ask-for-help-here

[grim oxide]

The only way to fix no manpower

[storm solstice]

i have no war support

No country for young men

[red grove]

i have 6 million manpower as Sweden B )

[storm solstice]

still on limited cons

[red grove]

Ah, I am on all adults serve lol

[grim oxide]

Why...

[red grove]

idk

i like seeing big numbers

[grim oxide]

Well it give debuffs so it makes other numbers smaller

[red grove]

yeah, but it doesn't really matter now.

I'm not doing any more wars

Well, mission succeeded anyway

I managed to take New Jersey

[grim oxide]

So painful to see that map...

[red grove]

Yes

[wise valley]

Hey everyone, I just got the game yesterday, and nobody to play with, just looking for someone to teach me and become friends, i'm from Germany, but my English is fluent, so it shouldn't be a problem, I really just want someone to play with, and teach me how this works because I am intrigued but stupid.

and I tried to teach it on my own, but my ineptitude is getting less amusing as time goes by.

[dire spoke]

whats the difference between grey suppyl hubs and the orange ones

[twin kayak]

where is that ?

this tab ?

[grim oxide]

Yes

[twin kayak]

were you talking about buying weapons or materials

[opaque beacon]

thats for buying resources

[grim oxide]

Resources

[twin kayak]

I thought you meant guns and equipment

[grim oxide]

Nah

[feral salmon]

soviet union, japan and china ig

japan kinda forces u to go to war with them

[twin kayak]

are these upgrades worth it ?

[grim oxide]

Get reliability...

0 reliability is so bad

[twin kayak]

and if I get to "consumer good factories factor : 100%" can I still trade ?

[twin kayak]

on every plane type ?

[grim oxide]

U need factories to trade so if u have 100% consumers u should have 0 so u cant

[grim oxide]

Yeah because reliability prevents them from breaking

[glacial steeple]

yea

[twin kayak]

my god

I'm a re tard for doing stuff with my navy

I could lose against museum ships

[silk abyss]

NO If reliablity = 0 Your plane failed before it try to fly

[glacial steeple]

thats not how relia works

[silk abyss]

UK have a strong navy than u

[silk abyss]

I am making a joke

[twin kayak]

Is there a way to train myself on how to build and use navies ?

[glacial steeple]

hes asking for help :> be careful with your words

[twin kayak]

I am completely lost

[wild rune]

either trial by fire or extensive youtube videos

[silk abyss]

Yeah but the youtube videos are most with all DLC

So you gotta search video which are old which are alos without DLC

[wild rune]

MTG is base game now

[silk abyss]

What do you mean with MTG

[wild rune]

man the guns dlc

[silk abyss]

oh right. That is now base game. I forget and thank you

[twin kayak]

each time I land, they are there in 2 days

I can't push to nothing

[glacial steeple]

notice how you dont surround nor take the port

when you should be doing both

while landing

[twin kayak]

so, more paratroopers, put them around the port and take the port ?

[glacial steeple]

large para divs

i doubt yours are very large

and for your current invasion youd land on these x spots and attack inwards

[glacial steeple]

those are teeny

[twin kayak]

better ?

[glacial steeple]

awesomesauce

[twin kayak]

how many divs on each tile

[formal galleon]

i dont know what i did but i've uninstalled twice and unsubscribed from all workshop content and this is what i get every time i try to play for the past few months

[glacial steeple]

1-2

max 3

[twin kayak]

am at the max with 10

[grim oxide]

Launcher problem?

[formal galleon]

yeah im looking it up

[grim oxide]

Just reinstall paradox launcher

[formal galleon]

thats what i did

its good now

[twin kayak]

worked out great

hell yeah

[opaque zealot]

when you play in milenium dawn how do you deal with these troops mixed from a-z

you gotta change them and there is so much to choose from that you know even know what to give your divisions

[glacial steeple]

force attack ?

also you didnt hit/take all tiles

so then they get no penalty

[glacial steeple]

standardize into 2

[opaque zealot]

wdym

just make 2 templates

and what you put cuh idk about milenium dawn'

more about vanilla

[twin kayak]

what does that mean ?

[untold wedge]

I want your help I play germany and I have around 50 hours on the game but I always mess it up when I organize my front lines because sometimes they don't attack while I have pressed the button to go forward when I attack France. Any help ? And please if someone answers me pls tag me so I can see it

[oak jasper]

If you're trying to punch straight through the Maginot, default aggressiveness may have them say "nope, not attacking that fort."

[twin kayak]

are you attacking the maginot ? If yes, it's normal that it doesn't move

that's why you shoud take the focus that gives you claims on the benelux

[oak jasper]

... which, unless you've specifically prepared for it (put up CAS, general with fortress buster, siege artillery ability active, etc), trying to punch straight through the Maginot is unwise.

[untold wedge]

Yeah today that I played it was a mess I was attacking Netherlands ans Belgium and the focus was the <around the maginot >

[twin kayak]

to be faire, this campaign, I pushed through the maginot, but that's because I had 120 divs pushing together

so it works, it's just not recommended

[untold wedge]

I think I had around 60 divs with like 30 light tanks

Or more divs I don't really remember

[twin kayak]

air superiority ?

still, the benelux route is the easiest (+ you get the "cease x countrys gold reserve" for the mefo bills)

[untold wedge]

Yes everything is had was above France but I had the basic airplanes i didn't give much attention to the airplanes research

[wet crater]

You kind of need planes

[twin kayak]

but that's only usefull if you took the 4 years plan route

[untold wedge]

This is what I always do

[wet crater]

Yeah with historical germany, 4 year plan

[untold wedge]

That's what I do

[wet crater]

Alt history, I normally prioritize economic growth

Since you have to fight a civil war

And that slows things down

[untold wedge]

So what is the best way to attack France?

[wet crater]

Benelux

[untold wedge]

Ok because I chose around the maginot

[wet crater]

You hold maginot, take focus, around maginot

Then just, blitzkrieg

You want to be fast before the ai can pump a ton of british units in

[untold wedge]

Oh okay

[wet crater]

France caps stupidly quick, you shouldnt need to push deep

Unlike the soviet union

Also, it helps a lot to attack the dutch, before belgium

Cap them

Then reposition and attack belgium

If you fight the dutch first the allies cant reach them

So you get them kind of for free

And it makes the thrust into belgium easier

Since it makes their line more stretched

When you do the slam, you need to slam

Stalling out early means a long, long war

[untold wedge]

This what I did but at the end I messed up the front lines because I had given them a narrow where to attack but the attacked and the number was 12 they had too many forts maybe

[wet crater]

And the allies can scale better

[wet crater]

The french shouldnt have forts in the north

Were you fighting under red air with no CAS?

