ask-for-help-here

[dull flicker]

so do they have like reduced org when landing?

[light knoll]

when you declare on a puppet, you automatically declare on the master, and it'll call into the war anyone guaranteeing them

[dull flicker]

or what happens

[trail topaz]

thanks

[lone sigil]

mo reduced eqipment

no

[robust glen]

I have all of em I am saying are they compatible with the mod 🤦

[light knoll]

and manpower

[trail topaz]

how can i influence another countrys ideology?

[dull flicker]

oh i see!

[light knoll]

do you have la resistance

[trail topaz]

yes

[robust glen]

Is 56 good?

[light knoll]

then you can put a spy on boost ideology mission

hard for it to be super effective tho

its easier without la resistance

[scenic nacelle]

Some people like it some don’t

[trail topaz]

how do i do that

[dull flicker]

so equipment insufficiency?

[light knoll]

do you know how to make spy agency

[robust glen]

Your take?

[light knoll]

and less manpower yes

[trail topaz]

Yeah

I have one

[dull flicker]

wow nice

thanks guys

[scenic nacelle]

I don’t rlly like it

[light knoll]

then one of the options you have with your spies is boost ideologies

its the microphone symbol

[trail topaz]

thanks

[cold bloom]

Awesome (not biased at all)

I just see it as vanilla+, if you dont want something vanilla-like theres plenty other mods for that

[dull flicker]

what is the purpose of the RT56 mod? havent tried it, is it like a continuation beyond hoi4?

[topaz yew]

Its a good idea to build military factories where you're going to be in a civil war right? Because i think i pretty much lost because i had zero of them

[wooden kite]

is it allways the same outcome in a save if i press a decison?

[pliant condor]

not if you trigger it on another day

[robust glen]

Hoi4 is good but the fact that you can't end a war until you have won 100% that is an L

[proven rapids]

How do I order a naval invasion

when i press the naval invasion button when having selected an army group, it does nothing

oh wait i have to do it with one army at once

bruh

[civic hare]

so much for that

[neat widget]

You don't even need that tbh

[civic hare]

honestly either I am just bad or this is a bit hard

[neat widget]

It is decently hard but you should generally be able to make landfall

Also make sure you have good divisions too

[civic hare]

I could do something extremely cheesy that would make me able to take them out in like 5 days but its too cheesy and another reason

[neat widget]

You mean dropping their victory points?

[civic hare]

no

[neat widget]

In either case the direction looks good, the channel is under your control

[civic hare]

amazing the naval control is going down (earlier I did have NS but my troops got taken out)

[bronze grove]

You being too much of an ESL isn't my fault

[civic hare]

about to transport on to ports wanna help me out?

is it finna be better for me to keep trying on the UK or attack the USSR?

and ofc my paratroopers get deleted

[obsidian comet]

Im in 38 with manchuko shall I try to make a better infantry based army or try more cav based?

[neat widget]

How did it go

[civic hare]

I have a new plan

https://tenor.com/view/tank-panzer-army-spiritus-gif-22314269

[neat widget]

what do your templates look like

[civic hare]

oh for paras

[neat widget]

That's why your paratroopers got killed

They basically have no combat power

no HP

not even defense

[civic hare]

what should I put on the divisions then

[neat widget]

so they're getting critted to death

[civic hare]

just more paras?

[neat widget]

make it 36 width with support companies like light flame tank, aa, signals, hospitals, artillery, or stuff like that

There will be a paradrop icon next to the support companies that are paradroppable

[civic hare]

this?

[neat widget]

don't make them 40 width

(okay 40 width is actually fine for england for the most part, there's like 3 forest tiles, but in general don't do it)

[wintry matrix]

Yes, they can be dropped.
But they are huge.
You could make the template smaller to support more paratroop divisions if you lack the numbers.

[neat widget]

And then they'd get killed, which is why we moved away from doing that. We do need like 20 of these though

[neat widget]

also i forgot it may be good to have engineers, but ig what's done is done

[dusty sandal]

too much breakthrough, not enough soft attack, lacking medium flame tank (essential) and support AA (important as well)

[eager juniper]

guys, quick question: are trains good or important for supplies?

[obsidian wren]

Anyone know any good templates to use against Japan as China or a warlord state these days? I can't seem to do anything against them after NCNS. It's extremely frsutrating

[plucky otter]

The most important thing for supplies

You can still supply your army without trucks. But without trains good luck

[obsidian wren]

I take it that nobody knows right now then lmao

[lyric geyser]

16 width template with support aa and artillery companies if you can have the industry, early game you can beat any warlord by having supplied divisions and against Japan just spam out 16 widths to hold and then once your confident you can hold you can spam out 36 width inf to push back

[static gazelle]

pls help someone im going insane

what is this supposed to mean

[obsidian wren]

soundfs good. I take it its the same if you play as a warlord but much harder lol

[lyric geyser]

If your a warlord you can start with 8 width till you unify part of China as long as you make sure your divisions are just equipped

[bronze geyser]

in short: you need to have ships in Tyrrhenian sea to have naval dominance, giving the order to patrol that area is more than enough to get naval doominance

[neat widget]

I think it's a bug, if you have allies I imagine you should be able to naval invade

[bronze geyser]

how do you win vs germany? it doesn't matter which country i play, no matter my divisions and production, they always eat me alive

[sand ember]

Make a bunch of infantry, let them attack into you for a year or two, then kill them

[static gazelle]

man maybe read the screenshot

[static gazelle]

im playing as brazil fixed it now but it happens alot in playthrougha

[neat widget]

yeah don't know why it acts like that

[quick rock]

Any good websites with Meta templates

[fathom thistle]

Not really. Most of the info on websites is just wrong or misinformation. You have a better chance watching a video on yt from a pro players or here

[weak crater]

What should I do when it says low supply’s in my Soviet theater

[cold garnet]

in that case, "no matter" is a stretch

there is always something more you can do

send save

[bronze geyser]

i've had different countries in pushing and they were obliterating us

is there a type of division that gooes well overall against germany?

[cold garnet]

not really

of course good tanks always work as long as they have supply, but even infantry can

mountaineers, rangers, etc etc

I have done Chilean games where I really just sent light tank volunteers to AI Soviets and that was enough to kill AI Germany

[sweet summit]

Can somebody explain the Air force to me

[bronze geyser]

dam
ook ill keep experimenting then and see if i can find something

tyy

[bronze geyser]

what exactly?

