ask-for-help-here

[hoary glen]

No, you want to build light attack Cruisers and Torpedo Destroyers.

[indigo sapphire]

alr

[hoary glen]

Check out the pinned tank from 4 months ago.

[dusty sandal]

use whatever you start with + either torp DDs or light cruisers with light atk spam and 7piercing (best in singleplayer)

[hoary glen]

I see that you're playing a mod. If it changes how Naval works you're on your own.

[trail reef]

what template is best for garrison

[oak jasper]

Option A: a giant brick of cavalry with an MP company.
Option B: a giant brick of armored cars with an MP company. Requires La Resistance, costs much more IC for a modest reduction in manpower.
Option C: a giant brick of light tanks with an MP company. Similar to option B.

[trail reef]

thanks

[lyric geyser]

I would recommend just a 2 width inf

[glad lichen]

"Optimize Reich Service" unlock?
This focus unlocks a specific category in your Decisions tab called "Reich Labor Service Initiative Decisions" (based on the historical Reichsarbeitsdienst or RAD).
Main Benefits:
Construction Boosts: It allows you to activate decisions that provide significant bonuses to Construction Speed for Military Factories, Civilian Factories, and Infrastructure in specific regions of Germany.
Extra Building Slots: Some decisions will grant additional Building Slots in states that are already full, allowing you to cram even more industry into Germany.
Efficiency & Stability: It represents the optimization of national labor, often providing small boosts to Stability or Production Efficiency.
Why it matters for your current run: Since your 48 civilian factories are stuck producing "Consumer Goods," these decisions are a lifesaver. They make the few factories you can still use much more productive, allowing you to build your war machine faster despite the economic squeeze.

[fathom thistle]

would b cost less mp or C

[dusty sandal]

Option Abis (if lack of XP) : a single cav batallion (doesn't change anything until you try to use the MP company)
@trail reef

[oak jasper]

I don't understand what you mean by "cost less MP".

If you have the tank designer, you can technically make a barebones light tank slightly cheaper than armored cars, though that may require shenanigans with equipment tag selection to keep your garrison tanks out of frontline divisions and vice-versa.

[dusty sandal]

cost less manpower

[fathom thistle]

manpower

[oak jasper]

(I'd also typically recommend staying on cavalry until you have more mils than you know what to do with)

[dusty sandal]

the higher the suppression of a div, the less manpower and equipment it requires per region garrisonned
it doesn't make resistance decay faster or prevent higher resistance

[final estuary]

my benelux war is failing why is that so

[dusty sandal]

hard to say without a screenshot

[final estuary]

im gonna provide it hol up

im playing historical btw

[dusty sandal]

my guess is no air, bad templates, no supply and enemy wall of divs on which you're endlessly attacking without success
(as is often the case)

[final estuary]

is 2 arty infantry a good template

im quite new

[dusty sandal]

no

[final estuary]

oh

then what is

[dusty sandal]

best inf is 9inf, support arty, support AA
it has limited offensive capabilities but it's there to hold the line 90% of the time
you use tanks, infantry bricks (36width, pure infantry with support companies) or special forces to attack

[final estuary]

netherlands

[final estuary]

ah

[dusty sandal]

don''t crop out anything please

especially not the UI

[dusty sandal]

show everything

the top UI is extremely important

[final estuary]

the screenshot sucks sia

[dusty sandal]

I'm doing something on the side, I may take a while to reply

[final estuary]

atp should i boot up a 1939 save

[midnight bolt]

im playing equestria at war rn i have 95 divisions and the only thing killing me rn every time i reload is staliongrad, they are to most overpowered ai i have ever seen, any help possible?

[wild rune]

kill them faster

[final estuary]

yo how does one get this kind of map

[midnight bolt]

what do you mean?

[wild rune]

its equestria at war, the mod.

[final estuary]

ah

[midnight bolt]

so... any help?

[wild rune]

what do your divs look like

you ask for help without giving any insight to the internal army

[wild rune]

second division is crazy icl

[midnight bolt]

the only real divisions i use but i also have 24 divs of my puppet that are just placeholders

[final estuary]

oh yeah uhh what does the brick template look like

[midnight bolt]

i restarted the game like 3 times and i couldnt make it

just because of staliongrad

[wild rune]

just use 18w pure magical inf for your inf

[uncut narwhal]

dont use line arty

just use your tanks to push

[midnight bolt]

can anybody send a template?

or smth

[wild rune]

tanks aren't even needed with how busted magic inf is

[midnight bolt]

so pure inf can also work?

[wild rune]

it'll take me like an hour

[wild rune]

it doesn't just work magical inf are broken

[midnight bolt]

ok, so you mean the magical guns and what else is there magical wise

[wild rune]

uhh thats pretty much it icl

[midnight bolt]

but the infiltrator units are also good to be in the remplate in think

[wild rune]

maybe make light tanks and switch your recon out for armored recon

[midnight bolt]

ok

ill restart the entire run then and try again

[midnight bolt]

but the one guy said no artillery, so just magical with the support units right, and the tank template above just with light tanks, just to conclude

[wild rune]

support artillery is decent but definitely no line arty yeah

[midnight bolt]

ok got it, thanks for the help then ill try in the next run, but now ill a brake from all that

[cold garnet]

line arty is okay before 1012

also magic inf is only peak for ponies and those with the same race techs

griffons bears etc don't use magic inf very well since they don't get enough magical battalion bonuses

[visual yacht]

is there a way to limit trade to only my faction members?

kind of annoying how theres no apparent control with trade influence, even though its my resources im trading :/

[opaque zealot]

if you are a major how much planes you should have??

because i only have like 200 or 300 fighters when i declare on the soviets

[visual yacht]

you need thousands

[opaque zealot]

what is your plane designs

??

[visual yacht]

max light mg's and engine for europe

add drop tanks if youre fighting in asia or areas with big air regions

[opaque zealot]

light planes

medium or heavys

bro it's because i always get the heavy planes??