And what divisions were you using

[untold wedge]

Yeah I think so

[wet crater]

Thats your problem

[untold wedge]

Normal ones and light tanks

[wet crater]

The CAS from the enemy destroys your equipment

And tanks are expensive

You need to get good planes out

And win the sky

[untold wedge]

What is the CAS ?

[wet crater]

Close air support

[untold wedge]

Oh okay .

[wet crater]

CAS deals damage to ground units

[untold wedge]

So air support and troops?

[wet crater]

Fighters shoot down enemy cas

Yeah you want some infantry also

[untold wedge]

With artillery or smt ?

[wet crater]

Support artillery is good

[untold wedge]

Okay thanks a lot my friend

[wet crater]

No problem

[opaque zealot]

@glacial steeple can you tell me what do you mean and help me before laeaving??

[wild rune]

standardize into 2 main divisions that you use

[opaque zealot]

which ones should i use

and that woul mean to disband my army

[wild rune]

no

convert

[wild rune]

whichever ones look cool and are ic efficient but still decent

[opaque zealot]

bro there is too much in hoi4 widht soft attack hard breaktrhought organization speed

too much

[glacial steeple]

im just not on discord rn

[twin kayak]

force attack only for the paratroopers or also for the first divs arriving

[near otter]

hi guys I'm back to the game after a long time and don't know much about the new focus tree, I pretty much finished all land wars in 1939 what do I do now?

Do I attack the soviets now or wait

[wet crater]

If you cant paradrop or sealion

Prepare to be naval invaded

A lot

[feral salmon]

sea lion

[wet crater]

What navy has he got though?

The starting german fleet is mostly subs

[feral salmon]

set 6 divisions to naval invade in dover, and 6 divisions to also naval invade in porthsmouth, and then just wait until the uk moves their fleets elsewhere and bring all of your fleet in the english channel, if they bring their fleet back immediately cancel the patrol

[wet crater]

I dont think that trick works anymore

[feral salmon]

and once you land bring ALL of your divisions

[feral salmon]

it does

[wet crater]

I have genuinely never seen that happen

[feral salmon]

ive done it in all of my 87 games of germany

and its worked in all of them

[glacial steeple]

paras so they dont die to org loss

[wet crater]

After the new dlc?

The naval one

[feral salmon]

yes

[wet crater]

Huh

I think I might have given the AI too much credit

On not being dumb

[feral salmon]

man the guns riight?

[wet crater]

No, no compromise no surrender

[feral salmon]

yes i have that too

[wet crater]

It revamped naval stuff, again

[wet crater]

Honestly the new navy system is dope

Unironically

i just suck at it

I am trying to learn it

And also learn how to play minor countries

[feral salmon]

i don't play MP so i don't really need to

[wet crater]

LIke I do fine on most majors

[wet crater]

Fair, I am just thinking I might want to learn since I do MP in a sense

[feral salmon]

the navy is interesting but i'm just too lazy to learn about it

[wet crater]

Yeah thats fair

I have found the super heavy battleship is near useless though

Same with subs

I cannot get subs to do more than jack squat

[feral salmon]

subs got nerfed to the slums of hell right

[wet crater]

I have tried

I genuinely dont think its worth spending docks on them

Honestly

Long as you have depth charges

[feral salmon]

they were the only hope at building a navy for minors

[wet crater]

Now thats down to I assume destroyers

[feral salmon]

• the most recent update made it worse

[wet crater]

Since subs simply, die

Constantly

I have genuinely tried to use subs

They dont ever work

[obsidian badger]

thats bad news for my 173 submarines

lol

[wet crater]

I have tried convo raiding with them

They get sunk

20-30 at once

[obsidian badger]

how about fleet submarines with rubber coating

[wet crater]

Dunno

Havent tried those ones

[obsidian badger]

might be a visibility problem

shitty submarines would get sunk regardless

[feral salmon]

and either way, to my experience and opinion, all of the majors which are focused on the navy (excepting italy) are basically just boring

[wet crater]

They are subs with two torpedo launchers

[feral salmon]

so learning the navy has just no reason to for me

[wet crater]

I would honestly say britain is more than just a naval power

[obsidian badger]

is japan boring?

[wet crater]

You just need to put the fleet up to not get sealioned

[obsidian badger]

the main reason i dont like japan is just naval invading all the pacific

[feral salmon]

yes

[obsidian badger]

i dont wanna deal with island hopping

[wet crater]

Beyond that its just, land war in africa

[feral salmon]

so repetitive.. all the paths just still force you to go to war with china

[obsidian badger]

challenge

hungary navy

lol

[feral salmon]

and if you don't, you'll just be broke

[obsidian badger]

make an aircraft carrier as hungary

[feral salmon]

worst thing in the game oat

[wet crater]

Yeah japan basically is forced to fight china in some form

[feral salmon]

especially since the new navy dlc

[obsidian badger]

there is a

[wet crater]

Beyond that, japan is quite interesting

[obsidian badger]

chinese-japan alliance focus

i believe

[wet crater]

Yeah but thats dumb

[obsidian badger]

where u fight communism

[wet crater]

Better to seize their industry

[feral salmon]

communist china is just way more fun

[wet crater]

and then fight communism

[obsidian badger]

bro u just said you-

ok whateevr

u just dont like any option

[wet crater]

I did a run where the war is, in 1946

I opened a north africa front

Capped the soviets

[feral salmon]

also japan ai is justannoying too

[wet crater]

Invaded alaska

[feral salmon]

tryna do my life in europe as germany

[wet crater]

And an holding the middle east

[feral salmon]

and japan jus declares on me

[wet crater]

As japan

[obsidian badger]

japan ai is dogshit at pacific war

[wet crater]

Its a mess

[feral salmon]

no shit

[twin kayak]

at least, I'm a bit further

[feral salmon]

japan ai is shit at everything

[obsidian badger]

i have never seen them actually blitz allied colonies

[feral salmon]

their homeland has 1 troop on a lucky day

[obsidian badger]

they cant even take guam

[twin kayak]

but now, there qre 50 gazillions of them

[obsidian badger]

at this point just add a scripted event where japan gets dutch east indies for free

cause japan will never get them natually

[wet crater]

