ask-for-help-here

[native gorge]

Okay how do i make regenerating fighting strength faster

[versed rose]

you cant

[wild rune]

fighting strength cant be regenerated faster

[serene karma]

Who ping

[wild rune]

no clue

[dark ginkgo]

Heya there, new player here and absolute noob

Is this a good infantry devision for mid-37 as germany?

I always struggle to capitulate poland fast and I somehow loose the defence at the maginot line with 24divs

[wild rune]

not the absolute worst ive seen

do u produce everything in that div?

the only way that fails against AI is if you don't have enough fighting strength

[dark ginkgo]

i produce everything, but i'm still a bit short on mills, they're under construction tho

[native gorge]

Okay how tf do i do support attacks

Nvm i found out

[rich plume]

are intelligence agenices a dlc?

[upper basin]

Hmmm

[dark ginkgo]

là resistance DLC

[upper basin]

I'll go with the usual support engineer+support AA+support artillery and yeah with 9 inf divs

But I sometimes use line art instead of the support art for more soft attack

Also have you changed the motorization priority to max trucks?

It's good, but by default your FM (field marshal) use horsey, so do change that

[dark ginkgo]

you mean horse cavalary divs change to tank divs?

[dark ginkgo]

wdym with that?

[upper basin]

Huh?

No no

Lemme show you

This

[dark ginkgo]

ooohhhh

what does that do?

[upper basin]

Basically use your trucks

To deliver supplies (which is historical for Germany)

You want fast occupation

You need fast supply

[dark ginkgo]

and the horses suck for supplies, right?

[upper basin]

Kinda slow, yes

Well... Just don't forget to make trucks

[dark ginkgo]

oooohhhh

so thats why i suck at brazil

[upper basin]

?

You used Brazil before? Or do you invade Brazil with Germany?

Brazil's problem is pretty much their transports really

[dark ginkgo]

nonono

i played brazil but sucked against venezuela bc of supplies

[upper basin]

Ooh

Er... You sure you don't lack supplies?

Or is it because of your supply line?

I usually just go international trade for trucks, because I want to focus my research on something else and I pay for the trade for cheap (around 1-2 civ factories) for tons of trucks

[dark ginkgo]

supply line

[inner sparrow]

it isn’t

remove the line arty, make it either pure inf 16-18w or 36width

[dark ginkgo]

i don't have the dlc for international market

[inner sparrow]

remove truck support

remove at support

[upper basin]

Huh?

[inner sparrow]

add in logi and ranger or flame tank or light tank

and ur good

[upper basin]

What's the dlc for that again

[dark ginkgo]

don't have flame tank dlc

[inner sparrow]

use ranger then from mtn doctrine

[dark ginkgo]

you sure? i always suck against tanks when i don't have at

[inner sparrow]

you can pierce most ai tanks with aa piercing instead of at but if u really want use at then

its like whatever

ai tanks are bad anyways

pushing inf should look something like this

[dark ginkgo]

they may be, but last time I lost at the maginot line against 4 france tank divs

[inner sparrow]

this is from last update tho so the stats are a bit different

[inner sparrow]

wont be because you didn’t pierce their tanks but different reasons

in most cases your division wont be the reason why u lose against ai

you can win with very bad divisions against ai, as long as you do other more important things properly

[dark ginkgo]

what other important things?

[inner sparrow]

Having full supply, full stockpile and fully strengthened divisions, having enough divisions, having fully trained divisions (lvl 3), stacking combat modifiers like planning, air support, intel advantage, fully equipped high command, doctrines and so on

[upper basin]

Wtf

[inner sparrow]

?

[upper basin]

The name

[inner sparrow]

I didn’t design that one I swear

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/958058230804795392/1346423662709837885/reuhrt.gif

[upper basin]

But why not line arty

[inner sparrow]

because line arty is bad at pushing

[upper basin]

Instead of more inf divs

[inner sparrow]

Line arty doesn’t get breakthrough

and also has no hp

which u want for inf

but break is the main reason

[upper basin]

Valid

[inner sparrow]

gun3 is just better than line arty

[upper basin]

I usually just slap one line arty since the widht would be 21

[inner sparrow]

if u really want u can use light spgs even. They are less cost and have better stats than line arty

[inner sparrow]

bad width

[upper basin]

Eh, 21 is pretty normal for majors

[inner sparrow]

16W performance is best overall in terrains for low widths

[upper basin]

18 for minors

[inner sparrow]

its not

u dont do 21 width

either u do 16-18 or 36

those are the best widths for nearly most divisions

unless you specifically design a forest or marsh division

theres a sheet or google docs for all combat width performances somewhere but I don’t have it on phone

[upper basin]

Interesting insight

I'll remember that, thanks

[inner sparrow]

np

[half yarrow]

I have a problem with field marshalls units won't execute battle plans but will under generals same armies just won't do it under a field marshall why ?

[dusty sandal]

assign the units to the field marshal order

[half yarrow]

I did

[shrewd salmon]

@vast rock Hey there, do you by chance know if there's a place for me to share some suggestions/ideas that could be applied into HOI4 future updates?

[dusty sandal]

head to paradox forums

[shrewd salmon]

Ah okay, thank you!!

[half yarrow]

How ? It's same as general controls right??

[sinful vessel]

Do you build recon planes ? I've never used them 😕

[dusty sandal]

yes but you need a frontline assigned from a field marshal

[half yarrow]

I did battle plan normally and when I execute it they don't do anything

[dusty sandal]

they're only useful for mp, really

[dusty sandal]

could you share a screenshot ? do not crop out anything if you do

[sinful vessel]

ok ty. though they give some bonuses to fight, right ?

[dusty sandal]

they give a small cas bonus and intel bonus iirc
but they're mainly built to gather inter, hence the mp use

(you can also use them on neutral territory to gather intel on future enemy, but they can also get shot down, and since AI knows immediately, it's a waste to do so in singleplayer)

[sinful vessel]

ok. i'll build some just for fun and to spend my air points

[half yarrow]

Idk how to take a screenshot on a pc

[sinful vessel]

it's frustrating to quite always have 500 air points ^^

[dusty sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/omerrv-snip-snippingtool-life-hack-supertool-gif-19420393

[half yarrow]

Good to know

[dusty sandal]

try to remove those orders and assign the frontline again but while maintaining SHIFT key so it creates a fluid frontline

also make sure battleplan aggressiveness is at balanced or aggressive, not careful

[half yarrow]

Okay I will try ( of it won't work I will just use generals )

[dusty sandal]

also, don't overstack your generals

[half yarrow]

Also why is Italy taking yougoslavia coast in 38 and invading Switzerland in 40. On historical?

