc/15137331863876390518/CA77064025B33C90A9F59E873814A5CF322A11A1/ so what are you saying to this then with 32 width?

[neat widget]

console

but you're not supposed to use it

[neat widget]

this is an old thing

[wet crater]

Hell with a CAS based strat france can, push with them

[neat widget]

this is from pre-1.15 I believe

[dusty sandal]

at is useless as is cav recon
line arty is suboptimal but it can work against AI

[wet crater]

But thats not div is good, so much as, the cas shreds the germans

[proven rain]

can u just say why i losing

[rose plover]

it really works against the ai

can kill fully equip tanks with them

[proven rain]

while i started the wor with full equi

then now i have 0

[dusty sandal]

you don't have equipment
you probably don't adapt your templates
you attack with divs not made for the job
you probably don't use air nor anti air

[dusty sandal]

ai tanks are abysmal dogshit to say the least

[wet crater]

Because fighting burns it?

[proven rain]

3/4

[neat widget]

this is funny because it can be read differently
at is useless
cav recon line artillery is suboptimal but it can work against AI

because, you know, cav recon synergizes with line artillery

[dusty sandal]

cav recon has basically no purpose

[rose plover]

well everything the ai does is dogshit

[proven rain]

thats what i said but the guy said its not gonna

[wet crater]

Doesnt check out with the div, working seemingly everywhere

[dusty sandal]

it's costly and barely gives a buff

[rose plover]

so doesnt matter what divs you use against ai

[wet crater]

I mean

I have seen somebody do armored cars only

So yes

[neat widget]

cav recon costs like 60 ic and gives 10% attack bonus to artillery, so in that sense it can be useful. But yeah, not that useful

[wet crater]

It only sort of matters

[dusty sandal]

yes, attacking with divs not made to attack means you lose WAY MORE equipment

if you attacked with divisions that had high breakthrough and high HP you wouldn't lose nearly as much

[wet crater]

Its more that with the ai its like

[proven rain]

why u just dont said that

[wet crater]

Are you just, a masochist or not at times

[dusty sandal]

#ask-for-help-here message

again...

[wet crater]

Armored cars are total dogshit though

[dusty sandal]

I'm done I can't do this anymore

[errant chasm]

what is milan struggling in?

[proven rain]

like i lose and dont know how

[errant chasm]

that is very vague. Okay here is my advice, you need to learn more on the game mechanics

[proven rain]

but they said 4 thing and i only do 1 wrong what is

temp

but they cant send the temp

what i ask for

[dusty sandal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcp1ooD_YqY

[proven rain]

ok nice

but i need temp

[errant chasm]

see pinned messages for that

[proven rain]

i dont see it

[dusty sandal]

9inf support aa, support arty to hold the line

tanks, sf, inf (change rangers for medium flame tank)

[proven rain]

for attackk?

[errant chasm]

try the tank or the mountaineer. make sure it's fully equipped before you attack

[proven rain]

1 guy

just said everything

[proven rain]

only tank work?

i dont want special force

[errant chasm]

Yes the tank will work just dont do it in mountains

[bleak helm]

what's that for ?

[neat widget]

it gives you intelligence and initiative

intelligence gives information on enemy countries, as well as a small buff to all of your stats

it's like 0.3% for every 1%

[remote fractal]

is it cheaper to convert units or to simply train new ones?

like if i am playing as France should I disband my cav units asap or look to convert them to infantry

[neat widget]

i mean it is the same expense

i think they take the same amount of time to fill up to 100% strength

converting units also loses experience

i honestly don't fully know myself

[gleaming grove]

Frontlines are completely bugged because brazil capitulated and now americans are everywhere inside but i cant draw frontlines

[dusty sandal]

you can't draw fronlines in wastelands, it's no bug

it's like wanting one for the sahara

[gleaming grove]

so there is only that small paths to advance?

Also where do you get steel lategame?

[jagged grail]

What do I even do navy is so confusing I’m now defending my coast so d day dosent happen some attempts at Italy landings were made by the British I sent a couple divisions down there and I’m reinforcing lots of tanks

And also have air superiority in the British channel

[dusty sandal]

you have no navy on a mission

put surface fleets on patrol, expect a battle

[proven rain]

how to get this

[scenic nacelle]

research maintence company

[keen hemlock]

maintance company

[scenic nacelle]

may be the first or 2nd one

[keen hemlock]

go down on your trade law

[proven rain]

how to set smth to artiliery

[light knoll]

2nd

[proven rain]

and how to get the arti like in this

[neat widget]

you have no radio?

[proven rain]

ye

[neat widget]

you probably should get it since it's useful

[proven rain]

a helper sent this

so its not good?

[neat widget]

yeah because one of the modules above should be a radio

probably replace the sideskirts for now

[proven rain]

.

there is it

so everything is bad

[glacial steeple]

hi liv hi francis hi milan

[proven rain]

wsp

[glacial steeple]

hi haafr

[glacial steeple]

are you winning

[proven rain]

idk

ig

[glacial steeple]

awesome

[neat widget]

we're discussing spgs right now

[proven rain]

?

so its good?