Its a mess because the allies have too many divisions

Even though I conquered the entire far east

[feral salmon]

like everytime japan just declares on me they just finish like this

[wet crater]

I still havent quite figured out how capping the US and UK in one war as japan works

Honestly

[feral salmon]

it doesn't

[wet crater]

Japan can cap both

[feral salmon]

or it takes a while

[wet crater]

Suprisingly

Its just slow

Really slow

[feral salmon]

and usa just starts blitzing islands in 1943

[wet crater]

I did manage to cap ethiopia though

[wet crater]

Tell tht to the bashed US navy

[twin kayak]

and air dominance looking good

[wet crater]

I sunk most of the US and royal navy

Early

Since japan has the ability to wreck both

Japan isnt really a navally focused nation per se

Its more a nation that uses its navy to not get naval invaded

While fighting a land war in asia

A big one

Its really easy to conquer india and most of the dutch east indies

[feral salmon]

as japan i just annex china by may 1937 with like 30k losses then just do nothing until 1940

[wet crater]

And bash the royal navy

[feral salmon]

such a fun experience

[wet crater]

Honestly I am tempted to try fighting france early

[feral salmon]

as what

[wet crater]

Or rushing a way to get a war goal

Japan

I kind of want to see what would happen

[feral salmon]

so you can invade uk easily?

[wet crater]

Oh invading the UK is easy

Just get mil access from the germans

Since japan can flaten the royal navy with little issue

[feral salmon]

yeah but france makes it even easier

[wet crater]

The royal navy is spread super thin

So its easy enough to smash it early

[twin kayak]

how tf does the uk have so many planes

[feral salmon]

you could just annex china in 1937, justify on france, declare, annex them and then kill uk so on with the usa

that's actually a pretty good idea

[wet crater]

The US navy is also quite smashable if you can catch the battleships and crusiers

[wet crater]

Oh thats the fun part

Japan, is non aligned

Meaning you need

[feral salmon]

you can get fascist by 1938

so mh

[wet crater]

50% world tension

[feral salmon]

justify on france in 1938?

[wet crater]

But yeah japan can flip by 1938

So justifying on france actually is a good idea

Would make life too easy though

[feral salmon]

i mean it's pretty hilarious

[wet crater]

The problem for me is by 1946

My japan run is like

I have a UK

[feral salmon]

europe looking normal till you look at france annexed by japan..

schizophrenia

[wet crater]

With 6.3M dead

Still fighting

And the US

Along with, weirdly chile that isnt in the allies

Its just there

[feral salmon]

if you say annex UK by 1939, you can just invade usa in like 1940 thru canada

[wet crater]

At war with me

For no reason

[wet crater]

I did that once

I wanted to see what would happen if I didnt

[feral salmon]

most likely guaranteed a nation you declared war on, chile late games does thaat

[wet crater]

No, chile declared

On me

For no reason

[feral salmon]

schizophrenia

[wet crater]

Dunno how or why

[feral salmon]

peak

[wet crater]

They cant even fight me

They are genuinely just there

[feral salmon]

chile is always a pain late game

i hate them

[wet crater]

Like, they cant reach me

[feral salmon]

and you can't even invade thel

[wet crater]

Since they arent in the allies

[feral salmon]

so you have the war iicon

standing there

for years

[wet crater]

So I am perpetually at war

Oh and I am at war with brazil

So brazil is likely to become a major

[feral salmon]

i usually just try

to ally with peru if i'm fascist

[wet crater]

Just to screw with me

[feral salmon]

and blitz chile from there

[wet crater]

Chile I honestly cannot be bothered with

Unless they join the allies

I am happy to ignore them

And focus on capping the allies

[feral salmon]

if they're in the allies, you just get to annex them in the peace deal so it's better

[wet crater]

I dunno how in the world I am meant to force a sealion

[feral salmon]

being at war with them AND the allies is arguably worse

[wet crater]

Since I am so stretched

[wet crater]

Yeah I am hoping they join

So that I can cap them for a conference

Along with the allies

[wet crater]

Like, I have naval supremacy

So how in the world

Am I meant to deal with the digusting amount of UK and US divs

[feral salmon]

why do i feel like the german monarchis tpaath is overrated

[wet crater]

Cap the UK

And invade the US

And pray to the lord brazil doesnt become a major

This is kind of the point where its probably winnable

I havent taken over 3m lost

But it is such a pain

And its not fun

Like this is a game

If its not fun I am not super bothered to finish the job

[feral salmon]

and this is supposed to be how you play japan

on historical

[wet crater]

I can live with this

Since I actually capped the soviets

So like

The allies cant really, win

But I also havent worked out how to cap them

Its definitely doable

Like this is very much a winnable position

[near otter]

I tried but they smoked my navy

[brazen solstice]

so look

i start hoi4

and it says this

but i disabled all mods

and verifiedmy files 10 million bajillion times

[static turret]

İf nothing else works id say to get your saves folder copied somewhere else and reinstall the game

[brazen solstice]

i did tihs

[grim oxide]

Draw the map

[desert forum]

does the great wall give a defense buff

[vital geode]

Yes it does

Entrenchment

Not actual defense i believe

[brazen glade]

When do I stop deploying troops?

Sometimes I have enough and feel like it’s unneeded for a lot of them

[vital geode]

For me, when I'm about to run out of manpower on extensive

[brazen glade]

I play Germany and I feel like 3m is enough

[glacial anchor]

Where do i go to play actually serious mp games? The ones on the in game mp browser normally have barely any people in them and devolve into ahistorical shitshows

[storm solstice]

Is an offensiveinf template with 8 inf one medium spg, one line AA, standard support companies good as a starter tank div on a low IC country

[wind junco]

I'm Korean. I'm playing this game for the first time today, so could someone who speaks Korean possibly help me?

[storm solstice]

Plenty of guides on youtube. Watch any "Germany guide" in 2026 and youll get a hang of the game. if you cant understand much english, then ig i hope u find ur korean guy (or use subtitles)

[obsidian badger]

yeah the ai in my game can apparently have this

bwokey

ignore the government modifiers

[slender lodge]

@dusty sandal

Do i cancel MEFO Bills?

