ask-for-help-here

[glacial steeple]

theyre good, self propelled is better

doesnt limit speed

[static turret]

""?

[glacial steeple]

tanks usually wanna go like 5-6kmh

ish

[wild rune]

The meta has been that forever gng

[glacial steeple]

maybe more if you feel fancy

[narrow grail]

How do you calculate distances on map for terms of air force/navy range?

[static turret]

not rlly

[static turret]

aight

[narrow grail]

Not 8 along with mot infantry?

[hasty belfry]

I’m going Monarchist Italy. I got solid progress and thus have the new emperor of Ethiopia and the compliance and non-core manpower buffs that brings. Should I still release Italian East Africa or just hold onto it?

[narrow grail]

Wait I've just checked mot infantry has 12kph

Maybe it's mechs that have 8

[pliant condor]

yes

but that's not a relevant stat

[glacial steeple]

its just preference

you need to go over 4kmh to not get overran by inf

thats why 5-6 kmh ish

doesnt rlly matter otherwise

[narrow grail]

so it can be 4 if I do some tanks I put into inf just for armor

[glacial steeple]

you win vs ai faster with higher speed

it doesnt give more stats tho

[glacial steeple]

you always do that?

also dont do it for armor

[narrow grail]

Never I'm just thinking

[glacial steeple]

breakthrough is valuable as a stat and its what inf lacks

[glacial steeple]

its always lowest speed of batallions in div

if you do inf tanks you always trade off speed for relia

[narrow grail]

Yes I know but why don't you want tanks be overrun by inf?

Because they are stronger and take conquered tiles first?

[glacial steeple]

do you understand overrunning

when you retreat/force retreat from a tile you use fuel reserves

those run out

if youre not far enough and infantry moves in first (enemy) you get overrun

and you lose the unit

[vital geode]

Tanks getting overran by inf is a certified bruh moment

[pliant condor]

you can't have speed lower than 4

or ok over running is just a meme

[vital geode]

1.0 km/h (out of fuel)

[pliant condor]

the base ahh

[glacial steeple]

i think its important to go a bit faster not that it costs much to get that speed

[vital geode]

Random playthrough idea

Armored Car UK

They got a designer and a new subdoctrine

And army maneuver genius

[narrow grail]

So it disappears like if encircled?

[vital geode]

Yeah

[wild rune]

AC Brazil

[vital geode]

You overran it and the division explodes because you took the tile it was retreating to

[narrow grail]

And overruning happens only with significant fuel deficit? Even if tank is faster than inf but due to 0 fuel it slows down

[vital geode]

You can overrun inf easily with fast tanks

[narrow grail]

I meant case when tanks are ones who get overran by inf

Which should happen once in blue moon or in Siberia/Amazonia

[rugged rover]

does germany declare war on you as hungary if you puppet czechs?

i was playing earlier and they declared on me after sudet

[narrow grail]

yes

[glacial steeple]

it doesnt happen often its just a thing you should somewhat prevent

especially if fighting under red air

[pliant condor]

it basically never happen unless you make units specifically for it

[narrow grail]

so annex czechs and if germany demanded sudetenland you can release czechia and german focus will bypass @rugged rover

[pliant condor]

and over running by ai obviously just never happen

[pliant condor]

sounds like a free Germany annex

[rugged rover]

how do i annex them the event makes them a puppet

[narrow grail]

which event?

[rugged rover]

the "bohemia returns the crown" or somthing

idk there may be multiple

[narrow grail]

With this event I had Germany asking for Sudetenland either late enough for me to beat their ass or they just didn't ask at all, for some reason

To annex Czechoslovakia you have to take this focus

If you bring Otto von Habsburg ofc

[rugged rover]

ohhhh

ty

[brisk plank]

can anyone tell me why im taking more casuallities then germany? They're litteraly only force attacking and im defending with forts

[wooden pawn]

whats the requirements for romania accepting this

[dusty sandal]

this isn't force attack
they're attacking a plain tile and you're losing the battle. The forst is probably very much damaged, you're getting bombed into shitter by planes and your divs don't have enough soft attack to deal meaningful damage to the enemy

they're also only attacking a single tile while concentrating their forces. attacking from multiple direction reduces the fort effectiveness and they are outnumbering you both in numbers and quality

[brisk plank]

My forts are destroyed and im getting bombed allot but idk why i wouldn't have enough soft attack

aa and artillery

[dusty sandal]

I gotta go so I can't help much more rn, ping me tomorrow if nobody's got to you then

[wild rune]

Read

[inner sparrow]

what do ur divs look like, and can u send a screenshot of combat and hover over modifiers

[brisk plank]

it has gotten allot better after they redirected their attacks

[wet topaz]

Well that’s why

Your hp is 154

[rugged rover]

is protect czechslovakia rng?

[wet topaz]

152.4*

[brisk plank]

is that bad?

[wet topaz]

It’s really low

[brisk plank]

well, how do i better it

[wet topaz]

You need more infantry battalions in a division

Like 9 or so probably (9 in the division)

But it’ll cost a ton more guns

[inner sparrow]

go 16w, the hp isnt bad for small inf and the thought behind the division design isnt bad but not what u need rn

[wet topaz]

You have a 12 w rn and that’s good for org cycling but if u are worried about losses yeah go 16 or 18 combat width

[inner sparrow]

theres also other stuff on top of why u lost more mp at the beginning but its mostly just smal things adding on top of eachother

[wet topaz]

Smaller divisions = more losses but more defense power

16 and 18 is the sweet spot for minimizing losses but very good defense

[brisk plank]

aight i'll redesign

[wet topaz]

Make sure u have the guns tho

Rather it be a small width than be -20k guns

[brisk plank]

is there a way to maintain the experience?

like when i have to delete a few divs to make the others bigger

[wet topaz]

Yeah, there’s a consolidate button

When you highlight multiple units in a general there’s an option to consolidate the battalions

Saves the xp and merges them

[brisk plank]

aight ty :)

[vale basin]

i started a 1939 game and the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was already signed. Yet the Soviets didn’t attack Poland with me, does anyone know why?

[wet topaz]

Doesn’t happen

Paradox never worked that historical fact into the game

Because of how the game works then the ussr would be at war with the Allies and that’s not historical

[copper birch]

Can someone give me some advice how to win Spanish Civil War?(As Carlist/Nationalist/Falangna)

[torn thorn]

i cant seem to figure out how to carry out sealion. I've decided to avoid the english channel and tried going through the north sea, and waited for my naval invasion to prepare itself. I send around 80 ships, along with naval bombers and fighters to the area, but I always fail to gain naval dominance. Usually, my entire navy vanishes after a month or two. One time, I did manage to send 6 divisions, but I forgot to hold the port and got encircled when I went too deep in. Any ideas how to maintain naval supremacy?

