ask-for-help-here

[vital radish]

My bad

[hexed parcel]

I dont know if its 44 ships cause I build new templates and stuff

[uncut narwhal]

you even build new ships and dont get supremacy?

[hexed parcel]

I even destroyed a lot of ship near Denmark cause for some reason I couldn't get navel supremacy their at the start

[hexed parcel]

Yeah

[uncut narwhal]

damn

then just build naval bombers

and call in italy

[hexed parcel]

I did Italy i called as soon as I invaded France

[hexed parcel]

I think i need better designs for planes

Cause I keep using and upgrading small aircraft design

[uncut narwhal]

the meta fighter and cas designs

are pinned in this channel

[hexed parcel]

Whats the most meta design ?

Oh

Gonna check that

[uncut narwhal]

also add cannons to the first plane

[hexed parcel]

I dont see plane designs

[uncut narwhal]

look for air design

or plane design

click on that

in the pinned

[hexed parcel]

Its just inf templates in pins

Oh okay found it

Just 2 templates from 1 yesr ago

Its same since then?

[uncut narwhal]

yea

[devout lintel]

what are good doctrines

for defend

core

[hexed parcel]

Is that medium plane? Looks same as small one

[uncut narwhal]

its the small one

improved small airframe

[hexed parcel]

Does medium had better stat ?

[uncut narwhal]

medium is better for nav bombers

but not for fighters/cas

[hexed parcel]

Oh okay

Well thank you and I will see if I can navel invade properly this time

[tropic wolf]

I just have a question is prioritize economic growth germany strong I mostly see people pick mefo bills?

[wet topaz]

Mediums onto for usa

[wet topaz]

No it’s much worse than right side

[uncut narwhal]

not for late game

[karmic terrace]

4 year plan is stroger economic growth is easier

[wet topaz]

Until 1942

[wintry matrix]

MEFO bills has one goal:
Autarky.
If you don't really have a plan how to achieve it and you don't want to do too much conquering, PE Growth is kind of more safe in that regard.

[wet topaz]

Which then game is over

[uncut narwhal]

not if you play non-hist

[wet topaz]

IC past 42 is kinda fake anyways

[wet topaz]

It’s a bunch of ifs and stuff that u bring up

In general 4 yr plan

[tropic wolf]

Thanks

[uncut narwhal]

so kinda not

[uneven terrace]

someone has a mp guide walkthrough for france, germany,soviet union or italy? if yes would you be so kind to send me the guide :3

[lyric geyser]

Watch Segls videos there isn’t really any mp guides on those nations but Segl gives meta tank designs support companies strategies etc

[uneven terrace]

yeah i did but some of his vids are outdated or are not specific enough

for example i dont what focuses to do as france or where to build facs

[vital radish]

Like country specific maybe bittersteel but most of his stuf is not meta or outdated so idk

[fiery canyon]

hey yall im kinda new to this game anyone care to teach me how to play?

[lyric geyser]

It depends on the build you can do fastgame if you want to be a Jerk and build in mainland but the main build is North Africa mainly if you think axis will lose Africa instantly or central Africa if axis seems competent

[vital radish]

Would love to but i'm not home

[karmic terrace]

I would also love to but Im also not home

But just try playing germany and feel free to dm me questions whenever

[uneven terrace]

do i build anything in mainland?

[lyric geyser]

But yeah there isn’t really many videos on meta guides unfortunately

[fiery canyon]

oh well next time ig

[lyric geyser]

Nothing unless you want to do a fastgame build

[uneven terrace]

okay

[fiery canyon]

unfortunate, thank you though

[lyric geyser]

fastgame is killing axis without mainland falling

If you think you will fall build in Africa

[karmic terrace]

Cant stress enough how good germany is for helping you learn

[vital radish]

You would just have to make your own or coop somoene that is playing it in mp to see what he is doing

As build

[lyric geyser]

France is pretty easy to play in casual mp

[fiery canyon]

how come? whats better about compared to other nations?

[lyric geyser]

Even in comp it isn’t to difficult

[uneven terrace]

do i build any civs?

[karmic terrace]

Simpler

[vital radish]

Uk also simple

[karmic terrace]

You dont have to worry about colonies and all your land is in one placr, you have a good industry and research etc

[lyric geyser]

Build a few for trade before war for once you capitulate like 4-8 but apart from that you want to build mills only

[fiery canyon]

oh okay

[karmic terrace]

Not as simple purely because of colonies and being an island

[uneven terrace]

Okay thank you bro

[lyric geyser]

It differs in level of competency tho ofc but that should be fine for like 99% of your games

[fiery canyon]

is four year plan or prioritize economic growth better

[karmic terrace]

Also just give it some time to learn, when I started playing I thought id wasted my money, after about 10 hours id learned all the basics

[karmic terrace]

PEG is easier and four year plan is strogg by er

[karmic terrace]

You see the establish autarky focus in four year plan?

That will give you a very powerful industry but you will need to conquer lots of land to do so

[fiery canyon]

autarky efforts you mean?

[karmic terrace]

Nk at the bottom

Bottom of autarky efforts line

[fiery canyon]

ohh autarky achieved?

[karmic terrace]

Yes

[fiery canyon]

i do

0% consumer goods is wild actually

whats the drawback?

[karmic terrace]

I almost always go for four year plan, you will end up with lots of resources ans buffs but its hard to do so Id go peg just while you learn how to do battles and conquer

[uncut narwhal]

4 year plan isnt hard

[karmic terrace]

Autarky achieved is hard to get

[karmic terrace]

Well yeah duh but its harder

[uncut narwhal]

yea but the build up you have is better

[karmic terrace]

Thats exactly what im saying

[uncut narwhal]

i only read your newest message so mb

[fiery canyon]

anyone in here who could jump into vc with me?

it'd help a lot

[karmic terrace]

Im explaining that for a new player who isnt familiar with the mechanics the rapid takeover required for autarky is harder than peg

[fiery canyon]

which special project should i do?

