ask-for-help-here

[glacial steeple]

you dont need to "build up" or "be ready" you simply need to outperform your opponents

of iraq, turkiye

you need enough units to hold the line if major powers intervene and you need to be capable of rushing down/force attacking into kuwait

[vital plinth]

Ok 👍

It’s because some focus towards Persian empire and other core and focus says I can demand land from Iraq or Afganistan if I have bigger military

[glacial steeple]

you do not need a proper army, you would like a few offensive mountaineer divs

they are the least research and resource intensive

but if not then just make sure you have more units out, you have a border with india which could be dangerous

you have a coastline that could be dangerous

with historical ai the soviets and uk should simultaneously attack you

[vital plinth]

Should I do some focus to boost resseach speed and add resseach slot ? They take 30 days tho which is annoying

I have only 2 slots and - 12% because of a spirit

[glacial steeple]

and you need to be prepared to defend against such scenarios

if you can get to the research slot reasonably yes

you should also ofc do your political tree, but iran is very poorly positioned

none of your neighbours are easy to conquer

[vital plinth]

I can start the focus that unlocks slot after doing 2 focuses and they are in the main political tree

[light knoll]

with non historical ai the uk might decide to kill you in 39

very fun

[vital plinth]

Iraq is guaranteed by the British tho which is annoying

[glacial steeple]

ive been there

its pretty easy to hold tbh

[light knoll]

i was at war with turkey

[glacial steeple]

well then dont do that

best iran path is communist imo

you get a free defensive war

[light knoll]

i need to somehow expand..

[glacial steeple]

which means you can do your war tree down to the second to last focus

and you can peace any enemy out just 1 focus in

also it gives free techs

[light knoll]

no cores tho

[glacial steeple]

but you can larp

[light knoll]

cores>larp

coring is just fun

gives a purpose to the game

[glacial steeple]

my purpose is to defeat and humiliate my opponents

in the video game

[balmy dawn]

Does Infrastructure affect how many Buildings you can put in a province?

[glacial steeple]

no

[light knoll]

no
but you can add one more slot

at full infra

for pp cost

[glacial steeple]

100 pp

[balmy dawn]

The Region-Wide development thingee?

[light knoll]

which is like
late game thing

[light knoll]

yea

[balmy dawn]

bet

[vital plinth]

I want to try expand as empire by going the Persian empire route

But I can try with Afganistan first maybe or see if British pulls their guanteee from Iraq

[glacial steeple]

ill try it in a run i cant give great advice

[glacial steeple]

guarantee stays

[vital plinth]

Or go for turkey after Afganistan

[glacial steeple]

invading afghanistan requires building a supply hub

at minimum

afaik it requires 2

invading ussr isnt exactly the hardest but would take long

[vital plinth]

Oh they don’t take it back if they are gonna guanteee other countries

[glacial steeple]

invading anything british is the hardest thing you can do

invading turkey sucks because of the poor supply in kurdistan

[vital plinth]

I saw a focus that adds a supply hub for that

[glacial steeple]

yes and you need 2 more

[vital plinth]

And the border of Turkey i believe

[glacial steeple]

ive tried

turkey is also an issue of the other side

the turkish rail system does not exist in the region

[vital plinth]

Oh ok :(( so they are impossible or very hard to invade at all

[glacial steeple]

and also turkiye has a better army and mil eco

uhh just hard

not impossible

similar for afghanistan

it sucks

but you can do it

[vital plinth]

Afganistan I could lure troops into my own land and circle them maybe ?

[neat widget]

I've done it for Turkey without building supply hubs

[glacial steeple]

your positioning is just poor

[glacial steeple]

not really the issue

even if they have just 3 units

afghanistan sucks to fight in

[neat widget]

because you get Mosul and Tabriz, and then you can gamble in getting one of the Turkish supply hubs

[glacial steeple]

you will run out of supply

[neat widget]

but yeah that is unreliable

[vital plinth]

Hmm I see

Afganistan dont have a supply hub close to border if I manage to reduce their divisions down to 2-3 I can try sneak to one and try hold it and then build rail way towards me to connect it

[glacial steeple]

which hub ?

they can spawn 1 hub in and the ai like never does it

[neat widget]

for afghanistan, yeah, you don't have any good supply hubs unfortunately

Maybe you can paradrop Kabul

[glacial steeple]

you dont have transports or paras researched

2 slots

it will be pretty bad for your overall fighting ability as you lose time on guns/production

[vital plinth]

Hmm yeah but have the focuses that give me some Afganistan lands by demand based on milletrary strength same for Iraq not sure if it has a supply hub tho xd ,

[glacial steeple]

this is best case for a hub spawning in

and the ai never does that one

thats still a long distance between them with like no infra

sorry i got it wrong

its a bit further to the south

in the farah vp

[neat widget]

Turkey is time constrained

Due to guarantees

[glacial steeple]

im gonna try a run on hist

[neat widget]

Afghanistan most often isn't

[glacial steeple]

i dont believe in guarantees

just fight everyone

[neat widget]

If you attack Turkey you will get attacked by both the Axis and the Allies at the same time, and probably also the Comintern

[glacial steeple]

thats ideal

[neat widget]

Also this Iran vs Turkey thing has basically become my baseline on how difficult new patches are, so I've done it like six times already

[glacial steeple]

sob

wdym

like to test your military?

[neat widget]

To test the new patch features and how hard paradox makes it

[glacial steeple]

i mean

on ahist you can abuse SAVAK and make civil wars

thats fun

[neat widget]

yeah savak abuse is fun too

[vital plinth]

Ok i just checked , the demand I can get from Iraq is border to Turkey and it says supply hub

[glacial steeple]

yeah theres one in mosul

[vital plinth]

Yup

[glacial steeple]

iran sadly kinda sucks lol

its a lot weaker than iraq or afghanistan in practice

[vital plinth]

Yeah true I just like the Persian history and seemed fun to try

Getting those demand territories , I could strike Turkey first and then Iraq but it’s weird because after the focus with war with Iraq it leads to focus to annex suez and Egypt. But if Iraq is guanteee by British doesnt make sense lol

[neat widget]

There is a small period of time when Iraq turns fascist and removes that guarantee

[vital plinth]

Yeah could be good chance to attack then

Just saw a guided a guy pulls far back from Afganistan close to his nearest supply hub ina. Big circle and lets the Afganistan come to him with all troops then from buttom he cuts out of supply and taken lands in half and encircle them by pinning them in battle he is free to use the troops behind the enemy to go further in and take the empty lands

@glacial steeple so also saw him mentioning putting defense turret in the north border of Turkey and let them push into Mosul and into you from south where they will strengh thin and cut them off and do it on repeat couple of times until they low and then take their lands

[glacial steeple]

you can move back and lose time, or you can move forward

im never a fan of having to pull back but its probably more reliable

i think having economy, positioning is a lot of the time more valuable

[neat widget]

Yeah you can kill some troops that way and whittle down the Turksih army to the point where you can push

I've done as much before

but I can't imagine it'd be easy if you lose Tabriz and Mosul

[pliant condor]