[half yarrow]

I have 3

[dusty sandal]

if some ahist stuff happened it's not abnormal

[dusty sandal]

they're overstacked, don't you see the red numbers?

[half yarrow]

Oh

I don't really understand Hoi I only have like 20 hours in the game

[dusty sandal]

2 of them have buffs equivalent to no general at all because of this

[dusty sandal]

basically, if you see a popup, adress it. If you see red, you're doing something wrong

[half yarrow]

How to fix them over stacking

[dusty sandal]

assign units to other generals

[half yarrow]

Oh I think I get it I do have 62 divisions on one of them

[dusty sandal]

and 41 in another

limit's 24 per general

[half yarrow]

Yeah okay I get it now

Me trying to understand navy

[dusty sandal]

#ask-for-help-here message some stuff changed last updates but it's pretty much the same

[half yarrow]

Yeah thanks for the help have a good day

[dusty sandal]

you too, have fun dicovering the game

[sinful vessel]

how do you setup your patrol ship ? Never engage ?

[dusty sandal]

never engage = no supremacy so no

[sinful vessel]

ok. so less engagement is less supremacy ?

[nocturne cloak]

Might be the worst player of all time

[half yarrow]

Bro I'm just starting let me learn

[nocturne cloak]

I am

[half yarrow]

Oh you

Why tho ?

[nocturne cloak]

Cause

U abad

[nocturne cloak]

Less engagement is less fights you take

Less air you destroy

[half yarrow]

I'm not bad

I'm new

[nocturne cloak]

U r bad

[sinful vessel]

Please bro, stop

[nocturne cloak]

No

He is bad

[sinful vessel]

Forget it

[sinful vessel]

And you are annoying. But that is unnecessary to say it here. it's the ask for help channel.

[nocturne cloak]

Im not annoying

In a world full of lies the truth is crazy

@half yarrow if you want to learn play China

They are the easiest major

Country*

[half yarrow]

They look like a mess to me

[nocturne cloak]

Or Poland

They are easy too

[half yarrow]

Yeah yeah I mastered Poland already

[half yarrow]

How bro felt writing that

[dusty sandal]

no, only never engage changes that. All other missions give the same

[dusty sandal]

indeed, 20hrs in the game he's bad. Shocker
What's your point ?

[dusty sandal]

poland and china aren't good starting countries
good starting countries would be soviets, germany, usa or canada/hungary

don't listen to this guy idk what he's on but he's high

[half yarrow]

Im happy I was able to beat France by my third game

[nocturne cloak]

So did I lie

[dusty sandal]

never said you did but what's your point ? why tell him that, what does it bring ?

[nocturne cloak]

Im telling the truth

[dusty sandal]

yes, but it's a help channel and that's not helping in any way, it's just being rude to a new player. They come in to ask questions and you're not supposed to hit them with "ur bad" (because of course they are, they're new), if you don't want to help, just don't look in this channel

[nocturne cloak]

Yo you don't get paid

[dusty sandal]

I don't see the point ?

[nocturne cloak]

Are you single

You lowk cute

[dusty sandal]

guh

[nocturne cloak]

Answer

Yes or no

[dusty sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-cat-plink-cat-gif-1794292671885121408

[rich plume]

what's the better choice in regards of Fate of Czechoslovakia? I know puppeting them is the historical option (iirc), but I see a bunch of mentions in favor of splitting it with hungary

[hexed parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/no-you-cant-you-can-do-this-homeless-guy-you-can-do-this-homeless-guy-nah-id-win-gif-18423862390955985385

[dusty sandal]

annexing all in a good option but you can create slovakia if you want the compliance. Hungary will ask you for slovakia anyway on their own through their focuses later on

[rich plume]

I see, so which one is better then? It's my first campaign :D

[dusty sandal]

for a first just annex all, remember to swap the occupation law there (and in general) to local police force as germany and make sure your stability is at 100% so resistance doesn't stack up

you can put prague as harsh quotas for more factories too

[dark ginkgo]

question

I have finnally managed to conquer france as Germany for the first time

What desicion would be the easiest to deal with? Vichy france or annex all?

[dusty sandal]

vichy = less resistance overhaul, do it if you don't have collab governements AND are new player. It's less worries

otherwise annex all

[dark ginkgo]

collab all was from intelligence agency, right?

[dusty sandal]

yes

it give compliance on the country territory upon capitulation

compliance caps the resistance in territories and give a lot of buffs

[dark ginkgo]

aahh

i know it exists and I have the DLC, but i was to slow for that

So vichy france it is

aaand another general germany question

i heard the Generalgouverments/Reichskommisariats are helping upon the mefo bill stuff

I don't know how, but i heard it

Soo... how does it work and should I do it or should I ignore it?

[dusty sandal]

basically, what you can use RK for is when you have mefo bills, you cap a country, take their gold (decision) to lower consumer goods and then release a RK to lower the consumer good factor growth in MEFO

but honestly, except if you don't think you can kill the soviets or the allies by 43, you don't have to worry about it

[dark ginkgo]

aahh

well, i couldn't take the gold of france, but I think it's because of vichy france

[dark ginkgo]

i have a NAP with the USSR but they are justifying wargoals agains me somehow

My plan was to try rushing GB and then go all in on soviets

[tepid umbra]

vichy lowers it automatically iirc

[dusty sandal]

they're porbably justifying against one of your alleis

[dark ginkgo]

so I will still go to war with soviets if thei're done?

[tepid umbra]

do you have romania allied

if so then it's prolly bessarbia

[dusty sandal]

the most likely thing happening is they're doing their focus to claim bessarabia

no big deal

[dark ginkgo]

yeah

[dark ginkgo]

whats that?

[dark ginkgo]

meeaans?