[sweet summit]

First of all what does the airframe matter for ?

[bronze geyser]

depends on what you want them for

[sweet summit]

Ok.. what kind of planes can you get ?

I know CAS helps on the ground a ton

[bronze geyser]

small aiframe=fighter or naval bomber,
medium= versatile, heavy fighter oro tactical bomber
large= strategic bomber

ofc smaller is cheaper so large is more expensive

[sweet summit]

Gotcha

Fighter I'm assuming is used to kill other planes so medium airframe

What's the difference between tactical and strategic bombsr

Yup

[bronze geyser]

if im not mistaken tacticals have long range and they are more effective for naval coombat

strat ones perform only one mission but they basically bring air supremacy and wipe enemy aircraft off

[sweet summit]

So I'll make all of them right ?

I'll do navy later, it's not like the uk will attack me

[bronze geyser]

sure if you want to, but depends which country you play, let's say you play poland who barely has sea, you won't need any tactical or any type of naval airforce

on the other side if you play as japan or the uk... well now you know the drill

[sweet summit]

So no naval bombers phew

[bronze geyser]

at least for me naval combat and mechanics are the hardest

[sweet summit]

Light machine gun 4× for fighter ?

Fucccckk Italy

I can't bypass 70 days cuz they took one state of Yugo 🥀

[bronze geyser]

yea this is the most common template

[foggy rune]

what is this negative factor?

[bronze geyser]

in short: how many votes are in favor and how many against, meaning you should have more in favor than against for them to join you

[foggy rune]

but I'm germany

[bronze geyser]

oh

[foggy rune]

so why does it say I have reason to reject

[bronze geyser]

you select the german french war

and they should accept

[plucky storm]

What would you guys recommend for patrol task forces? I use spotting Cruisers rn, but idk if it’s the best choice

[foggy rune]

it still has that modifier for -1000

oh they have a non-aggression pact with Yugoslavia so that must be the cause

[bronze geyser]

ah, yeah that can be

[foggy rune]

well I guess I just need to demolish Yugoslavia real quick lmao

[bronze geyser]

u're germany youll CRUSH them

[foggy rune]

yeah they're not doing so hot

[bronze geyser]

and tbh italy is terrible overall

[foggy rune]

I don't care about Italy I just need to hit France through the south because I'm being friends with Belgium and they haven't finished their civil war yet

[bronze geyser]

they get naval invasion by uk in sicilia, mussolini quits and civil war

[foggy rune]

so Italy is my way around the Maginot

[bronze geyser]

but you can send troops on italy and attack from there no?

[foggy rune]

because they can't join the war they're technically a neutral country so I cant

[bronze geyser]

ahh

you can go for the netherlands tho

wait i just realized, why belgium has a civil war?

[foggy rune]

I went for the focus Influence the Benelux which pushes Belgium Netherlands and Luxemburg fascist

I know conquering them is far easier but I wanted to try Germany being a little more friendly

so I'm trying to ally poland, the nordics, the baltics, and the Benelux

[bronze geyser]

wat

that's a weird play, but sounds interesting

GL

[foggy rune]

yeah I wanted to give it a try, going well so far except norway said no to me lol

[bronze geyser]

well, if a no you have, an invade they should have

[foggy rune]

true

is there a way to get rid of this minus 2000 modifier to join my faction?

[bronze geyser]

i think you need to improve relations and even send attaché to poland

[foggy rune]

I can try it

damn they joined the allies

luckily france isn't in the allies so I'm not at war with them

[bronze geyser]

o7

i lost to germay (again)

[sweet summit]

Uhhhhh

Wait wat's a flamethrower tank

[bronze geyser]

basically that,

a flamethrower tank

too use it you create or edit a tank template, and it should have that option

[sweet summit]

What should the additions be

[bronze geyser]

idk i never use it

for my tank templates i always add stuff that gives breakthgrough

[weak crater]

How do I defend my country from air raids

[bronze geyser]

i think with your airforce you select the interception and should be fine

[weak crater]

I don’t see a interference option

[bronze geyser]

the 4th one from left to right

[inner mountain]

why isnt this triggering?

[weak crater]

It’s not stopping any bombs dude

[bronze geyser]

that optioon makes your airforce to stop enemy airforce missioons of bombing and CAS

or make a defense line with anti air?

[weak crater]

Well I don’t even see them leaving the airfield

[violet vale]

is there any way to make the Baltics ai to go communist as the Soviet union puppet instead of independent communism?

[inner mountain]

they never go independent communist

[weak crater]

How do I do a naval raid

[bronze geyser]

you need to have naval supremacy

[weak crater]

I mean like d day

[sweet summit]

Annex turkey or puppet ?🥀

[weak crater]

Like I need to attack Germany but I’m only Uk what do I do

[bronze geyser]

oh, you select your divisions, then select the naval invasion option, click the port where you want them to start, then the port where you want them to arrive, execute the order and should be fine

[weak crater]

I did that but nothing happening

[bronze geyser]

you need to have naval superiority in the english channel

and the navy make sure to have some navy in patrol and some for naval invasion assistance

you need to wait 50 days in order to execute the invasion

[weak crater]

How do I get naval superiority

[bronze geyser]

with ships patrolling that specific area

on your army, when you hover your mouse on the green arrow that executes orders, you can see what is missing for a naval invasion

[weak crater]

How do I patrol

[bronze geyser]

keep in mind if you there's conflicts (in this case in the english channel) then you might have some difficutlies to get the superiority

[bronze geyser]

click the navy, then the patrol option and click the area you want to patrol

and your navy will cover all that zone

[weak crater]

Where is patrol option

[bronze geyser]

the first one is to patrol and allows you to have naval supremacy

[weak crater]

Do I left or right click English Channel

[bronze geyser]

right click

[weak crater]

Done but how do I know if I got superiority

[bronze geyser]

as far as i know there's 2 ways, if 50 days have passed, your troops (which shouold be on the port you want them to depart from) will automatically move through the sea,
2nd, you can see im hovering the green arrow wiht my mouse, when you do it, on your division who will invade, you can see the requirements and if there's something missing

[weak crater]

Did I setup the invaision

[bronze geyser]

execute the order and you'll need to wait 50 days

[weak crater]