[uncut narwhal]

flame tanks and military engineering vehicle

[fiery canyon]

thanks

[dusty sandal]

flame tank is essential for assault units
MEV are good but not required in singleplayer
SHH are very good if you want infantry pushers or if you're aiming for the related doctrine

[soft jungle]

what is the best combat width with current meta for single player. I mosty want to use inf. human wave type thing

[fathom thistle]

36w for offense (with Large unit tactics 35.7w)

For defense 18w or 16w

[soft jungle]

thanks a lot

east india company army is going to flood the world

[devout lintel]

man i didnt declare war on finland bc i wouldt be botherd

BUTT

APPARNLY THEY CAN STILL DO THE CONTINUION WAR

EVEN THO I NEVER WARED THEM

[stuck flint]

i shall buy it now

[tepid umbra]

Steamhappy

[heady mesa]

What are the downsides of war economy compared to other ones?

[cold bloom]

Only coal use

[hasty belfry]

Is relentless assault or mass charge better for 18 width militia spam?

[heady mesa]

Is using 7/2 division efficient in PvE?

Oh and as a beginner is there a point in trying any mods?

[cold bloom]

Line artillery is largely obsolete I believe

[cold bloom]

You could add some smaller ones to fix peacedeals or simplify production etc.

[heady mesa]

Like?

[cold bloom]

I like uh, recall volunteers, unlimited dockyards, got some graphics mods and my own cheat mod to fix peacedeals

Vanilla should be fun for a while and then when you know how it works you can try big mods that overhaul it to a large degree

[heady mesa]

Yeah, I already saw some stuff I think could be changed, but what particular mods to try?

And another question, is there any logical explanation as to why large ships have 5 dockyards limit?

[cold bloom]

They want to limit how fast you can build them since they took years irl

itd be silly if you could pump one out in days just by having lots of dockyards

However when youre a strong nation, it just makes a mess of the production lines of ships youre gonna get anyway, so I use that mod I just listed to make the limit like 50 ^^

[hasty belfry]

Not as much as it was before NCNS.

[heady mesa]

Mod name?

[cold bloom]

Unlimited Dockyards

[heady mesa]

Alr

[alpine root]

Are Heavy or Medium Guns better on Heavy Tanks

[vast steppe]

Does someone know how to have soong mei ling as nationalist china

[humble siren]

Anyone know how to stop my game crashing about three new games I’ve started since the expansion pack and all three of them crashed around 1939-1941 I have no clue what’s causing it, I send the reports back to paradox but it’s really bugging me now I can’t player the game properly if knowing every game I start it’s just going to crash in mid game.

[rain bluff]

which path would be best if im bad at mefo bills

[karmic terrace]

Pick four year plan so you get better at mefo bills

[raw osprey]

can someone tell me why my map looks like this and how to fix it

[karmic terrace]

I think the moon in the bottom right

[raw osprey]

thanks ill try

[karmic terrace]

All the visuall settings are down there

[raw osprey]

for some reason i doesnt work

it

[karmic terrace]

Have you tried just clicking the infantry map button

[raw osprey]

yep

[karmic terrace]

Could be a glitch

[raw osprey]

ok thanks ig

[sterile hearth]

this is why in sp I just annex finland as sovs

[tawdry zodiac]

is motorised good with the new doctrine system?

[vital radish]

Decent i think

[tepid umbra]

not really

[devout lintel]

Yeah I can’t be bothered to fight Germans from 2 sides I will just puppet

[north quail]

uh when can i get organization todt

[north quail]

nvm

[vast steppe]

what is the best pat for non aligned nationalist china

[nocturne cloak]

@north quail YO

[north quail]

yoo

[north quail]

tf is this

[nocturne cloak]

watch it

[north quail]

how did he bag that

lmfao

[nocturne cloak]

the thing she said at the end lmao

[north quail]

i heard it lol

are you also on hoi

[nocturne cloak]

yeah i bet you hear that on the daily

[nocturne cloak]

not rn!

have a ron event

but hoi been so addicting lately

[north quail]

with sami?

lol

[nocturne cloak]

hell no

sami is terrible

@north quail Yo look behind you

[north quail]

?

[devout lintel]

@karmic terrace

dodyyyyyyyyyyyy

any offesinve templates for infantry?

[karmic terrace]

Hub

Huh

[devout lintel]

and aswell agressive

[karmic terrace]

Sure

[devout lintel]

love u man

also the defensive template u said works well

[karmic terrace]

This ones cook

[devout lintel]

i tested it for like uhh

[karmic terrace]

Cool

[devout lintel]

7 days in game

[devout lintel]

ok

i will try it out

[karmic terrace]

Dont need all of the support companies (engineering armour)

[devout lintel]

why not

[karmic terrace]

Cheaper and quicker so you can get more out

But if you can research engineering vehicles and produce enough of them by all means throw them in

[devout lintel]

ok

also i used 1 of ur defensive things

they hella expseinve

shit took me 3 years to pop out like 80 of them

This 1

But with anti tank support

and without the last line

idk how to get that many into it

[cerulean otter]

RIP the manpower

[devout lintel]

i got 10m

😭

[cerulean otter]

i have a 4 M + grave in peru 🙂

[devout lintel]

idk what grave is

but yep

[cerulean otter]

a cemetery

[supple jungle]

any good countries that are fun but not too challenging?