[visual yacht]

yes dont use heavy

i use lights but medium is fine too

keeping small frames as the 'fighters' and mediums as the 'cas' means you dont need to mess around with outdating equipment for conversions

[opaque zealot]

these are the type i use but the 3x engines

well somewhat the type i use

well nah i do use them

@visual yacht

[visual yacht]

these are you air missions you will use 99% of the time are you using them?, 1st and 3rd will help against bombers

[cold prism]

GUYS

[austere roost]

Usa can use heavy fighters since they get research buffs

[visual yacht]

then select your planes, and right click an air region

[cold prism]

how do i puppet the world as germany

?

[austere roost]

But you shouldn't use double engines

[austere roost]

Occupy the world, release as vassals

[cold prism]

but i kno

wait

[opaque zealot]

'

[opaque zealot]

'

[cold prism]

but you can puppet everyone without war, right?

[opaque zealot]

it's not enough because i only get like 300 of those per like 2 years

[visual yacht]

i doubt theyre rushing heavy fighter tech and producing asap though

[austere roost]

No you can't, why would they voluntarily be your puppet?

[steep pilot]

How do I like deploy air-wings?

[visual yacht]

#ask-for-help-here message

[opaque zealot]

what??

[cold prism]

but germany?

[cold prism]

geramny can puppet alot of countries with focus

[opaque zealot]

what do you mean??

[opaque zealot]

im asking you for help then what type of module you use

[proven rain]

best infantry temp for italy

[feral salmon]

you used to be able to puppet hungary and romania but paradox removed thaat

[hoary glen]

Click on airport, then hit the plus sign

[hoary glen]

"^" + "annex all"

[proven rain]

best fantry temp for itally

[cold prism]

bruh

[cold prism]

what?

[feral salmon]

and puppetting as germany is quite useless

just annex

and make collab govs after that

[neat widget]

Mountaineers probably

[hoary glen]

Open console, then type annex all

[proven rain]

i cant use them

[opaque zealot]

@glacial steeple

[neat widget]

Then research them

[feral salmon]

any of the meta infantry templates would work it doesn't really change

[neat widget]

And do that trick

[proven rain]

?

[proven rain]

where i see the temps

[neat widget]

You make a bunch of 2-widths, convert them to 40/50w, and them convert some of those to mountaineers

Delete the rest though

[feral salmon]

16w for holding and like 36w mountaineers for pushing

[glacial steeple]

hi

[opaque zealot]

what are your plane modules because when mi do my heavy fighters with germany or other majors by 1941 or 1942 i only have like 300 fighters

[opaque zealot]

i use this one but 3x enginee

[leaden jay]

any ideas why this focus isnt firing?

[opaque zealot]

@glacial steeple

[austere roost]

Just Slovakia, and why waste a 70 day focus on it when you can just spend like 8pp and 40 days to declare on someone

[steep pilot]

I can't click it for some reason

How do I get airplanes in reserve?

[vital geode]

Did you do the focuses the west and the east?

Just recently played that mod and it instantly activated for me

[hot beacon]

can someone teach me?

[keen hemlock]

What exactly do you need help with

[hot beacon]

i want to learn the game

[keen hemlock]

https://youtu.be/WCqXIRRVZIY?si=nWXOpYKSFQktwpMe

[twin kayak]

why doesn't my naval invasion start ?

[hot beacon]

watched it like 3 times didnt really help

[karmic lintel]

looking to play or help new players

[dusty sandal]

you're not at war

[twin kayak]

oh

[jade tulip]

is there a way to make iceland not declare neutrality when I declare war on denmark?

[twin kayak]

bruh

[twin kayak]

thank you 😅

[tame forge]

Which doctrine branches do I choose for paratroopers germany to invade UK?

[tired moon]

dang it

I suck

[steel bronze]

not really..

youre playing as the uk..

[pliant condor]

put more factory

and best not to use heavy fighter

[indigo sapphire]

how many ships do i need to defeat us navy and royal navy As Germany

[proven rain]

why i cant push

[keen hemlock]

i can help you in vc in like 5 minutes

[oak jasper]

Extra engines add a lot of cost, and typically aren't worth it. The design lacks self-sealing fuel tanks, I don't recognize that last utility module, and I'm not so sure about turrets on a heavy fighter.

[keen hemlock]

your units have low strength and low org

[oak jasper]

(You probably also don't need extra fuel tanks if going for a heavy fighter)

[keen hemlock]

and low supply

[proven rain]

?

[indigo sapphire]

can someone answer

[oak jasper]

The standard 1940 fighter design: light chassis, single engine III, 3x quad HMG armament, self-sealing fuel tanks, armor plate, extra fuel tanks. If you have a good, well-developed range MIO, you may be able to replace the extra fuel tanks with another plate.

For a heavy fighter, it'd be similar: lots of HMGs, twin engine III, self-sealing, lots of armor plates, add in some fuel if needed to keep the range above 1000 km or so.

[cursive jewel]

wich of these tanks is the best?

[keen hemlock]

the bars under your unit icons are low

that means they arent organized (green bar), and are missing equipment or manpower (orange bar)

[oak jasper]

It's hard to answer that in any absolute terms, since that really depends on a host of other factors, e.g. how much you're able to wear them down with naval bombers, how good your ship designs are, etc.

[indigo sapphire]

alr

[proven rain]

how i can repair it

[keen hemlock]

stop attacking and improve supply

[oak jasper]

Single-player or multiplayer? I can't give much multiplayer advice, though they are awful designs for single-player.

[proven rain]

its not the best?

[keen hemlock]

build a higher level railway

[proven rain]

OH

[keen hemlock]

to the nearest supply hub to your troops

[proven rain]

and its gonna be repaired

?

like i can capture yug

[keen hemlock]

it will help

i can say for certian you will win

also put up all your planes

[proven rain]

can u come in vc and say like this strenght org mechanic

[cursive jewel]

multiplayer

with out considaring TDs

i tried them in single player they destroyed everything

[dusty sandal]

crappy units, no supply and probably no air support

[devout lintel]

i ruined my game

how to save

[dusty sandal]

you're gotta have to be more specific

[devout lintel]

ok 2 sec

[leaden jay]

why is this happening?