Didn’t I alr execute

[bronze geyser]

if it's dark green then its not executed,
if it's light green then it is

[weak crater]

Nvm I execute now

[bronze geyser]

yup

[weak crater]

Why have my guys just not gone yet

[bronze geyser]

theres different possible reasons

the only 2 i can think of are maybe you lost naval supremacy,
maybe your ships don't have the support naval invasion (it's not obligatory but helps)

[edgy mesa]

Also get more then one divs on it

The divs that are invading should be on the harbor you’re attacking from

[bronze geyser]

ok, you need to assign your divs to that order

basically you are sending no one to invade even if you can invade

[weak crater]

I did

I have people in the army Ï sent

But they just won’t go

[bronze geyser]

in the red line that crosses the sea says no divisions,
it should say the name oofo the division you are sending

[weak crater]

Why isn’t there any division

I’m assigning them to my army

Now are they sending

[bronze geyser]

i think that should be fine

[weak crater]

It randomly changed to no division

[bronze geyser]

or just delete the naval invasion order, and do it again

also make sure to have this upgraded since it allows you to transport more units

[weak crater]

IVE been doing that

[young hill]

idk if weve discussed this alr

but does @weak crater have supremacy

[weak crater]

Don’t see transport option

[young hill]

wrong naval tab

the ship with a +

[weak crater]

I do

[young hill]

have your divs planned?

[young hill]

has this red gone away

[weak crater]

It random going from 1 division to no division when I try to do it

[weak crater]

? What’s that

[young hill]

you see where it has the red number / yellow number

you ened to wait till tat disappears

[weak crater]

I don’t see anything like that

[young hill]

its on the plan

[young hill]

i got it frmo this video

[weak crater]

Do I need to research landing craft?

[young hill]

it allows you to plan more naval invasions

[foggy rune]

is there a way to tell how long iI have left on a non aggression pact

[weak crater]

Yeah it reaches 50 and then says no div

[foggy rune]

can you try just assigning them?

[onyx tapir]

are there any mods that take place in the russan civil war

[foggy rune]

hold control and click on the arrow

[weak crater]

Why

[foggy rune]

to assign divisions

select the divisions you want to assign, then control click the arrow to assign them

idk if that fixes your problem but it's one thing to try

[weak crater]

It worked

[foggy rune]

I believe there's one called rise of Russia, it's in Russian but there's an English translation mod

nice!

[onyx tapir]

thx

[foggy rune]

np

[limpid atlas]

How can I make sure the Benelux countries accept this?

I want to try it with the Netherlands.

[foggy rune]

I don't know how that particular event works but generally you should improve relations to bring up their opinion of you and hope for the best

I don't think you can fully guarentee it

[echo night]

how does planning and its bonus work? I just make frrnt line draw arrow and click

[austere roost]

if you hover over a unit it under a general it will tell you the amount of stat bonus it will have when it attacks if the unit is under a plan

it takes time to accumulate but you usually get full plan bonus in 10-20 days

it only applies to attacking

and you don't need to execute the plan to have the bonus applied

which is why you see experienced players drawing a plan but not executing it, so they can optimize the actual attack by using player-routes instead of stupid ai routes

planning bonus decays when your unit moves so whether you click the arrow or move units manually your unit will lose the planning bonus

the only useful planning traits are ones that add max planning bonus since they allow you to accumulate more planning bonus, planning speed is not an important bonus to have

It's also why sfp is better at defense than gbp is while gbp is better for offense, although the difference is negligible. It's because gbp gives planning bonus while sfp gives raw stats

[marsh rune]

Hi everyone, I'm new to the game and I'm having some trouble with a few mechanics in the navy and army. Maybe someone could give me a quick hand in voice chat? I think for an experienced player they're just minor things.

[neat widget]

only one div?

add more divs to your order

[hollow linden]

Gbp has better offensive buffs ye, sfp gives a lot of recov rate, which is important while defending

Sfp doesn't give raw stats

[native gorge]

K so what's a good early game template

W/ space marines

[hollow linden]

Space marines are not good anymore sadly

Everyone and their mother has piercing now

[native gorge]

Well what's a good early game template i can use then?

[hollow linden]

Just 8/0 inf

Then just increase the size of the div until you reach 36w

For inf at least

For tank build light spgs are good

But honestly inf gets the job done for much cheaper

[dire jackal]

Yall how the heck do I build a navy as germany 😭

[hollow linden]

Make this

Maybe without the radar and fire control

But armor is very important

[dire jackal]

ooh thank you

[dire jackal]

do I just spam that?

[hollow linden]

Ye

[unique geyser]

I can't get the Backfire achievement
I've researched (done the special project for) and produced medium range ballistic missiles
I'm playing as the UK and at war with the German Reich
I have fully stocked my rocket sites and have extra MRBMs
I don't have Gotterdammerung, is that required?
The achievement is listed as available but has a red cross next to the requirements

[hybrid sand]

from my youtube experince. spam subs

[edgy mesa]

picture?

[wintry oxide]

anyone knows why is my army not attacking?

Im portugal, trying to attack uk

well forces stationed there are Austalian and Norway

but still

im in axis

could it be because spain is not in the war?

[rain iris]

why does my fleet not engage when it is on strike force?

[wintry oxide]

it's in axis too tho

[dire jackal]

which one of the tank designers should I get?

[wide mirage]

what do i atach

[dusty sandal]

yes, spain needs to be in the war

[dusty sandal]

use heinschel of the SPG mio to turn it into SPG
add 2 secondary HMG and either extra mg/easy maintenance/extra ammo
if you keep this as a regular medium tank, you don't need to upgrade the radio and only need to upgrade the armamaent then

[indigo sapphire]

should i make Real life templates with the current hoi4 land units

[dusty sandal]

I wouldn't recommend it

[wide mirage]

this is what i did

[indigo sapphire]

why not?

[analog maple]

guys is it bad to only start making tabks at 1939 as germany? with those tanks'

[dusty sandal]

it's fine, just change the MIO (will work very well but isn't perfect)

[dusty sandal]

it's a good design but you don't need the armor clicks to be fair

[wide mirage]

whats mio

[dusty sandal]

most historical templates are abysmal dogshit in hoi4 (see the "historical" tank divisions and tank brigades used by uk, germany and france)

[dusty sandal]

the thing you assigned abouve the engine and armor clicks

[wide mirage]

it just gives slight boost, no debuffs

[dusty sandal]

use henschel for most stats, use the SPG one if you turn the tank into an SPG

[dusty sandal]

there are traits you add afterwards, Henschell is by far the best for tanks
the SPG one is broken and will give absurd stats to SPGs as well

[indigo sapphire]

OH Alr

[wide mirage]

so do i go with henschell?