I hate all the minors because I know the correct play is to make air and invade uk

but why would I play if it's the same thing on every minor

[neat widget]

true

[glacial steeple]

okay so maybe im doing it wrong but where do you derive fun from this war

[neat widget]

You got Malatya

the disassembly of Turkey begins now

[glacial steeple]

it took like a year

[neat widget]

and yeah the war isn't exactly the most fun thing in the world

[glacial steeple]

well not rlly

like 6 months

[neat widget]

You don't even need to connect Malatya by rail since it is connected by river to Mosul

[glacial steeple]

i saw that

[neat widget]

also why does britain own rhodes

[glacial steeple]

how quickly do you do this is it like 3 months

[neat widget]

well yeah that's about expected tbh

[glacial steeple]

italy is having a pretty bad time

[neat widget]

also you're still at war with romania so prepare for that

[glacial steeple]

wdym prepare

[neat widget]

naval invasions

[glacial steeple]

they cant get dominance afaik

romania navy sucks

[neat widget]

true

[glacial steeple]

i also have a larger navy

but going for bulgaria before striking the west might be smart

i WILL sttike first

[neat widget]

Yeah I typically gobble up balkans

[glacial steeple]

honestly maybe not because its 39

i greeded all the factory focuses ngl 💔

[neat widget]

I think only Hungary joins in 1939?

[glacial steeple]

thats not the issue

i wanna attack the uk

france

soviets

[neat widget]

Ah I see

In that case you have to conquer Syria and Lebanon before France falls I think

So it's going to be variable

But regardless Romania must still die

[glacial steeple]

liv are you like the only ever iran main

[neat widget]

wouldn't even say that nowadays tbh

[glacial steeple]

okay maybe not now specifically

but i mean before recent developments

[neat widget]

recent developments?

[glacial steeple]

things we should not discuss as according the the hoi4 server rules

[neat widget]

OH I see what you mean

No, not related

It's just that I've done it so much I don't do it outside of major changes, and it's a pretty consistent way to see if game mechanics got much harder

I haven't played much hoi4 in 1.17.4, but I think other countries might be better for this patch since they've actually changed

[glacial steeple]

its a pretty bad patch for a lot of things ngl

stuff is all so bloated so once youre better its just like easier

[neat widget]

Yeah true

I've done some Iraq tests to see how much it changed there

[glacial steeple]

and im not a very good player as is universally known in the community and its like, macro matters more and more

macro isnt really fun to a lot of people

its a lot of like, gaming theory

after which the video game becomes pretty trivial

so, imo, the game design rn which focuses on like individual countries/playthroughs "feeling" stronger doesnt really work?

like you end up being in this loop of buff minor to beat major > buff major to scale better than minor with game mechanics that usually only really help major powers (spies, air designer, mastery, coal)

[native gorge]

im confused

[violet maple]

do divisions buffs apply to special forces divisions?

infantry divisions buffs

mb

[glacial steeple]

infantry buffs apply to all infantry units

you can check at the bottom of any division which buffs it is eligible for

next to the hardness bar

[shrewd stump]

You need help

Just click on that it will show you a video tutorial

[celest oxide]

Yea i know bro

I did the subtle one once

Then the VILLA 5 TIMES

[dusty sandal]

It applies to "leg infantry" which default symbol is inf
Leg inf is anything that uses just guns and has a base speed of 4km/h,unlike "infantry" which only affect said batallion

[dusty sandal]

Does new zealand exist ?

[fathom thistle]

Is there anything I can do to increase the chance for Wilhelm II to not return?

[dusty sandal]

Bad relations with netherlands or them not existing

[native gorge]

Yep

[dusty sandal]

I have 3 guesses :
1 - your game is modded and is breaking something with the map in south africa
2 - somehow, you took of of australia s island (guadalcanal) and it's blocking the focus even though it's not a core
3 - same but with a nz island

[native gorge]

Aight I'll look into that

[native gorge]

Oh yep I somehow got Samoa island for some reason

Wait

Nvm

That was Fiji

[native gorge]

What're the islands of NZ I kinda didn't bother to look at it

Wait wat

So I loaded a save file before this debacle happened

And I can now do the Imperial conference

But like all I did beforehand was do the Imperial Conscription focus

Ion get it

[languid trout]

its saying that every core state of all of the dominions must be owned by them

return all of their core territories to them

[jagged scaffold]

Guys, how do I fix this?

I'm new to the game and I don't know how to regain organization or deal with attrition

[cold bloom]

Send 2/3rd of those units back to Italy first

[little cloak]

man that is not look good

[jagged scaffold]

Alright, with a drawback line?

[jagged scaffold]

😔

[little cloak]

for front line in the next time press shift + left click

[cold bloom]

thats easiest way to retreat them yeh, make sure theyre assigned though, can hold ctrl to do that easily

[jagged scaffold]

Assigned to an army?

[quaint needle]

to the fallback line

if not they'll remain on their original frontline order

[jagged scaffold]

Alright done.

How do I make these folks just stand still and not engage?

[cold bloom]

Stop the plan executing, then select the units and press H

[wise heron]

when does communist post puppet italy leave the allies after ww2?

[jagged scaffold]

How do I stop it?

[cold bloom]

red square top left above the general with the order

[jagged scaffold]

Alright. So one I moved one army back to Italy as you said and the other army is now chilling at the border

Wut now?

[cold bloom]

You want them to have high strength and org before you attack, so try to catch up with any equipment defecits and try to fix the supply situation at the front

If you have trucks you can motorize your supply hub(s) with motorized supply from the supply map mode, you could maybe even retreat a little to get org, and then rush and attack to one of their supply hubs

[jagged scaffold]

Sure, I just need a bit more detail always regarding the "How?"s

😅

[jagged scaffold]

Oh yeah I do have them, they are "stockpiled"

[marble mountain]

my mods doesnt appear

[jolly escarp]

Wtf??? I only capped turkiye and I lost all my greek land to yugoslavia but I still get to take them?

It said there were 3 majors

this is ironmade mode btw

[devout lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-hand-hoi4-hearts-of-iron-yugoslavia-gif-27522001

[daring gorge]

how do i manage mefo bills? like if thye reach so much like 90percnet what am i supposed to do

[cold garnet]

conquer more

steal gold

economy of conquest

[daring gorge]

what is that

[cold garnet]

wait

it is still called MEFO bill?

then go to war and fight

so you can steal gold

[daring gorge]

ah

so just do standard gameplay and steal gold in the decisions tab

[jade parrot]

is it actually worth it to join axis as Italy if you puppet / own / are friends with the balkans

[stuck garnet]

Idkk do you like germany?

[dusty sandal]

how does that change anything ?

need to kill uk ? if you don't have france you'll need germany's airports there

if you don't need to you don't need the axis

[gleaming dragon]

Does someone have the best cas or fighter design late game. I'm like 1950 and I don't feel like my air force is any good

(I researched all)

[jade tulip]

#ask-for-help-here message
is medium SP artillery that good?