[devout lintel]

anti democratif

[devout lintel]

ok so my 3 allies have been nearely wiped out

that includes germany

vichy france

and england

but england its still on the island

and africa bc i had to save them

and england its allies with entire soouth amercuca

peru agrenita chile america do sul

[twin kayak]

Each time I attack england, I lose because my navy it too shitty, my airforce isn't strong enough and my paratroopers get destroyed. what do yall do to beat england as germany ?

[devout lintel]

u got dlc

and yes ur navy its to shit

only way u can do alot of england without to much effoert its couple of paratroopers from france

into england

around a port

force attack

wipe it out

transport ur entire army

puppet everything and spam units to sent to candia and take out us

[keen hemlock]

i wait untill they move their navy out of the channel, put my subs up to raid the seazone next to spain, put main fleet up in challen, all air on the seazone then the land once i get it off

[devout lintel]

ur overrating the boatsm

u ger 16 subs

only basic

and rest its outdated destorys and ships

[vivid lotus]

are these good stats for an mp tank division?

i should probably get logistics

[lethal maple]

ye

[glacial steeple]

what is this

[vivid lotus]

i'm trying 😭

it's mid 1940

[glacial steeple]

get guns on your tanks?

[vivid lotus]

I have mediums with medium cannons

[glacial steeple]

yeah medium cannons suck

go for td or spg also

get high velo or howitzers

[vivid lotus]

just pure td/spg?

[vivid lotus]

I should also mention I've never played mp before so i'm new to this

[dusty sandal]

no

medium TD is fine too now, especially on soviet

[vivid lotus]

nice nice, thank you

[torn fjord]

how to pacify ethopia as italy without making a puppet

[dusty sandal]

put the occupation law on civilian oversight and wait

[reef folio]

How am i ever supposed to break this

[lethal maple]

alt + f4

[reef folio]

I swear i never had problems with sealion

[leaden jay]

my ships are stuck and it says no accsesable region

[lethal maple]

i hate sea lion

[feral salmon]

same

you don't even have to build a navy, the uk by 1941 just randomly move their navy from the english channel

sometimes even earlier

[reef folio]

Yeah i mean i landed but they have too much

Cant break It and i have tanks and cas

[feral salmon]

when did you invade them

[reef folio]

About june 1941

[lethal maple]

i launched sea lion like 5 times only

[feral salmon]

show your tanks templates and design

[reef folio]

Rn Its August and i had to withdraw

[feral salmon]

you should be able to breakthru with your tanks very easily

[reef folio]

Sorry for nato Symbols But

On the right is medium tank SP artillery

And the rest is mediums

[feral salmon]

turn nato icons off

[reef folio]

Yeah wait

[feral salmon]

how do you even play with this

[reef folio]

I feel more roleplay

Ig

@feral salmon

[hot beacon]

can you stil help?

[keen hemlock]

ye gimme a sec

[twin kayak]

What do you do once in you german campaign (equipment) ? I am certain that I focus on the wrong things

[glacial steeple]

?

[twin kayak]

What equipment do you produce

What planes, ships, etc …

[flat hound]

Logos disappeared how to fix it v

[glacial steeple]

the thing is

germany is really OP

you can only have your starting mils and do well

or only produce bad stuff and be fine

[feral salmon]

those aren't optimal but they should be well enough to blitz uk ru sure you had supply

[glacial steeple]

what you need to do, really, is get bohme or student to high level attack

[reef folio]

yea think so

[glacial steeple]

(student is a lot worse but camo trait)

and use your overwhelming like, attack buffs

because germany gets a lot

and also just dont make civs

[reef folio]

Maybe i had bad air but i had like 80 Factories on fighters

[glacial steeple]

research stuff you use like guns ahead of time

so it finishes like, way earlier

[twin kayak]

I feel like I don’t have enough planes nor ships. Do I just mass produce them from the start and put infantry equipment (support equipment, guns, trucks, …) aside ?

[reef folio]

What should i do to have an optimal Tank?

[glacial steeple]

youre definitely doing a lot wrong if youre losing as germany

but i cant pinpoint what it is from what youre saying

[twin kayak]

Can I talk to you later in dm ?

[glacial steeple]

uhm id prefer you ask here, but my dms are open

[feral salmon]

get the assault engineer company, flame tanks, field hospital, armored recon company, change the suspension to christie, get the engine to like 11 and maybe 3 armor, replace extra ammunation storage with additional machineguns

[warped heron]

ok soooooooooooooooo ive downloaded this game a few days ago, watched some tutorials, but generally avoid getting into (major) wars because i cant FOR THE LIFE OF ME understand how the military works because even WITH my troops completely supplied AND with pretty good templates i STILL cant win any wars with any of the major nations, can anybody help me? maybe somebody could watch my gameplay and tell what im doing wrong?

[dense stone]

Do you have airforce? It's a major part in wars

[warped heron]

yep, i always make sure to have air superiority and cas

[dense stone]

What about terrain and forts, maybe they are the issue?

[feral salmon]

the big 4

[warped heron]

i never really thought about those so idrk

[feral salmon]

what country do you play as

[dense stone]

for example if you're familiar with what is maginot line is, you can't break through it because of mountains and forts debuffs

[warped heron]

a few, i played germany, hungary, italy, canada and right now am playing benelux

[warped heron]

i see

[feral salmon]

just focus on playing germany

do you have any dlc

[warped heron]

resistance and the turkey one

did democratic germany before

[feral salmon]

what country has gotten you the furthest

[warped heron]

lowkey germany, got stuck in a war against the soviets tho (couldnt breakthrough nor be pushed back)

[austere roost]

Technically you can go through the Maginot now cuz of all the power creep but newbies need to learn to do everything else right first

[dense stone]

You sure your supply was good there? It's the main issue in the ussr, even in close(to you) areas in ussr, if not played well, you can have no supply

[feral salmon]

did you defeat the allies before

going after USSR

[warped heron]

i dont think i remember seeing any issues there

[warped heron]

nope

i played democratic germany there tho

[feral salmon]

democratic germany with the cheesy historical focus tree?