Im on 1939 and i already got most of europe

[versed tapir]

hey so me and my friend were trying to play hoi4, and in the launchers they are identical, but whenever we load up the main screen, the versions are different. they have the same exact date and time, but the numbers and letters in parenthesis are different

[storm solstice]

dont mefo bills cancel themselves when u start ww2

[storm solstice]

do u have mods installed

that changes teh checksum (that number/letter code)

[slender lodge]

@dusty sandal

Do u recommend me to Make Tiger as germany?

My main production line is gonna be Panzer IV (im playing with a friend) but i wanna have some elite divitions that uses Tiger

What you think abt it

[austere roost]

It's not good

Stick with medium or heavy

Part of this game is learning you can't do everything so pick a few and do them well

[thorn trail]

hey! i really need a help with a naval bombers. Can somebody help me please? 🙂

[storm solstice]

Can someone pls summarize the benefit of grandbattleplan >> armor over mobile warfare

[proven rain]

why is the terrain bad

[glossy hatch]

does theatre training still gives 50% chance for a brilliant strategist? or some other Spirit ?

[hoary glen]

GBP is 10% planning and that's 10% more attack, defense and Breakthrough. Don't know what Mobile gives rn, but it's not giving flat attack boosts afaik

[light knoll]

mobile warfare gives you division speed

that's about it

[hoary glen]

So it's essential for the jet engine build. I see

Ty

[hoary glen]

What help do you need?

[hoary glen]

Do what you enjoy, you have infinite IC on Germany

[hoary glen]

No. It changes to some spirit called economy of conquest or smth and you need to steal gold to keep it low

[hoary glen]

Launcher Checksum is the one of the vanilla game. If the in game is different to that you're loading the game with mods enabled. Make sure the right mod set is selected and it contains the mods you want to have

[distant kite]

Guys, i just downloaded HOI4 and i can't even understand a 2 hour complete beginner guide, any basic tips?

[grim oxide]

Get rid of ur wife and play hoi4 24/7

[arctic stream]

turn away before it consumes you

[arctic stream]

what tutorial did u watch

was it the one by hoi4

[distant kite]

No, some random youtuber in my native language

[grim oxide]

From what year

[distant kite]

I ain't got wivey gng

[arctic stream]

how recent

[distant kite]

Wait lemme check

[grim oxide]

Get wife and get rid of it

[distant kite]

2024

[grim oxide]

Outdated

Get 2026 tutorial

[distant kite]

Nah i don't wanna pay child support

[distant kite]

Ok

[glacial steeple]

gm

[inner sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shoo-away-gif-13653609800890535042

[crystal torrent]

What’s the best early medium tank design ?

[twin kayak]

I always run out of equipment as germany, even though I try to produce as many guns and support equipment as possible

what can I do against it

[light shard]

is there a way to get rid of the Shanghai International Settlement state modifier?

[cold bloom]

I like maximizing speed, max radio, max howitzer

[grim oxide]

Get more factories and maybe resources

[still bay]

Im just gonna be honst here i dont know how to play no tutorials help the official one does not tell you how to play it just talks about every singular feature the other are to simple all i know is how to make a frontline but for some reason when i attack with 5 regiments against one ethopian one it fails same with absolutely any other offensive i try

[grim oxide]

Supply

[twin kayak]

doesn't that take away civs ?

[still bay]

You just answered with one word supply okay how do i get supply

[grim oxide]

Yeah buying resources cost civs

But if u dont have resources ur mils useless

[twin kayak]

I was told that building civs was useless as germany, so I full spam refineries and mils at the start and then put everything into trade ?

[grim oxide]

Up to u

[twin kayak]

idk, that's why I'm asking

I don't know how to balance this

trade vs building stuff

[grim oxide]

Buy as much resources as u need

[still bay]

Hello?

[grim oxide]

Supply hubs

[still bay]

AND HOW DO I MAKE THE FRICKIN SUPPLY HUBS

[twin kayak]

build them

these 2 things

[grim oxide]

Also ports

[twin kayak]

also do this

if you can afford

[still bay]

And how do i make them

I also dunno about the econmy crab

And for some reason i went into civil war in like 1939

[twin kayak]

just click on the province where they are needed I guess

press f4 and see which regions have shitty supplie lines

[twin kayak]

which nation are you playing ?

[still bay]

Italy

I left i may or may not have raged quitted

[twin kayak]

welcome to the beginners club

[still bay]

uh thats not helping

[vital inlet]

Would this template work when invading malta,UK, Gibraltar and greek islands?

I feel like its a bit over kill

[warm marlin]

can someone help, got the game yesterday, tried playing as the soviet union, got viped off the map by poland even built max forts on the border at the start and they still found ways to advance when they had half the amount of units i had

[dusty sandal]

it'll work

[uncut narwhal]

i normally use this

[dusty sandal]

it's a very good marine div if you can't get the mountaineer doctrines

[vital inlet]

ok 👍

[still bay]

Can anybody actualy help me

[dusty sandal]

that rangers should be swapped for light tank recon if you can afford it. Make the design to stack breakthrough

[vital inlet]

Any template for garrisons, in terms of dday/med

I am playing italy if that helps out

[uncut narwhal]

oh yea i accidentally deleted light tanks production so i just opted for it

[uncut narwhal]

kill the uk

[dusty sandal]

9inf (can be reduced to 8 if you're short on equipment), support arty, support aa

only garrison the ports

[dusty sandal]

what do you need help with ?

[vital inlet]

okay, any logistics or recon as well or?

[vital inlet]

thats the idea, but just in case

[dusty sandal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UadQ3euApmM
this will help to understand the basics, it's not the best but it's good enough to start with

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcp1ooD_YqY
this video is very good and will help you with general division design

[warm marlin]

appreciate it

[dusty sandal]

Segl has a lot of good vids on his channel, he's a top player

[dusty sandal]

nope, you want garrisons to be cheap and good at defence to delay the enemy

recon is always useless except for rangers and light tank recon which are used, depending on the means you have (rangers being cheaper than light tank), for offensive templates

[dusty sandal]

also, based on what you said, do not build forts. Forts are something so niche in their actual use that almost all new players overinvest in them and die because of it. Put them out of your mind until you know how combat and divisions work

[vital inlet]

ah okay, and I guess I assume that the player on germany has like 4 tanks in behind to assist the defence?