[wet topaz]

You are going to need to naval bomb the channel and port strike southern England

You are going to lose a lot of navs because of the AA but it’s worth

And you probably want to build a real fleet

[pliant condor]

paradrop

[wet topaz]

Build light cruisers from the start with the best armour you can and max light attack. You don’t need any research to do this

[pliant condor]

or do the raiding cruiser focus and keep clicking the decision to spawn light cruiser

[torn thorn]

how many vessels and what should my composition be?

[pliant condor]

build light cruisers

[pliant condor]

and do the focus "cruiser warfare"
design a interwar cruiser with the name "Hilfskreuzer" then the spawn-in ships would follow the template

technically you can get a large enough navy to kill uk without building anything

by just clicking the button

[torn thorn]

should i also actively build docks

[torn thorn]

also, I dont think I can design ships

[pliant condor]

how

man the gun should be free now

you should be able to

[wet topaz]

No, not needed

[wet topaz]

Spam light cruisers

Composition should be all of your surface ships in one big “doomstack”

[minor wagon]

@glacial steeple I found out what was happening, when you go to the Army view (F1) there is a pop up showing the dominance of the other countries

[torn thorn]

oh i didnt know they made it free

[torn thorn]

in that case, i would invade through the channel and not the north sea right

[ancient stirrup]

How do you disband a faction with ncns?

[torn thorn]

also, how many mils should i use for naval bombers

[wide citrus]

Need help understanding out why I don't have enough supply or if this is a bug.
Fully upgraded naval base, naval supply, and supply hub. At peace with max fuel and enough convoys.
Unsure why demanded supplies is not the same, fleet says supply demanded 16.76 while the naval supply hub says supply demanded by ships is 5.61 which correctly shows up as supply received from the hub by the fleet.
From what I understand there should be plenty available given the hub is at 6/29.
Bottlenecks is at 29 supply which should be enough.

Another example with fleet in capital where I built max naval base/hubs.
Is there a penalty for supply when stacking units?

[pliant condor]

This number means that the hub itself has enough supply capacity, it doesn't mean a specific tile have enough supply if you have a bunch of divs(or ship)

solution is to spam more level 1 ports and connect them with rail to the high level port

don't level up ports

it's like you won't have supply if you stack 100 divisions on one tile, even if it's a suppply hub

if you move your fleet to the seazone it should be able to draw supply from multiple ports

like if you move it from tokyo to the ocean

[wide citrus]

I dont understand what this means. Isnt that number how much supply the hub can provide to units within its range?
Like 6/29 means it can provide 29 supply and 6 is currently in use by units within range?

[pliant condor]

yes

but it doesn't mean it can provide 29 supply to units on one tile

it means among all the units that draw supply from the hub, there is a maximum of 29

[pliant condor]

look at how tokyo is purple

[wet topaz]

Yes

[wide citrus]

Every taskforce has 58% supplies received.
I haven't played in a while and I feel like something changed with supply or this is a bug or I'm misremembering.
Iirc having a doomstack fleet and parking it on your capital shouldnt have any supply issues, no?

[wet topaz]

Prob 10-20

[wet topaz]

Pretty sure you need the support ships for big fleets

I could be wrong

But I think you need the ship that gives supply to support doomstack ships now

Because one supply hub cannot supply the entire fleet anymore

[wide citrus]

one of these taskforces has 7 supply ships and still has 58% supply received

yeah im wondering if it was an update that changed supply to discourage doomstacks

[noble pivot]

confused. trying to do navel raids and patrols but it keeps saying no accessible regions when my fleet is docled in the region?

[wide citrus]

i feel like you used to be able to supply the pacific fleet doomstack as america with an upgraded base is hawaii too

[wet topaz]

Also, I think your supply is coming from Hiroshima not Tokyo

Check what Hiroshima port says

[wet topaz]

You now have to set a home base for your fleet to access a region

[wide citrus]

thats a different smaller fleet before i started testing

[wet topaz]

So when you click your admiral there’s a button that shows where it’s home base is

Set it to the best port in the region with range

[wide citrus]

yeah i did that with the split taskforces near tokyo

set as tokyo home base

[wet topaz]

Oh no I was talking to the other guy

I think you just genuinely need a lot more supply ships

I’ve noticed the same issue with supply but I kinda just spam support ships in like 1941 and get enough to supply my fleet

[ivory wraith]

So with the new DLC doctrines, is line artillery viable again?

[wet topaz]

Ye it’s chill now

[noble pivot]

bruhhh thanks

[wet topaz]

Np

[ivory wraith]

like old school 21 width arty tight again?

[wet topaz]

I hated that change too

[wet topaz]

Well it won’t be 21 width

Because to make it good u need the doctrine that makes it 2.2 width

[ivory wraith]

oh wow

[wet topaz]

Remove 1 inf and u good

[ivory wraith]

this one I assume?

[wet topaz]

That’s a good basic inf

[wet topaz]

Yeah

[ivory wraith]

noice

[wet topaz]

Idk if this it’s the meta but I like for Japan: individual excellence, fire concentration, grand assault (or whatever it’s called with the 10% planning)

[wide citrus]

Can you stack like 100 divs in your capital and not get supply penalties?
Never tried it before but this might show if my something is broken with my game instead

[wet topaz]

The hp individual excellence makes me feel good when I have 7k casualties after 2 years of fighting allies and 3m inflicted

And I can stack more arty in them and have good org and hp

[wet topaz]

No you still will get supply issues

It’s not infinite supply it’s just more

[torn thorn]

alright thanks. one more thing, for the custom modules on the light cruisers, would i just have all of them as light battery ii

[devout ocean]

I assume the enemy loosing 60+ planes and me loosing like 5-10 is pretty good ratio in the air battles?

[untold monolith]

yep, a 2:1 ratio or higher is always good so you're doing well

[hollow eagle]

What makes the soviet supply system trash

[untold monolith]

lot of troops and not a lot of good rail networks

[devout ocean]

This is my 1940 airframe.

(I have the MIO on it)

[slow finch]

1

[orchid dawn]

Every time i try to do a 1v1 multiplayer on vanilla the other person gets 1000+ ping immediately and does not progress when unpaused. Any fixes?