[warped heron]

i did opposition

[feral salmon]

yeahhh thats not so good

[warped heron]

i also did normal germany and annexxed all of yugoslavia and danzig

but got destroyed because italy did some evil shenanigans

[feral salmon]

just try playing historical, defeating the allies and then going after soviet union

[warped heron]

mkay

any tips for templates

or for combat

[austere roost]

Don't add italy

Conquer it instead

[warped heron]

ok

[austere roost]

Tbh templates are like 5% of why you're failing

80% is about production and industry

Starting German templates should be enough unless you start building armor divisions

[feral salmon]

uhh for tanks idrk because you don't have NSB, but for infantry just make 36w pure infantry and with some support like logistics company, engineer companies and flame tanks if you can do that (im not sure) and for holding lines just make like 16w infantry

[warped heron]

whats nwb (im guessing the 36w means 36 width)

[feral salmon]

also for sea lion you want to do a naval invasion in dover and just wait for the uk to move their fleet elsewhere, and right when they do just send all of your navy into the english channel using patrol

[feral salmon]

NSB?

[oak jasper]

NSB would be No Step Back, a DLC>

[warped heron]

ohh

right

[feral salmon]

it's a major DLC for making tanks and stuuff

its probably one of the most useful DLCs

[warped heron]

is it expensive

[feral salmon]

it's 12 usd rn

-40% until 26th of march

it also gives the soviet union a focus tree

[dense stone]

also gives focus trees for ussr, poland, and baltic countries

[feral salmon]

yeah

poland is peak

[warped heron]

ooh

yeah i might get it

probably

sooo what template should i do

[dense stone]

Support companies for sure, you need to fill those slots on left

and are you doing for general use, or something particular?(defence/offence/port garrisons)

[feral salmon]

yeah get the support companies lmao

[warped heron]

general

technically defense tho

[feral salmon]

get engineer company + support arty

those are the basics

[warped heron]

right

[dense stone]

field hospital if you are low on manpower in general

and matter of fact you will need it since you have 0 manpower

[warped heron]

ok fosho

[feral salmon]

can we just give germany a focus that gives it war goals on all south american countries

im so tired of this

[oak jasper]

For basic infantry divisions, the typical advice is 8-9 infantry battalions, support arty and support AA.

[dense stone]

historical path or some other?

[feral salmon]

yeah in the historical path

its so painful jusstifying on all of thel

when going for a wc

[warped heron]

ok

[oak jasper]

Engineering companies are a maybe; they're quite expensive for what they provide to a small division.
Field hospitals are a "no" unless you have a wild excess of industry, since defensive units rarely take many casualties until they're surrounded and destroyed.

[warped heron]

thanbnks

[indigo kraken]

why

it wouldnt make sense

unless hitler wanted to take all south america

which i dont think he wanted

[feral salmon]

because hitler befriending china would make sense?

or an alliance with the USSR?

i don't mean it as like a purely historical focus i just mean for it to be in the historical fascist path

[dense stone]

I mean this could be considered as alternate history

[warped heron]

so sum like this, maybe with one singular light tank maybe maybe

[feral salmon]

and obviously i'm kidding having wargoals on every south american nations would make it way too easy

[feral salmon]

engineer company

[warped heron]

ok

[oak jasper]

If you're going for Space Marines (TM), I'd do medium tanks, but yes.

[warped heron]

ok awesome

[feral salmon]

aren't you also playing the european union as belgium

which can puppet the entirety of europe with clicks

[uneven ridge]

I have a question about the ship builder: Could the H-39 proposal or Design A-150 be recreated?

[oak jasper]

I'm not so sure on that. An engineering company is 20% of the cost of an infantry division, and in most cases I'd rather have six divsions without engineers than five divisions with.

[warped heron]

its the netherlands but yes

[feral salmon]

the defense bonuses for terrains are really good tho, and the overall stats too

[oak jasper]

The ship builder is so wildly abstracted that the answer becomes a bit meaningless.

[oak jasper]

More divisions on the frontline means more org to chew through and more guns shooting back to de-org the attacker.

[feral salmon]

himmler as a field marshal this makes sense

[warped heron]

ok so something like this right

medium tanks will come in the future

[feral salmon]

yes

[warped heron]

awesome

[subtle thorn]

very bad field marshal apperently in real life

[feral salmon]

do i have enough trucks

[subtle thorn]

damn

how many factories

on trucks?

[heady skiff]

So as China you want to just sit behind the yellow river right. But like how long? Do I just keep building divs until Im strong enough to push back or what. What is the end goal when sitting behind the yellow river?

[feral salmon]

i had 150

for the memes

[dense stone]

did you steal every civilians car?

[feral salmon]

uhhhh maybe

[proven rain]

how to get this

[warped heron]

sooo this kinda isnt working

[lucid torrent]

Is there any AI mod that actually work with overhaul mods?

[dusty sandal]

get what ? SPG ? amtrack ?

[proven rain]

yea

[dusty sandal]

you can't answer yeah to a two-part question

[proven rain]

template

there is thing

in the not support

how to get this

[dusty sandal]

left, right or both ?

left is SPG. You get it by changing the designation on a tank
right is amtrack, you get it by researching it under mech

[proven rain]

desgination?

[wintry matrix]

Artillery.

Self Propelled Gun.

The one with the 💥 symbol.

[proven rain]

o

and the armctech

[dusty sandal]

read my message again

[dim mantle]

hello guys, do you have any tips to getting military access to another country?

[uncut narwhal]

improving relations

[dim mantle]

basically im trying to do Stresa Front as Italy and guarantee Austria's independence to go to war with Germany

Italy joins the Allies but Austria doesn't

so I don't have military access to Austria, so I have to wait until Germany attacks Austria and then my troops have to rush to the frontline

if I had military access earlier it would be better

[oak jasper]

Improve relations. If that fails, conquest is always a viable option for obtaining military access.

