ask-for-help-here

[tropic seal]

what do i swap them out for

[wild rune]

Its better than the one I referenced

[tropic seal]

ah aight

i dont have 3 of the 5 support companies

any suggestions on replacements?

[glacial steeple]

arty, regular engis

[tropic seal]

aight

and the flame tanks?

[glacial steeple]

i assume you dont have ranger recon either then?

[lament quail]

what is an IC

[glacial steeple]

it is NOT cav recon

idk like AA

[tropic seal]

only the defaults

dont have ranger

ok

[glacial steeple]

industrial capacity

[glacial steeple]

replace with LT recon

it gives break

just copy supports of the no projects

[wild rune]

Erm its called armored recon

Get it right

[tropic seal]

ok

that means ihave to make light tankss right

[wild rune]

Yuh

[tropic seal]

can i afford to run this only or do i still need some worse holding divs

i dont have a lot of mp to spare

[glacial steeple]

you have a holder template above

go up on conscription law

desperate defense subdoctrine too

[tropic seal]

what ratio do i produce the holders and the good div?

[glacial steeple]

since its special forces its easy

as many pushing units as you can rest holders

[tropic seal]

ok

which army chief of staff is most important

def offense or org

[wild rune]

Always army offense

[tropic seal]

ok

[wild rune]

Although you want to train your own eventually

[lament quail]

so which of these is the best option for the major I should suck up to

[wild rune]

Yes

And show which air template your using

[lament quail]

context #1

[tropic seal]

no dlc cant change template

[lament quail]

context #2

[wild rune]

Ok

[tropic seal]

do you have experience with autralian focus tree

im kinda lost with it

[wild rune]

I feel like its kind of obvious?

The czech entente

[wild rune]

No

@glacial steeple probably does tho

[lament quail]

are the british that weak without their dominions

(also im nonaligned so ideology isnt that important)

[lament quail]

(also also the british are fascist)

[tropic seal]

aight

[wild rune]

Yeah

[wild rune]

Unless you are planning for a lot of forced expansion don't join the british

[lament quail]

I plan to take the baltic coast and Lithuania+Estonia, puppet Karelia and the Sami in Murmansk, and maybe more

also the czech entente borders Russia in Galicia

[tight vector]

Is this good (late game)

[glacial steeple]

no controversial/political figures please #server-rules

[lament quail]

what if I am planning to annex the baltic sea coast, puppet Karelia and the Sami in Murmansk at the least

[tropic seal]

Why not mission type tactics if ill be running a lot of special forces? is it for the mp?

[wild rune]

@glacial steeple wtf is up with people and 30w

[wild rune]

Yes it is for manpower

[glacial steeple]

idk looks natural ig

[tropic seal]

I'd also swap this ranger recon wiht armored recon right since i dont have rangers

[tropic seal]

do you have any experience with australia's focus tree?

[wild rune]

Uhh if you have the ic for it then yeah

[tropic seal]

im playing aus

i probably dont have the ic

my industry is cooked

do i use normal recon then?

[wild rune]

I would recommend putting an extra infantry in there

To make it 18w

[tropic seal]

aaight

[wild rune]

No recon then

[glacial steeple]

i mostly play new zealand if im there but a bit

[tropic seal]

so just art and aa in the hold div?

thats it?

[wild rune]

Yeah

[tropic seal]

is the play just to build industry until japan declares

[wild rune]

The play is to build civs til 38

As iirc japan declares in 42

[glacial steeple]

the play is to have an army ready by war

and probably play ahist because historical gameplay isnt that fun for oceania imo

[tropic seal]

ah aight

[tropic seal]

oh

uh

[glacial steeple]

but up to you

[tropic seal]

ok

[tropic seal]

yeah or really really late 41

i can go concentrated industry as aus right

since i wont really be getting bombed that much

[glacial steeple]

conc is always good

[wild rune]

😭

[wild rune]

Those who are literally Dankus as finland

[tropic seal]

i thought as like germany you were meant to go dispersed

or something

[wild rune]

Nah

[tropic seal]

what army focus should i startw ith as aus

im doen with all the industry ones that i can do until world tension goes up

or should i do this before army

nvm the milita training tree looks nice

[glacial steeple]

do industry and air tree

those are good

air gives you engine 3 on researching basic medium airframe

[tropic seal]

oh ok

[glacial steeple]

then just research improved/advanced medium and youll have decent long range planes though they trade worse in terms of factory output itll be fine against ai

[tropic seal]

i wont get that would I

since i dont have dlc for editing plane templates

[glacial steeple]

ah then ignore the air tree

[tropic seal]

aight

should i still inves tin building planes and cas

?

[glacial steeple]

if you want

you dont have industry for more than like 1 thing

[tropic seal]

true

i have like 15 civs and its 1937

[lament quail]

I want to set up a puppet Karelia and Sami state at least, which may be hampered by the Czech Entente being a democratic faction. Also, the Czech entente borders Russia through Romania. Would this help me or hurt me more?

[tropic seal]

What army doctrines? im going desperate defense for operations

but should i be using mission type tactics instead?

im not sure

[glacial steeple]

no

look at the stats

its not even useful to you

[tropic seal]

ah fair

what about for the other 3 trees?

why is the sapanish civil war starting in 1938 wth

this is historical ai

[tropic seal]

Is assault infantry good

[upbeat arrow]

is there a way to raise facism to 30% for US beside the advisor?

[tropic seal]

i have no idea what to go for artillery and support though

[upbeat arrow]

i usually do field engineering, good boosts to engineer company, and almost everything will have an engineer company, but it really depends on your playstyle and planned fronts.

[tropic seal]

oh ok

is assault infantry good

[upbeat arrow]

its the US default, ive never changed it

[tropic seal]

ah

aight

[pulsar beacon]

interwar or 1934 heavies for converting into heavy tds later on?

[upbeat arrow]

large unit tactics looks appealing aswell

[pulsar beacon]

iirc its mp meta too

[upbeat arrow]

is it worth switching the free doctrine in SP?