[tepid umbra]

region in north east romania

[tepid umbra]

romania will get smth that lets them either give the territory to russia or give russia a wargoal

[dark ginkgo]

kk

[tepid umbra]

most of the time they give the territory

[dusty sandal]

soviets will do a decision, romania will give them territories

[dark ginkgo]

so I should not worry about USSR yet and i can try to Naval invade GB?

[tepid umbra]

yeah

wait what year is it

[dark ginkgo]

40

14th august 1940

[tepid umbra]

then you're prolly fine

[dark ginkgo]

yay

but I'm going to save my game just in case

was a good desicion not to play on Iron man in this game (tho, i am also playing on the 2nd difficulty instead of the 3rd, maybe thats why I got to cap france)

[tepid umbra]

france is pretty easy to cap if you go through the benelux

[dark ginkgo]

I did

but on my last save, 24divs wasn't enough to hold the maginot line

maybe bc i forgot to get italy into the axis

[tepid umbra]

huh

italy usually doesn't join the war til later

24 good inf divs should be plenty to hold

[dark ginkgo]

one sec

my old save

[tepid umbra]

what did your divisions look like

and what were your tanks

[dark ginkgo]

And I think it's bc i haven't done this

[upper basin]

Dawg let him learn

[tepid umbra]

they still join sometimes

at least before the dlc

[dark ginkgo]

maybe also the problem was that I didn't have much of tanks

[tepid umbra]

im asking that cuz poland was still alive

[dark ginkgo]

yeah, maginot was all infantery

[tepid umbra]

what were your doctrines

[upper basin]

Is this for poles?

[tepid umbra]

don't use line art unless you use the doctrines that buff it

[upper basin]

Ole

Some are right

[dark ginkgo]

template was for all of it

But in my new playthrough, i got almost the same div but maybe the tanks helped a lot

[tepid umbra]

maybe switch the infantry

[upper basin]

Inf 12

[tepid umbra]

and get an operation doctrine they are busted

[upper basin]

For more breakthrough

[tepid umbra]

?

[dark ginkgo]

grand assault doctrine?

[dark ginkgo]

CW i guess

[upper basin]

Nvm add more

This gonna be for push

So just add all slot inf, but for the last line just leave two inf

That should be it, then use field hospital, recon, supply, idk for the other two (you decide it)

[tepid umbra]

I usually use that or desperate defense depending on how my mp is looking

[tepid umbra]

isn't that over 36

even with large unit tactics

[upper basin]

35 if I remember correctly

[dark ginkgo]

like this?

[tepid umbra]

oh yeah that's good without large unit tactics

if you get large unit tactics you can add 3 more guys

[upper basin]

Yeah good

[tepid umbra]

research rangers or mountain infantry

[dark ginkgo]

what about the supports?

[tepid umbra]

and swap the recon for rangers

[tepid umbra]

get rid of AA

[upper basin]

Supply support (I forgor the name)

[tepid umbra]

unless you have like no fighters

[tepid umbra]

logistics company

prolly not needed in europe

[upper basin]

Ye, because Germany got tons of aircrafts

[upper basin]

Eh, for Soviet later I suppose

[tepid umbra]

you can always switch later tho

[dark ginkgo]

Rangers?

[upper basin]

If you're lazy to build supply line, just use that imo

[rich plume]

Ehh, I'm guessing I miss another DLC here.... What's a good tank I can make in 1938?

[upper basin]

Valid point

[tepid umbra]

do you have no step back

[rich plume]

I only have the base game

[tepid umbra]

research mountain infantry or rangers in the special forces area

[tepid umbra]

then a good tank is just medium tanks

[dark ginkgo]

i have mountain

[tepid umbra]

whatever those are

[tepid umbra]

then swap your recon out for a recon guy with the star next to it

[rich plume]

do I put any stuff on them with the + button?

[upper basin]

You want fast or bulky tanks?

[rich plume]

I want ones that win :P

[upper basin]

Fast usually goes for Pz II

[tepid umbra]

oh wait I forgot how you get recon rangers

[upper basin]

Pz III is quite balanced

[rich plume]

it's Panzer III

[tepid umbra]

and you don't get them cuz you don't have by blood alone

[dark ginkgo]

i don't have one

[tepid umbra]

never mind then

[tepid umbra]

yeah you don't have the dlc

do you have armored support equipment building?

[dark ginkgo]

oohh they're DLC content

yeah, i only have the spy DLC

[tepid umbra]

if so, add assault engi companies

[rich plume]

yeah, so the left one is what I have, and the right one is the one that's suggested. What should I put in for stats on mine then?

[dark ginkgo]

yeah, germany starts with one

[tepid umbra]

you should get nsb it's fun

[tepid umbra]

oh really?

[dark ginkgo]

yeps

[upper basin]

Building panzer isn't my specialty

But I don't think you should use 9 engines

Like 4 armor 4 engine

[dark ginkgo]

i am planing on getting no step back and Götterdämmerung bc of the Ratte and the Schwerer Gustav

[rich plume]

I appears to be equivalent in stats with 0 engines on mine

actually faster

[upper basin]

I usually go for that, 5 armor sometimes with 4 armor

[tepid umbra]

they don't have nsb

[upper basin]

Oh

[tepid umbra]

you don't really need gotterdammerung

[rich plume]

that one is only 6.8 speed, mine is 7.8

[dark ginkgo]

no?

[upper basin]

What does have to do with engine building tho?

[tepid umbra]

yours's soft attack sucks

[tepid umbra]

the one on the right isn't there's

[rich plume]

I noticed x_x

[tepid umbra]

cuz they don't have the dlc that lets them build tanks

[upper basin]

Oh bruh

[rich plume]

event with max main gun it's kinda low

[tepid umbra]

I mean it's good but it's expensive compared to some of the other good ones

[tepid umbra]

see if you can check the breakthrough

cuz that prolly also sucks

try increasing armor

[upper basin]

Ah...

Armor to three

[bitter trout]

hopw do i get the suitable ship numbers where it is showing zero? I have my fleets set to strike force in the channel?