[dim mantle]

lol but that kinda defeats the purpose of the Stresa Front

[feral salmon]

yeah because you won't be able to breakthrough the germans as the netherlands like this

you need to hold a defensive line first

[warped heron]

and how do i make a defensive line

[feral salmon]

it's just a front line but you don't make any offensive arrows

again especially since you're a beginner trying to fight the germans as the netherlands isn't going to be easy at all

[warped heron]

right ok thanks

then what IS easy

[hexed verge]

if the offensive arrows are your power wehat are you without them

[hexed verge]

dude i have a better template for you

[storm solstice]

Can u beat germany in 1938 as monarchist france easily if you deny their sudetenland?

and attack the uk after

because im having zero luck with uk first

[feral salmon]

germany historical

[feral salmon]

attack the uk before

andn then germany is a piece of cake, ive done that route like 15 times

[storm solstice]

Japan or germany

[feral salmon]

you can annex germany by late 1938

[storm solstice]

my units GENUINELY cannot do anything once they land. one singular light tank div ssends them to the sea

[hexed verge]

if im not mistaken you get a wargoal on the uk very early too

[storm solstice]

and thats 24 9infs

[feral salmon]

how many divisions did you have there

you need like 72

[hexed verge]

just use this template bro

[storm solstice]

72 divisions in the uk in 1938?

[storm solstice]

son 😭

[feral salmon]

what mod is that lmao

[feral salmon]

yes

[storm solstice]

LIke the supply of 24 wasnt bad enough

[feral salmon]

use 9/1 divisions (even if line arty sucks)

[hexed verge]

idk bro i found it somewhere 😭

[storm solstice]

i am not joking btw i am genuinely getting fried on repeat

[hexed verge]

but if 9/1 divisions are your power what are you without them

[feral salmon]

a line arty hater

[hexed verge]

jokes aside use spg's tho

france starts out with medium howitzer tech unlocked

they are also cheaper than tanks

[feral salmon]

you don't need them

[hexed verge]

they will shred whatever the ai throws at you

[feral salmon]

i deadass just blitzed netherlands, belgium, luxembourg, uk and germany in late 1938

with like 1m losses total

[hexed verge]

as france?

[feral salmon]

yeah

napoleonci france

[hexed verge]

the early war goal on the uk is just wayyyyy too good man

[storm solstice]

what divisions did u use? I had 8 factories that i used almost entirely on air

[feral salmon]

you get literally every resource in mid 1938 lmao

[storm solstice]

and had 28 by the time of uk war

[hexed verge]

yes exactly 😭

[feral salmon]

literally just 9/1s

[hexed verge]

and the best navy in the game

[storm solstice]

did u have green air

because my best was 1.5k aircrafts by 38

[feral salmon]

i didnt even use air

[storm solstice]

and were u able to cap the RN?

[feral salmon]

i used air for germany only

[storm solstice]

royal nav

[feral salmon]

dude you can just bring all ur ships into the english channel and make sure your naval invasions are ready before you declare

and you get 1 micro second of naval superiority inwhich your divisions will land

[hexed verge]

DUDE THAT IS THE EXACT THING I DO LMAO

[feral salmon]

its the best way

[hexed verge]

SOMETIMES tho the one second of naval supremacy somehow turns to zero

and the uk cripples your fleet

[feral salmon]

LOl exactly but it doesnt matter cause u get the royal navy in exchange

[hexed verge]

yup

[storm solstice]

this always happened to me

except whn i built two extra CVs with carrier planes

[hexed verge]

yeah it doesnt matter cus you just steal their navy anyway

[feral salmon]

then you can invade the usa in 1939

and you won

[feral salmon]

i don't even know a thing abotu the navy

it doesn't matter in the case of nfrance

[opaque garden]

is this a good plane design for early 37

[hexed verge]

which country

[feral salmon]

i don't even build planes till 1938 because before that they're not reliable

[opaque garden]

broski what is the plane model called

and look at the mio

[feral salmon]

italy

[opaque garden]

fyi its italy

[silk abyss]

Air range isnt complete very important. More air attack and air defense is better

[feral salmon]

its the one plane u unlock with the focuus

[silk abyss]

It can be a very strong idea

[opaque garden]

ik that but tf do u want me to do

i fot 2 slots

[hexed verge]

it depends on the country because there isnt a one size fits all design, it depends on the country, where your fighting on, who your fighting against, and your industry

[opaque garden]

ik that but im gonna rush uk

[silk abyss]

remove a air range with debuff of air defense. replace it with a turret

[feral salmon]

2018 strategy

[opaque garden]

wdym?

[hexed verge]

you can get all of these plus turkey and greece

[opaque garden]

ik

but i wanna get uk first

[feral salmon]

tbf you don't even need plmanes for uk thiis early

[hexed verge]

just get a good tank or spg design and you should sweep the uk

[feral salmon]

you don't

need

spg

to

sweep

uk

in

1937--1938

[hexed verge]

YES BUT ITS STILL GOOD

[opaque garden]

my army is fine default italy army is fine i just need to get a port

[hexed verge]

TO HAVE

[silk abyss]

If i were u i would have focus air complete and less equiment. Then use airborne to capiluate france and Uk by 1937

[feral salmon]

theres a thousand ports in northern france

and

just go for dover

and boom you have the port

because uk in 1937-1938 is dormant

[hexed verge]

sometimes the uk has 30 divisions on dover

[opaque garden]

ur not helping at all btw

[hexed verge]

yes

they do

[opaque garden]

socrates hate to break it to you

[feral salmon]

not in my runs

[opaque garden]

but ur the opposite of him,

[opaque garden]

i would like to use a WORD I CANT USE

[feral salmon]

define Socrates as a person

[silk abyss]

I recommend you to produce crazy a lot of planes and use airborne to get enemy port. then attack Uk with all you have

[opaque garden]

my school is called socrates

[feral salmon]

why are you just doxxing yourself

[hexed verge]

uk has tier 5 AA all along the coast

you would effectively be fighting with 10% strength divisions

and if the uk has ANY division on the port you arent getting that port

[silk abyss]

Yeag but i did that in 1937 and kill Uk at 1937

[opaque garden]

wait wtf

where are the railways

why are they not showing up

[silk abyss]

Did you eat all railyways?

maybe bug

[opaque garden]

eh maybe i cant afford garrisons

[storm solstice]

and i assume as france we dont build any civs, spy agency, etc

[silk abyss]

Spy agency very important and yeah you dont build any civs

[storm solstice]

i mean to early cap uk and germany

in 38

[feral salmon]

you build civs until you become napoleonic france

then you go full on mils

[storm solstice]

and fight both countries with 12 mils?