[lament quail]

What do you mean by "forced expansion"

[simple lynx]

everytime i try to play with friend it says connection timed out

how to fix?

[tropic seal]

im playing aus i wont be fielding many divs

no mp

how do i get rid of great depresssion debuf as aus

oh nvm found it

aw hell naw its so far down

[neat widget]

1934 heavies are typically used, but you can just use interwar if you wish

[upbeat arrow]

im using a 35 day focus mod for the usa lol

no depression, mid 37

[tropic seal]

oh

dangg

[upbeat arrow]

but im also trying to do the global hegemony tree without imciting a civil war in non historical sp

[tropic seal]

is there any way to allow myself

to build in these zones

[upbeat arrow]

doesnt look like it

[tropic seal]

aw man allat infra for nothing

[upbeat arrow]

bummer

[tropic seal]

whats the best fighter doctrine

[upbeat arrow]

probably airspace dominance, but i wouldnt worry about replacing what you have until you have doctrines for other equipment like tac bombers if you have them, if you only have fighters is the only way id do that first though

[tropic seal]

i had no default doctrine

ah aight

[upbeat arrow]

oh dang

[neat widget]

airspace dominance but medium range escort is better if you have larger air zones

[tropic seal]

oh ok

[neat widget]

but I myself have little idea on these air doctrines

[upbeat arrow]

im literally just alt tabbing to look at them myself because i dont know either

[lament quail]

wym by "forced expansion"

[tropic seal]

Also what happend to german ai?

In the games ive played

they cant even push past minsk

like the soviet ai never comes even close to capping

even without an allied d-day

[upbeat arrow]

idk, mine has been on fire lately, last game japan and german split what was left of the soviets after they splintered into the russian federation

[tropic seal]

oh dang

[lament quail]

r56?

[upbeat arrow]

my german ai regularly goes well past stalingrad, no vanilla

[lament quail]

but how does ussr split into russian federation in vanilla

[upbeat arrow]

turn off historical focus's

[lament quail]

do you mean after the russian civil war where the constituent states break off?

but how did the provisional russian govt flip democratic

[upbeat arrow]

yeah, after the civil war, the civil war happened like as the japanese shogonate and germany invaded them i think

[lament quail]

ah

[upbeat arrow]

it was hilarious timing

[lament quail]

so how did you end up with a democratic russia?

(before you ended up with no russia at all)

you mentioned a russian federation

[vital plinth]

What’s a ship hull ?

Is that the ship name basic supmarine ?

[upbeat arrow]

because the civil war started after the axis decleration, it was a seperate state, idk why they didnt go after other russia too

[lament quail]

ah

i see

so which should I go for(brits are fascist)

context #1

context #2

[upbeat arrow]

i want to say this is it, but i cant read the bright red, it also might be a different country from another playthrough, isk

[vital plinth]

Damm 1,5 half year to build capital ship damm il first finish in 1943

[tropic seal]

does infra level do anything for factories?

or just troop movment

and logistics

[upbeat arrow]

high infra states might build factories slightly faster but im not sure

[lament quail]

how do I get women in the workforce

[balmy dawn]

Whats the quickest way to lower autonomy in a subject?

[lament quail]

to offset the -3.00% recruitable population

[lament quail]

lendlease

[lament quail]

how do I get women in the workforce

[balmy dawn]

?? Sending? Or Receiving?

[lament quail]

send

receiving lendlease RAISES your puppet's autonomy

[lament quail]

recommended to send them a bunch of convoys

if you have them, of course

[balmy dawn]

I Assume that more expensive things affect Autonomy more than cheap things?

I grabbed some Armored Cars to send and they're almost worthless

[lament quail]

I mean yeah sure

[vital geode]

Yes

Old things bad for autonomy

[lament quail]

oh i didnt know this?

[vital geode]

Up to date stuff good

[lament quail]

but arent convoys optimal?

[vital geode]

Convoys most optimal

[balmy dawn]

I have none to send, lol

[vital geode]

Because they cost dockyard output i assume

[vital plinth]

I don’t understand when to puppet when you annex I’m facist Greece just got Soviet Union a guide said to do coropetive goverment but I’m not getting enough factories or ressouces it’s not much ?

[vital geode]

Collab governments?

Collab governments are alright

But 100% compliance is better

[leaden jay]

I just build forts everywhere

[austere roost]

the ones after pc are optional, depends on what you really want. Tankograd is nice cuz if you follow its instructions you get 10 free mils. You also only need one of the soviet artillery, pc of mortar, or tankograd to unlock mio merging focus

[upbeat arrow]

what should i do from here?

[vital geode]

36 width marines

Slap some more support companies. Field hospitals, support arty, engineers, support aa, and one of your choice

[upbeat arrow]

dont have those researched yet, but kinda like this?

[vital plinth]

Should I annex Soviet ?

I had built 1 time collab goverment and get 30% from puppet or should I go for annex instead?

[vital geode]

You wont be able to garrison that as latvia

Or is it someone else playing latvia

[vital plinth]

Im Byzantine

[tropic seal]

What DLC is the good Soviet focus tree gated beujd

Behind

[vital geode]

Oh, do what you want

[tropic seal]

Is it nsb

[vital plinth]

I have Italia Turkey Greece bulges Romania as core

I just won over Soviet idk if to puppet or annex a guide said to build collab goverment so I have 30% but

Idk is annex better ?

[lament quail]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-movie-minecraft-a-minecraft-movie-jack-black-i-am-steve-gif-13691645871022200802

I... am Latvia

[dry otter]

Hows this for a design?

[neat widget]

Not a bad design, but for Germany use Henschel for design

[dry otter]

Alright

[vital plinth]

@neat widget Can you help me with something?

[neat widget]

Yeah?

[dry otter]

Thank you

[neat widget]

It can also be an spg btw

[tropic seal]

Does anyone have a guide to playing the soviet union

is the focus tree locked behind a dlc

?

[vital plinth]

Im playing Byzantine have lot of lands with Italy , Turkey Greece and Bulgaria and yokoslavia and Romania. I just won over Soviet I had prepared a collab goverment a guide mentioned but I only made one so I have 30% compliance if puppet

Should I puppet or keep as annex ?