[leaden estuary]

I accidentally did annex all how do I get my old save back?

[tiny bough]

I can't for the life of me figure out how the hell to nucelar strike with a rocket

I only see option for bombers even though it's within rocket range

[glacial steeple]

this patch is rough for mp

[glacial steeple]

reload autosave

[glacial steeple]

you need nuclear missiles, not just any rocket

[tiny bough]

DLC?

[glacial steeple]

which you need to produce and deploy

[orchid dawn]

i mean this isnt even rough its like impossible haha, do we just gotta wait for a optimization update?

[tiny bough]

is it part of a DLC?

[glacial steeple]

no iirc it isnt

[tiny bough]

mm

I have all research, never seen "Nucelar missile"

[glacial steeple]

it should be a special project

[tiny bough]

done all of them

[glacial steeple]

sp_ra if commands

then youll have to use bombers

[tiny bough]

I have Advanced Guided Missile III

ok

I guess it's a DLC thing

[glacial steeple]

yesh thts useless

doesnt fire nukes

[tiny bough]

it's just UI tooltip is misleading me, but it does that a lot

shows me info on DLC content

[neat widget]

Hey guys

what is the best thing to spend my breakthrough on

[glacial steeple]

tiles, carrier

or wait on proxy fuse

[cold plaza]

what focuses give me a war goal on the low countries when playing monarchist germany? (with got)

[night temple]

U saying 9/1 divs are back?

[glacial steeple]

theyve never been in....

[mystic wharf]

I have a question I'd like to ask: for the achievement "Media Mughal", should it also be allowed to trigger when playing as Afghanistan, not only British Raj? Because as fas I'm concerned, this achievement only triggers when I play as Raj and meet the requirements, but Afghanistan can also become Mughal Empire via tech tree.

[neat widget]

whoops I may have done it too quickly

I can't even take Sichuan and Guangdong clique

[devout ocean]

I don't even know how people play as Japan, not usre even how to.

[uneven hinge]

I'm confused how plane upgrades are supposed to work. Say I design new CAS or Fighters with the latest tech, how come I'm still producing the old fighters even when they're not on the menu and why do those appear when I select airbases instead of the new ones?

[devout ocean]

Convert them into the new model once you have enough new ones produced.

[neat widget]

Sichuan cilque is just not joining the United Front 😭

[devout ocean]

Kill them.

[neat widget]

I can't kill them if they don't join the United Front

[devout ocean]

Rip.. have you got advice on playing Japan??

[neat widget]

#ask-for-help-here message

Also declare war on China sometime in 1937

[mint kite]

Torpedo cruiser

[sinful vessel]

why is this one usefull ?

[mint kite]

Good ship

[sinful vessel]

I play without the specific DLC, though i still have some special research, i often don't know wich one are usefull.

For navy, i like the long range sub. The pocket sounds useless. Then ultra heavy and torpedoe cruiser idk.

[winged panther]

Why am I not getting range

[sinful vessel]

Change you port i think. It is written San Diego on your fleet

[winged panther]

OH WOW

i forgot that

[wet topaz]

I know that t happens to me all the time

[sinful vessel]

i'm new, but it's something everybody is saying in the channel, so i start to know it 😉

[wet topaz]

It’s really dumb, especially when I go “purge the traitors” path and can’t justify

[sinful vessel]

With Italy, to try to expand pre war, do i have to justify against greece or could i have it by some other way ?

[winged panther]

in the focus tree

extreme right

war with greece

[sinful vessel]

ok thanks. I don't know how much i could have, but Yougoslavia and Greece would be good to be a bit more consistent in ww2 ^^

[winged panther]

BRO OMFG

I CANT WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THIS NEW NAVY

Im continuously losing my marines

WHY AM I NOT GETTING SUPREMACY

WHEN I HAVE 1000 ships

BROOO

[sinful vessel]

I've heard that the problem is often mainly in the number of ship with the "patrol" order, as the task force order doesn't give any supremacy, but just a multiplier to the supremacy created by patrol

[winged panther]

OHHH

thansk

[hollow linden]

Strike Force doesn't give supremacy by itself. Put 1 dd on patrol on never engage then strike force the sea zone with the rest of your fleet

Also set Home base

[winged panther]

i had done exactly that

[glacial steeple]

they made strike force use fuel 💔

[hollow linden]

Ouch

[glacial steeple]

just patrol fr

[glacial steeple]

i found out afte rplaying japan and suddenly being out of fuel even tho i only had subs yk patrolling

against china

[calm forge]

do you get more operatives from upgrading ur agency?

[lofty totem]

it bugs out after japan annexes manchuria

[glacial steeple]

1 after 5

[sinful vessel]

How long a division stay acclimated ?

[atomic crag]

lads am i cooked?

also yes i'm playing the horse mod

[unreal pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/tonistark-gif-9847010119763163028

[atomic crag]

i wasn't expecting the french horses to attack me as well since theyre in a different faction 😭

[opaque beacon]

they have republican pact spirit

[hollow linden]

Until they move out or it gets warmer/colder

Acclamation really is a nothing burger though

[atomic crag]

aight so should i have declared on one of them earlier before they all declared on me?

[opaque beacon]

no

you should hold line in south and rush to cap republic in north

or restart with game rules so one of them go monarchist

oh com'on

<@&846894118219022336>

scammer alert

[languid trout]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

[atomic crag]

aight will try a new game soon

did notice they have barely any troops in the republic

although vedina and whatever that other nation on top of the republic was on their side too so if i cap them its still a two front war

idk if i had enough troops for even just the south

[glacial steeple]

hi chat

how do you keep a cat calm while in a train

[mint kite]

Seems like a mod issue

Probably not yet compatible

[lofty totem]

cant be, my mods were working fine earlier this week

[mint kite]

x to doubt

[dusty briar]

so ummm how do I get resources?
I'm missing a crapton of steel and coal

[hollow linden]

Trade, decisions, infrastructure, focuses

Trade law

Go down to limited exports if needed

You never wanna go closed though unless you are literally unable to Trade with anybody

[quasi dagger]

can anybody give me a good inf dev for germany?

[hollow linden]

Any of these will do

[hollow linden]

The large ones are for inf only ofc

[quasi dagger]

is thisone a multi role?

[hollow linden]

Wym multi role?

[quasi dagger]

like it can attack and defend?