[alpine root]

Are Heavy TD's better than SPGs

[cobalt robin]

Hello Guys im playing Germany and when i Naval Invade the UK in Dover and Portsmouth it always gets constantly attacked and a few seconds later everyone dies how can i fix this

trying to naval invade to Hull and my navy is getting destroyed immediately in the north sea

[devout lintel]

Better navy

And naval bombers

[cobalt robin]

i have 1200 CAS just on Naval Strike

[devout lintel]

Cas…

Is not

Naval bombed a.

and also upgrade ur naval bombers

And ships

[cobalt robin]

and afghanistan wants me to invest oil to him every like 15 days

[devout lintel]

🙏

[neat widget]

a bit too large with 40 width

[cobalt robin]

btw where can i find the best designs because most are outdated

[devout lintel]

I’m misssing the bottom row

[devout lintel]

I don’t know

[neat widget]

Make it 38 width, add hospitals and signals, and then probably change the engineers for assault engineers and artillery for light flame tanks and then you're good to go

[devout lintel]

it’s defensive

[neat widget]

Also are you going large unit tactics

[devout lintel]

Nope

assault infantry

Gives most buffs for sup art

[idle arch]

What the focus order for ussr without NCNS

[karmic terrace]

Britiain fascism

[supple jungle]

ok

[devout lintel]

IN SLAUGHTERING THE NAZIS

@karmic terrace

What’s considered a core state

If I lose a tail in Ukraine is it considered core state

[karmic terrace]

Should be

Im pretty sure its land that belongs to you

[devout lintel]

U mean foreign claims

[karmic terrace]

Yes that

[devout lintel]

It’s Ukraine

it’s the foreign claim

[karmic terrace]

Native territ

Territory

[devout lintel]

so if I lose a territory from that

[karmic terrace]

Ukraine should be a core of soviet union

[devout lintel]

it’s foreign claim

So I can’t get no back

Or some

[karmic terrace]

I think you lose the core when yhey gain independence or become a puppet or whatever

Never looked into cores I usually just roll with it

[devout lintel]

Man

[pearl roost]

How much troops lost to Poland is considered a good amount? I'm litterally new to the game and I don't know if I'm doing any good

[devout lintel]

What

[pearl roost]

Like

[devout lintel]

u mean dead Germans?

[pearl roost]

Yeah, playing as Germany

[devout lintel]

anything below 100k I would assum it’s a decent start for neew players

[pearl roost]

It is litterally my first campaign

I lost 44k

[devout lintel]

well there u go

Ur next goal should be Poland and make German lose 1.6million troops to you before u capulited

[pearl roost]

But why do I have 2k fighters and 1k cas over Benelux and France and I still have red air?

Wtf am I doing wrong

[devout lintel]

bombers or fighters

[pearl roost]

Fighters

[idle arch]

Can someone pls tell me focus order for Ussr without NCNS i have all other dlcs

[north quail]

how do i take resources from puppets?

[stuck garnet]

Do you still have resource rights

[north quail]

i js puppeted them how do i check

?

[stuck garnet]

Peace conferrence

[north quail]

holy shit nvm

thx

i can trade with them for really cheap

[mossy flax]

hey guys what kind of unit templates would you make for a minor country

[gusty basalt]

im new to hoi4 does anyone know how i can win in europe as germany

nvm

[north quail]

start off with italy germany is hard for beginners

[gusty basalt]

ive played as italy i got crushed in ethiopia is that bad

[mossy flax]

yes

[gusty basalt]

damm

[mossy flax]

but keep at it you will get it

[gusty basalt]

thanks

[north quail]

throw your entire army at it

airforce too

watch a few vids

[mossy flax]

been years since i last played so im pretty much new again lol

[devout lintel]

@karmic terrace

the infantry sucks

other agressive infantry i can offensive i can use

[stuck garnet]

idk infantry isnt for offensive

[gray mist]

haven't been on the game in a long time WHY is the sea so bright

[stuck garnet]

infantry is for holding land

they're your land fillers

if you had a bunch of inf you could certainly try

but cas is good for stuff like that, and i'd honestly reccomend tanks

particularly medium tanks

[devout lintel]

could u send good tank offesinve temp then

as well as for air surpmacy

i bought all dlcs and idk tf to do

[stuck garnet]

this

[devout lintel]

i dont have none of that

i dont use thoses doctrines

[karmic terrace]

Infantry aint supposed to be offensive

I ususlly back mine with medium tanks

[stuck garnet]

"Offensive infantry" you cannot just produce one thing

infantry isn't a wrench you throw at your problems

if you really want all your divisions to be infantry then back them up with cas

better yet make calvary

[devout lintel]

any temps?

for tanks

then

offesinve ones

[karmic terrace]

Dont usually one specific template

[devout imp]

im playing kaiserreich, its september 1939 but world tension isnt high enough to start WW2, what do i do 😭

[karmic terrace]

Maybe google

[karmic terrace]

What should I produce then?

[stuck garnet]

Can you show me your industry?

National spirits just for a good idea

[karmic terrace]

Im not playing I mean generally

[stuck garnet]

Might uhh

I usually go with tanks

[karmic terrace]

I said that infantry when on offense should be backed with tabks

Tanks

[stuck garnet]

But mountaineers could be a good option iirc

[cerulean otter]

How do you fight this

[viscid vigil]

Air force

Cas bombers

[cerulean otter]

how many should ui need

[neat widget]

For Peru the coast matters the most

It's fine if you don't break through here if you break through elsewhere

[austere roost]

36 width combo of spgs, mechs, and one spaa. tank variants (spg, spaa, td) are now meta because both the artillery and tank branch can buff them

for supports, at least get flame tanks and engineers

[cerulean otter]

ive tried sea, i couldnt get the navy to do what they were supposed to

everytime i try to send a navy into enemy waters they just sit in the port

[alpine root]

Im having a dillema

Mobile Warfare Germany or GBP

Im going tanks

[nocturne cloak]

wow

arty

you were struggling against ethiopia once...

now youre teaching begginers...

youve come so far

[deep locust]

Should mountaineers be 25 width or just below 33

[idle arch]

Can someone help me with tank design

@nocturne cloak help me vro

[nocturne cloak]

Hi!

[idle arch]

Comrade help

[nocturne cloak]

I can try!

[idle arch]

What is meta medium tanks design

[nocturne cloak]

For SP?

[idle arch]

Yeah

[nocturne cloak]

I only do mp designs

[neat widget]

Check where they are based

Move that base to Santiago

Or actually Antofagasta

[gusty briar]

How exactly does the new naval Blockade mechanic work?

Playing japan I was blockaded by England and US, only at war with England though. I used patrols and had naval dominance in all the sea zones near my island which were showing red when the Blockade started, but I still didnt get my overseas resources, I look at the trade routes from supply view and some where red, but no where in the route had the x's which means that its interrupted in that zone? What can I do to counter it?