I’m I’m in 1942

I don’t know what’s better

[dry otter]

Whats a good flame tank design?

[dry otter]

Make alot of troops is the main goal behind the Soviets so you can stop the German advance

Theres also a line you should station your troops behind so they get good defence buffs

[tropic seal]

Ah aight

[neat widget]

puppet is fine, you can annex later and still get compliance

annex when you're ready

[vital plinth]

Not annex now ?

Won’t I have to start from 1% if I annex later ?

In compliance

[neat widget]

No, you'd get 30%

[dry otter]

But you should fight the Finnish in 1939, around November, and puppet them, dont call them into the German war because then the Germans can invade through Norway

[neat widget]

You can totally annex them now if that's your wish btw

Do you have all the Soviet Union btw

[vital plinth]

Most of it 30% is to Germany but I have most of it

[vital plinth]

Idk what is best first game so trying to learn 🙂

[tropic seal]

Ah aight

[vital plinth]

Il annex later then if I get 30% it’s faster no ? Then annex now and build up compliance?

[tropic seal]

How do I puppet a nation

[dry otter]

Ive made that mistake before and its not fun, make cheep infantry units after the finnish war, and also always have alot of factories on guns. Dont make a airforce, as the Soviets its complicated if youre new, just make towed AA

[dry otter]

After a war you get a peace deal if all major nations of that alliance you are at war with have capitulated, you then get to decide whether you annex or puppet them. Also when puppeting a country, make sure to take their resource rights and war reperations

[tropic seal]

oh aight

[tropic seal]

how is the soviet airforce any different from like germany?

[dry otter]

The soviet airforce, and army has alot of debuffs at the start, you typically get rid of them by doing focuses in your focus tree, considering youre new though, id only focus on the industrial, diplomatic, and ground army focuses

[tropic seal]

i heard that if playing as the soviets you need to rush through the purge focus tree

how do I do that without deleting all my generals

[dry otter]

You kinda just have to hope

[neat widget]

are you going to war with germany? because you can feed the lands to a soviet puppet and still get 30% collaboration on there if you annex them

but yeah i'd say it depends on your manpower levels

[tropic seal]

dang 😭

[dry otter]

You also have some times to wait on certain focuses, when waiting for those to unlock, you can do your other focuses

[tropic seal]

ok

[dry otter]

Id say to do your industrial one as a main important one

[tropic seal]

so prioritise finishing hte purge?

[dry otter]

Yes, focus on finishing your purge tree first

Also id say as a little tip, build civs till late 1937, to early 1938, then only mils

[tropic seal]

ok

[vital plinth]

I have 2mio man power without Soviet

[vital plinth]

Not yet maybe later

[dry otter]

Any other questions?

[neat widget]

Yeah then you can annex then right now

[vital plinth]

You think puppet them now for cheap trade and get my boost in free trade so I can resseach faster and catch up to the other big powers ?

[tropic seal]

should I just make a bunhca trash holding divs like this but with no recon and spam tanks? or should i make good pushing divs too

these hold very well but like they cant push at all

[dry otter]

focus on making trash holding divs for now, after you have a decent amount of those and your lines look sturdy, you can focus on making better pushing divs

Maybe make some med tanks

Is this a good flame tank design?

[tropic seal]

What's teh best medium tank and flame tank templates

[austere roost]

No it's horrible

Flame tanks give zero stats, they only give a fixed terrain buff so the ideal flame tank is the cheapest flame tank

[tropic seal]

can i not get rid of these??

[bronze fossil]

Does anyone know if you can use recon planes for putting your navy on strike force?

[bronze fossil]

I’d just put them on cities or anywhere that needs to be guarded

[tropic seal]

does anyone have a template for medium tanks

how does a spy network and intelligence agency work

ive just been ignoring them pretty much in my past playthroughs

what are the best soviet army spirits

[austere roost]

+atk for the first one

Other spirits depend on what doctrine you choose

[loud robin]

https://tenor.com/view/check-pin-discord-check-pin-gif-1835998338632614419

[queen agate]

Anyone know how you complete the secret ahievement?

[tropic seal]

grand battleplan?

[loud robin]

why is only one task force in the region and why does it say it's inaccessible for the rest

[queen agate]

the base port is in Wilhelmshaven

change it to something closer

[loud robin]

how do i change it?

[tropic seal]

What are these tanks? SPGs?

[queen agate]

top left

[loud robin]

use these they are also in the pin

[tropic seal]

are these better?

and i cant find a design for medium tanks in the pins

maybe im just blind

what MIO traits are the best

[loud robin]

they are under army templates

[loud robin]

#ask-for-help-here message

here for more easier access

[tropic seal]

thanks

how do i do the MIO

this is hella confusing

[loud robin]

i don't have that dlc so you are out of luck from me

[tropic seal]

ouch

maybe ill just turn it off

[loud robin]

from my knowledge grab shit that is meta like breakthrough, cheaper, light attack and range for planes

[tropic seal]

ah

aight

ive heard that its like better to make a bunch of empty chasis

then convert them?

[loud robin]

thank you

[tropic seal]

yeah thank you to whoever told me to avoid the soviet airforce as a new player

[loud robin]

if you are playing like you will die instantly. It's the best way but you do not even need to be that close of meta

[tropic seal]

oh ok

[wild rune]

were you not told to make good pushing divisions?

you can have two seperate division templates

[loud robin]

just don't chnage your template every year or your production will fail

[wild rune]

the entire army does not need to be one template

[vital plinth]

Is 30 combat width good for tank ?

[tropic seal]

oh nono i was just asking if i actually needed pushing divs

[tropic seal]

apparently 36w is meta

[wild rune]

yes

[tropic seal]

ok

[wild rune]

8/10s are good

10/8s are good

9/9s are good

[vital plinth]

?