[hollow linden]

You don't make templates for specific purposes, either it dies or it doesn't

[hollow linden]

Sure

With enough cas

[quasi dagger]

kk cuz some ppl make defends and attack divs b ut thx dude

[hollow linden]

That usually depends on the width

Larger cw us usually for attacking, small for defending

[quasi dagger]

do you have a good tank dev if i can ask?

[quasi dagger]

holy soft attack

[hollow linden]

Stats are slightly different I used fixed superstructure and heavy howi

So do that if you have it. If not howi 2 is fine aswell

[quasi dagger]

kk thx bro

[sinful vessel]

If i plan with a marshall, will it also benefit for my general (trait wise) ?

[hollow linden]

Your marshal traits impact the stats of your divisions aswell, so not having a marshal just makes your divs worse

Its free stats

[sinful vessel]

I mean, if i make a battle plan, my marshall will earn points for his battle plan trait. Will also my generals under him ?

[sleek remnant]

This is the new meta, right?

[vapid pulsar]

Has someone made a route for prc to get all 3 achievements in one run

[hollow linden]

Yes

[hollow linden]

For sp sure

[inner sparrow]

its just old howy tanks diff but instead of howy tank u use spg

[hollow linden]

Actually mp too if u make heavy spg

[sinful vessel]

And vice versa ?

[hollow linden]

Atp it's a kick if get doesn't

[hollow linden]

Wdym?

Oh yes, they will

[sinful vessel]

if i plan with my general, my marshall will also get plan point for trait ?

[hollow linden]

Yes

[sinful vessel]

ty

Always here when i ask ^^

[sleek remnant]

Are tanks any useful for sp now?

[hollow linden]

Oh no absolutely not

[sinful vessel]

sp ?

[hollow linden]

Inf is still insane

[sinful vessel]

solo play sorry

[hollow linden]

Especially after the update

[hollow linden]

Singleplayer

[sleek remnant]

Me when I can combine mass assault with gbp:

[inner sparrow]

there is no mass assault anymore

it got nuked

sfp is inf doctrine now

[sinful vessel]

Though i'm still playing with tanks because it's more "rp" ^^

[sleek remnant]

I meant the combat width reduction since everyone can access it now

[sleek remnant]

Defensive infantry?

Sfp still not being good with artillery 😭

[inner sparrow]

cw reduction is whatever, mass assault right had other buffs that made u take it like the reinforce rate and manpower u get, and those got nuked

[sleek remnant]

Well I guess inf guns are also considered fire power

[inner sparrow]

u wont get mass moab inf like last update anymore

now u just get stat bloated inf

[sleek remnant]

So tanks are bad
Inf is broken
Is there any other change?

[inner sparrow]

tanks are good

tanks are op

but it’s not needed in sp

u can win without it

[sleek remnant]

Why not use sp artillery instead?

[hollow linden]

Tanks aren't bad, inf is just easier

[inner sparrow]

line artillery?

line ary is extremely shit at attacking if you mean that

[sleek remnant]

I forgot the name
Spg? Howitzer tank?
The thing that got buffed this update, 3 width to 2

[inner sparrow]

yes spgs

[hollow linden]

Spg

Spgs are tanks

[inner sparrow]

thats what he sent in before

[hollow linden]

Same shit

[inner sparrow]

spgs are tanks

its the same design as howy tanks but u just change its role in the tank designer

[sleek remnant]

Oh by tanks I meant the normal tanks without any special role

[hollow linden]

They are just shit now ye

Cuz spgs have been buffed so much

[sleek remnant]

Still waiting for an actual line arty buff
Maybe one day

[hollow linden]

It has been buffed. Just not to the extent it'll be useful

[sleek remnant]

Idk how much the new combat width reduction thing improved it
Maybe more useable (even though still suboptimal) now? But idk if they changed anything else

[hollow linden]

Yea more usable, you're still better without it

Cuz hp and org, all the same

Inf simply doesn't need stats, so why try and make it have stats

That's what tanks are for

[inner sparrow]

main reason is the lack of break it has

[fading ibex]

What would be a good infantry subdoctrine be for germany and 2nd subdoctrine (i forgot the name) Mp btw

[inner sparrow]

good luck attacking with a division that has no break :D

[sleek remnant]

One part of me wants strong line arty, other part wants it to be nerfed so much that people who always uses it no matter what they hear suffer xD

[sudden heart]

how tf are all of these ships without supply?

[inner sparrow]

good sub docs for inf are something like this, instead of irregular go great war for more def or the cw reduction

irregulars is only good if u play a country that lacks mp

[sleek remnant]

Unrelated to the game but how was artillery in real life?
Would it have more breakthrough? I think no combat width. Idk how effective it was on attack/defence though

[fading ibex]

I cant read the 2nd one is it the AT one?

[inner sparrow]

arty and grenade weapons in general were responsible for nearly the most amount of casualties irl

[glacial steeple]

clown why do you have a 100 pixel screen

[inner sparrow]

mb for bad quality but yeah for mp it is

[fading ibex]

Alright

[inner sparrow]

not mine

took it from rommel

u can take siege arty for sp btw and mp the at one

in sp the arty doctrines is kinda meh

[glacial steeple]

❌

[inner sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmmmmmm-hmmmmmm-hmmmm-hm-hmm-gif-2339932555530048784

[dusty briar]

doing the tutorial september 1936 Im still stuck in Ethiopia right in front of Abba what do I do?

[sinful vessel]

you may have supply trouble

Could you screenshot where you are ?

[sinful vessel]

Yes all your divisions lack supply

[dusty briar]

so what do I do about that?

[sinful vessel]

I'm a new player, so you may find better advices, though i'm myself in an italian game.
Your south front seems easier now, you could put more division in and try to push from there.

[dusty briar]

ah k how do I get more divisions there?

[sinful vessel]

You should also click twice on this button for both your armies, it make them use truck instead of horses for supply. This should help your north army to recover, then it could restart to push.

Other thing you can do is buit railway in the territory you've just conquered, then it would be easier for supply to come to you from your ports.

[sinful vessel]

Select unused division, then right click your south generals. And maybe also select some from the north and do the same thing

Have you also put your aviation into the battla ?