[neat widget]

mostly

[proven rain]

alr so

[neat widget]

so replace the side skirts with a radio when you can

[proven rain]

but its dont let

[glacial steeple]

you start with a howitzer

[proven rain]

to se art

[glacial steeple]

put it on

[neat widget]

as france you have howitzer 1

that is fine for early game

[proven rain]

?

[neat widget]

but by 1939 if you're doing a tank build you should have howitzer 2

[proven rain]

i in 1940

[glacial steeple]

200 xp do you have doctrines

[neat widget]

yeah you should probably research howitzer 2 soon

[proven rain]

nah

where is it

[glacial steeple]

artillery

[neat widget]

in the artillery tech tree

[proven rain]

alr so whihc one i need

[proven rain]

?

[dusty sandal]

it's fine as is but a radio is good if you don't have armor skirts or easy maintenance

[errant chasm]

Hello

[proven rain]

yo

why i cant select arti in tank

[errant chasm]

do you have a howi module or the close suporrt gun?

[proven rain]

the first is mine

[errant chasm]

do you have the close support gun or the howitizer?

[neat widget]

yes

they're france

[errant chasm]

go to small guns and find the close support gun or go to medium guns and find the howitizer module

[errant chasm]

hey Liv

[glacial steeple]

hi vistula

[errant chasm]

hi casey

[glacial steeple]

change the gun and the turret

please

medium turret is so good

dont use small guns

[neat widget]

hey vistula

[dusty sandal]

wrong gun, use howitzer, it's medium armament

[glacial steeple]

TURRET

to the LEFT

[neat widget]

you don't have medium turret somehow?

[dusty sandal]

they have, they just need to use it

[glacial steeple]

(left) <--- ---> (right)

[dusty sandal]

now the designation

make it SPG

[glacial steeple]

its too slow

[neat widget]

and then that's it

[glacial steeple]

change to gasoline engine or to the tracks that give speed

its because it uses a different MIO

and also the role

[proven rain]

what

[errant chasm]

wait does milan have AAT

[proven rain]

ye

[glacial steeple]

your tank is like 3.8 kmh or something

so it wont let you save

minimum speed is 4

[errant chasm]

wait arms againist tyranny

the one with the mio

[proven rain]

nah

[glacial steeple]

its ok

[errant chasm]

oh okay jsut make the tank a bit faster

[proven rain]

this good

[dusty sandal]

add support AA

and it's all good

[proven rain]

how to get 5 slot

[pale cove]

how can i improve

(france build)

anti inf

germany player was only making flame tanks so

[errant chasm]

Use the medium spg for anti inf

And heavy tank for anti tank

[pale cove]

really? dosent that take up more combat width

or am i high or sm

[errant chasm]

They reduced it to 2

[pale cove]

ohhhh

i see

[pale cove]

why mediums though

you lose out on soft attack i think

[errant chasm]

Nah the heavy howi comes too late in the game

[pale cove]

oh thanks man

https://tenor.com/view/máy-giặt-tủ-lạnh-laytv-sigma-skibidi-troll-face-khóc-gif-8906089946918544453

[light knoll]

you don't

[dusty sandal]

always riveted armor

never sleep on -20% cost

[tropic seal]

whats the div template for the anti-air spam?

is it like four inf then all anti air?

[dusty sandal]

use 3 man medium turret, it's best

[dusty sandal]

basically, yes

you need 50 combat width

[tropic seal]

i dont know how many inf we need

do we need any support companies?

[dusty sandal]

support AA
logistics is good too

then it doesn't matter much

[tropic seal]

how do i keep it out of combat

im meant to do that right

[dusty sandal]

that's why you want the high combat width
you ensure you have enough regular divs to hold the line and fill the combat width, then you have your meme div with low defence so that they never get pulled in unless there's no other div available

[tropic seal]

ah aight thanks

[dusty sandal]

divisions are pulled in initial combat based on defence/breakthrough stat, then it reinforces based on initiative, reinforce rate and combat width

the high combat width basically guarantees to never reinforce if you do it properly
the low stat guarantees that it doesn't get pulled in initially

[tropic seal]

aight

[glacial steeple]

SPAA?

[dusty sandal]

AA farm meme

[glacial steeple]

well yeah but youd need SPAA for 50w

AA is 1w

[dusty sandal]

use line arty instead of inf ig ahah

[glacial steeple]

you do inf because the low width means it might get into battle

and you want to retreat instead of getting nuked

[astral heath]

i have my front line set to poland why are they on hungary???

[tropic seal]

whats the inf to spaa ratio

[glacial steeple]

SPAA

[tropic seal]

yeah

like how many inf battlations do i put

[glacial steeple]

SPAA

[keen hemlock]

https://giphy.com/gifs/wtf-bruh-he-doesnt-know-RXtD0Rt2xrUxIvJYkP

[tropic seal]

oh

just spaa

aight

does that have enough org?