[violet maple]

yes

[jade tulip]

you're pretty much trading all breakthrough for some minor soft attack increase

[violet maple]

thats why u mix it with normal tank divisions

[fathom thistle]

fighter

cas

[dusty sandal]

in 1950 it's probably outdated

[fathom thistle]

idk what else to add tbh

[dusty sandal]

singleplayer, air defence is useless

[fathom thistle]

fair enough

[dusty sandal]

you don't use CAS unless you have total air supremacy

and air defence doesn't proc in ground battle (CAS mission)

[gleaming dragon]

So uh what do I do

[dusty sandal]

basic rules of plane design :
1 - If you're not using all the thrust, you're doing something horribly wrong
2 - small airframe = 1 engine, medium = 2 engine. Period. If you don't respect that, then you're doing something horribly wrong
3 - Air attack, range and air defence are to be maxed out in this order of priority from top to lesser
4 - Range should always be at a bare minimum of 800km (it isn't great to be clear), 1000 is what you want to aim for a good light airplane. There is never too much range to have
5 - Light fighters always out-trade against heavy fighters, except in the pacific (where heavy fighters win due to light fighters lacking range and not being able to use superior numbers). Heavy fighters are a almost always a waste in singleplayer
6 - Agility and speed are useful but not primordial
7 - Heavy MG are the gun to use before you get canons 2 (1944 tech)
8 - Electronics are always a waste, except for strat bomber meme

in 1950, you should be using engine 4 on 1945 airframe with maxed heavy MG or jet engine and canons 2 (1945 tech)

[jade parrot]

is there risk of German invasion?

[daring gorge]

one of my spies just disappeared

no captured or anything hes just gone

is this a bug?

[strange furnace]

why is this happening? I gave them proper orders. I do not understand

[urban oriole]

turkey isn't in the war

[next garden]

What is a freaky convert

[strange furnace]

they are an integrated puppet. do i need to make them join?

[urban oriole]

obviously

[merry temple]

How to move an invasion? I'm playing as the USA, and I wanted to deploy in Germany, but my fleet rejects doing a patrol, and Idk why it's happening. I need a higher control ratio to deploy, but I can't do it without the fleet; the sea is just marked by red lines

[urban oriole]

since they aren't in the war your units are trying to find the quickest way to got where you want them and that is to go all around iraq

[urban oriole]

send a screenshot please

[merry temple]

Yeah, sure, one minute, please

[inner sparrow]

50w division that have only 100guns in them but count as fully equipped

u can train them for army xp and mastery, the more u have out the more u will get

[strange furnace]

how do I make them accept? call to arms doesnt seem to work

[urban oriole]

go to the war screen, find Turkey and call

sometimes it works there and not on the diplo screen

[strange furnace]

bruh

they have a non agression pact

can I break it from Turkey;s name?

[urban oriole]

I don't think so

ig you should do a naval invasion

[strange furnace]

worked

thank youu

no it just worked from the war meny

have a great day

[urban oriole]

nice, you too

[urban oriole]

do you have a naval supply hub nearby?

[merry temple]

I was going to fight against the UK and Soviet Union, but Japan declared the war and called Reich as my enemy

[urban oriole]

I think you cannot do it since you don't have allies there with naval hubs even tho you do have naval access to the uk

you'd need to be in a faction with a country there

[merry temple]

uhhh, Idk what does it mean. It's my first game tbh

[urban oriole]

it's a building that gives more range for your navy

[merry temple]

How can I see is there some or not?

[urban oriole]

go to construction tab

click on that building and where it's blue it means there's one there

if green it means you can place one there

[merry temple]

I see, but I can't build it anywhere

And the UK isn't about to accept my alliance joining request

Btw, why can I plan only 2 invasions at the same time?

[fathom thistle]

Any better alternative to an engineer support company for an offensive division?

I'm trying to mix up some stuff

[pearl heron]

update on this, i decided to try it today after deleting all the files then uninstalling on steam and reinstalling but the provinces are still broken

[scenic nacelle]

thats where u get supply from

[merry temple]

Ahhh, gotcha, ty

[vital plinth]

The game becomes a bit repetitive with the major powers and same thing I find minors a little more fun , but should I switch to non historical if I want more new game play ?

Cause allying with the axis seems they always lose even if one of the allied majors is taken out

[austere roost]

You can play this game however you want, that's the beauty of it

[burnt acorn]

This feature feels useless for some reason

It should be on on default.

[arctic aspen]

Does winning british civil war let you annex the raj aswell?

[sour wadi]

hey, did i do sumin wrong?

i cant give my puppet canada america

[sour wadi]

if you declare war on em, yes

essentially i went facist. did the civil war, delcared war on all the colonys and annexed them all except for canada

canada broke off, so i attacked them. monroe doctrine called the USA into the war

so i killed the USA

annex them. then i puppeted canada

[arctic aspen]

Im going to do this playthrough aswell but just not core america ill let them be the final boss

[sour wadi]

but i dont get the decision to unite canada and the USA

did i do sumin wrong? or

[trail reef]

whats the best boat and design to use for maximum mine efficency

[sour wadi]

i wanted to give canada to the USA

i mean, i wanted to give the USA to canada

did i need to do this?

[trail reef]

pretty sure u can just release usa as a puppet then do it

[keen hemlock]

^

[sour wadi]

saves me using a bunch of guns lol

garrisoning the USA is a pain

[trail reef]

whats the best boat and design to use for maximum mine efficency

[sour wadi]

ngl i thought the "is fully independent" thing would of been a little hiccup

thinking it ment the USA had to be

[keen hemlock]

As many mine laying as you can with nothing else, and put on no engage

I assume

[trail reef]

yeah but which boat crusier, destroyer etc

[keen hemlock]

Destroyer I assume

Subs can also do it

Same with planes but in pretty sure that’s a late game tech

[trail reef]

aight thanks

[keen hemlock]

Don’t put anything else on the destroyer besides the mandatory battery

[sour wadi]

i still cant do the decision? do i need to re-annex the USA?

[trail reef]

ok

[keen hemlock]

It needs to be Canada iirc

I was having trouble with that in my run

[sour wadi]

iirc?

i mean my puppet has the focus tree of cana

canada*

[keen hemlock]

I think you have to own the USA and have canada as a puppet

[keen hemlock]

If I remember correctly

Hold on

[sour wadi]

ive done the decision before in a former monarchist playthrough

so it is done by the UK

[keen hemlock]

https://youtu.be/igcGma2Nozs?si=52BQetPYDPjxR8HP

I watched this video and it worked out for me

[sour wadi]

i mean that was released 2 years ago

would of thought sumin would of changed

ill check it out

[keen hemlock]

Just for the path

There’s something not said for that decision, I know for sure

[trail reef]

does any of the sub doctrines give buffs to mine efficency

[sour wadi]

okay so ill annex the USA again, and hope it works

[keen hemlock]

There might be a coastal minelaying one

[trail reef]

yea thanks it was on the submarine one for some reason

[trail reef]

why cant i create a frontline i have military acsess and troops in their land

[fathom thistle]

they have to be in war too. u can move the troops in their land but thats it

[twilit widget]

guys im pretty new to the game. I have basic guided missiles. I have also built rocket sites. How do i shoot them.