[dusty briar]

yes

tho they're barely in range here

[hollow linden]

Aussa is supposed to be annexed. Restart and if by April 36 you don't get an event, restart until you get it

If you're lacking that hub its gg

[sinful vessel]

Yes, thats true. If you push south, you should max this zone

[hearty mason]

I've built both the armored train and 1 railway gun

How do I deploy them? I can't find them ont he map

[hollow linden]

Armored train is in your stockpile and is automatically used for transport of supply. Railway guns deploy like divisions into your capital once produced

[hearty mason]

The railway gun automatically deploys?

[glacial steeple]

conc or disp eco

[analog maple]

how do i take netherland early game without uk getting involved?

[sinful vessel]

I don't know if it's possible

[hollow linden]

Don't cause over 25% world tension

So ideally do it before Anschluss

[mystic otter]

As you start the game instantly justify on them

[sacred patrol]

how can i like earn more manpower

[summer nymph]

Increase your conscription law, or some nations have focuses or advisors that give recruitable population factor or population growth.

[hollow linden]

Go up in conscription law

Political tab, on the very left below leader portrait

[sleek remnant]

What would be the most fun Korea gameplay hmmmm
Free or puppet?
Join or oppose Japanese?
Maybe mess with some alt history settings but idk

[odd herald]

Iv never won against the soviets as romania, any tips ?

[neat widget]

why do you have 479 political power

[minor wagon]

Hold the line till germany begins to attack em, then, do as many encirclements as possible

[odd herald]

you cant physically hold the line

as romania you have 4 stell barely making any guns 40% infrastructure

in all areas

[neat widget]

Romania typically joins the war some days after Germany

But let's say that the Soviets declare war in 1936 through the Turkish straits events

[odd herald]

yeah but what if it dosent seceed bassarabia

i tried today

[fading ibex]

Hold the river

[minor wagon]

Do a retreat line

[odd herald]

i got killed in like 5 months

with like 80 divisions

[neat widget]

Yeah your best bet is probably to defend the river line

[odd herald]

you cant

i had all level 5 forts

everywhere

[neat widget]

Or also there's the case where the Soviets declare on Bessarabia

[minor wagon]

What are your templates?

[fading ibex]

You def cant with 10 barely equipped divs lol

[odd herald]

my templates was 1 support arty 1 sapper 7 infantry and 1 arty

for tanks 4 light 4 trucks same for support

[fading ibex]

Dont even do light tanks

[minor wagon]

Tanks are too expensive

[odd herald]

you cant physically do anything else

[fading ibex]

Spam infantry?

[odd herald]

you get like 3 full divisions of lights from focus tree

[minor wagon]

Remove all factories from tanks and trucks and focus on more infantry divisions

[odd herald]

soviets have better tanks

aka death

[fading ibex]

Its AI...

[odd herald]

cuz you cant rush the anti tank

[fading ibex]

Unless ur talking mp

[odd herald]

no

its pure veteran mode ai

[fading ibex]

Yeah so their tanks suck

[odd herald]

no

[fading ibex]

ai doesnt know how to make tanks

Yes

[minor wagon]

Are you doing historical or non historical?

[odd herald]

historical

i dont let em take bassarabia

[minor wagon]

When do they ask it

[odd herald]

i do 2 defensive fronts

1 at river

[odd herald]

1940

[minor wagon]

Plenty of time

[odd herald]

gang i built everything up

[fading ibex]

@odd herald im sorry but ur def doing something wrong

[odd herald]

even tried some airforce

[minor wagon]

How many research slots do you have?

[odd herald]

3 at the start

[minor wagon]

Gooood

[odd herald]

but to get more

[minor wagon]

Okay so

[odd herald]

its very hard

[minor wagon]

Dont research eletronics at the start

Go for building, tools and then at

[odd herald]

you do understand you have 0 resources

basicly

[fading ibex]

Guns cost metal only

[minor wagon]

Can you screenshot with the resource view?

[odd herald]

• every month you lose 90 political power

[odd herald]

sure leme join the game again

[minor wagon]

How

[fading ibex]

@odd herald Just spam infantry bro

[odd herald]

kings banquet makes you lose 90 political power

or you get big debuffs

[minor wagon]

Behead em

[odd herald]

its at the bottom of the focus tree

[fading ibex]

does AI trade oil?

[minor wagon]

Can I get a screenshot of your production lines and starting divisions?

[odd herald]

it does

ig

[odd herald]

ye ye

leme get my game up

i ragequit

[minor wagon]

Ok!

[odd herald]

after 3 hours of playing

[fading ibex]

yeah so you get boosted by ai cux you have oil

[neat widget]

Romania has like 4 steel

[neat widget]

Pretty much

[minor wagon]

Ooooooof

[fading ibex]

Bucharest

[odd herald]

4 stell 0 stuff to make air

only oil

is green

everything else red

2 coal

[minor wagon]

Alright... Hmm... I can try to play some Romania after I nuke USA as Yapan

Then after a few days I can tell ya a good strategy

[fading ibex]

How many civs does romania start with

[odd herald]

gang

this is my third atempt

[minor wagon]

Only?

[odd herald]

you spawn with a deficit of 20k infantry

[hollow linden]

Like 10

[hollow linden]

Just dont play Romania 😂

Shit nation

[odd herald]

you start with 10 civs 5 mils

[hollow linden]

With a shit tree

[odd herald]

i got it as a challange

that i didnt beat

[minor wagon]

What a luxure

Try Finland

[odd herald]

i did

win as finland

against ussr

[minor wagon]

Finland is actually fun

[odd herald]

e

not really

its still hard

[fading ibex]

Sweden best nordic

[odd herald]

you get a billion bufs

[minor wagon]

HAKKA PEELE POYA MOYA

[fading ibex]

Does your focus tree not give u any mils

[odd herald]

basicly no

[fading ibex]

Notice how infantry is almost the same as ts

[odd herald]

soviet tanks just stack wipe you

in any situaition

[fading ibex]

Ai doesnt know how to make tanks bro 🙏

[odd herald]

bro

i had like 30 medium tank divisions

just constantly attacking me

plus like 2k planes

me who cant make air

or anti air

im telling yall tis a real challange

[fading ibex]

aa is cheaper than the Cas u were doinf

why even make cas

[hollow linden]

Missing AA

[odd herald]

AA is inexistant

[hollow linden]

That unironically wouldve saved you

[odd herald]

if you didnt read

[hollow linden]

CAS does insane damage

[odd herald]

i have 4 steel

[fading ibex]

????

[hollow linden]

Just trade????

[odd herald]

bro..

[hollow linden]

Why did u join the allies anyway

The axis is the only logical choice

[odd herald]

cuz soviets declared

i had no other option

[honest seal]

What are all possible leaders for Sinkiang?