[glacial steeple]

it doesnt want to go into combat

you want it in combat reserves

[inner sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/67-6767-676767-cat67-cat-gif-18345003009543756801

[obsidian sun]

I’m playing as Belgium (Better Than Maginot path). Before NCNS, I could stand against Germany alone but now I can’t.
I tried building forts, but Germany just smashed them. I’ve seen people say it’s better to build military factories instead. I also can’t rotate divisions because every province needs to stay manned.
I didn’t take the focuses that boost entrenchment. I tried them in earlier runs but they didn't really help. I use agents to reduce German planning, and I build and add AA but there’s still too much CAS.
As for doctrines I go Assault Infantry, Fire Concentration, Mobile Defence, and Guerilla War for Guerilla Tactics. The problem is that most of this isn’t finished by the time the war starts. Obviously they aren’t developed at the start of the war. Same goes for Special Forces doctrine just don’t have enough XP.
I don't know why it was easier before NCNS. Could you recommend me something?

[astral heath]

what do i do now

its 200 units

[tranquil siren]

can someone please help me out here

😭

im playing as Napoleon IV for the first time and im getting cooked by germany

how did they manage to break the maginot

(keep in mind i also have level 4 forts in the benelux

[sinful star]

They probably destoryed the forts

What is your divison template?

[tranquil siren]

i literally did everything right, got rid of victors of the old war, inefficient economy, and i still cant get defend

maybe i just need AT

but theyre so expensive

my economy is strugglign

[sinful star]

I mean

The Napoleon path is also just not very good

Spamming out empty (meaning no support companies) and 16 widths to just org wall would most likely be good

However you probably want AA to keep support AA in order to prevent getting CAS'd

[tranquil siren]

i dont want to be cheesy but fine

[sinful star]

It's not "cheesy"

[tranquil siren]

ok

[glacial steeple]

empty does NOT mean that

but you can make those yes

[sinful star]

The Soviet Union famously prioritized mass over individual unit sophistication, especially early in WWII

[glacial steeple]

empty divisions are divisions specifically with equipment reinforcement disabled in the div designer, to get stuff like terrain buffs/special forces cap, not for combat

its a different definition

[sinful star]

Words can have more than one meaning

[tranquil siren]

i cant increase my conscription law unless im at war and my war suppourt tanks as soon as i enter

so no mass here😭

[glacial steeple]

also in hoi4 a fully equipped division always beats 2 half equipped divisions

[sinful star]

I have never heared that exploit being referred to as an "empty" divison. However you watch several youtube videos where streamers and content creators refer to divisons as "empty" when they do not want to include the use of support companies

[sinful star]

Do you have to go Napoleon?

or are you just wanting to

[tranquil siren]

idk i watched waterloo the other day so i wanted to larp a lil

[sinful star]

Haha was it good?

[light knoll]

drop the line arty
add one line aa
make it 17w
don't use cav recon and field hospital
use rapid domination instead of guerrilla tactics
ignore picking middle 2 doctrines they don't really do much, doing rangers tree will be more useful
use puppet manpower if necessary
use superior firepower grand doctrine

[bleak helm]

why they retreat ?

[tranquil siren]

ya

[sinful star]

I have never watched it

[tranquil siren]

carlist does seem the most OP tho

unifying spain and france

[sinful star]

What were you attacked by?

[sinful star]

It is a good path

You also get cores yes?

[tranquil siren]

i thikn so i never played

[sinful star]

You should also look into promoting Pétain it is not a terrible path

[rapid stag]

Does Lan Mp works in this game ?

[sinful star]

Lan MP?

Like same internet?

[tropic seal]

yeah it does i thinjk

[rapid stag]

Yes

[rapid stag]

How

[tropic seal]

click mp

in the menu

[sinful star]

No players cannot engage in local multiplayer using the same computer or over a local area network (LAN) without an internet connection

You have to host a server

[rapid stag]

I know but it doesnt show up any servers

[tropic seal]

ah

[sinful star]

and join VIA an ID

[tropic seal]

thats my bad then

[rapid stag]

But there is a lan option

[sinful star]

Show

[rapid stag]

You see refresh Lan

[tropic seal]

ah you still use the connect to server id option

when doing lan i think

[rapid stag]

But It doesnt even show any servers when pressing refresh Lan

Maybe a game dev know how it works

[sinful star]

To my knowledge that button does the same thing as refresh internet and has no other functionality

[rapid stag]

Yes so I guess its broken

[sinful star]

As aforementioned to my knowledge there is no actual LAN system within HOI4

[rapid stag]

I hope they fix it

[sinful star]

Well it appears this has been a thing since ~2018 so good luck https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/lan-game-setup.1141827/

[tropic seal]

we love paradox

[sinful star]

Do you guys not have internet that you can just host over?

Maybe they will release a LAN dlc

[tropic seal]

i mean if youre close to that person hosting via internet shouldnt have muhc of a ping diff

[tropic seal]

thirty dollars for the privilege of hosting a lan game!!