[wild rune]

any combination that adds up to 36w is good of tanks and mech

[tropic seal]

is this a good defensive template? im planning on just throwing out hudnreds of these to stop the germans

[wild rune]

in my opinion remove engineers

too costly

[peak thistle]

why am i not getting civs for exports?

[stuck garnet]

Nah uh

It worth

[wild rune]

it depends

[wild rune]

are you going to be pushing into the germans or holding a fallback line?

[tropic seal]

probbaly holding for the first year or something?

[wild rune]

is this single player

[tropic seal]

i dont knwo where to hold though

[wild rune]

in this case having engineers is good

as it builds entrenchment

[vital plinth]

Yeah

[tropic seal]

at what point do i stop purging and start working on infrastructure

[wild rune]

no need for that many tds imo

more SPGs would be better for SP

[wild rune]

never

[tropic seal]

uh

what

[wild rune]

you want to remove stalins political thingamajig as fast as possible

then go further into the five year plan

[tropic seal]

i meant like

at what point does it get removed

[wild rune]

i forget

just continue on

[tropic seal]

aight

[wild rune]

it might be the Bloc

iirc

[tropic seal]

ok

[wild rune]

Hold the stalin line into latvia

trust

[queen agate]

Where do I check how much manpower I need to fulfill?

[tropic seal]

where is the stalin line

wheres the best place to hold against germany

[wild rune]

@neat widget where

[wild rune]

im loading hoi4 to give a screenshot

[tropic seal]

thanks

[austere roost]

The rivers from riga to stalino

With Smolensk and Kiev added in

[gray geode]

Anyone down to help me learn the game I have 1hour played and am having problems learning more

[tropic seal]

so do i still sack some major cities like minsk

[tropic seal]

aight, thanks

[wild rune]

although extend the fallback line through Dnipropetrovsk and also hold kiev

[tropic seal]

oh ok

[wild rune]

also hold the supply hub in the tile to the right of Bobruysk

[tropic seal]

aw man these purges hurt

[austere roost]

so you should try to first repeal germany from that line, then to try repeal germany from the molotov borders, and then to be so strong with your ic that hitler won't even dec on you and you have to dec on hungary to start ww2

[tropic seal]

do i just sack poland and the baltics then

[tropic seal]

lol what

[dry otter]

go mass mob for soviets

[tropic seal]

ok

[austere roost]

no

[wild rune]

you can send ultimatums to the baltics

[austere roost]

wtf

[tropic seal]

what subdoctrines

[tropic seal]

like but do i hold them

[austere roost]

mass assault sucks now

[wild rune]

wrong

[austere roost]

gbp is the best while sf is second best

other two are meme doctrines

[wild rune]

you hold the line i sent

you hold riga

[austere roost]

do not pick that focus

[wild rune]

you lose all of lithuania

[dry otter]

No, its the best doctrine for the soviets? Atleast in my past playthroughs its given me the best value

[austere roost]

manually dec on them once you get the claims

you get the claims when you sign molotov

[tropic seal]

whats the diff

oh

[austere roost]

ultimatums waste you a 70 day focus and 225 pp

[dry otter]

Youre going to be mobolising alot of men as the Soviets so you should just go for the one which correlates with the benefits for that

[wild rune]

it gives an officer corps spirit that gives 10% health

[austere roost]

while decing on them manually costs around 30 pp in total

[tropic seal]

man these purges REALLY hurt

[austere roost]

are you serious? ma is a meme doctrine since ncns doctrine remake since day 1

[vital plinth]

Whats TDS ?

[wild rune]

GrandBattle Plan or Superior Firepower as soviets is best

[austere roost]

immediately ppl figured out that gbp and sf are the better two and mw and ma are jokes

[wild rune]

Tank Destroyers

[wild rune]

true

[austere roost]

that's why you have the decisions to reduce paranoia

[vital plinth]

Oh no it’s medium tanks and arttly tanks

[wild rune]

ok

[wild rune]

thats fine

[tropic seal]

yes but the focus great purges hurt too

[vital plinth]

I don’t have flame tanks so this is best I can get

In my dlc

[austere roost]

no they don't, they reduce paranoia

[tropic seal]

oh

im blind then

[austere roost]

don't do the ones on the left and central side of stalin's path

only do the right side which is the actual purge

left and central are useless focuses

[tropic seal]

oops

i did them

am i cooked

[austere roost]

no but you just wasted focuses

next time don't do them

[tropic seal]

ah aight

kk

i saw they give some buffs though

are the buffs just not worth it

[austere roost]

Yes they're not worth it when other focuses give you more relevant buffs

Also one of those left side focuses give you -5 stab and -5 WS which is like wtf

[tropic seal]

but this happened after i did the focus

[civic hare]

how good is invading netherlands in 1936

[austere roost]

yeah what do you think a purge is

you purge people

[tropic seal]

ow

aight

is this 'cowed by stalin' trait perm

[austere roost]

it's nice, it gives you indonesia and curacao which gives you oil and rubber

[tropic seal]

cuz tha tmeans i need to replace all my generals right

that get the trait

[wild rune]

no

[austere roost]

you know, you can search for these in game

[wild rune]

you get rid of cowed by stalin

[tropic seal]

oh

[tropic seal]

ahh what

i thought you could only search using hte names of the focuses

oops

[civic hare]

I saw someoen say something about puppeting indo is it better to annex it or puppet?

[tropic seal]

what do i do after doing the purge path?

[queen agate]

Anyone know?

[tropic seal]

do i go PCDI or five year plan

[austere roost]

you can puppet if you want exploit their manpower

[austere roost]

just follow a beginners guide to ussr

[civic hare]

what do you think is better overall

[tropic seal]

aight

[austere roost]

puppeting if you need a lot of manpower

[civic hare]

puppetting could be good since it may make it a bit easier to defend it

[pulsar beacon]

probably 3rd five year plan it gives nice bonuses

[tropic seal]

alright

[pulsar beacon]

after that i usually did millitary focuses like tankograd

it worked out really well for me

[civic hare]

typically when people do an early netherlands invasion is there anything else or do they just play it normally

[tropic seal]

is this a good inf pushing template

where do I unlock flame tanks btw

do i have to research it

[peak thistle]

do line art

[tropic seal]

do i replace the far right inf with line art?

also is the best flame tank template just a falmethrower

with like the crappiest of everything else

which path is better

[austere roost]

That's why you should watch a guide because it will tell you which

[tropic seal]

ah aight

bittersteel's one is good right

[peak thistle]

left

[tropic seal]

ok

[vital geode]

Foreign experts give better production stats

While national specialists i believe somewhat improve your mios

[civic hare]

could I just attack beligum and france in 1937 before the UK allies them (and annex em?)