[feral salmon]

son

fight uk first t hen germany

😭

[storm solstice]

i mean its basically one after another

😭

[feral salmon]

yes but you still have 1 year and a half to build mils for germany

and remember you get uk's mils and civs

aaswell as their puppets

belgium, netherlands and luxembourg too

[silk abyss]

oh you want early cap Uk and germany. then you gotta build millarty facty and upgrade spy agency. Give you a massive buff

[grim oxide]

Did you load a save that was made before the supply was reworked?

[opaque garden]

ironman

[grim oxide]

Bruh ironman dont have anything that answers to the question i asked

[proven rain]

how to fix this

[opaque garden]

when was supply reworked?

[grim oxide]

Uhh i forgot prob like 2021

[opaque garden]

no

[grim oxide]

Maybe when like no step back dlc came

Around that time

[opaque garden]

no

[grim oxide]

Forgot version

[opaque garden]

didn't even play back then

[grim oxide]

Well cant u just change version to older

[proven rain]

.

[opaque garden]

yes

[proven rain]

can someone talk

[grim oxide]

Produce or capture equiqment

[opaque garden]

cmd: annex ger

cmd: annex fra

cmd: annex usa

cmd: annex jap

cmd: annex eng

cmd: annex sov

[blazing cave]

uh can someone help me learn how to play the game like i kinda know what to do but i just dont know what im actually doing

if someone can i would love that

[grim oxide]

Just watch tutorial from youtube

[keen hemlock]

https://youtu.be/WCqXIRRVZIY

[blazing cave]

i still didnt understand it tbh

[feral salmon]

watch tutorials and play the game

[blazing cave]

okay i will watch again

[feral salmon]

you need over 1000 hours to be considered intermediate so progression can be very slow and it's normal

[blazing cave]

holy shit

so its not possible for me to study and learn this in about uh 3 hours?

[lethal maple]

how much hours do you have

[grim oxide]

Nah

[blazing cave]

watch me learn this in 3 hours is there like any vc's i can join and stream this?

[grim oxide]

U cant even learn most of the stuff because alot of it requires dlcs so it would prob bankrupt you and you couldnt pay the electricity bills so u would not be able to even try to learn it

[blazing cave]

ohh so most of the game is just dlc's

also what vc can i join and just yk stream my gameplay

[glacial steeple]

3 hours for what ?

[glacial steeple]

also you can

its just different a bit

[grim oxide]

Wdym by a bit...

[glacial steeple]

like the combat works the same ?

theres just less stat difference and less bloat

[grim oxide]

True

[glacial steeple]

sure designs might differ but designs are lowkey mostly irrelevant

[grim oxide]

But aint spy stuff dlc

[glacial steeple]

yeah but thats spies

do you use spies a lot ?

[twin kayak]

well, it's normal I nought the game 5 days ago

[grim oxide]

Nah but it part of learning the game

[twin kayak]

I have so many questions

but as germany, I can easyly get europe, but I always f up for brittain

once I land, I get absolutely destroyed

[grim oxide]

Just use paratrooper strat or smth

[twin kayak]

well, that's the problem

my troops land and they don't push

I don't have enough planes

[grim oxide]

Need port

[twin kayak]

they don't get the port

[grim oxide]

Get marines or smth

[twin kayak]

and with my navy, idk what to do with them

[grim oxide]

Or distract their garrison using a weak naval invasion and then make the main naval invasion

[twin kayak]

and when I build ships, I dont have enough ressources, when I build planes, I don't have enough ressources, when I equip my troops, I don't have enough planes nor ships

idk what I'm doing wrong

[glacial steeple]

because they defend themselves lol

[grim oxide]

U gotta buy them

[glacial steeple]

poland netherlands belgium france are made to lose

ussr and uk arent

[twin kayak]

ohhh, didn't know that

[glacial steeple]

youll have to fight actual forces

[keen hemlock]

wait what

[twin kayak]

that means ?

[glacial steeple]

a weakness of uk inherently is lack of oil in their core territories, and most of their resources comign from colonies

[grim oxide]

Use the trading system

[glacial steeple]

if you can either stop that, or secure air supremacy, the uk is not able to defend itself nearly as well

[twin kayak]

and I buy planes, ships and equipment ?

[grim oxide]

No u buy resources

[glacial steeple]

and for naval invasions the uk is able to concentrate forces on a small invasion, so make sure you have strong dedicated landing units and/or land in a very large area

[twin kayak]

I can't build an airforce

[glacial steeple]

ideally both such as hitting the entire south coast

[glacial steeple]

youre capable of it

[twin kayak]

how

[keen hemlock]

i hit only 2 ports today and got effed up

[twin kayak]

when I focus the air force, my troops fight with sticks

[glacial steeple]

making mils and putting them on improved fighter airframe? 900km range is enough

you could do heavy fighters too ig

also make refineries

[twin kayak]

improved fighter ?

[glacial steeple]

and dont make civs as germany, its detrimental

[glacial steeple]

1940 frame

[twin kayak]

even with the mefo bills

[glacial steeple]

especially mefo bills

mefo bills make your civs really bad

and mils really good

[twin kayak]

can you tell me what to produce as equipment ?

do I just go for plain infantry or motorized

[hoary glen]

Build them with Mils

[glacial steeple]

depends on what your build is

you cant do everything

as germany you can choose 2 of any branches (air/navy/infantry/tanks)

but not all

[twin kayak]

usually, I have 24 divs of motorized and 72 of plain infantry

[dull bear]

as turkey, i cant create a faction, so whats the command for creating it, as create_faction doesnt work(it says unkown command)?

[twin kayak]

should I go for infantry and air ?

[glacial steeple]

up to you

also you should remember hoi4 isnt based on real life combat wise lol

its a lot different

[twin kayak]

can you explain further

[glacial steeple]

any designs you see are typically far different from what a real army would use

and combat modifiers are insane

[twin kayak]

gonna try another campaing and come back in 1 hour after failing for the 6th time today

[worn stratus]

Non aligned they said

[lethal maple]

lol

[worn stratus]

Why arent they democratic

[glossy hatch]

what are the best traits for generals?