[dusty sandal]

if you keep this tank as a medium tank, yes

in the trait list, aim for the traits that give soft attack first

[indigo sapphire]

should i just use the normal templates

[indigo sapphire]

@dusty sandal

[analog maple]

thx but what "armor clicks"?

[dusty sandal]

the armor bonuses you add at the bottom right under "armor" with "+" and "-"

[dusty sandal]

use normal hoi templates but most starting templates are bad
there is no starting template that doesn't need some modifications

[indigo sapphire]

alr

[wide mirage]

genuinely what do i do here

mefo bills man

[indigo sapphire]

how should i utilise the current Hoi4 land units? @dusty sandal

[dusty sandal]

well, if you have nothing else, yes
otherwise I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to get me to answer to

[indigo sapphire]

well

i just wanna do more better hoi4 templates

[dusty sandal]

take the base german infantry, add support AA and that's good holding inf
for tanks, do you have no step back DLC ?

[indigo sapphire]

yes i do

[dusty sandal]

in the pinned comments, first image is the tank div you should use then (it's only SPG with amtracks, just use mechanized and cavalry until you get enough mechanized. Don't use motorized it's a waste)

[indigo sapphire]

alr

[bronze grove]

Are you on civilian eco or what?

[wide mirage]

no i fixed it

[edgy mesa]

any1 got a medium tank template i can copy?

[wide mirage]

made 0 decisions

is this a good airforce?

[hasty belfry]

What are the best grand and sub doctrine picks for a run where I merely need to hold land, and not attack at all?

[dusty sandal]

tank designer dlc or no dlc ?

[edgy mesa]

yes

[dusty sandal]

guh?

yes DLC I suppose ?

[edgy mesa]

yeah lol

[dusty sandal]

then refer to this #ask-for-help-here message

[edgy mesa]

aight thx

[atomic crag]

Cool so why would i do this if i don't get cores?

[glacial steeple]

you annex them

why do you want puppets

[indigo sapphire]

@glacial steeple hello

[compact violet]

Helpp

I need some advice how to win the Spanish civil war

[alpine raven]

Guys can somebody explain to me how airforce works,also i need some help on divison desing and orders,im new so ill really appreciate it,thank you so much^^

[atomic crag]

Because garrisons and resistance

[indigo sapphire]

should i make a couple Few ranger templates

like fireteam squad section platoon troop company regiment battalion

[torn ore]

Hello! i havent played the game in a year or two, i have it on the Xbox thing, does nayone know how i can update it?

im on v1.13.7 rn

[fierce idol]

if I take poland as germany without doing molotov ribbentrop, how long do I have before the USSR tries to murder me?

[hollow linden]

They don't

They will just sit there lol

U can delay barb as long as you want, they won't attack you

[fierce idol]

oh wow

so how many divisions do I need to reliably take france, without suffering supply shortages from stacking on the belgian border?

[glacial steeple]

take luxemburg

[hollow linden]

120 inf is fine and don't ignore Luxembourg

[glacial steeple]

block off english channel

[hollow linden]

And yea maybe don't stack your entire army on 1 border

If Bad supply, remove some units

[fluid verge]

i have a very specific question - is there a way to make a cheap unit that basically takes no damage

[hollow linden]

Define "no damage"

Cuz that's basically impossible

[fluid verge]

next to no damage

[hollow linden]

Then it's not gonna be cheap

You need a lot of hp

To be functionally immortal

And that's always a large unit

Small units just take more damage

That's the way it is

[glacial steeple]

yeah

[fluid verge]

ive been trying to play as carpathian ruthenia in rt56 and since theres like a province bug i cant move my regular infantry units out of a tile due to a terrain bug where the ai just constantly attacks me from impassable terrain so i cant really save myself in time

[glacial steeple]

50w mech on massmob indiv excellence with sup logi

[hollow linden]

💀

Jesus

[fluid verge]

i need something i can produce on a budget hence why i mention it

[glacial steeple]

thats a vanilla bug too

[fluid verge]

i cant get an agency due to literally not having enough places to build civs in

and basically this is where i end up

[atomic crag]

Integrated china now i have -300 coal

I don't get why I'd do that if i don't get cores

Now i have 4 million men in reserve but growing resistance in china + 0 coal

[fluid verge]

i mean what strats do i go for at this point

if i get this bug and basically get deadlocked by the AI

[hollow linden]

Don't play. It's a challenge not meant to be played

[fluid verge]

i thought of building super crappy tanks

[hollow linden]

I gotta ask though, what was your game plan?

[fluid verge]

with a lot of defense

[fluid verge]

cobble up in a few tiles and wait it out

[hollow linden]

Do you have a formable to achieve or are you just gonna sit there until the allies save you

[hollow linden]

If you wanna stack defense, tanks are the worst choice

Do mech

[fluid verge]

somehow get control of western ukraine and then go from there to get more participation

[hollow linden]

Lots of hp lots of defense

[fluid verge]

i do have a formable i can do

and cores i can take

[hollow linden]

Hmm, tried unhistorical and get Ukraine to declare independence via 2nd Russian civil war

[hollow linden]

And those are?

[fluid verge]

but i can get more once i control kyiv i think

[fluid verge]

can i somehow rush mechs before 39?

[marble solstice]

I have 200+ hours but this is my first game as the USSR and ive been pushed past Moscow and im at a bit of a stalemate with the germans

[fluid verge]

id still need crappy infantry to hold the line with hungary

and then once germans hop in id get my mech guys in

but would it just be a pure mech template?

[hollow linden]

Ye? It's doable in 38

Start researching Jan 38 and get any motorised buffs you can

[fluid verge]

id have to get some crappy tanks in it, no?

[hollow linden]

Nah

Tanks are the worst choice here

Yea this is rough

[fluid verge]

i found this in a luxembourg vid

https://youtu.be/2ey_bV61GjA

[fluid verge]

SPGs i mean

or SPAA

[hollow linden]

Doesn't matter both is shit

[fluid verge]

eventually id need to counterattack them tho

[hollow linden]

Well spgs might not be

Light spgs aren't

They're even better now

[fluid verge]

spgs?