[sinful star]

I'm pretty sure it is as simply as them enabling a protcol in the steam publishing method

Steam has like built in support for server creation

That is how so many small games support multiplayer now a days

[rapid stag]

The issue isnt with ping its with desyncs

[tropic seal]

indie company pdx would go bankrupt if they did this

[tropic seal]

oh

[sinful star]

Yeah https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/multiplayer/networking

Steamworks newtworking literally has built in LAN functionality

[tropic seal]

🥀

[sinful star]

It's not a "true" LAN in the classic sense where you could play completely offline with no internet infrastructure involved at all since you still have to have an authenticated Steam account enabled, but that's like a less than a megabyte per second requirement haha

[sinful star]

Don't worry the LAN DLC will be here soon

How much should enabling a Steamworks feature cost in your opinion

[tropic seal]

at least twenty dollars

not posible with anything less than that

[sinful star]

Good thinking

Let's connect on Linkedin you show potential

[tropic seal]

🔥

[tropic seal]

someone used sp_research_all

[glacial steeple]

sp_ra

save some time

[tropic seal]

lmfao

[marble knot]

@here Im a new player, just got the game two days ago, Im playing German Reich, and my trades cancel randomly, im not in a war, so it cannot be a naval blockade, what are some reasons this could be happening?

[cold bloom]

Maybe show your building tab

[tropic seal]

probably either trade influence

or convoys

or not enough spare civs

or you got embargod

[marble knot]

oh yeah that was the issue

tysm

[slender lodge]

naval invation doesnt work for me

i already have 1k convoys, naval is full readyand i activated it

im on a port location and i have max supplies

but my troops doesnt mode to invade

anyone help

[rose plover]

you need naval supremacy

[spark arrow]

Do you have supremacy?

[rose plover]

supremacy, thats the one yes

[slender lodge]

i never get supremacy and i still can do it (norway zone)

[rose plover]

well you need supremacy to do it otherwise it wont start

[slender lodge]

i dont even need to move boats to invade norway by sea bc i alraedy tried and did it some days ago

[spark arrow]

The AI probably gets it for you

[slender lodge]

how to get it

when i select my ships doesnt give me an option

[rose plover]

by ordering your navy to the region you need

[spark arrow]

Have a fleet in the sea zone

[slender lodge]

i already had that and those wouldnt move so i just reload

[spark arrow]

Its easiest to just select the zones (right click) and put it on the second to left mode ( forgot what it was called)

[spark arrow]

Select individual fleets

[slender lodge]

so do i just move the sips to the zone

[rose plover]

yes

and you need at least 1 ship at naval invading mission

[slender lodge]

why uk has naval supremacy if they dotn even gota ship there

how do i get my naval supremacy

pd: i will NOT produce any boat

[rose plover]

well

its hard with germany to beat the uk navy

since they have few hundred more ships than you

[slender lodge]

bro

this forking unrealistic

i sent my boats

i put alot of planes on naval strike

and uk gets and gets alot of naval superiority

with NO boat there

stfu

[rose plover]

@glacial steeple

[slender lodge]

@glacial steeple

ban this spammer

[wet crater]

Where?

Or have they been banned already?

[slender lodge]

he sent something abt mr beast free money

[wet crater]

Oh its that thing

Again

Its been taken out back clearly

[wet crater]

This makes litterally no sense

You sure the UK isnt unspotted by your task force in the sea zone?

[tropic seal]

has to be on a patrol order

[wet crater]

Oh i see

[tropic seal]

i think strike force gives naval sup too

not sure

[wet crater]

Yeah so the UK 100% has something in that naval zone

Only on patrol and strike force can you attack it with ships

[tropic seal]

you have a buncha crap in reserve

dont use subs for naval supremacy

[wet crater]

I do not think strike force gives naval sup

Patrol does

[tropic seal]

ah idk

[wet crater]

Convoy raiding reduces enemy naval sup

Why you would patrol with subs

Theres one

And only one

Good reason

When the rest of your boats are busy and you need to naval invade some random island

Otherwise just dont

[glacial steeple]

no it dorsnt give enough

enough dominance

[wet crater]

When you got like

50-60 subs

I get enough

[glacial steeple]

barely

[slender lodge]

hi casey

[sinful star]

Barely enough is still enough

[wet crater]

Barely is 100% correct

But barely lets you launch it

[glacial steeple]

it actually depends

i think if its early subs its like 7 per sub and it might not be enough

since you usually need 350

[wet crater]

Is it, remotely optimal, absolutely not, its because I am a lazy woman sometimes

[wet crater]

I was using japans default sub fleet

[tropic seal]

i LOVE carriers!!!