[vital geode]

Or you wing it

[vital geode]

Nothing is stopping you

[austere roost]

no no no right is better

take the foreign experts

[vital geode]

Except your skill and the resources available

[civic hare]

when does uk ally france

[vital geode]

38?

[austere roost]

and pick the american decisions once you finish that focus

[civic hare]

well I took netherlands early soo

[vital geode]

Early 38 or late 37

[austere roost]

if anyone tells you to take national experts then they're trolling

[vital geode]

I honestly never see the need to do this

[civic hare]

you think I could do well invading them

[civic hare]

first time I tried this strat

[vital geode]

Especially in the past when it would kill your MEFO bills

[vital geode]

It is a good stat

Just note that you might get cut off from your rubber anyways

[civic hare]

thats what I was thinking of

I did make it into a puppet

how do I get the resource rights

[vital geode]

Also japan will invade you

[vital geode]

Do you have By Blood Alone

[civic hare]

I dont have any dlcs

[vital geode]

Then no resource rights for you

Trade 1 civ for 80 resources

Note the UK will likely do a naval embargo and prevent your resources from reaching you

[tropic seal]

oop..

[austere roost]

another reason for you to watch guides

[tropic seal]

yes im watching through uh

[austere roost]

they're not optimal but they teach newbies the basics without high chance of error

[tropic seal]

the belgian guys one right now

ah aight

[analog maple]

while setting Reiches. is it better to use a German official or a collaborator?

[vital geode]

Personally, I dont notice any differences

[gilded herald]

I always do German official

[pulsar beacon]

no

dont push with inf use tanks for that

[gray geode]

Could anyone help teach the game to me

[tropic seal]

oh

ok

but people were telling me to make inf pushing templates

[sweet summit]

Chat
If i attack Iran as Afghanistan, they call in the allies 🥀
What do i do

[tropic seal]

wait i need to do a special project for flame tanks?

[pliant condor]

it's better not to click this

[pliant condor]

you need to build a land facility

[analog maple]

wdym i have too

[pliant condor]

the tempalte is fine exceptthat you need to add some anti air

[pliant condor]

don't create reichkoms

[analog maple]

why?

[pliant condor]

they are useless other than taking factory away from you

[analog maple]

i dont wanna garrison half the world

[pliant condor]

then throw away the land

or you could have peace dealed it

if you own half of the world

rk is very very different from a normal puppet

[indigo sapphire]

hello should i use all Special projects and all normal techs and equipments

[tropic seal]

What are the two modules in the top right?

[versed rose]

in clearer terms, Reichskommisariats are worse than useless, they are actively detrimental. Normal integrated puppets or collab governments are far superior

[tropic seal]

is it radio

it looks a bit diff from what i have as radio though

[pliant condor]

radio(which you don't need)

and easy maintenance

easy maintenance is very good, you get it from researching maintenance 2

[pliant condor]

or even just harsh quotaing the land

[austere roost]

radio and easy maintenance, also convert this to a spg and remove the engine and armor upgrades

[tropic seal]

ah aight i was wondering why i couldnt find it lol

[tropic seal]

oh ok

i was following this channel's pinned guide for best medium tank

is it outdated now

[austere roost]

the only special project that is absolutely necessary are radars and flame tanks

it's just pre-ncns

post-ncns you should build spgs for sp and tds for mp because they're better than regular tanks now

[pulsar beacon]

wtf

[pliant condor]

you always want to make it spg

also radio 3 and 14 engine is pretty much a waste

but it doesn't matter much

[pulsar beacon]

if you push with big fat infantry divs you will attrition massively

[pliant condor]

as long as you have howitzer 2 and spg role

[indigo sapphire]

should i add a new SP called Fleet carrier?

[tropic seal]

oh

[pliant condor]

not true btw

[tropic seal]

yes

[pliant condor]

at least it's better than artillery at pushing

[tropic seal]

do you have a spg template that i can use?

the pinned one is medium tank

[pulsar beacon]

in the eastern front you will its just better to have cheap defensive infantry

you wont even lose much stats anyays

[austere roost]

wait till we can design rifles and inf becomes better at attacking than armor as we invent 50 piercing 50 breakthrough guns

[arctic pollen]

I capitulated the raj and it keeps un capitulating does anyone know why?

[tropic seal]

does doing this still buff armored recon units

[austere roost]

yeah but why would you research it

[versed rose]

it 'buffs' them by increasing their recon stat

the useless stat

don't research that garbage

[tropic seal]

Ah aight

[tropic seal]

which support companie are worth researching?

Also does anyone have a flame tank template

[austere roost]

i feel likei answered this to you already

[tropic seal]

oh

[austere roost]

but for support companies maybe logistics?

[tropic seal]

not engineer?

[austere roost]

field hospital and signal are also okay but you're locked with 5 and you usually start with engineer researched already

so usually you already have engineer support art and support aa if you don't build spaa

but like engineer + flame tank + support aa means you don't have a lot of slots to begin with

and ranger is also a really good support company so you really don't have much slots to fill usually

[tropic seal]

Is this what i would use for flame tank template

i heard that i have to make it cheap right

or something

[austere roost]

yeah the cheapest as possible

[tropic seal]

ok

[austere roost]

and you forgot to turn it into flame tank

tbh you can just use inter war chassis if you really want cheap

[tropic seal]

oh

[tropic seal]

oh yeah mb

[tropic seal]

is that the best? stats dont matter on flame tanks right

[pliant condor]

same

[austere roost]

yeah

[tropic seal]

aight

[austere roost]

then you can improve by adding heavy machine guns and easy maintenance

[pliant condor]

do full armor click and fill it with extra ammunition

so you get breakthrough from it

[tropic seal]

i thought the tanks personal stats didnt matter though?