[dusty sandal]

some countries are better for forts than others (soviets not being one of them) but in general, forts will be wasted or misused. If you really wan tto build forts, never exceed lvl 3 as their cost stack on top of each other

[still bay]

I dont know how to play the game the tutorial does not help so uhh everything i guess

[dusty sandal]

#ask-for-help-here message
take a look at these two vids, bottom one being the best quality but limited in scope. Take a look at segl's channel, he has a lot of tutorial vids
Bittersteel is fine to start off with, not the best but it'll be fine for a start

[still bay]

yeah itsl ike all the other

Bscly they are either too simple to actualy explain the game properly or too complicated to understand anythin

[grim oxide]

It aint even hard...

[still bay]

BRO WHAT

I may or may not be only asking for help because steam refunds didnt wanna give me a refund for the game because i spend 300 zł on the game and apparently i dont have a reason so might aswell figure out the mechanics

I also spend an all nighter already watching tutorials i didnt figure out anything

[dusty sandal]

segl's video isn't complicated at all
Bittersteel's tutorial can be confusing if you don't have the DLCs that add the designers, in which case check the 2025 version where he explains what works. But to be fair, with no designer, only the tank division changes, navy composition is still light cruiser spam and deathstack, airforce is just produce the updated plane for current year or don't produce planes

[grim oxide]

Just change to older version that was before supply was reworked...

[dusty sandal]

if there's no technical reason and you played for more than 2 hours, steam will not refund the game. That's perfectly normal

[still bay]

HOW DO I DO THAT AND THATS NOT GONNA HELP I DONT KNOW EITHER OF THE SUPLY YSTEMS

[dusty sandal]

that's a bad advice anyway. Don't do that

[grim oxide]

Older one was alot easier

[dusty sandal]

old supply system is abhorent

it is easier, sure, but it's also very frustrating

[grim oxide]

It good for learning stuff

[still bay]

And how do i do that

[dusty sandal]

properties > select the version that predates No Step Back DLC (compare with wiki)

[grim oxide]

And basically most of the stuff in the game will be same because he dont have dlcs

[dusty sandal]

horrible focus trees :(

and when they'll want to play current version they'll struggle a lot

[grim oxide]

More balanced tho because older ones are weaker

New focus trees are just too strong in my opinion

[dusty sandal]

true, stat bloat is a big issue

[glacial steeple]

hii

[storm solstice]

Is there any way to win as Iran without cheating

and days of planning and trial/eeror

[dusty sandal]

win against who ? or what ?

[grim oxide]

Yes

[glacial steeple]

@velvet sluice how are you ?

[steel bronze]

is there a way to disable the hungarian focus tree update in gottedamerung whilst keeping the german focus tree

cuz holy shit the hungarian focus tree nerfs the early game territorial expansion of hungary's austro-hungarian focus tree

[velvet sluice]

im good, wbu

[bold canopy]

if i attack france as italy like this i will lose100% ?

[trail reef]

how can i do the chinese civil war

[proven rain]

why i lose againt germany i

with soviet unio

[glacial steeple]

im okay

[velvet sluice]

happy to hear that

are you enjyoing the latest expansion?

[grand iris]

yes, your men dont have guns or artillery weakining their stats and strenght

[dusty sandal]

start as prc, kill nationalists

[trail reef]

and prc is

[bold canopy]

so i should buìld more war industry?

[glacial steeple]

which one

[dusty sandal]

commie china

[trail reef]

ok thanks

[velvet sluice]

japan china

[glacial steeple]

ojhhh hoi4

[proven rain]

how to win against

germany

[dusty sandal]

as who ?

[glacial steeple]

ussr

[grand iris]

build military factories because they produce equipent for your army

[proven rain]

unio

[rain shore]

is this good?

i am playing as italy

and that is what i sunk

here the whole battle

[trail reef]

what does this mean

[storm solstice]

I basically mean a world conquest

[dusty sandal]

definitely possible, but requires planning

[carmine thunder]

Does division training time mean the time taken to train divisions already deployed or train divisions not deployed yet or both

[twin kayak]

what does that mean ?

[twin kayak]

man, how do you get such great results ? My navy could lose to museum ships and fishing vessels ...

[languid trout]

yeah

id say fascist iran is the best way to go

u dont get as much cores as imperial path

but u still get good cores

ur fascist, so u can justify whenever and do whatever you want

and u can make factions

[proven rain]

bruh can someone finally help ne

[languid trout]

if u turn off historical, and france doesnt join the allies or the allies disappear, and italy stays fascist, u can make a faction with italy and paradrop france

[twin kayak]

how do I get that up ?

[languid trout]

thats assuming you're fine with paradrop cheese though

[potent rapids]

both i believe

[potent rapids]

hold dnieper line and use field marshal front line atleast

also change nkvd, calv and mountaineer to inf

[languid trout]

take brest litovsk and bialystok

then go into warsaw

and lodz

and after that, rush to danzig and konigsberg

for encirclement

btw i dont recommend doing an offensive into slovakia

unless ur going for krakow

[potent rapids]

i dont think thats possible considering like 80% of his unit isnt even full equiped 😭

[languid trout]

yeah ik that

i saw it

i was about to tell him to wait for equipment to come

[potent rapids]

should retreat and hold a defensive line imo

his about to get pocketed in slovakia

[languid trout]

however

idk why tf he doesnt have tanks

he should not be using infantry, nkvd, nor cavalry to push

[potent rapids]

it might be there somewhere..

[languid trout]

especially against germany

[potent rapids]

cant really see much

[serene karma]

More task forces

[carmine thunder]

theres also a thing called division mobilasation speed so thats why im asking

[serene karma]

Not deployed

[serene karma]

Mobilisation speed is how fast ur recruitable population increases to its max value

[twin kayak]

man, how do yall keep these up

[glacial steeple]

try having a stockpile

never go into negative

[dusty sandal]

don't battleplan endlessly on the enemy

[twin kayak]

I had 50k stockpile, then went at war with the baltics, norway, danemark, yugoslavia and romainia (+poland that somehow reappeared)

Ok, that sounds a bit much

I admit

no wonder I'm in the negative xD

[twin kayak]

what does that mean "to battleplan" ?

[oak jasper]

It's the time required to raise a new division from scratch, assuming you wait until they're fully trained (level 2, trained).

This does not include time for field exercises to reach regular (level 3), though I'm pretty sure longer training time means less XP/day from exercises.

[glacial steeple]

resistance? garrisons? training new units? losing too much strenght while attacking?