[dark ginkgo]

25€

but in sale only 15€ i guess

[rich plume]

I don't know how to check that, this UI sucks

[upper basin]

Pz III have no need for bulky armor

[tepid umbra]

set some to patrol

[dark ginkgo]

you need them on patrol

[upper basin]

Patrol

[tepid umbra]

in the new naval system, patrol builds a base naval dominance, strike force multiplies it, and convoy raiding subtracts enemies's

[tepid umbra]

the others are cheaper tho

at least they are in usd

[upper basin]

Anyway

Put it on "always engage"

Because you want them all dead

[rich plume]

So I guess that's it then, just slap 5 gun on it?

[tepid umbra]

but then all of yours might die

[rich plume]

it'll cost 100 army xp then

[dark ginkgo]

most of them are 15€ to 20€

Götterdämmerung and NCNS are the most expensives yet with 25€ and 30€

[upper basin]

C'mon, what's the royal navy gonna do to U-boats?

[tepid umbra]

yeah i'd get one of the cheaper ones

[upper basin]

Until 1941, I guess

[tepid umbra]

u-boats are shit in the english channel

[dark ginkgo]

(And seeplate tenders with fuggin 49€)

[upper basin]

Eh, fair

Atlantic ocean tho

[tepid umbra]

the dlcs i'd get are the ones cheaper than gotterdammerung, and that add focus trees and other content

[tepid umbra]

true but he's naval invading in the channel

[upper basin]

Bruh

[dusty sandal]

use light SPGs if you don't have no step back DLC

something like this

[rich plume]

light SPGs?

[tepid umbra]

there are spgs in base game?

I did not know that

[dark ginkgo]

are they any 'necessary' DLCs i should lay my eye on first?

[dusty sandal]

yes, they are the explosion icons on the tank research card, in the research view

[dusty sandal]

^

[tepid umbra]

oh yeah I always forgot to research those

[tepid umbra]

no step back

[upper basin]

Good one, for me it's BBA

And BFB

[tepid umbra]

I like by blood alone but it doesn't really seem that game changing to me

[rich plume]

these?

[dark ginkgo]

BBA?

[dusty sandal]

no step back is solid pick but my personal recommendation would be Arms Against Tyranny
you get special forces doctrines (awsome and you'll use it often), arms market (you'll use it quite often), MIOs (you'll always use them) and quite fun focuses in the nordic countries

[tepid umbra]

by blood alone

[upper basin]

By British Alone

[tepid umbra]

italy and planes

[dark ginkgo]

aah

[dusty sandal]

yes, but only research light ones, they have almost the same stats as mediums

[tepid umbra]

I'd say nsb then aat

then prolly bba

[rich plume]

oh, so skip the medium panzers then?

it's a bit early for the next lights....

[tepid umbra]

what is bfb

[dark ginkgo]

i tried MIOs in a playthrough with a friend of mine, they look quiet complicated

[dusty sandal]

#ask-for-help-here message
you use them for breakthrough stats

[upper basin]

And GoE shouldn't be bought (Personal opinion)

[dusty sandal]

good opinion

[upper basin]

Battle for Bosporus

[tepid umbra]

I haven't bought any of the ones that just add focus trees

cuz they seem too out of the way

[tepid umbra]

ohh

[upper basin]

TURKSSS

[dusty sandal]

definitely not a good DLC
first it's a country pack, only 3 focus trees with only a good one which is bulgaria's

not worth it except for achievement hunting imo

[upper basin]

Yeah yeah, but Turks

[dusty sandal]

at least it wasn't packed with bugs though

[dusty sandal]

played twice with it, purely awful gameplay on my end

by the time you can do stuff, you're forced to do ww3

[tepid umbra]

all of hoi4 is packed with bugs

some are just sneaky

[upper basin]

Ngl, they need to remake it or something, I feel like you need to be able to do something when not choosing Ataturk

Ataturk is a green wall of buff

Other paths feel like you're removing a green wall from game

[dusty sandal]

there are bugs, sure but some you can understand went under the radar
some others ... well tanu tuva assumed control of the comintern by 1937. Come on guys
(and mexico from the lallies in 1941)

[tepid umbra]

I mean mexico taking ally leadership can be done without the dlc

[dusty sandal]

yes but the AI wasn't supposed to do that

[tepid umbra]

if you just get mexico in the faction and beat the allies early, then leave mexico as the only one left

[tepid umbra]

huh

[dusty sandal]

thing is, mexico and tanu tuva did that with any allies major caping (except france)

[rich plume]

hmm, since you guys are talking about important DLC to get, what's the priority list?

[dusty sandal]

it was just not tested, I can't accept people claiming that the DLC was thouroughly playtested with this kind of shit

[rich plume]

since christmas is coming, so maybe some discounts materialize

[upper basin]

NSB

Then go with AAT

Then BBA

[sinful vessel]

It also depends on what you like to play

[upper basin]

Do you need la resistance? Imo, I kinda need it

[rich plume]

Germany, probably US, Russia

[upper basin]

I mean c'mon, spies are important yk

[sinful vessel]

I'm not a good player, but yes, spies help a lot

[upper basin]

Gotterdammerung, hoo boy

[rich plume]

what's that

[upper basin]

Army against tyranny

[dusty sandal]

Imo
1 - Arms Against tyranny
2 - No Step Back
3 - La Resistance
4 - By Blood alone OR GTR (for focuses essentially)
5 - NCNS
6 - Battle for the bosphorus / Trial of allegiance
7 - Graveyard of empires

[upper basin]

Dude

Remove GoE

It never existed

[rich plume]

hmm, I don't see AAT on DLC page :\

[dusty sandal]

at least Irak's fun

[upper basin]

It's a horror that no one should know

[dusty sandal]

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[upper basin]

Anyway where's Gotterdammerung on your list

[dusty sandal]

same as BBA

[upper basin]

What's that south American dlc again

[dusty sandal]

they tried to add some new mechanics which they botched and now it's stuck in a weird balance so the only thing left are focuses

[dusty sandal]

ToA

[tepid umbra]

I lowk like ncns a lot

[upper basin]

Ooh that one

[tepid umbra]

too bad it's expensive as hell

[sinful vessel]

Trial of allegence ?

[upper basin]

It's not really good, same as BFB, they only add things for 3 countries

[dusty sandal]

I find it overpriced, lacking balance, lacking flavor and quite bugged
I do like the doctrine changes though

[upper basin]

NCNS is quite confusing for China & Japan for newcomers

[sinful vessel]

Price wise, i often buy dlc when i can find them around 10 €

[upper basin]

The Philippine's national focus tree is kind of boring

[tepid umbra]

I think it has the flavor but it's definitely overpriced

[rich plume]

what's GTR?