[lethal maple]

idk

what is your nation focus

[twin kayak]

should I wait for this focus before attacking the uk ?

[lethal maple]

yes

of course

[rose kelp]

anyone wanna olay a learning game

i lowkey suck

[twin kayak]

if you find someone, ping me plz

[grim oxide]

Well i could but i on vacation rn so yeah will be back from it in like 22hours

[tepid umbra]

you don't HAVE to

[tepid umbra]

wdym

[grim oxide]

I think he means like mp game where someone teaches him or smth

[twin kayak]

1936 germany

should I produce this equipment ?

it's only this

[subtle socket]

people have lots of diff play styles hard to say

but im a big fan of putting everything on gun day 1 and making 2 widths so i can rush anchellus

and then i do a normal set up whcih for me is like all tank

and like 1-3 on everything else

[tepid umbra]

don't produce those planes

[tepid umbra]

you don't really need 2 widths that wastes army xp

[subtle socket]

against ai f1 cannon will out trade them untilt he end

[tepid umbra]

you can rush anschluss by just making like 6 or so of the default inf

[subtle socket]

2 dith best template

its 5 army xp

[twin kayak]

why ?

[subtle socket]

to send 11 vols to spain

[tepid umbra]

5 army xp that you needn't spend

[tepid umbra]

they suck ASS

[subtle socket]

homie

[twin kayak]

so wait for 1940 models ?

[tepid umbra]

get them as early as possible

[twin kayak]

2 width ?

[subtle socket]

look at any good players online profile its 2 width as most used for a reason

[twin kayak]

what is that

[subtle socket]

u need them for every exploit known to man

including rushing anchellus

[subtle socket]

small template

@tepid umbra against ai f1 cannon does indeed outrade them for awhile bc ai is stupid af

[tepid umbra]

you don't need them for rushing anschluss

[subtle socket]

what do u do instead?

[tepid umbra]

not even

[twin kayak]

I have this

[tepid umbra]

6 of the default infantry template from day 1

[twin kayak]

base germany

[tepid umbra]

gets you anschluss as fast as possible

[subtle socket]

default infantry needs support and arty equipment

i do anch after todt

and i dont make any sup or arty

sup gets used for collabs

[tepid umbra]

I do anschluss as soon as possible

[subtle socket]

unless u wanna be 0 exo germany

which sounds like ur build if ur not doing collabs

[tepid umbra]

you can easily get industry for both

you should have sup for units

[subtle socket]

i have 10k hours in mp bro

[tepid umbra]

your tanks and inf need it

[subtle socket]

idk maybe ur just better

💀

[feral salmon]

no?

[tepid umbra]

go outside bruh

that's sad

[subtle socket]

i do

[twin kayak]

what is sup ?

[subtle socket]

support equipment

[subtle socket]

?

guys im not alone saying what im saying

every single germany guide

made by all the sweats say the same

like wvey single one

[tepid umbra]

dude you've spent an 8th of your life on hearts of iron 4

at minimum

[subtle socket]

how do uk how old i am?

[tepid umbra]

since hoi4 released

it came out in 2016

10k hours is an 8th of that time

[subtle socket]

you said an 8th of MY life

[feral salmon]

earliest you can do anschluss is ~20th of may which requires you making exactly 10 divisions of the default german templates

[subtle socket]

but yes that does sound correct

[tepid umbra]

dawg 💔

[subtle socket]

default german div needs

arty and sup

which is a waste to produce more of

[tepid umbra]

you only need like 6

[subtle socket]

yeah u need to produce for that

[tepid umbra]

i'd rather have to produce miniscule extra amounts of equipment then spend any unnecessary army xp

[feral salmon]

do you think i'd be saying this without trying under that amount?

[subtle socket]

5 army xp bro

[tepid umbra]

you only need 6

[feral salmon]

ive tried 6

[subtle socket]

olive prob waits till austria does

[tepid umbra]

if you convert all your divisions to the inf from the start

[subtle socket]

their focuses

and wastes the 50 pp

[tepid umbra]

no

[subtle socket]

to lower the requirement

[tepid umbra]

son 💔

[feral salmon]

dude

LOL

because you have 4 diivisions that aren't inf

so 4 + 6

10

[tepid umbra]

but those 4 still have the same equip

[tepid umbra]

I do rhineland

then reorganize the wehrmacht

then anschluss

[subtle socket]

thats bad

[tepid umbra]

from the start of the game

[subtle socket]

no todt?

[tepid umbra]

I do todt after

[subtle socket]

yeahbthats bad

yeah**

[tepid umbra]

it really doesn't matter

[feral salmon]

it does

[tepid umbra]

I'd rather have the anschluss industry earlier

[subtle socket]

it rly does

[feral salmon]

todt > earlier industry

[subtle socket]

against clankers it doesnt ely matter

u could do 0 mills and 0 focuses

and still win

so it s a useless argument

but if u wanna minmax its a diff argument u do todt first and also dont uk general rearm instantly

genii looks think i can do 0 focus germany and 0 mil gwrm and win against ai

[twin kayak]

but how can I get air supremacy over poland ?

[tepid umbra]

rush air

or just don't get air supremacy

you can still use the weaker air but it's very weak

[twin kayak]

what year hsould I attack poland ?

as soon as possible ?

[grim oxide]

Well up to u

If u wanna do historical go 1939

[storm solstice]

okay i am avenging waterloo now will i fail my 6th france run

[twin kayak]

what about the mefo bills thing

[storm solstice]

do u spam disengage to kep ur navy alive

[feral salmon]

you'll get the royal navy in exchange it doesnt matter

you just want the initial landing to work

[storm solstice]

ive put nothin ginto air or navy, and i still have not landed

[opaque garden]

.

[feral salmon]

you want to make the naval invasion ready before udeclare

like ships in english channel and all

[storm solstice]

it was readty before declare

i even activate the order

[feral salmon]

were the ships on patrol

[grim oxide]

U can cancel them at start to not have to pay them

[feral salmon]

??

[twin kayak]

doesn't it destroy my economy ?