[oak jasper]

Raiding efficiency is how quickly raiding group A can reinforce raiding group B when B finds an enemy.

Low raiding efficiency probably means that you are trying to cover a lot of sea regions, or that you're hitting a region at the far edge of your ships' range.

[oak jasper]

Broad-front offensives with infantry will do that to you.

Typically, the bulk of your army is infantry set to a frontline order with an inactive offensive line order (for planning bonus, just in case). They don't attack, just hold.

You then push with spearheads of 2-4 specialized offensive divisions, most often 36W armor or special forces. These will lose manpower and equipment much faster than your defensive divisions, but this can be ameliorated with good templates.

[dusty sandal]

that means activating a large offensive order

and not thinking about all the red bubbles that appear

[bold flower]

Playing as Austria and can get to click on this same with poland is there a way around it?

[oak jasper]

There's a reason why large armored divisions are so popular for offensives: while their equipment is much more expensive to replace, they make up for it with the synergy of multiple stats.

HP: reduces equipment and manpower losses when you take strength damage.
Attack: defeats enemies more quickly.
Breakthrough: reduces the number of attacks you take on the offense.
Armor: if the enemy cannot pierce your armor, you take reduced damage.
Hardness: most divisions have much less hard attack than soft attack, so a hard division will take reduced attacks.

[subtle thorn]

does infastructure increase construction speed of a mil fac or civ

[sweet summit]

Yes

[subtle thorn]

really?

why didint i get the achivment play it sam

i have 100 network

on casablanca

[grizzled surge]

Does licensing let you use original model?

[carmine thunder]

is there a reason why some mountaineer marines immediately fully deorg as soon as they start battling towards coast during naval invasion

[silk abyss]

If you have new DLC then no. Game without DLC will give you bonus of construction speed

[dusty sandal]

of all buildings built in the state

[dusty sandal]

it has nothing to do with DLCs, it was in hoi 1.0 already

[twin kayak]

Yeah, ok. i usually put all of my armies at 1 frontline and push with all of them together.

I have no clue on how to attack efficiently

[warm marlin]

genually how do i fix these stats

[dusty sandal]

use divisions made for attacking
that have high soft atk, breakthrough and HP

[dusty sandal]

make better template and use newer equipment

also, equip your divs

the stats come from the equipment they use : no equipment = no stat

[glacial steeple]

lot of things

[warm marlin]

that is very helpful thanks

[glacial steeple]

idk where to start, because its really a lot

changing division layouts can help, if you hover over the attacks it will show modifiers which matter greater than really anything else

equipment naturally, your units arent equipped

[lucid torrent]

observe(spectator) command mess with AI behavior? So what should I do to observe AI in their normal condition?

[dusty sandal]

it doesn't

[warm marlin]

the original stats are way higher for some reason

[dusty sandal]

#ask-for-help-here message

[lucid torrent]

PRX wiki say it do?

[warm marlin]

how do i get experience

[lucid torrent]

You better start a new run, by this point fixing isn't a good option

[warm marlin]

oh i did a while ago

got wiped off the map by poland

[dusty sandal]

observing a country as an observer doesn't prevent ai from working
tag switching to them do

[sinful thistle]

i saw a youtube video of a guy playing switzerland and his focus tree was much bigger than mine, is that a mod or something

[dusty sandal]

mod or By Blood Alone DLC

[sinful thistle]

oh right the DLCs

[warm marlin]

btw it says here that my units have 0% attrition

but theyre getting supplies

[sinful thistle]

check ur logistics, i had that thing too where they had food but i was in gun debt

[warm marlin]

\

not in debt

[dusty sandal]

#ask-for-help-here message
the lack of full orange bar means they're underequipped or undermanned

[warm marlin]

but the orange bar of the polish is the exact same in the pic

[lucid torrent]

yes, and you got red air, terrain debuff,...

[twin kayak]

so mechanized infantry or medium tank divs

[dusty sandal]

you are also attacking with terrain penalities, and they probably don't have the same template you do

[dusty sandal]

or special forces with required support companies

[twin kayak]

this is my army rn

[twin kayak]

marines, mountaineers and paratroopers ?

why are they so different than normal infantry ?

I'm currently fighting no one, why are they still taking equipment ?

[warm marlin]

upkeep ig

[proven rain]

best dlc

[lucid torrent]

They got better stats, more reslience to terrain debuff

[glossy hatch]

how do i grind generals if im at war? like do i spam attack? because that cost much equipment and manpower

[glacial steeple]

thats not how the game works

[glacial steeple]

ah your garrison template (occupation) is eating your everything

check your garrison law and template in occupied territories tab

youve likely taken huge casualties to it too

[twin kayak]

what does garnison do ?

I've pretty much all my troops on 1 or 2 frontlines and nothing on the rest of my empire

[lucid torrent]

Garrison is a whole different mechanic.

From what you say, i am pretty sure you haven't checked all the necessary mechanic.

[twin kayak]

Well, I've had the game for a week, so not really

[glacial steeple]

its offmap, click on the flag top left, find the occupied territories tab

[twin kayak]

I still don't have a clue on how to use the navy efficiently

[glacial steeple]

you will have an option to select a template and law, you have no other control over this

on map divisions are irrelevant

[twin kayak]

so, what do I need to know and do ?

[subtle thorn]

does someone have goood mountanier div

template

[glacial steeple]

now on the top left

you have options

it will tell you the cost, and how many you need

rigght now its extremely high

[subtle thorn]

pick icon with horse and edit the horse division with one horse and one mp company

[glacial steeple]

11 of those divisions for belgium, for example

your garrison law is also still on the worst option

[subtle thorn]

do you have good mountanier div template for ussr?

[lucid torrent]

Forget about navy, you have other things to learn first.

[twin kayak]

they look all pretty bad except civilian oversight

[lucid torrent]

no, you change the template first.

[twin kayak]

so cavalry divisions ?

you said

with mp

[lucid torrent]

yes, change it.

Garrion law only take effect if you have enough equipment.

[twin kayak]

how many cavalrty thing when I design the div ?

[lucid torrent]

3-4

that is enough.

[subtle thorn]

30wdth mountanier good?

[twin kayak]

and something completely different: should I do the molotov ribbentrop pact and cease eastern poland to the soviets ?

[subtle thorn]

just declare on them now

[subtle thorn]

light flame tank company okay too?