[sterile void]

For missles i'm pretty sure you go to the rocket site and it should pop up with a menu. You choose what missile you want and if you want specific task prioritizations and then once it is done loading you select a area to strat bomb with it.

[twilit widget]

thank you. Now i see it

[lucid torrent]

You only get naval invasion notification when enemy already set the invasion to go, not the moment you planning it, right?

[quick marten]

what is the best path for iran on singleplayer, all dlc, vanilla?

[glacial steeple]

what do you wanna do?

[quick marten]

become big, preferably with cores but anything to just expand and wage war

[scenic nacelle]

persain empire?

[glacial steeple]

for expansion its the empire paths, for defending and research communist path, for larp but no gain islamic republic, for nukes democratic

fascist is also there i dont think it has great benefits iirc

but its there

[quick marten]

alright thanks, fascist tends to be good

these conversations must sound insane to non hoi4 players without context

[glacial steeple]

not really?

most fascist paths are not very good besides uk, germany, italy, france, maybe netherlands

oh and china

everyone else usually has better paths

[quick marten]

well sure but its safe to go fascist, allying with germany, getting war economy and higher conscriptions and often very easy expansion

but i see what u mean for sure

i love communist sweden actually, ridiculous research bonuses

[glacial steeple]

as a minor just do that with communism, better occupation law, manpower guy

[quick marten]

yeah sure but ive found allying germany to be more helpfull generally

by best occupation law you mean liberated workers, right?

[glacial steeple]

they have the best ai designs/behaviour in vanilla

[glacial steeple]

yes

[quick marten]

yeah its raelly good

[glacial steeple]

i dont play hist ai much, but fascist paths typically arent very good

[quick marten]

speaking of occupation ive tried megagaria in sp, its so annoying lmao

[glacial steeple]

bulgaria is OP

[quick marten]

i tend to disagree but there certainly are countries where there are better options

[quick marten]

in mp yeah sure, im mainly an sp guy

[glacial steeple]

its OP in either sob

[brazen glade]

Is there currently a glitch with the news?

[dusty sandal]

what glitch

[brazen glade]

Will say Like The “blank” joins the Axis

[dusty sandal]

oh, that's a classic

happens sometimes

[brazen glade]

The Netherlands joins the

How to fix

[dusty sandal]

just like "soviet union declares war on soviet union"

or funny purge moments when people accuse themselves

[brazen glade]

How do I fix this

[dusty sandal]

there's no fix except if you're using broken mods (disable them)

[brazen glade]

Damn but I love my mods

[light knoll]

to make the dominion of north America, do you need to own the US land or to have it as a puppet? or either works?

[scenic nacelle]

as the UK?

i think its own, then give it to puppet Canada in a decision

or just give it to canada in the peacedeal

then do it

[violet maple]

why

its so weak at the start

[light knoll]

yea just checked its owned
im playing as Canada, trying to get the uk to give it to me.

its the end of 1945 and these mfs still didn't do the focus

[torpid coral]

Hi guys i have some problem with achivement called Miklos Horthy and the Habsburg Prince

As Hungary, Restore Austria-Hungary.
Can maybe someone spot what i did wrong or havent done to fullfil the achievement needs?

[glacial steeple]

you need palestine

[torpid coral]

i am more than sure that i have it thats not the reason

[glacial steeple]

check the archievement tab

it tells you the requirements

[stuck garnet]

Palestine my beloved❤️

Fuuck can i move this to #off-topic

[glacial steeple]

?

[stuck garnet]

My take is that the most imperialized nations and the most downtrodden groups usually have the best histories

[glacial steeple]

no modern politics :> especially not in ask for help but also not in general

[stuck garnet]

Fair

[fathom thistle]

Will german ai be able to defeat allies if I help them clear the first d days and invasions?

or is it just so stupid

[raven maple]

Hey I’m trying to use the mod United States redux but it says that and I quote “This mod is made for another version of the game (1.13.)” so can anyone tell me how to fix this

[glacial steeple]

mod is just outdated

if it changes a lot, which i assume it does, a single major update could make it impossible to run

[raven maple]

O is there a mod that does the same thing usr does

[glacial steeple]

thats much worse with 4 major updates in between

[raven maple]

@glacial steeple is there a mod that isn’t outdated that does work that does the same thing

[dusty sandal]

check the workshop for mod with "focus tree" setting and key word "USA"

and check the last update of the mod

[raven maple]

How do I set the settings for that

[dusty sandal]

right side of the workshop

list of filters

[raven maple]

This?

[clear tide]

Yall as japan i do a full collab on china is there a way to get 100% compliance on the warlords?

[glacial steeple]

dont cap the warlords

[light knoll]

is there a way to edit the file of an ironman game to make it not ironman

[clear tide]

Anyone explain pls

[lusty spire]

how do i get rid of one of these lines

[jagged scaffold]

How do I supply troops who are in a warzone?

[opaque hemlock]

anyone can throw me the best militia division possible? the template

[tepid umbra]

should just be inf but you replace the inf with militia

[spark ocean]

what kind of fighter airplanes do you guys run?

[foggy cave]

how do you do airforce?

[jagged scaffold]

Guys if I have succesfully conquered Ethiopia as Italy, should I annex it or something else?

[fathom thistle]

if you are not fighting outside of ground (not invading uk overseas) you really only need fighter, cas and maybe transport planes for paratroopers if you do that

if you scroll down a bit in a pins there are actual designs there

[spare dune]

whats the best tank division template for early tank tech germany

[uncut narwhal]

you have nsb?

[ocean pasture]

you want to use heavy machine gun, 1 man turret, no radio, 3 heavy machine guns, riveted armour and the most expensive suspension

[neat widget]

honestly i tend to partition it into a bunch of puppets

[uncut narwhal]

heavy machine gun?

[light knoll]

no

[uncut narwhal]

also

1 man turret?

bro who told you this

[ocean pasture]

dont listen to these meta kids theyre trolling you

1 man heavy machine gun on inter war heavy tank gg wp

[spare dune]

did you not read? DIVISION TEMPLATE NOT TANK DESIGN

and no i dont have it

[uncut narwhal]

it makes a difference tho as far as i know

[jagged scaffold]

Well, I already annexed it, sowwy. 😅 But now the Ethiopians want their country back and resistance is growing. How do I deal with that?

[odd bear]

I am playing the usa what would be a good infantry template and tank also should I make more type of diffisions then tanks inf?

[jagged scaffold]

I put one army on "Area Defense", dunno if that helps

[uncut narwhal]

it doesnt

[jagged scaffold]

[uncut narwhal]

use 2w cavalry

as your garrison template

[jagged scaffold]

Wut is 2w cavalry?

[uncut narwhal]

just one battalion

of cavalry

[jagged scaffold]

How do I edit that? It says four battalions here

[uncut narwhal]

you have to go into the division

designer

and also

dont go to martial law

go to the one italy gets

or local police force

[jagged scaffold]

Here?

[uncut narwhal]

yes

you want 1

battalion

of cavalry

[jagged scaffold]

Alright

[jagged scaffold]

So I train one battalion of cavalry and how do I assign those folks as garrison?