[wet crater]

Without a single loss

[tropic seal]

they get fully vetted after like one big battle

[glacial steeple]

well that has like basic and cruiser subs which each do like 10-20 dominance

[wet crater]

I couldnt figure out how to use them properly

[tropic seal]

wdym

the only manual thing oyu hvae to do is train

[wet crater]

Oh that makes sense

[tropic seal]

after that they do everything normally

[wet crater]

No I mean like making them, not suck

[tropic seal]

just spam deck space

thats it

[glacial steeple]

with it depends i just meant like, theres probably cases where it doesnt wokt

work*

[wet crater]

Like better than the default stuff

[tropic seal]

spam as much deck space as possible

no armor needed

[wet crater]

Yeah no I dont think it works everywhere

[tropic seal]

and you can skimp on aa too if you have battleships

[wet crater]

Its mostly just, sometimes if your already in naval control and need surface ships elsewhere

It can, potentially

Provide enough naval sup to launch an invasion

Without moving task forces from other vital regions

[wet crater]

Then I had the right idea

I am trying to learn navy, and democracy

As the USA

Though I also did the fascist path

It is really funny being able to cap japan early

[tropic seal]

playing the usa isnt my style

[glacial steeple]

have you tried victoria 3

[tropic seal]

you hve to do EVERYTHING for the allies

[wet crater]

Vicky 3 is pain

[tropic seal]

genuinely spoonfeed every single allied nation

[wet crater]

Im not that lazy

[wet crater]

Not shocked

The AI is dumb

[tropic seal]

you have to d-day you have to invade italy you have to cap japan

bah

[glacial steeple]

its like you get to click more construction buttons but less everything else buttons

[slender lodge]

guys

[wet crater]

Capping japan is like, I found you can cap them off the panay incident event

Since you can, get a war goal

[glacial steeple]

its great its great i just had to go through unbelievable amounts of RNG/ai ragebait yesterday

[wet crater]

Remove some faction rules

[slender lodge]

do someone here with all DLC and latest version can make a room with no mods in multiplayer to have fun? it doesnt matter if historical or not

[wet crater]

And naval invade plus make sure to sink the IJN to get war contribution

[slender lodge]

hi casey

[glacial steeple]

hello

[tropic seal]

dyou want to do a pve campaign?

[wet crater]

So you can snuff the chinese out of the deal

[slender lodge]

i wanna play with ppl

thts all

but all rooms i find are horrible

[tropic seal]

yeah

theyre either sweaty beyond belief or like

just chaotic

[slender lodge]

others versions, host kicks for nothing, no all dlc and most have mod

also the rules are t oo much, like i wann ha ve fun

[tropic seal]

i joined a room and got instantly obliterated by some germany with like four hundred mils

or some crap

because they did the release every nation gimmick

[slender lodge]

i joined a room that brazilsaid " pick minor countrys "

i said " no " and ogt bannd

[tropic seal]

playing as brazil in a 'minor countries only' room is basically cheating

brazil is stronger than half the majors

six hudnred factoires by like 43

millions upon millions of mp

core territory bonuses which is useful cuz you core literally the entirety of south america and half of central

and portugal

decent generals

that guy just wants to steamroll everyone unless if hes not allowing himself to do the core everything paths

and if theres no human player on majors then they get easy access to america

which they can just annex

[glacial steeple]

brasil 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷

[glacial steeple]

it gets murdered though by arg

its too slow

its like a year difference in in game scaling, you die too early

its better if you play long games/are restricted

but arg can get into europe by 39 which is when bra is like idk, just getting its scaling started

admittedly you scale further but that only does so much

[tropic seal]

fair

[tropic seal]

eh brazil can get into europe before that right? monarchist?

if theres no argentinian or chilean player though then brazil is broken

no one really bothers to invade you

since its really not worth the effort of setting up dominance through all those sea zones

and japan has bigger fish to fry

[glacial steeple]

no, its slow

argentina is out here annexing portugal+spain+france around that time

brasil just doesnt have IC

wont have argentina, chile, uruguay

its just kinda bad for fastgaming

[tropic seal]

ah fair

[obsidian sun]

Is it supposed to look like that? I just don't understand what "line" means here. Does it mean one battalion or literally the line (↓)?
I also thought and heard that Field Hospitals are important on defense because they give HP which is good when you're being under attack. Is that wrong?
And why Superior Power? Isn't Max Planning better?
And is my Ranger division okay at least for the start of the war?

[tropic seal]

line artillery means any artillery in the combat section fo the div template

field hospitals are not needed on defense

SF and GBP are both good grand doctrines

use whichever one of the two you prefer

[undone basalt]

Is anyone down to vc and help me learn the game? I've already tried a guide for germany and I've started to do my own thing but something isn't working out

[tropic seal]

if youre playing singeplayer you do not need those line anti air divs

[tropic seal]

the 3 support divs you have in there already are the bread and butter of defense

ai will struggle to break through especially if you have it placed in a good position like on mountains or behind rivers

[tropic seal]

what specifically isnt working?