[glacial steeple]

they reduce resistance target, civ oversight is indeed the best for compliance otherwise

[glacial steeple]

light flames are just worse

only use them on paratroopers

[twin kayak]

what's the difference between these 2 ? does it do the same ?

[twin kayak]

when should I switch to it ?

[fathom thistle]

It's the same yes

[glacial steeple]

it does the same

one uses more columns

[glacial steeple]

sometimes

[austere roost]

Actually liberated worker is the best because with 100 compliance you get more factories and resources than if you have a core on it but that's communist only

[glacial steeple]

if you have full compliance you want brutal oppression for +25% factories

[subtle thorn]

is this good for inf

[glacial steeple]

but if you want more factories 3 years+ in the future you go civ

also you should make medium tank garrisons ideally

50 medium tanks with mp support and nothing else

[glacial steeple]

i wouldnt use it

[lucid torrent]

no, too expensive for nothing.

[subtle thorn]

im able to make milion of thoese

[twin kayak]

I was just told do put cavalry

[subtle thorn]

what should i do then

[austere roost]

Light tank garrisons are for when you have too much ic to spend

[lucid torrent]

special force, tanks.

[twin kayak]

only this ?

[austere roost]

Remove the line artillery

[glacial steeple]

cav is also good, but not as IC efficient or damage efficient, it doesnt make you have to redirect production, though

[lucid torrent]

yes.

[glacial steeple]

one minute.

[subtle thorn]

its for 25widht

[austere roost]

Then do one more inf + line aa

Also 24/26 width is also fine

[dusty sandal]

use 16, 18w or 32, 35,36,38

no inbetween

[twin kayak]

wait, does that mean that my factories etc ... wont get sabotaged too often ?

[austere roost]

Just don't use line art

[twin kayak]

with these garnisons etc ...

[subtle thorn]

35 width with line artilery or no?

[dusty sandal]

if you add MP support, you want to get the most cav batallion in there
if no MP company, 1 or 25 cav batallions will do the exact same

[dusty sandal]

no line arty

[subtle thorn]

so just inf

[dusty sandal]

yup

[twin kayak]

and then, just put them in like this ?

[subtle thorn]

like this

[dusty sandal]

mil governor is abysmal dogshit

[subtle thorn]

i will put flame tank company

later on

and logistics

[dusty sandal]

you building air as well ?

[subtle thorn]

yes

but no armor

[dusty sandal]

that's fine

[lucid torrent]

yes, if you have enough eqipment.

[twin kayak]

what is better ?

[glacial steeple]

ideally for garrisons you would like to use something akin to this.

[dusty sandal]

considering the situation there, local police force with spy on suppress resistance mission
or
harsh quotas/forced labour

and equip your garrisons

[dusty sandal]

medium tank ? for the hardness ?

[twin kayak]

wouldn't the 2nd option make things even worse ?

[dusty sandal]

light tank is 0.8 ic cheaper

[dusty sandal]

no?

high suppression value

read what it does

[lucid torrent]

you let resistance go to high, better switch to harsher laws

[glacial steeple]

yes

less losses and better per IC

foxsy did the math on it and i trust foxsy math

[twin kayak]

so this ?

[glacial steeple]

also the only legitimate good use for the equipment type button

[twin kayak]

what areas should I prioritize ?

[glacial steeple]

which is why i mouse hovered over it twice

[dusty sandal]

oh god

this is important info

pause the game, delete as many divisions you need so that all garisons are full of equipment

you delete them now

no questions asked

you are literally dying to resistance

[lucid torrent]

start a new run, it just better than fixing this.

[dusty sandal]

everything on martial law or local police force

[glacial steeple]

lowkey no

just start equipping with tanks because anything given to the garrisons will die to resistance

[twin kayak]

ohh man, I was so proud of myself for this one ☹️

[glacial steeple]

you can fix it

[twin kayak]

ok then

[lucid torrent]

i don't think he will even got enough by this time.

[glacial steeple]

theyre very cheap.

[dusty sandal]

by the time enough mediums are built, they will have 90% everywhere and rising

[glacial steeple]

25 factories would be more than plentiful to fix it in a year

[glacial steeple]

only poland will go up that much possibly

its fine

some are already going down

martial law though

[dusty sandal]

I need to see the losses in garrisons

[lucid torrent]

yes, but he is also missing other equipment

[glacial steeple]

thats all he needs with what i just pinned

[twin kayak]

this ?

[glacial steeple]

change it to medium tanks

[dusty sandal]

and the manpower losses
this is your deficit

[glacial steeple]

and mass produce the cheapest medium you can

[twin kayak]

where do I get that from ?

[dusty sandal]

open the garrison screen and click on the 💀 icon

[glacial steeple]

are you covertly skull reacting him smh

[twin kayak]

...

[dusty sandal]

bruh

[glacial steeple]

oh thats not that bad

[twin kayak]

hahahah

[dusty sandal]

that's only going to grow

[glacial steeple]

i saw 1mil lost as finland in 12 months

this is less bad like in scale

[dusty sandal]

you say it'll take them a year to get the mediums up and running
in a year all industry will be dead and they'll reach 5 millions lmao

[glacial steeple]

just go up conscription law

its fine

[twin kayak]

hmmm, ...

[glacial steeple]

just stay on that

its chill

20% is a lot

[twin kayak]

so, medium tanks or cavalry ?

which is better or faster ?

[glacial steeple]

well, see it as this

you dont have the equipment either way

but if you do cav you will take more losses

[lucid torrent]

I told ya

Just start a new run

[glacial steeple]

they can recover its fiine

[lucid torrent]

It is better for mental health

[glacial steeple]

dont be so doomer

[lucid torrent]

Lol, i think he don't even know about Mefo bill is tickling under his belt.

[twin kayak]

well, it's gone since I started playing hoi4

[twin kayak]

I do know that

[lucid torrent]

how much it is now?

[glacial steeple]

its just minor debuffs

he'll win

[lucid torrent]

@glacial steeple you lead him to victory

[glacial steeple]

i have to read about the dangers of alcohol though

[twin kayak]

new run it is

when should I start doing the garnison stuff ?

as soon as I get a country ?

[glacial steeple]

before 3 million people per year die ideally

[lucid torrent]

We better start as other country.

[twin kayak]

so 2,9m. Got it 👍

[twin kayak]

what do you mean

[lucid torrent]

Germany isn't idea as a newbie nation.