[hollow linden]

So ye try that actually

[fluid verge]

with the new doctrines hmm

i can get two fully equipped units for free

but those would be infantry

and uh id still have to somehow wait it out till hungary goes in or rush the techs

[hollow linden]

For doctrines I'd go irregulars, self propelled support, streamlined deployment and desperate measures

[fluid verge]

i dont get any boosts to researching mech specifically but trucks

[hollow linden]

That's the same thing

[fluid verge]

oh

[hollow linden]

Trucks are in the same line as mech

[dusty sandal]

tanks for lux hold isn't a good idea, you're gonna run out of fuel real fast

[hollow linden]

Well watch the video

Any conventional wisdom goes out the window here

[fluid verge]

i can get this

like really soon

[hollow linden]

Oh it's model specific though

Could be a problem

[marble solstice]

I have 200+ hours but this is my first game as the USSR and ive been pushed past Moscow and im at a bit of a stalemate with the germans

[fluid verge]

i mean theres also the mechanization focus underneath

[hollow linden]

I don't see a problem

Ur still holding no

[fluid verge]

why are your armies overstacked tho

[hollow linden]

Oh ye get that

[hollow linden]

I see that someone didn't build east of the urals

[fluid verge]

what template do i do for mechs tho

[marble solstice]

This is my first game playing USSR

[hollow linden]

The same as hatless did prob

[fluid verge]

minus the SPGs?

[hollow linden]

It's essentially the same situation

[fluid verge]

just all mech

[hollow linden]

No no with the spgs

[marble solstice]

I dont really know what to do as the soviets

[hollow linden]

Those are your only means of dealing damage

[fluid verge]

he only had the spg template

[fluid verge]

what are your deficits

[hollow linden]

Just do that template

U don't need 2

Just make the one

[fluid verge]

one mech battalion?

[hollow linden]

Ye

[fluid verge]

lol

[marble solstice]

but my supply is bad

[hollow linden]

Remove any line arty from your divs

[fluid verge]

i wonder if that could even work

[hollow linden]

Build up rails and hubs

[marble solstice]

k

[hollow linden]

I mean it did for hatless so

It's a similar situation

And hardness is important here

Since AI doesn't have much hard attack

[fluid verge]

i feel like my strat with infantry could work if that terrain bug wasnt so bad

[marble solstice]

this is my div

[hollow linden]

Yea this is ass

Remove line arty and 1 inf

[marble solstice]

k

[hollow linden]

Show doctrines too

[hollow linden]

Much better

Research logistics and add them too

[marble solstice]

im already doing that

[hollow linden]

Good

[marble solstice]

i did desperate defense just for the manpower

I lost 4M

[fluid verge]

should i design spgs at some point for damage

[marble solstice]

so i needed the extra manpower

[hollow linden]

Ouch. So first off all, mass mob grand doctrine is ass. Do sfp if infantry and gbp if tanks. Streamlined deployment is best here and choose grand assault for operations

[hollow linden]

Uh yes?

Make them as cheap as possible. Like 3 man turret, csg and break modules

[fluid verge]

so i just spam a bunch of 1 battalion mechanized units

for now

[serene karma]

💀

[hollow linden]

That's not gonna do a whole lot

[marble solstice]

I changed the grand doctrine but I cant put any else rn

[hollow linden]

Just wait until you can make the template

[fluid verge]

isnt that literally what you said

and now youre saying dont do that

[hollow linden]

What did I say

[fluid verge]

.

[compact violet]

Guys, i need advice how to win the Spanish civil war as the carlist

[hollow linden]

Oh I thought for the general template, not if you should use it or not

MB I got it wrong

No don't use 2w mech. Please never do that

[fluid verge]

yeah i was like "you sure about that?"

[hollow linden]

Wait until you can make the entire thing

[fluid verge]

like that exact template ye?

i think he used medium spgs

[hollow linden]

Lights should work fine too

Cuz you probably cant afford mediums

[fluid verge]

i got starting czech techs

[hollow linden]

Just use interwar chassis

Chassis doesn't matter

[fluid verge]

oh

i mean in this case right

[hollow linden]

No just in general

It matters slightly more now with attriton changes

[fluid verge]

i thought making IW chassis stuff was bad

[hollow linden]

But only in specific cases like barb for the Soviets

Otherwise you can get away with basic for everything

[hollow linden]

The only thing that changes is reliability

And that only matters if you fight for a very long time without pause in no supply zones

Like barb

If u just sit in 3 tiles it doesn't matter

[fluid verge]

i thought chassis gave more stats tho

not just reliability

like breakthrough

armor

[hollow linden]

It doesn't

Armor and rel changes

Break doesn't

[fluid verge]

but it does here?

speed and armor improvements

[hollow linden]

Oh speed woooow

Nothingburger

Like all of these things are so irrelevant

Speed doesn't matter, armor doesn't matter, rel matters maybe in specific situations

[marble solstice]

I just realised why my supply is so low

[hollow linden]

Not worth losing efficiency for

[fluid verge]

do i build forts this time

or nah

[hollow linden]

Up to lvl2 is good

[marble solstice]

I have basically no railways...

[hollow linden]

If you have engineer it's an extra 35% defense

[hollow linden]

Hmmmm

Wonder why

[marble solstice]

is this good?

@hollow linden

[fluid verge]

cheapest SPG possible ye?

just so long it has good soft attack

[hollow linden]

Use OKMO and do diesel engine, and make it an spg

[hollow linden]

Yea

[marble solstice]

it is diesel

[hollow linden]

MB gasoline

[marble solstice]

k

[hollow linden]

Add extra ammo for free break

And use wheeled suspension

3 man turret is a must

Csg for the gun

[marble solstice]

the allies have failed D-Day landings like 5 times in my game

they are so icompetent

[fluid verge]

i thought you said i should do a fixed superstructure

or something

[hollow linden]

What

When did I say that 💀

[fluid verge]

i mightve misread

[hollow linden]

You did

[fluid verge]

lol

what was extra ammo again

[hollow linden]

No no you're not using howitzer

[fluid verge]

do u just get it as base tank tech

[hollow linden]

Yes

[fluid verge]

isnt howitzer the one that gives u the most soft attack tho

[hollow linden]

Well yea but it's expensive and superstructure is ass

[marble solstice]

is this what you meant?