[odd herald]

as democratic

[hollow linden]

Why would u ever go democtratic as Romania 😭

Just go fascist

[odd herald]

e

[hollow linden]

and make your life easier

[odd herald]

i tried

[hollow linden]

wdym

[odd herald]

with whole borders

[hollow linden]

It is a focus

u can just refuse hungary u know that right

[odd herald]

yes

[hollow linden]

or better yet, do the focus where u kill hungary

Balkan dominance

[odd herald]

i was at both at war with germany

and soviets

[hollow linden]

Why 😭

[odd herald]

and somehow greece didnt die before me

[hollow linden]

Why were u at war with ger

[odd herald]

germans declared first

couldnt reach me cuz hungary in the way

[hollow linden]

For what

[fading ibex]

No wonder u lost then bro 😭

[odd herald]

for north transylvania

which is most of my industry

[hollow linden]

😭

Just join axis asap

[odd herald]

play it yourself

and see

[hollow linden]

Bro I got 6k hours and did all romania achievements

[odd herald]

then play it again

[hollow linden]

Going democratic is like the worst thing u can do

I will not

It was painful

I hate romania

[odd herald]

your words

[hollow linden]

what

[analog maple]

guys what a good paratroopers design? (for invading britin specifecly)

[odd herald]

I tried anywway ✌️

[odd herald]

for for stacks

[hollow linden]

yew well then dont gotta be surprised when u die

[analog maple]

what

[hollow linden]

16w I guess

if u just wanna get a port

not to vp snipe

[analog maple]

what that

[odd herald]

go like 7-8 p and no support other then entrenchment

[analog maple]

okie thx

[odd herald]

land at dover

[hollow linden]

Where u spam 2w paras and drop on every single victory point to cap UK instantly

[odd herald]

and just wait for your army to cross

[hollow linden]

thats dumb

Add more support

[odd herald]

it worked for me

[hollow linden]

could be better though

[analog maple]

it possible to do this with uk? i thou only with france

[hollow linden]

ye not realistics with UK

[odd herald]

uk has garrisions everywhere

so idk

[hollow linden]

It has too many garrisons

well not with 2w

[hollow linden]

but with larger divs

[hollow linden]

Nah wait this is doable with like 10w, green air and force attack

[odd herald]

mhm

yall should try greece

i survived agaginst axis till 1944

[analog maple]

btw how much trasport planes would i need for one of those? still 50?

[odd herald]

being naval invaded from all sides

[hollow linden]

bros talking like we never played 😭

[hollow linden]

still 50

[odd herald]

with no focus tree

[analog maple]

ok tysm both

[hollow linden]

per div, size doesnt matter

[hollow linden]

Default tree is lowkey cracked though

[odd herald]

not for greece

the focus tree gives you a lot of navy buffs and infantry defence

• free aid

[hollow linden]

What?

Are we talking about the same default tree?

[odd herald]

no

[hollow linden]

jfc

[odd herald]

the greece focus tree

[hollow linden]

🤦‍♂️

[odd herald]

.

[light knoll]

does anyone know if the chances for south america countries to join your alliance/merge with you as the Philippines pure rng? or is it affected by their opinion of you or anything

[glacial steeple]

@hollow linden they buffed CAS btw

[hollow linden]

u dont say

ye its crazy now

[glacial steeple]

the AI acttually murdered me once with it cuz i was sending vols to finland vs ussr

and was like i mean cas is always bad but surely it isnt that bad

and then its like 10-20 cas per tick

still won tho by just winning faster

but my vets :(

they did not stay vets

[neat widget]

bro worst timing

also how tf

[glacial steeple]

mountainside resort

oh in bucharest

idk he walked in the occupied territories and bought a home

[bleak plinth]

can someone give me an insane paratrooper tmeplate for late game? i cant seem to penetrate the defensive lines using mine

[neat widget]

#hoi4-general message

[bleak plinth]

tyy

[toxic pollen]

how do I unlock these slots? All it says is that I need to "fill specific conditions"

[stuck garnet]

Look at doctrines

[opaque hemlock]

i have been waiting.....a lot....why i cant naval invade?

i have all my ships in patrol

[stuck garnet]

Put caps on naval invasion support when you can naval invade

[sacred patrol]

ngl

i dont understand shit

[stuck garnet]

No calv/mot/mech?

Your hp

Your org

What

Youre gonna die😭

[sacred patrol]

wdym, theres motor

[stuck garnet]

Is this for offense

[sacred patrol]

mostly yea

the first line is motor

[stuck garnet]

Those are suppot battalions

[sacred patrol]

oh shit

wrong ones mv

[rustic acorn]

Hello, whats wrong with the marine missions? why cant I send my subs for convoy raiding? because of sea dominance?

[stuck garnet]

You put arty/aa/at on the last one

I think armored cars are armored and not inf

Plus you should have 36 width

[sacred patrol]

i legit cant find it in here even if i checked all

like can i use armored car as an example?

[rustic acorn]

armored cars are under the trucksd

[stuck garnet]

Oh

[rustic acorn]

under mobile inf

[sacred patrol]

but rn i use armored cars tho

[opaque hemlock]

why is the damn bar not moving??

[stuck garnet]

Everyone reccomends 10 mot 8 armored

[stuck garnet]

Typically 10 mech 8 meds usually

[toxic pollen]

i have looked

i cannot find it

[sacred patrol]

kinda new to this so yk

[rustic acorn]

do you guys know why I can not send my subs for raiding atm?

[stuck garnet]

You have the new ones yeah?

[sacred patrol]

i mostly though the artilerry behind, health will be my armored cars and the tanks for the damage

[stuck garnet]

If you have a grand doctrine

Look at your sub doctrines

Specifically above it

Ss

[sacred patrol]

am talking to myself am i

[stuck garnet]

Ok

Why armored cars?

[toxic pollen]

it says brigade size +1 on the infantry subdoctrine thing, i guess that might be it

[stuck garnet]

Yeah

[rustic acorn]

dont mix up amrored cars and mot. inf or mech

cars dont add org so much as mot.inf or mech inf

[pliant condor]

set the home base on automatic

[stuck garnet]

Do calv instead of motorized inf for less cosy

[sacred patrol]

for tanking

[unreal pulsar]

How can I incorporate sp artillery in divisions

[stuck garnet]

I heard 7/2s are decent

[pliant condor]

by putting it in

[unreal pulsar]

7 tanks 2 sp?