[warm marlin]

how do i disable the mefo bills

[lucid torrent]

get enough resource and complete the focus tree.

[glacial steeple]

hes fine on ger

hes locked in

[twin kayak]

isn't italy the best to start with ?

but I don't like italy

[glacial steeple]

just most people think germany is auto win nation and dont lock in/get overwhelmed

[twin kayak]

historically

[lucid torrent]

or do recovering economy focus from start

[glacial steeple]

italy sucks

finland is good for learning

[twin kayak]

I more germany campaign

[lucid torrent]

LOL, prx throw italy as a guidance, see how bad it is?

[twin kayak]

how should my army look like ? I was told to have infantry to defend the frontline and attack divisions to attack. What do they look like exactly ?

is it just tank/motorized/special forces ?

[lucid torrent]

pretty much.

[twin kayak]

how many do I need ?

24 ?

and where do I put them on the frontline ?

[lucid torrent]

as much as you can handle.

[twin kayak]

I'm a very bad accountant, I just see high numbers and press save ...

[lucid torrent]

Oh, how long did it take you to defeat Poland and France?

[twin kayak]

very fast

[devout lintel]

hello

https://tenor.com/view/doaenel-kiss-doaenekiss-dantes-illness-gif-26751715

[twin kayak]

poland is defeated by mid 1938 and france end 38/start 39

usually

[lucid torrent]

ohh, agressive war.

[languid tartan]

Anyone Wanan play

[lucid torrent]

So yeah, build more plane.

[twin kayak]

I force deploy the divs to get the anschluss and the rest of the focuses done as fast as possible

[twin kayak]

I was told westerday to not build the bas german planes and rush the 1940s versions

[glacial steeple]

because the game is silly

if you see equipment, infantry changes are massive but irrelevant if units are just there to sit somewhere, planes make each other very outdated and functionally useless at trading comparatively

but tanks do not have this, the only chassis changes are speed/reliability, and early on your production can be the things that dont get good upgrades/are not needed

for an infantry build you just make a lot of newer inf stuff over the game, for tanks you can make your desired design but with heavy machine gun instead of the gun you want later, and then click on the left of your production line (green storage unit button) to convert these "chassis" tanks to your desired tank

for planes converting is just useless, because its the frame that matters for speed, agility, module (defense and attack)

theres also like, support equipment thats always the same

[still bay]

Still no decent help to be seen here

I sitll cant figure out the game mechanics

[twin kayak]

I've been lost for a week now, so welcome I guess xD

[lucid torrent]

yeah, the learning curve is steep.

[dusty sandal]

#ask-for-help-here message

if you have specific questions we'll be more likely to answer

[lucid torrent]

ahh, remind me my time, it took me about 1 month.

[twin kayak]

what is better ? I always go for dispersed, but idk why

[glacial steeple]

more production forever, or more production for first 6-12 months of a military factory

dispersed is safer for guns when swapping i guess

or starting any production

[austere roost]

Concentrated is better because as Casey said, more production in the long run

[twin kayak]

so, I once again made the wrong choice I guess xD

[still bay]

The tutorials are either too simple or too complicated

[twin kayak]

or don't cover what you want to know in detail

[still bay]

I dont know anything i know how to make an offensive line and how to research tech but idk how to build supply hubs how do i menage my economy and stability

[twin kayak]

I learned that on the go

by experimenting around

[still bay]

And how to make navy and planes i know others by experimenting

[glacial steeple]

its not terrible

but its less production

its alright

in your last run it wouldve helped solve the resistance issue pretty fast

[still bay]

Thats what i need to know

[glacial steeple]

relative to conc, anyway

[twin kayak]

planes is pretty easy once you get it, but my god is navy difficult to understand

[lucid torrent]

just forget about navy.

[left glacier]

[lucid torrent]

You can ignore it and win 99% your run

[still bay]

Alr i just need the supply hubs crap how to do ecomy and how to keep my divisions not getting encircled i got pushed out of somalia from ethopia as italy on civilian so idk any strategies to win how to micromenage troops and yeah thats basicly it

Also idk how to do diplomacy

[lucid torrent]

1: get ALL army to ethiopia
2: Place as many CAS as you can put to this theater
3: Click right mouse button, green bubble with number >70, then continue, if not stop.
repeat step 3 until you cap ethiopia.

[still bay]

Uhhh how to overall see which focus tree your going down

[still bay]

I DONT KNOW HOW TO USE NAVY I

[twin kayak]

the best is to start with the army (and maybe planes since they are pretty closely related)

[still bay]

ALRIGHT HOW DO I DO ARMY

[keen hemlock]

You don’t need your navy to put your army in Ethiopia

[twin kayak]

did you do the tutorial ? it explains the basics pretty well imo. For the supplies, it's normal if you're in ethiopia that you don't have supplies. It's a shithole (ingame)

[keen hemlock]

Create a frontline with units and they will automatically go there

[twin kayak]

but, build supply hubs close to the front and a railway connecting other supply hubs with it

[lucid torrent]

DELETE YOUR NAVY, BUILD NAVAL BOMBER.

[still bay]

I The tutorial does not do the thing it just says what to do rather than checking

If i actualy know the crap

[wet crater]

Doesnt that stop you from staging naval invasions?

[keen hemlock]

https://youtu.be/WCqXIRRVZIY?si=7im_sgC4LBBFFf9f

Watch this

[wet crater]

Which is kind of 1/2 the point of navy

[still bay]

OH MY THIS CRAP

[wet crater]

Other half is (in theory) to secure shipping lines

[still bay]

I SWEAR THIS IS TERRIBLE

[twin kayak]

it's only usefull for the reallw basic mechanics imo.

[still bay]

THE OFFICIAL ONE IS TOO COMPLICATED NOBODY SAYS ON HOW TO ACTUALY PLAY THE FRICKIN GAME NO TUTORIAL SAYS HOW TO PLAY THEY ALL JUST YAP ABOUT A SINGULAR FEATURE FOR 20 MINUTES

[lucid torrent]

because there is no set in the stone how to do it correctly.

You have wild range choice on how to wage war

[still bay]

I KNOW BUT THEY CAN AT LEAST GIVE AN EXAMPLE OR TALK ABOUT TACTICS

[keen hemlock]

Tatics are just clicking your enemy until you encircle them or they die

That’s literally what you do