Once I capped the UK I got all my resources from my overseas territory, even though US was still blockading me.

[neat widget]

May this interest you

[rich dock]

how do i assign a commander

it is not letting me click any of them

[idle arch]

Where is casey bro

[idle arch]

Mediums

[sacred patrol]

What's better, civil war or electiond

[hasty belfry]

Could you meme with armored cav and make armored divisions using armored cars?

[stuck jewel]

How do I win as italy with just cavalry and irregular infantry/camicie nere

Armored cav?

[astral pumice]

Can someone tell me what focus I should do in order to remove incompetent army in ROC

Specifically (roadto56)

[icy maple]

How the hell do nukes work

I get my first one.

Tru and launch the raid. And even with air superiority and strat bombers, it just insta cancels and wastes command power

[alpine root]

Can I convert basic tanks to improved heavies

[devout lintel]

Don’t understand d half of it

[austere roost]

spg = self propelling gun (artillery variant of tanks)
mech = mechanized infantry
spaa = self propellign anti air (anti air variant of tanks)

it's not that hard

[hasty belfry]

Should I use the pre-dreadnoughts Germany starts with in my fleet or should I relegate them to reserve due to their low speed and short range?

Relegate them and the old torpedo boats to holding the Baltic.

Also, would armored cavalry be best for light tanks or should I stick with armored spearhead?

[neat widget]

That is indeed a medium

[neat widget]

Shore bombardment is nice

[hasty belfry]

Ahh.

Forgot about that.

Might have to put the Deutschland’s on that duty as well since they are pretty slow (a good 3 knots slower than their irl speed).

[trail reef]

how many countries can be controled by a member of the hapsburg

[sly estuary]

promote one of them

[trail reef]

the best one

[stuck flint]

Sturm tiger is coolee

R

Cooler

[neat widget]

Does this help

Honestly this one is lame

For a more serious design

[fossil rain]

someone explain why a facist country is in factino with a democratic country

like, I thought the new faction rework thing was supposed to fix ts

[warped knoll]

need help here

they’ve got supplies but are being pushed back

my troops

air is not horrible

@neat widget do you think i could naval invade uk from east north and north sea?

[neat widget]

You could

Just prepare well

[warped knoll]

what do i need

it’s just so hard to land

i set the points to hull and norwhich

[neat widget]

Probably hull and newcastle imo, cut the UK in half and prevent them from regrouping

also remember to send in your armies once you got that area

also

what is your marine template

and can you get your cas over northern england

[warped knoll]

i tried earlier w cavalry and some infantry

tried it 4 times

[neat widget]

the pins can help

[warped knoll]

wdym pins

[neat widget]

try something like this

[elder imp]

So I met the woman I'd like to marry and potentially spend the rest of my life with last week, and I was gifted this game yesterday (neither are jokes). Do I have to choose between playing this and getting to marry her one day or can I have both?

[tiny bough]

Trying to design a Light Tank AA but it doesn't seem to be possible with the Advanced AA gun. I'm guessing that's intended or am I doing something wrong?

[stuck flint]

@neat widget hold up

is the reason I keep losing as germany

is cause my economy is civlian

or does it change automatically when in war

[tiny bough]

No you need to change it manually

[pliant condor]

you can't possibly use it

because medium arnament requires fixed turret

which disallows aa role

[pliant condor]

😂 ok this is where you wanna go watch a videp

people can't teach you everything here

[tiny bough]

So I'd probably need a medium tank/turret to use advanced AA

[pliant condor]

but yes, you want to click war economy asap

you should never be on civilian unless you do prioritize economic growth for whatever reason

[pliant condor]

correct

[neat widget]

Yeah you're supposed to change that in 1936

[stuck flint]

OH MY LORD

IVE

NEVER DID THAT 😭

[stuck flint]

i think i missed that part in the video

legit I can understand naval air and land

b ut

I clearly

didnt realize my cilvian economy

was not gonna handle war

[reef solar]

why do I have no naval dominance?

[neat widget]

That's strange

It should work

[reef solar]

ik

im so confused

[neat widget]

Did you wait

It takes a few days

[reef solar]

been waiting for 6 months

my ships are there

but its like not counting

im still going into batt;es

[tiny bough]

Are you being contested?

[reef solar]

i mean yeah but its like a sub every couple days

[neat widget]

That's strange, your supremacy should increase

[tiny bough]

try reloading the game

[reef solar]

kk

[reef solar]

yep still not

some1 help 😭

[neat widget]

Reset your naval orders maybe

Try turning them off and then on again

[reef solar]

how

[tiny bough]

Do you have just that 1 big fleet patrolling there?

Because I'm thinking the enemy has a bigger presence there and just avoiding your ships and you can't find them because your spotting is too low because of all of those heavy ships. Try making a couple of patrol task forces with fast ships and good spotting modules.

To hunt down and destroy the enemy fleets

[neat widget]

delete them

and then reassign them

[neat widget]

That shouldn't be the issue

[tiny bough]

Right click on the trash can icon on the right of the fleet orders bar

[neat widget]

Like sure they might not be able to find the enemy, but they should still contribute to the supremacy value

[hasty belfry]

Could you make a tank division for countries below the poverty line using armored cars instead of tanks?

[tiny bough]

lol

[neat widget]

You could

[hasty belfry]

Would they have any meaningful power?

The low production cost makes it appealing.

I think base 1936 armored car only has 3.5 production cost.

[neat widget]

Those aren't particularly good

But once you get to 1942 armored cars they're somewhat decent

[hasty belfry]

What is their production cost?

[neat widget]

8.5 ic

[hasty belfry]

Does that compare well with a 1941 light tank? I never really use them for line battalions.

[native gorge]

I think this is the most cursed division i made so far

Though that begs the question

do i use it

[neat widget]

space marine

multiply it by 2.5

[native gorge]

The tank battalion?