[uncut narwhal]

you dont train them

[uncut narwhal]

you select the cavalry here

[jagged scaffold]

Oh alright, but won't that affect future cavalry divisions also, when I need to train them for other purposes?

[uncut narwhal]

you never ever want to use cavalry

so no

[fresh pawn]

hi! why cant i send my navy to attack this sea

[jagged scaffold]

Okay, now there is only one battalion assigned as garrison. So now I wait and hope for the problem to vanish?

[uncut narwhal]

you can also create a spy agency and put an operative to suppress resistance

[jagged scaffold]

I think its out of your range, saw it in a beginner guide. Maybe docking at a closer port will help?

[uncut narwhal]

do you have that dynamic home base turned on?

[jagged scaffold]

I accidentally researched Military Police at the beginning of the game, can that help?

[uncut narwhal]

oh yea

then

you want that as a support company

and the whole division

full of cavalry

for garrison

[jagged scaffold]

God dayum, I just removed cavalry. I don't have that much experience to make those changes

Can I gain these without fighting a war?

[uncut narwhal]

yes

train your divisions

or chief of army

[jagged scaffold]

Quick question: Should I dissolve armies into divisions after a war or should I keep them this way?

[uncut narwhal]

wdym

[jagged scaffold]

Should I keep these two armies at the bottom like this or seperate them back into small divisions

[uncut narwhal]

no dont seperate them

also

bring those armies

into mainland italy

and start converting

them to actual usable units

and not the trash italy starts with

[jagged scaffold]

I brought one back to Italy via fallback line and now they're chilling there.

[uncut narwhal]

bring back both

[jagged scaffold]

The other one was on "area defense" mode, I hoped that they would do something against the resistance, but apparently they don'T

[jagged scaffold]

Alright

[jagged scaffold]

Like this?

Oh damn Japan just attacked China

[fresh pawn]

this worked, thanks !

[uncut narwhal]

if you can just start filling the division

[uncut narwhal]

np

[jagged scaffold]

Should I just dump all of my experience in there?

[glacial steeple]

lets not say things like this, shall we?

[uncut narwhal]

not all

you still need it for doctrines

and your normal divs

[delicate latch]

when to cancel MEFO bills ? how to get rid of them? i did all price controls - PLS HELP

[jagged scaffold]

Currently its looking like this

[uncut narwhal]

you dont want to cancel them

[uncut narwhal]

its fine

just start converting

the bad italian divisions

into some decent infantry

and mountaineers

once you go to war

[delicate latch]

my consumer goods are quite high

how do I not cancel them? they are rising @uncut narwhal

[jagged scaffold]

Uhh, how do I do that?

[uncut narwhal]

how high are they and what year is it?

[tepid umbra]

do the decisions

[uncut narwhal]

did you do the focuses before autarky that increase it each by 10%?

[tepid umbra]

and if you've done all of them, get ready to declare war

[delicate latch]

yes @uncut narwhal

this is 1939

[uncut narwhal]

dont do those

[uncut narwhal]

go to war

[jagged scaffold]

Do I need to train this amount of Garrison divisions now?

[uncut narwhal]

bro

why is it on military governer

and no

you dont have to train

any garrison divs

[jagged scaffold]

Sir you told me to set it on the default for Italy

[uncut narwhal]

i meant the colonial thing

[glacial steeple]

those are bad divs for garrison, not supplied or both

[jagged scaffold]

So we just created a new division these, selected that one for garrisons and now we are good to go?

[uncut narwhal]

yea

id recommend you to watch a few tutorials tho

[jagged scaffold]

Forced Labour?

[delicate latch]

what happens to my MEFO bills if I go to war @uncut narwhal ?

[uncut narwhal]

just go to local police force

[jagged scaffold]

Thought they were good for garrisons😔

[jagged scaffold]

Yeah, probably should do that

[glacial steeple]

uh theyre fine

[tepid umbra]

it's fine to do them

[uncut narwhal]

you can decreasee them by plundering

[glacial steeple]

just when you add more cav, it uses fewer supports

[uncut narwhal]

but not if you dont know how to manage them

[glacial steeple]

so a small division with supports will use more equipment in garrisons

[uncut narwhal]

and theyre arent that useful

[glacial steeple]

something im not confident you can necessarily afford

[tepid umbra]

pretty sure it's 5+ tho

[glacial steeple]

its 6/0

mp

[tepid umbra]

for ic recovery

[jagged scaffold]

Why do my troops have a Star of David next to them?

[glacial steeple]

wdym lol

attritioning or

[jagged scaffold]

So I that's the reason why I need to fill them up with cavalry, as mister Steve recommended

[glacial steeple]

yes

it doesnt matter if they have no supports

[glacial steeple]

garrisons will use an amount of template they deem needed

[glacial steeple]

youre exercising them

its a cog

[jagged scaffold]

Okie

[tepid umbra]

yes

[jagged scaffold]

Ohhh, alright. Thought they all just converted to Judaism for a second (it's their choice ofc)

@uncut narwhal @glacial steeple Thank you guys! ❤️

[unborn gate]

how do I remove embargoed economy as poland

[glacial steeple]

gdynia branch focus tree

[unborn gate]

but I completed clam down on danzig already

[glacial steeple]

its like a whole thing with resistance and compliance

very painful

[delicate latch]

I dont understand htis MEFO bills plunder mechanic

[glacial steeple]

whats confusing

[delicate latch]

I dont understand how to reduce my consumer goods

[glacial steeple]

you click decision

your goal is autarky focus

[arctic stream]

I need help bro is this a good screening cruiser design? Navy is so confusing

[left glacier]

Looks like a good design. Although since you aren't using Depth charges, you should leave out the hydrophones/sonar empty or use radar

[arctic stream]

Thanks ill remove the sonar now

[left glacier]

For navy in general, you want to design your fleet to win decisive naval battles.
The way screening efficiency works is that 3-4 screens (destroyers/light cruisers) cover a capital ship (Heavy Cruiser, Battleships/Battlecruisers, Aircraft Carrier). 100% screening efficiency allows your capital ships to retreat faster, have a higher chance to hit ships, and prevents enemy submarines from torpedoing your capital ships. Screening efficiency for Aircraft Carriers uses 3-4 capital ships and increases carrier wing Sortie efficiency.

[arctic stream]

How do you see how efficent the screens are doing?

[left glacier]

For screening efficiency, you just need numbers.

[pearl imp]

Yo I am new to hoi4 and I am trying to become fachist I just can’t get enough land with my marching fo I need to march on london or can I just take all of the low policy towns and get lots of tiles that way ??????

[feral sonnet]

can someone help me in dm like give me advice to play usa and japan

[vital plinth]

Hey can someone help me as Iran I have a bad spirit that reduces my resseach speed a lot and political advisor cost by 25% cost more

I have 4 options to choose from one is right next to the first spriit so I can start it now or I have to do another route the spirit to it takes only 35 days each but are helping removing other debuffs as well , but I have 4 alternative options to this spirit and don’t know what is best what do you think ?