[hollow linden]

Yes

[marble solstice]

k

[hollow linden]

Oh max out armor and engine clicks

Very important

[marble solstice]

but the reliability

[fluid verge]

oh

[light knoll]

why do engine clicks matter?

[fluid verge]

medium cannon them?

[marble solstice]

cannon is for mulitplayer mostly

use howitzer

its better since the AI makes either bad tanks or no tanks

[glacial steeple]

you can use HV2 if its for piercing meme + break

[glacial steeple]

huh what about it

[marble solstice]

50 reliability

[glacial steeple]

youre using advanced chassis thats crazy

[glacial steeple]

it doesnt matter but 100 relia tanks are for braindead gameplag

gameplay*

[marble solstice]

oh

[glacial steeple]

just change suspension and engine

[hollow linden]

Break

[glacial steeple]

like it only matters when attritioning

so low supply, going through mountains

[hollow linden]

Rel is a fake stat

[glacial steeple]

jungles

[hollow linden]

No, use close support gun

It's a light gun that allows the spg role

[fluid verge]

but thats expensive

[hollow linden]

Also wrong

[marble solstice]

?

[hollow linden]

Mc is the worst gun

U dont use mc for anything

[marble solstice]

I mean cannon in general

[hollow linden]

You use heavy tds and use hv3

[hollow linden]

Big difference when talking about medium and heavy cannons

Mc is bad. HC and HV is good

[marble solstice]

should I use tds in sinlgeplayer?

[hollow linden]

No

Not necessary

[marble solstice]

heavy tanks?

[hollow linden]

AI doesn't do tanks

[hollow linden]

Nah

Mediums are fine

[marble solstice]

SPAA?

bc I normally put SPAA in some of my infantry divisions for attacking

[light knoll]

self propelled arty

max out soft atk

[glacial steeple]

AA in 1.17 sucks

cas is so good now

make air if you can

[marble solstice]

ah, alr

[glacial steeple]

they buffed org damage like 200%

[light knoll]

still work fine enough against the ai

[marble solstice]

also since I dont have much mils rn should I make a fighter/cas plane to do both?

[glacial steeple]

no

just make fighters then

[marble solstice]

k

[glacial steeple]

who are you playing

like some nations cannot make air

[cold garnet]

turns out you need to fill air width still

[glacial steeple]

no tech/no alu/no rubber combo

[cold garnet]

once that happens air damage is giga ton

[glacial steeple]

yeah so you should do air

[indigo sapphire]

should i make a couple few RANGER templates

[light knoll]

rangers are pretty good yes

[indigo sapphire]

alr

[fluid verge]

christie you mean

[marble solstice]

im playing soviets but most of my industry was captured

[glacial steeple]

ah

[fluid verge]

or bogie suspension

[glacial steeple]

that just means you didnt make enough eco in the first place

[hollow linden]

No no I mean wheeled

[glacial steeple]

collabs on baltics, five year plan

[hollow linden]

The one where you get - 20% IC

[marble solstice]

its my first time playing soviets

[hollow linden]

Yea use Something called the kursk line. Don't build anything west of kursk

[fluid verge]

all the other ones add IC

[marble solstice]

just like a massive line of forts from kursk?

[hollow linden]

Theres one where you get IC reduction

[hollow linden]

No I meant your industry

Don't build your factories west of Kursk

[marble solstice]

oh

[fluid verge]

only bogie suspension has no extra IC

do i just spam smoke launchers

[hollow linden]

Extra ammo is better

[fluid verge]

i forgot if they reworked reliability again so you cant have like 50 reliability tanks

[hollow linden]

Theres a different tab no

[fluid verge]

that gives extra cost

[hollow linden]

Wheeled and non wheeled suspension

[hollow linden]

It doesn't?

What

[indigo sapphire]

i already made a couple Few ranger templates like fireteam squad section platoon company regiment and battalion

[hollow linden]

Is r56 special?

[fluid verge]

wait i used extra ammo im stupid

[hollow linden]

Are you designing a light tank

[fluid verge]

wrong icon i looked at

[fluid verge]

no IW medium SPG

[hollow linden]

Yea it's light exclusive

Hence I said use a light tank

[fluid verge]

o ok

[hollow linden]

Yea make this a light tank

[fluid verge]

IW or basic

[glacial steeple]

it doesnt

[fluid verge]

i mixed them up

smoke launchers do give extra ic cost

[hollow linden]

IW

[fluid verge]

is reliability still a fake stat

[hollow linden]

Yep

[fluid verge]

or was it reworked

[hollow linden]

I yapped about it above

[fluid verge]

i remember the threshold being like 60% for mediums

[dull flicker]

Does Naval Bombers ignore ships speed?

[hollow linden]

That's fake

[glacial steeple]

they did remove rounding

now its just kinda flat

[hollow linden]

Like, the only time it matters is when you fight for extended period of time, in bad supply without pause

[glacial steeple]

but thats not whats important anyway

[hollow linden]

That's very rarely the case

[glacial steeple]

whats important is just not attritioning for fun

[fluid verge]

i remember seeing some kind of table for attrition thresholds

like when it would actually become bad

[fluid verge]

i mean id be stuck in 3 tiles

most likely juggling units

if they let me

[hollow linden]

See that's fine

[fluid verge]

and im in the mountains too

well, two hills and one mountain tile

[hollow linden]

Yea so here's the thing. If you dont take attrition it's never gonna come up and you always lose something

So if you lose one tank at 80% and 2 at 20% doesn't justify the investment

[fluid verge]

so id only lose stuff if i have no supply

which at that point youll still lose shit

[hollow linden]

Yea

[glacial steeple]

where are we fighting

peru??

[hollow linden]

So no rel is not worth the investment most of the time

[hollow linden]

Carpathian ruthenia

[glacial steeple]

thats just like the peru-chile border

except you just pull back

[fluid verge]

peru but in ukraine

[glacial steeple]

so you can easily encircle your enemies

youre not gonna push through that gap

[glacial steeple]

unless theres like nothing there

[fluid verge]

what else do i add

or remove

[marble solstice]

should I build forts in the USSR?