[neat widget]

assault engineers and flame tanks are good too

[native gorge]

Or the template itself

[neat widget]

Multiply the number of line battalions by 2.5

[native gorge]

Im still researching assault engineers

[native gorge]

like this ?

[neat widget]

Ah good

[neat widget]

Your light tank can look like this

[native gorge]

still no nsb but i plan on buying it today

[hasty belfry]

Isn’t that a bit slow for a light tank?

Also, 46.1% reliability is diabolical.

No easy maintenance or can you not fit that to light tanks?

[neat widget]

Oh good idea

[neat widget]

It's fine

[native gorge]

this good?

[neat widget]

But yeah reliability is better on armored cars

[neat widget]

Should be a 36 width

14 * 2.5 = 35

[hasty belfry]

Poor countries that I would be begging on the side of the street for a mil to even produce armored cars likely also have supply issues.

[native gorge]

ah

[hasty belfry]

Which means that attrition will tear something with such low reliability apart.

[native gorge]

should i add or delete some medium tanks or no?

[sudden pelican]

I tried Japan again

[neat widget]

Convert 1 or 2 lines to tanks and then you should be set

But this won't be too bad in singleplayer

although

seems like your tank stats are a bit low

[neat widget]

It doesn't work like that in practice

[neat widget]

Since you only get attrition when out of supply or in attritioning terrain (e.g. mountains, jungles, marshes)

[sudden pelican]

Is there hope?

[native gorge]

base tanks 😅 , again no nsb yet

[neat widget]

Oh

[neat widget]

Fair

[hasty belfry]

For someplace like the Chinese nations, that will be a frequent issue.

Also, a lot of the weaker European nations have a lot of mountains.

Or have to push through them for territorial goals.

[neat widget]

So light tank versus armored car

[hasty belfry]

I’m surprised armored car has better hard attack and piercing,

[neat widget]

Typically for those low ic nations you stick with infantry

[hasty belfry]

Also, that speed will make overruns easy right?

[neat widget]

Yeah because I didn't spec into that

Should make overruns

[hasty belfry]

Maybe, but sometimes you want rapid units (more rapid than cavalry).

Also, armored cars have more hp?

I thought they had less.

[neat widget]

More thank tanks yes

[hasty belfry]

The price almost looks worth it. The breakthrough is worse but it can be partially compensated by the artillery and tank sub-doctrines that buff armored cars with breakthrough and other stats.

[neat widget]

But you'd also have to make your division 100% armored cars

[neat widget]

I should absolutely check that

[hasty belfry]

Motorized can still provide pretty solid speed.

[hasty belfry]

Which I believe can be further increased by the truck MIO.

It is now almost 2am so I am off to bed but I will check and see how well armored cars work tomorrow.

[neat widget]

Armored car division

So you can get armored cars down to 383 ic per battalion, 347 ic with MIO

Thing is, you can do this with the same doctrines

[sonic wraith]

How to do this

[neat widget]

Yeah with actual doctrines medium spgs just mog armored cars

but hey, armored cars are indeed faster

[neat widget]

simple

Do your transport tech

[sonic wraith]

Oh, there is research.

[neat widget]

Yeah

Also the marine doctrine tree too

[sonic wraith]

I've never seen it, maybe because I've only tried Germany and the Soviet Union.

Not really need to build a navy

[trail reef]

which version of hoi4 was it that got the new germany

[neat widget]

1.16 götterdammerung

[vestal ore]

tf is this shit

i cap them but it all goes to germany

i am not in axis

[trail reef]

germany did all the work so goes to them

[vestal ore]

they did nothing

[vestal ore]

pushed 1 tile into maginot

[trail reef]

prolly kill germany

[sonic wraith]

Are China and CSR counted as warlords?

[languid trout]

give germany ile de france to spawn vichy

and then kill vichy

free navy and land

fascist countries cant join allies anymore

[half glade]

as the netherlands, how to a properly benefit from these occupied territories?

[languid trout]

u want to get more resources from suriname and curacao?

[half glade]

i mean, is there a way to do that? or do i just not bother building anything there

[languid trout]

yes there is

either

[half glade]

i havent looked at economy this in depth before

[languid trout]

wait

are u going democratic path

[half glade]

so i thought it could be helpful

[languid trout]

actually no

to get more resources

[half glade]

i dont really know yet

[languid trout]

theres 3 ways

first one is to build up compliance by putting suriname and curacao on civilian oversight

[half glade]

okay

[languid trout]

second one is to put max infrastructure on both states and put a high cap electric grid in both states afterwards

[half glade]

is there a negative to civlian oversight

[languid trout]

third one is to just put suriname and curacao on forced labor

[languid trout]

no

u can use local police force instead because it uses less garrison equipment, however civilian oversight just gets compliance faster

[half glade]

these territories wont rebel right?

since i start with them

[lyric geyser]

Only if resistance gets high enough which is very difficult

[half glade]

ah okay

[lyric geyser]

You also have East Indies as a puppet which is super valueable

[half glade]

whats the best choice here

Curtail Colonial Autonomy or Continue the Zuiderzee Works

[lyric geyser]

It depends if you think you’ll capitulate

[half glade]

capitulate the mainland?

like get destroyed by the germans

[lyric geyser]

If you capitulate you do colonial autonomy if not you do continue zuider

[lyric geyser]

Yeah

[half glade]

hmm

i mean im doing the focuses to add forts to the german border

[lyric geyser]

since it lets you annex the Dutch East Indies if you cap

[half glade]

ohhh

hmm

[half glade]

what do you think is the best

im trying to do historical

[lyric geyser]

If your new prob colonial path so you have a backup if you die

[half glade]

i mean ive done world domination with germany and uk

[lyric geyser]

because if you do zuider it means you have nothing when you cap

[half glade]

so maybe i could try defending?

[lyric geyser]

Your choice

you have nice defensive lines as the Dutch atleast

[half glade]

captain always goes down with his ship

[lyric geyser]

Lol

[half glade]

continue the zuiderzee works

[fresh nebula]

Has any of Italian release country desigions for "united Italy" like "united Germany" for German releases countries?