[upper basin]

Gotterdammerung

[tepid umbra]

also they need to fix AI a ton

[rich plume]

and why is it Blood alone OR GTR?

[upper basin]

Pick one, both good

Or pick both

[dusty sandal]

One thing I can't accept, they said they wanted to make the pacific a real theatre but they didn't add any incencitive to capture islands ? wwth paradox. At least make a national spirit like Hearts of Oak or TFB mods do which gives buffs/debuffs to the country winning/losing the pacific island hoping campaign

[tepid umbra]

dlc goes that cheap?

[dusty sandal]

old ones yes

otherwise you have to go in the gray market area which isn't really safe to buy from

[sinful vessel]

yes. Usualy last one is around 20, then decreases over time

[tepid umbra]

if you get the hoi4 subscription and then unsubscribe do you just lose access to the dlc

[upper basin]

The Philippines overpowering Japan & USA by spamming subs also needs to be fixed

[dusty sandal]

at the end of the subscription contracted, yes

[sinful vessel]

probably

[upper basin]

The only good way to play the Philippines is just to slap subs and sleep

Kinda lack the tension or skill to play it imo

[dusty sandal]

if you paid for 1 month, at the end of said month you'll lose access
if you paid for a year, it'll last a year

[upper basin]

Meanwhile China got all the tension with debuffs

[tepid umbra]

I mean the incentive is that it makes it easy to invade by island hopping

but you don't even need to get all of them

and usually it's easier to go around

[dusty sandal]

you can also simply ignore it completely, invade hawai directly and from there invade the US

business as usual

and the US can just naval invade japan day 1 too

[rich plume]

am I going blind? Can't find NCNS

[dusty sandal]

top of the list, the big one

[tepid umbra]

very top one

[dusty sandal]

with the image

[tepid umbra]

you can invade hawaii directly?

[rich plume]

ah

[upper basin]

No compromise no surrender

[tepid umbra]

do you just need a ton of cruisers or what

[upper basin]

You couldn't?

[dusty sandal]

yes, you just need to remove the shitty destroyers from the fleet or use underway replenishment special project

[dusty sandal]

you aren't supposed to be because of how projecting supremacy now works

[tepid umbra]

I never tried

[upper basin]

Yeah

[tepid umbra]

because island hopping is more fun

and even if there's no incentive to some things I still do them

[upper basin]

I did slap some cheap CV the last time I tried to put my supremacy up

[dusty sandal]

but you can build it up before the war, launch orders before declaring and when the day passes it fires automatically because the enemy didn't have time to build up projection

[upper basin]

Yeah, but gonna waste oil

[tepid umbra]

you can just trade

[upper basin]

But should be good

[tepid umbra]

or capture good provinces

[tepid umbra]

won't work in multiplayer tho right

[dusty sandal]

you put 10 light cruisers up with a fleet on strike force for a week and you're good

[upper basin]

I'd rather not, that time I'm building more mill factory

[tepid umbra]

I feel like the dlcs are more and more not designed around ai

[royal hazel]

Someone can give me a tip why i am always losing? With portugal i do like 40 divisions to attack spain and i always lose, is bcs my template? Or i just suck😔

[tepid umbra]

they should just put aside some time to fix the ai

[tepid umbra]

prolly a combination of template and supply issues

[dusty sandal]

it can but nobody does pacific war in MP
planes are king and rubber is in asia so every competent japan/US player won't bother
they'll just invade philipines, malaya, india and DEI

[royal hazel]

😔 I suck hard at this game, well when get home will study how to make a good template

[tepid umbra]

what does japan do if they wanna beat the us in mp tho

[dusty sandal]

they're just not balancing the AI out of fear for the newer players coming in
they don't want players to arrive and get their asses kicked so they just let the ai drool on itself

[dusty sandal]

they build planes and capture the rubber/try to kill india and australia

[tepid umbra]

why don't they just keep the current ones and have a seperate better ones

there's difficulty settings for a reason

[tepid umbra]

but what about after that

do they just paradrop

[dusty sandal]

they're a decoy in MP, aimed to buy germany time and force the allies to build refineries

[rich plume]

so settled on something like this

[upper basin]

Also, idk about the others but I kinda pick the 6 months subscription instead of buying them all

[rich plume]

I hate subscriptions :D So it's no go for me

[upper basin]

Ah valid

[rich plume]

I'd rather wait for a sale, then get saddled with infinity subscription

[upper basin]

Sale huh...

That's Christmas for ya

Black Friday is already gone

[tepid umbra]

as long as you plan on owning that for a year and a half you'll be better off

[dusty sandal]

Basically, every MP game (competitive/serious) goes like this :
Germany builds up to kill soviets with hungary and romania
Bulgaria, spain and italy play firemen in europe to prevent DDay
Allies try to DDay to save soviets from getting rolled because if they cap, allies can't DDay
Raj and australia (replaced by mexico if there's one) and some US troops fight off japan to protect rubber and prevent japan from coming to africa and locking out the med
Japan tries to be as annoying as possible without dying

[tepid umbra]

not accounting for more dlcs releasing

[upper basin]

Yeah

Idk when they gonna release the allies expansion

[rich plume]

well, I do :) I tend to play games on and off, and return after a year+ and play more

[upper basin]

Should be around 3 months?

[tepid umbra]

which one

next dlc is q2 of 2026

and it's south asia focus trees

and military HQs

and ship captains

[dusty sandal]

this one I'm actually xited for

[tepid umbra]

also in q2 of 2026 is czechoslovakia focus tree

[dusty sandal]

that was a troll wasn't it ?

[tepid umbra]

I love when they do an entire dlc for one focus tree

[tepid umbra]

no 😭

[dusty sandal]

bruh

[upper basin]

OH??