[undone basalt]

Idk. Maybe it's just because I was playing non historical mode. But when I would invade russia my tanks just couldn't break thru. I only really have ~25 hours in the game

Obviously I'm missing something, and i have set up a custom tank template with around 30 organization

[tropic seal]

ahistorical does screw up a few things but it shouldnt change unit stats or their performance

what is your tank division template

send a ss

[undone basalt]

Two lines of medium tanks, then two motorized infantry. With support engineer, anti air and one other on the side

[tropic seal]

those arent great support companies for a tank div

[undone basalt]

I find it really hard to produce tanks, I'm always running out of materials for them

[tropic seal]

tank divs usually use:
assault engineers
field hospitals
Logistics (if you're using IE but theyre aight even without)
flame tanks
anti air if you dont have full green air

[tropic seal]

and i would never use motorised

its like

motorised < cavalary < camels < mechanised

[tropic seal]

add 2 more tank battalions to make it 36 width too

[undone basalt]

Maybe its mechanized idk

[tropic seal]

but if youre like really struggling

i wouldnt use tanks at all

infantry perform excellently in singleplayer

and theyre a lot easy to manage for both your in battle micromanaging and idnustry

infantry are cheaper to produce arm and supply and theyre more forgiving if you screw up and lose some

[slender lodge]

while playing as argentna

do i use infantry or militia?

cuz militia gives 50% bonuses combat for argentina and uses 400 guns instead of 800 that uses infantry

[glacial steeple]

thats just false

the div is just twice as small

so its worse

you just have to make guns, air

air for chile, paraguay

inf for uruguay, brasil, if you wanna go into europe

if you wanna go into americas then make mountaineers

or rangers really

it also depends on path

[slender lodge]

@glacial steeple

argentina special forces (not militia mb) gives 50% cuz lvl 4

and also it takes 400 guns to be trained instead of 800 if it was an infantry one

[blazing jolt]

i fought my ass off for my first time as germany against yugoslavia but italy took most of the land so i ended up with only 1 province while italy got 7 PROVINCES
am i missing something

[slender lodge]

yo guys

guys

guys

if i play singleplayer with all dlc (No mod) can i leave my own faction?

or can i disband it?

i just wnana form the argentinian facist faction so i can advance and get bonuses

bc if i choose axis im gonna enter into a war which im not prepared to fight

[tropic seal]

the land will be redistributed in the peace deal

also might be the first time ive seen someone say they fought hard against yugoslavia of all nations

[blazing jolt]

brooo my supply hubs take so long to build and like italy took most of the land while i fought the troops 💀

[tropic seal]

you dont ever need to build supply hubs in europe

dont waste ic on them

theyre incredibly expensive

[blazing jolt]

actually? but my troops get a big debuff tho

[tropic seal]

ur either doing smth wrong or the debuff isnt that big

europes supply is great

[blazing jolt]

idk cuz i was expanding from austria to the balkans with italy as germany

not much supply things there its blue everywhere

[tropic seal]

blue is not great but its also not bad enough to need you to build supply hubs

did you change the motorisation priority of your armies?

[blazing jolt]

yeah i managed to figure it out after like hours

[tropic seal]

yeah dont waste ic on supply hubs in europe

youll need those in like far eastern russia maybe, still very doable without building any

and central africa

[blazing jolt]

how its going rn

i think i barely did anything 😭

[tropic seal]

why did you take out yugoslavia before poland czechs france norway benelux

??

wait you havent even done fate of czechoslovakia

its 1940 man

you need to do that pre war

[tropic seal]

also your generals are heavily overcapped

[blazing jolt]

i kinda brefriended czechoslovakia

[tropic seal]

uh

aight

but poland the benelux france

and im assuming norway are all alive and kicking

and its 1940

are you on prioritise economic growth

or 4 year plan

[blazing jolt]

yeah i alr did all that im planning to annex poland soon

[tropic seal]

no im asking

which economic path did oyu go down

four year plan

or prioritise economy growth

[blazing jolt]

four year plan

[tropic seal]

brother

its 1940

4 year plan is for early war rush

cuz your economy realistically lasts four years before it goes caput

also 133 factories in 1940 germany is way too low man

[blazing jolt]

idk man im kinda slow and like the management of everything in hoi4 is overwhekming

how do u get more factories i thought it was capped

[tropic seal]

you should have more building slots than 133

did you research concentrated industry?

[tropic seal]

pause the game if u cant keep up

[blazing jolt]

yyes

[tropic seal]

up to what

i mean yeah aight like heres usually the germany timeline

anschluss and czechs before 1938 --> poland, benelux france norway in 1939 --> britain 1940 --> soviets mid/late 1940

britain has to be done before late 1941

because then america joins and it gets a lot more annoying

[glacial steeple]

?

MEFO is meta

[tropic seal]

you mean cancellin gthen taking all the price controls?