[astral pumice]

There's no such thing bruh

Where do you even get that info

[placid pine]

As japan, 26th February event didnt start, so i cant use main focus tree. How to fix that

[pure sonnet]

What's the best occupation law and garrison template?

[lone sigil]

if communist its liberated worker if democratic and you have almost no resitans its local autonomy and for the others it local police force

[tardy spear]

hello guys, is the world tension bugged? its not going above 0 even though there is a world war going on lol

[lone sigil]

for the template you just want like one horse or sum

[tardy spear]

I need to get luxembourg for the european confederation but I cant justify 🥀

[lone sigil]

lol

[sacred patrol]

What dlcs change like all countries completely, like they add new mechanics

[tardy spear]

I asked a question 💔

[heady mesa]

What infantry division template do you recommend for big countries

[vast steppe]

what is the best way to play nationalist china in the denouunce feudalism path idk how to reform my army quiclky to have good div to beat up the warlord the japanese and the soviet after

[lone sigil]

dlc u need for mechanics are the spie one by blood alone no step back the navy one and man the guns

[lone sigil]

idk look like you got unlucky🥀

[lone sigil]

if you do tank you can do bascic inf and if you do like mass assult where grind the enemies stockpiles down do some 30 withs

[sacred patrol]

But like what dlc adds special forces styfft

[half glade]

should i be splitting my frontlines like this

or should i just be putting both armys on the whole frontline

[tepid umbra]

If they're in an army group you can make a frontline with it

[half glade]

ohh i did not know that

ohhh thats super helpful

[half glade]

also, i managed world domination with the UK

[candid veldt]

how is the amount of support ships needed for maximum bonuses calculated?

[lone sigil]

its man the gun i think

[candid veldt]

special forces doctrines come from aat

[sacred patrol]

And is it worth it? Or not really

[lone sigil]

alr when i sad man the gun i menr arms against tyrans sry

[lone sigil]

for the mios yes

market isnt as importaint

[mortal flame]

how to increase manpower?

[lone sigil]

conscription law or become communist

[half glade]

how do i possibly win this

[lone sigil]

uh its better if yo9u play netherlands only

they have like the best postion

[half glade]

i mean not really

my economy is much better

[lone sigil]

yea but you need to defend much mire

[languid trout]

abandon friesland

fall back to the port tile above amsterdam

[half glade]

im already dead

[languid trout]

at the bridge

[languid trout]

ok

btw

always hold shift while making field marshal frontlines

[half glade]

what does that change

[languid trout]

it combines it into 1 truly unified frontline

so every tile gets equal amount of divs

[half glade]

does it not do that when i just click it

[half glade]

oh my days thank you

[languid trout]

no

[half glade]

i was getting so annoyed

because there were just pockets

that the germans were taking without any challenge

[languid trout]

im pretty sure thats just ur divs getting beaten and retreating

[sand seal]

guys as a minor does building civ make sense or it is better to go straight to mils?

[languid trout]

which minor nation are u playing

usually u just build mils

because

i believe ur going to expand

[sand seal]

wanted to play bulgaria

[languid trout]

and soon get better industry

[languid trout]

historical?

hist bulgaria?

[sacred patrol]

Anf last thing, to make my own tanks planes and ships, Aat?

[lone sigil]

huh

say again

[tepid umbra]

Own ships is in base game now

[sacred patrol]

The dlc to make custom planes/ships/tabjs

[tepid umbra]

Own tanks is in no step back

Planes is in by blood alone

(NSB/BBA)

[sacred patrol]

IG can you recommend which one

Like which would you use more

[sacred patrol]

Do you guys make your own troops or not really?

[tepid umbra]

I'd say either NSB or AAT

Imo, nsb

[sacred patrol]

Kk

Thanks

[lone sigil]

allways one tanks and planes

navy isnt as importaint

[lone sigil]

huh

oh

[tepid umbra]

They made man the guns free

[lone sigil]

i didnt even realised

[tepid umbra]

😡

[lone sigil]

bro i mean the desgin you dont need meta cruiser if you play as the us

you can beat japan with your starting navy

[tepid umbra]

I mean yeah ofc

But that's if you're playing one of the best navies in the world

[lone sigil]

yea but you can beat no one with your staring airforce or tank design

you see what i mean?

[tepid umbra]

You can

Beat everyone

[lone sigil]

huh

[tepid umbra]

You can world conq with no tanks or planes

I have

[lone sigil]

yea ofc

you dont get it

[tepid umbra]

You can world conq with starting plane designs

I have

You can world conq with starting tank designs and inf

I have accidentally

[sand seal]

yes

[lone sigil]

i mean like if you dont desgin your navy it isnt as bad as if you dont do tank or planes

[quick night]

is this good?

im kind of a beginner so ye

[lone sigil]

ur playing against ai?

[quick night]

ye

[lone sigil]

do you have better gun?

un need like max on engin 4 on armor

also remove the modle with extra breakthrough

[quick night]

nope

[lone sigil]

bruh

also gett the 3 man turret

not even a better radio???

daawng

[quick night]

ok

cuz I got the dlc and i dont rlly know the designer section that well

[lone sigil]

wait lemme search up desgin rq

[quick night]

so mb if ts is making u mad or smth

[lone sigil]

watch some tank guides

i like the one from segl

[quick night]

ok

[lone sigil]

dawng i cant screenshot

[tepid umbra]

One in pins

[tepid umbra]

Btw for singleplayer, sp artillery is meta now

[quick night]

ok

ty

[lyric geyser]

Breakthrough is fine he has super high reliability

Oh wait

Do you mean the top thing

[lone sigil]

ye

[lyric geyser]

Yeah I thought you meant the suspension lol

[lone sigil]

lol

[hasty belfry]

Why armored car only with no mobile infantry? I’ve seen why armored car only is a bad idea in a video from one of the bigger HOI tubers where they used armored cars before they unlocked mechanized in what was supposed to be a mechanized only challenge since you don’t get mechanized until 1940.