[tepid umbra]

and it's prolly gonna be 15 USD

[tepid umbra]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3757310/Focus_Pack__Hearts_of_Iron_IV_Peace_For_Our_Time/

Steam

Focus Pack - Hearts of Iron IV: Peace For Our Time

The Allied betrayal of Czechoslovakia at Munich and the later German annexation of that country is a key moment in the historical march towards World War II in Europe. But imagine a world where the White Lion of Prague was prepared to face German aggression - bravery in the face of oppression. Explore that scenario in Peace for Our Time, a new F…

Price

$48.77

Release Date

Q2 2026

[upper basin]

It's not gonna be US expansion along with the allies expansion?

[tepid umbra]

ignore price that's for the whole expansion pass

[tepid umbra]

those are the next 2 major dlcs

so if that's coming it'll be either late 2026 or early 2027

[upper basin]

SEA expansion first???

OHH??

FINALLY

DEI shall crush the Japanese once again

But yes, I've been waiting for the Czech expansion like forever

Especially if poles are added as the part of western betrayal expansion pack (Czech+Poles) if that could happen

[tepid umbra]

it won't

the czech dlc is ONLY the czechs

[upper basin]

Ah sad

[tepid umbra]

literally nothing else

[upper basin]

New mechanics?

48$ is kinda expensive

[tepid umbra]

nope

[tepid umbra]

it won't be that much

[upper basin]

...

[tepid umbra]

that's the expansion pass price

[upper basin]

Ooh

[tepid umbra]

so it's 48$ including the other 2 dlcs and a few skins

[upper basin]

But seriously SEA expansion pack is gonna be added?

I heard it's gonna be Thailand only

Was hoping for the entire SEA lmao

[tepid umbra]

this expansion pass is ncns, a dlc with australia, siam, and indonesia, and a dlc with just the czechs

2 skin dlcs as well

since the expansion pass saves 20%, the remaining skin pack and other 2 dlcs will likely be around 25$

[scarlet heron]

Well that's 75% of the globe so would be quite a lot

[tepid umbra]

which would mean either the skin pack is free and the czech pack is 5 dollars, or I did my math wrong

or the south asia pack is 15$ but that doesn't sound like paradox

[upper basin]

South East Asia...

Not the entire sea in the world

[tepid umbra]

thailand is indochina right

they might make indochina seperate with the dlc if paradox wants to change up some things

[scarlet heron]

/s.

[upper basin]

Idk reddit

[tepid umbra]

that means sarcastic

[upper basin]

Ooh

[scarlet heron]

I don't think so

[upper basin]

Must buy haha

[tepid umbra]

oh wait no it is siam

[scarlet heron]

Yeah

[tepid umbra]

so it is getting reworked in the dlc

[upper basin]

Indochina consists of three nations if I remember correctly

[upper basin]

Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos

[tepid umbra]

here's the 2 dlc descriptions

[tepid umbra]

yeah

[scarlet heron]

A proper sea dlc, ship captains!!!

[upper basin]

Ooh good one

[tepid umbra]

prolly not that important

it's like the division commanders

[scarlet heron]

But the SEA

[tepid umbra]

they don't really matter too much

[scarlet heron]

The sea yearns

We will feed it with captains

[upper basin]

Ah c'mon

Why captains

Just admiral and we sleep

[scarlet heron]

More filling

[upper basin]

Fine fine

I hope they add unique units

Like human torpedoes or something

[scarlet heron]

To Italy?

[tepid umbra]

we need less projects 😭

there's already like 500000

[upper basin]

[stuck garnet]

Waow we have officers for navy

[stuck garnet]

Sorry chat we need more land projects

Idk shit about nuclear

Cause i never research nuclear

[tepid umbra]

Idc about land projects those are a decent number

Maybe even a bit low

Air projects are the problem

[stuck garnet]

And sky projects always cost a lot of points

[nocturne cloak]

shh

you are meant to take my side

[upper basin]

I haven't seen your Minecraft friend in a while

Did you lock him in your basement

[nocturne cloak]

@north quail come back pookie

the ppl miss you

he is on hoi rn

aura

[dark ginkgo]

I heard this is the standart template for garrisons against raising ressistance, is it right?

It seems rather... empty

[inner sparrow]

yeah that’s fine

either that one or just template with full cav

if u play vanilla u don’t wanna waste army xp on a template with full cav divs so u just use one with 1 cav div

or any cav div that has nothing else in it

[upper basin]

I'd rather not do the full cav, just go with one

And definitely never use your main army

[inner sparrow]

if u play with a mod that makes army template free its better

[upper basin]

It's gonna be expensive as heck

[inner sparrow]

but in vanilla don’t do it, its a waste of army xp

[nocturne cloak]

@upper basin are you single

[inner sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/958058230804795392/1346423662709837885/reuhrt.gif

[hollow linden]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233936964173172776/1278218861040111690/togif.gif

[upper basin]

...

Idk

[inner sparrow]

noob spotted

[upper basin]

Look, I have two girls that I haven't been in contact with

[nocturne cloak]

@hollow linden If you tried to answer every question correctly then your entire life becomes a test

[inner sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-gif-11018233488734545734

[hollow linden]

What 😭

[hollow linden]

What 💀

[nocturne cloak]

oh yeah bb

[hollow linden]

Is bro tryna give life advice rn 💀

[upper basin]

One is my gf, and we're now far from each other now and there's a girl that confessed to me like 10 months ago

[nocturne cloak]

none fo them come close to me

❤️

[upper basin]

I just wish I could be more of a man really

[inner sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1410034162202710086/1410087766972432496/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker_17.gif

creepe uk be like

frfr

[nocturne cloak]

you are doing fine

[hollow linden]

I didn't even play Saturday 😭

Wdym

[inner sparrow]

its a joke

[upper basin]

Eh, fools on me

[hollow linden]

It's not funny!!!!

[nocturne cloak]

@inner sparrow I am not even kidding im the best UK player here

[nocturne cloak]

you are perfect

[upper basin]

I've got one and I keep chasing another, even the first one doesn't know, that's just sad

[nocturne cloak]

Forget chasing girls

[inner sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1048812523345952819/1229817788835561512/caption.gif

[nocturne cloak]

chase your dreams

[inner sparrow]

this will be u

[upper basin]

I ended up leaving both, and now Hoi4 is the only one with me bruh

[nocturne cloak]

yp

yo

you wanna play this weekend

[upper basin]

[inner sparrow]

im playing rb already probably

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1026435545339006979/1365053967326904340/peace.gif

[nocturne cloak]

how good are you

[inner sparrow]

good for most standards

[nocturne cloak]

im still a better UK player

[inner sparrow]

join rb server then and proof yourself

[nocturne cloak]

say please

[inner sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-side-eye-gif-5016118126108679217

[upper basin]

I just know where this gonna go

[dark ginkgo]

quick question

when does Japan attack the phillipines and america goes to war/to the allies?