[austere roost]

you really don't need the armor clicks

oh wait for flame tanks?

[tropic seal]

yes

[austere roost]

are you trolling? getting breakthrough from flame tanks?

have you clicked on what negative buffs flame tanks get in stats?

you can have 20 armor and the breakthrough is like 10

[tropic seal]

what final support company do i add

[austere roost]

did you change it to spgs?

[light dune]

assault engineers maybe

[austere roost]

these are still tanks

[tropic seal]

ah wait not yet

[austere roost]

first of all, do you have any divisions running already

[tropic seal]

where do i unlock asault engineers

[tropic seal]

yes

[austere roost]

just use regular engineers

you need armor vehicles first

[indigo sapphire]

should i make a Template full of RANGERS?

[tropic seal]

ok

for th armored recon company

i need light tanks right

does that mean i should just make cheap light tanks for the armored recon?

[austere roost]

you really don't need recon

[light dune]

experimental tech for armoured support provides assualt engineers

[austere roost]

recon is a hobby project unless we're talking about ranger recon

[tropic seal]

oh

what do i swap it out for then

[austere roost]

i mean you can just remove it

if you don't want to build lights

[tropic seal]

ah aight

[austere roost]

also you don't have aa so you might want aa

[tropic seal]

oh ok

yeah true

im not building an air force

[light dune]

is assualt engineers

[tropic seal]

ahh i see

aight thanks

[austere roost]

you should still prioritize flame tanks before mil engineering vehicles

regular engineers are perfectly fine

[light dune]

yes sir

[austere roost]

the problem isn't to find the perfect division

[light dune]

better for defence

[austere roost]

if you're doing that you should just wait until 1945 and research everything to its perfect form

[tropic seal]

lol fair

[light dune]

yep just an option

[austere roost]

the problem is you need to build the most high quality divisions by 1939/1941/whenever you are beginning the war

so you need to set priorities

[light dune]

and the cheapest reaserch/production

[tropic seal]

assault, field engineering and spearhead right?

[light dune]

depends on tank type

[austere roost]

which is why this is my spg, i can build 120 of 36 width divisions with these cheap armor and these divisions have 900 soft attack and 360 breakthrough which is enough for sp

[tropic seal]

medium tanks currently

it might be too late to convert to spg? im not sure

its june 1940

[austere roost]

that's why you need to start as spgs

[tropic seal]

ah yeah

[austere roost]

but it's not too late esp if you're not using these divisions as your main division

[light dune]

then yeah probs spearhead

[tropic seal]

aight

[tropic seal]

I'm using them as my main tank divs

I only have one tank div template

are we meant to have multiple

[austere roost]

yeah but are you building 120 of them?

[tropic seal]

not 120

[austere roost]

or just using them as elite encircling units

yeah so you can always make a change

[tropic seal]

oh ok

theres no spg template in pins is there

[light dune]

is assault assault infantry

[austere roost]

no

you don't need to

[tropic seal]

yes

[austere roost]

spgs and tds are replacements for tanks

so you don't need another template

[tropic seal]

i mean like

spg template

what to put on it

[austere roost]

just follow this

like this whole time we've been telling you to replace tanks with spgs so you should know what the template should be like

[tropic seal]

nono i meant like

what gun to use on the spg

that type of template

[austere roost]

well you use the guns that allow you to turn your tank to an spg

[tropic seal]

and everything else stays the same? like modules and stuff

[austere roost]

yeah

[tropic seal]

aight thanks

[pliant condor]

it's more efficient than getting breakthrough on your tank

[austere roost]

i mean you don't need most modules, heavy machine guns and easy maintenance are really all you need

[pliant condor]

and it does not occupy width

you can easily get 80 break from it

[austere roost]

this is insane

i need to open hoi4 for this

[pliant condor]

you want to do individual excellence, self propelled support, mobile defense, and graqnd assault

2 and 3 are best for tanks clearly

and 1 and 4 are the best in general

especially grand assault

[austere roost]

for armor subdoctrine pick the one that gives most soft attack or hard attack/piercing to spgs and tds given what armor variant you are using

pdx now shows all buffs when you hover over a subdoctrine which is a rare ui win for pdx

[tropic seal]

oh dang

how do i change my tanks into spgs

[austere roost]

just try clicking things in the tank designer. you can't miss it

[tropic seal]

is it unlocked by default or is it a separate research?

[austere roost]

there's a certain dropdown menu that lets you turn a tank into an artillery which makes it a spg

[tropic seal]

and here are all the modules

[austere roost]

i mean the game is literally telling you to switch the gun to something that is artillery compatible

[sweet summit]

Somebody messed with the timeeline, why is Italy better than Germany

[tropic seal]

these are all the turrets

[sweet summit]

Medium Howitzer

Or Close Support Gun

[austere roost]

did i say gun or turret?

[tropic seal]

uh

[sweet summit]

Main Armament

[austere roost]

you're quoting me which says switch guns and you are showing me the turret

[tropic seal]

ahh alright thanks

sorry

i thought turret was the gun

[sweet summit]

I dunno what a turret is
It's probably the three man thing a majog

[austere roost]

anyway for flame tanks: if you switch to flame tanks you get -60% breakthrough so why are you even maxxing out breakthrough? esp when breakthrough is a useless stat once you reach a certain threshold

turret is the room where the crew sits in

[tropic seal]

ah aight

[raw magnet]

whats a good base template for Italian nation to use? I tried doing a small tank division method, while it did succeed a fair amount, I was stuck in a stalemate in Africa.

[austere roost]

if you just want to fill the lines, 18 width inf is good enough

and all tank divisions should be big divisions, usually the best width is 35 but in reality 36 is easier to achieve

[restive hedge]

whys it say this when i have ships in the region

[civic hare]

whats the best way to prepare to defend the german east indies (indo puppeted)

[austere roost]

are you patrolling? if you are, then sorry, navy is bugged right now and you might need to cancel patrol mission and restart it to make it work

[dry dome]

Hey guys...does anyone know how else I could improve this besides not attacking river?