The low hp is brutal.

[tepid umbra]

Cheap and look at the speed

And look at suppression

[lone sigil]

just use trunks instead of mech

[tepid umbra]

Those are garrison/meme divs

[hasty belfry]

Motorized still grants speed.

[tepid umbra]

Motorized does not hit 20

[hasty belfry]

We were actively discussing using them for tank divisions for countries below the poverty line.

[tepid umbra]

That's slower than the highest with armored cars rn too

[hasty belfry]

Maybe.

[tepid umbra]

Oh yeah you can use armored cars as a tank replacement

But build them like tank divs

[hasty belfry]

But it also doesn’t result in a 36 division width with less than a hundred hp.

[dusty sandal]

always 3man turret
by the time you have close support gun you must be able to get howitzer

also, only use secondary heavy machine gun in secondary gun

no point in the other, cost too much for not much more

[quick night]

ok ty

[stuck garnet]

i see people use it for tds

or heavy tanks

[half glade]

how do you beat the germans as the netherlands

lowkey so difficult

[tepid umbra]

yeah it's good for tds

but that's only good for mp

[stuck garnet]

Should i do armor meme

In sp

[tepid umbra]

nah

[dusty sandal]

because TDs need hard attack and brk
in singleplayer you only need the breakthrough the radio gives you (since more doesn't do anything) and soft attack (since ai divs never have above 45% hardness and that rare)

[stuck garnet]

i just want the armor meme for a heavy tank in the battalion without having to make a whole division

i want the cannon

the armor (Even though i won't need it)

the firepower

extra break would be nice but it's not on my priority list

[dusty sandal]

if you do armor meme or not you still won't use secondary canon

you'l have plenty of brk due to armor ticks btw

and radio

[quick forum]

What does min maxing mean

[hasty belfry]

Also does this include buffs from both mobile recon & assault and armored cavalry?

[narrow grail]

Is it allowed to put support artillery and support rocket artillery at once?

[glacial steeple]

yeah

[hasty belfry]

Is there any benefit to using rocket rails on planes over bomb mounts?

[glacial steeple]

no weight

thats it

just doesnt have weight

[narrow grail]

I'm doing nuclear Gandhi when I can core India/Pakistan?

[pliant condor]

you can use a lower level engine

[pearl roost]

Question: when I build medium tank frames for example, do I need to have a second line of production to produce the actual tank or I can just design one and produce it directly?

I started yesterday don't bully me please

[glacial steeple]

you can change lines if you want

left click

[pearl roost]

So I don't need to have two in parallel

[glacial steeple]

wont let you do like guns into air

no you never have to

[pearl roost]

Oks thanks

[glacial steeple]

theres a x5 and x10 button

[pliant condor]

in fact this is probably better than the normal cas if you can't fill cas width

[tight vector]

Does anyone know the easiest way to beat Germany civil war

I just wanna re-introduce the rightful imperial borders

[glacial steeple]

micro

[tight vector]

Micro manage?

[glacial steeple]

yes

its just a 1v1 you vs the ai

you have more eco

[willow mauve]

anyone have macro for turkey? am tryin to get Hardly Anything Sèvres

[lyric geyser]

Make sure to micro air first put it in the south, then encircle and kill the south then move air up and push up

[glacial steeple]

having pp stacked is good

2 daily is NOT a luxury youd like it

[tight vector]

Ooh! I completely forgot about air support

[glacial steeple]

and only making mils is fine

[willow mauve]

what?

[glacial steeple]

iirc you get a lot of civs from decisions

[glacial steeple]

political power buffs

[willow mauve]

ik but

[glacial steeple]

just take like all of the permanent ones so you have about 2 pp daily

[willow mauve]

i have a problem

[glacial steeple]

army not ready? manpower low?

[willow mauve]

when i open historical and attack yugo, yugo join allies and if i dont open historical yugo and romaina becomes axis puppet

[glacial steeple]

yeah so what is your army lacking

air?

[lyric geyser]

You have to wait with yugo for them to be unguarenteed

[glacial steeple]

you have a good tank MIO, good air MIO

you can do either

you should always have mountaineers

[willow mauve]

İdk much temp

[glacial steeple]

turkey is good

you have a lot of resources

[willow mauve]

Cause i mostly play with mods

[glacial steeple]

manpower is solved by decisions

2500 weekly or something

[willow mauve]

Btw should i open hist or unhist

[glacial steeple]

i like playing ahist but hist is easier

the sides are always equal

[willow mauve]

Ald

Alr

[supple quiver]

[willow mauve]

wanna vc? İf u are not busy

[tacit bison]

Hello! Steam sale = new HOI4 player here.

I'm trying the tutorial and finding it ... frustrating. I understand it's a tutorial and I'm not going to have 100% understanding of what I'm seeing, but sheesh, I'm barely understanding anything.

Latest = I just lost the war against Ethiopia. No idea why really. I think I had the north army, the south army, and the air force set up as directed by the tutorial, then I unpaused it, it ran a year, lots of info flashed up around the division markers and on the screen I had no idea what any of it meant, the clock ran for about 12 months with me watching, wondering WTH, then I lost.

Ok. Now what? Because my appetite to run that tutorial again just to let it fail again, with no learning, is not high.

Advice very welcome. This game looks very interesting and should be something right up my normal alley, but at this point I'm ticked and frustrated about to punt the whole thing.

[languid trout]

easy

just go overkill

on ethiopia

put the first and south army on spearheading into ethiopia

always pick the one that gives air support bonus when the decision appears

put 4 mountaineer divs and 2 infantry divs on the north army from the home army

put the remaining home army divisions into the southern army

then just keep pushing

u cant do anything about the supply but its fine

[wintry matrix]

The Tutorial is "not good" at all.
When fighting against Ethiopia, just send your entire army and entire airforce over.
It get the job done too.

Try checking out other nations too.
Italy can be very stressful.
Try Romania, Germany can be fine or even some other random other small country anywhere.