[upper basin]

Late 1941

[stuck garnet]

Ngl is mot rocket arty good

[dark ginkgo]

hmm

What should I pick, if I don't want war with america then?

at least not untill i got to capitulate GB and therefore the Allies

and soviets

[upper basin]

Idk about that, never tried the second one

[dark ginkgo]

then the first one it is

[nocturne cloak]

@upper basin How often is USA Civ boosting, USSR World tension spiking and Allied France hold all banned?

[stuck garnet]

Ussr world tension spiking?

[royal hazel]

Defeat Albania.

[nocturne cloak]

yes

[nocturne cloak]

r u single

[stuck garnet]

What that

[nocturne cloak]

read it out word by word

and that will explain it

[stuck garnet]

How tho

[nocturne cloak]

How or Why?

[stuck garnet]

How

I get why

[nocturne cloak]

Justify on the USA

[stuck garnet]

Good war support

Oh i thought france

I mean

Uk

[nocturne cloak]

No it boosts world tension helping the allies alot

due to war support and easier mobilization

[scenic nacelle]

1. Usually allowed
2. Not at all
3. It matters

Some allow a full hold

Some allow none

Some allow a hold for a year or 2

[inner sparrow]

civ boosting from usa is only banned in server that are coping and bad

usa should and needs to boost especially in early the ussr

[stuck garnet]

Yeah real

Only thing civs are good for in usa is inf building

[upper basin]

Usual, Nah, idk bout this

[dark ginkgo]

what is a good paratrooper division? I struggle with the naval invasion to land in GB

[upper basin]

Is there a server that ban civ boosting?

Why tho

[inner sparrow]

france hold is banned or restricted or coped modded out in most servers

if france wants to hold with entire allies they will hold

[stuck garnet]

Why even ban it

[inner sparrow]

because the game would be over in 39?

[stuck garnet]

Just invade belgium if youre that scared

[upper basin]

USA got penalties, so c'mon, you need infrastructure and civs to make it quite good, I don't see the reason for banning this

[stuck garnet]

Fair

[nocturne cloak]

what r u even saying bro

[inner sparrow]

you don’t kill france if france holds with the entire allies, its just too much ic for germany to handle in 39

[upper basin]

Valid

[stuck garnet]

Yeah fair

[nocturne cloak]

• they lose air

!

[inner sparrow]

nah u can win air early on as ger as long usa isn’t allowed to ll their heavy fighters till they join the war

axis only loses air the moment usa heavy fighters join

ofc that’s only the case if axis even try to contest

which they shouldn’t

[nocturne cloak]

Britain carries 💪

[scenic nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/rule-britannia-gif-4611085850072101161

[dark ginkgo]

speaking of wich

how can i effectivly attack britain as Germany? I... kinda ignored my navy in this run

[nocturne cloak]

did you win air

[dark ginkgo]

most of it is in the english canal, but not in england as a country

[nocturne cloak]

North Sea route

[dark ginkgo]

so not via the canal?

[nocturne cloak]

no

canal is aids

[scenic nacelle]

The English Channel is easier imo

Ports mouth+dover

If it’s sp they can’t do much

[nocturne cloak]

just get lucky in the north sea

wait till they move navy and launch instantly!

[dark ginkgo]

hot daymn I got it

But it's only 4 motorized lol

[nocturne cloak]

you already won

[dark ginkgo]

i am loosing the defence :c

[nocturne cloak]

make sure you get supplies

[dark ginkgo]

how can I get supplies over there?

found it

aaaand i lost dover again

[nocturne cloak]

escort convoys

[dark ginkgo]

i basically have no more navy

GB destroys it very fast

[nocturne cloak]

play this weekend

[scenic nacelle]

Expand

[dark ginkgo]

huh?

[dark ginkgo]

i landed right next to portsmouth and got it as well as dover again :D

[nocturne cloak]

we are doing a game this weekend

come play!

[dark ginkgo]

uh...

i can't sadly, bc i get home so I can't play till beginning of janurary

and i'm not that comfy with speaking in english qwq

[nocturne cloak]

which language do you speak

[dark ginkgo]

german

[nocturne cloak]

german so tuff

[glacial steeple]

gm

[dark ginkgo]

i'm reloading

i just lost 30 divs in england

[sinful vessel]

Moutaneer, desert, etc are only general trait or could a marechal also use them ?

[stuck garnet]

Isnt that called like an air gamble or smth

[glacial steeple]

both

[upper basin]

I think that's the cancel MEFO bill

[stuck garnet]

Is cancelling mefo good

[nocturne cloak]

cancel mefo bills so good

[upper basin]

Good imo

Garrison troll however

[inner sparrow]

yes that’s an air gamble

[upper basin]

Empty CV sometimes banned, sometimes not, but I hope it's always banned cuz too repetitive

[sinful vessel]

but they are easyer to get on a general, right ? (i'm thinking about grinding a good marshall, and i'm wondering if i should grind him as a general at first)

[inner sparrow]

air gamble it when axis puts most mils on air and tries to contest allies air superiority so ur right

[glacial steeple]

well the effect is halved for an FM, you can put either on the general slot to grind

[inner sparrow]

not really, its fine but keeping them is better imo

unless you really struggle with managing them

[sinful vessel]

just the efect is halved ? I thought it was also the xp earnt

[upper basin]

But most of them would be weak fighters

Till you get good CAS

[nocturne cloak]

they lose either way brah

[inner sparrow]

no? italy rushes improve airframe and u have german stats with 2 armor plate which us very good for fighters

[inner sparrow]

they don’t unless brazil ac

u can air gamble in vanilla pretty consistently

because of 2 armor plates ger ac fighters

[upper basin]

Hmmm aight

I think France hold is kinda banned from some places

[inner sparrow]

main reason for air gamble working is soviets being too weak so even with axis going air gamble in vanilla, ussr dies anyways

[upper basin]