This is my current spirit at start

[hoary glen]

Take plus 10% Stab and start waging total war

[hoary glen]

USA you pick FDG and just click infra, then housing, then neutral, then Research then wait 30 Day Pick the next Reform then rush Limited Arms to get 10 WS to go partial in 38 either rush nuke or go for fighter. Build mils mid to end of 37 if you want to end the game in 1940

[glacial steeple]

just up to your priorities

stab can be fixed, but early stab is good

[hoary glen]

Rush China war and max collab. Have 40 12w on Bejing, use 10 marines to go north to south and reinforce with 12ws you have. Try to go fash before you cap them.

[glacial steeple]

tbh you cant do the marine stuff in vanilla

no free div edits

[hoary glen]

3 for every capital.

[hoary glen]

Only in battle unfortunately 😔

[hoary glen]

Armour 3 cl is king

[hoary glen]

You can get 10 12w Marines

That's cap anyway

[glacial steeple]

12w marines :(

so trash

[hoary glen]

Conquer anything asap. Click funny Button.

[hoary glen]

Enough for China

Stop coping start maining

China in 3 months. I believe in you

[glacial steeple]

ough i could practice for that

[hoary glen]

You can do it

[glacial steeple]

tbh not even that bad of an experience to practice

[hoary glen]

Quingdaow, then singa then just rush gunaxi

[glacial steeple]

guanxi is no

its puppet

[hoary glen]

Well whatever. Just stretch Frontline with Invasions

2 mils support, 3 mil Arty, 1-2 train, 1 Truck rest gun.

And use fleet for shore

[glacial steeple]

i know how mils work

[hoary glen]

Stop maining Denmark and Phili then

[glacial steeple]

in marcov ?

i play whatever i feel like smh

ive played both of those like twice maybe

[hoary glen]

Grow above your limits. Reach new heights

[glacial steeple]

japan is like my most played nation smh

its just i suck at learning and pattern recognition

[hoary glen]

I don't like like new Japan. Give me back the old one.

[glacial steeple]

theyre like the same thing

you lose some research ig

[hoary glen]

I believe in you

[delicate latch]

Is it better to annex or puppet these days?

[hoary glen]

You need to click like 30 more fucesses

[hoary glen]

Always annex unless larp

[glacial steeple]

its like the exact same thing

[hoary glen]

So why make me click 30 more buttons?

[glacial steeple]

tbh i hoped theyd make amphib tanks better and like a free tech for japan

thatd be fun

islands also matter so little that its silly

[hoary glen]

Also Marcov GER is OP. How do ppl lose on it?

[glacial steeple]

players there have actually negative brain activity

[hoary glen]

Imagine caring for Islands

[glacial steeple]

could you do it faster than 3 months with paras......

[hoary glen]

I can do it faster without them

[glacial steeple]

no like if there was a mechanic to make them important to US war support and japanese stab or stats itd be nice

[vital plinth]

Sorry what do you mean ?

[quasi cloak]

is there a way to make endgame not get a micromanaging f fest?

[glacial steeple]

if you prefer slow burn of research or stab

[hoary glen]

Whoever balances by buffs/ debuffs does terrible balancing

[vital plinth]

So the revive the old ways is best you think ?

With the 20 % war support

[hoary glen]

Tanks and Green air battle plan 💪 💪 💪

[quasi cloak]

all tanks sound good but prob not possible

for non german countries xD

[glacial steeple]

fair but its the only way for them to matter

[hoary glen]

What nation? How many mils?

[quasi cloak]

also garrison, uprising supression

[hoary glen]

Or just take out Raj then Russia. Do something that matters anyway

[hoary glen]

Use Cav, if you're rich the cheapest possible lt.

Also either softest law or harsh quota. Nothing in between

@glacial steeple learn USA. Easy to play. All Macro and 2 months of Micro.

[glacial steeple]

id rather do (censored)

[hoary glen]

D
M

[quasi cloak]

casey dont learn to play usa, its boring af without mods

it doesnt let u do jackshit

[arctic stream]

Help 😭 the british fleet is impossible to get past. I navy invade Norway fine but I can't do sea lion cause the British send their entire fleet to the channel, what do I do

[quasi cloak]

why get past? just paratroop

oR NUKE EM

[vital plinth]

I think resseach to get industry resseach finished faster

[arctic stream]

Because navy is fun but it's so unpredictable

[vital plinth]

I have 64% stability

[quasi cloak]

i never learned navy, and i am a happy person just the way i am rn xD

i just make convoys and nothin else

[arctic stream]

I understand navy mostly, I js get confused with what templates to use and why they all just die immediately in the English channel

[hexed meteor]

how do i win ts

[hexed meteor]

gng atleast spam submarines

😭

[arctic aspen]

Once you win the civil war as britian are there any more hoops you need to jump through to core the dominions or just go straight for the imperial conference?

[quasi cloak]

F NAVAL

i tried it

i hated it

never again

doesnt do jackshit anyway

apart from wasting fuel

i can instead focus on air and ground

which are actually useful

[hoary glen]

Build good ships. Nuke everything

[hoary glen]

Air + Naval Invade

[neat widget]

naval is doable for sure

also land based naval airpower is very useful

[quasi cloak]

you dare use logic and arguments against me?!

i yield

[hexed meteor]

gng im landlocked

i dont have convoys

[hoary glen]

I thought you're Italy. Mb

Get more guns and. Etter guns and Battleplan

[hexed meteor]

i broke thru and invaded yugoslavia at the expense of about 20 divisions and 100k casualties

somehow romania left the comminturn and then the spare divisions and lack of soviet aid thru romania made yugoslavia ez work

[hoary glen]

Losses are optional, just recruit more men

Also get ready to be back stabbed by the axis

[hexed meteor]

the british joined the axis yo

💀

[hexed meteor]

also

should i use medium tanks

im using light tank because i thought they were cheaper

[feral sonnet]

i usually do 48 base division with 60 12 width and 48 cav so like i land in a port and i snake to chongking and encirclement

how should i manage the japanese industry

[brazen glade]

I am germany, how many fronts for Poland East Front? Should I split it in 2 or is 1 good enough

Like for example 1 front focusing on danzig on the other on the rest of poland

[vital plinth]

Is there a bug or something? I’m playing Iran but not getting the reasecj speed

[hoary glen]

After 38 always use mediums. Or Inf + air

If you have Romania oil is free

[hoary glen]

2 mils support, 3 mil Arty, 1-2 train, 1 Truck rest gun. After China or Jan 1938 Build 1 - 2 railway guns if sp ignore and build gun 2, support and Arty until 1940 fighter then go down to 20 on guns and go up to 60-80 on fighter as well as 20 on casnav

[feral sonnet]

i do that but the usa heavy fighter will slaughter me so should i do heavy or small fighters

[feral sonnet]

i meant the construction not the ic

also should i do like only light cruiser or also torpedo cruiser

[glossy surge]

Playing as UK in 1939, Germany has much stronger infantry than me - Their base soft attack is 113 vs my 79 , hard attack is 18 vs 15, and their organisation is around 69 vs my 57. I don't "game" the division templates much so my Inf has 3x3 Inf and support companies of AA, Engineers and Artillery. What do their templates look like? Why are they so much stronger?