[willow mauve]

do u have macro for Hardly Anything Sèvres

[wintry matrix]

https://youtu.be/QvHT121_lWQ

And many like to refer to this.

[dusty sandal]

there's a 2025 edition iirc

[languid trout]

im not going through all the effort for that

watch a tutorial for it or sum

especially machiavellian strategist's one

not sure if it still works though

[willow mauve]

All the tutorials are old

[languid trout]

oh

[glacial steeple]

i cannot

[willow mauve]

alr np

[pliant condor]

probably easier to just play normaly

build air

join axis

kill uk and france

annex them

leave axis

kill axis

declare on russia and kill russia

then invade japan finally

in the old version there is a way to slightly cheese it but you still need to kill uk and france yourself

[languid trout]

dont forget to kill bulgaria early too

via the focus

both outcomes are good

[pliant condor]

oh you wanna savescum to make sure they refuse

[candid willow]

hello guys, has anyone happend with multiplayer bug?
So basically when i and my friend going multiplayer, the country we are playing is controlled by AI, he chooses focuses, researches, decisions.
If anyone knows how to fix this, help us please! We have all the DLC`s, the same version of the game, but the AI of the country we are choosing just remains!

[willow mauve]

İ cant

İt comes as puppet

[stuck garnet]

is there any good tank nations? Plus minor nations that make good tanks?

[lone sigil]

germany russia usa

usa prop the best

you need 0 inf if you play as usa

[indigo sapphire]

hello

should i always use the SPs

[stuck garnet]

Isnt usa an air and navy nation?

[lone sigil]

if your not playing mp you dont need to do any navy stuff

and air is allways importtaint

[willow mauve]

guys how can i annex my puppets fast without lend lease

[lone sigil]

if not playing russia

[indigo sapphire]

i need a answer to this

[lone sigil]

build in them

[stuck garnet]

Yeah but it feels a bit overkill to make tanks and cas

[willow mauve]

i dont have much civ am turkey

[lone sigil]

mp no single yes

[indigo sapphire]

alr

[lone sigil]

then uhhh ig no idea

[lone sigil]

you dont need cas just get heavy fighter

s

[candid willow]

anyone?

[dusty sandal]

I'm guessing the host is the coop and you did an hotjoin at some point
basically you'll need to rehost, make sure that one of you is the main controller (picking the country in the lobby should work) and then log in
if the main disconnects at any point, you'll need to rehost

[candid willow]

I am the host, i`m join the Iceland, my friend joins Iceland too, we start the game

and the bot is working

in our country

[dusty sandal]

hotjoin or no hotjoin ?

[candid willow]

i tried hotjoin and no hotjoin

the result is the same

[sacred patrol]

Is mobile infantry expensive

[dusty sandal]

then I'm not sure I can help. I haven't encountered this issue

[dusty sandal]

yes, and basically useless
just use infantry or cavalry, not motorized

[lone sigil]

its not worth

[sacred patrol]

Kk, but are heavy tanks worth it? (No dlc to costum)

[lone sigil]

do motorized if you dont have mec in you tanks

[lone sigil]

if you dant have dlc dont do tanks

do grand battelplan inf

[sacred patrol]

But y not tanks

Ok, doesn't matter, wb trucks

[lone sigil]

they dont get that good stats

[dusty sandal]

not really, in singleplayer you want to use SPGs
with no DLC you use the light SPG (the explosion icon on the light tank research card) and make a division with 7 mechanized/cavalry (NO MOTORIZED !!), 3 medium tanks (light tanks until you have mediums) and 8 light SPG (should bring you to 36 combat width)

[dusty sandal]

no, just use cav
same stats, just slower and cost way less + no fuel or rrubber needed

[lone sigil]

cav in tanks??

[dusty sandal]

yes

[lone sigil]

dawng

[dusty sandal]

motorized is only there for the funny speed

it's not worth regular inf otherwise

[sacred patrol]

Ok ig i will have to get the dlc for tanks

[dusty sandal]

you don't have to

[sacred patrol]

But I don't wanna just use infantry

[dusty sandal]

gimme a sec

[lone sigil]

get the tank the air and the spy dlc u dont need more than that

[dusty sandal]

#ask-for-help-here message

[sacred patrol]

Francais?

[dusty sandal]

you can do tanks

[lone sigil]

aat maby

[sacred patrol]

I have the resistance

[lone sigil]

oh

[sacred patrol]

And that one dlc that gives turkey Bulgaria and Greece a new tree

They're were at very good discount with the main game

In a pack

[lone sigil]

alr

[sacred patrol]

What do you think of tighter Vs heavy fighters

[lone sigil]

do 9/3 line inf trust

[sacred patrol]

I usually add 1 artillery on the 4th row with that

And support hospitals and engineers

[lone sigil]

dont actualy

if u using tanks and hold inf just get get like 18 with inf with engeiers

and maby support arty

[dusty sandal]

do this

[sacred patrol]

So rather than 4th row 1 arti I should do support arti?

[lone sigil]

bro

[dusty sandal]

light fighters always win except in useless pacific island areas and very niche mp games

[tacit bison]

Thanks advice.

How do I send my entire army and airforce to Ethiopia? I assume you mean whatever starts on the Italian mainland?

Also thanks for the tutorial link.

[sacred patrol]

Do heavy get like better stats tho or

[lone sigil]

the support companies suck

[lone sigil]

heavy as us

[sacred patrol]

I usually use engi with hospital

[sacred patrol]

Heavy is ass?

[lone sigil]

use heavy fighters as usa

[sacred patrol]

That's it

[dusty sandal]

that's what you get for no DLC, there isn't anything else

if you have no mech or medium tanks

[dusty sandal]

not even, US can now ignore pacific and just do light fighters as everyone with max ranged still

[sacred patrol]

I don't have much game experience so ain't dropping hundreds of bucks just yet

[lone sigil]

you should get military engeenier things

[lone sigil]

you just need blood alone no steep back

like 30$

[dusty sandal]

ik, I'm not saying it's bad, it's just the best you can get without DLCs

[dusty sandal]

true, forgot they were vanilla