Or maybe all ban this

[inner sparrow]

most servers ban it

or mod it out

[upper basin]

Yeah

[nocturne cloak]

how many mils does axis usually put on air

before 1940

[inner sparrow]

depends on how much air the allies put

[upper basin]

USSR spike tension, I think it's quite horrendous

[inner sparrow]

but 150 on air and ur gambling

[upper basin]

Idk but I've never seen someone use it

[inner sparrow]

and u always check enemy air count

if they go a lot higher u go too

[nocturne cloak]

How much does the UK tend to put

[inner sparrow]

depends on how much air the axis is putting. Rule of thumb is always more than your enemy to get air superiority

there is no fixed amount

also uk is less important for air, usa has better fighters so usually uk does the cas

unless axis is air gambling

[native gorge]

Best DLC i can get? Im on a budget i cant get more than one

[upper basin]

NSB or AAT

No step back or Army against tyranny

[inner sparrow]

NSB

[upper basin]

Both if you could get it

Because international market is pretty fun to use

And Mio's

Just go tail or head

[native gorge]

Darn on one hand i want to get the army spirits

But on the other hand I WANT THE NORDIC FOCUS TREES 😭

[upper basin]

Head for NSB tail for AAT

Both good

[native gorge]

Tails

[upper basin]

You got tails?

[native gorge]

Alright then

[upper basin]

Ooh okay

[kind bloom]

hey guys

what are the best special projects

in uh

land

[inner sparrow]

flame tanks and armored support vehicle

[kind bloom]

and naval too

[upper basin]

Nuclear submarine

Idk what else

[kind bloom]

oh

anechoic tiles too I think

[upper basin]

True

Nuclear torpedo

Tons of nuclear armaments for navy

[native gorge]

Is the "press this button to nuke this tile" part of Götterdammerung?

[upper basin]

Gotterdammerung add nukes, yes

[native gorge]

Wait nukes aren't part of base game?

[upper basin]

Eh no no

They exist in base game

[kind bloom]

damn I never even knew they existed

[upper basin]

I'm trying to say Gotterdammerung adds more choices for nukes

[kind bloom]

never got that far in the game

[native gorge]

Ah

So i cant just nuke the entire frontline in base game essentially

Sadge

[kind bloom]

lmao

[upper basin]

You don't need to have dlc to have nukes

[kind bloom]

the real nightmare is trying to do nuke strikes in this time of age

they dont always work

[upper basin]

You can do research

[kind bloom]

do nuclear torpedoes

uh

[pliant condor]

there is a hard cap on how high you can go as uk

because you use up all the air base very quickly

you never wanna go above like 150

and in pure vanilla africa air is basically free

you also don't need to go high at all

[nocturne cloak]

is that pure vanilla?

[pliant condor]

yeah

[nocturne cloak]

max i do is like 90

why would you even need that much

[pliant condor]

well you would have 90 on it at danzig

you probably shouldn't go below 90

why wouldn't you go higher?

[nocturne cloak]

at which point can you know that you have most likely won air

[opaque garden]

looks cool

and to bomb danzig

for no reason

anyways ima leave

[pliant condor]

90 mil is nothing

90 is like if the axis is having nothing on air

then you might stay at 90

and usa go 100

[nocturne cloak]

so what year are you having 150 on air till

[pliant condor]

well if axis is air gambling probably for the whole game

or go down when you start making CAS

[nocturne cloak]

is 75/25 fighters and cas good

[pliant condor]

when

also all of this has to do with what your usa is doing

[scenic nacelle]

Don’t forget to make naval bombers

[nocturne cloak]

yes

[nocturne cloak]

1940 i think

or 41

[scenic nacelle]

I forgot them once then ruined the game🥀

[pliant condor]

just put destroyers out

[pliant condor]

what else would you be building with another 100 mils in 1940...?

[nocturne cloak]

tanks

inf

[inner sparrow]

tanks as uk?

[nocturne cloak]

not 1940

75/25 1940-41

[inner sparrow]

or do u mean recon and flame?

for your special forces

[pliant condor]

ok how many mils do you have in jan 1940

[nocturne cloak]

something like along the art of pleasure

[scenic nacelle]

Put everything on Strat bombers 🗣️

[pliant condor]

tanks(if you mean recon and light) is fine

you probably don't wanna make inf tho

you need gun 3

to go up

[nocturne cloak]

like 90

[pliant condor]

?

are you playing with ai

[nocturne cloak]

you are ai?

[nocturne cloak]

MP, France lived long and Germany never tried sealion!

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this either means you are really bad, and/or your team is really bad😭

ideally you have double this number

even in singleplayer you should have more than this

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are you insane

nobody is getting 180 mils on vanilla uk

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hes right tho

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start of 1940

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90 mils in 1940 is low

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and 180 is good?

get outta here

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in your eyes then how much mils does soviets get before barb starts or ger

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so if you hop into

a game rn

as the UK

you would get 180 mils 1940 Jan

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I don’t play uk, im only saying from experience the mil count my enemy uks have in my games

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I won't, because it

it

singleplayer

but still i would get way more than 90

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my game wasnt MP

i just looked at recording

it was SP

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???

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bro

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U just said it was mp 😭

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wrong game

Read please!

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ok next time you play mp make sure you yell at your team to trade you

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okay so

what is a good sp mil count

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if you play pure vanilla, annex british malaya with ocmpliance

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1940

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that's like 20 factory of trade

probably like 100 - 120

depends on if you are greedy

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how good is annexing malaya

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it is essential in mp

so all the rubber trade goes to you

instead of some random ai/ai puppet

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yers

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like usa and all the minors would buy rubber off you

you should be having like 50 civs from trade at danzig

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okay so

very different from sp

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oh also dismantle your faction day 1

make a new industry one

it's free 10% construction speed and 10 output

let me run a game in sp rn

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Oh?

Sounds fun

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How do I win Germany Civil War?

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use ur tanks and push to the czech border

go down and encircle the southern divs

kill them

then just battleplan the north

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What if I dont have tanks I will do it instant at 1936 when I start.

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u do have tanks at start?

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No

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yes

u start with 3 tanks divs at game start

2 at war start

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ok

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work on both enemy navy and coastal cities

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ok lol

even in sp

90 is crazy

look at this