[stuck garnet]

Ohh

[unreal pulsar]

sorry I didn't make it clear

[stuck garnet]

I thought you meant regular inf

[tribal skiff]

So I am playing Germany to try these new features out, and I invaded Yugoslavia in spring 39, just to do something different. After I took some first regions from them, an Independent State of Croatia sprung up, blocking my way to south. That was unexpected, does that always happen?

The issue is that since I need to go through their areas, I invited them to my faction, and that means all the regions I take will then go to them. What a nuisance. That meant I had to take Romania (who guaranteed Yugoslavia) through the back door between Poland and Hungary, so it took more time than expected. And not only that, they had the audacity to call in Hungary to the war... some lessons about factions learned to be sure. Don't allow minors to call countries to war, for example.

But long story short, can I prevent Croatia from forming somehow?

[scenic nacelle]

No

They always form

[tribal skiff]

Well, that's bummer, since I can't declare war on them? Immediately, that is

[pliant condor]

it always happen when they are ai

[pliant condor]

you can

justify

10 day

[tribal skiff]

Ah, ok

[pliant condor]

ok if you are not at war with allies it would take longer

[tribal skiff]

So it would be best to wait until France and Britain form the allies?

[pliant condor]

well fate of yugo has a 2/3 chance of them accepting

so you can savescum on that

[tribal skiff]

I just justified on Yugoslavia though, I didnt use any focuses. Plus I always play Ironman on

[sacred patrol]

what like set up should i use for something like a part of china

[pliant condor]

ah why

[sacred patrol]

some name no one would remember

is like infantry + trucks + artilerry a bad idea?

[tribal skiff]

Why not?😁

[pliant condor]

surely there are better targets

[sacred patrol]

thats like me accidentally joining the war against USSR as switz

[tribal skiff]

But I am Germany, going to war is GOOD 🤠

[sacred patrol]

and am playing guangxi clique

[tribal skiff]

Maybe so, but I am tired of always doing the same things. Got to keep it fresh

[viscid abyss]

How do I do a naval invasion. When I last did sealion I couldn’t send my troops to Britain unless I had already captured a port with my paratroopers

I had naval dominance or whatever it was called

[rustic acorn]

well, yes. thats all, naval dominance

left click on your marines, select starting harbour by leftclick and select target with left again, then finalize by enter

but dominance is needed

[narrow grail]

Can Mapuche Chile core all of Argentina and not just Patagonia/south?

[viscid abyss]

Can only marines make the crossing?

So no regular troops

[rustic acorn]

nope, all can

even tanks

[viscid abyss]

Oh

Because when I tried it didn’t work

[rustic acorn]

but.. marines are best for that

[viscid abyss]

I had naval dominance and air superiority (if that matters)

[rustic acorn]

hmmm, enough dominance? or just a little

[viscid abyss]

It was past the minimum needed

And only once my paratroopers captured the ports were my troops able to cross

The game kept saying that the enemy port wasn’t a viable place to move to

[scenic nacelle]

Bro wtf is this

I don’t speak that language but it’s confusing to look at picture wise

[glacial steeple]

no nsfw / modern politics (TFR) please

[normal lagoon]

how do you get your core on denmark as germany, do you have to wait for an event?

[tribal skiff]

Which infantry doctrine would you go for with Mobile Warfare? Mobile infantry seems obvious but requires emphasis on developing mech vehicles (of course it gives a bonus too). Then assault infantry would give lots on bonuses to support arty, but it's hard to say how good it is in the end?

[pliant condor]

you don't go with mobile warfare

[glacial steeple]

orgwall up

[pliant condor]

but yes mobile infantry if all you have are tanks

[neat widget]

horrifying

[tribal skiff]

Sorry, what do you mean by 'all you have are tanks'?

[neat widget]

Like literally all of your divisions are tank divisions

[tribal skiff]

Right, obviously that's not viable, especially early war.

[neat widget]

Yeah sure but how many doctrines do you have early war

[tribal skiff]

None, probably....

But it's fairly easy to do all the land doctrines before, say Poland?

[glacial steeple]

why not

just make more tank

[tribal skiff]

Lols yeah

[glacial steeple]

you have the IC

especially as germany

[tribal skiff]

I want to keep a certain balance, historical if you will

[glacial steeple]

or ussr

[glacial steeple]

tank spam japan before dlc, 1943 iirc

not even tank only

[mystic otter]

those 3 random matilda lmao

[tribal skiff]

So how about that Assault Infantry then?

[glacial steeple]

i only made basics they rlly wanted to use the improved chassis

[neat widget]

Japan now gets like a 15, 20% discount on tanks 😭

[glacial steeple]

yeah i should do that again

fun

i could probably get like 500K tanks by 1943 with the bloat

and by yk not doing infantry

bad tanks but lot of tank

maybe not 500K idk

[pliant condor]

better

[glacial steeple]

you can at least double it at minimum

[pliant condor]

mobile infantry is only because if you don't give a fk abt infantry and only have tank it might help your tank more

its basically old mobile warfare

[glacial steeple]

dont bypass the filter please

[pliant seal]

hi! Im new to hoi4 and dont know how to find a specific plane im producing on my map. Im making paratroopers and i want to find the transport planes

[junior marlin]

You research the transport planes

Then go to produce

And produce how much you can

[junior marlin]

Throurg the research button

[opaque garden]

why are we calling ourselves stone headed fools?

[hexed parcel]

Idk maybe its true

[opaque garden]

paradox please fix this

[narrow grail]

Where can I check max amount of naval invasions allowed?

[devout ocean]

Anyone got advice on how to play Japan?

[glacial steeple]

omg hi yes

whats the issue

[devout ocean]

Never played them lol...

I cook as most countries.

[glacial steeple]

where are you struggling

[neat widget]

are you on prioritize economic growth or 4 year plan

[devout ocean]

Like, whent to attack china, good designs, and so on, I don't play Japan.