[glacial steeple]

its better until like 1941 minimum

[tropic seal]

hes in 1940 with 133 factories

[glacial steeple]

no

[tropic seal]

he shouldve gone peg

if its this playstyle

[glacial steeple]

peg is trash

[tropic seal]

but he has no industry

[glacial steeple]

cancel is better until like 43 or something lol

its dumb

[tropic seal]

oh yeah i always cancel

but i dont think he knew to cancel

[glacial steeple]

thats fine

[tropic seal]

youll realisticalyl finish the war as germany by 1943 anyway

[glacial steeple]

just dont civgreed

[tropic seal]

we all love civ greeding!!

[glacial steeple]

no

as ger its so bad

[tropic seal]

i know

its just funny

i should try civ greed america sometime

america has decent bonuses for factory conversion

dispersed industry america in case germany makes the amerikabomber

thats the play

[glacial steeple]

no build slots

try china tho

[tropic seal]

ah

[tropic seal]

civ greed china??

does that work?

[glacial steeple]

they get build slots if u survive

[tropic seal]

big if if i civ greed

[glacial steeple]

japan ai is rlly bad tho with the limited IC

[tropic seal]

yeah they end up trying to make everything

and end up making nothing

[blazing jolt]

i got absolutely cooked i dont think i know what im doing

[tropic seal]

have you trie dfollowing a guide

like bittersteel's germany guide

honestly though id start with like a minor allies country so you can get carried rather than germany

[blazing jolt]

i saw lots of it it looks simple on paper but i think it turns out differently for me

[blazing jolt]

like which country

[tropic seal]

do you have all the dlcs

[blazing jolt]

yes

[tropic seal]

probably like brazil or something

but to be fair that has a massive industry

but at the same time you're 100% safe

you wont be invaded at all by the axis and they never even get close to you

go down democratic brazil that way the allies cannot declare on you

and you can play at your own pace to figure out the mechanics

britain will invite you to the allies just say yes and join the war so you can learn how the army works

[keen ivy]

need help trying to do the portugal monarchist path but brazil keeps goin full facists making me have to wait until the 1950s to flip them

I have spies in them boosting non aligned and I rush for the Brazil bonuses but it doesnt matter

[tropic seal]

is this ahistorical

historical brazil doesnt go fascist

[keen ivy]

no dlc for brazil this is historical

[tropic seal]

ah

[keen ivy]

any ideas on how to get them to be my concubine nation?

[tropic seal]

i havent really taken a look at brazil without dlcs so im not sure

[keen ivy]

but the thing with this is that they instantly randomly flip from a piechart that has everything to this

[keen ivy]

anything but fixing this game

[tropic seal]

we love pdx

[slender lodge]

guys

@tropic seal

how do i make my puppet states to train troops?

i want chile and paraguay to make troops

[tawdry ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/politics-smile-grin-oh-you-jfk-gif-18346642

[tropic seal]

dont think you can force them

what aare you playing? argentina? just annex them

[slender lodge]

yes i am playing argentina

[tropic seal]

annex them

[slender lodge]

but i want them to make free troops for me

[slender lodge]

how to

[keen ivy]

you train it from your puppets manpower pool

[tropic seal]

the troops will be trash

no point

[slender lodge]

troop is troop

[tropic seal]

he has cores on south america

[tropic seal]

bad troops will just eat your supply and do nothing

[slender lodge]

how to train them

[keen ivy]

go to the templates tab and on the top left with the little button

[tropic seal]

you cant force them to train

[slender lodge]

their troops has anti air and artillery for free

which i dont

[tropic seal]

your troops

dont have anti air and artillery

[keen ivy]

the crown button in the top left shows you your puppets troops

[tropic seal]

?

[slender lodge]

no my troops dont

[tropic seal]

wtf

[slender lodge]

is no needed since theres no war in south america

[tropic seal]

add them in

[slender lodge]

no need

america is weak

i got good supplies and air superiority

[tropic seal]

then just annex chile and south america

why are you doing this puppet thing

[slender lodge]

how to anexx them

[slender lodge]

was that or war

even if war, it would make my supply go down and no free troops that i can use

[tropic seal]

i havent played argentina much but for brazil you can annex everyone diplomatically and core them

i know argentina can also core all of south america

i dont know if its through military or diplo

[slender lodge]

ofc they can

[tropic seal]

but what i do know is tha ta core state > a puppet

[slender lodge]

its a national focus

[tropic seal]

then core it

[slender lodge]

i dont got some countrys and brazil tho

i wanna annex my puppet state

do i low their autonomy?=

[tropic seal]

yeah sure

[keen ivy]

I figured out the issue its this absolutly bullshit thing here

It just straight up lower body blocks you

wtf can I even do

Is there even anything you can do to not get a civil war or what can somebody please help who knows what to do.

[tropic seal]

for some countries theres no way to prevent a civil war

depends on waht country and what path

[keen ivy]

Portugal monarchist which does this even though non aligned is allready higher

But it gets reduced

[halcyon trench]

can anyone help me

[tropic seal]

with what

[halcyon trench]

I can't land on britain

im in lounge one

[tropic seal]

ah i aint at my pc right now

[tropic seal]

naval or paratroopers

[halcyon trench]

both

[tropic seal]

do you have naval and air supremacy? you cant do either without them

[halcyon trench]

I have air supremacy

but I stack drop 24 paratroopers to a tile and can't land

[tropic seal]

does the operation start? like do the paratroopers move there and a green bubble pops up?