[hollow linden]

Yea remove the hmg

It's pointless

[fluid verge]

why

[hollow linden]

Nah

Your front is too long

[marble solstice]

im starting a new game

to better prepare

[hollow linden]

Too expensive for little gain

[fluid verge]

do i just make it smoke launchers

[marble solstice]

im starting a new game

[fluid verge]

i mean

extra ammunition storage

[hollow linden]

What?

[fluid verge]

damn it they look too similar

like this

[hollow linden]

Ye

[fluid verge]

i guess the point is to just have good soft attack and breakthrough

the rest comes from mech i suppose

no armor/engine ticks no?

[marble solstice]

Im starting a new game as the soviets so should I still build forts or not?

[hollow linden]

I said no

[marble solstice]

ok

[hollow linden]

Read what I say

[fluid verge]

or should add some engine ticks like hatless did

tho he used a medium IW

[marble solstice]

i thought you were implying that I were still in the first game

[fluid verge]

or actually a 38 medium chassis

[hollow linden]

No just don't build forts as sov

[marble solstice]

ok

[hollow linden]

Armor clicks probably aren't bad

But like, kinda expensive

You can do without

[fluid verge]

why would i do irregulars tho i dont think i can train those

also do i go SFP or GBP in this case

[hollow linden]

It's for the manpower

[hollow linden]

Sfp

[fluid verge]

i thought only DD gave manpower

[hollow linden]

Nope

Irregulars is an extra 2%

[fluid verge]

this template ye?

[fluid verge]

oo i see

isnt that towards the very end of it tho

[hollow linden]

Ye

[hollow linden]

Still

[fluid verge]

should i add AA to it or

[hollow linden]

Nothing else is really useful there

[hollow linden]

Maybe

[fluid verge]

like AA support company

idk if i can afford it rn

i have 3 mils lol

ill just do this for now

[slate cedar]

are the 2 newest dlcs worth getting?

[hollow linden]

Nah

Waste of money

[tribal skiff]

For Finland starting from -36, what would be the best doctrine combo? I am thinking Superior firepower, then either Large unit tactics or Great War infantry for infantry sub-doctrine, and Desperate Defence or Grand Assault for Operations? Am I completely off here?

[slate cedar]

alright thank you

[hollow linden]

Sfp, large unit tactics or irregulars, mobile recon, streamlined deployment grand assault/desperate defense

Depends on how bad you Need manpower

[tribal skiff]

Oh, does Finland get militia like Suojeluskunta? Or is it a focus dependant?

[hollow linden]

No clue

But irregulars give an extra 2% pop

[tribal skiff]

Hm, I don't see any mention of Militia in the focus tree, at least. And there are other ways to increase recruitable population, so woudn't Irregulars be a little wasteful? Anyways, I will look it up

[hollow linden]

I mean if you don't need it then just use large unit tactics

Finland is simply limited by manpower so an Extra 2% is kinda huge

[marble solstice]

should I put SPGs in my infantry divisions?

[tribal skiff]

True, that. In my last playthrough I used desperate defence and had too much manpower and too little equipment for them...

[austere roost]

Yes it's better than artillery

And when you have enough ic you can replace inf with motor/mech inf

[fluid verge]

what doctrines do i go down

sfp and uh

wait i think u said which ones

[austere roost]

11.4 org, 35 hp. Your division will melt in combat

[fluid verge]

.

[fluid verge]

ok

watch this video https://youtu.be/2ey_bV61GjA

its a very specific situation

[austere roost]

He's Luxembourg

He has 11 factories. How many factories do you have?

In any serious run you would want 36 width SPG divisions with 10 spgs

[scenic nacelle]

Interesting

[fluid verge]

and i am carpathian ruthenia

which is basically just as bad as luxembourg

so i have to resort to very unorthodox strategies

[scenic nacelle]

No it’s better

[fluid verge]

like ever so slightly

[scenic nacelle]

Did u release yourself as Ukraine in that province?

[fluid verge]

in vanilla itd be much easier due to no impassable terrian

[scenic nacelle]

Or just that country in that province

[austere roost]

He also has > 30 armor while you have 8

[fluid verge]

yeah i released myself from CZE and i can form ukraine

[fluid verge]

go tell whoever told me to make IWs to commit [REDACTED], not me

besides, breakthrough exists

[austere roost]

So you're attacking?

[fluid verge]

nope

but it also works on defense

[austere roost]

No

When you're defending breakthrough is a useless stat

You need defense for that

[fluid verge]

they also give defense

[austere roost]

If you're ruthenia then you'll have to design things for your ic. Maybe slowly upgrade your spgs as you get a lot of xp

And put in more mechs so you get more hp

[fluid verge]

you do realise i cant get more than like 4 mils

for a very long time

[austere roost]

Wait

You should at least get maintenance company

[stray trellis]

Can I still deathstack U boats and win naval battels?

[austere roost]

So you steal way more equipment

[fluid verge]

i dont think ill be able to renew mechs or SPGS that way

i can just scam AI with lend lease

which im already doing

[austere roost]

If you mean fleet submarines then yes, just remember to set engagement rules to always fight and maximize sub visibility buffs

[austere roost]

The more other equipment you steal the less factories you need for guns, support equipment, etc

[fluid verge]

i need to make mechs and SPGs the most tho

light chassis spgs are just cheaper to make

[fluid verge]

so what do you suggest, make IW medium chassis spgs instead with armor ticks?

[hollow linden]

Uh no don't do that. You don't capture the amount of IC you spend

It's not worth the support equipment

[slate plover]

can some one help me i am trying to invade the uk but idk how to pls help :(

[fluid verge]

which ones do i do

[oak jasper]

So, I pulled a little Operation Torch to clear up the Axis from North Africa. I now have a very long, skinny front, facing a number of what is likely direly under-supplied Axis divisions.

Uh, I just now saw there's a good chunk of territory called "Algerian Desert" with the note "Troops may not enter". Do I just push south and obliterate all the remaining Axis divisions?

[scenic nacelle]

North Africa is all u need

[oak jasper]

I rambled a bit, but basically I was dreading having to chase Axis divisions deep into the Saharan desert and overextending. But, if I'm guessing right, they can't retreat into the Sahara?