[neat widget]

either way, build up a good economy, build up good mil count, and start research on flame tanks + assault engineers + railway guns

[misty wagon]

uh, im not sure sorry

this is my first ever game idk rlly what to do

[neat widget]

4 year plan gives good results quickly but if you don't conquer countries you will start running out of economy, and you will have to conquer them quickly

prioritize economic growth provides good civ boosts for a long term sustainable build

they are approximately equal by around 1941-1942

either way first one you start building mils immediately, second one you start building civs until like 1937-1938 i believe

[misty wagon]

so right now i should build a military ?

and attack small countries

[glacial steeple]

well you dont have much to change for china

resources limited, xp limited

[neat widget]

well attack when you're ready, you're surrounded by forts with France and Czechoslovakia

Belgium is just too tough

[glacial steeple]

after that you still have just infantry-air gameplay

[misty wagon]

how about netherlands

[neat widget]

Poland triggers guarantees

Netherlands is an easy first pick, but you have to do that before anschluss

and you do anschluss in mid-1936, so you have to invade the netherlands very early (and you can do that)

[misty wagon]

what is anchluss?

[neat widget]

annexing austria

[misty wagon]

oh

i am year 1936 rn

april

[neat widget]

I see

[misty wagon]

could u show me how i can build a good military? im kind of confused

[neat widget]

Depends on the build you want to do

For instance there are infantry builds, special forces builds, tank builds, etc etc

[glacial steeple]

just focus on something

[misty wagon]

whats the best one

wait special forces sounds cool

[glacial steeple]

air is absolutely disgusting rn

[misty wagon]

wait dont tell me this game has a meta

[glacial steeple]

?

its a maths game people do a lot of math for it

[neat widget]

yeah

[misty wagon]

hm

is special forces good?

it sounds cool

[neat widget]

as long as you have good air then yeah

[misty wagon]

ok then i dont have good air

i wanna focus on infantry and tanks

how do i do that

[neat widget]

well first thing's first you need military factories

[nova gorge]

this is a dumb but werid question but is a 35 with better than a 20with division i wanna know since i try meta against my friend who does 20width and i tend to loose i used tanks he used infantry

[misty wagon]

wait i have a lot of civs getting built rn

do i cancel them

[rain bluff]

what would be the best doctrine for a space marine build?

[rain bluff]

imo if you have 15+ civs building at once its probably enough

maybe 25 as germany

[misty wagon]

i got 36 and building

@neat widget what are some stuff i should focus on my tree

[upper dew]

are helicopters ever really worth it? feels like theres better support companies for most cases

[pliant condor]

ok rule number zero in this game

when you finish building infra and civs

you only build mils

never queue up civ or infra after mil

also, always queue up stuff in the highest infra structure states first to full since you build faster there

[rain bluff]

a few of these and hte mobile warfare doctrines and tank expansion ones + get himmler

[pliant condor]

no(ok there are funny use cases with the helicopter doctrine where they are slightly better than the normal

[pliant condor]

click war economy, do todt focus and get other reichsleiter every 175 days

pick hess after todt, then goebbel

pls don't clikc himmler

also keep deploying divisions as you could and click anschluss

[misty wagon]

do i touch these

[pliant condor]

no

ok so if you want the most correct way to play

make a new template with 1 infantry in it

deploy like 120 of that division so you can send the max amount of volunteers to spain

also how many factory on guns do you have

[misty wagon]

shoul;d i add anti air to my div

[misty wagon]

6

[neat widget]

scroll left

[misty wagon]

is this too far

shou;ld i be conserend abt this

[lost niche]

Hello, i just got the game and im lost, im doing the tutorial campaign with italy in ethiopia but my army suffer from attrition and cant advance anymore. I watched a tutorial but cant find out how to resolve my problem . My army is too far from the supply node

[sinful vessel]

have you motorized your supply ?

[lost niche]

i dont think

ill see

[sinful vessel]

That should help.

[misty wagon]

@pliant condor

how do i send volunteers

[lost niche]

Thanks !

is it in the army tab ?

[sinful vessel]

right click on spain, then send voluntyeers

[misty wagon]

the republic of spain or nationalist

nationalist im guessing

[sinful vessel]

If you do it on the army tab, this army will always use plenty of truck. If you do it on the node, this will be only for troops around the node.

[misty wagon]

which spain tho

[sinful vessel]

As you want. I've been told than republican could give more army xp

[lost niche]

and what is the difference between the donkey, the one truck and the two trucks ? range ?

[sinful vessel]

But as always go to the historical option.

[misty wagon]

doesent it make sense for me to send it to the nationalist , since germany is a fascist

[misty wagon]

which is?

[sinful vessel]

fascist for fascist, other for republican

[misty wagon]

alr ill send volunteers to nationalist spain

[sinful vessel]

Donkey, short distance, noi truck used, three trucks, high distance, lot of truch used. Just one truck is middle of both

[misty wagon]

can i divide 2 divisions from my main army

[lost niche]

ok thanks

[misty wagon]

cuz for some reasson im only allowed to send 2

[sinful vessel]

you need to have an army with the exact number

[misty wagon]

do they need a leader

[sinful vessel]

no. but you should have a general and a marshall. They will xp and you'll have more stats

[misty wagon]

like this?

[sinful vessel]

yes. and click send air volunteer on top right also

then you could send planes

[misty wagon]

alrighty sent

[sinful vessel]

planes can be sent immediately

and when you'll have more divisions, check if you can send one more volunteer

[misty wagon]

how do i send just fly them over

[sinful vessel]

select a plane unit, then right click on a spanish base

[misty wagon]

alr

do i givre them now commands

[lost niche]

Changing to trucks didnt solve the issue

[sinful vessel]

In my (little) experience, it is better to send 2 fighter unit first, to kill all the russian planes that will arrive. Then, when their total is low, u can change one fighter unit for one ground attack unit

[lost niche]

i saw that i was missing a LOT of equipement in the produce tab so it must be this

[sinful vessel]

could you give me a screenshot of the situation ?

[lost niche]

sure

[viscid abyss]

Why do my ships just sit in port even when they are supposed to be on a mission

[sinful vessel]

some are repairing maybe ?

[misty wagon]

like this?

[sinful vessel]

Perfect. Give them a high priority to be sure they recieve first new plane. Select them, then right click new theatre at the right. Then click the wheel and choose the priority

[misty wagon]

like this

[pliant condor]

next time best to send tactical bombers

instead of fighter

and put them on CAS mission

[sinful vessel]

That was my (maybe bad) advice. Ad when i send CAS, they struggle against the 200 russian fighters

[pliant condor]

you won't be killing russian planes because neither side has detection

russian plane won't be killing your either

cas always hit and give you the most air xp

[sinful vessel]

ok. I'va always (but i'm only 5 games old ^^) sent fighter, kill them quite all, before sending CAS, which should be a mistake. Though will a 50/100 CAS give more than an 100/100 fighter unit ?