[feral sonnet]

faster doctrines,they do more research on military things,terrain and focus ig like maybe they do stosstrupen

[glossy surge]

Ahhh, thanks. I haven't done much doctrine and haven't much army experience points.

[feral sonnet]

they can grind xp in spain with volunteers so they will get much more xp

[true steppe]

Alguien me ayuda no se jugar bien

Para multijugador

[neat widget]

US does heavy fighters because they get like a 20% cost reduction on them

[candid burrow]

Out of the three options for Trotsky as Mexico which ones will make him your leader later? Do I have to grant asylum or can I just invite him to work for the government cause he's a solid military leader.

[keen hemlock]

does anyone know why i dont control this state? i asked for control from germany but i didnt get the achivment

okay so now its saying i lost one of my starting states but i never did?

i never lost bessarabia

[marble saddle]

do you get autonomy progress from building in your overlord?

[pliant condor]

the most significant difference is the gun

having better gun(which you should have 39 gun by 1939) give you +50% soft attack

also you should have way more modifiers than the ai

[pulsar tree]

Please recommend interesting countries with a large number of core territories

[foggy steppe]

is mass assault still good?

[oak jasper]

Admittedly I'm new, but I've never seen anybody say mass assault was good. All I've seen is "grand battleplan or superior firepower".

[neat widget]

mass assault was good pre-1.17

[oak jasper]

And this is seriously bugging me. I've been getting a trickle of negative war support from "enemy bombing" for a long time now.

I have no alerts on the right, and I don't see a single yellow or red airzone anywhere on the globe. Is there any way to figure out where this is coming from?

[neat widget]

grand battleplan is used for general offensive guilds, superior firepower is used for defensive builds where you want org recovery essentially

You could be bombed in a green zone

[gilded herald]

You have insomnia too?

Hiya

[neat widget]

ye

[mystic willow]

left or right

[light knoll]

right

[prisma mica]

Hi

I have been having trouble holding back the germans as romanov poland

I am running 9 inf + recon which I know isn't great but I can't seem to get enough industry to field tanks

Is there a better way to avoid immediately capituating

[light knoll]

do you have anti air and support artillery?

what are your doctrines?

did you core Lithuania and latvia?

you're not supposed to do tanks so that's not the issue

[neat widget]

i mean they could go communist

the democratic left path isn't good at all though

[prisma mica]

Uhh no

[light knoll]

yea that's the issue

get rid of recon

[prisma mica]

I was struggling to get enough guns so I figured I should focus on that first

[light knoll]

add support arty and aa

[prisma mica]

Alr

[light knoll]

aa is essential almost always

without it you just die to cas

[prisma mica]

Should I keep producing planes or devote it to AA

I was trying to build a bit of an air force

[light knoll]

if you have the industry to beat the German airforce then you can do planes instead of aa

[prisma mica]

Oh yeah then I’ll do AA

I just don’t have the time to grow industry

Is there any way to increase the hardness or armor of my divisions so they don’t get melted

Would an AT be a good investment

[light knoll]

no

[prisma mica]

Since their light tanks seem to be piercing a lot of my lines

[light knoll]

its useless in single player

aa is enough to pierce ai tanks

[prisma mica]

Besides the 9 and support AA support art do I need an offense template

Or just hold def

[light knoll]

not really for now

you can make mountaineers

for offence

or rangers

[prisma mica]

Is there a way to take Yugoslavia because I have the focus but it’s guaranteed by Romania who’s guaranteed by France

Before Germany attacks

[light knoll]

that won't pull france into the war

only if france guarantee yugo directly

if they guarantee someone who guarantee them, then don't get called in

[prisma mica]

Good to know, thanks

I appreciate your help

[hoary glen]

You build small 1940 Fighter. You get like 20k by 1941. You down trade the Allied air over a favourable zone like Indochina. Just reduce what they have for DDay. If they don't contest Air start going more on CAS and then start killing Raj.

[hoary glen]

You can civ greed a little. I would build docks until China war then mils. Or just mils is fine too. Just remember to build a land facility

[glacial steeple]

in the state left of tokyo

cuz it has a a thingy

[arctic stream]

When im doing operation sea lion as germany, whats the best port to try get and what sea tile should I try get navy supremacy in?

[unborn gate]

attack Portsmouth from any french port you just need supremacy in British channel

use air force because you don't have better ships

[arctic stream]

I js get pinned by heaps of UK troops by the time they land so they can't even attack portsmoutht then I get shived into the sea

[pearl imp]

Yo so i became fachiest as brittan yet i justify war goal on anyone it says world tension needs to be at 100 percent. Could someone guide me?

[mild nexus]

Hey! I’m just starting the game!
Would somebody give me a hand and teach me the game ?
Thanks 🙂

[pearl imp]

Ig i could i am also new but i can give you the basics ig

[mild nexus]

I haven’t launched a game yet so I guess you can teach me some stuff aha

[pearl imp]

vc?

[mild nexus]

yup go for it

[uncut narwhal]

your focus tree slowly makes that trait go away

[tardy mesa]

why cant i move my navy

[uncut narwhal]

because its homebase is set in brest

activate dynamic homebase

[tardy mesa]

oh yeah just realised

thanks

if i naval invade gibraltar will i be able to leave the mediterranean again

also how do i win against the uk i already got 500 fighters sitting on the english channel but i only have 5% dominance and my navy cant beat the english navy

[feral sonnet]

more plane

paradrop dover ig

[dusty ember]

hello, we are playing in multiplayer with 3 people and some mods (raod to 56) but sadly we experience that one player keeps gettin g desynchs. Is there a mod/way to make the game more stable?

[dusty sandal]

rehost the game
if it doesn't work and they still desynch, the save's toast and you won't be able to play with them on that save anymore

avoid hotjoins, swapping countries over and over again in lobby, different mods (UI and such), different language settings and mods not really made for MP to reduce the chance of breaking a save like this

[dusty ember]

thx. can the number of armies or splitted nations be a problem too?

are any of theese mods very problematic?

[dusty sandal]

that just lags the game down

[dusty ember]

so that lag cannot lead to desynch?

[dusty sandal]

no

[sour wadi]

can you get bycicle divisions as facist britain?

[dusty sandal]

only japan, netherlands, hungary and belgium can get bikes iirc

[sour wadi]

is there any way i can get the bycicle divisions from belgium?

cuz ik u can sometimes nab divisions from other countrys

if i war belgium

puppet them

can i use their divisions?

and in that case

can i get this as facist britain

[merry temple]

Heya, I have a question. How should I best distribute the fleet? How many task forces?

[sour wadi]

honestly just deathstack youf leet

1 task force that has your screening ships and your big ships. and multiple smaller seperate fleets that are on patrol

have that deathstack on strike force

[merry temple]

But should I separete subs from it? And would it cover several seas or it wouldn't?