[pliant condor]

because it also only uses 30% of the equipment

so you can just ignore breakthrough on your spg

it's optional ofc

[tropic seal]

4309???? through a river??

[pliant condor]

but just more efficient this way to have it on the support tanks

[civic hare]

?

[dry dome]

I am using radios 3's and howitzer 2's on mid spgs

[dry dome]

Is it good?

[pliant condor]

radios are useless

[tropic seal]

isnt that really good

[pliant condor]

you don't need that much breakthrough

[dry dome]

Idk

[dry dome]

Idek what the defence and breakthrough stats do but I see them on yt so I put them on

[pliant condor]

are you just looking for a screenshot with max stats

[austere roost]

well you should check what they do then

[dry dome]

I am just trying to get to 5k soft

Idek if it's possible so I came to ask if it is

[austere roost]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/1g8kjz2/quick_explanation_about_defenseattack_and/

[dry dome]

In vanilla with all the dlcs

[dry dome]

Ty

Will give it a read in a bit ❤️

[austere roost]

defense/breakthrough counters soft/hard attack so any defense/breakthrough over enemy's soft/hard attack is useless

[dry dome]

So spgs are not even that bad?

Ong

Omg I just realised

[austere roost]

who told you they're bad?

spgs and tds are meta now

they've been meta since day 1 of ncns

actually we knew this since the dev diaries

[dry dome]

If I want pure stats I can put the support artillery things

[hexed parcel]

Do i need normal tanks alongside those

[dry dome]

A friend of mine who got me into the game

[dry dome]

ncns?

[austere roost]

what's the name of the new dlc?

[austere roost]

you can but they're not meta

[tropic seal]

no compromise no surrender

[dry dome]

Ohhhh

[civic hare]

whats the best way to prepare to defend the german east indies (indo puppeted)

[dry dome]

It isn't loading for me

Nvm Reddit is being weird atm

[austere roost]

again, why do you need that much breakthrough? you're wasting ic and xp

[dry dome]

If it decides it wants to work at some point, I will read the post 😄

[austere roost]

well you need to garrison them and send your navy there to defeat japan assuming it's japan invading

[austere roost]

just scroll upwards, i just said what defense/breakthrough does

defense is for when you're on the defense in battle and breakthrough is for when you're attacking

[pliant condor]

you don't

but it's literally free

flame tank design is also free of xp

[austere roost]

it's not

it's not free

[pliant condor]

???

[austere roost]

it costs ic

[pliant condor]

it's ic better spent than getting breakthrough on your tank

so you can just ditch the radio

it's the most efficient way to have breakthrough simply put

[austere roost]

unless you have 400 factories, it's much better to just build cas instead if you want free attack

[inner sparrow]

not entirely how it works

[pliant condor]

that makes no sense

i agree that on a tank it matters very little

but it's basically free

[austere roost]

ah yes because when I research flame tanks in 1939 i have max armor researched

[austere roost]

yes, but we're explaining to people who don't even know how to convert tanks to spgs or tds

[pliant condor]

? just use whatever you have

[inner sparrow]

still saying flame tanks are waste of ic and u don’t need the break is just wrong

[pliant condor]

extra ammunition is literally free also

[inner sparrow]

hmmm I love missing stats for no reason

[pliant condor]

free of xp, free of cost

[austere roost]

flame tanks are not waste of ic

[dry dome]

Oki dokie thank you kind sir

[austere roost]

they're very valuable but you don't need stats for them esp when you're low on other things

[pliant condor]

and the worst thing is putting fuel tank on the flame tank as per some youtubers😂

empty flame is not bad

it's just missing a little bit of free stats

but on the other hand, if you use the flame in an infantry, you would be missing tons of stats if you leave it empty

the new doctrine also works perfectly with them

[austere roost]

oh i mean if you have 20 factories to spare then you can try it

but i don't really build inf

[pliant condor]

if you make 5 ic flame tank 1 factory would be enough

or maybe 2 if you design it a bit

but again it's the most ic efficient way of having breakthrough, so if you ever need it

[austere roost]

if you're having 200 divisions then you need some factories for flame tanks

[pliant condor]

if those are infantry then flame tank give you valuable stat you won't get otherwise

so it's a reasonable investment

[austere roost]

but should you really use inf for attack?

[dry dome]

Btw are medium/large fighters worth it?

[neat widget]

upper left, then click that little icon next to the x (not the x itself) (this screen also contains special forces cap information)

[pliant condor]

no

[austere roost]

you can build motherships if you want to meme but it's not meta

[pliant condor]

yes

[austere roost]

in sp almost anything can do with all the powercreep

[pliant condor]

and it's a lot more efficient than most alternatives

[dry dome]

Sounds fun...what is that though?

[austere roost]

if you don't know how to get it then you don't need it

[dry dome]

Assuming like a plane version of an aircraft carrier?

[austere roost]

stick to regular fighters

but yes motherships were a soviet experiment that was never materialized

[neat widget]

While we're here take a look at the navy and air screens (navy is also where you find your naval invasion cap)

[dry dome]

Oooo sounds interesting though

[pliant condor]

in game it's rather boring

it's just a huge fighter that trades terribly

[neat widget]

@queen agate take a look at this post

[dry dome]

Awww 🙁

[austere roost]

the only advantage of motherships is +5 range motherships pretty much cover 3/4s of the world and you really only need 500 of them so you don't need to worry about airports

but if you actually need to trade against enemy fighters you'll need real fighters

[neat widget]

Yeah pretty much

[austere roost]

also you'll need a lot of rubber and aluminum for motherships, it's 8 alum 3 rubber for every factory

[pliant condor]

like this is a design that requires basically zero research(outside of the tank itself) and nearly doubles the breakthrough on a 18 width

cost is like 1.5 battalion of inf

[austere roost]

yeah but unless you're using inf to attack, you don't get these benefits

obv this depends on playstyle but usually if you can use special forces/armor to attack, you wouldn't use inf to attack

[tropic seal]

why are my units stats so cooked

i know that theres like

a terrain debuff and supply debuff

but it shouldnt go that low right

or is this expected

[austere roost]

well you can hover over the stats to see why ou have the debuff

but generally speaking it seems like you're down in fuel and are underequipped

[neat widget]

First thing's first, click a division to view its actual stats (it might not be fully equipped so you get no stats)

[tropic seal]

ah

[tropic seal]

here are the stats

im using this template

[dry dome]

Btw is it just me or whenever a commander gets a trait the other traits are getting learned slower?