[scenic nacelle]

They can’t

[fluid verge]

didnt work lol

i only added AA and i dont think hatless changed his template

[hollow linden]

hmm maybe back to inf

[oak jasper]

Thank God for that, because there's an awful lot of desert I was afraid I'd have to chase technically-not-dead divisions into.

[silk canopy]

you have 10 org bro...

[fluid verge]

inf is useless because of that terrain bug

[fluid verge]

it worked for someone else

[silk canopy]

what is this challenge anyway?

[fluid verge]

the point is to deorg the enemy quicker than they can deorg you

so they never ever deplete your bar that low for org to even matter

[hollow linden]

Which one?

[fluid verge]

carpathian ruthenia

[fluid verge]

the one where the enemy keeps attacking for like 1 tick and then stopping from impassable terrain

[hollow linden]

Does that deal damage

[fluid verge]

no but stuns my units and makes it impossible to fill in gaps when needed

i get like 17 units stuck in one tile bc of it

[hollow linden]

You can force retreat no

[fluid verge]

no

thye just get stunlocked

i can send a save right before my inf run died, im not sure if itll load but all i had was rt56, fps map, some radio stations and thats it

[ebon nymph]

can you beat germans without planes?

[fluid verge]

yes

just put support AA in ur div

or just build AA in states

[fluid verge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/691052214378168369/1458463883508580475/2026-01-07_16-12-18.mp4?ex=695fbbd6&is=695e6a56&hm=f9d3113ef325d6fe22f22c7fbc4f70725a2e17d7e0f73427f622c238edb2e8c7&

like here i recorded it

i sent them to go to another province and they wont

[median thicket]

i give my units commands but after a few second later they just decide to move another tile is there a reason

[scenic nacelle]

Means they have an automatic order

Like a frontline or fallback

[quasi dust]

is there like a live power ranking of the countries? like generally in history, people would have had a rough idea of the strength of the brazilian armed forces vs portugal

[karmic terrace]

Anyone know how to reduce focus time for only the player

[summer nymph]

you can use "focus.autocomplete" in console commands and instantly receive the focus you click on, then just disable it by typing it again; that's the closest thing I'm aware of.

[karmic terrace]

I know about that, but there is a way to actually reduce focus time

[summer nymph]

If there is I don't know of it

[karmic terrace]

i figured it out

[summer nymph]

what was the solution?

[karmic terrace]

Oops

Not the most efficient one but you just go to files and edit the times for the country you want to play before you start the game, aswell as making a copy so you can just delete when you finish the playthrough

And it wont effect the ai much

[inner mountain]

is this bugged?

[sturdy river]

anyone know if theres away to put the arrow keys to wasd?

[summer nymph]

First time playing as France, is it a good idea to release most/all of the Africa/Indochina as puppets right away?

[fathom thistle]

If you don't want to deal with africa front against italy sure

[unreal kernel]

Which do you guys recommend for USSR Historical? Concentrated Industry or Dispersed?

[sand ember]

Concentrated 100%

no question

[unreal kernel]

The Production growth is dogcrap right?

So it's a must go

[bronze grove]

No.

Neither concentrated or dispersed gives production efficiency growth buff

I don't know what you are on about.

[glacial steeple]

thats unrelated

[wide mirage]

i got hte new mod but the navy system just seems just bad, i cant get naval superiority, i cant invade britain

[dusty sandal]

if anything the navy system makes more sense now (it also prevents Navy teleporting around the world)
you need ships on patrol to create supremacy, then ships in port with strike force multiply that supremacy

[wide mirage]

i need like 50k supremacy points

to naval invasion

i get like max 5

[stray trellis]

Has Greece even a Monarchi tree?

to create the Byzantine empire?

[austere roost]

yes it's the fascist tree

[austere roost]

do we have calculations for it?

[hollow linden]

I dont have any on hand, but in my experience its not any good

[unreal kernel]

Why is concentrated better in USSR's scenario? I kinda want to know the reasons behind the choices... 🥺

[silk canopy]

More factory output outweighs the advantages of dispersed

[austere roost]

Concentrated is always better because higher cap and output

[bronze grove]

Dispersed has more IC output at the start because of higher efficiency base but concentrated quickly catches on then surpasses it

[bronze grove]

Neither gives efficiency cap or growth bruh

Dispersed gives retention + base

[austere roost]

I was thinking about mytischy

[unreal kernel]

Thank you very much my fellow Ministers of Defense

You guys are awesome

I'm going full concentrated here

[scenic nacelle]

It’s more memey than good imo

And we all know memey makes it good

[hollow linden]

Cap isnt higher with conc, its just more output

[subtle rune]

I need Beta Testers for a new mod i'm making. Dm me so i can add you on steam (it's a closed alpha)

[austere roost]

Yeah I was drifting to mios

[hollow linden]

And there are cases for disp

[glacial steeple]

higher prod cap

the buffs mean more if your cap is high

if your cap is low and your other production outour bonuses are high then dispersed is good

[scenic nacelle]

I got this with maintenance companies

Like 6-8 of them

[glacial steeple]

if you have the base bonuses dispersed is better for a year

and after a year of a mil being active conc is better

i know

[silk canopy]

Oh I see what you meant

[bronze geyser]

guys, when i modify a division, the divisions that are already deployed get the changes as well?
or only the ones that i deploy after the change?

idk if im being clear

[hollow linden]

Every division with that template updates

The equipment will them be transferred automatically into the divs

[bronze geyser]

oh so i don't need to change divisions then

[hollow linden]

Nah

[bronze geyser]

ty ty

[fringe phoenix]

can someone help me with my naval invasion into britain?

[shut edge]

Ok, this may sound like a dumb question but im trying to get my ships over to the uk but they dont have range to get there. I have port access to spain but I cant actually dock them there. Anyway I can get past the red barrier?

[scenic nacelle]

Ur home base is Cuba

[bronze geyser]

it's quite hard to get naval dominance vs uk ngl

[austere roost]

You'll need to build a fleet unless you're Japan/USA

[bronze geyser]

i'd say it's easier to use paratroopers

[austere roost]

Get 4 carriers with maxed out hangers and nothing else and then roach bb roach cl roach dd and then get carrier naval bombers with best torpedoes and you should be fine

[fringe phoenix]

nah i can get naval dominance i can just barely land on one port but then my army get completely destroyed

[bronze geyser]

on your naval make sure to have naval invasion support on, i think will be easier

[austere roost]

use cas