[sour wadi]

seperate subs, have em in groups of 15

and it would cover several sea zones

essentially the patrol ships pick up where enemy ships are in a sea zone while the deathstack stays in port

if a fleet is detected, and the strikeforce is active in that zone. it leaves port and attacks the detected ships

it can cover multiple seazones with one taskforce on deathstack

[merry temple]

Got it, thanks

[sour wadi]

it also saves alotta fuel cuz the majourity of your navy is in port

[dusty sandal]

deathstack of everything but submarines on strike force
small task force x the number of regions you want them to patrol. These task forces are there o project the supremacy, ideally use a single crappy heavy cruiser you start with, a few crappy light cruisers you start with or about 10 crappy destroyers

[sour wadi]

i usually like to make dedicated patrol light cruisers

they work really well

[dusty sandal]

for uk for example, you can use 3 old heay cruisers on patrol in channel, and both sides of the UK, a single fleet at london on strike force

[sour wadi]

abit of armour just incase. have 2 of em in a task force, and have as many of thoose taskforces on reigons you want to patrol

[dusty sandal]

you mean spotters ?

[sour wadi]

ye

sorry i aint good w terms

[dusty sandal]

these aren't there for supremacy, you send them on never engage orders (they can't fight, they aren't made for it)

they're not that useful anymroe either tbf

[sour wadi]

they give supremacy?

[dusty sandal]

not if set on never engage

[cold bloom]

Im confused, I was playing a game of Germany a few days ago and I got to do Anschluss in 1936 when it said I needed 23x Austria's army? Is it possible Austria's divisions arent fully equipped early game and so it doesnt count them in the comparison?

[dusty sandal]

there is a classic rush anchuluss for germany where you put 20 factories on guns 1 and you get anchuluss in mid 36

[cold bloom]

I dont get why it works, is it because Austria starts with underequipped units? 23 times sounds like I will need an insane amount even if their army is pretty small

[light knoll]

pretty sure they aren't fully equipped at the start yes

[dusty sandal]

it's probably because austria AI modifies its templates constantly and has huge prodction debuffs

[light knoll]

can Austria even change their templates

[dusty sandal]

oh yeah forgot they have the restriction

dunno if it lock them or not

[brazen glade]

what is better then four year plan or economic growth?

[dusty sandal]

are you going for historical path ?

[brazen glade]

just whatever it better

[dusty sandal]

depends

historical path with loads of conquest and war against allies : MEFO is absolutely busted
ahistorical path with fewer conquest ? MEfo will kill you

[brazen glade]

I spam cav units and it also works

[dusty sandal]

why cav

just spam inf

[brazen glade]

500k manpower is easier

[dusty sandal]

less equipment

[dusty sandal]

cav uses the exact same amount of manpower than inf does, except cav cost more guns

meaning that you need more guns for the same goal

[brazen glade]

you also need like 400k guns dont u

[brazen glade]

so if i am going to war with everyone 4 year plan is best?

[dusty sandal]

no, you need a number of fully equipped divisions

it is a ratio between your army and austria's
you need x times more than theirs divs, and only fully equipped divs counts

[austere roost]

PEG is a strict upgrade over 4yp, this has been known since day 1 of gotterdamureng

[brazen glade]

but i can only make 21 inf divisons and i can make 42 cav

[austere roost]

4yp is for rp

[brazen glade]

is it still bad though? like will I be okay with it

[austere roost]

No it's not but peg is simply better than 4yp

4yp is okay

You will need to be able to cap Uk or ussr

[brazen glade]

I can do that

[dusty sandal]

you need to create a new division to spam out
use a single infantry bataillion, spam it out

[dusty sandal]

that's simply not true
only in vanilla MP or ahist playthrough is PEG better simply for the fact you can't complete autarky focus

MEFO is an absolute powercreep that allows you to roll anything as long as you read what the focus do and don't waste IC on useless equipment/civilian factories

Granted, PEG is easier to deal with and more beginner-friendly, but it's absolutely not better than MEFO until 1942-3 which, by then, the game is supposed to be basically over

[austere roost]

First of all when you achieve autarky you already won the game

Second of all we ran the numbers and peg just gives you more buffs

It's really not complicated

[dusty sandal]

500 factories by 1940 is something PEG simply cannot hope to reach

[austere roost]

You definitely can by just conquering everything

How are you getting 500 by just building in Germany?

What about cap? What about factory output?

These are the things that matter

[dusty sandal]

they do matter but PEG only lets you get those late, unless a mod changes the requirements for it

[scenic nacelle]

I got it before shortly after France?

Germany is just OP anyways

[dusty sandal]

you get it with a single collab on france and regular late 1939 war

[scenic nacelle]

Actually I may have been using a mod for this one

[dusty sandal]

Autarky can be achieved as soon as 1938 btw

[scenic nacelle]

I don’t think sheep’s mod messes with autarky?

[dusty sandal]

you need austria, yougoslavia, netherlands, romania, france, norway and the sweden ressource rights
it goes even faster if you rush netherlands early and take resource rights in their colonies, you don't even need norway

[austere roost]

Yeah and you have won the game at that point

Which path lets you achieve that more easily and faster?

[dusty sandal]

by the time you get down to PEG buffs you do too

[austere roost]

Peg pretty much wins by 1939

[dusty sandal]

PEG doesn't do anything by then that MEFO doesn't ...

except if you build civs on mefo which, I mean, why would you do that

[austere roost]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/s/nxoKYdFwXj

[scenic nacelle]

Reddit 😭

[dusty sandal]

this thread forget sthe inner circle and goering's buffs ... which are locked if you don't go MEFO

[austere roost]

You can get inner circle with peg

And goerring is a meme

[dusty sandal]

this also completely forgets the build speed for mils which is insane on MEFO and doesn't do the comparison of factories
sure, having 5% more cap is good ? but having 50 less factories doesn't make it worth more

[dusty sandal]

the 10% cap isn't
todt is good early on, speer is fine all around but not the best, goering is the only real pick for late inner circle in eco path

this analysis also completely voids the fact you need certain late game techs to complete the focus btw

[austere roost]

Speer gives factory output and Goering only gives enough to make 4yp and peg have the same cap

[dusty sandal]

output is way inferior to production cap

iirc, it takes 24% output to gain as much buff as 10% cap but lemme check that

[austere roost]

Goering only gives you enough cap to have the same cap as peg

But then you can get Speer so you get twice the amount of factory output in total

[dusty sandal]

20% output is = 12% cap (when starting on 10% efficiency for the cap), it take 40 days for a single production cap % to produce more than 2% factory output)
if you want to test the math https://apichaikub.github.io/hoi4-production-calculator/

[rotund solar]

Has there been an update to the democracy russia civil war because i just cant seem to win anymore

[wind lotus]

I got a friend asking for tank templates but he doesn't have no step back. Does anyone knows if the pinned template still work?

[light knoll]

yes

well idk about amtracs but they can use this

you can still make spgs without no step back, its something you can research, a little icon on the tank research

[wind lotus]

Alright, thanks a lot

[hoary glen]

Torp DDs and light Cruisers

[obsidian token]

why does it say this for every country, that it can't join a faction?

[tight vector]

Should i ever use armored cars?

like as a cheap space marine

[scenic nacelle]

No

[zenith zephyr]

<@&846894118219022336> ^^^^

[keen hemlock]

only thing they are good for is garrison iirc

[tight vector]

what shall i use as a defence?

or should I try to offense?

because I know the invasion is coming

[light knoll]

get Austria Hungary formed first

asap