[austere roost]

no no no

in the battle screen, hover over the three stat

so hover over the 71, 19, 20, 49, 19, 14

[tropic seal]

oh

[neat widget]

Then you hover and see what combat modifiers are affecting things

[tropic seal]

this?

or this

[dry dome]

Assuming it meant over the soft attack

[austere roost]

yeah

it tells you why: you are attacking and defending at the same time (in multiple combat), your units are green, and you have low supply

if you have combat width issues you need to let units from another tile attack too

[tropic seal]

oh aight

[neat widget]

Oh by the way don't forget to hover over those icons

[austere roost]

that's why before war you want to train your troops so they're at least lvl 2 and preferrably lvl 3

[neat widget]

Like the AA symbol gives some nice information you won't get anywhere else

[tropic seal]

ah aight

[neat widget]

Yeah, there's a trick though since you'd lose a lot of tank equipment by just naively training them

Basically don't give the division equipment when you train them

[austere roost]

i just train big inf divisions and replace them with tanks

[tropic seal]

oh what

wdym

[austere roost]

this is an advanced trick, you need to learn how to assign equipment in division template

[tropic seal]

ah nvm then

[austere roost]

i mean tbh it's not that hard, you just go into your division template and uncheck equipment

[neat widget]

You convert like a 1/0 tank to your normal (in this case 10/8) and like here turn off the quipment as you see here

[tropic seal]

ah i see

[austere roost]

when you train you lose 5% due to attrition but 5% of 0 is 0

[tropic seal]

oh

[neat widget]

eh, they changed the rounding so that you may lose 1 or 2 equipment of the thing you actually have in the division

So since a 1/0 light tank has 60 tanks, you can start losing light tanks

[austere roost]

just be like me and train big inf divisions

who cares if you lose 50 guns every day

[neat widget]

I mean 50 guns every day per division is scary

[austere roost]

don't train them in jan mayen

[pliant condor]

ok you need to do that correctly

the easier method is just train big infantry divisions

yeah

and then directly edit the infantry template to your tank template

[buoyant cargo]

guys help please

I have had enough

Not a single ship of mine wants to move in this area

[pliant condor]

you need to click this or ctrl + right click on greenland

so your fleets' home base is set there

the range on the fleet extends from its home base

right now it's based on wilhemshaven

[buoyant cargo]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Interesting

I thought they will directly use the closest ports to start the task

[buoyant cargo]

ty man

< 3

[austere roost]

you might want to follow the dev diaries since pdx is saying they will fix a lot of the bugs with the new navy system (whether they can fix it is another issue)

[pliant condor]

the button sets them on automatic

y:

[buoyant cargo]

tysm guys, my marines are cooking hard ❤️

[fathom grove]

Hey if i was going to go into artillery really heavily should i go with gb or sp

i am an old returning player, back from the 7/2 days and i have no idea which doctrines are meta

[buoyant cargo]

Superior Firepower

[austere roost]

line artillery have been jokes ever since nsb

use spg or tds if you want artillery guns in your divisions

the best doctrine is gbp and the second best is sf, mw has always been a joke and ma has fallen off since the latest dlc

[neat widget]

Also true

[fathom grove]

I am playing as bulgaria, I wanted to use artillery because theye get DVF. is there another strategy i should shoot for instead?

[austere roost]

use spgs instead of line artillery

or just inf since inf have better stats than artillery

[fathom grove]

bulgaria is a sleeper favorite in my experience, so many potential crosspaths and internal politics and international politics. its really cool

[fathom grove]

Lol mountaineers mgiht be the play

[austere roost]

no, regular inf have better stats than artillery

esp after 1939

you don't need special forces to outperform artillery

[fathom grove]

Gotcha interesting

feels like the victoria 3 defending army thing

alright thanks

[austere roost]

but if you remember how space marines work, just insert a medium spg into your inf division (light spg if you lack the ic)

[fathom grove]

Makes sense

[remote bone]

what do i do

[indigo sapphire]

should i buy any and all future dlcs and expansions

[fathom grove]

not if you are wise. i am not wise

[indigo sapphire]

wdym

[fathom grove]

Its probably a waste of money but i will waste my money despite my better impulses

we can't really judge future exansions before they are out really

[indigo sapphire]

OH alr

any games that have dlcs and expansions whether free or paid ill always get

@fathom grove

[buoyant cargo]

hey guys, how to know who's faction leader?

because I finished UK, USA, Canada, Mixeco and they still fighting

my war isn't over yet 😭

I can't believe this, chile inf is defending so hard against my tanks

[neat widget]

what do your tanks look like and where are they fighting

[jolly musk]

Can anyone teach me how to invade pls

[buoyant cargo]

Rule number 1: don't go without supply

[buoyant cargo]

@neat widget is it good?

I just focused on soft attack

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You don't need welded armor on these, you can lower costs by making them riveted. Also, you're better off with assault engineers and medium flame tanks instead of armored engineers and light flame tanks

also what are your doctrines

[jolly musk]

Its not that,when i try to invade my troops go foward but the enemy takes the territory behind them

[neat widget]

p.s. you can also move the aa to a motorized aa and reserve that support company slot for something like logistics companies

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I assume you're fighting somewhere in Chile? are you doing things like naval landings or mountain fighting?

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You have no people?

[buoyant cargo]

no, chile troops were in Mixeco