[feral salmon]

why would you do that

[storm solstice]

Yes

[grim oxide]

Well if u dont want to pay them

[feral salmon]

the whole point of mefo bills is to get 250 mils in 1939

why would you not want that

and then you get economy of conquest which is just as busted

[feral salmon]

show the navy

[storm solstice]

Navy was level 2 all in a deathstack

[grim oxide]

Well mefo bills kinda destroy economy after u go to war

[feral salmon]

did you set it to engage at low risk

[storm solstice]

i didnt change any engagement rules

[feral salmon]

well try it with engage at low risk

[storm solstice]

okay they landed

[feral salmon]

there u go

now bring all ur diivissions

in dover

and blitz london and south west

also i find dover + porthsmouth to work better

atleast in my exp

[storm solstice]

i did the spg strat uk is getting fried

[grim oxide]

Well i usually go the other economy path because i too lazy to manage economy of conquest

[storm solstice]

should i take benelux or hold that lien against germany

the extended laginot

[feral salmon]

autarky achieved (which you can get in like 1939-1940 by annexing uk) removes them

so you're not really going to be in debt

[subtle socket]

ive beaten a player navy on uk as france by simply just spamming

1 ship

torp destroyers

take patrol boats sub doctrine and the 10% visibility in offcercorp

[feral salmon]

i usually go:
build civs
turn to napolleonic france + build mils
invade benelux + plan invasion of uk
invade uk
prepare for germaany
invade germany

[subtle socket]

and ull beat ai navy 99% of time even as france

[feral salmon]

hes in sp

[subtle socket]

if your also simply just going for killing germ

[feral salmon]

you dojn't have to do allat

[subtle socket]

dont build any civs

civs take 3-4 to pay off in investment

just build infrastructure in the tiles behind maginot they have lots of building slots

then buiod mills

[feral salmon]

yeah but in sp it doesnt really change much

whether u buold civvs or mills

[subtle socket]

changes output by a lot

but against ai it dont rly matter ig

as i said nothing matters against ai if u just use the right templates

[feral salmon]

you'll get like 3 extra mils

[subtle socket]

lol socrates

3 mills in 36

is more relevant than 20 in 39

because of the cap and output it gives

and its far more than 3 mills

with just france witthout invading u have 80 mills for war all at full effiencu

[grim oxide]

I think i never took uk when i did economy of conquest because was too lazy and i almost never play germany

[subtle socket]

and right side france 3 ind bonuses and cap u can have 110 % cap on ur tanks

even more if u have good mio lvls

[feral salmon]

so by that logic building mils instead of civs as any country would be better

[subtle socket]

if ur goal is to end the game in 39 yes

it is

in mp theres a very viable as germ and normal strat that u build mills day 1

its like the most used build right

because u annex alot of civs in 39 to keep u going

so by this logic the only nations that should build civs is people playinf for 1941

[storm solstice]

and do u declare on germany with czechosolvakia or leave them be

[subtle socket]

aka dday barb

[subtle socket]

just do the focus and annex for free

[austere roost]

You do it with focus because you get cores on sudetenland and 50 compliance on rest of czechia

[storm solstice]

thats a wrap

god i forgot abt italy

[dim mantle]

how do you open the list of countries with their ranks etc?

ive seen it in many gameplays but i cant find it

[keen hemlock]

wdym

"ranks"

[red grove]

How do I win this?

[dim mantle]

like number 1, 2, 3... based on who's strongest

it has like all their info, industry, divisions, etc

[storm solstice]

u gotta exit the game

then i tshows

[keen hemlock]

^

[dim mantle]

not that one, its similar tho

you could access it in game

ive seen it in gameplays

maybe its a mod, idk

[feral salmon]

what ru even playing as

[languid tartan]

Greater Germany and Yugoslavia

[red grove]

Sweden bro

Or well, nordic league

and I have restored the swedish empire so

alot of manpower

but US feels freaking impossible man

Naval invasions get crushed, I could try and invade through Mexico but idk

[feral salmon]

just destroy uk and invade usa from canada

atlantic is painful

[red grove]

UK is long gone

[feral salmon]

yeah use canada then

[red grove]

Canada broke free, they turned facist

I do not have Canada

[feral salmon]

that's very unlucky

[red grove]

I could try and declare, but it is likely that they would join US, considering the monroe doctrine an all that

[feral salmon]

try getting a foot in mexico maybe?

[dire spoke]

is there a way to fix my supply on this

[feral salmon]

unless they're democratic

[grim oxide]

Trucks

[red grove]

Mexico is in their faction lol, I'm already at war with them.

But I guess I could try and push up from there

[feral salmon]

yeah ur unlucky then

[dire spoke]

How do i get trucks over to this part im a little new at the navy so idk how to use convoys that much

[red grove]

Very, non-historical can be painful sometimes...

[feral salmon]

just try to rush supply hubs and stuff

[red grove]

Does the US enforce the monroe doctrine even on its facist neighbours?

[grim oxide]

Im too lazy to explain so just search for hoi4 supply tutorial

[grim oxide]

At yt

[feral salmon]

yes

[storm solstice]

if usa does giant wakes r u cooekd

[dire spoke]

rip ive been searching for a good one but none explain how to transport said supply across oceans 😢

[red grove]

shite

[storm solstice]

i beat germany jan 1940

[red grove]

Well, I'll try Mexico I guess

[grim oxide]

It automatically done by ports and convoys

[feral salmon]

now kill usa

asap

and then you can just do whatever u want

[red grove]

Yeah, just dont wait with the US till 1952, like I did...

[feral salmon]

atp jst give up lmao

[red grove]

Yeah, I'm gonna naval invade Philadelphia just so I can control Virginia for 1 second, then I can make the formable I am aiming for.

[storm solstice]

i did a usa invasion in 1950 a few years ago and got done in 1962

[red grove]

How bro

[storm solstice]

they had over 1000 divisions

i had to painstakingly nuke every tile

[grim oxide]

Tbh there nothing to do after it

[storm solstice]

this is before the supply system

[red grove]

Nice, my problem is I can not reach any of their tiles.

[red grove]

ah

[storm solstice]

i have no

manpower

[grim oxide]

Give the children guns...