[halcyon trench]

It does ye

I got the invasion finally

[fallow orbit]

whats all the dlc i should get as japan , every single one

[obsidian badger]

when i go from ship stats vs design

the speed is usually slower stat side

i have no clue why

its not going by slowest ship in fleet

and it should have enough supply

[halcyon trench]

I am so close to world conquest as USSR except now a fully unified china with no debuffs formed in 1952 without me realizing...

[obsidian badger]

10000000 tanks vs peasants with guns

its not even close...

its like 1 trillion lions vs the sun

except u have like

a million suns

so

[hoary glen]

If you get la Resistance you can use spies to do collaboration governments on China which will massively boost your economy once you capitulate them.

No Compromise no surrender is the most recent content addition specifically about Japan. I'd call it optional tho if you're just going to try it once.

[halcyon trench]

I own 90% of the world, with 3500 factories

I hope i can beat them

Last time I fought china fully unified without their debuffs after dlc it ended horrbily for me

But I have 20000 full meta modern tanks in stockpile with 30-40 of the divisions

[hoary glen]

Spread them out next time. But in 1952 Paratroopers don't work no more bc AI has 20 Divs per tile

[obsidian badger]

heres a tip

[halcyon trench]

thats why i concentrated, but it did work actually and I pulled it off, If i spread them out it won't work bc britain turtle shelled every tile and I needed a port to shovel in my men

[obsidian badger]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-mushroom-cloud-atomic-bomb-bomb-boom-gif-4464831

youre einstein

you should know this

[hoary glen]

If you go down from the north through Manchuria along the coast you will beat them. The rest you can Battleplan with mountaineers. As long as you have 1-2k CAS per Airzone you win.

[obsidian badger]

show the chinese 82 suns

[hoary glen]

Next time just Medium Tanks with Amphib drive and Amtracs will do the trick, I promise you that.

[halcyon trench]

wait i have 91 nukes and 4k strat bombers

lemme just...

HOLY

I just nuked every single chinese victory point

...

All while listening to verify your clock russian empire music...

[slender lodge]

any tip for invading peru?

[storm solstice]

who r u playing as

[slender lodge]

argentina

i puppet chile and paraguya,i conquer and annex bolivia and uruguay but peru is hard to me

[copper hazel]

how to fix this error

[ashen sigil]

Anchluss requires over 50k infantry equipment. Do I need 50k infantry equipment in stockpiles or in the divisions?

[light knoll]

one line aa, not 3. and one more infantry battalion. field hospitals are good but expensive
max planning is not doing anything on the defense. the recovery rate from superior firepower is better

[light knoll]

you do need one line aa if you don't want to get cas'ed to death, even in sp

[tropic seal]

Even with green air?

[light knoll]

obviously no

but you won't have green air

the allies don't use their airforce

against Germany

[proven rain]

why i cant add flametrow tank in sup

[indigo sapphire]

are the current and new div icons good to use?

[light knoll]

design one

and make sure you set flame tank as it's role

[indigo sapphire]

can someone answer?

[blazing jolt]

holy

either the ai is tuff or idk what the hell am i doing

still wont budge

[tropic seal]

casualty ratio is

alright

but the reason why its not budging is because your divs

have negative supply

look at the stuff on the left

[tropic seal]

37 factories by 1940 is a bit low too

you can easily hit 250+ factories by then with brazil

[blazing jolt]

how do i fix that im trying my really best with all the upgrades n everything 😭

[tropic seal]

why arent you coring the other nations in south america?

youve gone down the united states of brazil route

[blazing jolt]

i can core them as in faction?

[tropic seal]

no

core means to make them a core state

faction means theyre stil independent from you

[blazing jolt]

oh idk i just did no fascism in south america

[tropic seal]

you need the bottom focus

united nations of south america

states*

[blazing jolt]

does it matter cuz my opponent got the same thing but they're like hlding stil somehow

[tropic seal]

its easier to hold with terrible supply than to push with terrible supply

optimally you would have good supply

i see youre using like ten bajillion div templates too

you only need like one or two inf div templates max most of the time

[blazing jolt]

💀

idk what to do now tbh

[tropic seal]

you can easily have like this industry in 42

300+ factories

[blazing jolt]

how

[tropic seal]

and 2.28 million m,anpower deployed

i had like 200 infantry divisions deployed and fully equipped by 42

all of a good template

[tropic seal]

coring the other nations

[blazing jolt]

thats how u make more factories?

[tropic seal]

this is without war economy btw

[tropic seal]

more specifically you steal theirs

thats why brazil can afford to stop building civs in early 37

you end up with ~150 civs anyway

[blazing jolt]

oh well im sort of cooked cuz peru wont stop training divisions while i can barely keep mine together